Comments on: Babalu says I’m sorry to David Heath; $25K withheld and still not out of the woods http://mmamania.com/2007/08/31/babalu-says-im-sorry-to-david-heath-fined-25k-and-still-not-out-of-the-woods/ UFC news, event schedules, fight analysis, Octagon predictions, UFC fighters and MMA thoughts Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:26:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: JERRY http://mmamania.com/2007/08/31/babalu-says-im-sorry-to-david-heath-fined-25k-and-still-not-out-of-the-woods/#comment-144247 JERRY Fri, 07 Sep 2007 22:22:28 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/08/31/babalu-says-im-sorry-to-david-heath-fined-25k-and-still-not-out-of-the-woods/#comment-144247 [quote comment="139971"]He just wants his money[/quote] GIVE HEATH THE MONEY [quote comment=”139971″]He just wants his money[/quote]
GIVE HEATH THE MONEY

]]> By: Nevada State Athletic Commission Must Act-Boxing & MMA-GoTeamsGo Sports Fan Forum http://mmamania.com/2007/08/31/babalu-says-im-sorry-to-david-heath-fined-25k-and-still-not-out-of-the-woods/#comment-140837 Nevada State Athletic Commission Must Act-Boxing & MMA-GoTeamsGo Sports Fan Forum Sun, 02 Sep 2007 18:22:41 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/08/31/babalu-says-im-sorry-to-david-heath-fined-25k-and-still-not-out-of-the-woods/#comment-140837 [...] Nevada State Athletic Commission Must Act The Ultimate Fighting Championship has fired Renato "Babalu" Sobral for his actions at UFC 74, holding onto his choke hold even after his opponent, David Heath, tapped out. But while Babalu issued a statement saying he was sorry for the damage he did to the sport of mixed martial arts, this shouldn't be over just yet. The Nevada State Athletic Commission should impose a long suspension on Babalu, preventing him from fighting with other mixed martial arts organizations. Unfortunately, NSAC executive director Keith Kizer indicates that won't happen. "I've looked at the tape a lot. While I do believe there was some intent here, I don't think this rises to the level of some other things we've seen [i.e. the infamous Mike Tyson ear-biting attack on Evander Holyfield in 1997]." I'm not so sure I agree: Biting your opponent's ear can't kill him; refusing to let go of a choke can. Babalu should be banned from the sport. UFC Fires Babalu, Now Nevada State Athletic Commission Must Act - FanHouse - AOL Sports Blog __________________ Music City Miracle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd9rKIKS6Jk 2006 Vince Young Highlights http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1ujOiyzjpw [...] […] Nevada State Athletic Commission Must Act The Ultimate Fighting Championship has fired Renato "Babalu" Sobral for his actions at UFC 74, holding onto his choke hold even after his opponent, David Heath, tapped out. But while Babalu issued a statement saying he was sorry for the damage he did to the sport of mixed martial arts, this shouldn’t be over just yet. The Nevada State Athletic Commission should impose a long suspension on Babalu, preventing him from fighting with other mixed martial arts organizations. Unfortunately, NSAC executive director Keith Kizer indicates that won’t happen. "I’ve looked at the tape a lot. While I do believe there was some intent here, I don’t think this rises to the level of some other things we’ve seen [i.e. the infamous Mike Tyson ear-biting attack on Evander Holyfield in 1997]." I’m not so sure I agree: Biting your opponent’s ear can’t kill him; refusing to let go of a choke can. Babalu should be banned from the sport. UFC Fires Babalu, Now Nevada State Athletic Commission Must Act - FanHouse - AOL Sports Blog __________________ Music City Miracle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd9rKIKS6Jk 2006 Vince Young Highlights http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1ujOiyzjpw […]

]]> By: marshal http://mmamania.com/2007/08/31/babalu-says-im-sorry-to-david-heath-fined-25k-and-still-not-out-of-the-woods/#comment-140506 marshal Sun, 02 Sep 2007 03:04:54 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/08/31/babalu-says-im-sorry-to-david-heath-fined-25k-and-still-not-out-of-the-woods/#comment-140506 I wish Big John was ref for this fight. He knows how to break stuff up! BIG JOHN!!! I wish Big John was ref for this fight. He knows how to break stuff up!
BIG JOHN!!!

