UFC 77: “Hostile Territory” is set for tonight, October 20, at 10 p.m. ET on pay-per-view (PPV) from the U.S. Bank Arena in Cincinnati, Ohio.
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UFC 77 QUICK RESULTS:
Anderson Silva defeats Rich Franklin via TKO (Strikes) Round 2
Tim Sylvia defeats Brandon Vera via Unanimous Decision
Stephan Bonnar defeats Eric Schafer via TKO (Strikes)
Alan Belcher defeats Kalib Starnes via TKO (Doctor Stoppage due to cut)
Alvin Robinson defeats Jorge Gurgel via Unanimous Decision
Yushin Okami defeats Jason MacDonald via Unanimous Decision
Demian Maia defeats Ryan Jensen via Rear Naked Choke in Round 1
Josh Burkman defeats Forrest Petz via Unanimous Decision
Matt Grice defeats Jason Black via Split Decision
UFC 77 BLOW-BY-BLOW LIVE MAIN CARD COMMENTARY: Hola Maniacs the time is here for Hostile Territory this should be a great night of action. Can Franklin overcome his last devastating loss vs Silva? Will big Tim Slyvia be able to overcome his back surgery and embarrassing loss to Coture? Will Brandon Vera have any ring rust and can he beat a man with such a size advantage? These are all answers were about to get and im one UFC fan who is pumped up. SO here we go its FIGHT TIME!!!
UFC Middleweight Champion Anderson Silva vs. Rich Franklin (185-pound limit)
Round one: The crowd is going INSANE for Franklin. Franklin looks clear, calm, and confident. Very composed. Franklin is coming out to “Welcome to the Jungle”. Silva as usual looks calm and ready to attack, hes one scary dude. Both fighters looking for distance. Franklin with leg kick. Franklin with a nice right left combo. Silva gets into the clinch. Franklin with the take down. Silva to the feet but Franklin has a single leg. Back to the clinch up against the fence. Silva with a knee and right. Great spinning side kick to the body by Silva. Silva with two stinging rights!!! Back to the clinch. Silva goes for a sweep then lands a sick knee to the head. Great left by Franklin. Silva with a flying knee. SIlva with a sick left hook!!! HUGE right by Silva!!!! Franklin is DROPPED , BUT THE BELL RINGS AND SAVES HIM!!!!! That would have ended the fight if it wasnt for the bell!!
Round two: Leg kick by Franklin. Leg kick by Silva. Huge knee by Silva. Franklin is in trouble, and another knee to the head that drops Franklin!!! Its over folks!!! Silva once again DOMINATES Rich Franklin and it seemed it was only a matter of time before it was over, Franklin is simply outclassed by Silva and is obviously not on his level.
Round three:
Round four:
Round five:
Final Result: Anderson Silva defeats Rich Franklin via TKO (Strikes) in Round 2
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Tim Sylvia vs. Brandon Vera (265-pound limit)
Round one: Sylvia does not look to be much bigger than Vera at all which is surprising. They were pretty much eye to eye. Vera clinches immediately. Nice elbow from Vera. Knees from Vera to the ribs. Sylvia with a nice elbow. Another great elbow from SYlvia. Nice body shot from Tim. Vera with a nice elbow. Clinched up against the fence. Both fighters exchanging knees in the clinch. Sylvia with a flurry. Vera with a nice right and leg kicks. Sylvia with another nice knee. Vera with an uppercut. Nice elbow from Vera. Uppercut from Vera. Sylvia with some knees. Thats the bell. A very uneventful round. The whole round was in the clinch and not much action.
Round two: High kick from Vera followed by a great right hand. Vera looking for a sweep, but both fighters are clinched up against the fence AGAIN. The crowd is booing like crazy. So far this is a boring fight. Vera with some knees to the thigh. Vera with a nice elbow. Sylvia with a nice right. AGain back to the clinch against the fence. Sylvia with an inside elbow. Nice knee from Sylvia. Vera with a sweep and a take down!!! Vera in side control. Vera with some knees to the ribs. Shoulders to the face from Vera. HUGE knee to the head from Vera, Levine gives a warning to Vera. WOW Huge body kick from Vera!!! Followed by another HUGE body kick!!!!! Thats the bell, with the take down and kicks Vera has to get that round 10-9.
