
PRIDE FC Heavyweight Champion — and the most coveted mixed martial arts free agent on the planet — Fedor Emelianenko was not introduced last night as the latest big-name talent to join the UFC organization.
The news (or lack thereof) was a major let down mixed martial arts fans who had anticipated a big announcement.
However, his physical absence did not stop ringside announcers Mike Goldberg and Joe Rogan from talking about the Russian throughout the UFC 75: “Champion vs. Champion” telecast.
In fact, at one point during the main event between Rampage Jackson and Dan Henderson, Goldberg mentioned to UFC Heavyweight Champion Randy Couture — who helped out on the mic throughout the championship fight — about the prospects of “The Natural” taking on Emelianenko.
It was bizarre because very rarely does the UFC permit talk about fighters not in its organization during broadcasts much less let it be the topic of conversation on more than one occasion during a major event.
Put simply, all the Fedor Emelianenko talk was not an isolated incident or a slip.
Perhaps it’s a move to publicly pressure Emelianenko and his Red Devil management team back to the negotiating table — there’s still the comment from UFC President Dana White that the most recent talks “didn’t go well.”
Now that the majority of top heavyweight fighters are now in the UFC there are very few options for Emelianenko if he wants to tangle with the best in the sport. Josh Barnett is the only other notable heavyweight currently not under UFC contract.
One thing to keep in mind is that Emelianenko is allegedly very careful about who he faces. Reports indicate, for example, that he does not want to fight former UFC heavyweight champion, Tim Sylvia, because it is a bad style match up.
And after everything that has happened with the recent fall of fellow PRIDE FC alum, Mirko Cro Cop, in the UFC there maybe some serious need for even more caution — Fedor boasts perhaps the most invincible aura in the history of the sport.
It’s a legacy worth protecting … but not forever.
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Fedor is overrated. He better not come to the UFC because Couture and GG will run through him. All those Pride HWs aren’t tough without the dope.
Can you guys link to the “report” that says Fedor doesn’t want to fight Tim Sylvia
The PRIDE Heavyweight division was at a really low level in my opinion. I think Fedor, Cro Cop and Nogueira were really overrated..
they used to fight guys like heath herring who is one of the weakest fighter ever..
In the UFC they are gonna have some serious trouble, we have seen it with Cro Cop, we will see it soon with Big Nog..
Yeah I heard some of that from a Fedor myspace page, his management posted a bulletin saying that Fedor wants at least 2 fights in the UFC before fighting Randy or any top heavyweight. They stopped short of saying that Fedor wanted 2 “easy” fights, but thats what they meant. Not sure how true this is, it was a myspace post, so everyone can take it however they want. Heres my response:
NEWS FLASH FEDOR, YOUR THE NUMBER ONE HEAVYWEIGHT IN THE WORLD!!! That comes at a price my friend, it means you don’t get any easy fights! You don’t get the luxury of saying that you don’t want to fight Sylvia because its a bad style matchup! You will fight the hard fights every time and prove you are #1! I know you already have proved it, but you have to keep doing it.
I mean, seriously who wants to watch Fedor fight Eddie Sanchez or Jake O’Brian (heh).
shamo84 is right. No disrespect to Fedor, but a real champion shouldn’t turn down fights because of conflict of style. That to me is not a champion. He should adapt to the style and rise to the occasion. I honestly think Sylvia has what it takes to give Fedor a good run for his money. I wouldn’t say the Maine-iac would win, but definetly give a stiff challenge to Fedor. As for the rest of the heavyweight division I think Brock Lesnar would be an asset. Throwing him into the mix would really shake things up.
[quote comment="145745"]The PRIDE Heavyweight division was at a really low level in my opinion. I think Fedor, Cro Cop and Nogueira were really overrated..
they used to fight guys like heath herring who is one of the weakest fighter ever..
In the UFC they are gonna have some serious trouble, we have seen it with Cro Cop, we will see it soon with Big Nog..[/quote]
I agree with some of this, certainly with Cro-Cop. As for Nog, he will probably fight Randy next, which is going to be a problem for Randy.
Nog is a smarter, more experienced version of Gonzaga, and with a lot more heart. Lets face it, Gonzaga’s style matched up very bad for Couture, but Couture proved that Gonzaga simply didn’t have the experience to be a threat. He broke his will, Gonzaga gave up.
Big Nog has a very similar fighting style to Gonzaga, Mui Thai and BJJ. The difference is Nog has been in many title bouts, hes also gone the distance with Fedor, he has a champions heart, one of the best in the sport. To make it worse, Randy showed an excellent strategy on how to beat this type of fighter 2 weeks ago (clinch with him and dirty box). This strategy would have worked very well against Nog too, however now Nog has seen it, he will plan for it. I hope Randy can come up with something new for that fight.
So the “Best fighter in the world” wants warm up fights to fight “an old man”………and doesnt want to fight poopie who was destroyed by the same “old man”.
Interesting comments/actions coming from the “Best HW in the World”.
Sick of this guy and all the talks about him. How doesnt the #1 HW in the world want to fight the #2,3,4 …etc.
As the old saying goes, put up or shut up!
sry, should say NOT
“How doesnt the #1 HW in the world NOT want to fight the #2,3,4 …etc.”
[quote comment="145767"]So the “Best fighter in the world” wants warm up fights to fight “an old man”………and doesnt want to fight poopie who was destroyed by the same “old man”.
Interesting comments/actions coming from the “Best HW in the World”.
Sick of this guy and all the talks about him. How doesnt the #1 HW in the world want to fight the #2,3,4 …etc.
As the old saying goes, put up or shut up![/quote]
Exactly!
FYI
http://www.crocop.tk/
Crocrop broke his rib in the first round
FEDOR WILL LOSE TO CAPTAIN AMERICA IN 08.
Ragnar,
Big Nog is no Gonzaga. The dude has no footwork at all, his takedown defense is terrible, he’s got no power in his punches, and his BJJ is over-rated. The only top level guy he subbed is Cro-can for christ’s sake.
IMO, Gonzaga would wipe the floor with Big Nog and so will Couture.
Also, LOL at Big Nog’s Muy thai. The dude barely puts together good punching combinations and haven’t seen many kicks or knees from him.
[quote comment="145776"]FYI
http://www.crocop.tk/
Crocrop broke his rib in the first round[/quote]
Too bad, I had such high hopes for him in the UFC, he could still pull it together, but Im having my doubts now. I really only started watching Pride when it was going under. I hoped to see Cro-Cop come in and give us American fans some good highlight reel knockouts. He did a few months ago, unfortunately he was on the wrong end of it.
OH and Goldberg slipped up last night
“We’ll get Fedor in here, to probably fight this guy right next to us, eh, Randy already knows”
2:50 left in the 4th round Hendo vs Page
I am the biggest loser in the world!!
I actually thought there would be a Fedor announcement last night. Boy, do I look like a d*ckhead on a bunch of other Internet forums…
I don’t think Fedor wants to fight Couture, there has got to be something going on here. Randy is the best heavyweight in the UFC and the world, but he still has this hanging over his head that Fedor is #1. Let Randy prove to the world that Fedor is #2 and get this monkey off his back before he is 50. Damn
On Rampage..for all the page Haters..I love to do this, I TOLD YOU SO!!
