Perhaps the third time will be the charm for former UFC light heavyweight champion, Chuck Liddell, if he can get another crack at current 205-pound titleholder, Quinton “Rampage” Jackson.
But not if Jackson has his way …
With two dominating wins over the “Iceman” at PRIDE: “Final Conflict” and UFC 71: “Liddell vs. Jackson,” Rampage says enough is enough, according to FightNetwork.com.
Here’s a snip from the champ:
“I don’t know if I want to fight Chuck again. I beat him twice and I’m pretty sure he’s going to try and fix his mistakes. He might try and take that number I got on him a third time. I might call it quits while I’m ahead. I don’t want to fight Chuck any more. I fought him twice.”
Rampage is set to battle Dan Henderson this Saturday, September 8, for the unified UFC and PRIDE FC 205-pound title at the O2 Arena in London, England.
Liddell, on the other hand, will headline UFC 76: “Knockout” on September 22 when he looks to get back to his winning ways against Keith Jardine.
UFC President Dana White has mentioned in previous reports that Liddell will need at least two wins before he get another crack at reclaiming his strap. In addition, Mauricio “Shogun” Rua is believed to be next in line for a championship opportunity if he gets passed Forrest Griffin in his Octagon debut later this month.
Having said all of that, Rampage and Liddell would have to meet at some point next year if both fighters continue to win. Not to mention UFC 71 was a huge financial and marketing success for the organization, which is a factor (money) that trumps virtually any personal desires — champion or not.
Note: This report also reveals that Jackson fractured his wrist three weeks before the rematch with Liddell in May.
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Rampage is right..he the guy twice very bad. It’s like Babalu wanting to fight Chuck a third time..or ken Shamrock wanting to fight Tito for a 4th time..Rampage got Chuck’s number.
I’d be even more surpirsed if it was Rampage’s right wrist that was fractured.
yeh right…he got lucky that last time - besides , its not his choice who he fights - when he gets a beat down by wandy again he will want to fight for a third time too - if he gets pumled like he did last (KO through the ropes) he wont even want to fight a third time. Rampage gettin a bit big headed now n hasnt even defended his title, what a joker
NEWS FLASH RAMPAGE!! You cant just come to the UFC, take Chucks belt which he defended several times and think you wont have to fight him again. Especially since the 2nd fight was 75% luck and we didnt really see who would have dominated who like we did the first fight. He knows Chuck is not gonna throw that body shot again and instead is gonna Knock him the fuck out. Whats funny is i guarantee he will be taking back that statement cause hes going to have to fight chuck to get the belt. Hopefully henderson beats rampage. then chuck kills jardine and beats silva to get the title shot. in the meantime rampage then will probably fight shogun and get killed again, then maybe silva and get beat again. and hen Chuck will fight henderson and knock his ass out, and then rampage will be begging to fight chuck a third time.
i dont believe this crap! Rampage has liddells number and will whoop his ass everytime… i think liddell better worry about fighting for the title until he gets by keith jardine and then wanderli silvia! Theres a new rampage and if wanderli and shogun think that its the same rampage as pride the are gonna have a rude awakening call!
[quote comment=”143293″]yeh right…he got lucky that last time - besides , its not his choice who he fights - when he gets a beat down by wandy again he will want to fight for a third time too - if he gets pumled like he did last (KO through the ropes) he wont even want to fight a third time. Rampage gettin a bit big headed now n hasnt even defended his title, what a joker[/quote]
Sounds like you’re doing a bit of hatin’. The fight you’re talking about was a barn burner & Rampage was absolutely dominating Wand up until that turning point where he got caught in the clinch which led to the several knees that put him to sleep.
If we’re gonna use a fighters losses as a reason to write them off then let’s talk about Chucks 1st loss to Page over in PRIDE and why didnt you write off Chuck the same way?
I think Rampage should be given a chance to avenge some of his big time losses, before Chuck gets a second crack at him. Provided Shogun and Wanderlei have impressive victories over their future opponents everything should fall into place nicely, especially if Wnaderlei’s second opponent turns out to be Chuck. That means Shogun would get a shot first and if he losses then Wanderlei would be the next logical choice.
Liddell got the chance to avenge all of his losses while he was champ, I think Rampage should get the same.
However this is only if its suits the UFC to do so, one mans desires should never take precedence over what is best for the company.
I think Rampage has got it the wrong way round. Personally I think as champ you get less freedom, you can’t reject matches (like Leben) you fight who you are told to.
