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Well done, Mania. Thanks for all collecting all of this info. I’m still speechless so I’ll just stick to the pleasantries.

The whole thing is just flat out weird…
Id never think that Randy would leave due to money. Granted Im sure the UFC is putting insane ammounts of $$ into their head ups pockets, but Randy didnt seem like he cared about that. On the other hand… he is right, what more is there?

Fedor didnt want to fight the best in the world, so he does not belong as #1 in any rankings. In order to be the best, you have to continually beat the best.

Randy will stay retired for a couple of years, stay in shape and come out of retirement and shock the world again. Wishful thinking on my part. He’s enjoying life, I don’t blame him.

I like that last sentence “I actually think that Randy Couture would have smashed Fedor.” Thats cool right there. I do like the approach Dana is taking towards this. He could tell randy that he is fighting Vera and will fight for the next nine months. But he respects his decision and is letting him walk away.

[quote comment="175028"]Fedor didnt want to fight the best in the world, so he does not belong as #1 in any rankings. In order to be the best, you have to continually beat the best.[/quote]

wrong. quit saying that crap dude.

Fedor wants to fight in his home country in Sambo competitions. UFC prohibits it when youre signed. Blame the UFC not Fedor or Couture.

Fedor is a chump. Randy is the greatest!

Fedor will now have an asterik next to his name.
He needs to fight the top talent in order to be regarded as the number one.
As for fighting in his own country, he must feel really strong about it. How many times did Ali fight for the title in countries way outside of the US?

[quote comment="175043"][quote comment="175028"]Fedor didnt want to fight the best in the world, so he does not belong as #1 in any rankings. In order to be the best, you have to continually beat the best.[/quote]

wrong. quit saying that crap dude.

Fedor wants to fight in his home country in Sambo competitions. UFC prohibits it when youre signed. Blame the UFC not Fedor or Couture.[/quote]

No “DUDE”

Blame the idiot Russian. it is HIS choice to fight in those stupid minor compititions. I understand patriotism and all that jazz but every fighter somewhere WANTS to be the best in the world and the dum$hit is …yes.. afraid of RC. Why else would he pass the oportunity up to be the #1, undisputed, badd ass HW of all time? Think about it. Clearly it had nothing to do with money from what I hear they offered him but w.e.

It sure does seem like Fedor’s camp is doing everything it can to avoid a matchup with serious competition.

Then again, maybe they truly don’t consider Coutoure serious competition?

Wierd anyway you look at it…

I’ve been saying this all along. Its all the damn internets fault. C’mon, its obvious Randy came on UFCMania, saw the salaries and cried for an hour and a half. Dana is obviously sent to earth by Jesus Christ himself so there is no possible way that he could possibly have done anything wrong.

Please.

Couture is the second highest paid figher in the UFC at 250,000 a fight?! Then that would be pretty damn sad. Dana F,ed up and is trying to spin this whole thing his way. Randy is not his friend. If you read Randy’s comments, its fairly obvious that Randy doesnt even like Dana.

Also, who is Dana White to call out fighters. I’m sick of him blasting fighters just because they dont go with his master plan. Remember when Wand wanted to postphone his fight because he is moving to the US and needed proper time to train? Dana said that Wand was trying to duck Chuck and that he backed out of the offer which later we found out were all lies. Then when Wand finally signed, Dana was all high fiving him and saying nothing but good things about Wand.

Dana is unscrupulous and would say anything to make himself look good.

And the door creaks open for AA?

[quote post="3572"]Id never think that Randy would leave due to money. [/quote]

To Randy it was about RESPECT, not money. And he felt that the UFC was not showing him much, if any at all. Dana lied to his face saying that he is the 2nd highest paid fighter next to Chuck. He blatantly lied to his face. His “uphill battles with UFC management” also means that they were not respecting him like they should have. He’s Randy The Natural Couture. Give the man what he wants. Randy along with several other fighters built the UFC and made it what it is today. Randy and Chuck being the top 2. Randy, who brings in just as much money to the UFC as anyone, makes $250k for his title defenses. Meanwhile, Fedor who has never fought in the UFC so therefore he has never made a penny for the UFC, was offered over $2 million, guaranteed. And rightfully so , Randy said that he wouldnt fight unless he got paid the same, or MORE since he is the champ. This is not a money issue. Randy has money. It is a RESPECT issue!

I want to know the details about Randy’s contract. Most people think that after 9 months, the contract is over with. Hoever, Dana seems to think that he has Randy by the balls and that Randy can’t fight in a sanctioned fight until he fulfills his 2 fights left on his contract with the UFC.

Honestly, if Dana was ’such good friends’ with Randy, and all Randy wanted to do was go fight 1 last fight with Fedor in M-1 and get paid millions, Dana should let him.

All Im saying is Fedor clearly wants to be able to participate in his home country along with whatever organization signs him. Whats so wrong with that? I dont think Fedor is #1. Clearly Couture is. Im just saying I dont blame Fedor for wanting to sign with a company that gives a little breathing room so he can compete elsewhere.

F it. Get Couture to sign up in the Russian Sambo Competition. lol. We will make Fedor fight Randy. haha

Chuck loses gets 500,000 whatever

Cro Cop loses ( BAD ) gets 350,000 whatever

Fedor gets offered 2,000,000 per fight…hummmm

Randy 6X time Wins gets 250,000 % of whatever.

[quote comment="175074"][quote post="3572"]Id never think that Randy would leave due to money. [/quote]

To Randy it was about RESPECT, not money. And he felt that the UFC was not showing him much, if any at all. Dana lied to his face saying that he is the 2nd highest paid fighter next to Chuck. He blatantly lied to his face. His “uphill battles with UFC management” also means that they were not respecting him like they should have. He’s Randy The Natural Couture. Give the man what he wants. Randy along with several other fighters built the UFC and made it what it is today. Randy and Chuck being the top 2. Randy, who brings in just as much money to the UFC as anyone, makes $250k for his title defenses. Meanwhile, Fedor who has never fought in the UFC so therefore he has never made a penny for the UFC, was offered over $2 million, guaranteed. And rightfully so , Randy said that he wouldnt fight unless he got paid the same, or MORE since he is the champ. This is not a money issue. Randy has money. It is a RESPECT issue!

I want to know the details about Randy’s contract. Most people think that after 9 months, the contract is over with. Hoever, Dana seems to think that he has Randy by the balls and that Randy can’t fight in a sanctioned fight until he fulfills his 2 fights left on his contract with the UFC.

Honestly, if Dana was ’such good friends’ with Randy, and all Randy wanted to do was go fight 1 last fight with Fedor in M-1 and get paid millions, Dana should let him.[/quote]

Great post Violent Mike! Can you or anyone else explain to me what the hell was the point in spending all that money to purchase PRIDE, when many Pride fighters are not joining the UFC. How is Fedor allowed to sign with another company? I thought that the reason for the Pride purchase was to set up dream matches. Now we got guys like Gomi, Fedor, Soukoudjou all signing with other companies. Weren’t the Pride fighters assets of the Pride Company. When you purchase a company you get all it’s assets. Can any one please explain to me how fighters like Fedor and Gomi can just go sign with other companies.

I also do not believe that its about the money with Randy. Mike u r completely correct when you said its all about Respect.

I was the biggest Fedor fan ever, and now this Russian asswhole signed with another company and is one of the reason’s Randy is retiring! This has to be the worst mma day ever!!!!!!!!! I hope Randy reconsiders. At least fight Noguerra. Dana step up and pay the man the kind of money other top fighters are getting, or allow him to go to M-1 to fight Fedor for one fight, since u two r such good freinds!!

This news has made me sick to my stomach! Im out!!!!

I think one of the most shocking aspects of this story was how sudden it was and the manner in which Randy sent his resignation. I’ve noticed a lot of people saying “that’s not like Randy.” That was my thought as well. Reading the interview with Dana White on the UFC website, it does seem like something else is going on, namely Randy is being influenced by this agent of his. Randy negotiated his contract and was happy about it, and as everyone knows he wants to compete. For him to up and quit like that doesn’t make sense, regardless of Fedor or money. It does seem to me that his agent was probably in his ear about not making enough, and about how great he is and only would have to beat Fedor to be considered the best of all time. Randy Couture doesn’t seem like the kind of guy who would quit over who he fights or money. Most fighters say they’ll fight whoever’s in front of them and that it’s not about the money. With Randy, even though he wanted Fedor, he still likes to compete. I don’t know, but I do think aside from Fedor there was plenty Randy could have still done in the heavyweight division. And money? Did you guys see his house on Spike? He owns gyms and clothing lines and does all sorts of business and now has an acting career. I just have a hard time believing Randy is that concerned over money. While I agree that it has been a little stupid how these Pride fighters have walked into the UFC and in their first fights are making a lot of money. I also agree that Fedor is ridiculously overrated and it was insulting to other fighters how much they were offering him. I definitely agree with all of that. I just have a hard time believing Randy Couture would give a crap about all that stuff. He’s the greatest fighter in the world, and he belongs in the octagon, regardless of who’s in front of him or how much his check is worth.

That’s my two cents anyway.

So Dana puts Foot in Mouth again and now insults the Russian.

Who has Fedor Beaten?
Antonio Nogueira
Cro Cop
Mark Hunt
Mark Coleman
Came back after a DEVESTATING SLAM from Randleman
Babalu
Heath Herring

That seems like a pretty decent resume to me?

This would have all been avoided even with the Fedor signing if the UFC offered Randy $500,000 per fight (Which would be only $1,000,000 since he had only 2 fight left) and gate!

The greedy White does it again!

Sure there is a reasoning that Randy negotiated this contract so he has to live with it. But on the flip side since he has come back how much has the UFC made off of him. How much have they thrown at other prospective talent??? They’re have been reports that the UFC was throwing around anywhere from $100,000 – $1,000,000 per fight to land new talent. Randy is making $250,000 per fight. Anyone would feel a little disrespected if they were the main draw but none of the money was coming your way! To not invest in house and keep your money maker(s) around is stupid.

Dana White doesnt want to re-negotiate contracts. He is an ego maniac that doesnt look at the big picutre. This COULD have been avoided if Dana just paid the man what he is worth. But instead issues statements that they will survive and they will be okay.