Round three: Clinch again. Both fighters exchange rights. Sylvia with two nice rights. Clinched up against the fence again. Foot stomps by Vera. Again clinched up against the fence. Only 3 minutes left. Tim with a nice right left combo. Vera with a jab a nice overhand right. Vera with a great leg kick. Sylvia with a nice elbow and has cut Vera. Vera bleeding badly. Clinched against the fence again. Sylvia is raining punches at Vera to close the fight. That round has to go to Sylvia and so does the fight I think. Overall a terribly boring fight. I think this one should prove Vera NEEDS to drop to 205. Vera also states “I broke my hand” as soon as he goes to the corner.
Final Result: Tim Sylvia defeats Brandon Vera via Unanimous Decision
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Stephan Bonnar vs. Eric Schafer (205-pound limit)
Round one: Bonnar with a nice right. Then throws a jab followed by a right. Schafer shoots but cant get the take down and now their both clinched up. Both fighters exchanging knees. Schaffer with a nice right. Bonnar working his jab for distance. Schaffer with two good leg kicks. Schaffer pulls guard. Bonnar looking to posture up and now hes dropping elbows. A great left by Bonnar. Back to the feet both fighters are clinched. Schaffer goes for the take down and gets it. Schaffer has the back now. He has one hook in. Schaffer trying to soften him up with punches. Shcaffer looking to lock in the choke. He looses one of his hooks and Bonnar survives for now. Bonnar turns and is back on top. Thats the round, great submission defense by Bonnar. That round could have gone either way.
Round two: Shcaffer pulls guard again. Bonnar on top. Bonnar with 2 HUGE rights! Now Bonnar is raining punches down. Hammer fists from Bonnar. Short tight elbows by Bonnar from the top. Bonnar stuck in half guard looking to pass. Bonnar raining some more punches. Bonna lands two bombs!!! Schaffer is hurt!!! Bonnar looking to finish it!! Thats it! Its over Big John stops it and Bonnar comes away with an impressive win.
Round three:
Final Result: Stephan Bonnar defeats Eric Schaffer via TKO (strikes) in Round 2
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Kalib Starnes vs. Alan Belcher (185-pound limit)
Round one: Starnes goes for the clinch and now Belcher uses a knee and right cross. Both fighters clinched up against the fence. Belcher working knees to the thigh. Kalib with a nice take down but Belcher right back to his feet. Starnes is bleeding on his forehead. Belcher working some nice elbows from the clinch now. Starnes with two nice left hands. Belcher with a flying knee from the clinc and a HUGE elbow. Great leg kick from Belcher and Starnes answers with a fantastic combo landing twoo solid rights in the process. Starnes with two more great rights. Belcher with a HUGE uppercut! Followed by another flying knee!! Starnes is gushing blood from his face!! Both fighters clinched again and Kalib lands two good lefts. Belcher with another nice uppercut and a huge knee. Starnes with a shot but Belcher sprawls out. Leg kick by Belcher and they are extremely powerful. Head kick from Belcher. Starnes with a right to close out the round.
Round two: Starnes has a Marvin Eastman type gash over his right eye. Its a brutal cut. Kalib with a nice right. Belcher answers with a one two combo. Vicious leg kick by Belcher. STarnes lands two great shots and Belcher drops his hands and smiles not a smart move. Belcher is putting on a Mui Thay clinic right now. Ref stops the fight to check the horrible gash on Starnes head. Thats it its over the Doctor stops it due to one of the most vicious cuts ive seen in awhile. You can see his skull through his cut thats how bad it is.
Round three:
Final Result: Alan Belcher defeats Kalib Starnes via TKO (Doctors stoppage due to cut)
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Jorge Gurgel vs. Alvin Robinson (155-pound limit)
Round one: Robinson with a nice right then a scramble. Gurgel ends up on top. Robinson has full guard. Robinson with some nice hammer fists from the bottom. Gurgel with an elbow. Another scramble and Gurgel passes into a side mount. North South control for Gurgel then back to side control. Not much happening other than jockeying for position. Robinson back to full guard. Nice hammer fists by Robinson, but Gurgel back to side control. Gurgel with full mount but he looses it right away and back to side control. Gurgel with a great full mount, but the bell rings before he can use it. Gurgel won that round 10-9 he dominated the ground game the entire round.
Round two: Leg kick by Robinson followed by a nice left. RObinson shoots and with the take down. Gurgel goes for an armbar and Robinson scrambles now Robinson has the back of Gurgel. Gurgel reverses and is now in Robinsons full guard. Gurgel looking to pass. Hes working persistently looking for a mount.Robinson looking for a Omaplata and uses it to reverse positions. Now Robinson is on top in Gurgels full guard, Gurgel looking for an armbar. Robinson raining down some punches. Working some nice hammer fists. Gurgel is cut now. Robinson dropping BOMBS now!!! Gurgel goes for another armbar but its unsuccessful. Robinson doing some major damage from the top, and Gurgels face is bloodied and battered. Robinson gets that round 10-9, and I have to wonder if Gurgel can recover he took some serious damage to his face in that round and then he proceeded to walk to the wrong corner.