[quote comment=”143293″]yeh right…he got lucky that last time - besides , its not his choice who he fights - when he gets a beat down by wandy again he will want to fight for a third time too - if he gets pumled like he did last (KO through the ropes) he wont even want to fight a third time. Rampage gettin a bit big headed now n hasnt even defended his title, what a joker[/quote]
..They asked his opinion..he beat the shit out of Chuck in pride till the point his corner had to throw in the towell..Dropped him with one punch in their rematch..that’s not luck..when Rampage lost to Wand 2X and to Shogun he lost due to the knee attacks..I’m sure Wand wouldn’t want to fight the same guy 3X not to say he wouldn’t if he had to. Rampage is not the same fighter when he lost to those guys..he is smarter..better stand up..and he has Juanito in his corner..and that is all I need to say. Chuck is still 37yr old..beer gut..mohawk crispy..not better..not worse..if he fought Rampage for a third time..I’ll tell you who would win now. Rampage.
He wont have to after Dan Henderson take s his belt from him. Rampage needs to stop thinking about Chuck because he has a huge fight on Saturday that could end his champ status…
Rampage is much smarter that he seems …
I don’t blame Rampage for not wanting to fight Chuck again. But if Chuck keeps winning and Rampage is still the champ, it’s gonna happen. As the champ you gotta fight the best, and if Chuck is the number 1 contender then so be it.
Also I think I should mention Keith Jardine’s loss to Houston Alexander. I think that it was the biggest loss in his career since it was against a newbie (to the UFC at least) and happened so quickly at a point where he had the light focussed on him, so how is he now the main event of a PPV after such a devastating loss?
This is the 1st time I have seen two guys who in their last matches were finished in less than 2 minutes of the first round, become the main event of a PPV in there very next fight!!!
Is there anyone that has an opinion on this?
I understand Rampages point of not wanting to fight the same guy over and over again, but if Chuck and Rampage keep winning there really isn’t a choice in the matter. Chuck will become a mandatory challenger and Rampage will have to fight him. I think this is all a moot point, because I cannot see Rampage making it though both Hendo and Shogun.
With luck Jardine will KO Beergut and this will be moot.
Been there, done that. More excited about other matchups than seeing Rampage beat Chuck down for a third time.
…and he shouldn’t have too. Keep a 3rd match for “rubber match” scenarios. Just ask Ken Shamrock.
I’m tired of this Rampage and Liddell stuff. It’s should be over and done with unless it’s pretty much mandatory (i.e. both dudes just keep on winning and a 3rd fight is inevitable). One thing is for sure though, definitely don’t be talking about it at this point in time. I’m with Rampage all the way on this one.
Keep the 3rd fight scenario for something true MMA fans would love to see..GSP vs. Hughes 3 for the title (if Hughes gets by Serra).
[quote comment=”143298″]NEWS FLASH RAMPAGE!! You cant just come to the UFC, take Chucks belt which he defended several times and think you wont have to fight him again. Especially since the 2nd fight was 75% luck and we didnt really see who would have dominated who like we did the first fight. He knows Chuck is not gonna throw that body shot again and instead is gonna Knock him the fuck out. Whats funny is i guarantee he will be taking back that statement cause hes going to have to fight chuck to get the belt. Hopefully henderson beats rampage. then chuck kills jardine and beats silva to get the title shot. in the meantime rampage then will probably fight shogun and get killed again, then maybe silva and get beat again. and hen Chuck will fight henderson and knock his ass out, and then rampage will be begging to fight chuck a third time.[/quote]
……and then Chuck will cure cancer too right?
[quote comment=”143298″]NEWS FLASH RAMPAGE!! You cant just come to the UFC, take Chucks belt which he defended several times and think you wont have to fight him again. Especially since the 2nd fight was 75% luck and we didnt really see who would have dominated who like we did the first fight. He knows Chuck is not gonna throw that body shot again and instead is gonna Knock him the fuck out. Whats funny is i guarantee he will be taking back that statement cause hes going to have to fight chuck to get the belt. Hopefully henderson beats rampage. then chuck kills jardine and beats silva to get the title shot. in the meantime rampage then will probably fight shogun and get killed again, then maybe silva and get beat again. and hen Chuck will fight henderson and knock his ass out, and then rampage will be begging to fight chuck a third time.[/quote]
alot of what if’s, buddy
In that case then Tito should get a 3rd shot at Chuck. The Jeremey Horn vs Chuck series is tied at 1 for 1 so they need a 3rd match to confirm who is the better fighter right? Oh & Marvin Eastman should get another crack at Rampage too then. I mean while we’re at it, let’s change the standard “Rubber Match” formula of best 2 outta 3 and just make it the best 3 outta 5 from now on……………then again, let’s not.
[quote comment=”143293″]yeh right…he got lucky that last time - besides , its not his choice who he fights - when he gets a beat down by wandy again he will want to fight for a third time too - if he gets pumled like he did last (KO through the ropes) he wont even want to fight a third time. Rampage gettin a bit big headed now n hasnt even defended his title, what a joker[/quote]
If he fights Silva again. It will be the third time….joker
Abd Silva would demolish Chuck so e’d better hope that’s not his title route!
Phil is right on…..
Rampage has strategically adapted and gotten so much better. Chuck is stillsame old Chuck.
