I love Rich and think he’s a total class act but Silvs is gonna smash him… Again

I rented the DVD of 64 the other day and man did Silva crush Franklin. That wasn’t even close.

Franklin was sick in their first fight one of his trainers slipped it out in an interview a while ago.

It will be a good fight none the less, I will be there with my .22. Cause if Franklin starts losing, I will start shooting.

After the first knee Rich had the most blank stare on his face. He was stuck in the clinch and I don’t see him doing much better this time. Would be cool if he did though, I don’t see anyone else beating Silva right now if he can’t. Maybe Hendo.

Rich went in with a really stupid gameplan. It won’t happen again. He’ll take his title back.

Rich Franklin is fighting for alot, he is fighting for mine and his homeland of Cincinnati Ohio. He has almost everybody in there to watch him and only him. (I am also there for Jorge Gurgel! and great action!) He has more pressure than Anderson Silva.

Look Franklin got sloppy. really sloppy at UFC 64 with his punches, and I think he will have a more precise striking gameplan for Anderson Silva, but I think somewherel ignering in his head, he would be afraid of the clinch, and that will lead to his downfall.

WAR CINCINNATI!

Anderson Silva is just better in EVERY aspect. His a better striker, better on the ground and obviously better in the clinch. WE’ll see what plan of attack Franklin resorts to in this one. Anderson Silva is beatable, just probably not by any middleweight in the UFC. Franklin has the best shot out of any of them.

Rich has trained extensively on how to get out of a mui tai clinch since then - trust me, it won’t be the same fight as before. I had never seen Franklin so “mentally out of it” as I did in that fight with Silva so I think we’ll see a great fight this time around no matter who wins.

Franklin will get hurt..I hope not seriously agansit Anderson..it being in cincy…his closer to his favorite doctor/hospital..and all this talk of Franklin’s game plan yada yada..I’ve never seen a fighter more scared to fight then him..” The most dominate UFC MW champ RFranklin defends his title against his most dangerous opponent yet “..and what happens he doesn’t know how to deal with a Thai clinch..he is good fighter..but not a Anderson Silva…this is like all the hype arounf Nate Marq…b4 his face was nailed to the canvas.. for all the die hard Rich fans..ur boy has been exposed..” even though no one works out like he does “..except for RoidedShark BOy…he will not be UFC MW champ..again unless his shoots Silva with a big gun..( desert easgle or something )

Dear oh dear… I can see the dark clouds forming over Franklin’s head now… Could this be the final nail in the coffin…

[quote post=”3177″]Rich has trained extensively on how to get out of a mui tai clinch since then - trust me, it won’t be the same fight as before.[/quote]

So whats Rich gonna do? Stand up with him and box? Or try to submit him on the ground? Either way Silva is better in every department compaired to Rich. I mean I like Rich and all but come on. You dont think Silva is designing a game plan too?

You see Silva slip Marquardt’s hold and then take him down?

You see Silva submit Lutter after knee surgeory?

Rich doesnt have the talent. hes gonna get mangled AGAIN. Okami proved it when he nearly submitted Franklin.

Anderson by KO in the first!

I am looking forward to this fight (this and the Vera/Sylvia fight are the ONLY ones I’m looking forward to on this card), but its almost like I don’t even have to watch it, because we all know how it will go down.

Rich will make his entrance sporting a fresh new black eye. His expression will be mixed. Excited to fight in home town, and scared as hell to step one foot into the octagon. Then the bell will ring and within 3 minutes, Rich will by laying on his back flat on the canvas, as Silva does his little ‘Look at me, I’m playing the air-banjo’ dance to retain the belt.

[quote comment=”137131″][quote post=”3177″]Rich has trained extensively on how to get out of a mui tai clinch since then - trust me, it won’t be the same fight as before.[/quote]

So whats Rich gonna do? Stand up with him and box? Or try to submit him on the ground? Either way Silva is better in every department compaired to Rich. I mean I like Rich and all but come on. You dont think Silva is designing a game plan too?

You see Silva slip Marquardt’s hold and then take him down?

You see Silva submit Lutter after knee surgeory?

