Mania, you should also give props to John, for finding this out. He had mentioned it yesterday in a couple of threads.

That’s real..Crop Cop in the pic looks like father time is knocking on his door.

LOL, I was just going to say that it looks like Cro Cop aged at least 15 years during his fight with Kongo. Geez. My great-grandfather looks younger and better - even after getting kicked in the nuts. Its not like the nuts are located on the face, or if you get kicked in the nuts, the wrinkles transfer to your face.

Damn why does he look so old. He’s only 33 I don’t know why he think’s he’s too old to fight. Sure there’s a lot of young guys fighting now, but look at Randy. He’s got Crocop by 15 years and he’s the champ.

I’m sure every fighter feels that way when they’re getting beaten down. Hope he hangs around. I think he still has some fight left in him. Hard to continue after the knees and the rib.

At this point I dont really care what cro cop is gonna do. He has to be The BIGGEST disapointment in UFC History.

Thanks Mike!

They should feed him a couple of so/so fighters to lift up his spirits a bit and give him some confidence. I still think he could be the best heavy weight in the game. Have him drop down to 205 and kick the shit out of Bisbing????

man, this guy has some serious mental roadblocks to get past. it sucks to see such a talented striker not being able to “get off”. he was a serious force in pride, and if it wasn’t for fedor and big nog he would have been HW champ for a long time. i hope he gets his shit together though ~ he is the only guy i’ve ever seen hurt fedor. maybe ironhead fujita too.

come on Cro Cop whoop some ass in the cage!

[quote comment=”151686″]At this point I dont really care what cro cop is gonna do. He has to be The BIGGEST disapointment in UFC History.

Thanks Mike![/quote]
Seriously. After hearing about him coming to the UFC I watched a bunch of videos on YouTube. I thought he was nuts, with the high kicks and all. The match against Sanchez was a joke. He should have ko’d him in a minute or less. He got KTFO against Gonzaga, and did absolultely nothing against Kongo. I’m not taking anything away from Kongo. I think he’s a solid fighter and he’s one of my favorite heavyweights. He did what he needed to do to get a decisive win and did it easily. I don’t think that Crocop threw more than 2 punches the entire fight. Sure he broke his rib, but people get injured in fights all the time. I don’t care if he retires after watching his last “performance”

It’s funny how at 33 Cro Cop is old. Randy Couture had his first fight in the Octagon at age 33. That was just the start of his career not the end. Chuck, Dan Henderson, both very productive well past 33. The difference with those three is that they evolved their fighting styles with time and Cro Cop is still one dimensional.

Cro Cop could have stop Congo easy if he came out and said forget the strikes, shot for a leg and took him down because Congo’s ground game is suspect. But stubborn Cro Cop thinks he’s gonna sprawl and brawl and knock everybody out.

He should quit if he’s not going to become more well rounded because the Heavyweight divsion now doesn’t have many Eddie Sanchez’s

Cro Cop could have beat the shit out of Kongo but he just needs to get his head in the game. Hang in there Cro Cop!

I was really disappointed with the last fight. Kongo looked great and put plainly Mirko got his shit handed to him. While I really want to see Cro Cop fight again. None of us want to see him tarnish his legacy by becoming another Ken Shamrock at the end of his career. Its just a shame that most American fans have never gotten to see him at his best. A lot of his earlier fights are truly impressive.

