Comments on: Keith Jardine: ‘More excited’ to beat Griffin than Liddell http://mmamania.com/2007/09/28/keith-jardine-more-excited-to-beat-griffin-than-liddell/ UFC news, event schedules, fight analysis, Octagon predictions, UFC fighters and MMA thoughts Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:20:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Vader http://mmamania.com/2007/09/28/keith-jardine-more-excited-to-beat-griffin-than-liddell/#comment-361445 Vader Thu, 13 Mar 2008 01:43:14 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/09/28/keith-jardine-more-excited-to-beat-griffin-than-liddell/#comment-361445 Ha ha ha ha Jardine got his ass handed to him from Houston Alexander what an awesome beating...Alexander should have f**k up Jardine more to assure he would never compete again. Jardine's fights with Liddell and Griffin were meh. Ha ha ha ha Jardine got his ass handed to him from Houston Alexander what an awesome beating…Alexander should have f**k up Jardine more to assure he would never compete again.

Jardine’s fights with Liddell and Griffin were meh.

]]> By: Neil http://mmamania.com/2007/09/28/keith-jardine-more-excited-to-beat-griffin-than-liddell/#comment-164403 Neil Wed, 03 Oct 2007 12:33:47 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/09/28/keith-jardine-more-excited-to-beat-griffin-than-liddell/#comment-164403 I am abit concerned with the "Jardine shouldn't fight Griffin because he knocked him out but should rematch Houston" talk. My point to this is why should Houston fight Jardine he's already knocked him out whether Jardine underestimated him or not. You could say the same with Liddell underestimating Jardine so he should get a rematch (I am sure there will be one down the line). And I defo do not want to see another Tito vs Chuck fight, that would be sooo boring now and what would it prove anyway. There are some big players in the 205 league now, so lets get some of these guys who haven't fought each other together. Personally, and it is only my opinion, I would like to see the following fights:- Shogun vs Ortiz (he will beat Rashad next time round) Hendo vs Jardine (winner takes on title holder) Rampage vs Griffin (I think Griffin deserves a shot) Liddell vs Silva (Because we have to know) Houston vs Rashad (This will prove Houston) I think this would start to clear up where people stand, I apologise if I have missed anybody out (I probably have). I am abit concerned with the “Jardine shouldn’t fight Griffin because he knocked him out but should rematch Houston” talk. My point to this is why should Houston fight Jardine he’s already knocked him out whether Jardine underestimated him or not. You could say the same with Liddell underestimating Jardine so he should get a rematch (I am sure there will be one down the line). And I defo do not want to see another Tito vs Chuck fight, that would be sooo boring now and what would it prove anyway.

There are some big players in the 205 league now, so lets get some of these guys who haven’t fought each other together. Personally, and it is only my opinion, I would like to see the following fights:-

Shogun vs Ortiz (he will beat Rashad next time round)
Hendo vs Jardine (winner takes on title holder)
Rampage vs Griffin (I think Griffin deserves a shot)
Liddell vs Silva (Because we have to know)
Houston vs Rashad (This will prove Houston)

I think this would start to clear up where people stand, I apologise if I have missed anybody out (I probably have).

]]> By: ViolentMike http://mmamania.com/2007/09/28/keith-jardine-more-excited-to-beat-griffin-than-liddell/#comment-162708 ViolentMike Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:02:02 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/09/28/keith-jardine-more-excited-to-beat-griffin-than-liddell/#comment-162708 [quote post="3459"]I know, I know...Rashad you ask, "Whats he done to deserve Rampage?) Nothing really, but this could be explosive, his style was dulled against Tito, and Sean Salmon aside, Rashad doesn't really finish. They're both the same size roughly and strong as hell,[/quote] Rashad and Rampage are actually no where near the same size. Rampage is 6'1" and Rashad is 5'11". But more importantly, Rampage is much larger physically. After seeing the shape that Rashad was in in his fight against Tito, I actually think that he has a shot at making MW. On the other hand, there's no way the Rampage can cut down to MW. [quote post="3459"]One way to solve the houston alexander debate would be to have him fight liddell, then griffen could fight rampage and jardine could fight silva, the division would be clearer after that!! [/quote] That sounds good to me MO [quote post=”3459″]I know, I know…Rashad you ask, “Whats he done to deserve Rampage?) Nothing really, but this could be explosive, his style was dulled against Tito, and Sean Salmon aside, Rashad doesn’t really finish. They’re both the same size roughly and strong as hell,[/quote]

Rashad and Rampage are actually no where near the same size. Rampage is 6′1″ and Rashad is 5′11″. But more importantly, Rampage is much larger physically. After seeing the shape that Rashad was in in his fight against Tito, I actually think that he has a shot at making MW. On the other hand, there’s no way the Rampage can cut down to MW.