True the UFC will survive but I think this will have a negative effect and slow their growth.

Please Dana drop the ego and do whats best for the business!

Randy will continue to be a positive influence in the sport of MMA regardless of where he stands. It’s impossible to say if or will he come back. But does it really matter? he has left such a good mark and brought the sport up in popularity so well, it doesn’t matter if he retires.
Randy, no matter what he says, wouldn’t turn his back on the real people who love the sport. I think it is a slap inthe face what the other fighters are getting compared to who helped this sport grow as fast as it’s growing. I mean, who can speak as well as The Natural. Randy’s ability to dis-mantle any fighter’s aggression wilol help in every other fighter’s decision to fight a fight with smartness that Randy shows.
It will be OK. It’s just all about bussiness at this point now. It seems to be about money now, and unfortunately we as MMA fans will have to grow with this.

I bought M1, Couture will fight Fedor and the loser will be sent to the board room will somebody will be FIRED!

— D. Trump —

[quote comment="175091"]So Dana puts Foot in Mouth again and now insults the Russian.

Who has Fedor Beaten?
Antonio Nogueira
Cro Cop
Mark Hunt
Mark Coleman
Came back after a DEVESTATING SLAM from Randleman
Babalu
Heath Herring

That seems like a pretty decent resume to me?[/quote]
..Yupp, i agree.
But Randy has a good one too!

Belfort
Liddell
Ortiz
Rizzo
Randleman
Sylvia
Gonzaga

There is not anything left for the NATURAL to prove.
I agree with his desicion to retire now at the top of his game.

LONG LIVE THE KING.

Randy’s attitude is not, “I’m not getting enough money.” Randy’s attitude is, “UFC management is taking advantage of me and I don’t need it. I’m going to do just fine without it.”

Also, whats with all this Fedor bashing? I feel that him not signing with UFC is completely justified. He got offered more money and the opportunity to compete in Sambo competitions because he is an embassador of Sambo in Russia. Why wouldn’t he take that? Nobody would give up their rights AND more money, I don’t care what they say.

Would’nt mind seeing CAPTAIN AMERICA fight my main man RAMPAGE to unify the heavyweight and lightheavyweight tittles.

[quote comment="175108"][quote comment="175091"]So Dana puts Foot in Mouth again and now insults the Russian.

Who has Fedor Beaten?
Antonio Nogueira
Cro Cop
Mark Hunt
Mark Coleman
Came back after a DEVESTATING SLAM from Randleman
Babalu
Heath Herring

That seems like a pretty decent resume to me?[/quote]
..Yupp, i agree.
But Randy has a good one too!

Belfort
Liddell
Ortiz
Rizzo
Randleman
Sylvia
Gonzaga[/quote]

..Take a good look at who Fedor has beatin..and look at some of them now..
For starters:

Marc Coleman is Pride’s Ken Shamrock

Crop cop.. new name should be Crapcop

Babalu..beats up the David Heaths of the world

Heath Herring..Lost to Some Joe..I for get his name

Big Nog… His legit

Mark Hunt.. No Ground..

Who has he beatin???

Now he’ll be fighting in some backyard in Siberia.

[quote comment="175108"][quote comment="175091"]So Dana puts Foot in Mouth again and now insults the Russian.

Who has Fedor Beaten?
Antonio Nogueira
Cro Cop
Mark Hunt
Mark Coleman
Came back after a DEVESTATING SLAM from Randleman
Babalu
Heath Herring

That seems like a pretty decent resume to me?[/quote]
..Yupp, i agree.
But Randy has a good one too!

Belfort
Liddell
Ortiz
Rizzo
Randleman
Sylvia
Gonzaga[/quote]
Maurice Smith
and Van Arsdale… to add to Coutures list. At 44 years old I’m sure the only matchup to motivate Randy enough would be Fedor… He said if he fought anyone else it would only be for money… so he stepped aside. The whole fiasco begins and ends with Fedors choice.

This won’t kill the UFC. It may dampen their prospects a little, but not for long. Right now, with Randy leaving, there is a huge void to be filled. Someone else needs to step up and become the face of the UFC. My guess is that it will be Rampage, who is already starting to make his rounds on different media outlets. However, I think someone else also needs to step up and fill in the “these guys have class” spot that Couture served. I’m thinking that GSP could do that. He just needs to get his title back.

Fedor is not the Russian Cyborg no more..He is the Russian HomoThug.

[quote post="3572"]Honestly, if Dana was ’such good friends’ with Randy, and all Randy wanted to do was go fight 1 last fight with Fedor in M-1 and get paid millions, Dana should let him. [/quote]
No way Dana lets that happen without getting his piece of the pie. What he should do is have Randy surrender the belt, sign Fedor to a one-fight deal, give both fighters a crapload of cash plus PPV percentages and give everyone the fight they want. No titles on the line, just a fight between two of the best fighters in MMA history. The fighters get paid, UFC rakes it in hand over fist, and the fans don’t get cheated out of one of the best fights we could ask for.

[quote comment="175027"]The whole thing is just flat out weird…
Id never think that Randy would leave due to money. Granted Im sure the UFC is putting insane ammounts of $$ into their head ups pockets, but Randy didnt seem like he cared about that. On the other hand… he is right, what more is there?[/quote]

It seems to me it wasn’t the money, but a sense of pride. When he confronted them about paying Fedor 10 times as much as the top fighters, they lied to him. That’s a slap in the face, especially to someone who has done as much for the organization as Couture.

There are a lot of fans disappointed with the UFC right now, in which I’m one of. What frustrates me is that the UFC brass seems to think that their promotion is bigger then the sport. I love MMA, and as a fan, I invest into individual fighters. The UFC seems to think that the fans are interested in MMA because of their promotion. Don’t get me wrong, the UFC is the best MMA promoter because they have the best fighters. But when you lose two of the most popular fighters in the world because of dollars and cents, it’s going to turn some people off. Losing Randy was inevitable, the guy can’t fight forever. The way Randy left is what concerns me. Randy was loved by almost all MMA fans, and it appears as if the UFC didn’t love him as much as the fans. With all that said, the UFC seems to be a little out of touch with it’s fan base.

Dana is about at 2-faced as you can get. Unfortunately for him, they are both bald and ugly!

Everyone is coming down hard on Fedor. They think he is crazy cause he turned down insane amounts of money. Not everyone is motivated by money!

As far as Randy goes, he will be missed but the UFC will be fine, there’s always some new juggernaut emerging and the UFC will promote and make money, that’s why they can take such a hard stance with fighters, there’s no fighter they couldn’t live without.

If I was in Dana’s position, and being a real fan of MMA, I would go ahead and release Randy from contract to fight Fedor. If Randy is not going to fight for the UFC anymore, why not give randy a temporary release so the fight can happen. Of course if I owned 10% of the UFC I would probably prefer them to fight for my organization, but think of what that would do for Dana’s image.

[quote post="3572"]Great post Violent Mike!
…
I also do not believe that its about the money with Randy. Mike u r completely correct when you said its all about Respect.[/quote]

Thanks a lot John.

[quote post="3572"]Randy’s attitude is not, “I’m not getting enough money.” Randy’s attitude is, “UFC management is taking advantage of me and I don’t need it. I’m going to do just fine without it.”[/quote]

EXACTLY BostonMMAJunkie. Plus the UFC doesn’t show Randy the respect he derserves. Dana and everyone associated to UFC management should have been kissing Randy’s ass on a daily basis.

[quote post="3572"]Would’nt mind seeing CAPTAIN AMERICA fight my main man RAMPAGE to unify the heavyweight and lightheavyweight tittles. [/quote]

However, it wouldn’t be a unification bout. It it was to unify the belts, that would mean that they would have to do away with one of the two weight classes. The outcome of the fight would be the first ever simultaneous HW and LHW champ in UFC history. Unifying the belts can only happen if the belts are from the same weight class.

[quote comment="175091"]So Dana puts Foot in Mouth again and now insults the Russian.

Who has Fedor Beaten?
Antonio Nogueira
Cro Cop
Mark Hunt
Mark Coleman
Came back after a DEVESTATING SLAM from Randleman
Babalu
Heath Herring

That seems like a pretty decent resume to me?[/quote]

But has he ever beaten couture??????? God Damn & Blast It… No he hasn’t.. 1 chance to prove himself as The Best the sport has or will ever see, the muppet passed up for a micky mouse promotion. Its not the UFC’s fault, they like to run their business a certain way which if you sign you are exclusive to the UFC, nothing wrong with that… Its’ the way they do things… who does fedor think he is demanding special treatment, it was ultimatly fedor’s decision to snub the UFC after all he’s the 1 that has to fight, the UFC offered him huge money apparntly but he opted for the fights that that will make him look better. At the end of the day the UFC had the more credible HW champion. Fedor can kiss my ass, i’ve lost all respect.

[quote comment="175118"]Randy’s attitude is not, “I’m not getting enough money.” Randy’s attitude is, “UFC management is taking advantage of me and I don’t need it. I’m going to do just fine without it.”

Also, whats with all this Fedor bashing? I feel that him not signing with UFC is completely justified. He got offered more money and the opportunity to compete in Sambo competitions because he is an embassador of Sambo in Russia. Why wouldn’t he take that? Nobody would give up their rights AND more money, I don’t care what they say.[/quote]
dude where did you here that he got offered more money at M-1??? your telling me that some random company that most of mma fans have never heard of offered him more than 15 million come on dude, Fedor’s afraid of losing his winning streak, hopefully someone will talk some sense into his russian head and make him face the music and fight real competition, myb its too cold in Russia and he ost some brain cells, Randy rules

They should bring Fedor in to the UFC without a contract and let them fight a NON title match for $$$$$$$ I would pay for that PPV.

HOPEFULLY CHUCKS NEXT!!!!!