And John Mirko hasn’t lived up to our expectations for him yet, but it has proved that the Heavyweight division in the UFC was much more competitive than people had previously thought. Has he been disappointing.. yes, but the biggest disappointment ever… not even close.

krocop should of fought orlowski that would of been some match. he should get the chuck liddell vs wanda silva urgent. why the fuck does chuck have to fight jardine??? sopposing chuck gets knocked out????????

when wanda signed the contract with dana he said hell fight anyone so what was the problem fighting chuck straight away.. ]

now hes put wanda to fight till xmas december, what a waiste of time. with the people killing to see wanda coming in and now he aint fighting till xmas…
thir will be no chuck vs wanda.. if chuck gets knocked out.

dana white has his favoutites and waistes time to make his own money.

randy couture is dana’s favourite so he wont bring in fedor yet?? fedor is dying to come into ufc, but dana as usaull is waisting time…
fedor is an animal and will kill randy. and kick and rock ufc to pieces. so too will shogun..and of course wanda. but u see dana wants chuck to get his confidence back. cus he knows wanda is a killer.

im pissed at ufc at the moment. fights take too long. bring back pride or K1.

Violent Mike and everyone else, I found this cro cop news yesterday on ufcbetting.blogspot.com. This site lists threads from UFC mania, MMA on tap, and MMA HQ and it will connect you to the previously mentioned sites. I never directly go to UFCmania.com, I log on to this site and I click on the threads listed under UFCMANIA.com to blog. Check this site out, not only will it give you all the news from the previously mentioned websites, but it lists the betting odds for all the upcomming events. Its a real cool site, I would suggest doing your blogging from that site instead of logging on directly to UFCMANIA.com

Check the site out at ufcbetting.blogspot.com

I have to disagree that Kongo looked great in this fight. He did what he needed to do to win but did not provide any evidence that he is anywhere near to deserving a title shot. I seriously doubt he could get past Arlovski & would not make it past the 2nd round against Couture. If not for the broken rib Cro Cop probably finishes Kongo or at least earns a decision victory. Mirko will probably never be in contention for the title but could still be an entertaining fighter & I’d pay to see his next fight considering his past. He has to change his entrance music though. Anyone who comes to the ring playing Duran Duran deserves to get his ass kicked!

[quote comment=”151717″]I was really disappointed with the last fight. Kongo looked great and put plainly Mirko got his shit handed to him. While I really want to see Cro Cop fight again. None of us want to see him tarnish his legacy by becoming another Ken Shamrock at the end of his career. Its just a shame that most American fans have never gotten to see him at his best. A lot of his earlier fights are truly impressive.

And John Mirko hasn’t lived up to our expectations for him yet, but it has proved that the Heavyweight division in the UFC was much more competitive than people had previously thought. Has he been disappointing.. yes, but the biggest disappointment ever… not even close.[/quote]

For the amount of money that Dana has invested in cro cop, and how dominating cro cop was before comming to the UFC. I would have to say that he is the most dissapointing signee of the UFC. Mirko is only 33 years old, he isnt too old, He is just flat out dissapointing.

[quote post=”3364″]It’s funny how at 33 Cro Cop is old. Randy Couture had his first fight in the Octagon at age 33. That was just the start of his career not the end. Chuck, Dan Henderson, both very productive well past 33. The difference with those three is that they evolved their fighting styles with time and Cro Cop is still one dimensional. [/quote]

When considering how ‘old’ a fighter is, two things must be considered, their age, AND the amount of punishments and beatings they have taken to thier head/brain. The human head was not designed to be repeatedly hit with overhand rights and high kicks. Many boxers are forced into early retirement simply from the amount of damage done to their head and brain over thier career.

Before competing in MMA, Cro Cop competed in K1, which is kickboxing, so it is obviously more brutal than just plain old boxing. Plus, the hands are padded, but the legs are not. So before Cro Cop was in PRIDE, his head and brain had gone through some big time punishment while competing in Kickboxing. Fighters even take beatings during training, not just ‘during the fight.’

On the other hand, Randy Couture and Dan Henderson were both GrecoRoman wrestlers before the UFC. GrecoRoman wrestling is also a very high level combat sport, but there is no striking involved (does that go against the definition of combat sport - I’m not sure). Therefore, Randy and Dan were not taking beatings to the dome-piece on a daily basis before coming to the UFC.