[quote comment="145821"]On Rampage..for all the page Haters..I love to do this, I TOLD YOU SO!![/quote]
Yeh Im with you Philqny. I called the Rampage fight, I said that I thought Kongo and Hamil would pull off upsets. Kongo’s was official, Hamil’s wasnt (he got robbed). The only fight I lost was Sakara, and thats just cause I couldnt go with alexander cuz I knew to little about him.
Yeh it seemed bizarre how much they talked about Fedor. It seemed like they knew something about the Fedor situation that we didnt. Its still possible that Dana wants to introduce him to the American public either At Fight night Live or at UFC 76. If he isnt announced by then, I will just stop talking about him.
If wanderlei wants a warm up fight, it should b against Houston Alexander, if not, give Alexander Forrest after Shogun disposes off him. I’m getting really curious to c Alexander fight again.
He didnt have the element of surprise going for him and he still got the 1st rd TKO. Houstons has some serios power behind his punches (uppercutts) and knees (good clinch game).
[quote comment="145821"]On Rampage..for all the page Haters..I love to do this, I TOLD YOU SO!![/quote]
I thought Hendo looked really good. Very technical and very competent. Having said that, Rampage was clearly his equal and more. Rampage’s grappling was very impressive. I’m thinking we’re looking at a champ who’s going to reigning for a while.
His post fight comments were hilarious, too…
[quote comment="145739"]Can you guys link to the “report” that says Fedor doesn’t want to fight Tim Sylvia[/quote]
It’s from a recent print edition of the Dave Meltzer newsletter. Bob Sapp is apparently another opponent Fedor did not want to face in Japan.
[quote comment="145785"]Ragnar,
Big Nog is no Gonzaga. The dude has no footwork at all, his takedown defense is terrible, he’s got no power in his punches, and his BJJ is over-rated. The only top level guy he subbed is Cro-can for christ’s sake.
IMO, Gonzaga would wipe the floor with Big Nog and so will Couture.[/quote]
If you say so, the guy beat everyone in pride HW except Fedor and Barnett. I question Gonzaga’s Muy Thai, all he can do is single punch or kick knockouts, I never see any combos from him. Nog can do combos, and is also very effective with knees. When it comes to BJJ, Id give that to Nog as well, much more wins via submission, much more experience. He holds a win over Werdum as well, where as Gonzaga holds a loss to Werdum.
In any case, my point was about the intangibles, such as heart and experience, both of which Nog has much more of.
Id love to see Nog vs. Gonzaga, perhaps we could find out one day who really is better.
just watched the replay of matt hamil and mike bisping what a croc of shit the ufc just turned into don kings kingdom matt hamil won hands down kicked bispings ass and we cower down and give it to the one in his home country what a bunch of pussies bye ufc no longer my favorite
[quote comment="145781"]FEDOR WILL LOSE TO CAPTAIN AMERICA IN 08.[/quote]
yeh, probably, im settled on the fact that Fedor is NOT the number 1 heavy weight, Couture is. There are a few HW’s out there that could run through Couture – doesnt say much for fedor – as each day goes past, as another UFC event goes past, fedor is slowly falling down the ladder – its true
A CHAMPION WHO WONT FIGHT CERTAIN PEOPLE – RIDICULOUS.
Call Matt Hughes what you want but when he was the champ he didn’t careless who he was fighting. All Chuck Liddell wanted to do as a champ was to be in the octagon, point at the opponent, he would train and then fight, Randy Couture has been fighting people who have been a bad style match up for him his whole career.
How many fighters have you heard respond when Joe Rogan asks them who they want to fight next say “I don’t care, I’m a fighter and I will fight anyone the UFC puts me against”.
“Reports indicate, for example, that he does not want to fight former UFC heavyweight champion, Tim Sylvia, because it is a bad style match up.”
Yeah it is, for Sylvia I would of thought. So he [Fedor] only chooses to fight fighters who he thinks his style gives him a natural advantage over, that is not a champion. I will have to see this report to believe it, but if i is true then Fedor will never join the UFC because no champion can pick and choose his opponents.
CONSPIRACY THEORY
Do you think all of this talking about Fedor during UFC 75 and even this UFCmania article for example (the part about him refusing matches) could be a plan orchestrated to put Fedor in a position where if he does not join the UFC his credibility would be harmed?
Personally I just don’t understand why he would think Tim Sylvia would be a bad match up for him. As I said in my previous post Randy didn’t match up well to Gonzaga when it came to style but he broke Gonzaga’s will and his nose (not neccessarily in that order) during the fight with an impressive win.
I’m not sure if it was on this site but I even remember Pride announcing that they offered a match between Fedor and Sylvia and Sylvia apparently turned it down.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ll0KJ_13NJU
So apparently Fedor would of fought Sylvia then but now Randy has beaten him and he is recovering from back surgery and Staph infection Fedor does not want to fight him.
All these allegations sound fishy to me .I’m not too sure what to believe any more.
Okay,
I see that all my fans want me to fight fedor…he is scared to come and fight me. Dana and I discussed just before the UFC 75 fight in London that if Fedor would sign, he would be guaranteed a title shot in his opening bout. I think he is scared to fight me since I destoryed Gonzaga. I broke his nose and could hear it crack when I threw him to the ground. I have a secret plan prepared for Fedor. Since he is a well rounded MMA fighter, I will employ a more balanced attack to beat him. Half round of stand-up followed up by half round of Greco Roman wrestling followed by some ground and pound. Let me know what my FANS think and I will consider ALL OPTIONS>>>This fight will be for the Fans who have supported me all those years…P.S. Nogueria will be fighting me only if Fedor backs out. Look for the fight in mid Feburary according to Dana…Randy Couture
sounds totally fishy to me also. Dana White is a douche bag and is doing this to pressure Fedor and also to make him look bad if he doesnt come to the us.
The ufc said that Wanderlei Silva didnt want to fight Lidell…but really Silva just said he didnt want to fight him in septembver/november cuz he wouldnt have enough time to train properly…that a big difference between not fighting in sept/nov and not fighting at all.
UFC = shady business practices
screw dana white
I’m with you to Holding Ropes,I don’t know how this Fedor signing going to end up.But if he does’nt fight in the UFC by 2008,then i say fuck Fedor and fuck Dana White.
There is no reason way Fedor should not be fighting in the UFC by now.
All the best fighters in the world are in the UFC.
I would’nt mind seeing Yushin Okami,and Josh Barnett back,but to keep getting my hopes up when i hear Fedor’s coming and then hear he’s not,I’ll just believe it when i see it.
It’s funny that people are saying that Pride heavyweights are overrated and that Gonzaga is better then Big Nog. HA! I like Gonzaga too but you can’t deny the fact that the only reason why he’s so popular is because he knocked out Crocop who is a Pride heavyweight just in case you didn’t know. Big Nog is literally better than Gonzaga in every way. Also about Fedor, I think its kind of lame when he refuses to fight certain people because of a poor matchup but you can’t compare him to Hughes and Liddell “who will fight anyone”. They cut weight and fight people who are their size or slightly smaller. I’d like to see Liddell not cut any weight and fight top heavyweights. He obviously wouldn’t want to.
With all this talk about bad style macth-ups,not only is Randy going whoop his ass,if Fedor signs;but don’t ever put Fedor in the octagon against the pitbull.
If AA grows his hair and beard back and fights the way he is known for, Fedor would not stand a chance.
