BS… bisping is a chump
when hamill learns how to box he will be a monster

Looks like Cincy’s already lost Tito/Rashad II, so why not give us Bisping/Hamill II instead?

I DONT KNOW HOW DANA GAVE BISPING ROUND 2??? BUT EITHER WAY THIS REMATCH BETTER BE FREE ON SPIKE, AND THEY SHOULD HOOK THE CARD UP WITH TITO ORTIZ VS RASHAD EVANS REMATCH..AND ALSO MANNY GAMBURYAN VS NATE DIAZ MATCH..UFC OWE’S THE FANS A BIG NIGHT AND AN EXPLAINATION,APOLOGY,AND SECURITY THAT IT WONT HAPPEN AGIAN!! THIS FREE REMATCH SHOULD BE ASAP…..
look all i want is for Dana White to admit they f’d up, apologize and hook up a great !!FREE!! rematch, with other great fights!! I DON’T WANT UFC AND MMA TO GO DOWN LIKE BOXING!!!…If you agree with this? spread the word and maybe they will compensate such a teribble decision… I WANT BISPING/HAMMIL..ORTIZ/EVANS..DIAZ/GAMBURYAN…FREE..FREE.FREE….SPREAD THE WORD….MAKE IT HAPPEN……..

Peoples is a dumb ass. What fight was he watching? If Mike won the punching battle, why did his face look like it got put threw a hamburger grinder? Hammill won that fight… I am tired of seeing Mike only fighting in England, bring him over here and make it a bit more fair. I think without the crowds influence the fight would have went the other direction…

Hamill did win the fight….. but man he needs better boxing. He gets a little gassed. If he improved his boxing and cardio Hamill would be damn near unstoppable!

The majority of Bisping’s shots hit Hamill’s guard. A total joke of a decision.

I DONT KNOW HOW CECIL GAVE BISPING ROUND 2??? BUT EITHER WAY THIS REMATCH BETTER BE FREE ON SPIKE, AND THEY SHOULD HOOK THE CARD UP WITH TITO ORTIZ VS RASHAD EVANS REMATCH..AND ALSO MANNY GAMBURYAN VS NATE DIAZ MATCH..UFC OWE’S THE FANS A BIG NIGHT AND AN EXPLAINATION,APOLOGY,AND SECURITY THAT IT WONT HAPPEN AGIAN!! THIS FREE REMATCH SHOULD BE ASAP…..
look all i want is for Dana White to admit they f’d up, apologize and hook up a great !!FREE!! rematch, with other great fights!! I DON’T WANT UFC AND MMA TO GO DOWN LIKE BOXING!!!…If you agree with this? spread the word and maybe they will compensate such a teribble decision… I WANT BISPING/HAMMIL..ORTIZ/EVANS..DIAZ/GAMBURYAN…FREE..FREE.FREE….SPREAD THE WORD….MAKE IT HAPPEN……..

DON’T YOU HATE PEOPLE WHO LEAVE COMMENTS ALL IN CAPITAL LETTERS! Most annoying thing ever. I don’t even attempt reading them.

Hammil won that fight HANDS DOWN!. Bisping ran from his devistating punches all 3 rounds. That was a disappointing decision. I feel bad for Hammil but that wasnt the only crappy decision of the night , how does quinton jackson get a decision of 3 point with 2 judges im not sure who is judging these fights but they know nothing about mma.

This ia all bullshit…why should Hamill have to beat him a second time…he clearly did it once already…although I wouldn’t mind seeing Bisping get mauled again!!!!

Cecil Peoples..Now is an expert that knows when some1 looks like their out of gas..I’m no expert, but to me Bisping looked gassed..had no takedown defense for Matt’s takedowns..To me it looked like Bisping was running for his life the first two rounds..and did little something in the third..to maybe split the round..Now Matt to me showed some goods..kept his hands up..not like Bisping..I recall when more than half way into the fight Mike Goldberg stating…

” Wow who would of thought this would be a stand up battle..and who would of that is would be Matt winning the better of it. “..with Joe Rogan agreeing..

to then hear the judgement..and both act like Bisping was the man during the fight..My face was painted with ????? marks..Like Yeah Sure.. if you watch the fight 1000 times, you see the same thing..Matt won, and Bisping got his hand raised.

[quote post=”3286″]DON’T YOU HATE PEOPLE WHO LEAVE COMMENTS ALL IN CAPITAL LETTERS! Most annoying thing ever. I don’t even attempt reading them.[/quote]
YEAH I HATE THAT!!!!!!!!
good thing i don’t always use them or open24hrs like a hooker would hate me..boo hoo
we got more important issues then CAPITAL LETTERS!!
“ufc fans just got ripped off a FAIR FIGHT and your whinning about lettering…sorry to say but your on the wrong blog, you want “www.capital,letters make,me,cry.com………..you little shit?
TALK MMA OR GO FINGER YOUR PUSSY!

If I were Matt Hamill I would tell Dana White and the UFC to F@CK OFF! Of course Bisbing is moving down to 185….he doesn’t want to get his ass beat again by Hamill. 185????Does he really think he has what it takes to compete with the likes of Franklin and Silva? Bisbing is delusional!

[quote comment=”146511″]If I were Matt Hamill I would tell Dana White and the UFC to F@CK OFF! Of course Bisbing is moving down to 185….he doesn’t want to get his ass beat again by Hamill. 185????Does he really think he has what it takes to compete with the likes of Franklin and Silva? Bisbing is delusional![/quote]

Uhhh…what are you talking about? He’s moving down in weight because he feels he is too small for the light-heavyweight division.

.[quote comment=”146502″] I WANT BISPING/HAMMIL..ORTIZ/EVANS..DIAZ/GAMBURYAN…FREE..FREE.FREE….SPREAD THE WORD….MAKE IT HAPPEN……..[/quote]

I’d actually rather pay for the events so I can see them in HD. I hate watching fights on Spike with the big black bars on both sides of my HDTV and it’s all fuzzy to make things worse. Now, if Spike went HD - that would be a different story

[quote comment=”146510″][quote post=”3286″]DON’T YOU HATE PEOPLE WHO LEAVE COMMENTS ALL IN CAPITAL LETTERS! Most annoying thing ever. I don’t even attempt reading them.[/quote]
YEAH I HATE THAT!!!!!!!!
good thing i don’t always use them or open24hrs like a hooker would hate me..boo hoo we got more important issues then CAPITAL LETTERS!!
“ufc fans just got ripped off a FAIR FIGHT and your whinning about lettering…sorry to say but your on the wrong blog, you want “www.capital,letters make,me,cry.com………..you little shit?
TALK MMA OR GO FINGER YOUR PUSSY![/quote]

Sorry Headknock, but you have some serious issues. The reason we all hate the capital letters is because people like you who use them, are clearly taking the cheap way of getting noticed. Write something worth reading, not unavoidable.

Hamill got robbed, period. Very few of Bisbings punches did anything to hurt Hamill since he was covered up.

To me, all Bisbing would have had to do was throw a few jabs and then throw an uppercut or a leg kick to the body and he would have dismantled Hamill. Hamills cover-up was very sloppy and open, but it blocked the majority of the crappy punches Bisbing was throwing.

Whoever is looking for an apology from the UFC for the Hamill-Bisping fight is queer.
Hamill took bisbing down like 3 or 4 times and did NOTHING
with the takedowns. THATS why Bisping won.
Who gives a shit if you take some one down and can’t do dik with it.It actually helped Bisping establish the notion that
Hamill Couldn’t caspitalize on the takedown.
Octagon control. Hamill couldn’t control Bisping.
One time for Randy

Bisping fought the whole fight scared, got taken down at will, had his face turned to hamburger, and lost the stand up war while backpedaling the whole fight. And Dana offers a rematch? That is crap.

Cecil peoples is a joke.How is he a ufc ref.Hammill clearly won as he set the pace,controled the centre of the ring,took bisping down at will and was the more effective striker.

Watch Hamill vs. Bisping video at this link and see for yourself why Hamill should’ve won:

http://www.mmatko.com/michael-bisping-vs-matt-hamill-ufc-75-fight-video/

I do agree with Peoples that Hamill did nothing after getting takedowns. He needs to try and keep it from going to the judges.

[quote comment=”146494″]Looks like Cincy’s already lost Tito/Rashad II, so why not give us Bisping/Hamill II instead?[/quote]

Its a month away. No way they will b ready to fight by OCTOBER 20TH

You don’t need a fucking rematch. Overturn the decision and award the victory to Hamill as it should have been.

[quote post=”3286″]Sorry Headknock, but you have some serious issues. The reason we all hate the capital letters is because people like you who use them, are clearly taking the cheap way of getting noticed. Write something worth reading, not unavoidable.[/quote]
hey man no need to apologize! it dont matter to me what you or your freinds think, i know what im talkin bout’ it’s not senseless bullshit. i dont write CAPS to get noticed, it’s putting emotions in writing.. if you didn’t notice at 75 crazy shit happened and when im mad i write mad, 99% of the time i write normal it’s just this time,{cause im pissed bout the decision} so like i said to your buddy if your not talking mma, go finger your pussy, shouldn’t matter how it’s written.

Who cares about a rematch? The fight sucked, if they fight again it will suck again. I’d rather c Bisping move down to 185 anyway.

Its interesting to c that the only British judge actually scored the fight for Hamil.

I dont really care ne way, it was a horrible match up, and you can put anyone against Hamil and the fight will be boring.

[quote comment=”146514″][quote comment=”146511″]If I were Matt Hamill I would tell Dana White and the UFC to F@CK OFF! Of course Bisbing is moving down to 185….he doesn’t want to get his ass beat again by Hamill. 185????Does he really think he has what it takes to compete with the likes of Franklin and Silva? Bisbing is delusional![/quote]

Uhhh…what are you talking about? He’s moving down in weight because he feels he is too small for the light-heavyweight division.[/quote]
What I’m saying is that Bisbing should be man enough to realize that he lost the fight….wait to drop to 185 maybe do the rematch, but again as I stated before, Hamill shouldn’t even bother with him. Everyone knows he won that fight. Let Bisbing move down to 185 and get his ass kicked there.

Facts:

1. Judges were not sanctioned and were paid by UFC.
2. Pay off record in London - exceeds rolling stones.
3. Bisping was pivotal for location and marketing.
4. Over 90% of viewers determine Hamill winner.
5. UFC web site avoids comments and adds to the idea(propaganda) that Bisping wins hard fight.
6. Dana White is publically absent at fight conference.
_______________________________________________________

Minimal words and no action.

Dana White
Zuffa, LLC
2960 West Sahara Avenue
Suite 100
Las Vegas, NV 89102
Tel: (702) 221-4780

http://www.petitiononline.com/UFC75hb/petition.html

I am astounished at what Cecil People’s said:

“I gave Bisping the second round, first because Hamill was beginning to run out of gas after the first round. Bisping fought like he wanted that fight. He came back aggressive [from the first round]. Hamill did take him down, but he did nothing with the takedown. Overall, Bisping was more aggressive. Hamill just held him down. Bisping’s punching was more effective.”