This has a lot to do with why Randy is still able to compete at this age - simply put, he has not taken the same amount of punishment to the head and brain as a wrestler that a boxer, kickboxer, or MMA fighter would. Just about all of today’s up and coming stars of MMA began their MMA training at an early age. Much earlier than the stars of today, and yesteryear. Hopefully this does not lead to the early retirements of some of our favorite fighters. For example, I can’t imagine Leonard Garcia going through 5 fights a year against Roger Huerta (assumming the fights go the same as their first fight) for 15 years. He would probably be a vegetable by the age of 27.

But the topic of conversation is why Cro Cop looks so old. My post could help explain why Cro Cop FEELS so old, but how he got to looking like an Albino California Raisin is anybody’s guess. Wow, is he wrinkly for 33!

he,s just used to the ring. he also needs to work on his ground game he has more talent than tito and tito just signed a big deal and tito is a punk

Mania forgot to tell everyone this is a pic of his great great great great great … great great great great grand father. …. lol

kongo should of been disqualfied for his low blows after the nut shots mirko was’t the same

You guy’s need to calm down on the Randy’s 44 and Cro cop is 33 and shouldn’t be complaining about “being to old.” You guy’s have to remember between K1, Pride and the UFC, Cro Cop has fought about 60 fights. That’s a buttload of fights. I think there is a reason why he looks so run down. Not to mention how busy his personal life is.

If Couture or Liddell was being kneed in the balls like that you can bet your ass points would have been deducted.Cro Cop had every reason to get upset during that fight. Big John wasn’t doing his job.

Cro Cop justs needs some time off.

One other thing….just because he lost two fights doesn’t mean his career is over. Cro Cop has provided us with alot of great fights and great highlight reels over the years. Show the man some respect.

Alot is being made of this comment that, personally I feel isn’t there to be made.Mirko swore and felt down in the heat of a fight being both down and in pain no doubt.

We all say things we don’t mean, I don’t buy the argument he is only in it for the money, or the view he is disrespectful…christ people say “f**k this” when asked to do things at work but they don’t hold that view permanently again heat of the moment.

He just needs some time to sort his head out and get a win under his belt. If he went on to win his next 3 fights he would be back in the title picture (obviously depending on manner of victory) and if he could be then persuaded to sign for three further fights it would not be imrpobable to believe the second one could be a title shot.

And after that anything is possible….
His next fight will be the make or break….His last one just made everything from now on even more crucial, and the worry for Mirko is seemingly his inability to handle pressure.

maybe most fighters figure out what really needs to beat crocop,
watch for the left kick & kongo done a great job blocking all cropcop’s kick,mirko’s weapon is lethal,one clean hit then you’re done,
but i think most fighter learned how to neutralize it as time goes by,
but still im pissed of regarding knees to the nuts. & rgrding broken ribs,just watch BJ penn vs matt huges 2,BJ wasn’t the real BJ anymore when he got his rib broken. so same as crocop

Cro Cop will be back. He is too good to continue losing like this. Fans would still pay to see him fight the loser of Sylvia vs. Vera. I know for sure fans would pay to see Cro Cop take on Arlovski, too.

One other thing….just because he lost two fights doesn’t mean his career is over. Cro Cop has provided us with alot of great fights and great highlight reels over the years. Show the man some respect.

i respect CC a great deal, and i’m sure most people on this site do too. i think we just had so high of expectations when we heard he signed that we can’t help being a little dissapointed.

but on a good note, he did beat Sanchez (he better of) he lost to GG by brutal head kick that would of KOd pretty much anyone, and he lost a decision to CK after a broken rib and a couple nut shots.

i doubt he’s done ~ he just ran into a little bad luck. if the tide turns and he hits a run of good fortune, i’m sure we’ll all be able to enjoy a couple more highlight reel KOs (of his opponents, not him :P) and he could definately be right back in the mix in HW with a 2 or 3 fight win streak, which i’m sure would make him and DW want to extend his contract.

