The winner should face Houston Alexander.

Last 4 went to decision. Jardine just suprised everyone and outlasted Liddell (something I haven’t seen since Horn took him to RD 4) What makes Machida think he can beat Jardine decisively. I’ll admit Machida’s last bout was a little more exciting than usual, but come on.

FIRST POST!! YEHAWWW

he’s winning but need also to be exciting, i notice when he beat nakamura he’s not that happy,i mean he’s glad he won but looks very disapointed. that salso the problem with rashad evans in his early bouts,but proved everyone that he can finish a fight, this man also need make a big statement in his next his bouts. i hope he will

I just got done reading this.

Lyoto would win this match-up.

He is a great counter-striker, and he would expose the holes of Keith Jardine that Chuck Liddell did not.

Lyoto is a very incredible fighter, he just is not pushed hard enough because of his lack of ending fights.

Some good news just in.

Ben Rothwell and Mike Whitehead (two of the biggest IFL starts) have not signed contract renewals and are free agents.

Now only if UFC would sign Rothwell.

IFL is toast now.

Machida will own Jardine. Keith is still over-rated. I don’t care if he beat Chuck…. I think Chuck beat himself and could have easily won the fight had he taken Keith down.

Even though Lyoto seems boring to some, he is a elite fighter. He will give anyone in the LHW division a run for their money.

just had a phone call from my pal.hes an insomniac he said ive been up for 4 days.i sent him the best of lyoto machida.he soon went off.this guys probably the most unmarketable lhw there is.he needs to ko a big name just to get in the title picture believe me.

OH CMON UFC MANIA!! You have got to post that Keith Jardine look alike video! I was dying laughing!

[quote comment=”171921″]OH CMON UFC MANIA!! You have got to post that Keith Jardine look alike video! I was dying laughing![/quote]

The Techno Viking..lol

YUP..you know exactly what im talking about!!! Its on ebaumsworld. One kid put..”what was in that water??” LMAO!!

Personally, what makes a fighter exciting is HOW he fights not whether or not he finishes. Probably my being so intimately familiar with the Arts has alot to do with why seeing a KO is not as important to me as it is to others.

Nevertheless, win or lose, Machida is a tough fight for ANY LHW, bar none.

[quote comment=”171887″]The winner should face Houston Alexander.[/quote]

I agree.

This would be a good fight for Jardine.
But unlike most ppl. I like Machida. I think he is top10 Lhw.
so maybe if(they fight) Machida win’s, it will put the Jardine/Houston rematch on hold.

[quote post=”3549″]FIRST POST!! YEHAWWW [/quote]

LIER!!!!!!!!! You were the 2nd post.

this dood’s cool to watch fight - id like to see him against Vitor Belfort - would be a propa brawl !!

with all this talk of Houston Alexander - id like him too to fight Vitor - id bet he’d get his ass crushed

Some of these fighters that come over from other organizations think that they can just name the fights they want. I think it’s horse shit. Make them work there way up just like everybody else in the UFC. I dont think somebody should be able to come in and step in front of the guys that have been working there asses off to be be #1 contender.

Besides, with the exception of Rampage most of these “Pride” fighters have been getting worked anyways.

[quote post=”3549″]Some good news just in.
Ben Rothwell and Mike Whitehead (two of the biggest IFL starts) have not signed contract renewals and are free agents.
Now only if UFC would sign Rothwell. [/quote]

I could care less about Mike “The Pimple” Whitehead. Season 2 of TUF, everyone was raving about how great his is, and he sucked monkey balls in his fight. He has done nothing but lose when he fought in the UFC - not 1 win.

On the otherhand, Ben Rothwell destroyed the IFL HW division. But of course, the IFL HW division is nothing like the UFC HW division. Ben is on a 13 fight win streak, most recently beating Ricco Rodriguez. Rothwell is the only HW in IFL that looks to be ready for the UFC right now. And Chris Horodecki I am really looking forward to fighting in the UFC. But he is still sooooooooo young that he has a few years before stepping up.

