can you imagine if randy couture failed a steroid test .. the devastation!

Thank god we at least got through 1 ufc without any high profile test failure. Would have gone off without any black marks had Babalu not pulled his little stunt

[quote comment=”138263″]Thank god we at least got through 1 ufc without any high profile test failure. Would have gone off without any black marks had Babalu not pulled his little stunt[/quote]

Havent most of them gone this well? I know the last one was embarrasing, but its really not that bad. ANd again, I see the Babalu thing as unsportsman-like conduct. Plenty of athletes have done stupid things in the heat of competition, let alone in the heat of a fight.

[quote post=”3195″]ANd again, I see the Babalu thing as unsportsman-like conduct. Plenty of athletes have done stupid things in the heat of competition, let alone in the heat of a fight. [/quote]

I wish that I could agree with you but David Heath could have been seriously hurt. Bad judgment by Sobral, hope he learns his lesson with a fine/suspension.

JaCoB - I have to agree. Whether UFC “disciplines” Babalu is another matter. I’d rather just leave it at the NSAC’s pay withholding and call it even. Aside from the too-long anaconda choke, the fight was a good one. A bit bloody, but still good. Keeping Babalu around for a chance for somebody else to take him out would be nice. Throw him at Liddell again, let Liddell teach Babalu some “respect”.

[quote comment=”138278″]JaCoB - I have to agree. Whether UFC “disciplines” Babalu is another matter. I’d rather just leave it at the NSAC’s pay withholding and call it even. Aside from the too-long anaconda choke, the fight was a good one. A bit bloody, but still good. Keeping Babalu around for a chance for somebody else to take him out would be nice. Throw him at Liddell again, let Liddell teach Babalu some “respect”.[/quote]
bablu would take liddell

Babalu is the man

Steroids has gotten so bad recently, or at least a lot of people have been busted, I was actually wondering who would fail this go around. Surprisingly, nobody failed. Great News! We need a few more clean events, before everyone stops pointing fingers at who is on roids and who isnt each fight.

[quote comment=”138288″][quote comment=”138278″]JaCoB - I have to agree. Whether UFC “disciplines” Babalu is another matter. I’d rather just leave it at the NSAC’s pay withholding and call it even. Aside from the too-long anaconda choke, the fight was a good one. A bit bloody, but still good. Keeping Babalu around for a chance for somebody else to take him out would be nice. Throw him at Liddell again, let Liddell teach Babalu some “respect”.
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bablu would take liddell[/quote]

Babalu has fallen at the hands of Lidell twice (or to be more accurate fallen to the hands and feet of Lidell). So I wouldn’t put money on your prediction if I was you.

Oh and it is good to see all the fighters passing. I just hope this continues for a long time. The longer these events go without a positive the better.

Babalu’s long choke is nothign out of the ordinary. People are just up in arms about it because Heath was bleeding so bad.

If more fighters had tested positive, MMA would start to look really bad for people who aren’t HARDCORE fans.

[quote post=”3195″]bablu would take liddell[/quote]

Your’re actually right, ‘Bablu the KickBoxing Baboon’ might have a chance against Liddell. But Renato BABALU Sabrol has already lost twice to Chuck in devastating fashion. I would say that Chuck has his number. Especially after how bad Babalu looked against Chuck in thier last fight.

However, if they were to fight in about 8 years or so, that would make Babalu like 39, and Chuck around 45 years old. Then and only then would he have a chance. But actually, I’d still go with Chuck assuming his belly hasn’t turned into Tank Abbott’s

I’m surprised they even tested Alberto Crane. That guy was literally a laughing stock in the octagon. He is only the 2nd American to win the MUNDIALS (BJ the first of course) over in Brazil, and he was dominated even on the ground by the untested-high potential Roger Huerta. Crane came into the octagon looking like a 12 year old boy. Huerta’s lucky he didn’t get arrested for child abuse!