CroCop’s problem is strategy, everyone has figured his out and how to defend against it to the point that if he doesn’t change it then his beatings are just going to continue.

I was under the impression that he said this after the knees to the nuts, as if he was trying to get Big John to do something about that

[quote comment=”151785″]One other thing….just because he lost two fights doesn’t mean his career is over. Cro Cop has provided us with alot of great fights and great highlight reels over the years. Show the man some respect.

i respect CC a great deal, and i’m sure most people on this site do too. i think we just had so high of expectations when we heard he signed that we can’t help being a little dissapointed.

but on a good note, he did beat Sanchez (he better of) he lost to GG by brutal head kick that would of KOd pretty much anyone, and he lost a decision to CK after a broken rib and a couple nut shots.

i doubt he’s done ~ he just ran into a little bad luck. if the tide turns and he hits a run of good fortune, i’m sure we’ll all be able to enjoy a couple more highlight reel KOs (of his opponents, not him :P) and he could definately be right back in the mix in HW with a 2 or 3 fight win streak, which i’m sure would make him and DW want to extend his contract.[/quote]

There is no way the UFC is extending this guys contract. He will officially go down as the biggest bust the company has ever signed!

Dana White will see if CC is still a marketable fighter and what division, CC won’t fight probably til Spring 08 if ever. He is kind of small for Heavyweight with no wrestling ability, and lightheavy weight is too stacked, but there could be some exciting matches CC vs Chuck, Rampage, Bisping, Tito. I think AA is in the same boat, I would mind seeing CC vs AA in December.

The thing is if we are talking marketable as in sales and ppv draws it doesn’t matter how many times he gets k.o’ed he will bring in buys so I feel Dana would extend his contract.

[quote comment=”151814″]The thing is if we are talking marketable as in sales and ppv draws it doesn’t matter how many times he gets k.o’ed he will bring in buys so I feel Dana would extend his contract.[/quote]

Why would he bring in buys? The guy had almost no name recognition in North America before he came to the UFC, and since then has been walloped twice. The casual fans aren’t going to think much of him now.

[quote comment=”151719″]krocop should of fought orlowski that would of been some match.[/quote]lol that has to be the worst spelling of arlovski and cro cop I’ve ever seen.

I think its funny that you posted an OLD picture of Cro Cop from after the GG fight. Could have picked a different pic and not insulted a legend…. All you haters can take a hike.

I just wish everyone would stop saying “suspect.” Every damn thing that’s questionable is “suspect” now that one person said it…funny.

I too hope Cro Cop can get his head right… he still has fights on his contract so I don’t think he can just “quit” yet.

At the end of the day Mirko is still “crocop” and that will never change.
I think he could use some time off and could stand to bump down a weight class while in the ufc.

[quote comment=”151845″]I think its funny that you posted an OLD picture of Cro Cop from after the GG fight. Could have picked a different pic and not insulted a legend…. All you haters can take a hike.[/quote]

Good point.

[quote comment=”151717″]Mirko got his shit handed to him.[/quote]

That’s pretty disgusting.

I’m confused about what to think of Cro Cop now. I can understand that if his rib is broken he pretty much looses his leg kicks since they all come from the hips, which just about neutralizes Mirko since he’s a kicker above all else. But there is something else that bugs me about CC’s octagon skills.

After the Gonzaga fight CC said he was training in a cage, learning elbows and elbow defense, but when he started fighting I saw none of that. It was the same ol’ Cro Cop in there with Kongo. I was really looking forward to seeing Mirko throw some elbows but I don’t think he even threw one. I guarantee you that Shogun and Wandi are really looking forward to being able to elbow people in fights. Elbows are a huge part of muay thai, so I think the Chuteboxe guys will transition easier into the UFC than CC, whose kickboxing style is better suited for the ring.