I would really be rooting for Jardine to give boring ol’ Machida his first loss. That way everyone can stop bringing his name up when discussing LHW title contenders.

[quote comment=”171934″][quote comment=”171921″]OH CMON UFC MANIA!! You have got to post that Keith Jardine look alike video! I was dying laughing![/quote]

The Techno Viking..lol[/quote]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1nzEFMjkI4

[quote comment=”171940″][quote post=”3549″]FIRST POST!! YEHAWWW [/quote]

LIER!!!!!!!!! You were the 2nd post.[/quote]

lol…

[quote comment=”171940″][quote post=”3549″]FIRST POST!! YEHAWWW [/quote]

LIER!!!!!!!!! You were the 2nd post.[/quote]

Man, when I was writing it I was the first, but PhilQNY had to up me one with his quick little one liner comment. Thank for making me look stupid agin Phil. Appreciate it! Skip Jardine Machida, let’s see Houston Machida!

[quote post=”3549″]He is a great counter-striker, and he would expose the holes of Keith Jardine that Chuck Liddell did not.[/quote]
Is this to suggest that Chuck Liddell is not a great counter-striker??? He’s made his entire career off drawing people in and counter-punching. [quote post=”3549″]Machida will own Jardine. Keith is still over-rated. I don’t care if he beat Chuck…. I think Chuck beat himself and could have easily won the fight had he taken Keith down. [/quote]

When exactly have you ever seen Chuck take anyone down?

[quote comment=”171952″][quote comment=”171940″][quote post=”3549″]FIRST POST!! YEHAWWW [/quote]

LIER!!!!!!!!! You were the 2nd post.[/quote]

Man, when I was writing it I was the first, but PhilQNY had to up me one with his quick little one liner comment. Thank for making me look stupid agin Phil. Appreciate it! Skip Jardine Machida, let’s see Houston Machida![/quote]

funny to me is that one line..sat in the message box for a minute or so..before I clicked submit…but hey 1st..2nd..57th..same ish..you speak your peace.

Off topic but does anyone know what happened to Joachim Hansen? He’s a great lightweight fighter who signed with the ufc a long time ago but has not yet been given a fight. anyone know why?

[quote comment=”171956″]Off topic but does anyone know what happened to Joachim Hansen? He’s a great lightweight fighter who signed with the ufc a long time ago but has not yet been given a fight. anyone know why?[/quote]

..I don’t know about Hansen..but believe it or not..some UFC contracts have no time limits on fights..and a fighter may not be able to fight anywhere else until the contract is fulfilled.

[quote post=”3549″]funny to me is that one line..sat in the message box for a minute or so..before I clicked submit…but hey 1st..2nd..57th..same ish..you speak your peace.[/quote]

Well man I had to look up Machida’s stats real quick. Doin some research for the post. Anyhow - it feels great to be 2nd. 2nd place wonders: Ortiz to Liddell, Liddell to Jackson, Couture to Liddell, Sobral to Liddell, Trigg to Hughes, Shamrock to Ortiz, the list goes on an on.

He should finish a fight or two before he gets to play with the big boys, he should be the one fighting either rashad or bisping.

The techno viking Keith jardine look alike = funniest thing I’ve seen since StarWarsKid!

that technoviking video is so funny haha. he really looks like keith jardine haha.

why does it matter if he finishes a fight? he wins and hes undefeated

[quote comment=”171889″]FIRST POST!! YEHAWWW[/quote]

Don’t be a douche…

i see this guy being # 2 contender for the next 5 years… he will never get the belt but will always be knocking on the door for a title shot

[quote comment=”171887″]The winner should face Houston Alexander.[/quote]
first Get of the Houston Alexander bs hes not a top fight it would be a step down, the winner should fight for a title. This would be a smart fight for Machida, especially if he finished this fight, he would win a lot of fans over, for some reason no one likes Jardine, he talented but has little fans, i think it would be an exciting fight i give it to Machida though, he would try to be aggressive and if he felt he was in any trouble he would go back to the counter point scoring thing hes got going on.