[quote comment="175089"]I think one of the most shocking aspects of this story was how sudden it was and the manner in which Randy sent his resignation. I’ve noticed a lot of people saying “that’s not like Randy.” That was my thought as well. Reading the interview with Dana White on the UFC website, it does seem like something else is going on, namely Randy is being influenced by this agent of his. Randy negotiated his contract and was happy about it, and as everyone knows he wants to compete. For him to up and quit like that doesn’t make sense, regardless of Fedor or money. It does seem to me that his agent was probably in his ear about not making enough, and about how great he is and only would have to beat Fedor to be considered the best of all time. Randy Couture doesn’t seem like the kind of guy who would quit over who he fights or money. Most fighters say they’ll fight whoever’s in front of them and that it’s not about the money. With Randy, even though he wanted Fedor, he still likes to compete. I don’t know, but I do think aside from Fedor there was plenty Randy could have still done in the heavyweight division. And money? Did you guys see his house on Spike? He owns gyms and clothing lines and does all sorts of business and now has an acting career. I just have a hard time believing Randy is that concerned over money. While I agree that it has been a little stupid how these Pride fighters have walked into the UFC and in their first fights are making a lot of money. I also agree that Fedor is ridiculously overrated and it was insulting to other fighters how much they were offering him. I definitely agree with all of that. I just have a hard time believing Randy Couture would give a crap about all that stuff. He’s the greatest fighter in the world, and he belongs in the octagon, regardless of who’s in front of him or how much his check is worth.

That’s my two cents anyway.[/quote]
Is it?

This could just be a renegotiating technique. Randy’s getting $250k per fight, Chuck is getting $500k and everyone LOVES Randy 100 times more and would never miss a Randy fight. So Randy retires (basically never fighting again). This forces Dana to come to the table to renegotiate his contract to $1 mill or more bc Randy knows he can draw a crowd no matter who he fights.

I think we’ll see Randy back and I think Dana will shell out whatever it takes to get him back.

Awesome, back to Sylvia V. Arlovski 4 times a year. Fantastic. At least we still have Gonzaga & Vera who want and have the ability to put on a fight. In other news, had Couture not broke Gonzaga’s nose via head butt, Gonzaga was about to put it on the old fella. I hope Couture’s new job as a fluffer takes off for him in the industry.

… but honestly, I hope he just stays retired as the best MMA champion ever.

Obviously Randy thinks that nobody in the world can hang with him except for Fedor. I think it’s totally disrespectful to the other fighters in his division to act like that. MMA is about the individual matchups and just because Randy beat ______, doesn’t mean that he wouldn’t get knocked out in his next fight. A fight against Fedor was the perfect ending for his career win or lose. A loss, and everyone will say how brave he was for even fighting against the “unbeatable” Fedor. A win, and he gets to say he overcame all odds and beat the “unbeatable” Fedor. He gets to look good either way and once that wasn’t gonna happen, HE WALKED AWAY. He has nothing left to prove? He never fought Arlovski, CroCop, Nog, Vera, Kongo, he never gave Sylvia a rematch ect, ect. On any given day any of these guys could beat Randy. He wanted nothing less than the perfect ending to his career and he couldn’t get it so he quit. If you see what everyone else is making per fight and you are disrespect by the offer then DONT SIGN THE CONTRACT. He sure wasn’t saying the offer was a slap in the face until all his press got to his head. Class Act indeed.

PW-
That is a brilliant idea about taking the title away from Randy then signing Fedor to a one fight deal. It seems logical, but my only worry is that Randy may not like it because it seems that Dana has burned all the bridges with him. Maybe Randy won’t want to fight for the UFC at all anymore due to these recent developments. Then again, I am not Randy Couture and have no idea what the man is thinking

[quote comment="175175"]Awesome, back to Sylvia V. Arlovski 4 times a year. Fantastic. At least we still have Gonzaga & Vera who want and have the ability to put on a fight. In other news, had Couture not broke Gonzaga’s nose via head butt, Gonzaga was about to put it on the old fella. I hope Couture’s new job as a fluffer takes off for him in the industry.[/quote]
Disrespectful

A lil PS to my previous comment….I also don’t think Dana would like that too much because the risk involved. If Fedor beats Couture and then moves onto M-1, Dana will have to always settle for his Heavyweight Champion being the second best in the world. I think Dana has too much pride to allow for something like that and don’t forsee him risking it.

hey UFCmania,

u get your info from the commission right?, and other reliable sources report the same as you do, so isnt it a proven lie when dana says that couture is the second highest paid in the ufc.

correct me if im wrong but didnt

rampage get $450,000 (225,000 to fight 225,000 to win)
cro cop get $350,000 (350,000 to fight
and wouldnt shogun have gotten $300,000 if he had won his fight also
and randy only got 250,000 and he won his fight.

also dana white reportedly offered floyd mayweather $20,000,000 dollars to fight against sean sherk, and offered fedor $2,000,000 per fight and an immediate title shot.

mania can u tell me if i got my facts mixed up because otherwise if what i just said is true then this is proof that dana white and lorenzo fertita are liars and douschebags to the max.

[quote comment="175136"][quote post="3572"]Honestly, if Dana was ’such good friends’ with Randy, and all Randy wanted to do was go fight 1 last fight with Fedor in M-1 and get paid millions, Dana should let him. [/quote]
No way Dana lets that happen without getting his piece of the pie. What he should do is have Randy surrender the belt, sign Fedor to a one-fight deal, give both fighters a crapload of cash plus PPV percentages and give everyone the fight they want. No titles on the line, just a fight between two of the best fighters in MMA history. The fighters get paid, UFC rakes it in hand over fist, and the fans don’t get cheated out of one of the best fights we could ask for.[/quote]

That is what Im talking about! Get her done! lol

[quote comment="175091"]So Dana puts Foot in Mouth again and now insults the Russian.

Who has Fedor Beaten?
Antonio Nogueira
Cro Cop
Mark Hunt
Mark Coleman
Came back after a DEVESTATING SLAM from Randleman
Babalu
Heath Herring

That seems like a pretty decent resume to me?[/quote]

Well said!

Everyone is taking this out on Fedor. If White is screwing fighters in the UFC over such as Randy, then why should he want to be part of that? There is more to this, the UFC is controlling the fighters. Every fighter wants to be in the UFC not just for the payday but also the sponsership and to be in the public eye!

dana sucks

bring brock to fight now.true heavy weight

[quote comment="175079"]All Im saying is Fedor clearly wants to be able to participate in his home country along with whatever organization signs him. Whats so wrong with that? [/quote]

Would you invest millions in a man just so he can fight in a 2-bit show and blow his knee out. That being said….Couture deserved more respect. Good Luck Randy Couture

[quote comment="175194"]
No way Dana lets that happen without getting his piece of the pie. What he should do is have Randy surrender the belt, sign Fedor to a one-fight deal, give both fighters a crapload of cash plus PPV percentages and give everyone the fight they want. No titles on the line, just a fight between two of the best fighters in MMA history. The fighters get paid, UFC rakes it in hand over fist, and the fans don’t get cheated out of one of the best fights we could ask for.[/quote]

No this is a good idea!

fedor would have broken couture’s arm and humiliated the natural (ala royce)

[quote comment="175127"]This won’t kill the UFC. It may dampen their prospects a little, but not for long. Right now, with Randy leaving, there is a huge void to be filled. Someone else needs to step up and become the face of the UFC. My guess is that it will be Rampage, who is already starting to make his rounds on different media outlets. However, I think someone else also needs to step up and fill in the “these guys have class” spot that Couture served. I’m thinking that GSP could do that. He just needs to get his title back.[/quote]

This time last year Randy was retired and it was unthinkable that Fedor would be part of the UFC. Tim Sylvia was the heavyweight champ. The UFC was nearest its peak in popularity. Now we may have Big Nog or Vera as champ. That’s not so bad.

honestly i don’t see the UFC hate. Yeah they didn’t cave into Fedor’s demands, but you cant’ really blamed them. the UFC would be retarded to let him compete elsewhere. So lets say fedor manages to win the HW title. he goes to russia for his sambo tourney, which ties him up so he can’t compete in the UFC while he prepares for that. bam, there goes 3-6 months. Then he competes and gets injured and is out for a further 3 months. Now we have a sean sherk situation that everyone is complaining about.

You guys saying “oh dana should have let him compete elsewhere!!” yeah that is like the Colts, signing Manning but letting him play for the CFL as well. no team would let a player do that because they have an investment to protect. the same as Dana, if he signs Fedor, then fedor becomes an investment. they have to pay to market him, rely on him to be ready for his contracted fights. It would be a big risk to let him go to russia and possibly get hurt bad enough to end his carreer and then the UFC is out the time and money.

“I actually think that Randy Couture would have smashed Fedor.” Dana White

Ok, Dana has offically lost his friggin mind. Ok so you was gonna pay Fedor an ass of money. Then you turn around and downplay his accomplishments. I don’t get Mr White sometimes.

[quote post="3572"]All Im saying is Fedor clearly wants to be able to participate in his home country along with whatever organization signs him. Whats so wrong with that?[/quote]

It’s called a commitment. What if your significant other said “I still want to be with you, but I want to see someone else on the side”? Nothing wrong with that?

[quote comment="175118"]Randy’s attitude is not, “I’m not getting enough money.” Randy’s attitude is, “UFC management is taking advantage of me and I don’t need it. I’m going to do just fine without it.”

Also, whats with all this Fedor bashing? I feel that him not signing with UFC is completely justified. He got offered more money and the opportunity to compete in Sambo competitions because he is an embassador of Sambo in Russia. Why wouldn’t he take that? Nobody would give up their rights AND more money, I don’t care what they say.[/quote]

I agree 100%. You hit the nail on the head.

I still don’t understand the contractual law side of things. I’d like to know how binding Randy’s contract is?

International law is a funny thing. Does his contract prohibit him from fighting with any other MMA organization in the world or just say in certain countries? Also does Randy’s contract have a buy out clause. Could Randy buy out his contact (say with help from M1 or whatever the new org is called on Oct 23rd)

Randy is dumb.

THOSE OF YOU WHO KEEP CONSISTANTLY SAYING THAT RANDY IS THE BEST – ON TOP…WHATEVA…YOUR BIG TIME WRONG – HE HAD HIS HANCE TO AVENGE HIS LOSS TO THE ICEMAN, BUT HE WAS NOT GOOD ENOUGH – LIDDELL IS BETTER THAN RANDY AT ALL MMA ASPECTS – HE PROVED IT – TWICE! RANDY HAS NOT RETIRED ON TOP – FACT

*CHANCE*

[quote comment="175232"]“I actually think that Randy Couture would have smashed Fedor.” Dana White

Ok, Dana has offically lost his friggin mind. Ok so you was gonna pay Fedor an ass of money. Then you turn around and downplay his accomplishments. I don’t get Mr White sometimes.[/quote]

Randy WOULD have smashed Fedor, look at what he did to GG. White wanted to pay any amount to ensure Randy could have the priceless chance to become the undisputed best heavyweight.