You don’t give someone a round because the other fighter appeared to be running out of gas. What kind of crap is that. He STILL beat Bisping up in the 2nd round. So if he KO’d Bisping in the 2nd, People’s would be impressed because he appeared to be gassed? He also says that Bisping fought like he wanted that fight. WHAT? What was he watching. Bisping was RUNNING AWAY from Matt Hamill. He was scared to get punched by the powerful Hammer, and it was obvious to every single person watching, except for two judges. Then he says “Hamill did take him down, but he did nothing with the takedown.” I don’t give a fuck. A take down is a take down, and has always been that way. Jake O’Brien beat Heath Herring in a decision that was WAY less impressive than this fight. O’Brien won the fight because he laid and prayed. Hamill took him down, and beat him standing. “Bisping was more aggessive” Yeah, sure - if you call aggressive getting punched in the face, running away from your opponent, and getting taken down to your back over and over again. “Bisping’s punching was more effective.” No it wasn’t. Hamill was never daised, not once, and Bisping was. Sure, Hamill’s standup doesn’t look pretty, but that’s this isn’t figure skating. It’s not how you look, it getting the job done. ANd that’s what Hamill did. How was Bisping’s punching even the least bit effective. If it was effective, Hamill wouldn’t have stood directly in front of him with his hands down and chin out. Hamill was not scared at all of Bisping, and Bisping was SCARED.

As a matter of fact, I’d bet that Bisping wouldn’t even want a rematch. He will continue to run away from Hamill.

Bisping is now a cocky joke in my book. ANd I don’t ever see him proving me wrong.

Don’t you just hate when people who “don’t even care” bother posting? If you don’t care about it, then don’t post!

Bisping acted like a total dick after the decision came out too. He looked like the most surprised person in the arena when they raised his hand because even he knew he lost BADLY. And then to act all cocky and talk shit is just disrespectful. The only thing Bisping did was lose any fans he had. I used to be on the fence with him but now..I hate him. Matt kept moving forward the entire fight while Bisping just ran away. And honestly when have they ever announced that the decisions will be made by how well conditioned the fighters are. It doesn’t matter if a fighter gasses, he can still win the fight and be tired. It did look like Matt gassed in the third but he still pushed forward while Bisping backed up still. Cecil Peoples should look at the scoring guidelines. Effective striking, grappling, takedowns, octagon control…yada yada yada. Even though Bisping got back up after a take down…WHO CARES…he didn’t do anything except get taken down again…aka, more points for Matt. Matt dominated the fight and I am extremely mad at Bisping, the judges (except the brit…weird), and the UFC for letting this happen. I mean come on, the english fans booed the decision and the english judge ruled for Matt, even though they are all in love with Bisping, they know how to judge a fight. The UFC should stop trying to make Bisping a poster child for them because pretty much every fan of the UFC hates him.

[quote comment=”146536″]Facts:

1. Judges were not sanctioned and were paid by UFC.
2. Pay off record in London - exceeds rolling stones.
3. Bisping was pivotal for location and marketing.
4. Over 90% of viewers determine Hamill winner.
5. UFC web site avoids comments and adds to the idea(propaganda) that Bisping wins hard fight.
6. Dana White is publically absent at fight conference.
_______________________________________________________

Minimal words and no action.

Dana White
Zuffa, LLC
2960 West Sahara Avenue
Suite 100
Las Vegas, NV 89102
Tel: (702) 221-4780

http://www.petitiononline.com/UFC75hb/petition.html/quote

..Taped Up Pair: You keeping it Real.

[quote post=”3286″]I WANT BISPING/HAMMIL..ORTIZ/EVANS..DIAZ/GAMBURYAN…FREE..FREE.FREE….SPREAD THE WORD….MAKE IT HAPPEN……..
I’d actually rather pay for the events so I can see them in HD. I hate watching fights on Spike with the big black bars on both sides of my HDTV and it’s all fuzzy to make things worse. Now, if Spike went HD - that would be a different story [/quote]
Yeah i dont have HD, so i didn’t know about the bar thing.that sucks. i would rather pay too if it meant better quality. Spike will probably go HD soon, because the ufc will be airing more main ufc on TV thats for sure

[quote comment=”146521″]Whoever is looking for an apology from the UFC for the Hamill-Bisping fight is queer.
Hamill took bisbing down like 3 or 4 times and did NOTHING
with the takedowns. THATS why Bisping won.
Who gives a shit if you take some one down and can’t do dik with it.It actually helped Bisping establish the notion that
Hamill Couldn’t caspitalize on the takedown.
Octagon control. Hamill couldn’t control Bisping.
One time for Randy[/quote]

Ok, I will agree with you that Hamill did not do much with the takedowns, but the main question is WHAT THE HELL DID BISPING DO TO WIN THIS FIGHT? Nothing, Hamill at least took him down and won the stand up game as well. Bisping was running away from Hamill the whole fight. I have a hard time understanding that Bisping won this fight because everytime Hamill took him down he did not do anything. Bisping never took Hamill down or landed any good shots. If Hamill was gased than why was he chasing Bisping all over the octogon all three rounds. Worst decision I have ever seen.

[quote comment=”146541″][quote comment=”146536″]Facts:

1. Judges were not sanctioned and were paid by UFC.
2. Pay off record in London - exceeds rolling stones.
3. Bisping was pivotal for location and marketing.
4. Over 90% of viewers determine Hamill winner.
5. UFC web site avoids comments and adds to the idea(propaganda) that Bisping wins hard fight.
6. Dana White is publically absent at fight conference.
_______________________________________________________

Minimal words and no action.

Dana White
Zuffa, LLC
2960 West Sahara Avenue
Suite 100
Las Vegas, NV 89102
Tel: (702) 221-4780

http://www.petitiononline.com/UFC75hb/petition.html/quote

..Taped Up Pair: You keeping it Real.[/quote]
Actual fact: in mma weekly out of 18,188 votes 83.57% thought Hamill won and 16.43% thought bisping won, wow over 15,000 thought matt won, now thats messed up. Even white thought matt won, judges shouldn’t be biased but the two that favored michael obviously were, no question.

I signed that petition too, doubt it will do much though, I know there’s going to be a rematch as soon as possible and I really hope they never use those two judges again.

Either Cecil Peoples knows NOTHING about MMA… or I and every other hardcore MMA fan know nothing.
Bisping fought harder and wanted it more? Firstly… thats not what judging is based off of. Its based off of aggression, fighter dominance, and ring control. Which of these things did Bisping show that entire fight? Peoples needs to be let go… you could seriously go with a moderate MMA fan to judge better then that.

Hats off to Dana for making this happen quickly. Im sure Hamill doesnt care about his record, he just wants his hand raised over Bisping, which he should have on Sat.

I definitly do NOT want to see a rematch between these two. Everyone knows Hammill won that fight. Put Bisping against a top 5 fighter. Matter of fact, put him against Vanderli Silva. Put him against a a Shogun, Liddell, Rampage, Henderson, whoever. He will get murdered. I never bought into the Bisping hype. He’s gotten himself in alot of sticky situations in most of his fights. He almost tapped from a Elvis Sinosic kimura, good lord. I would have had a mild amount of respect for bisping is he wasnt such a prick. He was anything from graceful in victory. Matt Hammill showed alot of class by not flipping out (like I would).

Bottom line - I want to see Bisping get DESTROYED against a top tier opponet.

i agree with John, the fight was boring and not worth seeing again. I think hamill should have won the fight, but I think he should of one by knockout. If you don’t want to get the crap end of a decision, don’t let it go to the cards. He hurt Bisping with his much harder punching. If he would have really laid into him when Bisping backpedalled into the cage it may have been over in the first round. The judges can’t score a knockout for the other guy. Bisping can drop to 155 if he wants, he still would probably never be in title contention. I like watching him fight but his skills are pretty limited. I don’t see him beating Okami, Franklin, or making it past the first 20 seconds with Silva. I would like to see him fight Jason Mc Donald.

Did anyone catch this quote?

“White, who said he felt Hamill won the fight two rounds to one”

Dana White agrees with us folks:

“White said the rematch is “a no-brainer and I’m going to be on it right away.”

No president or commissioner of a sport can call a judge out. I think he knows the integrity of the game is at stake and this is all he can do.
http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news?slug=ki-bispinghamill090907&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Still though keep telling them how you feel we are the lifeline of the UFC.

185 not 155 .. my bad, still waking up

I hope bisbing see these polls and feels like a stupid ass…

Even Dana White is reacting as if he is a punkass who is lucky it was in England… This time hammil better knowck him out.

I’d only be interested in a rematch if this last fight was either completely recalled or the win given to Hamill. It sounds like trying to fix a mistake with lining your pockets with more money. I hope they don’t think we are idiots. This a friggen joke. I would be more interested in seeing Shamrock get busted up by Tito one more time.

One point to fighters, that is why it is better to finish the fight and not let the judges have it.

[quote comment=”146547″]Either Cecil Peoples knows NOTHING about MMA… or I and every other hardcore MMA fan know nothing.
Bisping fought harder and wanted it more? Firstly… thats not what judging is based off of. Its based off of aggression, fighter dominance, and ring control. Which of these things did Bisping show that entire fight? Peoples needs to be let go… you could seriously go with a moderate MMA fan to judge better then that.

Hats off to Dana for making this happen quickly. Im sure Hamill doesnt care about his record, he just wants his hand raised over Bisping, which he should have on Sat.[/quote]

..Totally Agree.

[quote post=”3286″]Dana White agrees with us folks:
“White said the rematch is “a no-brainer and I’m going to be on it right away.”
No president or commissioner of a sport can call a judge out. I think he knows the integrity of the game is at stake and this is all he can do.[/quote]
I agree totally! Dana has always been a good pres and promotor.im glad he has said what he’s said so far.. i respect the fact that he can’t completly call out the judge’s, but still disagree’s with the decision, if you ask me..thats a pretty cool thing too do,. And he said they will be fighting again.but i still think it should be free.

So bisping will be fighting one more 205 bout’. I think Bisping will read all the shit about him and take the fight for sure,. And as far as Hamill, he’ll take the fight for sure. I cant wait till this mess is over and bisping is fighting 185 where he will do much better.

Matt Hamill got robbed in England. He was ripped off by the judges and the fans were cheated by the UFC. This fight wasn’t even close. This is what upsets me the most, Bisping runing around after the fight like he really won jumping on the octagon, what a joke. I hope the UFC pays Matt his bonus for winning the fight he deserves it.

[quote comment=”146494″]Looks like Cincy’s already lost Tito/Rashad II, so why not give us Bisping/Hamill II instead?[/quote]

What happend to Titp/rashad II?