I love MMA,I’m still waiting for these superbowl like macth-ups Dana promised us when Zuffa bought Pride.
Rampage and Henderson was one but where are the others.
[quote comment="145956"]Okay,
I see that all my fans want me to fight fedor…he is scared to come and fight me. Dana and I discussed just before the UFC 75 fight in London that if Fedor would sign, he would be guaranteed a title shot in his opening bout. I think he is scared to fight me since I destoryed Gonzaga. I broke his nose and could hear it crack when I threw him to the ground. I have a secret plan prepared for Fedor. Since he is a well rounded MMA fighter, I will employ a more balanced attack to beat him. Half round of stand-up followed up by half round of Greco Roman wrestling followed by some ground and pound. Let me know what my FANS think and I will consider ALL OPTIONS>>>This fight will be for the Fans who have supported me all those years…P.S. Nogueria will be fighting me only if Fedor backs out. Look for the fight in mid Feburary according to Dana…Randy Couture[/quote]
I do’nt know if this is the Natural himself,but i been telling everybody a long time ago that Fedor is scared to fight Randy Couture.
who cares about fedor or anyone else for that matter, lets talk about the fact that Matt Hammil got totally robbed!! who the hell let the ufc get away with this. What a shame…sorry Matt.
Well it looks like the only former Pride guys (excluding Page) that are gonna bring it are the Chute Box boys; Shogun and Wandy. Let’s hope so anyway.
Rob…
Hendo brought it…
Nog’s bringin it…
Chute will bring it…
Spider Silva’s brining it.. (his name got big in his fights in Pride and he moonwalked in the Pride ring… = Pride Fighter… just ask him)
What the hell is going on with CroCop? He has lost that icey stare, he has lost his intimidation factor. He needs to destroy his next opponent, and it needs to be in the states (England is not working for him).
That fight was very difficult to watch.
[quote comment="145963"]It’s funny that people are saying that Pride heavyweights are overrated and that Gonzaga is better then Big Nog. HA! I like Gonzaga too but you can’t deny the fact that the only reason why he’s so popular is because he knocked out Crocop who is a Pride heavyweight just in case you didn’t know. Big Nog is literally better than Gonzaga in every way. Also about Fedor, I think its kind of lame when he refuses to fight certain people because of a poor matchup but you can’t compare him to Hughes and Liddell “who will fight anyone”. They cut weight and fight people who are their size or slightly smaller. I’d like to see Liddell not cut any weight and fight top heavyweights. He obviously wouldn’t want to.[/quote]
I compared them only to show how I believe the attitude of a champion should be. Both held their respective belts for multiple matches against their divisions finest, not caring who they fought. Fedor is in a division where cutting weight is not an issue. I would of used Andrei Arlovski as an example but in many of his matches the number one contender was a huge under dog (Justin Eilers for example, how did he get a title shot). Anyway even with that being the case AA never turned down a match and he is a fellow HW like Fedor. I was comparing mentality rather than physical ability, Hughes and Lidell have picked a division to fight in and would fight anyone in their respective division when they were champs.
In the post below the one you quoted I explained using Randy as an example of someone who all his career has gone for people who on paper would be a bad match-up for him. So if the comparison of how Hughes and Liddell “will fight anyone” was not good enough for you, replace that with fellow HW Randy and AA.
Matt “The Law” Lindland is another example of “I’ll fight anyone” type of guy and he doesn’t even limit that to his division!
[quote comment="145835"][quote comment="145821"]On Rampage..for all the page Haters..I love to do this, I TOLD YOU SO!![/quote]
Yeh Im with you Philqny. I called the Rampage fight, I said that I thought Kongo and Hamil would pull off upsets. Kongo’s was official, Hamil’s wasnt (he got robbed). The only fight I lost was Sakara, and thats just cause I couldnt go with alexander cuz I knew to little about him.
Yeh it seemed bizarre how much they talked about Fedor. It seemed like they knew something about the Fedor situation that we didnt. Its still possible that Dana wants to introduce him to the American public either At Fight night Live or at UFC 76. If he isnt announced by then, I will just stop talking about him.[/quote]
..I’m doing the same damn thing.
has anyone thought that maybe, fedor was doing steroids while fighting in pridefc?? they never tested fighters {aside from 2 vegas cards} maybe he is waiting it out his system, if i was undefeated, i wouldn’t want to get busted. i hope he does fight in the ufc so he can prove what he’s got!!! and im not saying he i juiced up, i like fedor,, always have…. it’s just taking too long for him to get in..somethings fishy!!
um, actually, Fedor has been fighting…
[quote comment="146129"]has anyone thought that maybe, fedor was doing steroids while fighting in pridefc?? they never tested fighters {aside from 2 vegas cards} maybe he is waiting it out his system, if i was undefeated, i wouldn’t want to get busted. i hope he does fight in the ufc so he can prove what he’s got!!! and im not saying he i juiced up, i like fedor,, always have…. it’s just taking too long for him to get in..somethings fishy!![/quote]
Judging Fedors build I have a hard time believing he is on steroids.
[quote comment="145985"][quote comment="145956"]Okay,
I see that all my fans want me to fight fedor…he is scared to come and fight me. Dana and I discussed just before the UFC 75 fight in London that if Fedor would sign, he would be guaranteed a title shot in his opening bout. I think he is scared to fight me since I destoryed Gonzaga. I broke his nose and could hear it crack when I threw him to the ground. I have a secret plan prepared for Fedor. Since he is a well rounded MMA fighter, I will employ a more balanced attack to beat him. Half round of stand-up followed up by half round of Greco Roman wrestling followed by some ground and pound. Let me know what my FANS think and I will consider ALL OPTIONS>>>This fight will be for the Fans who have supported me all those years…P.S. Nogueria will be fighting me only if Fedor backs out. Look for the fight in mid Feburary according to Dana…Randy Couture[/quote]
I do’nt know if this is the Natural himself,but i been telling everybody a long time ago that Fedor is scared to fight Randy Couture.[/quote]
I really, really hope you didn’t consider that it might have actually been the real Couture.
[quote comment="145785"]Ragnar,
Big Nog is no Gonzaga. The dude has no footwork at all, his takedown defense is terrible, he’s got no power in his punches, and his BJJ is over-rated. The only top level guy he subbed is Cro-can for christ’s sake.
IMO, Gonzaga would wipe the floor with Big Nog and so will Couture.[/quote]
Ha- Noguira’s jujitsu is overated? That’s funny.
YOU People dont know what your talking about, fedor wouldnt pick his fights !!!
Fedor would destroy randy
he will make randy feel stupid
and dont even compare him to cro cop, cro cop has no ground game at all fedor would of made kongo tap in the first 3 min
The UFC is talking about Emelianenko to try to keep fan interest up. He’s an outstanding fighter and possibly #1 in the world but the fans should stop giving a crap until he actually signs. The only ones who should be talked about are men in the cage actually fighting.
LOL, who the hell was making allegations that Fedor is using steroids and doesn’t want to fight in UFC because he will pop hot? Look at Fedor, he has the body type of MMA fan who drinks a bit too much, not an MMA fighter. His power comes from conditioning NOT roids.