[quote comment="175233"][quote post="3572"]All Im saying is Fedor clearly wants to be able to participate in his home country along with whatever organization signs him. Whats so wrong with that?[/quote]

It’s called a commitment. What if your significant other said “I still want to be with you, but I want to see someone else on the side”? Nothing wrong with that?[/quote]

Good point, people are clueless on this site,

A UFC without Randy is like Rice without salt

[quote comment="175079"]All Im saying is Fedor clearly wants to be able to participate in his home country along with whatever organization signs him. Whats so wrong with that? I dont think Fedor is #1. Clearly Couture is. Im just saying I dont blame Fedor for wanting to sign with a company that gives a little breathing room so he can compete elsewhere.

F it. Get Couture to sign up in the Russian Sambo Competition. lol. We will make Fedor fight Randy. haha[/quote]
I totally agreeg.
If I were #1 I dont have sing up a contract to be a slave of any Company and make them more rich.
BTW I think Couture can kick Fedor´s ass…

47 Should take care of Dana White, I’m sure the ICA’s client will pay 300k for that.

[quote comment="175248"]THOSE OF YOU WHO KEEP CONSISTANTLY SAYING THAT RANDY IS THE BEST – ON TOP…WHATEVA…YOUR BIG TIME WRONG – HE HAD HIS HANCE TO AVENGE HIS LOSS TO THE ICEMAN, BUT HE WAS NOT GOOD ENOUGH – LIDDELL IS BETTER THAN RANDY AT ALL MMA ASPECTS – HE PROVED IT – TWICE! RANDY HAS NOT RETIRED ON TOP – FACT[/quote]

..I look at it differently.

I don’t put Randy vs Chuck under the microscope..to determine their place in MMA history.

Chuck is one of the best strikers to grace the octagon and beat some good fighters and Randy 2X. Thus far the most achieved LHW Champ. Hall of Famer..yes but not the Best MMA Champ ever.

Randy..6X time UFC Champ..Thus far the only fighter to hold the belts in 2 different divisions…His first fight in the UFC was when he was 33. He went against all odds.. The First fighter to beat Vitor when He was considered unstoppable. Retires comes out of retirement to beat the giant Tim Sylvia..defended the belt against an up an coming UFC star Gonzaga..Calls out the Fedor the HH Pride Champ..( Fedor is a HomoThug )..Randy steps out of the octagon at 44..setting the bar for what a Champ should be.

Randy ” The Natural ” Couture..Is in my book one of the Greatest UFC/MMA Champ ever.

[quote comment="175173"]This could just be a renegotiating technique. Randy’s getting $250k per fight, Chuck is getting $500k and everyone LOVES Randy 100 times more and would never miss a Randy fight. So Randy retires (basically never fighting again). This forces Dana to come to the table to renegotiate his contract to $1 mill or more bc Randy knows he can draw a crowd no matter who he fights.

I think we’ll see Randy back and I think Dana will shell out whatever it takes to get him back.[/quote]

Doubtful, only way Couture will come back is to fight Fedor. I can speculate on his opinion a bit: At 44 years old, he could still fight top competition in the UFC like he has for 10 years, he will win some (like with Sylvia, Gonzaga), and loose some (like Barnett, Liddell) just like every fighter. There are still some nice match ups for Randy, Nog comes to mind. Id also like to see him crush Cro Cop, but I don’t think he really cares about it anymore, hes fought Top competition for 10 years, but he has never been able to fight the BEST, and Randy considers Fedor the best. At 44, the only thing he has not done is fought Fedor. If its not going to happen, then there is no reason for him to stay and fight an “upstream” battle with UFC management when he has other good things going on in his career.

He has nothing left to prove in MMA except whether he can beat Fedor or not.

On another note, for those who are commenting on Randy’s contract. I agree and disagree, it does not surprise me that Randy is not the highest paid fighter in the UFC, when he signed this contract he was 43, and the UFC was not sure what impact he would have at that age. Being so near to retirement the UFC probably didn’t want to completely bank on him winning the HW belt and being so dominant in doing so. As Joe Rogan said: “Who would have thought?” UFC was probably thinking they would save big bucks for their fighters that still have a few years left in the UFC like Liddell, or Cro-Cop (at the time of his signing). When I look at it that way I was not surprised that Randy’s contract was not the highest, he was a risk especially coming off 2 knock out losses to Liddell.

However the landscape changed, Liddell got de-champified. Cro-Cop turned out to be Cro-Crap, and Randy of all people beat the 2 most dominant fighters in the HW division at the Time. On top of that, UFC was trying to sign Fedor to fight Randy for 2mil a fight!

After the smoke cleared, Randy probably looked at the situation and said “Wait a minute, I’m getting the fucking shaft!” Because now he IS considered the #1 heavyweight in the UFC and he isn’t getting paid shit. But consider what he was when he first signed that contract. He was a question mark to the UFC.

Its unfortunate that it worked out that way, and I can’t blame Randy for leaving over it. But I also cannot completely blame the UFC for paying him what he was.

The only fucked up thing was paying Fedor 2 mil to fight Randy, that was a slap in the face.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: I don’t like Fedor, and now I don’t even have that much respect for him as a fighter. Randy had a good chance at beating him, better than any other HW in the world. It’s so sad to know that fight will never happen.

I still don’t understand what the big deal was about the UFC contract. I understand not wanting to let a man that you’re paying a guaranteed $2M per fight, fight in other organizations and risk injury but there are ways around that. You can offer huge guaranteed win bonuses w/negotiable pay to just show up. Then if the idiot gets hurt in a Sambo tournament, he only gets paid big if he wins in the octagon. The UFC looks good because they brought the big Russian in, Randy gets his history/legacy-making fight, Fedor assumes all responsibility for his career flop and everyone’s happy.

Oh well. We can talk about this all we want, but it’s over.

Now everytime I see Fedor’s ugly, pudgy mug, it’ll make me sick because I’ll blame him for Randy’s exit from mixed-martial arts.

I’ve been talking about fighter pay for a long time now, and in a way this is good to shock the world into paying more fucking attention to the travesty of current mma fighter compensation. No one is immune, not even Randy Couture. The UFC needs to pay fighters more, PERIOD. The UFC is making money, and I know it’s difficult to restructure a company voluntarily to lose income (by spreading it out to fighters) but they really need to do it. If ANYTHING brings the UFC down in the future, it’ll come down to fighter compensation. Other organizations like EliteXC have figured this out but haven’t found a way to execute it successfully yet. One day someone will, and then it’s either going to force the UFC to change or will start hurting them by removing talent from their pool.

This is not a happy day for me. Where’s a heavy bag when you need one?

[quote comment="175126"][quote comment="175108"][quote comment="175091"]So Dana puts Foot in Mouth again and now insults the Russian.

Who has Fedor Beaten?
Antonio Nogueira
Cro Cop
Mark Hunt
Mark Coleman
Came back after a DEVESTATING SLAM from Randleman
Babalu
Heath Herring

That seems like a pretty decent resume to me?[/quote]
..Yupp, i agree.
But Randy has a good one too!

Belfort
Liddell
Ortiz
Rizzo
Randleman
Sylvia
Gonzaga[/quote]
Maurice Smith
and Van Arsdale… to add to Coutures list. At 44 years old I’m sure the only matchup to motivate Randy enough would be Fedor… He said if he fought anyone else it would only be for money… so he stepped aside. The whole fiasco begins and ends with Fedors choice.[/quote]

NTVMAN, most of they guys on that list are guys that were in the light heavy weight division when randy fought them.
Bizarro Tommy, nice way of listing decent fighters that Emelienenko has fought. For fucks sake, Tim Sylvia held the heavy weight belt, and Jeff fucking Monson was fighting him in a title fight. That my friends is a fucking joke. Why do you think Randy Couture doesn’t want to waste his time with any more heavy weights in the UFC. He wanted the best. Randy admits that Fedor Emelianenko is the best or 2nd best heavy weight out there so him retiring because he can’t fight him anymore in the UFC makes sense.
Come on, Dana White saying that he didn’t give a shit is just making him look like more of a moron. Saying that Emelianenko is not the best is a pretty stupid statement by White. Why would you offer a guy who isn’t even the top fighter in the world 7 figures? Why would you be talking to the guy almost every day while they were in negotiations to get him to sign if he isn’t the best? I’m reading the posts on here and I keep seeing “fuck fedor, fedor’s a pussy, fedor’s an asshole, etc” shut the fuck up. Fedor made a business decision that would suit him. The UFC should have let him participate in these sambo competitions but should have included a clause that would penalize Fedor for not being able to fulfill his obligation with the fights in the UFC, lets say for example like an injury. If it happened during those competitions, then he could have been penalized. And on a side note, why the hell would Brandon Vera be mentioned as a title contender for the heavy weight title. That’s a fucking joke.

Let’s take a look back at the 10 greatest fights of his career in the UFC, all of which helped create the legend that is Randy Couture.

10. Couture vs. Vitor Belfort III, UFC 49
When Couture climbed into the Octagon on the smoldering night of Aug. 21, 2004, “The Natural” was again trying to reclaim his lost title. In his previous outing, Couture had lost his light heavyweight belt to Belfort after a glancing punch and the threading of Belfort’s glove lacerated his eye.

In the rubber match at UFC 49, a large number of MMA “experts” figured that Couture had finally reached his peak and the fight was about to become a steppingstone. These experts were a little wrong, to say the least.

Couture dominated his younger, quicker and more athletic opponent and wound up pummeling Belfort so badly that “The Phenom” had to be rescued by his corner after the third round. A battered, bloody and beleaguered Belfort had never before been so brutally punished.

The loss was so devastating that the Brazilian never regained the nightmarish fighting prowess that had made him such a dangerous fighter. In the end, Couture recaptured his 205-pound title and in essence ended Belfort’s career as a legitimate threat.

