Dan all the way in this fight!!!!!

Bring it on, this will really show where Tito is at. It will also be a good fight for Dan at 205.

OOOOOoooo I would love to see Tito go down to Dan’s big right hand!

The UFC is serving dinner to Hendo. The main course is gonna be filet o’ Tito.

I pick Hendersen by TKO

no way tito cud ever win

Jardine won over Chuck the Iceman,

Apparently Ive been the only person who has watched the UFC the past year. All the upsets… You all were talking about how Ice man wins by KO well tito has a shot

[quote comment="161351"]Jardine won over Chuck the Iceman,

Apparently Ive been the only person who has watched the UFC the past year. All the upsets… You all were talking about how Ice man wins by KO well tito has a shot[/quote]

Nobody said Tito doesnt have a shot….were just stating our opinion that Dan is KTFO of Tito…..anything can happen….

tito has no chance what so ever

Oh wow this might end up being a great fight.
Henderson is a great fighter, but Tito is VERY strong…

Who is Rashad will fight then, I hope its not Silva in 79, put against Houston and see what is up.

Welp this is great for Henderson and Tito cause Henderson will win and Tito will finally get the chance to go into acting cause he has nothing left….just like he said. Good Bye UFC, Hello HOLLYWOOD for Mr. Ortiz

[quote comment="161354"]Oh wow this might end up being a great fight.
Henderson is a great fighter, but Tito is VERY strong…[/quote]

Doesn’t matter how strong Tito is, supposedly Chuck is not that “strong” but in thier fight he lifted Tito up on his back and swung him off. Dan is an animal!

…I would love to see this fight though!!!

always love watching henderson. should be a great fight. i hate tito but he can still come in and give anybody a fight. hopefully hendo can finish him with a ko and get back in the title pic.

Has great potential. Atleast we know with Dan in there it wont be a snooze fest! He isn’t affraid to push the action!!

Dan dominates!!!

let it happen

[quote comment="161351"]Jardine won over Chuck the Iceman,

Apparently Ive been the only person who has watched the UFC the past year. All the upsets… You all were talking about how Ice man wins by KO well tito has a shot[/quote]

No, we have been watching. But there is NO chance of Tito winning this fight. so yea… He can’t knock him out, and he will get killed on the ground.

bye bye tito.maybe start makeing porn after you lose again.

I guess Dan can never lose his title if he never fights at middleweight.

This fight has about as much a chance at an upset as Franklin vs. Silva….. none at all. Hendo has never been knocked out, which doesn’t really matter since Tit – o isn’t exactly a knock out artist, and Hendo is by far the more accomplished grappler and striker. Tito has a better chance than franklin in pulling the upset, but still I don’t think it is very likely. fortunately, tito just signed off on a new contract, and we can all pretty much assume he is going to make a killing off of being killed..

YEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!

just about to leave work, and this is the BEST POSSIBLE news I could have read. My #1 favorite fighter is ‘possibly’ added to the card. I REALLY wish I knew if this was definate, because tickets go on sale tomorrow morning!

This makes it a little bit better but the rest of the cards are still pretty sad.

If Tito is hungry, he’ll train to counter Dan’s style. That’s his only chance. I imagine that Tito has been thinking “Hmmm” having seen all of the upsets of late. If he is really hungry, he has a solid shot at defeating Dan. If he comes in as just the rockstar of the UFC, then he’s finished.

I really don’t think Dan will be taking Tito lightly. A loss to Tito Ortiz (who borders on being a caricature of himself these days) would be completely unacceptable. Losing to Rampage is an honorable defeat. It was a hard-fought battle against a very skilled opponent. Losing to Tito would just be embarrassing.

that would be a good fight for both of them, i wanna see how tito does with pride fighters, and i cant wait to see the game plan the hendo its gonna use… a wrestler a great striker… i think is gonna be a tough fight… jackson looked a lot bigger fighting hendo… let see how it goes with tito…

for me thats a crazy fight…

i cant pick a winner… i just know if the rumor its true… this guys are going to put a great show

This is a dream come true…….that is if Tagg Radio is credible. I’m not sure where I read it, but I heard that they bullsh*t.