Round three: Gurgel is cut on his nose and eye. Robinson with a HUGE take down. Gurgel has full guard. But Robinson is posturing beautifully and dropping some serious punches. Gurgel going for another armbar. Robinson stifles it with some vicious hammer fists. Robinson still dropping bombs and doing some real damage to Gurgels face. Nice elbow from Robinson. Gurgel is breathing heavy and he looks out of gas. Robinson is really dishing out a beating now and just keeps landing unanswered punch after unanswered punch. Robinson passes and has his back now!!! Robinson raining some more bombs on Gurgels face. Thats the bell. Robinson completely dominated the last two rounds and did some serious damage to Gurgels face. Gurgel wobbles to his corner after this fight and I think its obvious Robinson won that fight.
Final Result: Alvin Robinson defeats Jorge Gurgel via Unanimous Decision
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309 Comments »
Why would the belcher fight be above Okami-McDonald? The winner of that fight will probably have the next title fight.
macdonald and okami should TOTALLY be broadcast…i hope the ufc guys smarten up and show that…it’s a great match up and totally reflects the future of the 185 pounders…
besides that, i hope vera mops the floor with sylvia!
stacked
[quote comment=”163958″]macdonald and okami should TOTALLY be broadcast…i hope the ufc guys smarten up and show that…it’s a great match up and totally reflects the future of the 185 pounders…
besides that, i hope vera mops the floor with sylvia![/quote]
Neither Okami or Macdonald is anywhere near Sylva or Franklin. We need some 185 pounders bad.
Why couldn’t they give us northeast folk something like this for 78?
I feel sorry for Franklin for having to do this fight. I’m sure he’s gotta do it because it is in his contract or something. Gosh, it’s gonna be UGLY!!!
Silva - TKO 1st
Silvia/Ver - Double DQ ( they will both enter the cage covered in butter and commmence to making love to eachother)
bonnar - tko 2nd
belcher/starnes - who cares
okami/macdonald - should be broadcast over belcher/starnes - okami by gnp
Gurgel/robinson - draw
Burkman - unanimous desicion
jensen/maia - don’t care
Grice- knockout first round ( i’m from Oklahoma )
Why the hell isn’t Okami/ MacDonald a guaranteed televised bout? What has Kalib Starnes done to deserve main card status over 2 former title contenders? Beat Chris Leben??? Please…
why the fuck is starnes and blecher on the main card????????
LOL.
that is lame!!!!! i understsnd bonner.. because he is ac rwod favrotie. UFC marketing stucks.
It is really too bad they don’t show the prelim’s. still, the chance to see the Truth back in action makes it all worth it.
Franklin actually looks like he lost a bit of weight for this fight. At least that is the impression I got from the fight’s website. Perhaps a quicker Franklin can avoid the Thai clinch. I wouldn’t put money on it though.
P.S. Okami McDonal will be a boring fight. Dont know why anyone thinks it should be on the main card.
Bonner vs. a tomato can is main card? wtf Belcher vs. Starnes is a solid main card but not better than Macdonald vs. Okami. I’m gonna be pissed if this stays like this! (aren’t ppv card 5 fights min?)
OKAMI-MACDONALD BETTER BE TELEVISED
There’s no minimum for ppv fights. They will give us as few as we are wiling to pay for, so they can charge to watch the pre lims on demand. It seems like there used to be like 6 fights on a UFC ppv card. Eventually it will be 2 crappy fights and one main card ….just like boxing. freakin bastards. I love watching the pre fight hype crap over and over again for an hour while the prelims are going on. Then the 15 min stories behind the fights they play before the main cards, where pre lims could be showing. Then the stupid movie previews they play, where pre lims could be showing.
Who decides what to broadcast? Okami-Macdonald should totally be up there………
what a lame UFC night, boring…..Meh
WTF okami/mcdonald is 3rd best fight on that card and its not be broadcast on ppv
[quote comment=”163991″]Bonner vs. a tomato can is main card? wtf Belcher vs. Starnes is a solid main card but not better than Macdonald vs. Okami. I’m gonna be pissed if this stays like this! (aren’t ppv card 5 fights min?)[/quote]
I reall hope you are not calling Eric Schafer a tomato can. Eric Schafer has some of the best BJJ in that weight class, actually he might have the best BJJ in that division.