Huerta always looks ripped, so I can understand testing him for steroids - even though I doubt he uses, but you never know. But I really think that they wasted a test on Crane.

Which leads me to a quick question that I thought of.

Whenever I see test results from the UFC, I alwasy see that it is an even number of tests, and they chose fights to test - so that both of the fighters are tested. Is this mandatory that if they test one fighter in a fight that they must test the other? Or could the UFC have tested Huerta and Babalu (not testing Crane or Heath)?

Does anyone know the details on this? I would assume that they would have to test BOTH fighters in a fight. That would be pretty unfair to only test one of the fighters. For an over the top example, it would be like Randy getting a rematch with Barnett and Randy gets tested but Barnett doesn’t. Especially competitively speaking, it would be unfair to only test one of the fighters.

I think I just answered my own question, but like I said, if somone knows the exact details of how the testing works, I would like to know.

Thanks

[quote comment=”138288″][quote comment=”138278″]JaCoB - I have to agree. Whether UFC “disciplines” Babalu is another matter. I’d rather just leave it at the NSAC’s pay withholding and call it even. Aside from the too-long anaconda choke, the fight was a good one. A bit bloody, but still good. Keeping Babalu around for a chance for somebody else to take him out would be nice. Throw him at Liddell again, let Liddell teach Babalu some “respect”.[/quote]
bablu would take liddell[/quote]
Right……thats y Liddell ko’ed Babalu twice already.

I’m almost as excited for these results as I am for the actual events.

Anyone know what the ppv numbers were for ufc 74? after this long lag between events, you would hope they would have pulled in a good number. ppv buys imo is the most telling and significant marker of ufc success.

Kendall Grove will fail for Reefer

[quote comment=”138527″][quote post=”3195″]bablu would take liddell[/quote]

Your’re actually right, ‘Bablu the KickBoxing Baboon’ might have a chance against Liddell. But Renato BABALU Sabrol has already lost twice to Chuck in devastating fashion. I would say that Chuck has his number. Especially after how bad Babalu looked against Chuck in thier last fight.

However, if they were to fight in about 8 years or so, that would make Babalu like 39, and Chuck around 45 years old. Then and only then would he have a chance. But actually, I’d still go with Chuck assuming his belly hasn’t turned into Tank Abbott’s[/quote]

When Babalu fought chuck, chuck koed him, he was so messed up that Babalu tackled and tried to grapple wit Big John Mccarthy…. That was the funniest thing I’ve ever seen! Babalu vs. Chuck 3 will never happen, nor do i want it to happen. Babalu never stood a chance in either fight, having a 3rd fight between the 2 would be like ortiz vs. Shamrock 3 - Pointless

I don’t understand why they aren’t testing all the fighters after events. They should also randomly test fighters on the roster between events just to make sure they don’t roid up and cycle off before the fight. It’s a minimal expense and would go a long way toward legitimizing MMA to the ignorant dolts who cover mainstream sports and bash UFC.

Mike: I know nothing about the testing. I would assume that you r correct that if they test 1 fighter, then they have to test the other. I cant say for certain how it works, but what u said would seem right, being the fairest scenario

Every single fighter must be tested or its a joke IMO. Are they serious about fighting juicing or not?

[quote post=”3195″]Every single fighter must be tested or its a joke IMO. Are they serious about fighting juicing or not?[/quote]

Yes, thest them all, or don’t even bother testing any of them. It’s basically allowing the undercard fighters to juice up and not even worry about getting cought.

Seeing everyone pass their test so far, is such a good thing for the UFC, especially after that last event. If the fighters would stop juicing, not fist fight and binge dring on the TUF show, and wit the HBO contract in place, I see the UFC being able to make great strides in becoming more “MAINSTREAM”.

Speaking of Roids, How the Hell will Brock Lessner ever pass a drug test? thats a joke? What is Dana thinking. If Dana wants him to fight in the UFC give him a 1 shot deal, let him fight BIG TIM, Maul tim into retirement, fail his drug test, and then not resigned!