]]> By: Robin http://mmamania.com/2007/08/31/babalu-says-im-sorry-to-david-heath-fined-25k-and-still-not-out-of-the-woods/#comment-140466 Robin Sat, 01 Sep 2007 23:58:17 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/08/31/babalu-says-im-sorry-to-david-heath-fined-25k-and-still-not-out-of-the-woods/#comment-140466 Its done, stick a fork in it. The only reason BJ didnt get tossed is back then there was only "shrek" that was a big name in the -155 division. Its that simple. And of course he didnt shoot his mouth off. But then again the UFC can edit or choose not to show him talking... So they are as much to blame. Its done, stick a fork in it. The only reason BJ didnt get tossed is back then there was only “shrek” that was a big name in the -155 division. Its that simple. And of course he didnt shoot his mouth off. But then again the UFC can edit or choose not to show him talking… So they are as much to blame.

]]> By: pUniSHment http://mmamania.com/2007/08/31/babalu-says-im-sorry-to-david-heath-fined-25k-and-still-not-out-of-the-woods/#comment-140455 pUniSHment Sat, 01 Sep 2007 23:01:27 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/08/31/babalu-says-im-sorry-to-david-heath-fined-25k-and-still-not-out-of-the-woods/#comment-140455 [quote comment="140276"][quote comment="140084"]Everyone needs to stop "HATING" on BJ. BJ did not hold the choke on Pulver nearly as long as Babalu held it on Heath. BJ only had an extra "TUG" on Jens when he tapped..Please get your facts straight before posting these types of comments.[/quote] pUniSHment, Not only did BJ deliberately hold that choke too long, but he also had a fight ending arm bar early in the fight that he released on purpose. He did both of these things in order to punish Jens Pulver. BJ Penn is considered the best in this sport by almost all the fighters. He set a very bad example in the Pulver fight.[/quote] NONONO MrFye. He did have Jens in an armbar, BUT determined that he had a better move to apply to Jens. NO MMA FIGHTER will ever let go of a submission if they have the opportunity to win a fight. He also said in a later interview that he believed that the armbar was not secured well enough and that Jens did a good job of getting out of the submission.. Your comment is ridiculous. [quote comment=”140276″][quote comment=”140084″]Everyone needs to stop “HATING” on BJ. BJ did not hold the choke on Pulver nearly as long as Babalu held it on Heath. BJ only had an extra “TUG” on Jens when he tapped..Please get your facts straight before posting these types of comments.[/quote]

pUniSHment, Not only did BJ deliberately hold that choke too long, but he also had a fight ending arm bar early in the fight that he released on purpose. He did both of these things in order to punish Jens Pulver. BJ Penn is considered the best in this sport by almost all the fighters. He set a very bad example in the Pulver fight.[/quote]

NONONO MrFye. He did have Jens in an armbar, BUT determined that he had a better move to apply to Jens. NO MMA FIGHTER will ever let go of a submission if they have the opportunity to win a fight. He also said in a later interview that he believed that the armbar was not secured well enough and that Jens did a good job of getting out of the submission.. Your comment is ridiculous.

]]> By: grembone http://mmamania.com/2007/08/31/babalu-says-im-sorry-to-david-heath-fined-25k-and-still-not-out-of-the-woods/#comment-140416 grembone Sat, 01 Sep 2007 21:06:33 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/08/31/babalu-says-im-sorry-to-david-heath-fined-25k-and-still-not-out-of-the-woods/#comment-140416 [quote comment="140351"]Babalu's native language isn't English. Did he express himself properly on the microphone?[/quote] That is a good point. Wandy said he wanted to "F" Chuck. Maybe he didn't mean what was said?? [quote comment=”140351″]Babalu’s native language isn’t English.

Did he express himself properly on the microphone?[/quote]

That is a good point. Wandy said he wanted to “F” Chuck. Maybe he didn’t mean what was said??