You didn’t specify Mike. Is Tito or Dan your favorite fighter

The winner of Tito vs Rashad faces Dan Henderson.

Chuck vs Shogun winner faces the winner of the Henderson fight..back into top of the order for the victor.

It’s interesting to se the UFC go with Dan Henderson to Fight Tito instead of Rashad Evans. Eventhough Henderson is a better fighter I think people really wanted to see Tito Duke it out with Rashad in a grudge match. I personally think Dan Henderson could drop down to the middle weight division and challange the winner of Silva vs Franklin, but if he’s more comfortable @ 205 so be it. I’m picking Hnderson in this fight because Tito likes to out wrestle people,hold them on their back and do damage inside his opponent’s guard and there’s no way he’s going to out wrestle Dan Henderson and no way he’s going to hold Dan on his back. Also I think Henderson has the better standup. He has a leathle right hand and great greeko skills. Although anything can happen in this sport, which has been a popular topic on this story, I’m still picking Henderson in this fight.

Tito has a great chance against Hendo, Tito is way bigger than Hendo, and they are both coming from wrestling background, yeah Hendo has a nice right hand but he is not a kickboxer like Liddell, so it would be a pretty even fight, even if Hendo wins this fight it won’t be an easy win.

Nevermind, you said added to the card, I was sure it wouldn’t be Tito anyway.

I like the match up. I think Tito has abetter shot than most think. I would love to see Rashad fight Houston Alexander. The winners to face eachother in 2008 for the next shot at title.

Meanwhile Jardine and Forrest should throwdwon again to get an immediate shot at Rampage

very interesting, the smallest LHW VS

UFC 78: Tito Retires.

Question, when was the last time Tito Ortiz had a win over a top 5 UFC LHW?

MANIA, I NEED YOUR HELP!!!!

I need to be outta here within 10 minutes or so, preferably earlier. BUT, I had in the calendar on my phone that tickets go on sale for UFC 78 tomorrow morning. I just went to ticketmaster, and then UFC.com. I cannot find out the onsale info. Can you PLEASE post the ticket information for this event. I CAN’t FIND it. Now the Henderson is fighting Tito, I AM THERE, but I need to know if they go on sale tomorrow. My brother in law is getting married tomorrow morning and my wife and I are in the wedding party, so I don’t even know how I’ll be able to pull off the purchase, but for that fight – I’ll make it happen!!!!!!

houston and Rashad would be an interesting match up, I would really love to see Houston fight Waderlei. houston is so damn aggressive. Wandi and him would be a good one.

[quote comment="161394"]very interesting, the smallest LHW VS[/quote]
excuse me, the smallest LHW vs the biggest LHW love me some hendo but should be a great fight, quite a size difference

[quote comment="161355"]Who is Rashad will fight then, I hope its not Silva in 79, put against Houston and see what is up.[/quote]

I’d bet that Rashad will face Machida if the Ortiz rumor is true.

Mania,

ESPECIALLY if you can supply us with the Newletter Subscribers On Sale info.

Please post, even if its after 10 minutes, because I’ll just check when I get home.

But I am starting to think that the alert in my calendar is wrong for some reason. However, I wouldn’t have put it in there unless I read it here or at UFC.com

Please help me, and us, out because I’m sure that a lot of the people on the east coast that were originally going, decided not to. But now that we have Hendo/Tito, I know several people off hand that would now want to attend. And if the onsale is tomorrow, we would need to be aware of that today.

THanks so much Mania!!!!!!!!

[quote comment="161382"]You didn’t specify Mike. Is Tito or Dan your favorite fighter[/quote]
I believe he’s referring to Henderson, because he said his favorite fighter is “added to the card”, since Tito was already on it.

my fault, I didn’t realize you noticed your mistake.

Jesse, John, Luppers, PhilQNY, or ANYONE ELSE,

Does anyone have the onsale info for the UFC 78 in November?????

Many people would appreciate it!!!

Sorry for posting about it so much, but I am legitamately excited about this, and I am walking out the door for the weekend right now…

Have a great weekend everyone!