You guys kill. The crowd that says the “he needs to think about his fight with Hendo”, “he is getting a big head”, “he will get KOed by Shogun or Wand again” need to get a freaking clue! It is a freaking interview. He answers the questions he is asked. Is he supposed to say, “no comment”? Stop the hating. Just because he whooped your boy Liddell not once, but twice makes me laugh.
[quote comment=”143316″]Also I think I should mention Keith Jardine’s loss to Houston Alexander. I think that it was the biggest loss in his career since it was against a newbie (to the UFC at least) and happened so quickly at a point where he had the light focussed on him, so how is he now the main event of a PPV after such a devastating loss?
This is the 1st time I have seen two guys who in their last matches were finished in less than 2 minutes of the first round, become the main event of a PPV in there very next fight!!!
Is there anyone that has an opinion on this?[/quote]
Yes, I have an opinion about this & it’s that I totally agree with you. None of it makes logical sense if you ask me. I mean, whats with the UFC & their wanting to “baby” their golden boys back to Championship status. Matt Hughes makes his way back to the title by defeating Chris Lytle? I’ll give him credit for his narrow win over Okami but explain how Rich Franklin beating MacDonald puts him in contender status? Now we have Chuck getting to earn his way back into contention if he wins against Jardine? It all smells of nepotism if you ask me.
Rampage pisses me off, it isnt his decision who he fights and he knows this, therfore he is saying this to piss Chuck and his fans off like “hes such a bad ass” and “is tired of kicking his ass”, and yes I firmly belive he got “cought” (damn thats alot of “”). The first first fight sure, he gto beat down the second fight he got couoght, Chuck has always gotten better, and will continue to get better. Look, Chuck has an EXTREMELY impressive record knocking out fighters who where much better him, or thought to be much better. Rampage is scared… period… And is trying “early” to get into chucks head.
If Rampage beats Henderson, then Shogun demolishes Griffin and Lidell wins Jardine, Machita wins Nakamura, Houston beat Alessrio, Who is Wandy fighting and when?
Rampage vs Shogun
Lidell vs Wandy or Henderson? Winner with title shot?
Machita vs Houston?
I really wish Sukoudjo was in the mix.
Very nice weightclass alot of caliber fighters anyway a lot of great fights out there for 08 and later this year!
how bout this…in the end dana could care less who wants to fight who. if chuck works his way back up to top contender then he’ll have a shot at the belt. it doesn’t matter if he gets beat by rampage a dozen times, if chuck is the fighter that is most deserving of the shot then he’ll get his shot. i don’t think it’ll be as easy for chuck anymore to be that top contender considering how stacked the 205 division is now. and whoever thinks that rampage beat him by getting lucky needs to get off chucks balls, yeah everyone loves chuck, the face of the ufc, but come on people, rampage beat him twice. it’s not luck, its an mma fight and no matter how much you want to have chuck’s babies the fact is that he lost, it’s time everyone would just admit it that chuck is not superhuman and there are fighters who can beat him.
chucks gonna have to fight more than just jardine to get to top contender status. there are already talks of him having to fight wandy and there is shogun in the division now too. lots of contenders are competing for the title shot, it’s gonna be an exciting year in the 205 division!
[quote comment=”143334″]If Rampage beats Henderson, then Shogun demolishes Griffin and Lidell wins Jardine, Machita wins Nakamura, Houston beat Alessrio, Who is Wandy fighting and when?
Rampage vs Shogun
Lidell vs Wandy or Henderson? Winner with title shot?
Machita vs Houston?
I really wish Sukoudjo was in the mix.
Very nice weightclass alot of caliber fighters anyway a lot of great fights out there for 08 and later this year![/quote]
Chuck will beat Jardine, Shogun WILL be Forest, Chuck needs two fight before title shot, therefore Chuck will face Wany onec he defeats Jardine, then the winner of that will face Sho gun or Rampage depending on the winner of that, in my opinion of course.
LOL- Why is he worried about Chuck, something’s not right up there. Rampage should go see GSP’s sports shrink. He’s cracking under pressure.
Wow, Rampage doesn’t sound too confident about beating him a third time. Either way, I could care less if they fight again. Rampage obviously has his number but Chuck is always capable of winning a fight no matter who he faces. I think there are more intriguing matchups out there though. However, I don’t see rampage having the belt past Hendo and if he does, definitely not past Shogun. I’m sure his mind will change if Chuck is an obstacle again between him and the belt.