9. Couture vs. Chuck Liddell II, UFC 52
This fight was a devastating loss on Couture’s résumé and the first time he was knocked out. Of all the murderous strikers that he locked horns with, nobody had come close to snatching away his consciousness. For the first time in his career, Couture was a heavy favorite, not an underdog. After handling Liddell easily in their first encounter, most assumed he’d replicate that feat.

Unfortunately for Couture, that didn’t happen. He was stopped in the first round, handing Liddell the light heavyweight title. The fight is memorable because it showed that after a remarkable string of inhuman accomplishments inside the Octagon, Couture was, after all, a human being.

The loss also allowed Couture the luxury of becoming “too old” and “too worn out” as a fighter. The bout was supposed to end Couture’s reign as the king, but that never came close to reality.

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Randy Couture emerged victorious in his spirited battle with Gabriel Gonzaga.
8. Couture vs. Gabriel Gonzaga, UFC 74
This was the last time the world saw the living legend inside the Octagon. As usual, Couture was picked by many to lose to the cliché younger, stronger, more powerful fighter.

Gonzaga was the media and fans’ choice everywhere solely because he had nearly decapitated the vaunted Mirko “Cro Cop” Filipovic with a crippling head kick. He was also known primarily as a Couture-type fighter in that nobody expected this sort of striking ability, especially against one of the greatest pure strikers in MMA.

Couture willingly accepted the challenge and whipped Gonzaga from start to finish. He badly hurt the larger heavyweight, scored numerous takedowns and bombarded him with the trademark Couture ground-and-pound en route to a third-round stoppage.

At 44, Couture held onto his heavyweight title and walked out as arguably the greatest fighter to ever step foot inside the Octagon. What makes this fight so special is that Gonzaga will probably go on to become a heavyweight champion. On this night, however, he was owned by a man almost old enough to qualify for a senior discount.

7. Couture vs. Vitor Belfort I, UFC 15
Couture had fought only twice professionally and was basically a pure wrestler at this point. He could land some strikes on the ground, and he seemed like a competent contender, but Vitor Belfort was regarded as the future. He was a young kid without a ceiling on his potential, and he had destroyed every man thrown in front of him. Tank Abbott, Scott Ferrozzo, Jon Hess and Tra Telligman were all obliterated, with the longest fight lasting a mere 77 seconds. Belfort seemed absolutely invincible.

As it turned out, the monumental underdog thwarted everything Belfort threw his way and systematically dismantled the Brazilian in just over eight minutes.

Couture smothered him. He battered him. He slammed him and rained down vicious elbows. It looked like a man against a boy. Never before had a fighter so deadly as Belfort been handled so easily, and the win marked the first time in his career that Couture had proved the so-called pundits wrong. In reality, this was the dawn of Couture’s legacy.

6. Couture vs. Pedro Rizzo II, UFC 34
After their torrid first encounter in which some insiders felt Rizzo deserved the victory, Couture slightly retooled his game plan and punished “The Rock” for over two full rounds.

Rizzo couldn’t land his legendary leg kicks for fear of being slammed onto his back. He also couldn’t reel off his lethal punches, either, because Couture’s defense and angles were giving the Brazilian knockout artist fits. Rizzo had never been beaten so soundly and so emphatically, and many wondered why their initial meeting was as close as it was.

Couture had figured out Rizzo and worn him down in his greatest masterpiece to date. He scored takedowns almost at will and delivered vicious elbows and punches from within Rizzo’s guard, from side-control and from full-mount. Early in the third round, Rizzo was an exhausted and bludgeoned shell of the dangerous title challenger that had entered the cage.

In victory, Couture erased any doubt as to whom the best heavyweight in the sport was, at least in the UFC. Additionally, considering how poor Zuffa’s previous card had been, he capped off an event that desperately needed his performance.

5. Couture vs. Kevin Randleman, UFC 28
“The Monster” was supposed to be a fighter just like Couture — except twice as explosive and twice as powerful. Couture seemed slow in comparison to Randleman, and though “The Natural” had earlier pummeled Belfort, he had also lost to opponents Valentijn Overeem, Enson Inoue and Mikhail Illoukhine. On top of that, those fights weren’t even in the UFC, and many believed that Couture had seen his best days.

Randleman was the prototypical killing machine, a disciple of Mark “The Hammer” Coleman, who was expected to be even better than his mentor. In the end, Couture prevailed and left the taste of shoe soles in many a mouth.

Couture outmuscled and outwrestled Randleman, and when he needed to, he administered a hammer-esque beating that The Monster, himself a former UFC champion, had little answer for. It seemed as though every time Randleman tried something, Couture had the perfect response. He scored takedowns, blocked strikes and smothered his muscular opponent from start to finish.

Along with his triumph over Belfort, Couture had squashed another young opponent expected to be a future star.

4. Couture vs. Tito Ortiz, UFC 44
Ortiz was the defending light heavyweight champion. Even though Couture was fresh off a win over dangerous Chuck Liddell, most predicted that the younger Ortiz, arguably the pound-for-pound king at the time, would outlast Couture and retain his title.

Couture had his own “interim” title, a belt that irked Ortiz. Tito promised to “punish” Couture and belittled him in his classic trash-talking pre-fight propaganda.

At first the fight was a chess match between two evenly matched men, and the bout appeared to be just a matter of who wanted the win more and whose stamina would prevail. Ortiz fought as hard as he ever had, but he was reduced to an ashamed and beaten former champion by night’s end.

Couture figured out the game plan on how to topple the brash Ortiz and won going away, nabbing a unanimous decision. Near the end of the fifth round, a desperate Ortiz tried in vain to secure a leg lock, but the soon-to-be-champion Couture taunted him by tapping his trunks, poking fun of the failed submission.

The win marked the first time in UFC history that a fighter had captured a world title in two separate weight classes. Couture, once thought to be a shot and old fighter, used his dominance of Ortiz to prove just the opposite.

Ortiz scored a few sizable wins down the road, though this was arguably the last time he entered the bout as one of the elite fighters of his generation. In a sense, Couture ended that reign as well.

3. Couture vs. Chuck Liddell I, UFC 43
Couture had lost two consecutive fights, both by stoppage. Most experts thought he was done (see the trend here?), and since Liddell was on such a roll at the time with 10 straight wins over solid foes, Couture was a walking corpse in the eyes of many. Liddell was eventually going to land one of his lethal strikes on Couture’s chin and send the washed-up fighter into exile.

Yeah, we’d heard that all before.

Couture, not known as much of a striker, boxed beautifully and kept Liddell guessing all fight long. “The Iceman” could do nothing against the shorter Couture and ate strike after strike after strike. Eventually Couture started scoring takedowns, and Liddell was unable to get back up. Opening up a relentless ground-and-pound attack, Couture stopped the seemingly unbeatable Liddell midway through the third round.

Couture won the “interim” light heavyweight title with the triumph, to date the biggest of his career. At the time it was a monumental upset and, shockingly, it wasn’t the last time that Couture would enter the cage as a prohibitive underdog.

He set the blueprint for how to dominate Liddell, which a few fighters have followed, even after Liddell became one of the two most dominant 205-pounders in UFC history.

2. Couture vs. Pedro Rizzo 1, UFC 31
Without question, this is one of the five greatest UFC fights of all time. For five rounds the two heavyweights unloaded every attack in their arsenal. Neither budged. They wanted this fight as badly as any two contenders before them, but it was Couture who squeaked past Rizzo for the heavyweight title.

The fight was all but over in the first when Couture delivered one of the most brutal ground-and-pound attacks during a five-minute stretch. Yet Rizzo somehow survived to return a beating on Couture in the second. Both rounds could have easily been scored 10-8, and after three it was a wonder how either man was still standing. There were two rounds left, mind you. Rizzo battered Couture’s legs so badly that they were black and blue for a month and “The Natural” had a difficult time walking.

The fight brought out the best in both men, and many have argued that Rizzo should have won. The UFC treated MMA fans with a rematch three events later, in which Couture simply overwhelmed Rizzo via stoppage. But on this night, May 4, 2001, fans witnessed one of the greatest, most memorable wars of all time.

It was easily the most exciting fight of Couture’s career and the first time he had to dig deep after nearly being stopped in the second. It was magnificence personified on both fighters’ ends, but Couture had his hand raised. That fight was also the last time Rizzo was at the top of his game, and many believe Couture is the reason.

1. Couture vs. Tim Sylvia, UFC 68
Sure, Sylvia is not the greatest heavyweight of all time. He definitely isn’t Fedor Emelianenko. Nor is he Cro Cop, Nogueira, Barnett or a prime Coleman. He was, however, the defending champion who had scored some huge wins over big names.

Sylvia is a massive fighter with some of the most powerful strikes in the sport, and with Couture returning after a year’s retirement, most considered him far beyond his prime. On the heels of a pedestrian win over journeyman Mike Van Arsdale and two brutal knockout losses to Liddell, Couture looked old and slow.

The Miletich-trained fighter was also almost impossible to take down. Since Couture would stand no chance of getting inside the lurching Sylvia’s reach, he was a massive underdog. This writer proclaimed that Couture stood “zero chance” of beating Sylvia.

Well, 10 seconds into the fight, when Sylvia was crumbling to the canvas thanks to a Couture right hand, everybody knew he was doomed. That right hand was a microcosm of what was to come, which was an embarrassing beating over five rounds in which Sylvia was reduced to an amateur. Couture had never looked this vicious, this relentless. He stood toe-to-toe, took his foe down and even had Sylvia caught in a few submissions.

In the end, Couture proved why he is the perfect underdog. He displayed one of the greatest performances in heavyweight history, never looking like a man pushing his mid-40s as he outclassed the “younger, stronger, more powerful” opponent for the umpteenth time.

With the victory, Couture became heavyweight champion again and solidified his status as the fighter who has scored the most remarkable and unthinkable victories this sport has ever seen.

I guess all you bit##es must agree with me. The Oracle has spoken!

[quote comment="175124"][quote comment="175108"][quote comment="175091"]So Dana puts Foot in Mouth again and now insults the Russian.