I would be surprised if this fight did not happen because of the limbo of the LW title fight The UFC needs a big name fight to boost sales to this (UFC 78) event. It’s unfortunate for Tito though because Dan is going to embarrass him. Right now Tito can still draw sales but after he gets dominated by Dan his Marquee status will be lost for good.

[quote comment="161408"]my fault, I didn’t realize you noticed your mistake.[/quote]

No problem, I was really joking anyways. I don;t think Tito is anyone’s favorite fighter. Maybe favorite entertainer, but not fighter. Maybe after UFC he can do some WWE stuff.

I like Danny in this one all the way.
also Rashad against lyota would be a good fight someone would get their first ufc lost always interesting.

Sherdog had written a column, shortly after Henderson’s loss to Jackson (or was it before?), about how the UFC had not built up Dan Henderson enough to make the fight more exciting for casual fans. By matching up Henderson agains Ortiz, I think that Henderson’s recognition will grow enormously. It will probably grow more after he beats Tito, than losing a close decision to Rampage.
I see Henderson taking this one. Both are good wrestlers, but I think Dan’s right hand will be the difference.

1)UFC 67 – Anderson Silva SUBMITTED world class bjj travis lutter…(anderson was the favorite but when travis took him down you know you had doubts) (and no one ever picked da spider winning by submission) ( i believe its the start of the upsets though not really an UPSET… only unexpected)

2)UFC 68 – Most inspirational upset in UFC history – Randy Couture coming from KO loss retirement lost last 2 fights by TKO at heavyweight comin to face 6′8 Tim Sylvia DOMINATING on stand up and ground… the REAL chain starts.

3)UFC 69 – Biggest upset in UFC History – Matt Serra KTFO of then thought-to-be unbeatable GSP… yea it did happen.

4)UFC 70 – Mirko Cro Cop thought to be the best heavyweight on the planet (if not for some russian cyborg). highlight reel KO head kicks ran through eddie sanchez…. thought to be the next in line for randy… if not for Gabriel Gonzaga cro copping cro cop…. mirko was never the same again…..

5)UFC 71 – Coming off a boring win over marvin eastman Rampage was supposed to get dominated and end the greatest lightheavyweight ever Chuck Liddell’s quest for revenge and tying titos record for title defenses… Rampage did what no other can do and took a page out of chucks book with a one punch KTFO!

UFC 72 (no upsets but i dont think anyone watched this one anyways) UFC 73 was also an exeption

6)UFC 74 – old randy was supposed to get claubered by bigger stronger gabe gonzaga! but why would we ever count randy out…(i think its the first time i didnt count him out only bcuz of what hes done b4)

7)UFC 75 – only man to ever simoultaniously hold 2 belts was about to get his 3rd… was “supposed” to walk through Rampage… dan henderson got it taken to him losing by unanimous decision in the biggest event ever!

8)UFC 76 – this one was a showstopper….. number one ranked Shogun Rua came in to beat a popular but no so good fighter forest griffin who came off a KO loss to keith jardine and a boring win over Hector Ramirez… supposed to get dismantled…knocked out…submitted…annihalated…… DOMINATED AND SUBMITTED RUA! (this one is top 3 best upsets ever)

9)UFC 76 – Chuck liddel was supposed to regain his composer and come back to his winning ways against a wierd striking keith jardine who just got KO’ed by a newcomer in a minute… but the again “supposed” is so overrated

9 HUGE upsets in 9 UFC events

dont watch fights to see if your guy is gonna win… watch it to see the actual fight.. youll have more fun…trust me… and you wont look like an idiot most of the time

i apologize for my math

(add emphasis)

!!!9 HUGE upsets in 11 UFC events!!!

I would love to see this fight!

rampage over henderson was not a upset at all, alot of people picked rmapage to win which he did.

anyways i can see why they did this, to put more butts in the seat, hendo will rock tito, can’t wait to watch the fight. i bet that rashad evans will be fighting on the card as well if not this one that maybe in dec hello silva, or houston alexander.

Tito…round 3 by GNP!!

This rumour is false. I contacted Tito and he said this isnt true

UFCMania,
MMANews’ Howie (they guy who does all the interviews) said he talked to Tito and tito said that the rumors were false.