[quote post=”3459″]One way to solve the houston alexander debate would be to have him fight liddell, then griffen could fight rampage and jardine could fight silva, the division would be clearer after that!! [/quote]

That sounds good to me MO

]]> By: Spider Style http://mmamania.com/2007/09/28/keith-jardine-more-excited-to-beat-griffin-than-liddell/#comment-162529 Spider Style Mon, 01 Oct 2007 01:59:31 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/09/28/keith-jardine-more-excited-to-beat-griffin-than-liddell/#comment-162529 very true. Alexander is in a position now as is Chuck. Houston on a 2 fight win streak and Chuck on a 2 loss fight streak. very true. Alexander is in a position now as is Chuck. Houston on a 2 fight win streak and Chuck on a 2 loss fight streak.

]]> By: mo http://mmamania.com/2007/09/28/keith-jardine-more-excited-to-beat-griffin-than-liddell/#comment-162478 mo Sun, 30 Sep 2007 21:45:03 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/09/28/keith-jardine-more-excited-to-beat-griffin-than-liddell/#comment-162478 One way to solve the houston alexander debate would be to have him fight liddell, then griffen could fight rampage and jardine could fight silva, the division would be clearer after that!! One way to solve the houston alexander debate would be to have him fight liddell, then griffen could fight rampage and jardine could fight silva, the division would be clearer after that!!

]]> By: Spider Style http://mmamania.com/2007/09/28/keith-jardine-more-excited-to-beat-griffin-than-liddell/#comment-162470 Spider Style Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:59:08 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/09/28/keith-jardine-more-excited-to-beat-griffin-than-liddell/#comment-162470 IMO there is too many fights that are rematches. Jardine lost. every time you lose you shouldn't have a rematch just for the sake of getting even. thats the reason we keep having these trilogies. you lose thats it. accept it and move on. does this mean that now Hendo needs a rematch, and Shogun needs a rematch, and Gonzaga needs a rematch. it's bullshit. IMO there is too many fights that are rematches. Jardine lost. every time you lose you shouldn’t have a rematch just for the sake of getting even. thats the reason we keep having these trilogies. you lose thats it. accept it and move on. does this mean that now Hendo needs a rematch, and Shogun needs a rematch, and Gonzaga needs a rematch. it’s bullshit.

]]> By: SaVaGe http://mmamania.com/2007/09/28/keith-jardine-more-excited-to-beat-griffin-than-liddell/#comment-162464 SaVaGe Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:33:47 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/09/28/keith-jardine-more-excited-to-beat-griffin-than-liddell/#comment-162464 [quote comment="161944"][quote comment="161495"] Jardine KO'd Griffin, so there is no reason for him to rematch with him. I say Jardine vs. Houston[/quote] If thats your logic why should Houston have to fight Jardine again?[/quote] Only because Houston hasn't earned a title shot, Jardine just beat Liddell and the winner of Jardine/Alexander gives Alexander the chance to validate and Jardine the chance to avenge. The winner gets Rampage. [quote comment=”161944″][quote comment=”161495″]

Jardine KO’d Griffin, so there is no reason for him to rematch with him. I say Jardine vs. Houston[/quote]

If thats your logic why should Houston have to fight Jardine again?[/quote]

Only because Houston hasn’t earned a title shot, Jardine just beat Liddell and the winner of Jardine/Alexander gives Alexander the chance to validate and Jardine the chance to avenge. The winner gets Rampage.