[quote comment=”143298″]NEWS FLASH RAMPAGE!! You cant just come to the UFC, take Chucks belt which he defended several times and think you wont have to fight him again. Especially since the 2nd fight was 75% luck and we didnt really see who would have dominated who like we did the first fight. He knows Chuck is not gonna throw that body shot again and instead is gonna Knock him the fuck out. Whats funny is i guarantee he will be taking back that statement cause hes going to have to fight chuck to get the belt. Hopefully henderson beats rampage. then chuck kills jardine and beats silva to get the title shot. in the meantime rampage then will probably fight shogun and get killed again, then maybe silva and get beat again. and hen Chuck will fight henderson and knock his ass out, and then rampage will be begging to fight chuck a third time.[/quote]
why would Rampage beg Chuck for a third fight if.. Chuck’s record against Page is 0-2. With this..he beats him..yadayada and that in a third.. Chuck will not beat Wand and for sure not Shogun..Chuck can will most likely knock his head into outer space casue Jardine is slow. Now Chuck is not a Randy. So older he gets the faster he’ll hit the deck.
[quote comment=”143354″]Wow, Rampage doesn’t sound too confident about beating him a third time. Either way, I could care less if they fight again. Rampage obviously has his number but Chuck is always capable of winning a fight no matter who he faces. I think there are more intriguing matchups out there though. However, I don’t see rampage having the belt past Hendo and if he does, definitely not past Shogun. I’m sure his mind will change if Chuck is an obstacle again between him and the belt.[/quote]
“Rampage obviously has his number”…
I have a problem with this… ITS ONLY BEEN TWO FIGHTSSS!!…
Did I miss the newsflash thats says if one fight beats you twice he “OBVIOUSLY” has his number???? WHAT?!?!?!
[quote comment=”143331″]Rampage pisses me off, it isnt his decision who he fights and he knows this, therfore he is saying this to piss Chuck and his fans off like “hes such a bad ass” and “is tired of kicking his ass”, and yes I firmly belive he got “cought” (damn thats alot of “”). The first first fight sure, he gto beat down the second fight he got couoght, Chuck has always gotten better, and will continue to get better. Look, Chuck has an EXTREMELY impressive record knocking out fighters who where much better him, or thought to be much better. Rampage is scared… period… And is trying “early” to get into chucks head.[/quote]
Scared?? Of Chuck I think it’s the other way around..Rampage is the goods..and he wsa asked about a possible rematch with Chuck..and he stated his OPINION..I’m sure he does not care for one bit what Chuck thinks..feels..wants..favorite color..whatever..If Rampage beats Dan on Saturday he will be the best LHW in the world..vice versa..till future fights say other wise..for Chuck..he needs to fight and beat Jardine..then a Wand or SHOGUN..to even day dream of a shot at the title.
THEY WONT SCHEDULE CHUCK AND TITO FOR A 3RD TIME, SO WHY THE FUCK WOULD ANYONE WANA SEE THIS FOR A 3RD TIME???
KEITH JARDINE!!!! FTW!!!! HAHAHAHA
[quote comment=”143327″][quote comment=”143293″]yeh right…he got lucky that last time - besides , its not his choice who he fights - when he gets a beat down by wandy again he will want to fight for a third time too - if he gets pumled like he did last (KO through the ropes) he wont even want to fight a third time. Rampage gettin a bit big headed now n hasnt even defended his title, what a joker[/quote]
If he fights Silva again. It will be the third time….joker
Abd Silva would demolish Chuck so e’d better hope that’s not his title route![/quote]
Yeah, he missed that. But it makes his point right now. How the fuck does Ramp say he doesn’t want Liddell when Silva could claim the same bullshit on him. And really, you could always find a reason to think Chuck would win a fight with Ramp, as the first fight he was out of shape and had a torn hammy or something, and the second fight he just fucked up and got caught. Rampage got beat retarded by Silva twice and ended up lying face down in the ringropes in one of the most eviscerating and embarrasing knockouts ever. I like Ramp, and wasn’t too sorry to see the title change hands. But Liddell was the greatest LHW in the world (even to fucking sherdog) and deserves a shot at the belt no matter who’s got it.
Also, Liddell will run train on all Chutebox fighters. Mark my words, he will KO Silva and Shogun in 2008.
Shamrock owns Kimo, Tito owns Shamrock, Liddell owns Tito, Rampage owns Liddell, should I throw in Wandy here??
In MMA, sometimes one fighter simply owns another and that’s the way it is. The Rampage and Liddell talk should be put to an end. It’s on to bigger and better fights.
[quote comment=”143357″][quote comment=”143354″]Wow, Rampage doesn’t sound too confident about beating him a third time. Either way, I could care less if they fight again. Rampage obviously has his number but Chuck is always capable of winning a fight no matter who he faces. I think there are more intriguing matchups out there though. However, I don’t see rampage having the belt past Hendo and if he does, definitely not past Shogun. I’m sure his mind will change if Chuck is an obstacle again between him and the belt.[/quote]
“Rampage obviously has his number”…
I have a problem with this… ITS ONLY BEEN TWO FIGHTSSS!!…
Did I miss the newsflash thats says if one fight beats you twice he “OBVIOUSLY” has his number???? WHAT?!?!?![/quote]
…Its how the two fights went..it’s age..it’s the resumes..it’s the look in the eye at weigh ins..breaking down Chucks two fights with Page..u see a pattern..Page dominates.end of story.