With the talent pool of the UFC..their is no weight class I see Bisping ever coming close to touch gold. In 205 no need to say why or who’s..would beat him up.. Shit..I feed him Houston Alexander b4 ever thinking of having the top big dogs..rape him.. in 185..he is not beat Okami..Franklin would violate him..Anderson Silva would put his head on a platter on saturn. and then he’ll cut to 170 and get schooled by Fitch, GSP, and that old country boy Hughes..or Serra can do a flying triangle on him..then cut to 155..and face the likes of BJ penn..need I say more..

Feed Bisping To Houston Alexander………!

Outside of the occasional mouthieness/unprofessionalism, I personaly think that Dana and Joe Silva do a GREAT job with setting up fights. Granted there are a lot of fights Id still like to see… but look at Sept we are getting 3 total shows… Thats insane.

And yes, after watching that fight the other night, the only way Bisping could be a player is if he drops down to the VERY thin 185lb division.

I don’t believe Dana or the UFC fixed the fight, but that’s irrelevant the point is that Hammil won, period!

I won’t pay for this any longer. I know Dana is supposedly going to address this. I won’t pay for anoter UFC until he does. Sure it’s not much but it’s all I can do.

Well not exactly all I can do.

Here is the number for the public relations officer for the UFC: Jennifer at 702-635-0995

This number was given to me on a recorded message by Jennifer herself. It is not a private number.

Bisbang /Hammil was a joke. I didnt see Bisbang do a thing. It damaged the credibility of ther sport and the UFC. If it wasn’t the best spectater sport on eart, I would boycott the next UfC. As it stands, I just get to complain

[quote comment=”146536″]Facts:

1. Judges were not sanctioned and were paid by UFC.
2. Pay off record in London - exceeds rolling stones.
3. Bisping was pivotal for location and marketing.
4. Over 90% of viewers determine Hamill winner.
5. UFC web site avoids comments and adds to the idea(propaganda) that Bisping wins hard fight.
6. Dana White is publically absent at fight conference.
_______________________________________________________

Minimal words and no action.

Dana White
Zuffa, LLC
2960 West Sahara Avenue
Suite 100
Las Vegas, NV 89102
Tel: (702) 221-4780

http://www.petitiononline.com/UFC75hb/petition.html/quote
considered my signed

[quote comment=”146544″][quote comment=”146541″][quote comment=”146536″]Facts:

1. Judges were not sanctioned and were paid by UFC.
2. Pay off record in London - exceeds rolling stones.
3. Bisping was pivotal for location and marketing.
4. Over 90% of viewers determine Hamill winner.
5. UFC web site avoids comments and adds to the idea(propaganda) that Bisping wins hard fight.
6. Dana White is publically absent at fight conference.
_______________________________________________________

3. Bisping was pivotal for location and marketing.

anyone who isnt living in the UK here is a small lesson for you, Michael Bisping is from the north in Lancashire, he may be from the UK but he is not popular everywhere, only up north. He is definatley not a fan favourite in the South - where UFC 75 was held. The location has NOTHING to do with him winning the fight even though the UK is small.

as for people getting confused with Bisping saying he may step down to Middle weight - he said this before the hamill fight - not after.

DANA WHITE HAD A MEETIN WITH ONE OF THE JUDGES AND TOLD HIM TO GIVE IT TO BISPING IF POSSIBLE, HE ALSO HAD A MEETING WITH THE ANNOUNCERS, JOE ROAGEN IS VERY CRICITAL AND FOR HIM TO KEEP HIS MOUTH SHUT IS NO QUINCIDENCE,BUT WHY U ASK, CAUSE DANA IS TRYING TO MAKE IT BIG IN EUROPE,AND HE WANT BISPING TO BE THE EUROPEAN CHUCK LIDDEL. CANT WAIT TILL SHOTIME MM GET UGE AND GIVES FC SOME COMPITION SO U WONT SEE SHIT LIKE THIS AGAIN,,,,IS DANA THE NEXT VINCE

The UFC is quickly becoming boxing …. fixed matches. I have been watching the UFC since UFC 1 and was disgusted by the outcome of the Bisping-Hamil fight. Isn’t it ironic that one judge gives all three rounds to Hamil and the other two judges gave one round to Hamil and two rounds to Bisping. It was almost comical. I understand the business part and wanting to expand to other countries, after all it’s all about the $$$$, but give me a break.

Bisping has a huge set of balls coming off saying at the end, that we all know who the real TUF winner is .. .I know who the real winner is, it’s Matt Hamil. Get it together Dana White or your going to become boxing … i’m out!

[quote comment=”146578″]Feed Bisping To Houston Alexander………![/quote]

That’s like feeding asking some reality TV star to battle with a real hardcore martial artist…. oh wait…

You know what kills me as a wrestler, at one point, during the 2nd round, Hamill ICE PICKED Bisping. Thats were you slap the back of the ankle from a standing position and cause the other person to fall down. Do you know how much that hurts?! I cracked a rib after having that done to me. That alone, in my mind, is like landing an crippling body punch. It’s like the one offensive move in wrestling that causes major damage without having to lay on the guy.

[quote comment=”146590″][quote comment=”146536″]Facts:

1. Judges were not sanctioned and were paid by UFC.
2. Pay off record in London - exceeds rolling stones.
3. Bisping was pivotal for location and marketing.
4. Over 90% of viewers determine Hamill winner.
5. UFC web site avoids comments and adds to the idea(propaganda) that Bisping wins hard fight.
6. Dana White is publically absent at fight conference.
_______________________________________________________

Minimal words and no action.

Dana White
Zuffa, LLC
2960 West Sahara Avenue
Suite 100
Las Vegas, NV 89102
Tel: (702) 221-4780

http://www.petitiononline.com/UFC75hb/petition.html/quote
considered my signed[/quote]

If you watched this fight and care about the UFC, I don’t see how you can’t take a few seconds to sign this. It is at about 2,000 signatures right now, but it needs more for the UFC to take notice.

Still no comment on UFC.Com.

Unified Rules of Combat

10-point must system

1. effective striking
2. effective grappling
3. control of fighting area
4. effective aggressiveness

1. Effective striking is defined as the “total number of legal heavy strikes landed”
2. Effective grappling is judged by the number of “successful legal takedowns and reversals,” as well as passing guard to mount position and bottom fighters utilizing an “active, threatening guard” on the ground.
3. Fighting area control constitutes pacing, location, and positioning along with a fighter’s ability to counter a takedown attempt or complete a takedown to force a ground fight.
4. Effective aggressiveness is defined by “moving forward and a landing a legal strike”

Note: Judges are also asked to weigh effective grappling first if the majority of the bout is spent on the ground or effective striking if the majority of the round is kept standing.

I have been accused as a conspiracy theorist in the past, but I see it here also. Why is it that White waits to make a comment. He waited to gauge public sentiment before taking this position. Otherwise, he would have been at the press conference and stated his position. Clearly, he wanted Bipsing to win the match due to business reasons. He has relied on Bisping to build a fan base in Europe and he does not want to lose that. However, he sees how irate the fans are and now has to take a different position.

By the way: How obvious was it to have Hamil come out to “Born in the USA”. Since he is deaf, I am sure he didn’t pick the song. The song was chosen solely to incite the crowd. On the flip side, Bisping comes out to London Bridges are burning. Just like the WWE.

I signed the petition..for anyone who feels the same way..sign it..doesn’t take long at all.

you have to be an ignorant dumb judge to give the fight to bisping my it was my girlfriends fist time watching the ufc and when she watch bisping won the fist thing she said was “DO U WIN BY RUNNING AWAY FROM YOUR OPPONENT IN THE UFC.” because that was really the only thing bisping was doing the whole fight

Am I the only one here who agrees with the judges decision?

On the ….junkie…. site they have the other judge Jeff Mullen explain why he gave Bisping the fight. He gives some different reasons and also Mario Yamasaki’s take on the fight.

I watched the fight closely and I knew it was close but I agreed with the judges and their reasoning then and after hearing why they think Bisping won the fight. Apparently we’re the minority though.

they f***g rip the win out matt’s hands!!!

rematch has to happen

I’ve gone back and rewatched the fight, and rounds two and three were far from clear cut. FAR from it.

[quote comment=”146536″]Facts:

1. Judges were not sanctioned and were paid by UFC.
2. Pay off record in London - exceeds rolling stones.
3. Bisping was pivotal for location and marketing.
4. Over 90% of viewers determine Hamill winner.
5. UFC web site avoids comments and adds to the idea(propaganda) that Bisping wins hard fight.
6. Dana White is publically absent at fight conference.
_______________________________________________________

Minimal words and no action.

Dana White
Zuffa, LLC
2960 West Sahara Avenue
Suite 100
Las Vegas, NV 89102
Tel: (702) 221-4780

http://www.petitiononline.com/UFC75hb/petition.html/quote

There are around 2000 signatures thus far.

Ok….i can honestly say, even after his poor effort saturday, that i’m a bisping fan. i think usually hes a good fighter, and yes he’s cocky but name one fighter for me that isn’t, you have to be. and it was a very boring fight, i think really any fight with hammill is going to be boring because of his style. that said, it doesn’t matter if it looks good or not, a win is a win and hammill won. i like the idea of letting dana know your feelings with a petition, but it doesn’t mention anything that you want to be done about it. i don’t think you can really over turn the decision but i’m sure theres something somebody else wants done about it

I cannot express how disappointed this is. Horrible poor judge’s decision seems to be happening a lot more often and what can we do?

Ways to win a fight addendum:

1. TKO/KO
2. Submission
3. Flip a coin

how are you gonna argue with one judge that has been judging twice as long as anyone else with the ufc fights, and cecil peoples?

i still cant understand why people are saying hamill won the fight. bispings face was meesed up, so what so was GSP after the first round with penn. what did hamill land in the last 2 rounds? why did he just lay on bisping instead of dropping elbows and punches or go for a sub???

bisping kept fighting and hamill was gassed after the first. bisping deserved the win.

[quote comment=”146560″]I’d only be interested in a rematch if this last fight was either completely recalled or the win given to Hamill. It sounds like trying to fix a mistake with lining your pockets with more money. I hope they don’t think we are idiots. This a friggen joke. I would be more interested in seeing Shamrock get busted up by Tito one more time.

One point to fighters, that is why it is better to finish the fight and not let the judges have it.[/quote]
I agree about fixing the problem by lining your pockets with money. The last UFC fight in Columbus,OH. where Hamill fought and Franklin fought (they are both from cincy) was the biggest sell out in the states that the UFC had ever had. Now just think. Dana White has Franklin fighting in Cincinnati in Oct. for a title fight $$$$$$ and if he could get Bisbing and Matt for a rematch in Columbus $$$$$$$$. Hamill should be given the win that he deserves. There shouldn’t have to be any bullshit rematch and everyone knows it. It really is all about the money.