Two years ago UFC had a dismal heavy weight class, all the worlds top talent was in Pride FC and Fedor beat em all except for the baby face assassin who would probably have been his next fight if zuffa didn’t rat f*ck Pride. Pride had no top talent!?! Have you not been watching UFC lately? All the big fights have been centered around dudes from pride! Sean Sherk, Anderson Silva, and Rampage who are now CHAMPS came from Pride. The only Pride purchase that UFC could have done without is Heath Herring, the only reason this guy is a known fighter is because he’s been BEATEN by a who’s who of MMA.
Fedor will sign for UFC. In an interview I’ve read from him he states that the next guy he would like to fight is Couture, he says it would be an honor to fight some one of his calibor. So HE IS NOT DUCKING RANDY, he wants to fight him. And ducking Tim Sylvia? LOL, that guy couldn’t stand up to half the guys that Fedor has already dismantled. We just gotta wait it out, boys; Fedor will sign, and he will sign soon if he actually can. This deal is most likely being held up by Dana White or that stupid f*ck of a manager Fedor has; Finklestein.
[quote post="3283"]Judging Fedors build I have a hard time believing he is on steroids.[/quote]
I HOPE NOT. but like i said it’s taking to long for him to sign..it cant be money..he has been told he will have an instant title shot?..what else does he want???the second zuffa bought pridefc everyone thought 100% fedor would be the first to debut in ufc.. what the hell kind of champ holds off this long???oh well’ like i said..i like fedor always have but when he takes this long i gotta think..What is going on..steroids???cant adapt to cage???not enough money??? no reason should hold him back, i mean this is the ufc..the big show.and if he is the man to beat,get your ass in their and show em what your made of!!
[quote comment="146380"]The UFC is talking about Emelianenko to try to keep fan interest up. He’s an outstanding fighter and possibly #1 in the world but the fans should stop giving a crap until he actually signs. The only ones who should be talked about are men in the cage actually fighting.[/quote]
I agree 100%
I’m a big fedor fan, but if he doen’t sign soon, I’ll stop caring too. There is way too much talent in the ufc now to worry so much about fedor signing.
[quote comment="146378"]YOU People dont know what your talking about, fedor wouldnt pick his fights !!!
Fedor would destroy randy
he will make randy feel stupid
and dont even compare him to cro cop, cro cop has no ground game at all fedor would of made kongo tap in the first 3 min[/quote]
Then why doesn’t he sign! And why is his management insisting that he get 2 fights before fighting Randy, and why has his management publicly said that Fedor does not want to fight Timmy because its a bad style matchup. From what your saying, bad style match up shouldn’t matter to the Great Fedor.
I’ll say it again, when your the #1 heavyweight you need to fight the best fighters every fight. I don’t want Fedor fighting Eddie Sanchez or Heath Herring (again). Fedor has got to man up and fight the champ now! Just like Henderson did! Heavyweight Unification!
[quote post="3283"]I’ll say it again, when your the #1 heavyweight you need to fight the best fighters every fight. I don’t want Fedor fighting Eddie Sanchez or Heath Herring (again). Fedor has got to man up and fight the champ now! Just like Henderson did! Heavyweight Unification! [/quote]
Yeah dude! I agree, i like Fedor and all but it’s takin way too long for him to sign, makes me think shit..can’t adapt to cage?? not enough cash??? or, and i hope not, but maybe steriod’s, or banned substances??? Who knows?? all i know is when Zuffa bought Pride FC i thought Fedor would be the first one in the octagon. boy was i wrong…..
Fedor is becoming just plain ridiculous. He calls himself the Baddest Man on the Planet, and he is scared to fight Tim Sylvia. OMG, what a joke. Randy Couture was 44 years old and came out of retirement after getting KO’d twice in a row in the first round by LHW Chuck Liddell, to fight the HW champ, Tim Sylvia. Now, the supposed, best fighter in the world, is afraid to fight Tim Sylvia?? Wow, that is news.
Fedor, if you are the best HW around, why are you not in the UFC? Why are you afraid to fight Tim Sylvia? Why do you demand two fights against nobodies before fighting Randy Couture? You know why, its because you are SCARED!!! The only time you will ever except a fight with Randy is when Randy is 55 years old. You seen what happened to Cro Cop – who you coulnd’t knock out. A no-name B-level fighter in the UFC KO’d Cro Cop in the first round. Then in CroCop’s next fight, he got owned by a C-level fighter who was absolutely dominated by Carmelo Marrero. Fedor, you better sign with the IFL, because you have NO chance at beating anyone in the TOP 5 of the UFC. ESPECIALLY if you are scared of fighting someone barely ranked in the top 10 anymore.
Fedor, you are a scared little pussy.
I really can’t believe that some people here are saying that Gabe Gonzaga is a better fighter than Big Nog. I am almost speachless on that. Gonzaga is a NOBODY with 1 big win in his career. Meanwhile, Big Nog has fought every top HW there is (except Randy, but that will be soon enough) and has NEVER been KO’d. He is one of the best BJJ fighters you will ever see. I really hope to see Gabe vs Big Nog just for the sake of the few people that were saying what they did…..
[quote post="3283"]who cares about fedor or anyone else for that matter, lets talk about the fact that Matt Hammil got totally robbed!! who the hell let the ufc get away with this. What a shame…sorry Matt.[/quote]
That’s what the thread with the image of the three blind mice, and the one about Dana White’s response to the Bisping/Hamill fight is for. This thread is about Fedor. Learn how to use a forum…
Can anyone image Randy saying that he won’t fight someone because he doesn’t think his style matches up well against his? NOPE, NEVER. Randy is a TRUE champion. He WELCOMES great challenges, he doesn’t hide from them.
Once Goldy said in the 4th round something along the lines of:
“Rampage and Henderson are fighting in the first of the title unification bouts. Next, we’ll have Fedor in here fighting the man sitting next to me. But Randy already knows that”
Right then and there, I was like, “Goldy, you moron, you just ruined the big announcement they’re going to make after this fight”. Especially since it was supposed to be on until 12:30 and ended like a half hour early. I really thought that after Rampage was crowned the LHW unified champ, they would have brought Fedor and Randy in and said that the HW belt will be unified at UFC ##, in the 2nd title unification bout. Then the last half hour would have been a couple of Fedor’s best fights in PRIDE, so the general American public can see some of his fights.
I was very dissapointed.
[quote comment="146486"][quote comment="146378"]YOU People dont know what your talking about, fedor wouldnt pick his fights !!!
Fedor would destroy randy
he will make randy feel stupid
and dont even compare him to cro cop, cro cop has no ground game at all fedor would of made kongo tap in the first 3 min[/quote]
Then why doesn’t he sign! And why is his management insisting that he get 2 fights before fighting Randy, and why has his management publicly said that Fedor does not want to fight Timmy because its a bad style matchup. From what your saying, bad style match up shouldn’t matter to the Great Fedor.