If Babalu didn’t get released from the UFC and went on to win his next few fights..who do you think will win between Chuck and Babalu..hey, they only fought twice..right.
[quote comment=”143293″]yeh right…he got lucky that last time - besides , its not his choice who he fights - when he gets a beat down by wandy again he will want to fight for a third time too - if he gets pumled like he did last (KO through the ropes) he wont even want to fight a third time. Rampage gettin a bit big headed now n hasnt even defended his title, what a joker[/quote]
HE DOESENT NEED TO FIGHT CHUCK AGAIN..
who wants another SHAMROCK/TITO trilogy..
its worthless.. rampage schooled him twice already. leave it be
[quote comment=”143349″]LOL- Why is he worried about Chuck, something’s not right up there. Rampage should go see GSP’s sports shrink. He’s cracking under pressure.[/quote]
PLEASE LISTEN TO THE INTERVIEW BEFORE COMMENTING PEOPLE!
Would any of you try to intelligently discuss the details of a magazine interview after only reading the cover page?
Fine, let Chuck get destroyed by Rampage for a third time. Big deal. I just don’t want to see it again, because I already know what the outcome will be. Neither of their first 2 fights were close, so why should we be forced to watch a third? How about we have Silva vs Sakuraba 4 on the same card…
If you think the last fight was luck, then you need to do some research. There are some fighters who weren’t involved with tuf, you know
I don’t think you guys have anything to worry about. After Chuck/Jardine and Page/Hendo both of them will have to face Chute Boxe Academy guys either Shogun or Wand and I don’t see Page and Chuck being very successful against them.
[quote comment=”143303″][quote comment=”143293″]yeh right…he got lucky that last time - besides , its not his choice who he fights - when he gets a beat down by wandy again he will want to fight for a third time too - if he gets pumled like he did last (KO through the ropes) he wont even want to fight a third time. Rampage gettin a bit big headed now n hasnt even defended his title, what a joker[/quote]
Sounds like you’re doing a bit of hatin’. The fight you’re talking about was a barn burner & Rampage was absolutely dominating Wand up until that turning point where he got caught in the clinch which led to the several knees that put him to sleep.
If we’re gonna use a fighters losses as a reason to write them off then let’s talk about Chucks 1st loss to Page over in PRIDE and why didnt you write off Chuck the same way?[/quote]
Machine: U r absolutly right…. Rampage was whoopping on wanderlei (in there second fight at Pride’s “High Octain”, Rampage dropped wandy a couple times (but wandy regained his composure). Rampage looked as if he was gonna win until he got caught in the tai clinch and Wandy unleashed the knees.
Rampage is right, Y would he want to fight chuck again? He has beaten him twice already, in there first fight, I think chuck’s corner through in the towel, in the last fight he Ko’d him, neither time did Chuck make it to a decision. Chuck always wants to rematch people that beat him, so y should rampage be any different? He wants to fight wandy again, and Im pretty convinced that he will beat Wandy, Shogun on the other hand, Im not so sure about. The LHW division is so stacked. That posterboy shit is done….Its a new day in the UFC. Chuck can’t keep getting rematches after 2 wins. Chuck defended his title like what 7 or 8 times, so I agree that he deserves another crack at the title. However, if he doesnt win the title back from either Rampage, Shogun, or Hendo than He is gonna have to get in the back of the bus….There are 2 many tough 205ers out there, to keep giving chuck rematches.
If Rampage beats Hendo and then beats shogun, and Liddell beats Jardine and then Wanderlei, then I agree that Chuck should fight Rampage again for the title. As the Champion, you have to defend against the #1 contender, but If chuck looses again, I feel that he should need 4 or 5 wins b4 he is considered the #1 contender, which will get him another crack at the Title. There are just too many tough fighters in that division for chuck to get title shots every 3 fights.