Who has Fedor Beaten?
Antonio Nogueira
Cro Cop
Mark Hunt
Mark Coleman
Came back after a DEVESTATING SLAM from Randleman
Babalu
Heath Herring

That seems like a pretty decent resume to me?[/quote]
..Yupp, i agree.
But Randy has a good one too!

Belfort
Liddell
Ortiz
Rizzo
Randleman
Sylvia
Gonzaga[/quote]

..Take a good look at who Fedor has beatin..and look at some of them now..
For starters:

Marc Coleman is Pride’s Ken Shamrock

Crop cop.. new name should be Crapcop

Babalu..beats up the David Heaths of the world

Heath Herring..Lost to Some Joe..I for get his name

Big Nog… His legit

Mark Hunt.. No Ground..

Who has he beatin???

Now he’ll be fighting in some backyard in Siberia.[/quote]

It’s like that huh? Allright

look who couture’s beaten

Belfort… was good for the first 3 fights of his carrer has been MIA for a few years now
Liddell… first off he got KO’d twice by him, second Liddell just lost 2 in a row
Ortiz… Gimme a break it’s over for him, he can’t even beat Evans
Rizzo… tough guy but last I heard if him he was fighting Jeff Monson somewhere
Sylvia… the most boring heavyweight champ to watch ever, the guy fights not to lose.
Gonzaga… who has he beat? he got lucky against Cro Cop

So you can’t say shit about Fedor’s opponents when Couture’s are not any better

Oh and let me remind you of their record Couture 16-8 Fedor 27-1 and you even really can’t count that loss, it should of been a no contest but it was a tournament, so there had to be a winner and loser.

[quote post="3572"]THOSE OF YOU WHO KEEP CONSISTANTLY SAYING THAT RANDY IS THE BEST – ON TOP…WHATEVA…YOUR BIG TIME WRONG – HE HAD HIS HANCE TO AVENGE HIS LOSS TO THE ICEMAN, BUT HE WAS NOT GOOD ENOUGH – LIDDELL IS BETTER THAN RANDY AT ALL MMA ASPECTS – HE PROVED IT – TWICE! RANDY HAS NOT RETIRED ON TOP – FACT [/quote]

LOLOLOLOL, at ALL MMA aspects?? Wow, have you seen in fights besides Chuck/Randy 2 and 3? Chuck is just about as 1 dimensional as they come. Randy is at the forefront of complete MMA fighters. He started out as a Greco-Roman wrestler so he has phenominal wresting, obviously way better than Chucks. So your wrong already. Randy is better in the clinch than Chuck. Randy has better BJJ than Chuck. Randy has way better conditioning than Chuck. The only aspect of MMA that Chuck has an edge on Randy is standup. And to tell you the truth, seeing each of their last two fights, Randy is getting pretty dang close!

[quote comment="175124"][quote comment="175108"][quote comment="175091"]So Dana puts Foot in Mouth again and now insults the Russian.

Who has Fedor Beaten?
Antonio Nogueira
Cro Cop
Mark Hunt
Mark Coleman
Came back after a DEVESTATING SLAM from Randleman
Babalu
Heath Herring

That seems like a pretty decent resume to me?[/quote]
..Yupp, i agree.
But Randy has a good one too!

Belfort
Liddell
Ortiz
Rizzo
Randleman
Sylvia
Gonzaga[/quote]

..Take a good look at who Fedor has beatin..and look at some of them now..
For starters:

Marc Coleman is Pride’s Ken Shamrock

Crop cop.. new name should be Crapcop

Babalu..beats up the David Heaths of the world

Heath Herring..Lost to Some Joe..I for get his name

Big Nog… His legit

Mark Hunt.. No Ground..

Who has he beatin???

Now he’ll be fighting in some backyard in Siberia.[/quote]

babalu has beatin a lot better than heath
crocop was at the peak of his career..a pretty damn good career so far.
coleman was still real good..he won 7/8 leading up to the first fight with his only loss to big nog.
heath herring is dangerous for anybody..just look at his last fight..almost knocked big nog out with a head kick.
keep bashing a**hole

250,000 was just his base salary, not counting ppv % revenues that he gets. im sure randy made over 1 mil for his last fight. im a big a randy fan as there gets but some of the statements sound contradictory. resigning because they didnt get fedor and then complaining about the money offered to fedor. they didnt have a chance to sign him without the big money offers. i agree w/ some of the others who say its about respect, i mean he wont even be announcing anymore! i think thers more to this story than were being told. i said it once and i,ll say it again i thought dana and the fertittas showed the utmost respect for randy when thy let him fight for the hw title after a year layoff and 2 straight ko,s to chuck. he proved he deserved it, i dont think he is owed anything extra. i still think he might be using this for leverage and could still come back. maybee in a year or so he could come back and fight the champ. the winner of vera/sylvia vs the winner of nog/kongo for the title. then whoever that is could fightm A.A., then randy could fight that winner. or maybee he will come back sooner and fight the winner of chuck/wandi. i’m sure he would like another crack at chuck, but this time at hw. him vs wandi could be a big fight as well. randy is my favorite athlete in all sports so im desperate for any possible scenario. w/ all this money left for not signing fedor or paying randy there’s no excuse for not paying A.A and signing guys like barnett,huntor brock.

Can everyone at least agree that fedor is and should be takin out of the top 5 heavyweights of the world?
He stopped competing why should we give him number 1? Nobody say, he just wanted to fight in russia or they offered him more money. He has money, Enough money never to work again, He has already fought in Russia. He can go 2 years without fighting in russia nobody will give a shit.
There I proved it. Can nobody figure out that hes doing his best to stay unbeaten, and stay number 1. Well, do you know whats going to happen know. BAMM Fedor decides to join ufc after randy is gone, Or he doesnt join ufc ever. either way I think EVERYONE should stop giving a shit about this “unstoppable russin cyborg, who instead of fighting A level competition, Decides to fight bumms for a couple of million dollars MORE!!!!!”

[quote comment="175255"][quote comment="175233"][quote post="3572"]All Im saying is Fedor clearly wants to be able to participate in his home country along with whatever organization signs him. Whats so wrong with that?[/quote]

It’s called a commitment. What if your significant other said “I still want to be with you, but I want to see someone else on the side”? Nothing wrong with that?[/quote]

Good point, people are clueless on this site,[/quote]

You mean shit with out flies?

Randy is a much better mma fighter than chuck lidell is or ever was. Who ever doesn’t agree is on crack. Randy at 44 is the heavy weight champ. Chuck at 38 is not the champ, and he just got a beating by Jardine who is not even a top ten fighter.
I wonder , naw i know where chuck is going to be at 44. On his couch filling his fat gut with chips and beer. He already looks like a has-been.

Cheers to Randy for not leting that bald headed parasite keep making millions off him.

i don’t blame dana white at all for randy retiring, i actually thank him for bringing randy back to fight sylvia, a fight that at the time i was like what is he thinking, dana white doing that allowed me to gain even more respect for randy couture…i think when randy came back to fight syliva he was just a retired athlete wanting to get back out there and compete and when he won it was somewhat of a surprise even to him, i think he was fighting fight to fight anyway and at his age retirement again was always on his mind…dana white tried as hard as he could and i believe that to get fedor signed and give us all that fight, but in the end fedor just wouldn’t sign…we all bad mouth guys like terrell owens for being greedy and wanting more money, but fedor is worse than all of them, he epitomizes what a selfish athlete really is, he’s supposed to be the best of the best and a true champion, he’s not a champion, not to me, if he was then he would of taken what i’m sure was the most money ever offered to a fighter in mma history and came to the ufc to fight the best, instead he turned his nose up to it and went to m-1, which i’ve never heard of to fight joe nobody for a couple more dollars, you’re a punk fedor and in my book will always be a pussy for not fighting couture when he was fighting at his best, you can come to the ufc a year or two from now and dominate everybody and it still wouldn’t change my mind, the reality is you were too scared to fight randy couture when he was at his best, randy will always be the champ to me and you’ll always be a fucking chump…

Sound like Randy is now the TO of MMA. You sign a contract live with it!! He thought it was a good one when he was loosing fights. But now that he won 2 fights he wants to renegotiate. You are a man it was your hand that signed that contract. And I bet was all smiles and thanked Dana right after he signed it. Not trying to defend Dana I actually think that he needs to pay more to the newcomers(3k to fight on TV that’s crap), but Randy is not a superhero with super morals, he signed a contract and now he is acting just as TO. And I wouldn’t be surprised if he was #2 paid fighter in UFC at the time he signed his contract. It was simple math for Randy how can he make more money? fight in UFC or Hollywood, so I guess he be lives he can make more then 250, 00 in Hollywood, well more power to him. But no reason disusing this as anything else. If this was Tito people would have killed him on here

i just read on ufc.com that dana said that he thinks randy is being influenced by what he calls his scumbag hollywood agent, and that when he talks to randy in person, things could possibly change. all this was done over a fax. not a good way to get a good perspective on things. i dont think this is over yet.

[quote comment="175374"]Sound like Randy is now the TO of MMA. You sign a contract live with it!! He thought it was a good one when he was loosing fights. But now that he won 2 fights he wants to renegotiate. You are a man it was your hand that signed that contract. And I bet was all smiles and thanked Dana right after he signed it. Not trying to defend Dana I actually think that he needs to pay more to the newcomers(3k to fight on TV that’s crap), but Randy is not a superhero with super morals, he signed a contract and now he is acting just as TO. And I wouldn’t be surprised if he was #2 paid fighter in UFC at the time he signed his contract. It was simple math for Randy how can he make more money? fight in UFC or Hollywood, so I guess he be lives he can make more then 250, 00 in Hollywood, well more power to him. But no reason disusing this as anything else. If this was Tito people would have killed him on here[/quote]

i disagree man, randy’s not holding out for more money, he’s retiring, he has nothing else left to prove if he can’t fight the best, it makes sense for him to go out on top…it happens all the time in professional sports where athletes retire before their contracts are up…you’re getting retirement confused with a holdout for more money, two completely different things…

FYI couture has never used the work retire. he said that he resigns from his UFC contract. dana is the one that said couture is retiring.

if he is only resiging, then it leaves the door open for couture vs fedor in m1 with mark cuban inking the deal.

i hope randy keeps commentating.

now that coutures gone :*( who’s going to be champion? am i missing anyone from the top of the ufc hw food chain?

arlovski (where is this guy)
sylvia
vera
kongo
crocop
gonzaga
werdum
minitouro

i never really thought

[quote comment="175048"]Fedor is a chump. Randy is the greatest![/quote]

Randy is a chump. He’s out of UFC because he’s afraid of top competition.

about it, but i think kongo would take sylvia!