I’ll say it again, when your the #1 heavyweight you need to fight the best fighters every fight. I don’t want Fedor fighting Eddie Sanchez or Heath Herring (again). Fedor has got to man up and fight the champ now! Just like Henderson did! Heavyweight Unification![/quote]
listen , whatever source you people find your info from is tryin to promote tim with his fight with vera!
i suggest you people stop hating and wait it out cause he is coming to the ufc and his next fight will be randy!
and listen he hasnt losses so stop saying he will lose to randy , cause when this figtht does happen i hope you people really dont think that randy will win because there going to be alot of disappointed couture fans.
and what about randy he has fought a bunch of lhw’s and got knocked out by chuck twice and beat two heavywieghts by puttin them in the clinch and slowing them down, but hahah fedor is so much faster haha. i dont know if this fight will go in to the second round maybe early second.
and hopefully fedor beats him so bad that randy retires , but fedor is such a nice classy guy that he will make him tap so he wouldnt bust up his face.
remember the fedor vs big nog i just cant see randy taking punches like that in the face from fedor! nog is a beast thats why
My personal opinion (if anyone cares..) Fedor’s legacy is ALREADY tainted. The sport will pass him by if he doesnt sign with the UFC in the next few weeks. ALL of the top talent is in the UFC, the UFC is the MMA limelight right now, and will be for a while. If he fights anyone else outside of top UFC talent… its not going to matter.
Also IMO, the BIG reason Fedor will get an immediate title shot is so…..Randy has more of a shot, or anyone else for that fact. The trend of fighters walking into the Octagon from a ring and not being successful hasnt stopped… that in mind, Id consider Randy maybe even winning.
[quote comment="146587"]My personal opinion (if anyone cares..) Fedor’s legacy is ALREADY tainted. The sport will pass him by if he doesnt sign with the UFC in the next few weeks. ALL of the top talent is in the UFC, the UFC is the MMA limelight right now, and will be for a while. If he fights anyone else outside of top UFC talent… its not going to matter.
Also IMO, the BIG reason Fedor will get an immediate title shot is so…..Randy has more of a shot, or anyone else for that fact. The trend of fighters walking into the Octagon from a ring and not being successful hasnt stopped… that in mind, Id consider Randy maybe even winning.[/quote]
i think fedor would be better in a cage. and you people just dont understand anything randy has fedor already has a counter move and a take down and plus randy is 44 and fedor is so fast !!
i say good luck to randy cause i respect him alot, cause he really is a great fighterand very smart fighter with a game plan for everyone but i just cant see him winning lol linland and coleman got submitted quick and they fight like randy.
fedor is the best fighter in the world cause not because he knows all the syles in mma but he is great at all the styles in mma.
it funny how u people read some lamp article and booom randy is the best in the world and fedor will lose to top 5 hw’s in ufc ! hahahahhahah keep dreaming fedor is the most skilled fighter i have ever seen
Things are always more complicated than they appear. Fedor doesn’t have an outlet to appeal to fans of MMA, Dana White does. Both sides need eachother, and yet both sides have large egos. Ultimately the money will win, so Fedor will probably end up succombing to the UFC unless he just doesn’t feel the need to fight anymore…
GG has some big blows, but his style seems fairly crude compared to the cerebral likes of Nog, as Couture exploited. I mean, what was Gonzaga’s game plan against Randy?
Regarding Crocop, if he really did break a rib against Kongo, it makes a pretty big difference on how you fight. Look at Jackson’s first fight against Rua. I actually felt sorry for the guy. I can’t wait for a rematch. Jackson is a way better fighter now.
With everyone wanting Fedor in the UFC and him being a bitch about it, am I the only one that would love to see him get KTFO by someone like Dan Christison or Sean Gannon. I can’t believe he won’t take a match against Sylvia. Like ViolentMike said, you wouldn’t see Randy not accept such a match. If Fedor fought Sylvia he’s probably get paid Tito money like $250,000-$300,000. Shit. I have no fighting experience at all and I’d even man up at fight (get KO’D by) Sylvia for $20,000, probably less, lol.
[quote comment="146598"]i think fedor would be better in a cage. and you people just dont understand anything randy has fedor already has a counter move and a take down and plus randy is 44 and fedor is so fast !!
i say good luck to randy cause i respect him alot, cause he really is a great fighterand very smart fighter with a game plan for everyone but i just cant see him winning lol linland and coleman got submitted quick and they fight like randy.
fedor is the best fighter in the world cause not because he knows all the syles in mma but he is great at all the styles in mma.
it funny how u people read some lamp article and booom randy is the best in the world and fedor will lose to top 5 hw’s in ufc ! hahahahhahah keep dreaming fedor is the most skilled fighter i have ever seen[/quote]Rofl… ‘you people’
Fedor IS the best heavyweight in the world… fighter? Eh… maybe. Come and preach for your boy all you want, but no ammount of nuthugging is gonna get passed the issue at hand. Its put up or shut up on this site, Fedor hasnt put anything up other then beating someone that fights 65lbs lighter then he does.
lets stop hating on fedor, nobody should hate on fedor !!!
And randy’s next fight is fedor in feb so there is plenty of time to sign him .
if he loses to randy than you people can hate but stop hating on the guy now ! there’s nothing to say about him except talk about a false source who said he is dodging timmy “the blob” sylvia .
come on !!! do u really belive that!! only straight up Ufc redneck fans do.
[quote comment="146621"][quote comment="146598"]i think fedor would be better in a cage. and you people just dont understand anything randy has fedor already has a counter move and a take down and plus randy is 44 and fedor is so fast !!
i say good luck to randy cause i respect him alot, cause he really is a great fighterand very smart fighter with a game plan for everyone but i just cant see him winning lol linland and coleman got submitted quick and they fight like randy.
fedor is the best fighter in the world cause not because he knows all the syles in mma but he is great at all the styles in mma.
it funny how u people read some lamp article and booom randy is the best in the world and fedor will lose to top 5 hw’s in ufc ! hahahahhahah keep dreaming fedor is the most skilled fighter i have ever seen[/quote]Rofl… ‘you people’
Fedor IS the best heavyweight in the world… fighter? Eh… maybe. Come and preach for your boy all you want, but no ammount of nuthugging is gonna get passed the issue at hand. Its put up or shut up on this site, Fedor hasnt put anything up other then beating someone that fights 65lbs lighter then he does.[/quote]
lol first of all linland was 45 pounds lighter and thats besides point. When pride got sold fedor was and still is the best hw in the world and he joined bodog because he wanted to fight an MMA event In his HOme City !! why do u have to bash him because he fought the best figther in bodog! who else is in bodog ? and if the ufc wanted him to figth so bad how about they hold an event in russia !!!
listen people he is the greatest mma fighter ever i think he has a choice to figth where he wants and at that time he wanted to figth in front of his people and president putin.
he is like a hige name in russia so why not hold an event there for thier hero !!
so stop hating on fedor vs linland because fedor is coming to the ufc and he will destroy randy.
you people dont give the guy credit lol and what the rush he is fighting randy next after randy heals
Im starting to think that PRide Heavy’s were a bit overated. I still want Fedor over here. I think he will still dominate over here and do well, but RC will humble him
Fedor beat the best fighters that the PRIDE HW division had to offer. Currently about 80% of those fighters are now in the UFC and are losing to “second-tier” UFC fighters.
I love that picture of him with the ice cream. I can’t wait to see him bouncing around in the Octagon.
WOWWWWW you people just dont get it lol
cro cop he clearly isnt fighting like him and thats def the not becuase the ufc fighters are stronger i just feel like he took the money and serisouly not motivated at all to fight
nog beat herring , herring if wasnt such a pussy when he gets hit could beat sylvia ,kongo,gonzaga, and vera
herring is a good fighter
nog will make randy look stupid ,and i see again thats the only guy in fedors way! it will be fedor vs nog 3 in the ufc after fedor makes randy look like a stupid boy
mark hunt if he fought in the ufc now he would beat alot of people
wow i even think fugita would rip gonzaga up
gary goodridge would whoop some people in the ufc now
i’m predicting randy’s next fight he will ose the belt and he will retire for good if he gets a major beating
[quote post="3283"]If AA grows his hair and beard back and fights the way he is known for, Fedor would not stand a chance. [/quote]
Thats exactly what I’ve been saying! He’s like Samson!
i love AA my second fav hw but AA will get owned.
but i hope AA fights nog and wins but i dont know about that either .