In my eyes, If chuck wants to fight Rampage again he must earn it! Throw that posterboy crap out the window. With all these great fighters joining the UFC, it might be time for Dana to start looking for new posterboys (Shogun, Rampage, Anderson Silva, Fedor)
[quote comment=”143355″][quote comment=”143298″]NEWS FLASH RAMPAGE!! You cant just come to the UFC, take Chucks belt which he defended several times and think you wont have to fight him again. Especially since the 2nd fight was 75% luck and we didnt really see who would have dominated who like we did the first fight. He knows Chuck is not gonna throw that body shot again and instead is gonna Knock him the fuck out. Whats funny is i guarantee he will be taking back that statement cause hes going to have to fight chuck to get the belt. Hopefully henderson beats rampage. then chuck kills jardine and beats silva to get the title shot. in the meantime rampage then will probably fight shogun and get killed again, then maybe silva and get beat again. and hen Chuck will fight henderson and knock his ass out, and then rampage will be begging to fight chuck a third time.[/quote]
why would Rampage beg Chuck for a third fight if.. Chuck’s record against Page is 0-2. With this..he beats him..yadayada and that in a third.. Chuck will not beat Wand and for sure not Shogun..Chuck can will most likely knock his head into outer space casue Jardine is slow. Now Chuck is not a Randy. So older he gets the faster he’ll hit the deck.[/quote]
In my eyes Rampage has Dominated Chuck, is it Rampage’s fault that Chuck didnt even get a good shot off against Rampage in there second Fight. All that Luck shit is crap…. Whenever a fan doesnt like the outcome of a fight its luck. Come on, Chuck got CAUGHT! plain and simple, Rampage didnt get hit, THats dominating a fight. Should Rampage have let chuck getr up and recouperate to make u happy! If the fight doesnt make it to a decision, then whats there to discuss… Rampage not only beat chuck twice, but He finished Chuck both times….. Lets not hate on Rampage cuz Chuck’s chin couldnt hold up in their last fight.
[quote comment=”143357″][quote comment=”143354″]Wow, Rampage doesn’t sound too confident about beating him a third time. Either way, I could care less if they fight again. Rampage obviously has his number but Chuck is always capable of winning a fight no matter who he faces. I think there are more intriguing matchups out there though. However, I don’t see rampage having the belt past Hendo and if he does, definitely not past Shogun. I’m sure his mind will change if Chuck is an obstacle again between him and the belt.[/quote]
“Rampage obviously has his number”…
I have a problem with this… ITS ONLY BEEN TWO FIGHTSSS!!…
Did I miss the newsflash thats says if one fight beats you twice he “OBVIOUSLY” has his number???? WHAT?!?!?![/quote]
First let me say this…I’ve been a Chuck Liddell long before Chuck was “Chuck Liddell” that the general public knows, so it ain’t about me being a Rampage fan cause I’m not. But in two fights, Chuck has not shown one instance where he was winning either fight. So yeah I think Rampage has his number. If they fought for a third time, do I think Chuck could win? Hell yeah, Chuck is never out of a fight with those hands of his, but I sure as hell wouldn’t be surprised if Rampage beat him a third time. So for what we have seen so far and not by what could happen in the future and some fans like to imagine would happen in a third, Rampage has Chuck’s number…OBVIOUSLY!!!
I like Chuck but let’s face it, the competition is a little different in the UFC than it was 6 months ago. Chuck is no longer the top dog and with Shogun, Wandy, Hendo, and Rampage now in the mix. Who really knows how Chuck stacks up with these guys until he fights them? If you really believe Chuck is superior to those guys, then I’m doubting you have seen their fights. This isn’t Tito he’s fighting anymore.
off subject. Does anyone know if the Houston Alexander fight will make TV or is it part of the undercard?
[quote post=”3250″]You guys kill. The crowd that says the “he needs to think about his fight with Hendo”, “he is getting a big head”, “he will get KOed by Shogun or Wand again” need to get a freaking clue! It is a freaking interview. He answers the questions he is asked. Is he supposed to say, “no comment”? Stop the hating. Just because he whooped your boy Liddell not once, but twice makes me laugh. [/quote]
Thank you Muto, that is what I was going to say!
[quote post=”3250″]…Its how the two fights went..it’s age..it’s the resumes..it’s the look in the eye at weigh ins..breaking down Chucks two fights with Page..u see a pattern..Page dominates.end of story.
If Babalu didn’t get released from the UFC and went on to win his next few fights..who do you think will win between Chuck and Babalu..hey, they only fought twice..right. [/quote]
Stated perfectly. Or Put Tito in place of Babalu. Chuck has just ran into a fighter he we doesn’t match up well with in rampage.
If Chuck went the distance with Rampage two times and got robbed by the judges, that’s one thing, but he got destroyed in thier first match. What a beating. Then in the second fight, Chuck couldn’t even stay up for 2 minutes. So why should he get a rematch UNLESS he becomes the #1 contender while Rampage is the champ.
I don’t want to fight Chuck anymore = I’m tired of kicking Chuck’s ass.
That picture of Chuck makes him look like my 6th grade school teacher.
[quote comment=”143329″]You guys kill. The crowd that says the “he needs to think about his fight with Hendo”, “he is getting a big head”, “he will get KOed by Shogun or Wand again” need to get a freaking clue! It is a freaking interview. He answers the questions he is asked. Is he supposed to say, “no comment”? Stop the hating. Just because he whooped your boy Liddell not once, but twice makes me laugh.[/quote]
Right On.
Respect for the Fighters.
‘Its not the best fighter that wins, its the fighter that fights the best fight’
Both are skilled mma fighers. If they fight enough times then chuck will win one or two. Rampage is a better fighter right now, then Chuck is right now.