In my opinion, if Cro Cop doesn’t start expanding his stand up and at least learn some of the rudiments of the g&p game (a la Ortiz), he’s done. Not because he isn’t a great fighter, but because his style just doesn’t work in the cage. I still think Mirko is one of the best HW in the world, but his style is the worst for fighting in the octagon, under UFC rules.

I don’t know how many of you are fighters or train in muay thai, but elbows are devastating. I’d rather take a soccer kick or a head stomp than a well placed elbow from a good muay thai fighter. Mirko gets in the octagon and just eats elbows like they’re full of vitamins. If he doesn’t do something about this soon, his career in the UFC will be finished.

[quote comment=”151744″][quote post=”3364″][/quote]This has a lot to do with why Randy is still able to compete at this age - simply put, he has not taken the same amount of punishment to the head and brain as a wrestler that a boxer, kickboxer, or MMA fighter would. Just about all of today’s up and coming stars of MMA began their MMA training at an early age. Much earlier than the stars of today, and yesteryear. Hopefully this does not lead to the early retirements of some of our favorite fighters. For example, I can’t imagine Leonard Garcia going through 5 fights a year against Roger Huerta (assumming the fights go the same as their first fight) for 15 years. He would probably be a vegetable by the age of 27.[/quote]

Excellent point, ViolentMike: “The first MMA fan to grace the cover of Sports Illustrated!!”

[quote comment=”151845″]I think its funny that you posted an OLD picture of Cro Cop from after the GG fight. Could have picked a different pic and not insulted a legend…. All you haters can take a hike.[/quote]

Does it really matter whether it was taken before or after the fight? You can primp his face with make-up all you want, but his fighting style will always be outdated…He’s getting absolutely exploited! I can only imagine Dana White taking out his frustrations out on his poor peons.

A man who has a couple consecutive losses, with as many respectable fights as Crocop, will continue to draw a crowd and make money for the business of mma. Shamrock drew a record breaking crowd in Tito vs Shamrock 3. Even if Liddell loses, people would still pay to see him redeem there after. Who is going to tune in to the next bout of Silva vs Franklin? A sh*t load. Not only because Anderson is great, but it’s b/c people know that Franklin had respectable past fights. I could go on with the list of ‘must watch’ fighters, regardless of there record, but you get the point.

[quote post=”3364″]Who is going to tune in to the next bout of Silva vs Franklin? [/quote]

The reason I will pay to watch that event is because I am a die-hard fan of mma, and I order every UFC PPV, so the fact that the card sucks, doesn’t change the fact that I will be buying it.

However, if I was more of a casual fan, there is NO WAY that I would order that PPV!!!!!!!!!

Okay, numerous points here.

1. That picture was after his loss to Gonzaga.

2. Crocop is old in fighter terms, at least mentally. Lengthy K-1 and Pride career. Check out his career, tonnes of fights.

3. I would say he is moreso old mentally than physically. Physically he still has the means to do it.

4. His heart isn’t in it anymore.

5. I didn’t buy into this whole, ‘I’d hate to be Mirko’s next opponent after that loss, he always comes back stronger’. Not the case, look at him against Kanehara an absolute can albeit he won the fight.

6. Like 4 he already expressed his desire to retire before he even inked the UFC contract.

7. He never wanted to fight in the UFC but the money was too good. (Not actually a fact, just my honest opinion, apologies for stating it like a fact.)

8. His skill level in terms of standup is way down. Bonjasky and Yvel said he was at like 40% skill wise of his K-1 days.

9. CC at 80% of his K-1 standup up skill cleans out the division, that’s according to his former coach.

10. His training was all wrong, again according to his old coach. Too many different coaches and yes men. Trained for brute strength (weights extensively) rather than working on explosive power and plyometrics. In other words his old coach said he was fit and in great shape for something, but not for mma.

If he is to have one last crack at it I’d say bring back his old coach, see a sports shrink, take 6 months off and come out to some bitchin’ music and fight like his son Ivan’s life depended on it.