I think Okami/MacDonald will be a swing bout that will more than likely be put on TV.
agreed with everyone else, the okami/macdonald fight should be seen on tv for sure. without question over bonnar or belcher and starnes. come on are you kidding me? dummy up a little bit ufc.
So, we’re all in agreement that the MacDonald/Okami fight is a bigger fight than Starnes/Blecher?!?!? Come on UFC!!! This fight has title-shot ramifications and it may not be broadcast. STUPID!!
Sylvia/Vera and Franklin/Silva should be fun to watch. The rest of the card doesn’t do much for me. UFC 78 look pretty weak. Tickets are going on sale this week and they haven’t even named the main event yet. What up?
I think its a mess up, usually there are 5 televised fights on a PPV. This card there is only 4. Okami/ Macdonald fight will no doubt get sorted out.
[quote comment=”163968″]
Neither Okami or Macdonald is anywhere near Sylva or Franklin. We need some 185 pounders bad.[/quote]
Uh, did you see the Okami/Franklin fight? Franklin won, but anyone who saw that fight would never say Okami is not near Franklin.
[quote comment=”164052″]Sylvia/Vera and Franklin/Silva should be fun to watch. The rest of the card doesn’t do much for me. UFC 78 look pretty weak. Tickets are going on sale this week and they haven’t even named the main event yet. What up?[/quote]
Hostile Territory, no? I thought that’s what the name is…
I have to agree that this card doesn’t seem too exciting. There’s definitely some competative matches but this may be the first UFC PPV in a long while that I’m not going to get.
The “Truth” is going to have ring rust and a tough welcome back. Randy will have Sylvia ready for him.
Good luck to Franklin. He’ll need it.
They’ve been putting franklin on some shitty cards lately, i don’t trust that info at all. 3, 3 round fights for the price of one PPV….that’s horse shit
I predict
Silva via TKO (Silva is too good on his feet)
Vera via decision(Sylvia is coming off of a loss and back surgery)
Bonnar via Stoppage
Starnes via decision
Okami via decision
silva is gonna knock franklin out again, and brandon vera better knock out tim silvia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[quote comment=”163990″]Franklin actually looks like he lost a bit of weight for this fight. At least that is the impression I got from the fight’s website. Perhaps a quicker Franklin can avoid the Thai clinch. I wouldn’t put money on it though.
P.S. Okami McDonal will be a boring fight. Dont know why anyone thinks it should be on the main card.[/quote]
Avoid the clinch? He didnt try to avoid the clinch the 1st fight. That was his gameplan. If you think he will get back in there, you are nuts and he would be too. This will be a different fight than the first…totally different.
[quote comment=”164075″][quote comment=”163968″]
Neither Okami or Macdonald is anywhere near Sylva or Franklin. We need some 185 pounders bad.[/quote]
Uh, did you see the Okami/Franklin fight? Franklin won, but anyone who saw that fight would never say Okami is not near Franklin.[/quote]
I agree that Okami is good, but he was awful in the Franklin fight. He wanted zero, ZERO to do with Franklin for 2 rounds and then got Franklin in a bad spot and got the kimura in the 3rd.
[quote comment=”164083″]I predict
Silva via TKO (Silva is too good on his feet)
Vera via decision(Sylvia is coming off of a loss and back surgery)
Bonnar via Stoppage
Starnes via decision
Okami via decision[/quote]
Mine are the same as this guys!
Okami should get a title shot if he wins, and franklin loses.
I have a pre-fight prediction for you guys. Franklin won’t make weight. Any takers?
Hoodlum,
I have a pre-fight prediction for you guys. Franklin won’t make weight. Any takers?
Wellll, unless you know something we don’t I can’t see Franklin not making weight… why do you think that is more my question?
I’ll make a semi-prediction for the SlVA VS FRANKLIN… if Franklin is unrealistic and keeps this fight standing he will get knocked out!… If he’s realistic and fights more like a wrestler/jitsu Fighter, and respects Silva’s standup by taking it to the ground and ground and pound as often as he can, he’ll win by decision (it will be a boring fight though).
Now having said that, if Silva’s takedown defense is good enough and the fight is mostly standup, Silva, by knockout.
As for the rest of the cards I hope Vera Wins! I think he has the edge.
Except for the MacDonald VS Okami fight, this may be a UFC Event I’ll skip for once, something may be better on at the movies.