(sorry about the split post)

R.I.P. Fedor

[quote comment="175400"][quote comment="175374"]Sound like Randy is now the TO of MMA. You sign a contract live with it!! He thought it was a good one when he was loosing fights. But now that he won 2 fights he wants to renegotiate. You are a man it was your hand that signed that contract. And I bet was all smiles and thanked Dana right after he signed it. Not trying to defend Dana I actually think that he needs to pay more to the newcomers(3k to fight on TV that’s crap), but Randy is not a superhero with super morals, he signed a contract and now he is acting just as TO. And I wouldn’t be surprised if he was #2 paid fighter in UFC at the time he signed his contract. It was simple math for Randy how can he make more money? fight in UFC or Hollywood, so I guess he be lives he can make more then 250, 00 in Hollywood, well more power to him. But no reason disusing this as anything else. If this was Tito people would have killed him on here[/quote]

i disagree man, randy’s not holding out for more money, he’s retiring, he has nothing else left to prove if he can’t fight the best, it makes sense for him to go out on top…it happens all the time in professional sports where athletes retire before their contracts are up…you’re getting retirement confused with a holdout for more money, two completely different things…[/quote]

I know what u r trying to say and you r right but only if you choose to ignore half of the statement., It was Randy that was offender by the #2 money talk, and what was he doing even talking about that, if it wasn’t about the money. I think it’s like this: He wants to fight Fedor cause if he wins that one, it elevates his place in history that much more. Now that Fedor is gone 250K/per is not enough to keep him in the game, he tried to get a raise using his current position as leverage, it didn’t work so he is moving on. don’t get me wrong I don’t really have a problem with him doing whatever that’s in his interest, but it is what it is, and people who blindly admire him and blame others just because it’s Randy. and right now he is liked.

All MMA fighters are now in debt to Randy. Cotoure taking this stance is now going to revolutionize fighter salaries for good.

He is true champion in every sense

Why is everybody so suprised about Randy retiring? He is 44 years old for saint patricks sake.

There are two ways I look at this. One is that Dana and Lorenzo, if they did lie to Randy about the payscale, were way out of line, and Randy had every right to be angry about it.

On the other hand, I could very well imagine that Dana and Lorenzo told him that just to make him happy. The only reason they would be talking about that in the first place is that Randy was complaining about money, which he had absolutely zero ground to do. Randy is complaining about respect, but he failed to respect the contract HE signed by fulfilling the contract without complaining about the terms he chose.

Just based on the information that has leaked out, I find both parties at fault. But I find Randy more at fault; this is essentially about the fact that he has better options available right now, and rather than retire gracefully, he’s taking the low road.

dana talks shit about any fighter who doesn’t sign with ufc, it’s over done with, interesting that if randy wants to fight it will be under ufc banner anyways maybe this year later on they will get fedor to fight or something or maybe next year. i just think these 2 will meet someday

I just hope this stirs up some more revenue for the fighters. Unionize if the fighters are so tight!

BIZZARRO TSo Dana puts Foot in Mouth again and now insults the Russian.

Who has Fedor Beaten?
Antonio Nogueira-GOT KO’D BY HERRING AND HE LET HIM REGAIN COMPOSURE AND LET HIM BACK UP—-BOTH OVERRATED
Cro Cop——DONE
Mark Hunt—5 AND 3 MMA RECORD
Mark Coleman—GOT BEAT BY ALL A LIST FIGHTERS
Came back after a DEVESTATING SLAM from Randleman— GOOD ONE
Babalu—MUCH SMALLER
Heath Herring—YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME

That seems like a pretty decent resume to me? —- NOT QUITE

NOW THIS IS AN IMPRESSIVE RESUMEE

Win Gabriel Gonzaga TKO (Strikes) UFC 74 – Respect 8/25/2007 3 1:37
Win Tim Sylvia Decision (Unanimous) UFC 68 – Uprising 3/3/2007 5 5:00
Loss Chuck Liddell KO (Punch) UFC 57 – Liddell vs Couture 3 2/4/2006 2 1:28
Win Mike Van Arsdale Submission (Anaconda Choke) UFC 54 – Boiling Point 8/20/2005 3 0:52
Loss Chuck Liddell KO (Punches) UFC 52 – Couture vs Liddell 2 4/16/2005 1 2:06
Win Vitor Belfort TKO (Doctor Stoppage) UFC 49 – Unfinished Business 8/21/2004 3 5:00
Loss Vitor Belfort TKO (Cut) UFC 46 – Supernatural 1/31/2004 1 0:49
Win Tito Ortiz Decision (Unanimous) UFC 44 – Undisputed 9/26/2003 5 5:00
Win Chuck Liddell TKO (Punches) UFC 43 – Meltdown 6/6/2003 3 2:39
Loss Ricco Rodriguez Submission (Strikes) UFC 39 – The Warriors Return 9/27/2002 5 3:04
Loss Josh Barnett TKO (Strikes) UFC 36 – Worlds Collide 3/22/2002 2 4:35
Win Pedro Rizzo TKO (Strikes) UFC 34 – High Voltage 11/2/2001 3 1:38
Win Pedro Rizzo Decision (Unanimous) UFC 31 – Locked & Loaded 5/4/2001 5 5:00
Loss Valentijn Overeem Submission (Guillotine Choke) Rings – King of Kings 2000 Final 2/24/2001 1 0:56
Win Tsuyoshi Kohsaka Decision (Unanimous) Rings – King of Kings 2000 Final 2/24/2001 2 5:00
Win Kevin Randleman TKO (Strikes) UFC 28 – High Stakes 11/17/2000 3 4:13
Win Ryushi Yanagisawa Decision (Majority) Rings – King of Kings 2000 Block A 10/9/2000 2 5:00
Win Jeremy Horn Decision (Unanimous) Rings – King of Kings 2000 Block A 10/9/2000 3 5:00
Loss Mikhail Illoukhine Submission (Kimura) Rings – Rise 1st 3/20/1999 1 7:43
Loss Enson Inoue Submission (Armbar) VTJ 1998 – Vale Tudo Japan 1998 10/25/1998 1 1:39
Win Maurice Smith Decision UFC Japan – Ultimate Japan 1 12/21/1997 1 21:00
Win Vitor Belfort TKO (Strikes) UFC 15 – Collision Course 10/17/1997 1 8:16
Win Steven Graham TKO (Strikes) UFC 13 – The Ultimate Force 5/30/1997 1 3:13
Win Tony Halme Submission (Rear Choke) UFC 13 – The Ultimate Force 5/30/1997 1 0:56

agreed, figheters gotta unionize

ya but neither of them have a win over Jonathan Goulet!

“This business is like a beauty salon. These guys are all the toughest guys in the world, but they’re like (expletives) in a beauty salon. They pass along rumors and gossip, which has no basis in reality and they believe all the (rumors) they hear. The Internet is very powerful and one of the best promotional tools we have, but it’s a crazy place. They hear these rumors and they believe them and then they get insulted like (expletives) after we try to talk reality with them. They’ll say, “Well, this guy is getting this much,’ but when I ask where they heard it, it’s never a contract, it’s always, “I read it on the Internet.’ It’s crazy.”

Mania Im curious where do you get your figures for
all the fighters salary? I noticed the fighters salary and earnings in fights has been posted on this site.

If Fedor wasn’t such a b*tch, and making all these stupid demands, and would just not give a f*ck like a real man, he would have fought in the UFC against the best there is and been paid the most there is as well….Let him go his own way I guess. Maybe he doubts himself and doesnt think he will live up to the expectations. I think Randy would have won too anyways.

[quote post="3572"]Fedor didnt want to fight the best in the world, so he does not belong as #1 in any rankings. In order to be the best, you have to continually beat the best.
wrong. quit saying that crap dude.
Fedor wants to fight in his home country in Sambo competitions. UFC prohibits it when youre signed. Blame the UFC not Fedor or Couture.
No “DUDE”
Blame the idiot Russian. it is HIS choice to fight in those stupid minor compititions. I understand patriotism and all that jazz but every fighter somewhere WANTS to be the best in the world and the dum$hit is …yes.. afraid of RC. Why else would he pass the oportunity up to be the #1, undisputed, badd ass HW of all time? Think about it. Clearly it had nothing to do with money from what I hear they offered him but w.e. [/quote]
Well said, Fedor could easily miss 1 or 2 sambo fights to prove he is the best, but he knows he is not the best, that is why he has made outrageous demands to Dana ,because he new he would not sign him, thus saving him from getting smashed by Couture,yet still making a (LAME) effort to fight him. Fedor has seen his Pride competition get owned by lesser fighters than Randy. Bottom line: Randy WANTS FEDOR AT ALL COSTS. FEDOR SEEMS TO BE AVOIDING RANDY AT ALL COSTS (beleive me if Fedor doesn’t fight Randy it will cost him his legacy) he will be remembered as a coward.

