We wouldn’t have to ask Mike Swick if you hadn’t ducked out of the rematch w/ him, Leben.

I dont know y, but I am a fan of Leiben’s. Hopefully he can get back on track tonight and get a win. I stopped trying to predict leiben fighs a long time ago because Leiben is to unpredictable. He says that he is in great shape, but who really knows. I’ll tell you 1 thing, if Leiben com es into this fight in great shape, he will b tough to beat.

If Martin comes out to Micheal Jackson tonight, the whole crowd should roll on him.

We wouldn’t have to ask Mike Swick if you hadn’t ducked out of the rematch w/ him, Leben.

If he didnt duck Swick, we would still have to ask him since swick is hurt and wont be fighting tonight. So that was a pretty worthless post… Thanks Noel.

[quote comment="152599"]We wouldn’t have to ask Mike Swick if you hadn’t ducked out of the rematch w/ him, Leben.[/quote]

I was just about to say the same thing. Funny how he threw that in there at the end after he bitched out against fighting swick again. What a CHUMP!! I hope Iron Mike look alike punches a hole through his head. Oh and if Martin doesnt….maybe we should just ask Anderson Silva what thats like shouldnt we Chris.

[quote comment="152599"]We wouldn’t have to ask Mike Swick if you hadn’t ducked out of the rematch w/ him, Leben.[/quote]

..I hope he gets powerslam on his mouth..the Swick fight was bbefore the first TUF show..and he still won’t rematch Mike..it should of been tonights main event..but we should ask leben about that.

“if he wants to stand in front of me and slug, we know how that usually works out. You can ask Mike Swick about that one.”

…or you can ask Anderson Silva about that one.

haha, sorry Stunn, I just noticed after the fact that you beat me to the Silva comment…good MMA fans think alike.

Maybe we should count the fists and knees you took to the head from Silva to see how you handle a stand up war. But do it quickly you only have 43 seconds.

Cheap shot at Mike Swick

I think that tonight main event should be Nate Quarry fight..
dont get me wrong ..din and florian are good but im more looking forward to seing quarry return to the octagon…that will be the fight of the night… im hopin for that anyway

[quote comment="152665"]I think that tonight main event should be Nate Quarry fight..
dont get me wrong ..din and florian are good but im more looking forward to seing quarry return to the octagon…that will be the fight of the night… im hopin for that anyway[/quote]
i disagree…

din/florian is the kind of fight that we dont get treated with very often

[quote comment="152686"][quote comment="152665"]I think that tonight main event should be Nate Quarry fight..
dont get me wrong ..din and florian are good but im more looking forward to seing quarry return to the octagon…that will be the fight of the night… im hopin for that anyway[/quote]
i disagree…

din/florian is the kind of fight that we dont get treated with very often[/quote]

din thomas vs. kenny florian is a great fight, gasman is right, we should all be excited to get to watch two guys with their skills go at each other tonight

“Ask Mike Swick about that one”

Was that quote not a similar reminder of what Chris was accusing Terry Martin of?

“I know I’m a tough guy, so I don’t need to tell everyone and talk all the smack to everybody all the time and keep reassuring myself. It’s kind of like loud bark, small bite”

Coming from Leben, that’s pretty rich…

[quote post="3379"]I dont know y, but I am a fan of Leiben’s. Hopefully he can get back on track tonight and get a win. I stopped trying to predict leiben fighs a long time ago because Leiben is to unpredictable. He says that he is in great shape, but who really knows. I’ll tell you 1 thing, if Leiben com es into this fight in great shape, he will b tough to beat.
If Martin comes out to Micheal Jackson tonight, the whole crowd should roll on him.
We wouldn’t have to ask Mike Swick if you hadn’t ducked out of the rematch w/ him, Leben.
If he didnt duck Swick, we would still have to ask him since swick is hurt and wont be fighting tonight. So that was a pretty worthless post… Thanks Noel. [/quote]

Cool John, I didn’t know that you were a Leben fan. I am too! Ever since he was contantly getting picked up by those punk thugs Bobby SOuthworth and Josh Koscheck. Leben has heart and loves to bang. He has a decent ground game, but he knows that the average UFC audience wants to see a slugfest, so that’s what Chis brings evertime out. Plus, Chris Leben is not scared to fight anyone. Mike Swick is the only one saying that Leben ducked the fight. I actually find that hard to believe. Leben already has a victory over Swick from pre-TUF, and I’ve never heard of Leben ducking anyone, so why would he duck Mike Swick of all people and then sign to fight Terry Martin. I don’t know about you, but I think that Martin is a much tougher opponent for Leben than Swick.