]]> By: sooper822 http://mmamania.com/2007/09/28/keith-jardine-more-excited-to-beat-griffin-than-liddell/#comment-162341 sooper822 Sun, 30 Sep 2007 14:00:21 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/09/28/keith-jardine-more-excited-to-beat-griffin-than-liddell/#comment-162341 im sorry guys but the only top guy who has any business fighting alexander at this point is jardine because he lost to him. in my opinion it would be a step down for anyone in the top five to fight him, he is a newcomer with 2 fights. he needs a few more wins to get into the title picture. if they don't give forrest the title shot now then i say him and jardine rematch and winner gets rampage. silva gets shot at winner of rampage-forrest/jardine. i really think this is the way things SHOULD play out. but who knows.... im sorry guys but the only top guy who has any business fighting alexander at this point is jardine because he lost to him. in my opinion it would be a step down for anyone in the top five to fight him, he is a newcomer with 2 fights. he needs a few more wins to get into the title picture. if they don’t give forrest the title shot now then i say him and jardine rematch and winner gets rampage. silva gets shot at winner of rampage-forrest/jardine. i really think this is the way things SHOULD play out. but who knows….

]]> By: jsoph http://mmamania.com/2007/09/28/keith-jardine-more-excited-to-beat-griffin-than-liddell/#comment-162287 jsoph Sun, 30 Sep 2007 10:29:47 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/09/28/keith-jardine-more-excited-to-beat-griffin-than-liddell/#comment-162287 Im still not 100% on Houston Alexander, he beat Jardine who understimated him and made a mistake, and Sakerra who beats himself before he steps in to fight so i dont think he should be in the top 10, My title contention status 1. Griffen 2. Jardine 3. shogun 4. Machida 5. Henderson 6. Liddell 7. Silva 8. Evans 9. Alexander 10.Ortiz my rankings Based on wins in the Ufc Griffen should be next no argument Jardine with one more impressive Victory Shogun With two wins Machida two or one ko win over a thought opponent Hendo two wins Liddell three wins Silva one or two impressive wins Evans with a win over tito Alexander two or three more wins Ortiz is done Three impressive wins Im still not 100% on Houston Alexander, he beat Jardine who understimated him and made a mistake, and Sakerra who beats himself before he steps in to fight so i dont think he should be in the top 10, My title contention status
1. Griffen
2. Jardine
3. shogun
4. Machida
5. Henderson
6. Liddell
7. Silva
8. Evans
9. Alexander
10.Ortiz

my rankings Based on wins in the Ufc
Griffen should be next no argument
Jardine with one more impressive Victory
Shogun With two wins
Machida two or one ko win over a thought opponent
Hendo two wins
Liddell three wins
Silva one or two impressive wins
Evans with a win over tito
Alexander two or three more wins
Ortiz is done Three impressive wins

]]> By: jsoph http://mmamania.com/2007/09/28/keith-jardine-more-excited-to-beat-griffin-than-liddell/#comment-162279 jsoph Sun, 30 Sep 2007 10:09:50 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/09/28/keith-jardine-more-excited-to-beat-griffin-than-liddell/#comment-162279 [quote comment="161265"]The current rankings in my opinion are 1. Rampage 2. Henderson 3. Liddell 4. Jardine 5. Griffin 6. Shogun 7. Alexander 8. Silva 9. Machida 10.Ortiz this i have based on previous fights and also capabilities to win future fights. Silva is down there as he has not yet fought in the ufc, he should fight either Alexander or Machida. For jardine or griffin to get a shot they should have to go through henderson which i cant see happening. However Ramapage needs an opponent, i would personally put him up against griffin simply because it would be a box office hit and also griffin has just beat Shogun! Alexander vs Silva, and liddell vs jardine 2. Shogun vs Machida[/quote] Why Alexander before Machida? [quote comment=”161265″]The current rankings in my opinion are
1. Rampage
2. Henderson
3. Liddell
4. Jardine
5. Griffin
6. Shogun
7. Alexander
8. Silva
9. Machida
10.Ortiz

this i have based on previous fights and also capabilities to win future fights. Silva is down there as he has not yet fought in the ufc, he should fight either Alexander or Machida. For jardine or griffin to get a shot they should have to go through henderson which i cant see happening. However Ramapage needs an opponent, i would personally put him up against griffin simply because it would be a box office hit and also griffin has just beat Shogun!
Alexander vs Silva, and liddell vs jardine 2. Shogun vs Machida[/quote]
Why Alexander before Machida?

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