[quote comment="161391"]I like the match up. I think Tito has abetter shot than most think. I would love to see Rashad fight Houston Alexander. The winners to face eachother in 2008 for the next shot at title.[/quote]

i like that, rashad and houston would be a nice fight, i would love to see rah get ktfo, and i also think tito would give henderson a better fight than most think although i would have to go with henderson to win that one…interesting by the ufc, i didn’t think they would split up the tito/rah fight, but since they are i think they should think about having tito fight wanderlei again if they aren’t gonna give us wanderlei vs. chuck, i’d rather see that then dan henderson vs. tito…

Frankly Im blown away by this fight. You honestly cannot say that you saw this one lined up. In my opinion, this easily saved the card and if this is a definite, I will take back my words and actually attend UFC 78.

^ http://forums.mmanews.com/showthread.php?t=15927&page=3

Did all of you not read were it says NOT underlined, this fight is not happening, Tito is fighting Evans.

If Tito Couldn’t get Rashad all the way on his back, he definently will not be able to get Dan on his. And if Rashad was able to get Tito all the way down on his back, in that last round, than Dan DEFINENTLY will be able to. Theres the grappling.
And the striking, Dan shouldn’t have a problem.

Tito ALL the WAY BABE. I seen tito about 3 weeks ago…and the old tito from 04 is coming back…..He’s BACK HBBB!!!!!

Violentmike here is the link.

http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/16003F108B4A4851?artistid=806762&majorcatid=10004&minorcatid=830

it has both options on the ticket selection. I will be there with a few buddies as well. See you there

I agree Dan would win this one, but tito would also make it an interesting card if nothing else. BUMS on seats!! I also agree that tito v silva would be a good one! I feel the “ICE” age will return however, two losses one loss no losses more, Knock out time in CHUCKVILLE next outing if you ask me!!

I have to agree that dan would win this one, however tito would make it interesting. BUMS on seats!! I also have to agree that Silva v tito would also be good, but if the ICEMAN cant get a shot at Silva then niether should tito since hes been dominated by chuck and done little since. On paper tito shouldnt get the chance to fight these guys , but it would be fun. The “ICE” will return next time out for chuck, two losses one loss no loss more its CHUCKVILLE time, feel the power of the chuckside i say!!

Dan by tko… no contest

IMO Hendo should move to 185. Although I dont think he matches up with Anderson Silva that well, he is a true middleweight. Maybe due to his age he doesn’t want to make the cut anymore, but I don’t see him having alot of success at LHW.

I think Tito takes this fight. Henderson now is like Vitor in 05 but with better grappling. Everyone said ahh Tito is going to get demolished by Vitor and look what happened.

Rampage has stated numerous times that when he grapples with Tito, Tito always beat him and pretty decisively. Rampage outwrestled Dan in their last fight in the later rounds. Tito could defiantly outwrestle Dan later on in their fight. If this fight happens it will most likely come down to who has the better striking that night and who was more willing to engage in exchanges. Dan has better striking on paper, but Tito’s striking is very good…Tito however only uses his striking to set up takedowns.

I got Tito by split! Back in forth is what this fight will ultimately play out like.

tito is washed up. Hendo by TKO/Ref. Stoppage

I think that contenders sell the seats, not just names.

GREAT NEWS! i hope it’s true, i’ve been saying since ufc 73 that i would rather see ortiz and evans go on to fight different fighters. they fought a good fight and it’s unfortunate it had to be a draw but i don’t really wanna see it again.

tito for sure could fight at heavyweight and dan can easily fight at middleweight, that could possibly make a difference in the grappling just maybe..?

Tito by 1st round KO

This is better than nothing. I mean we just had Liddell vs. Jardine who would have thought that was going to go the way it did. It should be for a great fight!

Again I read the first 3 posts and MAN THERE ARE SO MANY people who simply ADORE talking s*ht! AMAZING! So Dan will do this and that! like Shogun and Liddell right? no wait, like GSP vs Serra rigth? no no hold up how bad would the Natural lose to Tim Sylvia, STFU! Don’t be surprised if Tito Ortiz kicks his a*ss. We’ll see what happens.