Dana’s immediate reaction to the decision: $$$R$E$M$A$T$C$H$$$

will not be watching hamill and bisping 2. it’s a sham folks. there should’t be a rematch, give us better match ups than an overrated bisping.

Dana - Why are you in hiding?

How does Forrest lose to Tito?
- Did you see the elbows Forrest landed from the bottom?

How does Rashad draw to Tito?

Is economics driving this soap opera?

Are you suffering from an inflamed vagina? No man-children! Step up and protect the integrity of the fighters. Public ally condemn the Hamill fight and use this attention to make a change in how fights are scored and/or standardize how officials are trained. Dude, it is your product they are officiating. It is your responsibility! I dont buy - “there is little I can do.” Why are you relying on some yahoo reporter when you have your own web site? Call a conference and manage this change like you market your fights.

This smells real bad.

Minimal words and no action.

Dana White
Zuffa, LLC
2960 West Sahara Avenue
Suite 100
Las Vegas, NV 89102
Tel: (702) 221-4780

http://www.petitiononline.com/UFC75hb/petition.html

before everybody goes crazy, keep in mind that Dana says a lot of things. most of them never coming true.

[quote comment=”146521″]Whoever is looking for an apology from the UFC for the Hamill-Bisping fight is queer.
Hamill took bisbing down like 3 or 4 times and did NOTHING
with the takedowns. THATS why Bisping won.
Who gives a shit if you take some one down and can’t do dik with it.It actually helped Bisping establish the notion that
Hamill Couldn’t caspitalize on the takedown.
Octagon control. Hamill couldn’t control Bisping.
One time for Randy[/quote]

I partially agree. Hammill didn’t do much damage on the ground. However, takedowns are worth points. Hammill also was able to attain the top position everytime it was on the ground. I know Bisping escaped here and there but escapes are usually worth less points than takedowns (in wrestling, at least - I don’t know exactly how UFC score cards are set up).

Hammill not only had the takedowns, he also maintained ring generalship the entire three rounds making Bisping backpedal the whole fight. I believe aggression is one of the scoring criteria. Is it not? Correct me if I’m wrong.

Matt appeared to be dominating the stand up as well. I would have given him all three 10-9 rounds.

…but again, I don’t know exactly how the score card matrix is set up.

[quote comment=”146536″]Facts:

1. Judges were not sanctioned and were paid by UFC.
2. Pay off record in London - exceeds rolling stones.
3. Bisping was pivotal for location and marketing.
4. Over 90% of viewers determine Hamill winner.
5. UFC web site avoids comments and adds to the idea(propaganda) that Bisping wins hard fight.
6. Dana White is publically absent at fight conference.
_______________________________________________________

Minimal words and no action.

Dana White
Zuffa, LLC
2960 West Sahara Avenue
Suite 100
Las Vegas, NV 89102
Tel: (702) 221-4780

http://www.petitiononline.com/UFC75hb/petition.html/quote

What exactly is this petitioning for, a rematch or a recall of the decision? For Cecil to be fired?

I do like your initiative to do something and applaud your effort. I would hate to see the UFC turn out like boxing.

I remember Cecil Peoples from Boxing and he still SUCKS!!!

Why isn’t there Judges training and if there is it SUCKS!!!

Teach these judges how to score a round!!

Why do the announcers go along with the bad decision?

I thought for sure I was goning to hear, “This is Crazy, Hamill was Phenominal, and giving Bisping the decision is Insane!!!, Hamill’s boxing was Brutal!!”

Either way it doesn’t really matter Bisping has been exposed as an overrated chump and will have to drop weight to even remain a low-ranked contender!

It was a close fight if you look at it round by round. The fight as a whole though, Bisping got destroyed in the first round alone. I dont think Hamill was terribly robbed. A rematch indeed will settle the controversy. I actually agree with Cecil Peeples scoring. Call me crazy or whatever, but Im not from the UK and Im not that much of a Michael Bisping fan. Thats just how I saw it. Hamill just gassed after the first round. I have to admit though if Hamill can improve his conditioning, he will run right through Bisping in the next match. If not, expect the same kind of fight.

First off the re match should be here in the United States, thus Bisping would have to travel the next time around. Hammill will win the rematch and as a result, Bisping will have to move down to 185 pounds. Honestly the UFC will never pit Bisping against the mid tier guys (which he is not) such as Keith Jardine, Forrest Griffen, Ryoto Machida etc because they would throw him a sick beatin’ … Forget about the fact that Quinton Jackson and Maurico Rua and Liddell would tear in to him so bad he’d give up fighting.

What do you guys think ?

I hate to admit it, but I can see how the judges awarded this fight to Bisping. I’ve watched this fight three times to be more impartial and to be fair it could really have gone either way. I didn’t think so at first, and had the same reaction as everyone else when the announcement came out that Bisping won, but as I watched the fight a second time then once again after that, Hamill looked less impressive each time.

Although Hamill stalked Bisping in the cage and tossed him to the ground repeatedly, he wasn’t effective in any aspect of the fight except in punches. His only true weapon was a right cross, which really doesn’t look good from a technical standpoint.

Hamill looked like the aggressor because he was stalking Bisping, but many fighters have a “stick and move” style of fighting, which should not be minimized just because it doesn’t look as aggressive at first blush — or else we’d pretty much see nothing but Mike Tyson-esque brawlers trying to run into each other in every fight. That gets old. We have to allow every fighter to bring his own style into each fight, then as fans have the basic understanding to appreciate each style. That’s our one responsibility as fight fans.

Remember that Bisping was trained by Juanito coming into this fight, and I am sure that Juanito knew Hamill was much stronger and tends to have a constant and relentless Terminator-style forward movement in his fights. If I were training Bisping, I too would have said to stick and move because you’re faster. Keep stinging him and just outbox him because that’s pretty much the best you can do against a bigger and stronger Hamill with the constant threat of a takedown. Basically turn this fight into a “Boxer” (Muhammad Ali) vs. “Slugger” (George Foreman) bout. It seemed to work — just barely.

It looks like Bisping was running away the entire fight, but watching again I can see that his strategy was to have a lot of space-creating strikes (jabs) and then look for openings. It was obvious to me that Bisping knew he wouldn’t ko Hamill and was just going to chop the monster down over three rounds, no matter what bullshit he spoke pre-fight.

Just my opinion.

Rob said:

“What exactly is this petitioning for, a rematch or a recall of the decision? For Cecil to be fired?”

Rob,

The way I read the petition is that it is a call for a revaluation of the fight. This, to me, leaves options open for Dana. I did not write it but I support the effort as well.

According to the bottom of the petition, it was created by Sherdog and written by Brian Kunz (bmkz@hotmail.com). Send him an email - looks like 2010 at this point.

Peace

[quote comment=”146672″]I hate to admit it, but I can see how the judges awarded this fight to Bisping. I’ve watched this fight three times to be more impartial and to be fair it could really have gone either way. I didn’t think so at first, and had the same reaction as everyone else when the announcement came out that Bisping won, but as I watched the fight a second time then once again after that, Hamill looked less impressive each time.

Although Hamill stalked Bisping in the cage and tossed him to the ground repeatedly, he wasn’t effective in any aspect of the fight except in punches. His only true weapon was a right cross, which really doesn’t look good from a technical standpoint.

Hamill looked like the aggressor because he was stalking Bisping, but many fighters have a “stick and move” style of fighting, which should not be minimized just because it doesn’t look as aggressive at first blush — or else we’d pretty much see nothing but Mike Tyson-esque brawlers trying to run into each other in every fight. That gets old. We have to allow every fighter to bring his own style into each fight, then as fans have the basic understanding to appreciate each style. That’s our one responsibility as fight fans.

Remember that Bisping was trained by Juanito coming into this fight, and I am sure that Juanito knew Hamill was much stronger and tends to have a constant and relentless Terminator-style forward movement in his fights. If I were training Bisping, I too would have said to stick and move because you’re faster. Keep stinging him and just outbox him because that’s pretty much the best you can do against a bigger and stronger Hamill with the constant threat of a takedown. Basically turn this fight into a “Boxer” (Muhammad Ali) vs. “Slugger” (George Foreman) bout. It seemed to work — just barely.

It looks like Bisping was running away the entire fight, but watching again I can see that his strategy was to have a lot of space-creating strikes (jabs) and then look for openings. It was obvious to me that Bisping knew he wouldn’t ko Hamill and was just going to chop the monster down over three rounds, no matter what bullshit he spoke pre-fight.

Just my opinion.[/quote]

Brilliant summation.

No shit, I appreciate your against the grain of popular opinion approach which cuts through to the underlying truth of the matter that is deviod of bias or “favorite fighter” emotion.

Just the facts… Bisping won “Fair and Square” as Hamill said.

The Hammer was robbed!

I tend to agree with Peoples reason for scoring the fight. Hamill came out like a house on fire in the first round and seemed to wane as the match went on and I thought conversely Bisping looked better as the fight went on. The takedowns were there but what the hell came of them? There was no ground and pound, no submission attempts, he just layed on the guy and didn’t accomplish anything or do any damage.

I mean good for Hamill for taking him down but if you want to win do something with it. Preferably don’t even leave it up the judges, punch the other fellow silly or go for a kimora.

I’m from the UK and to be honest rated Bisping as a future prospect pretty highly BEFORE I saw this JOKE… er I mean fight. I 100% think Hamill should have giot the nod but he didn’t, he took it like a man and he will have a sweet taste of victory when the rematch happens which it’s looking like it definitely will (thank god!).
I have gone off Bisping because of the way he was cocky jumping about like he thought he deserved the win. He was lackluster boring and basically crap in the fight. Hamill can only go up from here I think and good luck to him. Bisping has been exposed as crap and when he does move over and fight in the US he’ll get battered and forgotten. (hopefully)

When I watched the fight on TV, I thought the decision was crap.
However after I watched it a couple of times (analyzing it) I really dont know how I would have scored it. It really could have went either way, and I’m not has pissed about the decision as I was initially. Hamil took Bisping down a couple of times, once he got him on the ground he inflicted NO DAMAGE. Also once Hamil took Bisping on the ground, he couldn’t really keepBisping on the ground for 2 long (reducing Octagon control points). Hamil put a serious whooooping on Bisping in the 1st round, he then gassed and did very little of anything for the rest of the fight. It was a split decision,it could have been scored either way. Who really cares, the fight sucked, Bisping belongs at 185, Hamil is getting better, lets just MOVE ON. I could careless about a rematch. This decision should not be hogging all the headlines. Lets move on, its not that serious. The fight is ruled on a rd by rd basis, not the fight overall (like PRIDE was, which is a better method anyway).

What we learned from this fight is that the scoring system sucks. How can you really judge a brutal fight on a rd by rd basis. We ask our judges to judge who won each rd, some of the Bisping Hamil rds were extremely close. In pride, judges were asked to judge the fight as an overall fight which is a much better judging system in my oppinion.