Rich doesnt have the talent. hes gonna get mangled AGAIN. Okami proved it when he nearly submitted Franklin.

Anderson by KO in the first![/quote]

Agreed on every count.

OH…. and lets not forget that Silva is TOTALLY in Franklins head. And Franklin has to perform in front of everyone he has ever known. Forget about it!

I always thought booking this fight in Cincinnati odd. Now, with UFC naming it “Hostile Territory,” that sort of exacerbates it. When has the UFC shown such accomodation to a challenger before, putting him in front of his home crowd for a title fight? Will Silva get to make his next title defense in Brazil? It’s probably just the UFC playing up to Cincinnati, which seems to be a town that really loves MMA, but it has an air of favoritism. I’ve always believed that UFC was unwilling to market Anderson Silva as aggressively as it does/ did with Hughes, Liddell, Franklin and Couture. I know Silva has limited English, but he’s an exciting fighter for neophyte MMA fans to latch onto and he’s bound to hold the belt for a long while.

[quote comment=”137157″]I always thought booking this fight in Cincinnati odd. Now, with UFC naming it “Hostile Territory,” that sort of exacerbates it. When has the UFC shown such accomodation to a challenger before, putting him in front of his home crowd for a title fight? Will Silva get to make his next title defense in Brazil? It’s probably just the UFC playing up to Cincinnati, which seems to be a town that really loves MMA, but it has an air of favoritism. I’ve always believed that UFC was unwilling to market Anderson Silva as aggressively as it does/ did with Hughes, Liddell, Franklin and Couture. I know Silva has limited English, but he’s an exciting fighter for neophyte MMA fans to latch onto and he’s bound to hold the belt for a long while.[/quote]

..You know why?????? Dana White didn’t make Anderson Silva..he made himself.. Franklin, Lidell, Hughes..are all his peeps..did you see how long he took to give Anderson Silva any props for dismantling his boy..like a little whisper at the post fight conference. The same with Rampage.. he wanted chuck to win..to be the face of UFC/MMA..what’s next when Anderson beats up Franklin..set up a match at Gurgel’s gym..like and what up with the poster..it doesn’t say Anderson Silva vs Rich Franklin part2.. why is that??

Its time for a UFC event in Brazil. The card should feature Anderson, Wanderlei, Shogun, Nog, and Gabriel. We should make it a U.S. vs. Brazil showdown.

Rich doesn’t deserve this rematch. He was destroyed by a defenseless franklin. I don’t agree with some (very little)
of the matchmaking but this is how it goes people

I think every champion right now is a class act, except maybe Sean Sherk. I could not ever imagne Franklin saying he would defend his title in a dominant opponents hometown that he already beat with a smile on his face. The ohio fans like to see knockouts and they are going to see Franklin get knocked out. A few month ago people thought Anderson Silva was weak on the ground but that does not seem to be the case anymore. I think standing or on the ground Franklin is a dead man. I hope the camera man shows Dana whites face after this fight.

[quote comment=”137192″]Rich doesn’t deserve this rematch. He was destroyed by a defenseless franklin. I don’t agree with some (very little)
of the matchmaking but this is how it goes people[/quote]
Rich was destroyed by Franklin???

THERES GOING TO BE A WHOLE LOT OF DISAPPOINTED FANS IN RICH’S HOMETOWN!!!!! Rich is going to get destroyed once again!! He doesnt stand a chance!

SORRY..HE DESTROYED A DEFENSELESS FRANKIN.

I DONT SEE FRANKLIN PULLING OUT A WIN, PLUS ANDERSON LOOKS SHARPER THAN EVER

Pretty much a must win for Rich… gonna need every once of help he can get.

Franklin needs weapons..like commando.. Rocket laucher gernades..glocks..Ak-47’s..to survive a fight with Silva.

I love it when the UFC pretty boys get their arses handed to them. Lidell, Franklin, Grove, Griffin, swick, Leben, and whoever else. Its awesome to see all TUF guys lose badly against a guy that has been training his whole life. Only one I really liked was Jardine and hes pretty much done after his second loss in a row with Lidell.