So if anything Chris Leben turned down weak competition for better competition. Martin is rapidly approaching the MW Top 5. And Swick is no where to be found, anywhere. Is he dropping to WW or what? If we thought Jason Black looked sickly as a LW, I am genuinely scared to see what Swick would look like at 170 lbs!

[quote comment="152686"][quote comment="152665"]I think that tonight main event should be Nate Quarry fight..
dont get me wrong ..din and florian are good but im more looking forward to seing quarry return to the octagon…that will be the fight of the night… im hopin for that anyway[/quote]
i disagree…

din/florian is the kind of fight that we dont get treated with very often[/quote]

Agreed. Thomas/Florian is the caliber of fight that normally appears on a ppv. I’m pretty pumped about this one

I hate leben

L – man has T- Rex arms with no tail or teeth. He is strong and can take a punch but I think many have realized since the Silva fight that he can be brought down. Unfortunately, L-Man’s days are numbered.

I love watching the Leben/A. Silva fight just for the very end when they show Koscheck in the crowd on the jumbo-tron pumping his fist after seeing Leben get destroyed. That part is hilarious. Koscheck isn’t a training partner of Silva’s or anything, he was just so stoked to see Leben get his ass handed to him.

Leben is going to get knocked out.

What is he going to say after this fight?

I was injured during training and I could not compete to my fullest abilities.

Have fun with the ICON sport Leben.

[quote comment="152795"]Leben is going to get knocked out.

What is he going to say after this fight?

I was injured during training and I could not compete to my fullest abilities.

Have fun with the ICON sport Leben.[/quote]

No kidding, Leben is an idiot. I’ll never forget Leben’s famous last words before the Silva fight…”He should go back overseas where the compeition is weaker”.

Martin is going to crush him.

You guys need to take it easy on leben. Yeah he got ko’d by silva, but do you seriously see anyone who won’t get wrecked by silva. I think leben is an inmature punk, but I do like to watch him fight, and I think he is going to beat martin tonight.

[quote post="3379"]L – man has T- Rex arms with no tail or teeth. He is strong and can take a punch but I think many have realized since the Silva fight that he can be brought down. Unfortunately, L-Man’s days are numbered.[/quote]

So since Silva KO’d Leben his days are numbered? Well then, I guess the same can be said for Rich Franklin and Nate Marquardt too, right?

[quote comment="152846"][quote post="3379"]L – man has T- Rex arms with no tail or teeth. He is strong and can take a punch but I think many have realized since the Silva fight that he can be brought down. Unfortunately, L-Man’s days are numbered.[/quote]

So since Silva KO’d Leben his days are numbered? Well then, I guess the same can be said for Rich Franklin and Nate Marquardt too, right?[/quote]
It wasn’t the loss to Silva that will do him in; it’s the consecutive losses to MacDonald and Starnes that will, assuming Martin hands him a third straight L. Of course, if Leben wins he can probably get a decent new contract. He won’t get crazy f-you money, but a good 3-fight deal is reasonable.

[quote comment="152846"][quote post="3379"]L – man has T- Rex arms with no tail or teeth. He is strong and can take a punch but I think many have realized since the Silva fight that he can be brought down. Unfortunately, L-Man’s days are numbered.[/quote]

So since Silva KO’d Leben his days are numbered? Well then, I guess the same can be said for Rich Franklin and Nate Marquardt too, right?[/quote]

..everyone currently in the middle weight division is screwed..with Anderson Silva at the realm.

After Chris Leben loses this fight, I heard Dana White is establishing a league specifically for guys like Leben. He is planning on creating the BFC which will have its first live show in July 2008.