UFC judges are not asked to judge a fight, they are simply asked to judge each rd on a 10-9 point basis, and then adding up the rounds determines the winner of the fight. There has to be more emphasis on the fight as a whole instead of this rd by rd crap. Hamil had a huge 1st rd.the next 2 rd’s could have went either way. If it were A fight in PRIDE, then Hamil shoulda won, as a fight in the UFC, I’m not so sure if Hamil should have won anymore.

[quote comment=”146651″]Dana - Why are you in hiding?

How does Forrest lose to Tito?
- Did you see the elbows Forrest landed from the bottom?

How does Rashad draw to Tito?

Is economics driving this soap opera?

Are you suffering from an inflamed vagina? No man-children! Step up and protect the integrity of the fighters. Public ally condemn the Hamill fight and use this attention to make a change in how fights are scored and/or standardize how officials are trained. Dude, it is your product they are officiating. It is your responsibility! I dont buy - “there is little I can do.” Why are you relying on some yahoo reporter when you have your own web site? Call a conference and manage this change like you market your fights.

This smells real bad.

Minimal words and no action.

Dana White
Zuffa, LLC
2960 West Sahara Avenue
Suite 100
Las Vegas, NV 89102
Tel: (702) 221-4780

http://www.petitiononline.com/UFC75hb/petition.html/quote

come on, hamill / bisping is one thing, tito / forrest and tito / evans is a completely different thing. tito beat the s*it out of forrest in the first round and then forrest didn’t do much, the crowd just got excited that he survived that first round…tito / evans no one did anything to win, evans was scared most of the fight and didn’t attack at all…having said that, i do agree that hamill won that fight no rematch needed, too boring…let’s move on to bigger things!!

[quote comment=”146580″]I don’t believe Dana or the UFC fixed the fight, but that’s irrelevant the point is that Hammil won, period!

I won’t pay for this any longer. I know Dana is supposedly going to address this. I won’t pay for anoter UFC until he does. Sure it’s not much but it’s all I can do.

Well not exactly all I can do.

Here is the number for the public relations officer for the UFC: Jennifer at 702-635-0995

This number was given to me on a recorded message by Jennifer herself. It is not a private number.[/quote]
THAT IS TOTALLY REDICULOUS TO SAY THAT YOU WONT BY ANOTHER FIGHT, DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT YOUR 1 BUY WOULD DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN MAKE YOU MISS SOME REALLY GOOD FIGHTS. IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT BY-ALL-MEANS DO IT IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER, WE ALL KNOW MATT HAMILL WON THE FIGHT, BUT THE IDEA OF MISSING SOME REALLY GOOD FIGHTS INCLUDING THE UFC DEBUT OF SHOGUN IS SOMETHING I AM NOT READ TO DO——–GOOD LUCK IN YOUR STAND

I really hope that everyone that thinks Hamill won did sing the petetion thing linked above. It really takes 5 seconds.

LAY AND PRAY AND WILDLY SWINGING PUNCHES DO NOT WIN FIGHTS. learn the sport people

NOW THE UFC IS FIXED???????????DANA YOUR A CHUMP FOR NOT DOING ANYTHING AT THE FIGHT. EVERYONE SAW HAMILL BEAT THE PISS OUT OF PISSTHING. AND HIS BOXING WAS MUCH IMPROVED! LITTLE ODD THOUGH WHY AN OLYMPIC WRESTLER DIDNT JUST CHOKE HIS ASS OUT ON THE GROUND

Yeah, this was complete BS, imo. I’m a Bisping fan and this smelled like a fix even to me!

[quote comment=”146658″][quote comment=”146521″]Whoever is looking for an apology from the UFC for the Hamill-Bisping fight is queer.
Hamill took bisbing down like 3 or 4 times and did NOTHING
with the takedowns. THATS why Bisping won.
Who gives a shit if you take some one down and can’t do dik with it.It actually helped Bisping establish the notion that
Hamill Couldn’t caspitalize on the takedown.
Octagon control. Hamill couldn’t control Bisping.
One time for Randy[/quote]

I partially agree. Hammill didn’t do much damage on the ground. However, takedowns are worth points. Hammill also was able to attain the top position everytime it was on the ground. I know Bisping escaped here and there but escapes are usually worth less points than takedowns (in wrestling, at least - I don’t know exactly how UFC score cards are set up).

Hammill not only had the takedowns, he also maintained ring generalship the entire three rounds making Bisping backpedal the whole fight. I believe aggression is one of the scoring criteria. Is it not? Correct me if I’m wrong.

Matt appeared to be dominating the stand up as well. I would have given him all three 10-9 rounds.

…but again, I don’t know exactly how the score card matrix is set up.[/quote]

I agree Rob. How could anyone argue that Hamill did not control the pace of the fight. There was maybe one round that was questionable. Other than that takedown or no takedown, punches and all… Hamill was the dominating competitor.

El Santo,

I disagree about the Tito fights in general. Lets peal back the onion a little more and look at a bigger picture.

Dana White - Born in Manchester, Connecticut, White grew up in Las Vegas, Boston and Levant, Maine. He attended University of Massachusetts, Boston for two years.[1]

White has a background as an aerobic kickboxing instructor and amateur boxer, but he later gave up as an active fighter and did not turn pro. White’s amateur record is unknown (many assume because it may not exist). In 1992, White established Dana White Enterprises in Las Vegas. He owned three gyms in the Las Vegas area and managed fighers such as Tito Ortiz.

As a manager for UFC fighters Tito Ortiz and Chuck Liddell, White learned that Semaphore Entertainment Group, the parent company of the UFC, was looking for a buyer for the UFC. White soon contacted Lorenzo Fertitta, a childhood friend, an executive at Station Casinos, and a former commissioner of the Nevada State Athletic Commission. Within a month Lorenzo Fertitta and his older brother Frank Fertitta III bought the UFC, with White installed as its president.[2] White currently owns 10% of Zuffa, LLC, the entity the Fertitta brothers created to own and manage the UFC.[1]

This is from Wikipedia - look for yourself.

I dont know what one can derive from this but I am starting to see a different picture.

[quote comment=”146501″]The majority of Bisping’s shots hit Hamill’s guard. A total joke of a decision.[/quote]

I had Hamill taking the first 2 rounds and losing the third. Bisping did press the action in round 2 though and all Hamill did was score 2 takedowns and lands some shots in a clinch. Bisping landed some jabs. I gave the 2nd round to hamill but if you take a guy down and do nothing than that is the same thing as boxing a guy onto the ropes and then missing every punch. Bispind landed 3 good straight rights in the third and hamill look spent. What is the big outrage here about? It was a competitive fight. By boxing standards this was a slightly bad decision and nobody would have flinched at it. The outrage over this fight just shows you how fair the ufc judging usually is.

What we learned from this fight is that the scoring system sucks. How can you really judge a brutal fight on a rd by rd basis. We ask our judges to judge who won each rd, some of the Bisping Hamil rds were extremely close. In pride, judges were asked to judge the fight as an overall fight which is a much better judging system in my oppinion.

UFC judges are not asked to judge a fight, they are simply asked to judge each rd on a 10-9 point basis, and then adding up the rounds determines the winner of the fight. There has to be more emphasis on the fight as a whole instead of this rd by rd crap. Hamil had a huge 1st rd.the next 2 rd’s could have went either way. If it were A fight in PRIDE, then Hamil shoulda won, as a fight in the UFC, I’m not so sure if Hamil should have won anymore.

Bob, weave, engage, not bob, weave, back petal, block.

Jabs are pop shots that don’t do much except cut up your opponent. Putting your opponent in a bulldog choke and throw uppercuts, that’s a different ball game all together.

Hamill won, know your sport.[quote comment=”146712″]LAY AND PRAY AND WILDLY SWINGING PUNCHES DO NOT WIN FIGHTS. learn the sport people[/quote]

By the way, I’ll bet if Hamill wanted, he could have layed the entire time. Instead, he knew he was winding Bisping by taking him down HARD.

[quote comment=”146597″]The UFC is quickly becoming boxing …. fixed matches. I have been watching the UFC since UFC 1 and was disgusted by the outcome of the Bisping-Hamil fight. Isn’t it ironic that one judge gives all three rounds to Hamil and the other two judges gave one round to Hamil and two rounds to Bisping. It was almost comical. I understand the business part and wanting to expand to other countries, after all it’s all about the $$$$, but give me a break.

Bisping has a huge set of balls coming off saying at the end, that we all know who the real TUF winner is .. .I know who the real winner is, it’s Matt Hamil. Get it together Dana White or your going to become boxing … i’m out![/quote]

Took the words out of my mouth! Stopped watching professional boxing because of bad/crooked judges, decisions based on money outcomes and because two men weighing in at 240 or so cannot hit each other over ten rounds with any impact. Hamil was fighting, Bisping surviving. Obvious catering to the potential larger European audience. As the purses and the gross became larger and larger, we should have seen this coming. Maybe the judges should have to go into the cage and announce their decisions in front of the fans!

This fight was like watching a hummingbird fight a squirrel. Bisping running around, getting thrown down, stumbling to get out of the way and the Hamill swatting him down, controlling him on the ground and inflicted shots from the standing and head lock positions.

Things to consider - striking, in order to be effective, needs to be HEAVY handed. Bisping was mostly like a hummingbird trying to sip some nectar.

Bisping did not effectively grapple.
Bisping did not control the fighting area.
Bisping did not have effective aggressiveness - at times he started to and Hamill took him down or hit him with a left jab.

Listen, Bisping is a great athlete and a very good fighter. However, the art of taking someone down and controlling the ring are skill sets that are under appreciated. Bisping showed little respect for these qualities in his words and his Attitude about this fight.

Things to consider from the UFC web site.

WHAT is MIXED MARTIAL ARTS?
Mixed martial arts (MMA) is an intense and evolving combat sport in which competitors use interdisciplinary forms of fighting that include jiu-jitsu, judo, karate, boxing, kickboxing, wrestling and others to their strategic and tactical advantage in a supervised match. Scoring for mixed martial arts events in Nevada, New Jersey, Massachusetts, and Florida is based on athletic-commission approved definitions and rules for striking (blows with the hands, feet, knees or elbows) and grappling (submission, choke holds, throws or takedowns). No single discipline reigns.

Hamill won - something smells.

________________________________________________

Dana White
Zuffa, LLC
2960 West Sahara Avenue
Suite 100
Las Vegas, NV 89102
Tel: (702) 221-4780

http://www.petitiononline.com/UFC75hb/petition.html

I agree with everyone who thinks that Hamill was robbed, but thats ok, lets just have the rematch in the US this time so those british judges cant rob Hamill twice.