[quote post=”3177″]I always thought booking this fight in Cincinnati odd. Now, with UFC naming it “Hostile Territory,” that sort of exacerbates it. When has the UFC shown such accomodation to a challenger before, putting him in front of his home crowd for a title fight? Will Silva get to make his next title defense in Brazil? [/quote]

Now what would you say if GSP get’s hit rematch with Hughes or Serra for the title in Canada?

[quote post=”3177″]Its time for a UFC event in Brazil. The card should feature Anderson, Wanderlei, Shogun, Nog, and Gabriel. We should make it a U.S. vs. Brazil showdown. [/quote]

That is an event I want to see! And I think that it is definitely possible, they had a USA vs Canada PPV, so why not USA vs Brazil?

[quote post=”3177″]Only one I really liked was Jardine and hes pretty much done after his second loss in a row with Lidell.[/quote]

REALLY. I never heard anyone say that thier favorite fighter to come out of the TUF series is the Dean of Mean.

I bet $1 that GriffinFan05 will chime in here saying his favorite TUF fighter is Danny Abadi or possibly Kerry Schall…

Does anyone really think Franklin will be foolish enough to get caught up in that devastating clinch with Silva? UFC matches have always been about exploiting your opponents weakness. No doubt Silva did that big time last match. He is an amazing striker.But after watching the Silva/ Lutter fight I began to have have second thoughts about Silva’s defense. A weak and dehydrated Lutter easily took down and mounted Silva. And let’s face it, Lutter was never even a real contender. What do you think would happen if Franklin mounted Silva? I believe he would finish it. My prediction: Franklin by TKO.

At this point, I just feel bad for Franklin. He is almost like Tito, minus the being an asshole part. His time has passed and Anderson Silva will sit atop the middlewight standings for a while.

Also, I think its funny that Anderson Silva trains with the only other guy to defeat/knockout Franklin, Lyoto Machida. BlackHouse has Franklin’s #.

[quote comment=”137055″]After the first knee Rich had the most blank stare on his face. He was stuck in the clinch and I don’t see him doing much better this time. Would be cool if he did though, I don’t see anyone else beating Silva right now if he can’t. Maybe Hendo.[/quote]

u r absolutly correct

Rich was a great warrior and a class act. However, I don’t care if he fights Silva in his living room he still wont win. If I was rich I would b thrilled to be fighting against anyone in Cincy, except the spider. Silva broke Rich mentally in their first fight, and I dont think he has recovered yet. In my oppinion the UFC has put Rich in a terrible position. All fighting silva in cincy will do is add more pressure to go along with the doubts that Im sure he has in his head.

Rich Franklins the man, but the only man wit a chance of beating Silva right now is Hendo.

When silva beats Rich, he is gonna have to fight hENDO NEXT BECAUSE THERE IS NO ONE LEFT. Silva cleaned out the top of the division. The ufc must convince hendo to fight at 185, bring over Filho from the WEC, and get Dennis Kang from Bodog. If not middleweight championship fights wont b competitive. Hey Dana, u might have to throw ya ego to the side and sign Lindland if u want some competition for Silva if not he just gonna put up a lot of highlight real material in uncompetitive fights.

[quote comment=”137279″][quote post=”3177″]I always thought booking this fight in Cincinnati odd. Now, with UFC naming it “Hostile Territory,” that sort of exacerbates it. When has the UFC shown such accomodation to a challenger before, putting him in front of his home crowd for a title fight? Will Silva get to make his next title defense in Brazil? [/quote]

Now what would you say if GSP get’s hit rematch with Hughes or Serra for the title in Canada?

[quote post=”3177″]Its time for a UFC event in Brazil. The card should feature Anderson, Wanderlei, Shogun, Nog, and Gabriel. We should make it a U.S. vs. Brazil showdown. [/quote]

That is an event I want to see! And I think that it is definitely possible, they had a USA vs Canada PPV, so why not USA vs Brazil?

[quote post=”3177″]Only one I really liked was Jardine and hes pretty much done after his second loss in a row with Lidell.[/quote]

REALLY. I never heard anyone say that thier favorite fighter to come out of the TUF series is the Dean of Mean.