For all you folks looking at Pages losses in PRIDE - don’t forget - he has changed considerably since then: A rigorous training schedule, better coaching, better partners, better attitude and he is taking this more seriously.
So pack your bags and get ready for the ‘reign of rampage’ in the UFC.
Who’s this Chuck Liddell everyone is talking about?
Wait a year. I doubt a Chuck vs. Rampage III will be as interesting at the box without the Pride changeover, and with Shogun and Wanderlei in the mix.
Even now, I’m not interesting in paying to watch Chuck get his ass handed to him a third time.
[quote comment=”143316″]Also I think I should mention Keith Jardine’s loss to Houston Alexander. I think that it was the biggest loss in his career since it was against a newbie (to the UFC at least) and happened so quickly at a point where he had the light focussed on him, so how is he now the main event of a PPV after such a devastating loss?
This is the 1st time I have seen two guys who in their last matches were finished in less than 2 minutes of the first round, become the main event of a PPV in there very next fight!!!
Is there anyone that has an opinion on this?[/quote]
I agree, Personally I would have made the Shogun vs. Griffin fight as the main event. Shogun is #1 in the world, griffin is comming off a win against Hector Ramirez (even though it wasnt that impressive, atleast its a win). Griffin is a very popular fighter in the USA fan’s minds. This would make more sense than Chuck vs. Jardine
Im looking forward to these fights in this order:
#1) Shogun vs. Griffin
#2) Fitch vs. Sanchez
#3) Machida vs. Nakamura
#4) Liddell vs. Jardine (is it just me, or does this fight have no sex appeal whatsoever?) 2 construction workers going at it, both comming off of crappy performances. Im sick of all this posterboy crap!
Is it just me, or did I c Chuck with his Mohawk shaved off at UFC 74?
[quote comment=”143393″]If Chuck went the distance with Rampage two times and got robbed by the judges, that’s one thing, but he got destroyed in thier first match. What a beating. Then in the second fight, Chuck couldn’t even stay up for 2 minutes. So why should he get a rematch UNLESS he becomes the #1 contender while Rampage is the champ.[/quote]
100% correct!
This is stupid, I thought MMA was suppose to be about fighting, not about who you fight. I lost a lot of respect for Rampage on this one. Chuck would have fought anyone a million times. This is stupid coming from the champ, I was 50/50 on picking him or Hendo to win, but now I hope Hendo beats the shit outta him. He really doesnt need to be holding a belt, if he doesnt want to fight the best, even if he did beat him twice already. Fedor fought Mirko twice, Mirko fought Nogeiro 3 times, and Im pretty sure they would all fight each other again and again and AGAIN!
[quote comment=”143386″]off subject. Does anyone know if the Houston Alexander fight will make TV or is it part of the undercard?[/quote]
Im pretty sure that it will be the 1st fight televised…. It will definetly be on T.V
I like Chuck but let’s face it, the competition is a little different in the UFC than it was 6 months ago. Chuck is no longer the top dog and with Shogun, Wandy, Hendo, and Rampage now in the mix. Who really knows how Chuck stacks up with these guys until he fights them? If you really believe Chuck is superior to those guys, then I’m doubting you have seen their fights. This isn’t Tito he’s fighting anymore.
Exactly! Good post Steve
[quote comment=”143303″][quote comment=”143293″]yeh right…he got lucky that last time - besides , its not his choice who he fights - when he gets a beat down by wandy again he will want to fight for a third time too - if he gets pumled like he did last (KO through the ropes) he wont even want to fight a third time. Rampage gettin a bit big headed now n hasnt even defended his title, what a joker[/quote]
Sounds like you’re doing a bit of hatin’. The fight you’re talking about was a barn burner & Rampage was absolutely dominating Wand up until that turning point where he got caught in the clinch which led to the several knees that put him to sleep.
If we’re gonna use a fighters losses as a reason to write them off then let’s talk about Chucks 1st loss to Page over in PRIDE and why didnt you write off Chuck the same way?[/quote]
Machine, its like this. A nuthugger does not care about reality. He only cares about the nuts that he hugs. I totally agree with you though. This guy is just hating. Rampage has shown he is much more well rounded than Chuck and not afraid of his strikes.
[quote comment=”143423″]This is stupid, I thought MMA was suppose to be about fighting, not about who you fight. I lost a lot of respect for Rampage on this one. Chuck would have fought anyone a million times. This is stupid coming from the champ, I was 50/50 on picking him or Hendo to win, but now I hope Hendo beats the shit outta him. He really doesnt need to be holding a belt, if he doesnt want to fight the best, even if he did beat him twice already. Fedor fought Mirko twice, Mirko fought Nogeiro 3 times, and Im pretty sure they would all fight each other again and again and AGAIN![/quote]
Dude, he was answering a question. Its not like he said, “There is no way I fight Chuck again.”