really good fight, may have number 1 contender status on it for next in line for the belt. machida is a boring fighter jardine comes with a game plan like he did with lidell he will win the fight. it might go the distance again but i am looking forward to the match up. my money is the fight will happen in jan or the feb supercard. but still someone has to fight rampage by april at least. has to be forrest or wanderlay if he does and beats lidell in dec

[quote comment=”172012″]really good fight, may have number 1 contender status on it for next in line for the belt. machida is a boring fighter jardine comes with a game plan like he did with lidell he will win the fight. it might go the distance again but i am looking forward to the match up. my money is the fight will happen in jan or the feb supercard. but still someone has to fight rampage by april at least. has to be forrest or wanderlay if he does and beats lidell in dec[/quote]

Machida is not boring no one appreciates the his skill,

[quote comment=”171948″][quote post=”3549″]Some good news just in.
Ben Rothwell and Mike Whitehead (two of the biggest IFL starts) have not signed contract renewals and are free agents.
Now only if UFC would sign Rothwell. [/quote]

I could care less about Mike “The Pimple” Whitehead. Season 2 of TUF, everyone was raving about how great his is, and he sucked monkey balls in his fight. He has done nothing but lose when he fought in the UFC - not 1 win.

On the otherhand, Ben Rothwell destroyed the IFL HW division. But of course, the IFL HW division is nothing like the UFC HW division. Ben is on a 13 fight win streak, most recently beating Ricco Rodriguez. Rothwell is the only HW in IFL that looks to be ready for the UFC right now. And Chris Horodecki I am really looking forward to fighting in the UFC. But he is still sooooooooo young that he has a few years before stepping up.[/quote]
Man… you guys are killing me. “the pimple” LMAO… and the techno viking …. now I want them to fight…Jardine walks to the ring dancing… while trying to squeeze Whitehead…

[quote comment=”171954″][quote post=”3549″]He is a great counter-striker, and he would expose the holes of Keith Jardine that Chuck Liddell did not.[/quote]
Is this to suggest that Chuck Liddell is not a great counter-striker??? He’s made his entire career off drawing people in and counter-punching. [quote post=”3549″]Machida will own Jardine. Keith is still over-rated. I don’t care if he beat Chuck…. I think Chuck beat himself and could have easily won the fight had he taken Keith down. [/quote]

When exactly have you ever seen Chuck take anyone down?[/quote]

he tried before,against alistar overeem,when he got rocked with a punch & try to recover,he holds overeem’s leg then take him down,but not really as strategy of offense, he just did that to recover,then he stood up when he felt he recovered.

but chuck trying to take anyone down as part of strategy to win a fight,i think he never did

[quote comment=”171910″]Machida will own Jardine. Keith is still over-rated. I don’t care if he beat Chuck…. I think Chuck beat himself and could have easily won the fight had he taken Keith down.

Even though Lyoto seems boring to some, he is a elite fighter. He will give anyone in the LHW division a run for their money.[/quote]
Lol, when was the last time Chuck took someone down?

[quote comment=”172037″][quote comment=”171954″][quote post=”3549″]He is a great counter-striker, and he would expose the holes of Keith Jardine that Chuck Liddell did not.[/quote]
Is this to suggest that Chuck Liddell is not a great counter-striker??? He’s made his entire career off drawing people in and counter-punching. [quote post=”3549″]Machida will own Jardine. Keith is still over-rated. I don’t care if he beat Chuck…. I think Chuck beat himself and could have easily won the fight had he taken Keith down. [/quote]

When exactly have you ever seen Chuck take anyone down?[/quote]

he tried before,against alistar overeem,when he got rocked with a punch & try to recover,he holds overeem’s leg then take him down,but not really as strategy of offense, he just did that to recover,then he stood up when he felt he recovered.

but chuck trying to take anyone down as part of strategy to win a fight,i think he never did[/quote]
Sorry I should have read this before posting :p