[quote comment=”164075″][quote comment=”163968″]
Neither Okami or Macdonald is anywhere near Sylva or Franklin. We need some 185 pounders bad.[/quote]
Uh, did you see the Okami/Franklin fight? Franklin won, but anyone who saw that fight would never say Okami is not near Franklin.[/quote]
Okami may be near Franklin but neither one is in Silva’s league. Realistically by the way he has been fighting, who is in his league? I Like Franklin but I feel bad for him cause unless he got alot stronger he is in a whole hell of alot of trouble. I got my money on silva all the way. This fight wont even be close. Vera will more than likely destroy the lame-n-wack silvia, I hope so.
Yikes, that IS a shitty card on paper
I think Franklin has a chance with a good shot or two and some fucken serious GnP…otherwise…..
[quote post=”3489″]Realistically by the way he has been fighting, who is in his league?[/quote]
Who is in Anderson Silva’s league? Paulo Filho, Frank Shamrock, Matt Lindland and maybe Robbie Lawler. Anderson wouldn’t beat all of them, I’m sure of that. But, as you no doubt have noticed, those guys aren’t in the UFC.
Maybe Henderson can drop down and fight Anderson, The UFC middleweight division is pretty weak. I think Franklin will do better in their second fight, and he could win, but the first one makes it seem like just a matter of time before Anderson gets the finish, especially in a five round bout.
Thorazine,
I just think he’s a little rattled and he’s completing changing his training regiment. I think he’s going to try to beat Anderson with strength IMO, and muscle weighs a lot more than water weight. Plus from what I’ve seen of Franklin at 185, he never looks comfortable with the cut. We’ll see though, just something that came to mind the more i read about the fight.
I like your fight prediction btw. I don’t know if Silva will accept a stall motion though, he’ll start throwing flying ninja stuff.
If they put boner ahead of okami/mcdonald I for one will not order. I mean I don’t like tuf and never will. So why should I pay when the televised portion includes tuf ‘dummies’
over more exciting fighters who were in pride, etc.
Just shows what a whore of an organiztion the ufc is!
[quote comment=”164189″]If they put boner ahead of okami/mcdonald I for one will not order. I mean I don’t like tuf and never will. So why should I pay when the televised portion includes tuf ‘dummies’
over more exciting fighters who were in pride, etc.
Just shows what a whore of an organiztion the ufc is![/quote]
i agreed with you 100% until shogun went to sleep ala a tuf dummy
oh,y okami vs macdonlad fight will nopt be broadcast? these 2 guys are the tops dogs in the 185 division (next to franklin & silva).. they must be televised
I think the second fight will be just like the first Franklin is going to get Knocked out in frist round. Why is everybody saying Franklin is more determined he sucks he is washed up and silva is going to mop the floor with his butt.
my picks:
anderson silva vs. rich franklin: silva 3rd (T)KO
tim sylvia vs. brandon vera: sylvia unanimous decision
bonnar vs. schaffer: bonnar 2nd rd. rear naked choke
alan belcher vs. kalib starnes: starnes unanimous decision
okami vs. mcdonald: okami unanimous decision
matt grice vs. jason black: black 2nd rd. guillotine choke
jorge gurgel vs. alvin robinson: robinson unanimous decision
josh burkman vs. forrest petz: 2nd rd. (T)KO
maia vs. jenson: jenson 1st. rd. (T)KO
i think this is gonna be a big big test for silva, but only if rich comes out and fights with confidence like he usually does, if he fights like he knows he can win then it’ll be a war, but if he’s even the least bit timid then he’ll get exposed by silva again and get put down…it’ll be a good night for sylvia as long as his back is good to go, he should be able to win two out of three rounds against vera, vera has a lot of talent, but slyvia is too big and should be able to win this fight…i hope its just a mistake that the okami/j-mac fight isn’t on the main card, to me thats the 3rd best fight of the night, i think its gonna be hard for j-mac to submit okami but okami starts slow usually and if j-mac comes out aggressively and wins the first round he could definitely steal one of the other two for a decision, but i think okami’s strength will be too much for j-mac and he’ll either mount him and pound out a stoppage or he’ll win a unanimous decision…bonnar will definitely stop schaffer…i think alvin the kid robinson will stun gurgel…burkman hopefully will finally land one of those huge overhand punches he throws and score a KO…should be a good ppv, i’m pretty excited about it, i love silva and am a pretty big fan of sylvia’s even though no one else is, and bonnar is the man, so i’m definitely looking forward to it…
I’m not for certain if anyone brought this up yet or not, but Okami/McDonald will be televised. I am a taste bit disappointed that Mania is unaware of this. UFC PPVs have nine fights, five of which are televised, unless time allows for extra fights. At this particular moment there are only eight fights listed on the UFC website. As soon as the ninth fight is OFFICIALLY announced, we will then see that Okami/Mc is indeed a televised bout. Again, a website such as this which has been around for awhile should be a little more observant than that. Wake up!