The Bar Room Fighting Championsip will take place in numerous hick towns across the country and pit together guys who throw a heavy punch but are not well rounded fighters. Odds makers in vegas are already labeling Leben a 3-1 favorite to win the first Grand Prix Tournament.

Hey at least he’ll be a champ somewhere !

Kevin “cuts” Kelly

[quote comment="152846"][quote post="3379"]L – man has T- Rex arms with no tail or teeth. He is strong and can take a punch but I think many have realized since the Silva fight that he can be brought down. Unfortunately, L-Man’s days are numbered.[/quote]

So since Silva KO’d Leben his days are numbered? Well then, I guess the same can be said for Rich Franklin and Nate Marquardt too, right?[/quote]
It’s the losses to J-Mac and Starnes that have his days numbered. A loss tonight to Martin would be three straight for him, and since he has shown no improvement since entering the UFC, they will be happy to let him walk.

And he seemed so promising upon entering the UFC. He won his first 5 fights before being slapped silly by Anderson Silva

[quote comment="152862"][quote comment="152846"][quote post="3379"]L – man has T- Rex arms with no tail or teeth. He is strong and can take a punch but I think many have realized since the Silva fight that he can be brought down. Unfortunately, L-Man’s days are numbered.[/quote]

So since Silva KO’d Leben his days are numbered? Well then, I guess the same can be said for Rich Franklin and Nate Marquardt too, right?[/quote]

..everyone currently in the middle weight division is screwed..with Anderson Silva at the realm.[/quote]
I think everybody overhypes Anderson as this untouchable man that will never be defeated nor hurt.

I think Terry Martin could stand and strike with Anderson, and possibly hurt Anderson enough to win.

Remember, Martin Kampmann and Drew McFedries are still lingering, and I think McFedries could knock out anderson. I think Kampmann can submit Silva.

[quote comment="152728"]“I know I’m a tough guy, so I don’t need to tell everyone and talk all the smack to everybody all the time and keep reassuring myself. It’s kind of like loud bark, small bite”

Coming from Leben, that’s pretty rich…[/quote]

Exactly… Leben taking the high road huh. what a friggin joke. He has got a load of maturing to do before he is ever to be perceived as a ‘professional’. This is exactly why people like to see him get pounded, because he is a loud mouth.

[quote comment="152885"][quote comment="152862"][quote comment="152846"][quote post="3379"]L – man has T- Rex arms with no tail or teeth. He is strong and can take a punch but I think many have realized since the Silva fight that he can be brought down. Unfortunately, L-Man’s days are numbered.[/quote]

So since Silva KO’d Leben his days are numbered? Well then, I guess the same can be said for Rich Franklin and Nate Marquardt too, right?[/quote]

..everyone currently in the middle weight division is screwed..with Anderson Silva at the realm.[/quote]
I think everybody overhypes Anderson as this untouchable man that will never be defeated nor hurt.

I think Terry Martin could stand and strike with Anderson, and possibly hurt Anderson enough to win.

Remember, Martin Kampmann and Drew McFedries are still lingering, and I think McFedries could knock out anderson. I think Kampmann can submit Silva.[/quote]

..I disagree..I think all these aboved named fighter’s would be victimized by Silva..Dan Henderson at 185 would be a problem..Paulo Fihlo would be a problem..even the last guy to beat him Ryo C..would make things intresting for the Champ.. Any one can lose at any time..but when I look at the current UCF MW division..and the Champ..the contenders a are sheep to Anderson Silva..and he stays hungry..he still feels he must prove himself more..Silva has the momentom and the edge..like that old Rocky proverb ” Eye of the Tiger “..when I look at Silva..he has that look..not his opponents..even if the chose to come with the song..who(Nate M ) are they trying to Kid..The former UFC MW Champ..that was suppose to be next big thing is a Ring Card Girl next to Silva. The next UFC MW Champ..unless Silva retires..will be new blood.

[quote comment="152833"]You guys need to take it easy on leben. Yeah he got ko’d by silva, but do you seriously see anyone who won’t get wrecked by silva. I think leben is an inmature punk, but I do like to watch him fight, and I think he is going to beat martin tonight.[/quote]

You also forgot he got chocked out by a man with the nickname “The Athlete”.