[quote post=”3549″]I could care less about Mike “The Pimple” Whitehead. Season 2 of TUF, everyone was raving about how great his is, and he sucked monkey balls in his fight. He has done nothing but lose when he fought in the UFC - not 1 win.
On the otherhand, Ben Rothwell destroyed the IFL HW division. But of course, the IFL HW division is nothing like the UFC HW division. Ben is on a 13 fight win streak, most recently beating Ricco Rodriguez. Rothwell is the only HW in IFL that looks to be ready for the UFC right now. And Chris Horodecki I am really looking forward to fighting in the UFC. But he is still sooooooooo young that he has a few years before stepping up.[/quote]

[quote post=”3549″]Man… you guys are killing me. “the pimple” LMAO… and the techno viking …. now I want them to fight…Jardine walks to the ring dancing… while trying to squeeze Whitehead… [/quote]

I actually think that Machida should fight Mike “The Pimple” Whitehead. That way he would have a great chance at finishing his first fight in the UFC. He should finish Whitehead by a standing guillatine choke and keep squeezing until he pops that Whitehead Pimple and sprays the etire first 14 rows with white puss. It would be like an old school Gallagher show! Wait, is that a snake on the canvas? Nope, its just the big, long, white tail that ejaculated out of the top of Whitehead’s head.

[quote comment=”171949″]I would really be rooting for Jardine to give boring ol’ Machida his first loss. That way everyone can stop bringing his name up when discussing LHW title contenders.[/quote]

He’s only boring to those of you who still don’t see this as a sport of skill and just want to see people beat the shi*t out of each other. Machida has more skill than anyone out there right now. He is a complete fighter and like someone said earlier, he just needs to get his first knockout in the UFC to break the ice on his popularity.

Also, he is one of only two men to knock out Rich Frankline, so I dont get why you all think he can’t finish. He is just having a bad run (even though he is still winning.)

Everyone complains that Machida never finishes, but when has any other fighter even come close to finishing Machida? I’ve never seen him in any real danger.

So why doesn’t anyone complain about Machida’s opponents? Yes, he’s a conservative fighter, but he makes good fighters look bad. I want to see if he can do that to the top tier guys, and Jardine is a good start.

maybe lets say machida is in bad run right now,true mma fans knows how good machida is,he’s one of the best technical fighter out there that only takes very few damage in any fight,maybe its conincident that for him not be able finishing the fights is happen in his early ufc career,but later on we will see this guy finishing lots of his opponent for sure, remember even chuck liddell known as the one of the greatest knockout artist was also went throught 3 straight fight that went to decision before (UFC 33,35,37)

I would go for lyota in this fight,
although I’m not sure how it would end or if the winner should get a title shot maybe if it ends in a KO for either fighter anything in the judges hands no title shot.
After all there is still Forrest
if chuck is fighting wandy
and rashad is fighting bisping
henderson wants to move down
shogun out for now
and houston maybe just not enough fights
what does Forrest do?
fight the winner out of machida and jardine then a titleshot but then what does jackson do in the meantime?
thoughts on LHW division

[quote comment=”172136″]maybe lets say machida is in bad run right now,true mma fans knows how good machida is,he’s one of the best technical fighter out there that only takes very few damage in any fight,maybe its conincident that for him not be able finishing the fights is happen in his early ufc career,but later on we will see this guy finishing lots of his opponent for sure, remember even chuck liddell known as the one of the greatest knockout artist was also went throught 3 straight fight that went to decision before (UFC 33,35,37)[/quote]

I agree Machida is one of the best, i think his fights are exciting very technical, he can finish fights and he will

just incase henderson will move down to 185,can he easily own anderson silva?

[quote comment=”172157″]just incase henderson will move down to 185,can he easily own anderson silva?[/quote]
It would be a hell of a fight

Keith Jardine has a very unorthodox, awkward fighting style. Forget about watching him from the stands or from your couch - put Keith Jardine in front
of you, as an opponent, and you’ll see how easily he confuses your defense/offense. He’s perfected strikes from very weird angles and his leg kicks are devastating. His hurky-jurky style, or “the Chimpanzee approach”, as Joe Rogan cals it, is very distracting for his opponent.