don’t worry they will put this fight on tv, i knew the alan belcher fight would be on but bonner vs shaffer?? i thought maybe burkman would be on, but anyways it will be a good night
[quote post=”3489″]but i think okami’s strength will be too much for j-mac and he’ll either mount him and pound out a stoppage or he’ll win a unanimous decision[/quote]
rich franklin who has beat both jason macdonald and yushin okami said in the UFC 72 post fight conference that Okami was not as strong as he thought he would be, and that he felt yushin okami was not quite as strong as jason macdonald.
It’s definetly time for Vera to show and prove! He can win this if he plays it smart for sure. GO VERA!
[quote comment=”164308″][quote post=”3489″]but i think okami’s strength will be too much for j-mac and he’ll either mount him and pound out a stoppage or he’ll win a unanimous decision[/quote]
rich franklin who has beat both jason macdonald and yushin okami said in the UFC 72 post fight conference that Okami was not as strong as he thought he would be, and that he felt yushin okami was not quite as strong as jason macdonald.[/quote]
people only assume Okami is strong because small man swick couldnt handle him.
I think Im gonna sit this one out. Bonnar and Starnes are not main card material, they’re not really even trying to give good cards anymore are they? What a jip
[quote post=”3489″]I think Franklin will do better in their second fight, and he could win, but the first one makes it seem like just a matter of time before Anderson gets the finish, especially in a five round bout. [/quote]
I hope Franklin does better… I almost fell out of my chair watching the last beating Silva gave him.
I agree with everyone here… When I read the headline and saw McDonald and Okami in the undercard I couldn’t believe it. Someone made a mistake there
[quote post=”3489″]I think Franklin will do better in their second fight, and he could win, but the first one makes it seem like just a matter of time before Anderson gets the finish, especially in a five round bout.
I hope Franklin does better… I almost fell out of my chair watching the last beating Silva gave him.
I agree with everyone here… [/quote]
franklin has nothing to lose here. this fight should be the longest anderson has seen in the cage yet… let’s go franklin!!!
this is like the kind of fight card boxing has. only 2 good fights and some mismatches to protect some favored fighters.
[quote comment=”163991″]Bonner vs. a tomato can is main card? wtf Belcher vs. Starnes is a solid main card but not better than Macdonald vs. Okami. I’m gonna be pissed if this stays like this! (aren’t ppv card 5 fights min?)[/quote]
Why is every one always so down on the tomato can, that Bonner is fighting? Tomato can took Wanderli Silva to the 5th round in a Jungle Match back in 2001. He has a lot of competion under his belt…
[quote comment=”164255″]I’m not for certain if anyone brought this up yet or not, but Okami/McDonald will be televised. I am a taste bit disappointed that Mania is unaware of this. UFC PPVs have nine fights, five of which are televised, unless time allows for extra fights. At this particular moment there are only eight fights listed on the UFC website. As soon as the ninth fight is OFFICIALLY announced, we will then see that Okami/Mc is indeed a televised bout. Again, a website such as this which has been around for awhile should be a little more observant than that. Wake up![/quote]
I said “guaranteed” because it’s not guaranteed. Will it be aired? Most likely. I was just surprised it was not “guaranteed.”
is this the first time only three fights have been sceduled to be televised? Usually there are 4 fights. My quess is the okami fight isn’t being showed so they can sell it on their website. slowly, the greed that ruined boxing is infecting the ufc.
[quote comment=”164420″]is this the first time only three fights have been sceduled to be televised? Usually there are 4 fights. My quess is the okami fight isn’t being showed so they can sell it on their website. slowly, the greed that ruined boxing is infecting the ufc.[/quote]
Hvywt.: Tim Sylvia (23-3) vs. Brandon Vera (8-0)
205 lbs.: Stephan Bonnar (10-4) vs. Eric Schafer (7-2-2)
185 lbs.: Kalib Starnes (8-1-1) vs. Alan Belcher (10-3)
You are leaving out the main event.
Four fights are guaranteed.
The main card is pretty f’ing lame. No way I’ll buy this one. I’ll have to check it out some other way.