[quote post="3572"]Id never think that Randy would leave due to money.
To Randy it was about RESPECT, not money. And he felt that the UFC was not showing him much, if any at all. Dana lied to his face saying that he is the 2nd highest paid fighter next to Chuck. He blatantly lied to his face. His “uphill battles with UFC management” also means that they were not respecting him like they should have. He’s Randy The Natural Couture. Give the man what he wants. Randy along with several other fighters built the UFC and made it what it is today. Randy and Chuck being the top 2. Randy, who brings in just as much money to the UFC as anyone, makes $250k for his title defenses. Meanwhile, Fedor who has never fought in the UFC so therefore he has never made a penny for the UFC, was offered over $2 million, guaranteed. And rightfully so , Randy said that he wouldnt fight unless he got paid the same, or MORE since he is the champ. This is not a money issue. Randy has money. It is a RESPECT issue!
I want to know the details about Randy’s contract. Most people think that after 9 months, the contract is over with. Hoever, Dana seems to think that he has Randy by the balls and that Randy can’t fight in a sanctioned fight until he fulfills his 2 fights left on his contract with the UFC.
Honestly, if Dana was ’such good friends’ with Randy, and all Randy wanted to do was go fight 1 last fight with Fedor in M-1 and get paid millions, Dana should let him.
Great post Violent Mike! Can you or anyone else explain to me what the hell was the point in spending all that money to purchase PRIDE, when many Pride fighters are not joining the UFC. How is Fedor allowed to sign with another company? I thought that the reason for the Pride purchase was to set up dream matches. Now we got guys like Gomi, Fedor, Soukoudjou all signing with other companies. Weren’t the Pride fighters assets of the Pride Company. When you purchase a company you get all it’s assets. Can any one please explain to me how fighters like Fedor and Gomi can just go sign with other companies.
I also do not believe that its about the money with Randy. Mike u r completely correct when you said its all about Respect.
I was the biggest Fedor fan ever, and now this Russian asswhole signed with another company and is one of the reason’s Randy is retiring! This has to be the worst mma day ever!!!!!!!!! I hope Randy reconsiders. At least fight Noguerra. Dana step up and pay the man the kind of money other top fighters are getting, or allow him to go to M-1 to fight Fedor for one fight, since u two r such good freinds!!
This news has made me sick to my stomach! Im out!!!! [/quote]
John ,I read somewhere that the main reason was to get the rights of Fedor, only to find out later that he didn’t come with the package.

[quote post="3572"]fedor would have broken couture’s arm and humiliated the natural (ala royce) [/quote]
The same CC that messed up Fedors face was totally out of his league against GG. Randy is in GG’s league. Randy would mess up Fedors face just like Tim and GG.

Although it is sad that Randy Couture is resigning, at least we still got fighters like BJ PENN. There are many new fighters who are up and coming. Don’t get me wrong, I love watching Randy fight and believe he was treated unfairly by the UFC, but there are a lot more exciting fighters to watch. One in particular being BJ PENN.

[quote comment="175074"][quote post="3572"]Id never think that Randy would leave due to money. [/quote]

To Randy it was about RESPECT, not money. And he felt that the UFC was not showing him much, if any at all. Dana lied to his face saying that he is the 2nd highest paid fighter next to Chuck. He blatantly lied to his face. His “uphill battles with UFC management” also means that they were not respecting him like they should have. He’s Randy The Natural Couture. Give the man what he wants. Randy along with several other fighters built the UFC and made it what it is today. Randy and Chuck being the top 2. Randy, who brings in just as much money to the UFC as anyone, makes $250k for his title defenses. Meanwhile, Fedor who has never fought in the UFC so therefore he has never made a penny for the UFC, was offered over $2 million, guaranteed. And rightfully so , Randy said that he wouldnt fight unless he got paid the same, or MORE since he is the champ. This is not a money issue. Randy has money. It is a RESPECT issue!

I want to know the details about Randy’s contract. Most people think that after 9 months, the contract is over with. Hoever, Dana seems to think that he has Randy by the balls and that Randy can’t fight in a sanctioned fight until he fulfills his 2 fights left on his contract with the UFC.

Honestly, if Dana was ’such good friends’ with Randy, and all Randy wanted to do was go fight 1 last fight with Fedor in M-1 and get paid millions, Dana should let him.[/quote]

right on , right on, it is a respect issue, and randy is not willing roll over and play “good dog fido” in the biggest UFC fight ever, he should at least get 50/50 to fight Fedor.

That would make sense they had that in the contract. Randy doesn’t have to fight anymore, he could make better long term money leaving at this pinacle of his career, selling his products, opens gyms, motivational speaker, etc… He’s a sharp guy, if he doesn’t make it in the movie business there’s tons he could do, he wouldn’t even miss that next $250k for the next 2 fights.

THE UFC has been pulling out their trouser pockets inside out and shaking open there empty wallets telling their fighters, “there’s no more $$$”… that might have been true at one time…. but it is evident now, (2mill Fedor).. something is terribly wrong. Randy feels disrespect and sees the writing on the wall, so he’s excersing his options and pursuing other things that make him more much more long term $$$ than the next $250k for the next 2 fights.

Dana use to be on the fighters side, negotiating contracts, but he’s a shark now on the side of managment, he’s doing his job, but in this fast growing sport he needs to finally start spreading the $$$$. They won’t do that until top fighters start holding out, unionize or boycott until salaries improve.

[quote comment="175074"][quote post="3572"]Honestly, if Dana was ’such good friends’ with Randy, and all Randy wanted to do was go fight 1 last fight with Fedor in M-1 and get paid millions, Dana should let him.[/quote]

i don’t know dude, why would dana white want to let one of the biggest fights in mma history be fought in another organization? he has couture under contract, he’s a business man, that would make no sense for his company…

After the smoke cleared, Randy probably looked at the situation and said “Wait a minute, I’m getting the fucking shaft!” Because now he IS considered the #1 heavyweight in the UFC and he isn’t getting paid shit. But consider what he was when he first signed that contract. He was a question mark to the UFC.

Its unfortunate that it worked out that way, and I can’t blame Randy for leaving over it. But I also cannot completely blame the UFC for paying him what he was.

The only fucked up thing was paying Fedor 2 mil to fight Randy, that was a slap in the face.[/quote]

Well done ragnarr that’s a good point made there. I have a lot of respect for Randy – who has been my favourite fighter since I started watching this sport back in 2002 and I also have a lot of respect for Dana; who without him none of us would be pissing and moaning about this in the first place!

[quote comment="175815"]Although it is sad that Randy Couture is resigning, at least we still got fighters like BJ PENN. There are many new fighters who are up and coming. Don’t get me wrong, I love watching Randy fight and believe he was treated unfairly by the UFC, but there are a lot more exciting fighters to watch. One in particular being BJ PENN.[/quote]

Just taking a wild guess here… BJ Penn fan?

Why should Randy continue taking a beating at his age if he can make decent money elsewhere without the injuries. He needs to think of himself and his family. The fight with Fedor would have been the dream fight every MMA fan would have wanted and the fight that Randy would have probably retired after win or lose. It would have also been a chance to prove to himself and everyone else that he is the best heavyweight in the world without queston. He did not get the opportunity to do this, so from his point of view why should he stick around, he has nothing else to prove, he’s done it all already. Some MMA fans are seriously selfish, MMA fans owe him more than he owes them. Good luck to him. I will miss Randy but I will still enjoy watching MMA. Bring in Mark Hunt, Barnett, Lindland. Bring back Paul Buentello as well.

It is about the sport not the money grow up !!

[quote comment="175091"]So Dana puts Foot in Mouth again and now insults the Russian.

Who has Fedor Beaten?
Antonio Nogueira
Cro Cop
Mark Hunt
Mark Coleman
Came back after a DEVESTATING SLAM from Randleman
Babalu
Heath Herring

That seems like a pretty decent resume to me?[/quote]
Come on none of these guys have done anything in the octagon other than Randleman who was the heavyweight champ but even he’s been beaten by Randy and Chuck and has lost 7 of his last 9 fights so i wouldn’t consider that to be a great win. Babalu isn’t even a heavyweight. CroCop isn’t even a heavyweight and Nogueira still hasn’t proved himself in the octagon after a poor perfromance against Heath Herring in his first fight. I’m not saying Fedor isn’t the best in the world cause he might be but until he steps in the octagon with some of the top UFC guys (Couture, Arlovski, Vera)I don’t think you can say he’s anymore than an undefeated college football team in a week conference who thinks they should be ranked the same as a team in a good conference playing top opponets.

The growth of the UFC into mainstream media will be the UFC biggest asset and down fall. Dana White stupid remark of him bitch slapping Randy’s movie agent is childish and immature and the public and fighters will all be against Dana, I see the UFC going down like Death Row Records.

[quote comment="175248"]THOSE OF YOU WHO KEEP CONSISTANTLY SAYING THAT RANDY IS THE BEST – ON TOP…WHATEVA…YOUR BIG TIME WRONG – HE HAD HIS HANCE TO AVENGE HIS LOSS TO THE ICEMAN, BUT HE WAS NOT GOOD ENOUGH – LIDDELL IS BETTER THAN RANDY AT ALL MMA ASPECTS – HE PROVED IT – TWICE! RANDY HAS NOT RETIRED ON TOP – FACT[/quote]

if they fight today no way chuck gonna win against randy..

YOU PEOPLE ARE SO STUPID !!! RANDY IS DEF NOT NUMBER 1 !!!
RANDY DOES NOT DESERVE TO FIGHT FEDOR, FEDOR WILL MAKE HIM LOOK SILLYY

RANDY HAS BEATEN TIM”GOOFY”SYLVIA AND GONZAGA. cOME ON THOSE TWO SHOULD NOT BE RANKED AT ALL.

AND IF GONZAGAS NOSE WOULDNT OF BEEN BROKEN HE WOULD PROLLY FINSHED RANDY. RANDY GOT LUCKY !!

AAND DONT GIVE ME THAT SHIT ABOUT CRO COP AND GONZAGA CAUSE CRO COP GOT CAUGHT AND DONT EVEN COMPARE CRO COP TO PRIDE’S CROP COP.

RANDY US A PUSSY HE SHOULDNT RETIRE BECAUSE HE CANT FIGHT THE BEST WELL , HE IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR FEDOR, IF RANDY WAS NUMBER 1 HE SHOULD FIGHT NOG AND THAN WE CAN TALK FROM THERE.

NOG OVER RANDY 1 ST ROUND SUBMISSION

[quote comment="175815"]Although it is sad that Randy Couture is resigning, at least we still got fighters like BJ PENN. There are many new fighters who are up and coming. Don’t get me wrong, I love watching Randy fight and believe he was treated unfairly by the UFC, but there are a lot more exciting fighters to watch. One in particular being BJ PENN.[/quote]

Word.

BJ is the man.

we need a tourney like pride used to do (gran prix)winner of tourney wins title thats ultimate fighting at its best then we know the best man is champ latting dana decide who,s contender reminds me of of VINCE MCMAHAHON UFC IS GOING TO MAINSTREAM