Honestly Tito has no shot, i know this is MMA but Tito will never KO Hollywood, or pound out a stopage. Tito hasn’t KO’d anybody even with a decent chin, nor out-wrestle anybody either of caliber in a long time, sure he’s a draw but unless he’s fighting tuf fighters, don’t expect him to pull anything out very soon

This doesn’t even make sense. TITO ORTIZ will dominate Henderson. A lot of you will disagree with me now, but after the fight you will all be giving excuses of why Henderson lost.

[quote comment="161565"]Tito by 1st round KO[/quote]

thats “fo sho”

Is it just me, or in that picture do Hendo’s head and fist totally not match? It looks like Henderson’s left fist was replaced by the gloved hand of a marionette.

[quote comment="161409"]Jesse, John, Luppers, PhilQNY, or ANYONE ELSE,

Does anyone have the onsale info for the UFC 78 in November?????

Many people would appreciate it!!!

Sorry for posting about it so much, but I am legitamately excited about this, and I am walking out the door for the weekend right now…

Have a great weekend everyone![/quote]

ViolentMike: I have been scrambling the same as you ever since I herd Dan was added to the card. I havent herd anything about the tickets being on sale. The UFC has not confirmed the fight yet

I hear that the fight is not gonna happen………..Oh well, it just turned back into a crappy card

I’m very upset that this fight isn’t going to happen. I was thinking abou tmaking the drive to go to this but with the lightweight title not happening and Dan Henderson not happening this event is basically dead. They need to put a high profile fight on this card. Unfortunatly all titles can’t happen in this fight. Randy Couture suffered a broken arm in the fight against Gabe Gonzaga so that’s out, both lightheavyweight contenders just fought and need recovery time (Jardeen @ ufc 76, Forrest Griffen @ UFC 76) and the UFC won’t rob either of those men of the next title shot. The middleweight title will be fought for @ UFC 77. The Welterweight title is happening in December @ UFC 79 as well as the the lightweight title thanks to CSAC setting Sean Sherks steroid appeal for October 31. With that in mind what I would like to see is a contender bout to determin who will fight the winner of Hughes vs Serra between Georges St. Pierre and John Fitch. Although I don’t believe this will happen I can allways dream.

[quote comment="161844"]I’m very upset that this fight isn’t going to happen. I was thinking abou tmaking the drive to go to this but with the lightweight title not happening and Dan Henderson not happening this event is basically dead. They need to put a high profile fight on this card. Unfortunatly all titles can’t happen in this fight. Randy Couture suffered a broken arm in the fight against Gabe Gonzaga so that’s out, both lightheavyweight contenders just fought and need recovery time (Jardeen @ ufc 76, Forrest Griffen @ UFC 76) and the UFC won’t rob either of those men of the next title shot. The middleweight title will be fought for @ UFC 77. The Welterweight title is happening in December @ UFC 79 as well as the the lightweight title thanks to CSAC setting Sean Sherks steroid appeal for October 31. With that in mind what I would like to see is a contender bout to determin who will fight the winner of Hughes vs Serra between Georges St. Pierre and John Fitch. Although I don’t believe this will happen I can allways dream.[/quote]

Dream away and pass the dutchie. The math works out so that Kos and Fitch would be next in line. I want to see it happen, AKA has three fighters at 170 and they all want to contend, it’s time to see who the top dog is.

It would have been a great fight, but I would still like to see hendo drop to middleweight. He needs to defend his title and unify it with the ufc title. I think he would have an easier time fighting franklin than anderson silva, but either way there arnt a lot of fighters in middle who could stand up to him. It would be nice to see him dominate the division, cause he seems like somone the ufc would want as a poster boy. But still it would have been nice to Hendo knock that big ogre, tito, out.

it’s going to be a great fight cuz they both matchup the same which is going to be sickk but the stand up definately goes to hendo…