]]> By: wilson http://mmamania.com/2007/08/31/babalu-says-im-sorry-to-david-heath-fined-25k-and-still-not-out-of-the-woods/#comment-140359 wilson Sat, 01 Sep 2007 17:00:48 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/08/31/babalu-says-im-sorry-to-david-heath-fined-25k-and-still-not-out-of-the-woods/#comment-140359 The hold was held no longer then BJ's hold, but Rento had intent behind what he did. I dont think that pulling out of his contract was the right thing to do, the fine he already has been given would be fair maybe a suspension but in no way pull out of his contract. The hold was held no longer then BJ’s hold, but Rento had intent behind what he did. I dont think that pulling out of his contract was the right thing to do, the fine he already has been given would be fair maybe a suspension but in no way pull out of his contract.

]]> By: Plinko http://mmamania.com/2007/08/31/babalu-says-im-sorry-to-david-heath-fined-25k-and-still-not-out-of-the-woods/#comment-140352 Plinko Sat, 01 Sep 2007 16:15:45 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/08/31/babalu-says-im-sorry-to-david-heath-fined-25k-and-still-not-out-of-the-woods/#comment-140352 Both sides are wrong in this case. Babalu jeopardized the sports image, not to mention Heath, and then braged about it. That really annoys me because as a fan of mma im constantly hearing people bad mouth the sport for being nothing but a bunch of street-fighting thugs with no class and no brains. The ufc isnt as dangerous as the critics make it out to be, but that is only because they have a stict set of rules and the best refs to enforce those rules. However if the fighters dont follow the refs instructions then it is a dangerous sport. On the other hand, Babalu isnt the only one to pull this kind of stunt. It seems that Dana has set him up to be the fall guy. This wasnt done to enforce the rules, it was done protect the image of the UFC. The A-list fighters are not going to be afraid of being punished because they know that the Dana needs them as much as they need him. Both sides are wrong in this case. Babalu jeopardized the sports image, not to mention Heath, and then braged about it. That really annoys me because as a fan of mma im constantly hearing people bad mouth the sport for being nothing but a bunch of street-fighting thugs with no class and no brains. The ufc isnt as dangerous as the critics make it out to be, but that is only because they have a stict set of rules and the best refs to enforce those rules. However if the fighters dont follow the refs instructions then it is a dangerous sport. On the other hand, Babalu isnt the only one to pull this kind of stunt. It seems that Dana has set him up to be the fall guy. This wasnt done to enforce the rules, it was done protect the image of the UFC. The A-list fighters are not going to be afraid of being punished because they know that the Dana needs them as much as they need him.

]]> By: Hoodlum http://mmamania.com/2007/08/31/babalu-says-im-sorry-to-david-heath-fined-25k-and-still-not-out-of-the-woods/#comment-140351 Hoodlum Sat, 01 Sep 2007 16:11:53 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/08/31/babalu-says-im-sorry-to-david-heath-fined-25k-and-still-not-out-of-the-woods/#comment-140351 Babalu's native language isn't English. Did he express himself properly on the microphone? Babalu’s native language isn’t English.

Did he express himself properly on the microphone?

]]> By: john http://mmamania.com/2007/08/31/babalu-says-im-sorry-to-david-heath-fined-25k-and-still-not-out-of-the-woods/#comment-140342 john Sat, 01 Sep 2007 15:29:20 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/08/31/babalu-says-im-sorry-to-david-heath-fined-25k-and-still-not-out-of-the-woods/#comment-140342 Man, I just saw the clip for the 1st time, and that does not warrant his contract to be terminated. The choke wasnt that bad, whats bad is his interview where he said it was deliberate. That is horrible for the growth of mma. If he didnt open his big mouth, he would still have a job. Its a shame to loose Babalu cuz of his big mouth. What an idiot. Man, I just saw the clip for the 1st time, and that does not warrant his contract to be terminated. The choke wasnt that bad, whats bad is his interview where he said it was deliberate. That is horrible for the growth of mma. If he didnt open his big mouth, he would still have a job.

Its a shame to loose Babalu cuz of his big mouth. What an idiot.

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