If his heart really isn’t in it, I hope he does the right thing and walks away from it all it’s not like he needs the money really.

dont now what to think about cro cop, wish someone could explain. it has to be mental, what a waste!

Even if he doesn’t quit, I’m not sure I want to keep watching him. I just feel bad afterwards. What the hell happened? Its like, all of the sudden, everyone figured him out.

I can’t rag on the guy too much because I didn’t watch or order too much pride when he was over there cleaning house…I do have to say though…he’s stinking up the joint here. The Gonzaga loss is pretty legitimate because I say he holds the belt within the next year and has it for some time..But the loss to Kongo? Yeah he might of had a broken rib or kneed in the ball sack a few times…but where is his devastating kicks and strikes? He should of ended that fight well before his balls got shattered….And this pic…He looks like an old, retired KGB member…

Cro Cop’s next fight…. Cro Cop 235 lbs vs Father Time 245 lbs. Father Time defeats Cro Cop 35 seconds in to the first round via Old Man Fatigue.

I love how everyone calls out Cro Cop because of two bad performances…give the guy a break. He’s coming off the worst KO loss in his career, then fights a guy who breaks his ribs in the first round….having broken ribs before, I can’t imagine what it’d be like to try and fend off a 240lb guy trying to kill you. Fighters win, fighters lose, and most of the time it takes a few loses to get your head straight. Cro Cop isn’t gonna quit, he’s just not mentally fit for competition right now, he needs some R&R back home, and then he needs to fly over to Canuck land with GSP and have some one on one with a shrink.

And everyone who claims Cro Cop sucks, look at his Pride fights for god’s sake….complete domination unless he’s fighting Fedor, Big Nog, and Hunt. I don’t count the Randleman loss either, simply because he choked the hell outta him in the rematch.

ViolentMike I think you were the first to point out the lengthy stints he has had in other org’s very good point.

However when you look at Jeremy Horn he makes 60 fights seem like the number for novices, he has had over 100 fights with his last being just this month. However I do agree that being in K-1 and then Pride will batter your brain in Cro Cops defense.

I think his time is done, when you are doubting yourself it takes that edge away from you, you no longer train, think or fight the same way.

I don’t know who has bigger problems Cro Cop or Tanner!

A broken rib totally imobilizes your body. I have great respect for him for not quitting and finishing the fight. I mean to stand up there and take even more punishment is incredible. I have more respect for Cro Cop now. And I lost respect for Kongo who I used to be a fan of, if you have someone who cant move or get any power in his kicks and punches and you cant knock them out. I dont know what to tell you.

Oh and by the way rather than calling a man who has given us some of the greatest fights in MMA history a dissapointment wether true or not, we should focus on and thank him for the years he has put his body through punishment for our entertainment.

His only mistake is that of many great fighters of yester not adapting with changes in the sport, in short he hasn’t evolved while MMA is evolving everyday.

does anyone else get the feeling Joe Rogan has a “hate one” for Cro Cop? All fighters lose and go through bad times. after the GG loss Rogan was on him in interviews. now I am sure Rogan hears lots of other fighters talk in the ring. Why pick this one to talk about in the press? just a thought.

[quote post=”3364″]ViolentMike I think you were the first to point out the lengthy stints he has had in other org’s very good point.
However when you look at Jeremy Horn he makes 60 fights seem like the number for novices, he has had over 100 fights with his last being just this month. However I do agree that being in K-1 and then Pride will batter your brain in Cro Cops defense. [/quote]

Yes I was, thanks Holdin Ropes.

And to add upon Jeremy Horn. I think that the two most amazing things about Horn is that in 1999, he had 21 fights and went 20-1 including a win over Chuck Liddell. ALSO, prior to his rematch with Chuck, he was NEVER knocked out in over 90 professional MMA fights. To quote Joe Rogan, “THAT’S INSANE!!!!!!”

Either way Crocop will fight one more time, Wandi lost twice and he is coming back, but if he looses the third time, Dana White will terminate his contract.