All Rampage is saying is that he has nothing to gain from beating Chuck again, and everything to lose if he doesn’t. It actually makes sense when you look at it without being totally biased towards Chuck and against Rampage.
yea I like Rampage, but he says dumb things alot. He should fihgt anyone anytime anywhere…and why is he even talking about Chuck??? He should be worried about other guys like say for instance…Hendo?
[quote comment=”143431″]A nuthugger does not care about reality. He only cares about the nuts that he hugs.[/quote]
I’m going to have to steal that one from you for later use. Couldn’t have said it any better myself
Rampage doesn’t want to fight chuck again because he’s afraid his luck will run out. Nobody has anybodies number thats bs, its a fight and even if it were 50/50 odds its not a big deal to win twice in a row….please. Chuck does have the tools to KO rampage if you don’t believe that your delusional. I would love to see these guys fight again, and feel it would go differently . If rampage wins his next two fight he most likely will be fighting chuck again, its not up to him, if chuck earns a title shot he has to fight him or step down from title.
[quote comment=”143431″][quote comment=”143303″][quote comment=”143293″]yeh right…he got lucky that last time - besides , its not his choice who he fights - when he gets a beat down by wandy again he will want to fight for a third time too - if he gets pumled like he did last (KO through the ropes) he wont even want to fight a third time. Rampage gettin a bit big headed now n hasnt even defended his title, what a joker[/quote]
Sounds like you’re doing a bit of hatin’. The fight you’re talking about was a barn burner & Rampage was absolutely dominating Wand up until that turning point where he got caught in the clinch which led to the several knees that put him to sleep.
If we’re gonna use a fighters losses as a reason to write them off then let’s talk about Chucks 1st loss to Page over in PRIDE and why didnt you write off Chuck the same way?[/quote]
Machine, its like this. A nuthugger does not care about reality. He only cares about the nuts that he hugs. I totally agree with you though. This guy is just hating. Rampage has shown he is much more well rounded than Chuck and not afraid of his strikes.[/quote]
Mahde - nut huggin? i aint hatin, im a big fan of the sport. i havnt said anything hateful about rampage! he is being big headed and thinks he can decide on the matchups - he has no right to say who he does or doesnt want to fight. He should try and take on anyone who comes his way, without argument or.
[quote comment=”143443″]Rampage doesn’t want to fight chuck again because he’s afraid his luck will run out. Nobody has anybodies number thats bs, its a fight and even if it were 50/50 odds its not a big deal to win twice in a row….please. Chuck does have the tools to KO rampage if you don’t believe that your delusional. I would love to see these guys fight again, and feel it would go differently . If rampage wins his next two fight he most likely will be fighting chuck again, its not up to him, if chuck earns a title shot he has to fight him or step down from title.[/quote]
..Page just stated his OPINION..on a Chuck rematch..If he is the Champ and Chuck is the number 1 contender..you don’t think he’ll fight him..Cause his luck might of run out?? What both fights..Chuck got Steam rolled..2X!!
The first fight in Japan..Page beat him up so bad his corner threw in the towell..the second fight in the U.S. I didn’t have two even blick once, cuz the was over!! Hey why not have the 3rd fight in Mexico..Page can beat him up in 3 continents.
Seeing Rampage fight Chuck for a third time would be like getting Liddell v Ortiz 3.
Rampage beat chuck bad the first time and made him pay for the same sloppy punch he always throws in the second fight. He also avoided the ol’ thumb in the eye.
I’d much rather see Jackson try to avenge losses to Silva and Rua, provided he gets by henderson.
I’m probably going to get a lot of hate for that one, but oh well
[quote comment=”143423″]This is stupid, I thought MMA was suppose to be about fighting, not about who you fight. I lost a lot of respect for Rampage on this one. Chuck would have fought anyone a million times. This is stupid coming from the champ, I was 50/50 on picking him or Hendo to win, but now I hope Hendo beats the shit outta him. He really doesnt need to be holding a belt, if he doesnt want to fight the best, even if he did beat him twice already. Fedor fought Mirko twice, Mirko fought Nogeiro 3 times, and Im pretty sure they would all fight each other again and again and AGAIN![/quote]
Fedor only fought Mirco once
Fedor fought Noguerra 3 times, 1 time it was ruled a no contest because Fedor suffered a nasty cut do to an illegal move (headbutt)
Haw cany anyone say Rampage is scared of chuck? Rampage wants to fight other people 1st. Chuck always wanted to rematch against fighters who beat him, and y should Rampage be any different. He wants wandy and Shogun! He has nothing to gain by beating chuck.
Chuck never even made it to a decision vs. Rampage. All page was doing was answering the interviewers questions…… How can something so stupid like this, start such a big debate. People r nutts!
sorry rampage but you dont chose who you fight. If you have the title your not gonna have fights handed to you. If your gonna be the best your gonna fight the best. If chuck loses to you 10time and makes his way back to a title shot you will fight him again. Get over with it. That is if chuck wins his next