I AM NOT SCARED! I will kill. I am a universal soldier. I am a cyborg ready to terminate. I am more powerful than the Terminator in Terminator 3. I am the winner of Aliens vs. Predator. I am the leader of all Transformers.
[quote comment="146656"]lets stop hating on fedor, nobody should hate on fedor !!!
And randy’s next fight is fedor in feb so there is plenty of time to sign him .
if he loses to randy than you people can hate but stop hating on the guy now ! there’s nothing to say about him except talk about a false source who said he is dodging timmy “the blob” sylvia .
come on !!! do u really belive that!! only straight up Ufc redneck fans do.[/quote]
Im also notbuying the Tim Sylvia crap.
[quote comment="146700"][quote post="3283"]If AA grows his hair and beard back and fights the way he is known for, Fedor would not stand a chance. [/quote]
Thats exactly what I’ve been saying! He’s like Samson![/quote]
here here !
[quote comment="145735"]Fedor is overrated. He better not come to the UFC because Couture and GG will run through him. All those Pride HWs aren’t tough without the dope.[/quote]
Look I have to say is this. The current light heavy weight champ (rampage) is a former Pride fighter. The middle weight champ (spider silva) is a former pride fighter. The future heavy weight champ will be a Pride fighter. So who said that the ufc fighters were better. Fedor has not been beaten in over five years. He will not lose! Randy wants to fight now cuz if he loses he can retire again. Fedor is still young. He is not afraid of anyone..he just wants to make the most sound business decision.
[quote comment="145745"]The PRIDE Heavyweight division was at a really low level in my opinion. I think Fedor, Cro Cop and Nogueira were really overrated..
they used to fight guys like heath herring who is one of the weakest fighter ever..
In the UFC they are gonna have some serious trouble, we have seen it with Cro Cop, we will see it soon with Big Nog..[/quote]
I THINK I ALREADY SAW IT WITH BIG NOG, IF YOU REMEMBER THE WEAK ASS ( HEATH HERRING ) WAS OWNING HIM IN NOGS UFC DEBUT, HE HAD HIM BEAT AND JUST LET HIM UP–NOT REALLY IMPRESSED WITH CRO-COP OR NOG IN THE UFC. I THOUGH THEY WERE UNSTOPPABLE WHEN THEY WERE IN PRIDE,,,,,,,,,BUT NOW WE SEE
[quote comment="145735"]Fedor is overrated. He better not come to the UFC because Couture and GG will run through him. All those Pride HWs aren’t tough without the dope.[/quote]
fedor is the greatest and will proove so when he comes and takes the title from couture! does Fedor really look like he roids it? I dont think so nor do any other pride heavyweights!
[quote comment="146751"][quote comment="145735"]Fedor is overrated. He better not come to the UFC because Couture and GG will run through him. All those Pride HWs aren’t tough without the dope.[/quote]
Look I have to say is this. The current light heavy weight champ (rampage) is a former Pride fighter. The middle weight champ (spider silva) is a former pride fighter. The future heavy weight champ will be a Pride fighter. So who said that the ufc fighters were better. Fedor has not been beaten in over five years. He will not lose! Randy wants to fight now cuz if he loses he can retire again. Fedor is still young. He is not afraid of anyone..he just wants to make the most sound business decision.[/quote]
I absolutlely agree with that statement the other superstars from pride dominated both rich and chuck so i think anyone who thinks pride fighters are a joke just wait till fedor proves all you haters wrong when he beats couture in a grueling 25 min war. Also Dan Henderson is from pride and he could pumble chuck as well just more proof to all the pride fighters haters!
I dont know what everyone seen but to get a decsion like that jackson had to do more than that.jackson did not take out henderson jackson got taken down just as mutch as henderson and henderson was the clear agreser.two pride fighters hold ufc belts not zero like alot of you think I would like to see couture try to beat henderson or couture because jackson clearly dident beat henderson that match proved nothing
[quote comment="146378"]YOU People dont know what your talking about, fedor wouldnt pick his fights !!!
Fedor would destroy randy
he will make randy feel stupid
and dont even compare him to cro cop, cro cop has no ground game at all fedor would of made kongo tap in the first 3 min[/quote]
Agreed Fedor will kill Randy and Tim both in the same night.WAR FEDOR!!!
[quote post="3283"]Nog is a smarter, more experienced version of Gonzaga, and with a lot more heart. Lets face it, Gonzaga’s style matched up very bad for Couture, but Couture proved that Gonzaga simply didn’t have the experience to be a threat. He broke his will, Gonzaga gave up.[/quote]
I agree with this, except you forgot to mention that Nog doesn’t have those leathal kicks that come out of nowhere.
[quote post="3283"]YOU People dont know what your talking about, fedor wouldnt pick his fights !!!
Fedor would destroy randy
he will make randy feel stupid
and dont even compare him to cro cop, cro cop has no ground game at all fedor would of made kongo tap in the first 3 min [/quote]
The thing you are missing is that Fedor is only a decision win better than CC and Nog. Why can’t some Fedor fans realize this FACT? Monson finished Fujita just as fast as Fedor did. Sobral and Arona went the distance with Fedor also and you think Fedor is such a standout that he will destroy Randy, GOOD LUCK! The thing about Fedor that alot of people don’t realize is that his toughest 5 or 6 fights, he hasn’t even fought yet. The only ones that are going to feel stupid are the ones who say, Fedor will destroy all the UFC HWs. Does Cro Cop will destroy everyone in the UFC, ring a bell?
[quote post="3283"]Two years ago UFC had a dismal heavy weight class, all the worlds top talent was in Pride FC and Fedor beat em all except for the baby face assassin who would probably have been his next fight if zuffa didn’t rat f*ck Pride. Pride had no top talent!?! Have you not been watching UFC lately? All the big fights have been centered around dudes from pride! Sean Sherk, Anderson Silva, and Rampage who are now CHAMPS came from Pride. The only Pride purchase that UFC could have done without is Heath Herring, the only reason this guy is a known fighter is because he’s been BEATEN by a who’s who of MMA.[/quote]
I have been watch UFC lately and out of that dismal HW div. I’ve seen AA, Monson ,GG, O’Brian and Kongo beat a good portion of “the worlds top talent” as you put it. Two of the best of that dismal div. are Vera and Sylvia and they pose a big threat to ANY HW. You see , if all the top HW talent was in Pride ,shouldn’t they be winning against the dismal HW division. The truth is, AA, Vera ,GG and Sylvia never were second rate to Pride HWs and in fact we are starting to see it was quite the opposite. Sherk was in the UFC before his 3 fights in Pride. Silva and Rampage are 2 of MANY big fights. Funny how you mention these two, when you are talking about how much better the Pride HWs are. Why not give examples of HWs to show your point? Oh ya, there aren’t any.
I don’t know where this is all coming from but from what I have read, maniac turned down a fight against fedor.