I don’t think Machida would walk over Jardine. Houston Alexander beat Jardine
by getting on the inside and ending Jardine with uppercuts. Machida, for all intents and purposes, fights from the outside. His counter-punch method
will have to be lightning-quick just to answer Jardine’s awkward strikes. Machida’s best chance is taking Jardine to the ground and BJJ’ing him somehow.

Machida vs Jardine would be an excellent fight.

[quote post=”3549″]with all this talk of Houston Alexander - id like him too to fight Vitor - id bet he’d get his ass crushed[/quote]

It depends what kind of mental state Vitor has. The guy had so much talent, but never put it to full use.

[quote post=”3549″]He’s only boring to those of you who still don’t see this as a sport of skill and just want to see people beat the shi*t out of each other. Machida has more skill than anyone out there right now. He is a complete fighter and like someone said earlier, he just needs to get his first knockout in the UFC to break the ice on his popularity.
Also, he is one of only two men to knock out Rich Frankline, so I dont get why you all think he can’t finish. He is just having a bad run (even though he is still winning.) [/quote]

Machida has a boring style and he does NOT finish fights. That is hard to argue. The same can be said for Sean Sherk for the most part. However, he to, is EXTREMELY technical. Also, it’s not like Machida has ever been known as a finisher. He has 11 pro mma fights. He has 2 TKO’s, 1 submission and 1 win by a cut. That makes 7 decisions.

When it comes to the ‘technical’ aspects of mma, my favorite is the scrambles. Then you have two talented fighters in there, its amazing. For example, Nich Diaz vs Diego Sanchez. They both showed trememdous technique and was close to fight of the year. Machida will NEVER be in a fight of the year, fight of the night, or even fight of the hour. Its not his style.

Laughing at all these Machida haters… If you want to cry about boring fighters, people who don’t go for the finish, this is not your guy. Sean Sherk, Matt Hughes, Jon Fitch, all lay n prayed their way through their last fights and those guys are top of the food chain yet Machida beats a guy around for 15 minutes and you cry about that? I don’t get you guys, or actually I get what you’re saying just not why you’re saying it. Houston Alexander gets the winner of these two? You’ve got to be kidding, right? I don’t know why Machida wants to beat Keith- all the hype is going to Forrest Griffin, Machida should kick him around like he would have if Griffin hadn’t gotten a staph infection. Machida deserves Griffin. He deserved to fight Shogun over Forrest and by the looks of Shogun in that performance, Machida very likely would have won.

i think there are other more exciting match ups out there for machida and for jardine…i think a fight between those two would be a very close fight, but not really too exciting for the fans…

Last time I checked, I still had the right to like and dislike fighters, hence either be a fan of a fighter, or not be a fan of a fighter. I, for one, am not a fan of Machida. Does that mean I don’t think he’s talented, of course not, that would be stupid, Machida is crazy talented.

I saw his fight against Franklin, I saw his fight with Penn, then he signed with the UFC. I was sooooo excited. His first fight ended up being so boring that it went from being televised, to them showing a prelim fight in its place. The fight can be Machida vs __________ (fill in the blank) and I still won’t be excited. On the other hand, there’s fighters like Clay Guida, Tyson Griffin, GSP, Forrest Griffin where it doesn’t matter who their fighting - you know you’re going to see an exciting fight (excluding Forrest vs Hector Ramirez). Actually, I don’t know why I included Forrest in that group, but still…

And by the way Mania, this picture of Machida is the largest image I’ve ever seen here. Not only that, but its a close up of his face as well. I keep thinking there’s someone standing over my shoulder and he’s staring right at him. lol

[quote comment=”171887″]The winner should face Houston Alexander.[/quote]

Houston will most likely annihilate Thiago Silva and i agree with you, Houston faces winner. We’ll see.