[quote comment=”146773″]I agree with everyone who thinks that Hamill was robbed, but thats ok, lets just have the rematch in the US this time so those british judges cant rob Hamill twice.[/quote]
THE BRITISH JUDGE WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO SCORED THE FIGHT IN FAVOR OF HAMMILL, READ AND LEARN BEFORE YOU SPEAK. THE TWO JUDGES WHO SCORED THE FIGHT IN FAVOR OF BISPING WERE FROM THE USA

This fight was complete BS! Hamill won this fight hands down, no questions asked. Makes you wonder what the outcome would have been if it was in the US.

Wrong answer, Dana White. Personally, I have no interest in seeing a rematch. Bisping took Hamill lightly and he lost.

The letter “W” is slowly becoming the most useless character in the alphabet.

Bisping showed his true character when he tell Hammill (who in my opinion won the fight) to “go back to wrestling!” I don’t think Bisping will take the fight when offer by what’s his name Dana why not fix the fight White. Bisping was obviously suffering from a large case of delusion if he thinks he acutally won!

Hamill definitely won the fight. Bisping’s punches landed on Hamill’s arms for the most part. Hamill controlled the ground game and inflicted more damage. The UFC needs to be careful that they do not end up looking like boxing. With the appearance of matches being fixed in boxing the UFC now looks like they are promoting the same type of dishonesty that drove many fans to MMA in the first place. I made the comment and I stand by it, “if there are many more decisions like the Hamill-Bisping decision then I will be done with UFC because it will simply be another form of WWE entertainment.”

I HATE Mike Bisbing.

Bisping fought like dog shit…whatever that fights like lol…He was crap and he looked like he was on jelly legs the whole fight.

I went over to London (I’m Irish) for the event and WAS a Bisping fan but the dopey dickhead shot himself in the foot with his post match comments. What a puppet.

Matt Hamill has gained another fan.

Even some English people booed the decision and those that cheered were like: “Yeah…We lost but we won…Ing-Er-Land. Ing-Er-Land.” It was funny.

The funniest moment was the dirty looks I got when cheering for Marcus Davis.

Why a rematch? Everyone knows who won the first time. Get Hamill a tougher opponent.

However, I do like HeadKnocks UFN: Rematch idea! You can add Gray Maynard vs. Robert Emerson as the swing bout to that card.

Matt Hamil could not of demonstrated a more relaxed, stand-up and take down artist around. Dana White should be ashamed of himself allowing such a most political score-card. Hamil should be given the utmost respect and admiration of what a great fighter he is and a gracious role-model. As we all know, Matt performed and outboxed, scored a lopsided victory over this ego-centric phoney Bisping. What is it with this punk, he will get his day of reality real soon. Even if he moves down to 185 lbs. He will go down as a big bag of sour wind. My hat is off to your Matt Hamill, You are champion beyond what White or anyone else trying to play with your career. Keep your head up for you are soundly a champion.

Ban PPV untill this matter is resolved…A rematch is not fair for Matt…he has to win twice for one win on his record??!! Not fair enouugh…BAN PPV untill they rid the judges or reverse the decision…Rematch is such a cop out for Dana and all the organization…BAN PPV..

Damn those British judges for robbing Hammill - clearly they favoured the Brit…oh wait the two judges who scored for Bisping were Americans? And it was the British judge who scored it for Hammill - well lets not let the facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory! Clearly the judges being American is only meant to make the decision look “legitimate” and confuse us all from Dana White’s sinister motives of buying British affection with rigged fights apparantly Hammill being deaf didn’t hear Dana’s instructions that he was suposed to take a dive in the third round.

[quote comment=”146497″]I DONT KNOW HOW DANA GAVE BISPING ROUND 2??? BUT EITHER WAY THIS REMATCH BETTER BE FREE ON SPIKE, AND THEY SHOULD HOOK THE CARD UP WITH TITO ORTIZ VS RASHAD EVANS REMATCH..AND ALSO MANNY GAMBURYAN VS NATE DIAZ MATCH..UFC OWE’S THE FANS A BIG NIGHT AND AN EXPLAINATION,APOLOGY,AND SECURITY THAT IT WONT HAPPEN AGIAN!! THIS FREE REMATCH SHOULD BE ASAP…..
look all i want is for Dana White to admit they f’d up, apologize and hook up a great !!FREE!! rematch, with other great fights!! I DON’T WANT UFC AND MMA TO GO DOWN LIKE BOXING!!!…If you agree with this? spread the word and maybe they will compensate such a teribble decision… I WANT BISPING/HAMMIL..ORTIZ/EVANS..DIAZ/GAMBURYAN…FREE..FREE.FREE….SPREAD THE WORD….MAKE IT HAPPEN……..[/quote]
Good idea, UFC 79…the Rematches!

what a horrible segway to the most important fight in MMA history - seeing michael bisping’s hand raised

id like to hear from just one person besides those 2 judges that bisping deserved the victory…matt hamill was robbed

cecil peoples needs to be fired…he doesnt even understand his own job….there are no points for appearing less winded than your opponent-as he stated he thought bisping was- and there are MAJOR points for taking your opponent down - which hamill did several times…he also had more productive punches…can you imagine if peoples keeps his job and has to explain a decision again? (”Well, kongo seemed a lot more cut and he was a much more adequate representation of the ideal human physique, so thats why i gave him the decision over sylvia.”)

the only person who can attempt to right this wrong is dana white himself, and he has proven himself more than capable with the ortiz/shamrock 3 event which was free on spike…theres a great probability white wont even get the chance; bisping may continue to tell himself he was the better fighter that night and then move down to 185 immediately…

HEADKNOCK is right, in a perfect world a hamill/bisping, ortiz/evans, diaz/ gamburyan fight card would happen, but we dont live in that perfect world, because if we did fedor would also be signed AND want to fight couture

[quote comment=”146908″]Damn those British judges for robbing Hammill - clearly they favoured the Brit…oh wait the two judges who scored for Bisping were Americans? And it was the British judge who scored it for Hammill - well lets not let the facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory! Clearly the judges being American is only meant to make the decision look “legitimate” and confuse us all from Dana White’s sinister motives of buying British affection with rigged fights apparantly Hammill being deaf didn’t hear Dana’s instructions that he was suposed to take a dive in the third round.[/quote]

not to say that is was a conspiracy, but if it were, it would probably been done by those closest to the center of the operation. i suppose that the american judges voting kind of supports the conspiracy. you wouldnt trust someone from the outside - just my 2 cents

bisbing gave nothing Hammil ran the show and was robbed
bisbing is a posh jerk that has the class to use the f-word
in front of his child on national t.v.

Well, we just have to wait a couple of months for Bisping to heal. In the meantime, Matt can relax those heavy hands on a beach somewhere knowing full well he gets to use them again to “Count” someone out.

[quote comment=”146895″]Why a rematch? Everyone knows who won the first time. Get Hamill a tougher opponent.
quote]

Haha, I absolutely agree, why rematch such a dominated fight. Rematches are for fights that were close.

[quote comment=”146908″]Damn those British judges for robbing Hammill - clearly they favoured the Brit…oh wait the two judges who scored for Bisping were Americans? And it was the British judge who scored it for Hammill - well lets not let the facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory! Clearly the judges being American is only meant to make the decision look “legitimate” and confuse us all from Dana White’s sinister motives of buying British affection with rigged fights apparantly Hammill being deaf didn’t hear Dana’s instructions that he was suposed to take a dive in the third round.[/quote]

It doesn’t matter to me which judges RIPED-OFF Hamill…, the fact remains, two of the judges GAVE…, I say G…A…V…E the win to Bisping.

I am sure that if the fight did not go Bispings way the Brits would probably start throwing tea bags again in the river. Does not mean it is right but UFC pumped this up to the point a riot probably would have happened. Hey, Tommy Lee and Kid Rock got into a fight at the VMA awards..It doesn’t take much.

The ugly fact that Bisping made statements to cover up his embarrassment. He either really believes he won the fight or he was still recovering from the “Beat Down” that Professor Hamill gave to him.

We all know Hamill won. Sign the petition, write UFC, leave a message for Bisping on http://www.bisping.tv and call Jennifer (Director of UFC Public Relations)She sounds kinda hot. I did all that. If everyone simply does there part then Dana will get the message and he will give us a rematch. Either way there will not be a reversal of the match. This would do more damage than what has already been caused.

By the way, London is calling. They want there tampon back Bisping. Someone has to stop the bleeding if you won’t.

Bla, Bla, Blas…excuses, excuses…Hamill Won Hands Down!!!!

Fire the two Judges!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Haha do ya’ll notice the lack of Bisbing supporters/fans on this blog? He has no real defense on this issue haha, that’s how you konw its’ real bad. All those Bisbing fans disappeared. Real fans they are.

Bisping won the last two rounds because Hamill ran out of gas, end of story.

Take downs with out any punishment or submission attempts should not be rewarded.

The only question I have is… Why didn’t Bisping hurt Hamil to the body, when Hamil was covering his whole head with his arms?!?

STOP! Pitying the deaf guy.

He did better then everyone thought he would, but he did not do enough.

1 Word… CARDIO!

this is completely rediculous. Who wants to see a rematch of a completely one sided fight (I’m talking of course about how Hammels dominated every round). A rematch makes no sense overturn the decision and fire both of the judges. Just look at the poll on UFC.com 91% think Hammels one and the 9% is probably crazy Brits who love Bisbing. I also lost a lot of respect for Bisbing after the way he celebrated after the decision and made no acknowledgement that Hammels should have gotten the nod in his post fight press conference. I mean obviously he’s not gonna say I lost overturn it but come on saying you completely controlled the 2nd and 3rd rounds is just absurd and shows a complete lack of respect towards your opponent and the sport of mma.

I liked Bisping before this fight. Now I think he’s a jackass. I wasn’t high on Hamill before the fight. But now I’m going to root for him everytime he fights. I’m a fan of the guys who are gracious after a fight, win, lose or draw. That is why Randy is so beloved. The guy has class. Hamill showed class despite being robbed of the victory.

[quote comment=”146637″]Ok….i can honestly say, even after his poor effort saturday, that i’m a bisping fan. i think usually hes a good fighter, and yes he’s cocky but name one fighter for me that isn’t, you have to be. and it was a very boring fight, i think really any fight with hammill is going to be boring because of his style. that said, it doesn’t matter if it looks good or not, a win is a win and hammill won. i like the idea of letting dana know your feelings with a petition, but it doesn’t mention anything that you want to be done about it. i don’t think you can really over turn the decision but i’m sure theres something somebody else wants done about it[/quote]You want to know fighters that aren’t cocky? How bout Randy Couture, Georges St. Pierre, even Chuck Lidell I wouldn’t consider cocky. I guarentee every top fighter is extremely confident and believes they are the best fighter in the world but that is completely different from thinking that you can treat everyone like crap and show a complete lack of respect for your opponents. I do agree with your point about the petition though I would like it to be petitioning that they overrule the decision beacause as it stands we are basically just showing our disaproval of the decision which I think they know about consideringa 91% vote that Hammels shoulda won on there own website but I guess it does show another level of disaprovel then just by a poll so it is okay but I would like it to be a little more direct as to what we want done about it.