Guys, let’s not count out Cro Cop. Let’s look at Hermes Franca. He lost a few fights in a row. He got his skills together and fought Sherk for the title. If Franca can fight for the title in a stacked division; Cro Cop can definately make it, too.

[quote comment=”151935″]Oh and by the way rather than calling a man who has given us some of the greatest fights in MMA history a dissapointment wether true or not, we should focus on and thank him for the years he has put his body through punishment for our entertainment.

His only mistake is that of many great fighters of yester not adapting with changes in the sport, in short he hasn’t evolved while MMA is evolving everyday.[/quote]

well said my man, you made me feel bad.

[quote comment=”151962″]Guys, let’s not count out Cro Cop. Let’s look at Hermes Franca. He lost a few fights in a row. He got his skills together and fought Sherk for the title. If Franca can fight for the title in a stacked division; Cro Cop can definately make it, too.[/quote]
the only problem is the ufc is not gone to pay his top dollar price to keep fighting franca was able to stay bc the ufc did not mind paying his 8 thousand. i like to watch cro cop but he is no longer an A level fighter so the ufc will not pay his as so.

Very Sad for mma

not only was he in K1, and pride getting messed up, he was in the Special Forces in anti-terrorism in his country, i’m sure that along with serving in politics took years off his life! look at the majority of his losses. they all came from MONSTER hits (gonzaga, hoost, randleman). cut the guy some slack. the last i checked i had cro cop winning the first round against Kongo. even with broken ribs he was throwing that high kick on someone like 6′5 in Kongo. he did take kongo down at the end of the first and was giving him some GNP but then the round ended. round 2 happens he breaks his rib and catches like 4 or 5 vicious dead on low blows

Well at least he broke a rib, and didnt suck just because. I expect an Eddie Sanchez beatdown in his next fight.

I would hate to see one of the most devastating strikers leave the game but I think his time might have past

Cro Cop looks like he is 50 years old in that picture.

Maybe it is time to hang it up for Cro Cop. I for one will miss his fights. It is sad that he never truly adjusted to or atleast had some good fights in the Octagon. I will hope he makes one more go and hopefully gets it right. Farewell, to a great MMA fighter!

QUESTION: Where is FEDOR? Who was it the Swore Fedor has signed. “Relax” they said. Lossing Cro Cop and seeing him a fraction of him former self leaves me wanting some good news! Was it you PhilNQY? HW division needs Fedor and Fedor needs the UFC to stay the best!

I have been a huge fan of UFC but something about cro cop i just can’t get enough of watching him when he fights was it in K1 pride and ufc, just something about him and i don’t care if he lost two in a row, everyone has their ups and downs. I would pay to see cro cop fight for sure at any price. I hope he doesn’t quit

[quote comment=”151935″]Oh and by the way rather than calling a man who has given us some of the greatest fights in MMA history a dissapointment wether true or not, we should focus on and thank him for the years he has put his body through punishment for our entertainment.

His only mistake is that of many great fighters of yester not adapting with changes in the sport, in short he hasn’t evolved while MMA is evolving everyday.[/quote]

couldn’t have said it better myself.

[quote comment=”151830″][quote comment=”151719″]krocop should of fought orlowski that would of been some match.[/quote]lol that has to be the worst spelling of arlovski and cro cop I’ve ever seen.[/quote]

Word.

Hes got a busted rib and took a couple cup checks seriously he did pretty good considering..

And yea how did you manage the spelling on that one…although not gonna lie that would have been a badass matchup..the one i was really hoping for…

[quote comment=”151711″]It’s funny how at 33 Cro Cop is old. Randy Couture had his first fight in the Octagon at age 33. That was just the start of his career not the end. Chuck, Dan Henderson, both very productive well past 33. The difference with those three is that they evolved their fighting styles with time and Cro Cop is still one dimensional.
[/quote]

Yeah, like how Chuck can KO you with the right or the right.