[quote post="3283"]I really can’t believe that some people here are saying that Gabe Gonzaga is a better fighter than Big Nog. I am almost speachless on that. Gonzaga is a NOBODY with 1 big win in his career. Meanwhile, Big Nog has fought every top HW there is (except Randy, but that will be soon enough) and has NEVER been KO’d. He is one of the best BJJ fighters you will ever see. I really hope to see Gabe vs Big Nog just for the sake of the few people that were saying what they did….. [/quote]
To say GG needs more experiance to beat Nog is like saying GG and Kongo need more experiance to beat the veteran, CC. Nog will have a hell of a time subbing GG, but GG will have an easier time kicking Nog in the head like HH did, only difference is GG will finish him when he has him hurt. IMHO the only 2 guys that can beat GG is Randy and Vera. Even those fights could go back and forth if they fought more than once, because they are all so close in talent.
[quote post="3283"]WOWWWWW you people just dont get it lol
cro cop he clearly isnt fighting like him and thats def the not becuase the ufc fighters are stronger i just feel like he took the money and serisouly not motivated at all to fight
nog beat herring , herring if wasnt such a pussy when he gets hit could beat sylvia ,kongo,gonzaga, and vera
herring is a good fighter
nog will make randy look stupid ,and i see again thats the only guy in fedors way! it will be fedor vs nog 3 in the ufc after fedor makes randy look like a stupid boy
mark hunt if he fought in the ufc now he would beat alot of people
wow i even think fugita would rip gonzaga up
gary goodridge would whoop some people in the ufc now
i’m predicting randy’s next fight he will ose the belt and he will retire for good if he gets a major beating [/quote]
That’s alot of if’s. Herring couldn’t beat his meat in the UFC let alone beat the guys you mentioned, Fugita couldn’t beat Monson ,how is he going to rip up GG.
About Fedor not wanting to fight Sylvia, i don’t see what the problem is since he defeated Semmy Shilt, whose 6′11 as opposed to the 6′8 Sylvia. Ok, Sylvia’s striking might be a bit better, but Semmy Shilt is no pushover.
[quote post="3283"]I AM NOT SCARED! I will kill. I am a universal soldier. I am a cyborg ready to terminate. I am more powerful than the Terminator in Terminator 3. I am the winner of Aliens vs. Predator. I am the leader of all Transformers. [/quote]
Yes, this is what some fans think of Fedor, but the truth is , that superhero descripsion of him belongs right up there with all the FICTIONAL characters you mentioned.
[quote post="3283"]About Fedor not wanting to fight Sylvia, i don’t see what the problem is since he defeated Semmy Shilt, whose 6″²11 as opposed to the 6″²8 Sylvia. Ok, Sylvia’s striking might be a bit better, but Semmy Shilt is no pushover.[/quote]
Fedor knows Tims striking is ALOT better than SS and he won by a decision agaist SS. Tim also fights at about 280 lbs compared to a stretched out 256 lbs of SS. Tim lost 3 times compared to SS 14 times. Yes, Tim’s competition was just as good. I think Tim is a bigger threat then SS.
Well, we’re the fans, in which we have nothing to do with $$$ nogotiations. Until there’s actual credible sources to set said things in stone, I’m taking it all with a grain of salt.
Not to mention the language barrier, how Dana called the management team of Fedor’s ‘crazy’ – most likely due to outrageous demands (in Dana’s mind) etc etc and possibly many other factors. Fedor is human.
Money talks and I have a feeling that money IS the driving force of Fedor and his management team, more so than their pride for fighting.
Fedor always seems so humble in interviews, towards his opponents etc etc no pride seems to be exerted. I believe it’s just a business for him.
I can’t boast nor look down on Fedor for not joining UFC at the moment. Many things go on behind the scenes especially with business contracts.
[quote comment="146967"]I dont know what everyone seen but to get a decsion like that jackson had to do more than that.jackson did not take out henderson jackson got taken down just as mutch as henderson and henderson was the clear agreser.two pride fighters hold ufc belts not zero like alot of you think I would like to see couture try to beat henderson or couture because jackson clearly
dident beat henderson that match proved nothing[/quote]
i agree, i believe jackson won the fight but i could have seen the fight as a draw. i thought henderson won the 1st and last round for sure and 2nd could have went either way, it sure was not a dominate win. it was in my opinion a good fight i would love to see them fight again
Another thing is that Fedor is very big in the russian Sambo world. In that I actually do think he does take pride. He is not an exclusive MMA fighter and I think that’s where the problem lies when dealing with the UFC.
I dont buy that Fedor is afraid of Tim or anyone for that matter! I would understand if Fedor wanted some experience in the Octagon b4 facing Randy. I am not saying this is the case but I would understand it. After watching Cro Cop getting KTFO, and Nog nearly loosing to Herring it does make us question the talent of the Pride I guess at the HW division. Rampage faired well in the Octagon, along with Silva. And I am sure their will be more Pride fighters that will come in and be title holders/contenders. If anything at all is intimidating Fedor I suspect it would be elbow’s, and Octagon. Not Randy, Tim, AA or anyother fighter!
As a fan to the UFC I dont just want Fedor, I want Hunt, Barnet, Coleman, and many more fighters!
I agree with UFC_fan, about the elbows. Before UFC 75, Cro cop said that for the Gonzaga fight he didn’t train in an octagon or with elbows, and said that he felt dizzy when he got back up in the fight with Gonzaga. This probably led to him not seeing the kick fast enough to dodge it.I think though, that fedor would have seen cro cop get beat in the UFC and probably would train in an octagon and with elbows if he were to join the UFC. Elbows or not, i think that Fedor’s ground game is very good and just might find a way to get out of dangerous positions if he were on the floor.
[quote comment="146683"][quote comment="146621"][quote comment="146598"]i think fedor would be better in a cage. and you people just dont understand anything randy has fedor already has a counter move and a take down and plus randy is 44 and fedor is so fast !!
i say good luck to randy cause i respect him alot, cause he really is a great fighterand very smart fighter with a game plan for everyone but i just cant see him winning lol linland and coleman got submitted quick and they fight like randy.
fedor is the best fighter in the world cause not because he knows all the syles in mma but he is great at all the styles in mma.
it funny how u people read some lamp article and booom randy is the best in the world and fedor will lose to top 5 hw’s in ufc ! hahahahhahah keep dreaming fedor is the most skilled fighter i have ever seen[/quote]Rofl… ‘you people’
Fedor IS the best heavyweight in the world… fighter? Eh… maybe. Come and preach for your boy all you want, but no ammount of nuthugging is gonna get passed the issue at hand. Its put up or shut up on this site, Fedor hasnt put anything up other then beating someone that fights 65lbs lighter then he does.[/quote]
lol first of all linland was 45 pounds lighter and thats besides point. When pride got sold fedor was and still is the best hw in the world and he joined bodog because he wanted to fight an MMA event In his HOme City !! why do u have to bash him because he fought the best figther in bodog! who else is in bodog ? and if the ufc wanted him to figth so bad how about they hold an event in russia !!!
listen people he is the greatest mma fighter ever i think he has a choice to figth where he wants and at that time he wanted to figth in front of his people and president putin.
he is like a hige name in russia so why not hold an event there for thier hero !!
so stop hating on fedor vs linland because fedor is coming to the ufc and he will destroy randy.
you people dont give the guy credit lol and what the rush he is fighting randy next after randy heals[/quote]
Just for the record I believe Linland weighed in at 218 and Fedor at 233 thats only 15 pounds.
