The Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC) today retained the $25,000 win bonus it initially withheld from Renato “Babalu” Sobral after his controversial submission win over David Heath at UFC 74: “Respect” on August 25.
Even though the decision hit the Brazilian hard in the checkbook, his decision to hold onto a choke well after Heath tapped and the referee attempted to peel him off did not warrant a suspension.
Babalu did take home $25,000 for his final appearance (for now) in the Octagon despite the fine.
The lack of suspension is good news for the mixed martial arts veteran, considering the UFC released him from his contract shortly after the incident.
Babalu is now a free agent and is allowed to fight in other organizations, which should not be too hard once the dust settles.
For more on this situation hit up our Babalu archive.
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good news for babalu, he should still be in the UFC after the beating he gave heath!
Great News!!! I hope in time to see him back in the UFC, I think he could definately be a contender again after the recent events in the LHWD. Obviously if the NSAC didn’t suspend him this give DW the room not too, Dispite what DI@@heads like Jesse Holland think.
IMO this was the best outcome for everyone. NSAC gets the cash, UFC makes a statement and Babalu gets to fight, even in the Nevada. Everyone gets something…except for Heath.
[quote comment=”158149″]IMO this was the best outcome for everyone. NSAC gets the cash, UFC makes a statement and Babalu gets to fight, even in the Nevada. Everyone gets something…except for Heath.[/quote]
Heath’s name is more out there than it ever would have been - that’s gotta count for something, I guess.
I forget what this Japenese guys name is but I saw a video on some of his fights…and what he did on multiple occasions was much worse than what happened with Babulu.
WAR Babulu!!!!!!!!
What about BJ on Jens - what the #*@!. This is the type of crap that puts me over the top. Like the UFC does not have any pull with this commission. I am sorry, if you suspend Penn - Sir Babalu never tries to pull this stunt.
OK - Here is the talking point:
1. let us all distance ourselves from Babalu for 3 more months and then we all can be friends.
[quote comment=”158158″][quote comment=”158149″] Everyone gets something…except for Heath.[/quote]
Heath’s name is more out there than it ever would have been - that’s gotta count for something, I guess.[/quote]
Yeah, he gets to be the guy known for getting his ass handed to him by a couple of Brazilians (Machida and Babalu).
I agree with you PAIR. On the BJ-PULVER incident
kid yamamoto put a hurting when he ground and pounded the other guy, even after the ref and everyone else tried to stop him. Babalu is a fighter and that fight was good, should’ve been submission of the night and candidate for fight of the night after babalu rolled through him. give the man his 25k win prize!
Ok, I just read the old thread. Babalu arrested for tres/assault a few weeks before said fight. HMMM - so NASC gives cover to the UFC by holding back money and reviewing the fight so the UFC can go ahead and release Bubbles from his contract. OK, for integrity sake, where is the review of the Penn fight? Must be there is no need for Babalu and a need for BJ. OK, I got it.
We want BABALU back in the UFC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Agreed bring him back. I am sure he will have to rack up some Ws in other places first though…unfortunately.
I didn’t think Babalu really did anything worse than what BJ did. The only real difference is
a) Heath was bloodied up and made it look like a massacre.
b) Babalu looks evil and viscious
c) Babalu supposedly admitted to trying to teach Heath a lesson, although later stated that that he was talking about the beating he gave Heath, not the choke. Which I’ll just take his for for.
d) Babalu actually apologised afterwards.
There’s a video somewhere where someone interviews BJ Penn about him holding the choke too long and BJ Penn says “The choke wasn’t held long enough… There really was some bad blood” in reference to the Pulver choke.
So really, in the end, I really don’t think Babalu deserved any more punishment than Penn did.
And Penn got off scott-free.
Double standards don’t fair well. If the UFC releases Renato, then BJ should go too.
Not that I advocate for that, but seriously. These guys are supposed to be professionals. That kind of shit has no place in the Octagon whether it be Renato or BJ as the offender in question.
All American - f*&K Yeah we do! Good hit.
Babalu is the man. Give him back his cash too so he can touch up those tat’s
If you look at all the past fights that ended in submission throughout MMA history you will find that most of those fights ended with the winning fighter holding on to the move an extra 2 to 3 seconds after he should have.