Brock Lessner and sean Sherk = Dr. Evil and Minnie ME!

I find it hard to believe Randy Couture is not on steroids he has all the signs of steroids abuse. I bet Randy is just good at cleaning his system before a drug test. It is hard to hit home runs like Barry Bonds does at his age, Randy is 44 and holds that much well defined muscle plus fights guys half his age! The huge jaw, baldness, and rounded muscles at age 44- either Randy has abnormally high testosterone levels that miraculously never declined with age or he takes steroids. 99% sure it is the latter

Sorry to get off topic, but does anyone have any info on how the UFC will be used by HBO. I heard that the deal was in place, but I would like to know what they will do with it.

If anyone has any ideas please let me know!

It would be nice if the UFC started to schedule events like they r in September. Iknow keeping up that pace is impossible (3 pay per views in 6 weeks, wit a Ultimate fight night live in between events. But a 3 events in 2 months pace would be great!!!

I doubt it will go down like that though!

Also does anyone know exactly on what day Fedor and Dana will be meeting?

By only testing half of the fights, that gives a fighter a 50% chance of getting away with steroid use in a fight. No wonder so many have recently tried. Does that mean that if 3 are caught (sherk, franca, bonnar - were there more?), then there is a good chance that 6 actually were using in the same time span?

As to why they only test half? Doesn’t it cost like $2500 per test? i don’t know who shoulders that cost (UFC or NSAC) but i’m sure that’s plays a part.

Testing doesn’t mean shit! All of the Bodybuilders are tested-they just know how to clean their system before a test. I bet all of you think Ronnie Coleman is natural too! I took steroids for years and I know there muscle building potential. A real non steroid figher looks like Rocky Marciano or Muhammad Ali and not Jeff Monson or Randy Couture.

[quote comment=”138651″]Testing doesn’t mean shit! All of the Bodybuilders are tested-they just know how to clean their system before a test. I bet all of you think Ronnie Coleman is natural too! I took steroids for years and I know there muscle building potential. A real non steroid figher looks like Rocky Marciano or Muhammad Ali and not Jeff Monson or Randy Couture.[/quote]
LOL I’ve seen MANY guys who a better built than randy couture who are very natural, I’ve never taken steroids myself and have been accused of it, some people have good genetic’s and have that body builder look. The pro body builders obviously take steroids but these guys are 270 - 300lbs off season and are 5′8 to 5′10, there monsters, they would make Monson or couture look like a twigs standing next to them. Jay cutler and ronnie coleman are the top bodybuilders right now and these guys are freaking HUGE, randy on juice…..he sure doesn’t look it to me and I doubt he’s that stupid to risk ruining himself.

You can get much more ripped that Couture if you work out all the time.

[quote comment=”138651″]Testing doesn’t mean shit! All of the Bodybuilders are tested-they just know how to clean their system before a test.[/quote]

That is a good point there, the UFC needs random testing for all fighters year round. If you are under contract expect to be tested at random even if you are not fighting.

[quote post=”3195″]I find it hard to believe Randy Couture is not on steroids he has all the signs of steroids abuse. I bet Randy is just good at cleaning his system before a drug test. It is hard to hit home runs like Barry Bonds does at his age, Randy is 44 and holds that much well defined muscle plus fights guys half his age! The huge jaw, baldness, and rounded muscles at age 44- either Randy has abnormally high testosterone levels that miraculously never declined with age or he takes steroids. 99% sure it is the latter [/quote]

BLASPHEMY!!!!

Randy Couture looks the way he does at his age because of the way he TRAINS. He out works and out hustles everyone at his gym and they are all half his age. Randy has more heart than anyone. If he ever gets to that point in a fight where he does start to tire a little bit (I don’t know if this will ever happen…), his heart would kick right in and he would be able to keep up his furious pace.