[quote comment="161398"]houston and Rashad would be an interesting match up, I would really love to see Houston fight Waderlei. houston is so damn aggressive. Wandi and him would be a good one.[/quote]
Im really looking forward to Houston’s next fight also. Although I would like to see one more “B” level fighter before he gets close to a title shot. In particular, seeing him smash someone like Bisping would be great. I think he needs to demolish someone first to increase his confidence in order for him to take on someone like Wandi

[quote comment="161882"]The math works out so that Kos and Fitch would be next in line.[/quote]

I think Karo is ahead of Kos in that line. What makes the most sense right now would be to schedule a #1 contender bout between Karo and Fitch around the beginning of spring (about the same time that GSP will be getting his title shot). Then the winner of Karo/Fitch gets the winner of GSP/winning-Matt for WW title. That should clear up the top-5 pecking order pretty nicely.

Anyone who thinks Dan will run through Tito, is in for a rude awakening. Tito is far from finished and is a threat to ANYONE in the LHW division.

mania,

is this thread hung up due to moderation?

I had a post awhile ago in this thread that never showed up.

[quote post="3462"]Tito by 1st round KO [/quote]

I think that I have to agree Dan looked like shit when he gassed against rampage and got handled like a bitch .

I think Tito v Dan will be a lot like Tito v Randy.

Tito will just get out wrestled.

I for one would love to see this fight for many reasons. Dan did gas but he won’t next time (plus it would be only 3 rounds), it would also prove if he has a future at 205. I like this guy he is honest and has a hard head, you could see how disappointed he was at losing. He will be back big time, he knocked out Silva for Gods sake!! I think people underestimate how good Rampage is now.

I think it would also prove if Tito has a future, I like the guy, apart from his antics with Shamrock, which in my opinion he wasted too much time on and lost his way abit. Having said that I think it was Shamrock who kept asking for rematches. Tito needs to prove himself that he is still big time and forget having all these rematches – go and fight different fighters, test yourself your still young enough.

dan henderson would definetly win. hes a better wrestler and a better striker than tito. knock him out dan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

well its not gonna happen TITO is dumb he isnt answering Dana Whites calls

Tito is the ultimate dumb ass. He’s always talking about being a “businessman” and how his slut is giving him “business” advice but every time I hear Tito’s name, it has something to do with Tito asking for more: more money, more credit, more exposure, more time AND ultimatley he screws up and looks like a jackass. Here is another perfect example of this: He’s offered a main event fight, and lets face it, Tito is extremely lucky they would even consider him for main event and he stalls out on negotiations. If i was the UFC, I would have released him from his contract long ago. He’s washed up.

Tito will get spanked he wont be able to take down Henderson just like he cant take down Forrest or rashsad then hw will get spanked on the feet and he may be put on his back bad match up for Tito, after this loss Tito should be released he is no longer a threat in the UFC poeple arent afraid of him anymore they know he can be beat and easy he always talks about what hes gonna do and never comes thru talkin about your going to see a 100 percent Tito come on now his stand up is always the same it never changes he gasses at the 2nd round and pretty much give up in round 3, hes done.

Give Tito his respect. He has a GOOD chance to beat Henderson.
When I met Tito in Vegas he was a gentleman, unlike reports that say he’s arrogant and cocky. Took plenty of time to pose for pics. Furthermore, there has to be life after UFC/MMA career. He’d make a name for himself in the acting “biz”.
Last, lets hope Dana has a few “comps” for the “boys”. Lot’s of Mob influence in the Newark/Belleville area. And these guys love the fight game, normaly expect to get a few free tickets and some VIP courtesy when they ask.

My only concern for Dan in this fight is I could see him avoiding the clinch and trying to use his right hand. Tito might be stronger than Dan too. So I could see Tito using his strikes to get in close to Dan and pressing him up against the cage. If Tito gets top position and lays him out flat on his back that might just be the end of the fight. But Dan is a very good wrestler, probably better than Tito so in the transitions of the takedown I could see Dan establishing a top position, passing Tito’s guard and mounting him. So to me, it could go either way. I think if Tito makes this a wrestling match rather than an MMA match Tito would lose. But if he decides to use all of his skills he could beat Dan Henderson which would be a huge step up for him. So I predict…Tito wins by either decision or TKO.

the only thing great or big about this fight is the beating that ortiz will receive.