I meant choked, but oh well you get the point.

I think L – Man cracked when silva hit him. I think he is a good fighter who needs a mental edge to stay intense. My thoughts about the t -rex word picture is that he has to get close, because of his short arms, to do some damage. His subsequent fights show that others can take him and his edge is gone. I like the crippler – to bad, his days are numbered….

Hey, Martin, watch out for the flying knee! Ouch!

[quote comment="152885"][quote comment="152862"][quote comment="152846"][quote post="3379"]L – man has T- Rex arms with no tail or teeth. He is strong and can take a punch but I think many have realized since the Silva fight that he can be brought down. Unfortunately, L-Man’s days are numbered.[/quote]

So since Silva KO’d Leben his days are numbered? Well then, I guess the same can be said for Rich Franklin and Nate Marquardt too, right?[/quote]

..everyone currently in the middle weight division is screwed..with Anderson Silva at the realm.[/quote]
I think everybody overhypes Anderson as this untouchable man that will never be defeated nor hurt.

I think Terry Martin could stand and strike with Anderson, and possibly hurt Anderson enough to win.

Remember, Martin Kampmann and Drew McFedries are still lingering, and I think McFedries could knock out anderson. I think Kampmann can submit Silva.[/quote]

I’ll agree that a good shot from McFedries, Kampmann, or Martin could put Silva away. But Kampmann submitting Silva? You honestly think Kampmann could do something the likes of Newton, Horn, Okami, and Marquardt couldn’t? No chance in hell does that ever happen

This is a toss up fight. It will be over in the first round

Can anybody give the man some respect now????????????????????

dont know why i like wathcing chris fight , but it just works.
you cant say that he isnt the epitimy of UFC

I’ve always liked Leban (apart from the pissing on the bed), win or lose the guy is an entertainer and he always puts on a good show in the octagan and sometimes thats whats important as well as winning. If he does want to get any further he definately needs to develop some more skills. A 6 pack is not a neccessary requirement of a good MMA fighter as some seem to think.
What is the real story behind him not fighting Mike Swick, I mean ducking Swick to take on Martin is not exactly going for the easy win. And without doubt Martin will be hitting a lot harder the Swick would have done.

Leben was in great shape for the first time in his career. Good for him. It looks like the move to Hawaii has really payed off. Everyone was talking about Martin’s one punch power. The highlights of the fight were Chris Leben throwing combinations, and HIS one punch knockout of Martin!

Good for Leben. I am very happy to see him back on track. I have been a big fan of Leben since TUF 1. Out of all of those fighters in that season, from what I can see, Leben and Forrest have the two biggest hearts.

Yeah, leben was by far in the best shape of his career, and seemed alot more focused. He needed that win badly, and to beat a rising star like martin the way he did I think really shows that he does belong in the ufc. He just needs to keep training hard, keep learning new skills & stay focused. Good for him, I always enjoy watching him fight, even if he is out of shape.

looks like a lot of you are eating some Crow now.

[quote post="3379"]looks like a lot of you are eating some Crow now. [/quote]

Not me. I’ve ALWAYS been a fan of Chris Leben since the very beginning of TUF 1, and I have stated it MANY times.

I have only just seen the Leban fight, I’m from England and it hasn’t aired yet, it might do in a couple months. I found the whole show to download and only found out who won a few minutes ago. Nice one Leban, I would watch him over Sherk or a lot of the more skilled fighters any day of the week. Damn that was a good fight. Again he may never where the belt but he always makes the UFC worth watching, and that reason alone is why they should keep this guy around.

Chris Leman did show he can stand up against the heavy-hitters; He made that very evident tonight. The recent losses has put more disipline in his determination to stay up there with the best. Great fight Chris Leban, you were a champion tonight!

[quote comment="152599"]We wouldn’t have to ask Mike Swick if you hadn’t ducked out of the rematch w/ him, Leben.[/quote]

I could care less what people say about Leben. After meeting him and training under his coaching at ICON Fitness here in Honolulu.I can honestly say he has integrity, respect for others and has a fighters heart. Regardless of who he fights next win or lose he is still an asset to the sport.