“either Randy has abnormally high testosterone levels that miraculously never declined with age or he takes steroids. 99% sure it is the latter ”

How are you able to come to this conclusion? Randy is the EXCEPTION, not the RULE. If every human being was the same in every aspect including genetics and DNA, we would be a bunch of cloned Lemmings running around planet earth. Most people on this earth are what is considered to be average. Then there is above average and below average. Randy is the most rare case of being extraordinary.

Keep in mind that Randy has only been fighting professionally for 10 years. He was strictly a GreccoRoman wrestler thru the age of 33. Can you imagine if Randy was training MMA from the time he was 20? Sure MMA didn’t exist back then, but its just a theoretical question.

Randy on Roids talk is ridiculous, and I wont eeven further comment on that!

wait till they test BROCK LESNER…. His DNA must have morphed into something not human.

[quote post=”3195″]Sorry to get off topic, but does anyone have any info on how the UFC will be used by HBO. I heard that the deal was in place, but I would like to know what they will do with it.
If anyone has any ideas please let me know! [/quote]

Has the deal been signed officially?

When the deal is in place, from what I understand John is that they will have fighters progress like this.

TUF is for the newcomers that are willing to be on a reality show.

Ultimate Fight Nights are the bottom of the barrell events of the UFC, and it will continue to stay that way. This is where you will see a lot of fighters from TUF as well as UFC newcomers.

Then as some of those fighters win fights, they would progress to fight on UFC’s HBO events. These would have bigger names than on Ultimate Fight Nights, but not Pay Per View quality. For example, you’ll never see Randy fight on HBO.

The UFC PPV’s will continue to be the top MMA events. We all know what a UFC PPV is like.

So with this HBO deal in place, there is a sort of progression that the fighters will take in order to make it onto the PPV. This makes me happy because I can’t stand paying money to see the likes of Alberto Crane fight in the octagon!

[quote comment=”138888″] This makes me happy because I can’t stand paying money to see the likes of Alberto Crane fight in the octagon![/quote]

As long as Dana keep protecting fighters like he does you will continue to see big mismatches like that.

[quote post=”3195″]As long as Dana keep protecting fighters like he does you will continue to see big mismatches like that. [/quote]

But with Spike TV and now HBO we shouldnt have to pay $40 to see it.

[quote post=”3195″]I find it hard to believe Randy Couture is not on steroids he has all the signs of steroids abuse. I bet Randy is just good at cleaning his system before a drug test. It is hard to hit home runs like Barry Bonds does at his age, Randy is 44 and holds that much well defined muscle plus fights guys half his age! The huge jaw, baldness, and rounded muscles at age 44- either Randy has abnormally high testosterone levels that miraculously never declined with age or he takes steroids. 99% sure it is the latter [/quote]
All the signs of steroid abuse,WHAT? Tito and Jay Lenno have huge jaws( they must be juice freaks),or maybe it’s genetics. Baldness is genetic, and if you are predisposed to it, your losing you’re hair ,with or without steroids (steroids will make it fall out FAST) Randy lost his hair SLOWLY. Most 44 year olds sit on the couch with a beer in their hand, no doubt they lack rounded muscles. Intense training grately increases testosterone levels and HGH. Randy’s build is NOWHERE out of the ordinary for a guy who is a natural messomorph with a clean, hard training lifestyle( yes even at 44). The guys who abuse steroids ,fall apart before they are 44 and wouldn’t be able to be a champion at that age. Do you think Randy would have the cardio he has, with the damage the juice does to your heart? Bitch tits, distended gut(enlarged organs) and shoulders falling out of place easily (because of the weakened conective tissue) like Josh Barnett are signs of steroid abuse. Randy suffers from none of these. I’m 99% sure THE NATUAL doesn’t do steroids. Of course there is a chance that he does, but I can’t see a man of his integrity wanting to win by cheating, or destroy his legacy. Alot of people talk like 40ish is over the hill in this sport and I might have believed them if 3 (Couture,Liddel,Henderson) of the oldest guys didn’t know more about championships and BELTS than any of the 20 year olds.