Fedor has beaten nothing but the top 10 fighters all of his career at the time when he fought them, of course a number of his past competitors are crap now, no s*&%! He’s the most respectful fighter there is. He beats ass, and still continues to, with class. Never takes the role of the bad ass because he doesn’t give in to such hype. Much like the hype that is UFC. He thinks and quotes that every fight is a challenge for him, even though they’re cleary not when you watch ‘em. In my opinion, he has too much class to go to the UFC, but I know he wants to sign for to important reasons: he wants to fight top fighters, and, of course, money is important to anyone who is making a career for themselves. And I want to see him fight the top fighters from UFC including Randy. A possible reason why he doesn’t want to sign: the fact it’s a no clause contract. Can you honestly tell me he’s scared??? Bullsh*%! Because he doesn’t sign, all of the sudden he’s scared… anybody who agrees doesn’t have a clue. Truth is nobody can honestly know why he hasn’t signed, but anyone who has an once of logic knows it’s not because he’s ’scared’. I could understand the fact that since he is a top contender, he shouldn’t get easy fights. I also could understand that he wants to get used to the cage, it’s a completely different environment. Regardless, he’s not going to get an ‘easy’ fight. Just like before, he’s going to get top competitors. There’s no way he’s not. It makes no since for Dana to promote a fighter of his stature in that manner. Bottom line, any fighter, at any given time, can lose no matter how great you are. Nobody has had 20 top contender wins and remains undefeated.
But, he’s damn close to it. Give him credit based on actual events.
Sorry for the long ass message… there is just sooo much too say.
I heard Dana White say that if Fedor signs, he’ll get an instant title shot against Randy.
Well if Fedor signs now, he’ll have to wait till after January 2008 to fight Randy anyways since Couture has obtained a broken arm from GG kick apparently.
I’ll wait patiently.
However I wonder if Lesnar is in the brink of signing a contract; heard the anouncer at the Jackson/henderson fight mention him.
Wonder if he’d do good. Though he’s in the weight area closest to Tim Sylvia (super heavyweight) he sure moves like a 205lbs fighter or lighter.
It’s funny to hear people saying: Pride HW division is weak… The reason why Randy decided to go to HW, is because he saw the crappy state of HW UFC division and he grabbed the opportunity and he was right! I think, getting fighters from Pride is one of the best things that happened to UFC in last several years.
Sorry Fedor haters, mark my words, he is the real deal and we will soon see his talents here just as he displayed in Japan and has been displaying in the Ukrain, Russia, etc.
As for Nog, he tool will prove to be at the top of the heap.
For those of you who think Fedor is “slipping”. Just check every single fighter ranking board out there. There is a reason everyone has him at number one, it is not a coincidence. These are people who track these fighters all day every day for a living, not being armchair critics many of whom don’t even train themselves. Randy was even at #4 recently. Don’t get me wrong, I love him, but to say he is number one is not right. That is why Josh Barnett called Dana White out on it recently. Josh is another one that is right at the top.
As for Rampage, it was a pleasure seeing him knock Chuck (in my opinion THE most overrated fighter in MMA today) on his ass. The Rampage/Hendo fight was a nice chess match. I like them both and I called Rampage in that one.
Fedor is coming.
But unlike other fighters, he has the bargaining power on his side. When the UFC offers the right money AND a non-exclusibe contract, he will be there.
In the meantime, enjoy watching the current crop of heavyweights for the last time on the main card. (minus Randy)
It’s interesting people making all these accusations of Fedor refusing to fight certain people, but then not providing links as evidence.
fedor should go to hdnet where he’ll be the dirk of mma
I love fedor i think he is a great fighter ,but he doesn’t want to sign,because of sambo. Come on fedor fight the best!.I think that is the only way to if, he really is the best.I want to see if fedor is hype or, really is the baddest man on the planet! Come fedor!
All right, I have read almost all the comment, obviously some people here simply do not have enough knowledge about situation. Let’s not argue who is #1 heavyweight in the world, let’s just look at the records. Fedor has not lost a single fight in his career while all others did. Please do not feed me a crap about his supposedly weak opponents. Randy has lost to Chuck twice, once to Belfort, Ricco Rodriguez, and Josh Barnett within last 5 and 1/2 years. I would agree that he is a rise with his great last 2 victories but it does not mean that he would destroy Fedor.
Fairy tale about Fedor not wanting to fight Sylvia is another myth. He fought Mark Hunt who is 275 lb versus Fedor’s 231 lb. He also fought Zuluzinho who is 390-406lbs, who is that good match? Do not try to say that Tim Sylvia is better than Mark Hunt cause real fans of mma will laugh at you.
Besides all that, one of the main reasons Fedor is not signing right now is because he does not want to be committed to UFC only. It is very important to him to fight in his homeland and do sambo tournaments whenever he needs to. It’s about his pride besides money.
Even in case he will never sign with UFC, the man has nothing to prove in this sport, he already did. Although, let’s hope we see him fighting soon regardless of outcomes
here is additional info regarding signing Fedor with UFC
http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/09/14/update-on-negotiations-between-fedor-ufc/
Show me the money!
LISTEn, im noticing a backlash against Fedor for some reason. to say that randy is the best heavyweight in the world is absurd. sure, hes the champ, cause he beat a big goofball, thats basically only a boxer (tim sylvia), all randy did was keep taking him down. as for gonzaga, the guy has what, 8 fights, lol. lets look at randys heavyweight career, how many times has he lost to heavyweights, numurous times. he was ko’d by lidell twice. and lets face it people, fedor hits a hell of alot harder than lidell does. how many times has fedor lost, ummm, noneee. randy is good solid mma fighter, but to compare him to a monster like fedor is not smart. fedor will destroy him in a stand up battle, and think about it, how many submissions does randy have, compare that to how many subs fedor has. either way, randy is in severe trouble. prides heavyweight devision was known to be far superior to ufc’s heavyweight devision. until they got, cro cop and nog, whom fedor has already beaten. he destroyed nog severely in their last fight. so please, don’t hold the fact that there is no contract yet for fedor with the ufc to start denegrating him. oh, and for him to not want to fight bob sapp, probably only cause hed kill sapp like nothing. lets get real. and be afraid to fight tim sylvia, fedor would kill sylvia, please.
Update on negotiations between Fedor & UFC
By Zach Arnold
M-1, the promotion operated by Vadim Finkelstein (Fedor’s backer), has announced some news regarding their contract negotiations (on behalf of Fedor) with UFC.
According to the M-1 office, Finkelstein and UFC negotiated terms of a contract that would allow the PRIDE Heavyweight champion to fight in the Octagon. M-1 claims that the negotiations were a success and that the parties agreed to what the terms of the UFC contract would be. However, M-1 claims that when UFC sent the contract to their office, the terms of the deal were “absolutely different’ than what had been negotiated and that management did not agree on what was stated in the contract. This is why, according to M-1, Fedor has not signed a contract with UFC.
sounds like UFCs fault, by providing different information that was already agreed on. Sneaky bastards. If i was a fighter I wouldn’t sign with someone trying to fuck me over.
Did any of you hear Fedor say that ??? WTF is the debating about ?? why the hell would he talk about Sylvia if he doesnt even have contract with UFC ?
Haters can’t see him.