Babalu should get SHogun and they can settle things…bring him back
Imagine if Babalu fought Shogun Saturday, he would have dominated him, he will be back.
Now that Lidell is out Babalu could give rampage a run for his money. Too bad he’ll be in the WEC. lol. BABALU vs SHOGUN NOW!!!!!!
Babalu’s wrestling is extremely underrated. I really think he’s a great fighter. His submissions are world-class, his wrestling is great, and his ground and pound is good too. Plus his standup isn’t too bad. I think he can ground and submit or pound out a lot of the overrated fighters in the lightheavy division.
[quote comment=”158312″]Imagine if Babalu fought Shogun Saturday, he would have dominated him, he will be back.[/quote]
Anyone fighting Shogun would have dominated him, his cardio was just too weak for MMA. Its a shame as well because he had Forrest cut open which is good for a guy who only recently trainned using elbows. Forrest would never of got his back so many times had he not been drainned.
But what is going on, you would think coming to the UFC these fighters would train night and day, and therefore have the stamina of a pornstar but that obviously is not the case. He lost that fight before he even entered the cage.
So glad Babalu will be back!!! Go for a triangle choke babalu!!! Yeehaw. No one can stop this guy now. Would love to see him VS ORTIZ!!!
Even with the way Shogun fought..I don’t know if Babalu would beat him again..not to say it can’t be done..but Babalu is not Forrest..in the stand up realm..If Babalu was still in the UFC..I would of liked to see him matched up against..Tito, Shogun, Houston.
I don’t care who he fights! Just get him back in the UFC!
He would own Shogun, Tito, Chuck, Wand (if the other pride fighters are any indication)and he’d probably give “Page” a nice run.
lets get him back in the octogon!
BABALU!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[quote comment=”158215″]We want BABALU back in the UFC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]
I certainly do… one of my favorite fighters.
Wonder who is gonna pick him up.
Off topic but here is GSP on the Hour.
http://www.cbc.ca/thehour/video.php?id=1682
[quote comment=”158416″]So glad Babalu will be back!!! Go for a triangle choke babalu!!! Yeehaw. No one can stop this guy now. Would love to see him VS ORTIZ!!![/quote]
I’d love to see him hold a choke on Cheato for about a week.
Would you guys consider Babalu a top 10 Light Heavy Weight in the UFC? I would like to see Forrest fight him, but Babalu is probably below him now. They’ll probably have Forrest fight a top 5 fighter but a match with Babalu would be exciting. What do you guys think?
25,000 thousand is a lot to be fined for. I dont even like paying 100 for speeding tickets. You gotta pay the penalty I guess.
For all you Babs fans that want Baby back, if the dumbass would have just kept his mouth shut after the fight, things would have turned out different. He got what he deserved. He thinks he’s above the sport itself, sorry Babs your not, so have fun fighting in the shit shows at the Holiday Inn Express.
What’s up UFCmania? What was wrong with my comment? so take the word sh** out. Do you not want me bad mouthing Babs?
Babs should have just kept his big mouth shut, and things would have been different. He got what he deserved. I wanted to say more but UFCmania will not post it.
Bring back Babalu!
[quote comment=”158480″]25,000 thousand is a lot to be fined for. I dont even like paying 100 for speeding tickets. You gotta pay the penalty I guess.[/quote]
That’s an insane amount for a fighter to be fined. That’s half the money he earned. For an NBA star or another profesional sport where an athelete makes like 8 million a year, you’ll see them get fined like $75,000 which is nothing to them. Taking $25,000 from Babalu is a big hit.
hes a joke.
Wicked!
bring him back to the UFC !!
Since all these “big signings” from pride have gotten their buts kicked DW needs to let Babalu back in the UFC so the LHWD doesn’t turn into a never ending TUF episode. lol
[quote post=”3425″] Luppers
Sep 25th, 2007 at 7:51 am Quote this comment
We want BABALU back in the UFC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I certainly do… one of my favorite fighters.[/quote]
i feel the pain…. this is not right… we have all seen worst in the cage… 25g is to much money to take away
Yeah, 25gs is a lot of money to be fined especially considereing the fact that he just moved his family into the U.S.