There’s a lot of remarks surrounding the fact that Bisping won this fight on the back of the fact that he was fighting in the UK and that it would be detrimental to the UFC/UK promotion push by Dana White if he lost. Whilst there’s good evidence to support this I think that it would do him more harm than good if he adopted this strategy as the UFC creeps across the world stage.
He has based his gameplan on being the total opposite to boxing with regard to the fight fixing and the money oriented pitfalls that befell boxing in the first place.
I really enjoyed TUF3 and watching the “rise” of Bisping. I understand that he flaws in his game and has a long way to go. The 205lb weight class is too much for him - he is probably not in the top 10 in my book and not much higher in the 185 class. He has a lot to do but I believe he will do it someday - and it’s great to see an English fighter on the world stage.
Believe me, as an English MMA fan, I do not wish to see Bisping or any other fighter win just because he is on home soil - it’s not right. If DW palnned it this way then it’s backfired on him in the biggest way possible and he deserves it. Also, the UK doesn’t need it - it doesn’t need a UK fighter to ram it home to the public - we are already here waiting with bated breath! Cage Rage has been around here for some time selling out Wembley Arena as it did on the same night that the UFC came to Manchester earlier this year when Cro-Cop was Cro-Copped.
But, what is the old adage in MMA? “Don’t leave it to the judges”. Hamill did and it’s his loss - he should have capitalised on his takedowns. That said, my verdict: Hamill victory.
The UFC is the greatest thing to happen in the fightgame in many years - it is a cold blast of fresh air and long may it continue.

Wow..I WAS a huge Bisping fan until after this fight. He was fierce, tireless, and had all the upside in the world. But after his post-fight comments, he’s star appeal is losing its luster fast.

The reason GSP and Randy are are such beloved fighters, is because they show true class. Win or lose, they respect their oppenent…speak highly of them when the fight is done..and move onto the next fight. Its a simple formula for you fighters reading this somewhat insignificant post.

Fighters that show true respect for their opponent get respect from the fans. Period. Win or Lose.

Honestly…how can the Judge Peoples score a bout because he “feels that Hamill was getting tired”. Its not the perception of the fight you’re judging you idiot. Its the COLD HARD FACTS!

Hamill could score take-downs at will in that fight. Even Goldie and Rogan commented on that fact, and the fact that Hamill even allowed Bisping to stand up and restart action on their feet because Hamill’s standup was more effective and more aggressive.

Fixed?

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck…

[quote comment=”146679″][quote comment=”146672″]I hate to admit it, but I can see how the judges awarded this fight to Bisping. I’ve watched this fight three times to be more impartial and to be fair it could really have gone either way. I didn’t think so at first, and had the same reaction as everyone else when the announcement came out that Bisping won, but as I watched the fight a second time then once again after that, Hamill looked less impressive each time.

Although Hamill stalked Bisping in the cage and tossed him to the ground repeatedly, he wasn’t effective in any aspect of the fight except in punches. His only true weapon was a right cross, which really doesn’t look good from a technical standpoint.

Hamill looked like the aggressor because he was stalking Bisping, but many fighters have a “stick and move” style of fighting, which should not be minimized just because it doesn’t look as aggressive at first blush — or else we’d pretty much see nothing but Mike Tyson-esque brawlers trying to run into each other in every fight. That gets old. We have to allow every fighter to bring his own style into each fight, then as fans have the basic understanding to appreciate each style. That’s our one responsibility as fight fans.

Remember that Bisping was trained by Juanito coming into this fight, and I am sure that Juanito knew Hamill was much stronger and tends to have a constant and relentless Terminator-style forward movement in his fights. If I were training Bisping, I too would have said to stick and move because you’re faster. Keep stinging him and just outbox him because that’s pretty much the best you can do against a bigger and stronger Hamill with the constant threat of a takedown. Basically turn this fight into a “Boxer” (Muhammad Ali) vs. “Slugger” (George Foreman) bout. It seemed to work — just barely.

It looks like Bisping was running away the entire fight, but watching again I can see that his strategy was to have a lot of space-creating strikes (jabs) and then look for openings. It was obvious to me that Bisping knew he wouldn’t ko Hamill and was just going to chop the monster down over three rounds, no matter what bullshit he spoke pre-fight.

Just my opinion.[/quote]

Brilliant summation.

No shit, I appreciate your against the grain of popular opinion approach which cuts through to the underlying truth of the matter that is deviod of bias or “favorite fighter” emotion.

Just the facts… Bisping won “Fair and Square” as Hamill said.[/quote]

don’t misquote Hamill. In fact, he said, “I thought I won the fight” right after that quote. So, you’re taking it out of context.

Half you guys crack me up. Its not an ‘us’ vs. ‘them’ thing when it comes to the decision. So stop the ‘F the brits’ and ‘Bisping should fight in the US!; shit. Its just fanboy BS. Be a FIGHT fan and enjoy THE FIGHT. Yeah, Hammil got robbed, but things are going in the motions to get a rematch, hide the manginas and stop bitching and PLEASE stop acting like you’re starting a revolt.

Dana,

Good to see that you have taken you testicles out of the moth balls and posted something on your site. Over 90% of the UFC fans on you web page feel Hamill won. With 21 seconds left in the second round Rogan and G-man had Hamill dominate.

Interestingly Mullens try to spin this by saying that depending on your angle of the fight you cant see how Bisping was getting in his jabs. What a pile of garbage.

Are people suppose to buy this crap. How about all the fans in the o2 arena who thought Hamill won the fight. For you to sit back and say to the fighters, “well, you should never leave it in the Judges hands.” What a cop out.

Listen, the fighters should have implicit trust in a system if they train and fight appropriately that there be fair, accurate and just scoring. You are a true vagina for taking such a weak stance. Man up and get a pair.

Zuffa LLC has strong connections with athletic commissions. This organization is becoming becoming a farce with its stand back and let the soap opera sell the tickets posture. Take a stand against this crap for the fans have more integrity and will not support this garbage over the long run. Did you shave all the hair off you body? Man up and take a stance.

[quote comment=”147158″][quote comment=”146679″][quote comment=”146672″]I hate to admit it, but I can see how the judges awarded this fight to Bisping. I’ve watched this fight three times to be more impartial and to be fair it could really have gone either way. I didn’t think so at first, and had the same reaction as everyone else when the announcement came out that Bisping won, but as I watched the fight a second time then once again after that, Hamill looked less impressive each time.

Although Hamill stalked Bisping in the cage and tossed him to the ground repeatedly, he wasn’t effective in any aspect of the fight except in punches. His only true weapon was a right cross, which really doesn’t look good from a technical standpoint.

Hamill looked like the aggressor because he was stalking Bisping, but many fighters have a “stick and move” style of fighting, which should not be minimized just because it doesn’t look as aggressive at first blush — or else we’d pretty much see nothing but Mike Tyson-esque brawlers trying to run into each other in every fight. That gets old. We have to allow every fighter to bring his own style into each fight, then as fans have the basic understanding to appreciate each style. That’s our one responsibility as fight fans.

Remember that Bisping was trained by Juanito coming into this fight, and I am sure that Juanito knew Hamill was much stronger and tends to have a constant and relentless Terminator-style forward movement in his fights. If I were training Bisping, I too would have said to stick and move because you’re faster. Keep stinging him and just outbox him because that’s pretty much the best you can do against a bigger and stronger Hamill with the constant threat of a takedown. Basically turn this fight into a “Boxer” (Muhammad Ali) vs. “Slugger” (George Foreman) bout. It seemed to work — just barely.

It looks like Bisping was running away the entire fight, but watching again I can see that his strategy was to have a lot of space-creating strikes (jabs) and then look for openings. It was obvious to me that Bisping knew he wouldn’t ko Hamill and was just going to chop the monster down over three rounds, no matter what bullshit he spoke pre-fight.

Just my opinion.[/quote]

Brilliant summation.

No shit, I appreciate your against the grain of popular opinion approach which cuts through to the underlying truth of the matter that is deviod of bias or “favorite fighter” emotion.

Just the facts… Bisping won “Fair and Square” as Hamill said.[/quote]

don’t misquote Hamill. In fact, he said, “I thought I won the fight” right after that quote. So, you’re taking it out of context.[/quote]

Yes, Hamill, did in fact, say ” I thought I won the fight”. Don’t take his “integrity”, and “class”, after the fight, out of context! Unlike Bisping, he handled himself like the “real” winner that he was……

UFC.com poll on who do you think should been awarded the decision Michael Bisping or Matt Hammil?

9.99% Pisping
90.01% Hammil

I think the people have spoken.

Joe Rogan lost much respect. I fully expected him to say something. His lack of words screamed of a rigged fight to me. Randy at least had the balls to say in the Rampage fight to not leave it up to the judges, and Rogan quietly says “yeah” is all.

[quote comment=”147219″]Joe Rogan lost much respect. I fully expected him to say something. His lack of words screamed of a rigged fight to me. Randy at least had the balls to say in the Rampage fight to not leave it up to the judges, and Rogan quietly says “yeah” is all.[/quote]

I noticed that one to..Even Mike Goldberg…towards the end of the second I think he said something like..

” Could you of thought this would be a stand up battle and that Matt Hammil would be winning it..” with Joe agreeing.

[quote post=”3286″]Joe Rogan lost much respect. I fully expected him to say something. His lack of words screamed of a rigged fight to me. Randy at least had the balls to say in the Rampage fight to not leave it up to the judges, and Rogan quietly says “yeah” is all. [/quote]

EXACTLY!!! Joe Rogan has the biggest mouth and is one of the most opinionated people around. Since the decision came out the way it did, and Rogan said NOTHING, he didn’t even sound surprised. Shit, he should have been surprised at the judges even if Hamill won a split decision. I don’t know any judge could have Bisping winning. But the FACT the Rogan said NOTHING in regards to the decision is SUPER FISHY. I smell cover up of a fixed fight!!!!!!