You would really need to put Jardine on his back to really have a decent chance of taking him out, on his feet he will give anyone trouble I don’t care who you are. Jardine is underrated, I knew he would beat Chuck and went for the upset. I didn’t even consider the Houston fight as Jardine made a mistake by underestimating him. What I did note from the fight was the punch he knocked Houston down with and the amount of uppercuts he ate before he went down. He destroyed Forrest, and the technical skill and heart he showed in the Stephan Bonner fight (which he won) was something else these fights made me really rate him as a striker. Chuck is an excellent counter puncher and one of my favourite fighters, but seriously when is the last time he fought a decent striker, yeh Rampage and he lost. Randy, Tito, Babalu, Jeremy Horn, none of these guys are pure strikers and Chuck really had not fought a decent one in ages, he was never going to be able to beat Jardine the way he beat them, his unothordox style and striking skills were always going to be to good. Jardine would beat Forrest again if they fought. He would definately have a harder time fighting Tito than Chuck becuase of Titos fighting style. Jardine and Machida would be a great fight to watch. Two completely different striking styles and techniques. On the ground Machida, but standing I would think it would be pretty even. Jardines leg kicks could be the deciding factor though and whoever is able to take a better punch.

[quote comment=”172053″][quote comment=”171910″]Machida will own Jardine. Keith is still over-rated. I don’t care if he beat Chuck…. I think Chuck beat himself and could have easily won the fight had he taken Keith down.

Even though Lyoto seems boring to some, he is a elite fighter. He will give anyone in the LHW division a run for their money.[/quote]
Lol, when was the last time Chuck took someone down?[/quote]

I thought that comment was funny as well… in the past anytime Chuck goes to the ground for long, he gases and his standup game quickly diminishes. That’s why he didn’t take Jardine down… he uses his wrestling skills to defend the takedown and keep it on the feet, where he can go a few rounds and outstrike his opponents.

Keith just happened to weather the 1st round storm and keep up the pace (landed plenty of power shots) and Chuck eventually got tired (lost his speed and knockout power). Jardine pulled out a risky, gritty gameplan and leg kicked his way to a decision.

Machida is 1 fighter that leaves me with a gray area, I’m not really sure how good this guy is… we’ll see soon.

[quote comment=”172109″]Everyone complains that Machida never finishes, but when has any other fighter even come close to finishing Machida? I’ve never seen him in any real danger.

So why doesn’t anyone complain about Machida’s opponents? Yes, he’s a conservative fighter, but he makes good fighters look bad. I want to see if he can do that to the top tier guys, and Jardine is a good start.[/quote]
Heeyy, good point. I agree.

[quote comment=”171910″]Machida will own Jardine. Keith is still over-rated. I don’t care if he beat Chuck…. I think Chuck beat himself and could have easily won the fight had he taken Keith down.

Even though Lyoto seems boring to some, he is a elite fighter. He will give anyone in the LHW division a run for their money.[/quote
he aint over rated at all man , keith ” the dean of mean ” jardine is going to be champ some day you wait and see, im thinking in the next year, i predict that ufc 82 will be his title fight win .

[quote comment=”171949″]I would really be rooting for Jardine to give boring ol’ Machida his first loss. That way everyone can stop bringing his name up when discussing LHW title contenders.[/quote]

AYMEN! Preach on brother!!! Machida has 3 wins in a row… so the hell what, Fitch has like 7 wins in a row against the same quality competition (if not better) that Machida has faced, and Fitch finished almost all of them, and he is still around 3rd in line for a title shot… So Machida cant be close to a shot at the LHW title.

I hope Jardine destroys him, if it even happens! Im Normally not a big Jardine fan, but I am dying for someone to beat the crap out of the overrated Kim’s Karate fighter (Machida), who’s own father even admits that his son cant finish a damn fight! Can you picture Machida the light heavyweight champion of the world./… What a joke!!!!!!

Machida fans……. Get a freaking clue

Thank you John, you were actually the first to completely agree with me here.

[quote comment=”173500″]Thank you John, you were actually the first to completely agree with me here.[/quote]

I got ya back Brada! which is BJ Penn talk for Brother!

[quote comment=”171950″][quote comment=”171934″][quote comment=”171921″]OH CMON UFC MANIA!! You have got to post that Keith Jardine look alike video! I was dying laughing![/quote]

The Techno Viking..lol[/quote]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1nzEFMjkI4/quote
Im laughing 3 days later at that Jardine viking guy. goodstuff.