Shogun did not fight bad……..
Forrest has improved that much that it looked like Rua fought bad..
Forrest is championship material now that he is traing with the Natural.
Shoguns still top 5 trust me…
Forrest just took it to him, like he was supposed to, great game plan, great fight..
way to go Forrest.
[quote comment=”158446″][quote comment=”158215″]We want BABALU back in the UFC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]
I certainly do… one of my favorite fighters.
Wonder who is gonna pick him up.[/quote]
Maybe ‘Crazy Mark Cuban” or Elite XC???
either way someone will sign him, he is a great fighter,,and with the big boot from the UFC should gain ticket sales..
i say bring him back..now that Sho lost they could put it on..
I want to see Shogun vs Babalu
how could you want babalu back in the UFC?? he cant hang with heavy strikers, just look what chuck lidell did to him twice. sure hes good on the ground, but he tries to stand on his feet against the lw strikers and hes done, because all of them have heavy hands.
[quote post=”3425″]Would you guys consider Babalu a top 10 Light Heavy Weight in the UFC? I would like to see Forrest fight him, but Babalu is probably below him now. They’ll probably have Forrest fight a top 5 fighter but a match with Babalu would be exciting. What do you guys think? [/quote]
Babalu is no longer top 10. Before anhilating Heath, he was coming off of back to back KO losses - Liddell and then Jason Lambert.
With Forrest coming off of a win against Shogun, and factoring in Forrest’s popularity, even if Babalu was still around, there is no way the UFC would match the 2 of them up. Forrest’s next fight will be one of two things:
1) Forrest is now the #1 contender and gets a fight against Rampage
or 2) Forrest will be fighting against a Top 5 in a #1 contender fight.
People who think Babalu can’t hang with strikers are sadly mistaken. He just can’t hang with Chuck because of his one punch knockout ability. Babalu against Lambert was just in terrible shape. He absolutely gassed and just wasn’t at 100%.
[quote comment=”158715″]how could you want babalu back in the UFC?? he cant hang with heavy strikers, just look what chuck lidell did to him twice. sure hes good on the ground, but he tries to stand on his feet against the lw strikers and hes done, because all of them have heavy hands.[/quote]
Because I was very entertained by his beating of Heath.
[quote comment=”158715″]how could you want babalu back in the UFC?? he cant hang with heavy strikers, just look what chuck lidell did to him twice. sure hes good on the ground, but he tries to stand on his feet against the lw strikers and hes done, because all of them have heavy hands.[/quote]
He lost 2 in a row, big deal, Chuck is riding a 2 fight losing streak now. That doesn’t mean he isn’t fun to watch. I hope they bring Babalu back and he changes his walk in music to “stranglehold” by Ted Nugent.
Screw the fine. Suspension would of really hurt his money
YA, Line up Babalu vs Bisping. Then we can see who the real utimate fighter is.
Eeeh sorry for the Typo! ULTIMATE
Babalu would kick his ass!!
kid yamamoto [quote comment=”158197″]kid yamamoto put a hurting when he ground and pounded the other guy, even after the ref and everyone else tried to stop him. Babalu is a fighter and that fight was good, should’ve been submission of the night and candidate for fight of the night after babalu rolled through him. give the man his 25k win prize![/quote]
Ya, thats his name……he did it on more then one occasion…..the one fight where he was beating the guy through the ropes and all cornerman had to break it up…..now that deserved 25 G’s.
[quote comment=”158189″]I agree with you PAIR. On the BJ-PULVER incident[/quote]
BJ didn’t pass him out, but more importantly after the fact, he showed and retained his sportsmanlike conduct, and even offered to train with Pulver, the intention is the Huge difference here.
It’s much harder to let an incident like that slide, when it’s some tough guy who is trying to take justice into his own hands by passing his opponent out, becuase he feels he was disrespected.
Does anyone else see my point?
[quote post=”3425″]YA, Line up Babalu vs Bisping. Then we can see who the real utimate fighter is.[/quote]
How do you even come up with such a statement?