Other than watching the Truth and The Spida destroy….THIS IS SUCH A SHITTY ASS CARD!! Oh and I FUKIN HATE Stephan Bonnar!!!
If Silva puts Franklin away (again) then he will dominate that division for a long time. i really dont hope Dana puts his coins on franklin for winning this fight, it could shake up his “plans” again. if Silva wins i dont see a middleweight title fight for the next 6 months.. maybe there will be but no serious main event worth watching. unless Henderson decides to drop to middleweight. But i think he wont risk that against Silva. Belts generate money.
Now im a bit of a noob if it comes to pride.. aren’t there any good middleweights who could fill up the division with serious challenge? Right now (in my eyes) it’s Silva, Franklin and okami.
Okami-Mcdonald, those 2 guys are even better than Starnes at any given day, Mcdonald won’t submit Okami, so fight would go 3 rounds, that’s why it’s not on the main card.
If Franklin beats Silva, there are going to be alot of people eating their words.
jimmy said: “he [Franklin] sucks he is washed up”
WHAT!? He lost 1 fight to an awesome fighter, and suddenly he is washed up? Very fickle. If he beats Silva I can’t wait for everyone to say Silva sucks and is washed up. Front runners blow my mind.
The longer the fight goes the more i think it benifts franklin especially confidence wise. he needs to get silva guessing on what he is going to do and while taking this fight to the ground seems like the logical answer Rich has to find a way to set that up with his hands; especially if hes looking to stop silva. That’s going to be the hard since Silva likes people who come forward at him(chris leban)so the only real thing franklin can do is try to counter punch and jump silva’s punching lanes with quick jab counters and crosses.
The vera sylvia is interesting because vera is realatively untested against new breed top ufc fighters. he’s cleaned up frank mir and justin elliers who were both number one contender and former champion at one point in time but neither of them had a significant size advantage over vera. Sylvia has a decently big size advantage over vera both in size and height which will make it very difficult for vera to use his tuay clinch which he has used frequently in his past few fights to get inflict viscious knees on an opponent. If Sylvia tries to approach this fight technically like he did aganist monson, couture, and arloski 3, he will probably get picked apart by the end of the first and there onward. If he approaches the fight as an emotional fighter which he is much better at doing and uses his size to bully vera around it will only be a matter of time before vera’s seeing tweety birds.
[quote comment=”164034″][quote comment=”163991″]Bonner vs. a tomato can is main card? wtf Belcher vs. Starnes is a solid main card but not better than Macdonald vs. Okami. I’m gonna be pissed if this stays like this! (aren’t ppv card 5 fights min?)[/quote]
I reall hope you are not calling Eric Schafer a tomato can. Eric Schafer has some of the best BJJ in that weight class, actually he might have the best BJJ in that division.
I think Okami/MacDonald will be a swing bout that will more than likely be put on TV.[/quote]
Really? Ravishing Red’s BJJ is superior to Silva’s black belt level BJJ? Or even J-Mac’s? Or Grove’s? Face it, the dude is a tomato can.
If Rich loses this fight I will ball like a baby. I will be in the stands for this fight holding my BB gun. Once Anderson hits Rich I will fire few rounds in Andersons direction
[quote post=”3489″]I reall hope you are not calling Eric Schafer a tomato can. Eric Schafer has some of the best BJJ in that weight class, actually he might have the best BJJ in that division.[/quote]
Shaw’s Grocery Store’s just had their yearly “Can-Can” sale. I was walking down the aisles and noticed some new brands I’ve never seen before, one of them being - Schafer’s Canned Ravishing Red Crushed Tomatos.
[quote post=”3489″]I think its a mess up, usually there are 5 televised fights on a PPV. This card there is only 4. Okami/ Macdonald fight will no doubt get sorted out. [/quote]
There are always 4 fights on the main card, PLUS 1 swing bout. The swing bout is shown 99% of the time - as long as there is time for it to be shown, and the fight actually takes place during the live televised prortion - its not a pre-recorded prelim. A good example of a swing bout, was Kenny Florian vs Alvin Robinson at UFC Stacked. The UFC didn’t think that there was going to be time to show the swing bout, but since Anderson Silva took care of Nate Marquardt in the 1st round, they had time for the swing bout, and the swing bout actually took place AFTER the main event. That’s why they kind of rushed everyone out of the octagon. That is the only instance I can think of where it was after the main event. Usually the swing bout is the 2nd or 3rd fight shown.
[quote post=”3489″]I have a pre-fight prediction for you guys. Franklin won’t make weight. Any takers? [/quote]
Thorazine, do you want to bet as well? Is this just a heads up bet, or are there odds attached.