[quote comment=”146497″]I DONT KNOW HOW DANA GAVE BISPING ROUND 2??? BUT EITHER WAY THIS REMATCH BETTER BE FREE ON SPIKE, AND THEY SHOULD HOOK THE CARD UP WITH TITO ORTIZ VS RASHAD EVANS REMATCH..AND ALSO MANNY GAMBURYAN VS NATE DIAZ MATCH..UFC OWE’S THE FANS A BIG NIGHT AND AN EXPLAINATION,APOLOGY,AND SECURITY THAT IT WONT HAPPEN AGIAN!! THIS FREE REMATCH SHOULD BE ASAP…..
look all i want is for Dana White to admit they f’d up, apologize and hook up a great !!FREE!! rematch, with other great fights!! I DON’T WANT UFC AND MMA TO GO DOWN LIKE BOXING!!!…If you agree with this? spread the word and maybe they will compensate such a teribble decision… I WANT BISPING/HAMMIL..ORTIZ/EVANS..DIAZ/GAMBURYAN…FREE..FREE.FREE….SPREAD THE WORD….MAKE IT HAPPEN……..[/quote]

that would be a good idea havin all those rematches that are unsettled bussiness u should be the match maker lol

[quote comment=”147399″][quote post=”3286″]Joe Rogan lost much respect. I fully expected him to say something. His lack of words screamed of a rigged fight to me. Randy at least had the balls to say in the Rampage fight to not leave it up to the judges, and Rogan quietly says “yeah” is all. [/quote]

EXACTLY!!! Joe Rogan has the biggest mouth and is one of the most opinionated people around. Since the decision came out the way it did, and Rogan said NOTHING, he didn’t even sound surprised. Shit, he should have been surprised at the judges even if Hamill won a split decision. I don’t know any judge could have Bisping winning. But the FACT the Rogan said NOTHING in regards to the decision is SUPER FISHY. I smell cover up of a fixed fight!!!!!![/quote]

is it possible 2 fix a fight cuz fights in mma are so unpredictable matt hamill could of knocked him out at any time wot wud they have done then

MAN!!!!!!!!!! Im a huge Bing’ fan! But Matt kicked that guys ass and still lost??? The Ufc is a flipping twilight zone!

[quote comment=”147399″][quote post=”3286″]Joe Rogan lost much respect. I fully expected him to say something. His lack of words screamed of a rigged fight to me. Randy at least had the balls to say in the Rampage fight to not leave it up to the judges, and Rogan quietly says “yeah” is all. [/quote]

EXACTLY!!! Joe Rogan has the biggest mouth and is one of the most opinionated people around. Since the decision came out the way it did, and Rogan said NOTHING, he didn’t even sound surprised. Shit, he should have been surprised at the judges even if Hamill won a split decision. I don’t know any judge could have Bisping winning. But the FACT the Rogan said NOTHING in regards to the decision is SUPER FISHY. I smell cover up of a fixed fight!!!!!![/quote]
I agree it is very fishy. Its not like Rogan has never spoken during a fight that he disagreed with a decision. The Evans vs. Bonner fight where Evans clearly won and it was a majority decision win instead of unanimous i remember him saying how bad that was for one judge to rule it a draw and also the Clay Gaudia vs Tyson Griffin i remember him saying he tought Gaudia shoulda won yet he says nothing after this fight. Also maybe this is just cause Bravo couldnt make it to England or something but this is the first one I remember them not going to Eddie Bravo to see how he scored the round in the last two fights. What makes it smell even more fishy is that Dana White comes out right away and says we’ll have a rematch.

WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT DANA? HAMIL GOT EVERY ROUND I THOUGHT THEY WERE JK N WHEN THEY GAVE 1 ROUND TO THE CUNT!!

SO ARE YOU GOING TO RIG THAT FIGHT TOO?!!

[quote comment=”146521″]Whoever is looking for an apology from the UFC for the Hamill-Bisping fight is queer.
Hamill took bisbing down like 3 or 4 times and did NOTHING
with the takedowns. THATS why Bisping won.
Who gives a shit if you take some one down and can’t do dik with it.It actually helped Bisping establish the notion that
Hamill Couldn’t caspitalize on the takedown.
Octagon control. Hamill couldn’t control Bisping.
One time for Randy[/quote]
Listen, Hamill is one of the most talented wrestlers in the UFC. His ground game is as dominant as Tito Ortiz. The last time I saw him fight he got booed for taking the other guy down and bashing him. After the fight he appologized to the crowd for the way he fought and said the next time he would try to be more exciting. If he had wanted to crush Bisping with the ground and pound you best believe Bisping would have gotten crushed. As it was he fought Bispings fight and won it that way. (90% of UFC fans agree) The truth is that Hamill should be undefeated. Screw a rematch. I move that the decision be overturned and the judges be investigated. It was that bad. No doubt you disagree. You are obviously being led by some alterior motive the fight speaks for itself Bisping got rocked plain and simple. End of discussion.

[quote comment=”146501″]The majority of Bisping’s shots hit Hamill’s guard. A total joke of a decision.[/quote]

Exactly. Its about time someone pointed this out. Hammil’s hands were low when he was outside range, but he did a great job of getting his hands up and covering up. Very few of Bisping’s punches were landing and fewer still did any damage.

I went into the fight a huge Bisping fan, but there’s no question Hammil took that fight and I felt sick watching the decision. If the UFC doesn’t take a proactive position on improved judging, they will poison their sport, like boxing.

dana white vs. joe rogan in ufc 79!!!

[quote comment=”147907″][quote comment=”146501″]The majority of Bisping’s shots hit Hamill’s guard. A total joke of a decision.[/quote]

Exactly. Its about time someone pointed this out. Hammil’s hands were low when he was outside range, but he did a great job of getting his hands up and covering up. Very few of Bisping’s punches were landing and fewer still did any damage.

I went into the fight a huge Bisping fan, but there’s no question Hammil took that fight and I felt sick watching the decision. If the UFC doesn’t take a proactive position on improved judging, they will poison their sport, like boxing.[/quote]

same here,

You can tell its money and favors that run the UFC now –what a joke!

That fight wasn’t even close! Hamill should have won 30-27 on all cards. Michigan football is more competitive than Bisping was!!!

Ok they fought in england give Hamill the chance to fight in his hometown of Cincy @ ufc 77. They need to have a better fight card fot that show since the BITCH tito isn’t a true fighter and won’t fight anywhere only where he thinks he can win !!! Hope Rashad beats that ass.

[quote comment=”146493″]BS… bisping is a chump
when hamill learns how to box he will be a monster[/quote]

Well.. Not only UFC screw up, They actually screw lot of DEAF people around the country.
Every DEAF people were cheering for Matt Hamill. Only the few that knew who Matt is felt even more sick. I personally know matt hamill and hes a great guy. He has manner and respect for anyone. They shouldnt take advantage of his DEAFNESS, Knowing he won the fight at Bisping’s home. Bisping or the Judges didnt want to be embarrassed by giving a win to a DEAF person.. That is very very wrong. There better be a rematch and I would love to know when? so i can buy ticket earlier with my boys…

Ahhhh!
Matt “The Hammer” Hamill definetely won the match againist Michael “The Bully Chicken” Bisping which is not difficult decision to judge the winner between them!!! Oh man, I hardly miss Shootfighting, UFC, or PFC since for years and years. I feel sorry for Matt Hamill as the terrible decision that two judges has made while 90 percent of viewers believed that Matt did won. That isn’t close vote and obviously unfair and should be investigated. Maybe UFC should create new invention such as after the judges makes their decision, polls vote after the day one will be figured out so that we can see if the votes are agreeable or not. If not… there should be an appeal and find out the truth then decision can be made by juries and judge. That will satisify a lot of us if something like Matt and Michael’s match complaints. Now, Matt has recorded one loss which should have won or tied that match but it was kind of insane to see that he lost to someone that he thought that he won and his thought are absoultely correct but he did have several errors in that fight and still has earned more points than Michael through the whole fight. That is wonderful to see that there will be a rematch coming up soon and I’m looking forward to it and believe that it should be in Matt Hamill’s hometown for the next event but most important thing is that they will have a rematch as soon as possible!!!

To: Matt Hamill

I would like to say something to Matt Hamill,in case he would read this message. I don’t know you but if you are going to fight Michael “The Bully Chicken” Bisping sometime soon and please don’t chase him all the rounds. If he runs away like a chicken then let him go and say ” BAW! BAW! BAW!” Actually, I wished you would’ve said that before so that the whole fans and judges can start to realize that Michael is so FRIGHTENED from you hammering punches and decides to run around to avoid your beautiful devastating hammer punches!!! I wish you the best and KICK HIS HAULIN’ ASS!!! Whooooo!
Your fan, Darren Green.

[quote comment=”155755″]Ahhhh!
Matt “The Hammer” Hamill definetely won the match againist Michael “The Bully Chicken” Bisping which is not difficult decision to judge the winner between them!!!

Oh man, I hardly miss Shootfighting, UFC, or PFC since for years and years.

I feel sorry for Matt Hamill as the terrible decision that two judges has made while 90 percent of viewers believed that Matt did won. That isn’t close vote and obviously unfair and should be investigated. Maybe UFC should create new invention such as after the judges makes their decision, polls vote after the day one will be figured out so that we can see if the votes are agreeable or not. If not… there should be an appeal and find out the truth then decision can be made by juries and judge. That will satisify a lot of us if something like Matt and Michael’s match complaints. Now, Matt has recorded one loss which should have won or tied that match but it was kind of insane to see that he lost to someone that he thought that he won and his thought are absoultely correct but he did have several errors in that fight and still has earned more points than Michael through the whole fight. That is wonderful to see that there will be a rematch coming up soon and I’m looking forward to it and believe that it should be in Matt Hamill’s hometown for the next event but most important thing is that they will have a rematch as soon as possible!!!

To: Matt Hamill

I would like to say something to Matt Hamill,in case he would read this message.

I don’t know you but if you are going to fight Michael “The Bully Chicken” Bisping sometime soon and please don’t chase him all the rounds. If he runs away like a chicken then let him go and say ” BAW! BAW! BAW!” Actually, I wished you would’ve said that before so that the whole fans and judges can start to realize that Michael is so FRIGHTENED from you hammering punches and decides to run around to avoid your beautiful devastating hammer punches!!!

I wish you the best and KICK HIS HAULIN’ ASS!!! Whooooo!
Your fan, Darren Green.[/quote]

Hamill is an ox no class no style waster. Bisping is a future champ take it from me

[quote comment=”149980″]That fight wasn’t even close! Hamill should have won 30-27 on all cards. Michigan football is more competitive than Bisping was!!![/quote]

Were you watching the same fight!!!!!!!!! Hamill is no way or never wil be a fighter

Rematch is taking too long to take place! Dana White is a bitch for not making this happen before either one fights one more time!

Hey Bisping, you’re a LOSER! Hamill made you look like a bitch. Have a good day.

Alright, so I’m a wrestler and I know how scoring works, so let me ask this…if I start on top, let him stand up (one point) but then throw him or wrestle him to the ground and get his back, that’s 2 points, right…? So my point is, although Hamill didn’t do anything with the takedowns, that should still be worth more in the judge’s eyes then hamill practically letting bisping stand up. So, where the hell do they get off basically throwing away hamill’s multiple EASY take downs? I also saw Hamill landing much more and more effective punches than Bisping, I really don’t think cecil peoples was watching the same fight…