Haha Chuck is very one dimensional. But on CC, I feel for him man, it sucks, he just pplain out lost it, simple as that.

[quote comment=”151958″]Either way Crocop will fight one more time, Wandi lost twice and he is coming back, but if he looses the third time, Dana White will terminate his contract.[/quote]

No he won’t.

[quote comment=”151750″]kongo should of been disqualified for his low blows after the nut shots mirko wasn’t the same[/quote]

Thank you, one of the few people that state this. All I hear is how great Kongo looked, those frickin knees to the balls didn’t look good.

Kongo landed TWO illegal hits, he should have been disqualified.
People were appalled with the taps that GSP gave to Matt Hughes, but these were straight shots, right in the baby maker.

I AGREE WITH SOME EARLIER COMMENTS THERE IS ALWAYS 205

[quote comment=”151674″]Damn why does he look so old. He’s only 33 I don’t know why he think’s he’s too old to fight. Sure there’s a lot of young guys fighting now, but look at Randy. He’s got Crocop by 15 years and he’s the champ.[/quote]

I think what Cro Cop needs is some time away from the game. When it starts becoming a job and not a passion, that’s when you get into trouble.

I agree 6 months off with his old coach. The way to beat CC is to Straight after him with your hands up. he is the opposite of chuck, chuck has success backpedling.

Let him at herring.

mirko could still be a top level fighter

perhaps an octagon is not the best place for him to compete

perhaps his skill set (pure striker) doesnt transfer well at all

in a pride ring without elbows it seemed pretty easy for guys to get back to their feet with minimal damage if they wer traken down

perhaps he needs to go fight somewhere else

k1 or bodog vs fedor if both were free agents would be a huge match regardless of if mirkos lost a couple

how many fights are meant to be left on his ufc contract ?

i seem to recall a 6 fight deal so 3 left unless dana pays him off and terminates

i still think there are some sdecent fights in ufc for him
tim sylvia, arlovski , chuck and wanderlei

im sure chuck would happily waive the weight limit and goto HW to fight CC

kongo wasn’t impressive at all in this fight! he looked like a killer against christian welsch but his fight with carmello marerro was just emberassing. his ground game looked a little better against crocop but randy couture is an EXTREMELY bad match up for cheick. he couldn’t stop randy’s takedown for his life!

It really makes me sick how quick fans can turn on a fighter after they lose a couple fights. This isnt boxing. The best fighters in the world will lose several fights before they retire or get retired.

1. Gonzaga knocked him out by a sick head kick that would knock anyone in world out. Especially after eating a few elbows. It’s tough to come back from a vicious knockout like that for anybody no matter how tough, even crocop.

2. Against Kongo, he came out strong in the first round until he broke a rib. Have any of you ever had a rib broken? Those of you who have probably arent the ones dumping on him & know how bad it hurts to even breath let alone move around and try kickbox with some gigantic monster while getting repeatedly kneed in the balls.

3. Crocop is still a top 5 contender, and by far one of the most exciting fighters to see in the cage. He had two consecutive bad showings, but I think they were more bad luck than anything else. He will be back & he will be the champ soon (if randy ever retires - maybe when he’s 50 or so).

[quote comment=”152148″][quote comment=”151750″]kongo should of been disqualified for his low blows after the nut shots mirko wasn’t the same[/quote]

Thank you, one of the few people that state this. All I hear is how great Kongo looked, those frickin knees to the balls didn’t look good.

Kongo landed TWO illegal hits, he should have been disqualified.
People were appalled with the taps that GSP gave to Matt Hughes, but these were straight shots, right in the baby maker.[/quote]

Kongo, did not impress me at all, he didnt even come close to finishing crocop and the guy had a broken rib!

I think he only has one fight remaining on his UFC contract so what’s the point? Maybe he should just hang it up. He WAS a great fighter as late as 2005. Stick with Croatian parliment buddy.