Because I’d even be willing to give you up to 50 - 1 odds. I’ll bet you $10. If he makes weight, you owe me $10, but if he doesn’t make weight, I owe you $500.
If not making weight guaranteed that Rich wouldn’t have to stop foot into the octagon with Anderson, then he’d come in weighing 224 lbs. But since Anderson has the choice of whether or not he still wants to fight Rich if Rich doesn’t make weight, he might as well take his beating at the proper weight.
[quote post=”3489″]So why should I pay when the televised portion includes tuf “dummies’ over more exciting fighters who were in pride, etc.
Just shows what a whore of an organiztion the ufc is! [/quote]
All those PRIDE stars sure looked great and entertaining so far - NOT! Heath the Hired Gun Herring sucks monkey balls, and he nearly beat Big Nog (I am a fan of Big Nog as well). Cro Cop, well, I won’t even get started. Marcus Aurellio got dominated by Clay Guida. Forrest took Shogun to school and introduced him to how we throw down here in the USA.
Please name me 1 fighter from PRIDE that has had great exciting fights in the UFC? Rampage doesn’t count because he was aquired from the WFA, not PRIDE. Also, Anderson Silva was done with PRIDE way before the UFC bought them.
All of these “TUF Dummies” have been winning and winning. At this past UFN, most people were picked Terry Martin to beat Leben, but Leben won. Your TUF Dummies won every single fight on that card. TUF Dummy Joe Stevenson is fighting BJ Penn for the LW belt. KenFlo the TUF dummy already had a title shot and will be #1 contender again very soon. KOS, yes he is a dummy, but he was just in a #1 contender match with GSP, and he lasted all 3 rounds. TUF Dummmy Jardine just beat Chuck Liddell and Forrest just beat Shogun. I could go on and on and on if you’d like me to, just let me know.
Of course, every season of TUF will have their Danny Abadi’s, Josh Rafferty’s, Wayne Weem’s, and hopefully never again a Joe Scarola, but each season we get some good solid talent for the UFC!
[quote post=”3489″]Now im a bit of a noob if it comes to pride.. aren’t there any good middleweights who could fill up the division with serious challenge? Right now (in my eyes) it’s Silva, Franklin and okami. [/quote]
For some reason, all the good MW’s that Zuffa is signing are going to the WEC, when they should be in the UFC. Its a disgrace the Paulo Filho is in the WEC. Jason Mayhem Miller who is currently with the WEC MW division is more than ready to fight in the UFC again. Actually, I think that he would be ranked about number 5 in the division, before even fighting - that’s how weak this division is right now.
somebody has to step up in the 185’s. McDonald got used by Franklin. Dan Henderson needs to drop to 185 and fight the winner here.
other than the headliner, this is one boring card. with a PPV event practically every month, this one is way too weak.
the one i wanna see is the return of the truth, big fan of vera he might be rusty in the cage being off for a year and that scares me since he is fighting slyvia.
[quote comment=”164462″][quote comment=”164034″][quote comment=”163991″]Bonner vs. a tomato can is main card? wtf Belcher vs. Starnes is a solid main card but not better than Macdonald vs. Okami. I’m gonna be pissed if this stays like this! (aren’t ppv card 5 fights min?)[/quote]
I reall hope you are not calling Eric Schafer a tomato can. Eric Schafer has some of the best BJJ in that weight class, actually he might have the best BJJ in that division.
I think Okami/MacDonald will be a swing bout that will more than likely be put on TV.[/quote]
Really? Ravishing Red’s BJJ is superior to Silva’s black belt level BJJ? Or even J-Mac’s? Or Grove’s? Face it, the dude is a tomato can.[/quote]
Wow.. you do know your MMA weight classes.
Schafer is a LIGHT HEAVY WEIGHT and probably does have the best BJJ in that DIVISION.. WHICH IS LIGHT HEAVY WEIGHT.
Thales Leites bar none has the best BJJ in the Middleweight division, followed up by Travis Lutter and Martin Kampmann, then Anderson Silva.
J-Mac does not have THAT GREAT of BJJ. Schafer bar none has better BJJ than J-Mac, he has better BJJ than Kendall Grove.
[quote post=”3489″]Thales Leites bar none has the best BJJ in the Middleweight division, followed up by Travis Lutter and Martin Kampmann, then Anderson Silva.[/quote]
Thales for sure, as far as the UFC is concerned(Paulo Filho). But I was not aware that Martin Kampmann had such great BJJ. He is know for his standup, primarily.