I bet $1 that GriffinFan05 will chime in here saying his favorite TUF fighter is Danny Abadi or possibly Kerry Schall…[/quote]
Danny Abbadi is a close friend of mine and the godfather of my son. He’s been stocking produce at a local supermarket. He’ll be back soon! Mark my word.

So Anderson Silva better watch his back!

[quote post=”3177″]Does anyone really think Franklin will be foolish enough to get caught up in that devastating clinch with Silva?[/quote]

That’s the thing about the clinch. Its nearly impossible to avoid the clinch. You can avoid a takedown by srawling, but what do you do to avoid the clinch, fall to the ground into guard??? Yeah, Rich can keep throwing jabs to try and keep his distance, but believe this, is Anderson wants to clinch Rich, he WILL.

[quote post=”3177″]At this point, I just feel bad for Franklin. He is almost like Tito, minus the being an asshole part. His time has passed [/quote]

This statement made me spit up my soda. But unfortnately, I’d have to argue. Rich’s time has NOT passed him by. He just got the beating of his life by Anderson Silva, and he still hasn’t fully recovered. To my knowledge, Rich was one of the original TRUELY well-rounded fighters in the UFC - someone that trains all aspects of MMA, not just one or a few.

Tito = 1-2 dimensional
Rich = mult-dimensional

[quote post=”3177″]Danny Abbadi is a close friend of mine and the godfather of my son. He’s been stocking produce at a local supermarket. He’ll be back soon! Mark my word. [/quote]

Please tell you son Humberto that I said ‘hello’

I hope Rich is ready because he has got his hands full right now

[quote comment=”137191″]Its time for a UFC event in Brazil. The card should feature Anderson, Wanderlei, Shogun, Nog, and Gabriel. We should make it a U.S. vs. Brazil showdown.[/quote]

Why would Dana White want to make the US look bad?

I love all the new psycho-analysists and hard asses out there saying RF is “scared”, “AS is in his head”, “I hate pretty boys”. How the hell does he have the record he has by being chicken little? RF very well may get beat, but it will be a hard fought win for AS.

I agree Franklin has his hands full with Silva. But every fighter I’ve ever thought was “unbeatable” has in fact been beaten. I would agree that if Fanklin cannot pull out a win against Silva then where does he go from here? Where does the division go?

its only a matter of time before henderson wins this belt to and there goes the second best fighter in the world

These two seem like good guys.

I’d like to see Franklin win his belt back, but more than anything, I’d love to see a great fight.

Is rich ready to have his face smashed in his hometown crowd?

That is a true champion mentality in Silva. He takes every challenge head on and going into Cinci to face Franklin is no different. I’m puzzled right now as to who can really give Silva a solid run. I thought Marquardt would post more of a challenge but I was wrong.

I really think that Franklin will surprise some people in this rematch. In terms of going all the way to a win, I wouldn’t go so far as to say that, but he will put on a strong performance. I’m a big fan of his and wish him the best in this one.

I hope Hughes shows the same courage and heart that Silva is showing. I want to see him agree to a rematch with GSP in Montreal if he wins the title over Serra.

Good-Morning Rich, yes the nightmare is over!!!!
Good-Night Silva, your nightmare just began!!!!…..hahahaha

Get the nose doctor ringside to fix Rich’s smashed face. Silva will wear this belt until Hendo comes down and competes….I like Rich a lot….but he doesn’t have nearly the same skills as Silva.

Griffin05 your full of it…..

Danny Abbadi is a close friend of mine and the godfather of my son. He’s been stocking produce at a local supermarket. He’ll be back soon! Mark my word.

Danny Abbadi is my sister’s best friends, mother’s, aunt’s, neighbor, and close praticing monk friend. He has not been at the local supermarket stocking product, but in your back yard packing fudge. Cheers!!

I don’t know why so many people think Silva is so indestructable. The Lutter fight definately showed that he can be controlled. Sure he destroyed Franklin last fight in the Thai clench, which it’s odd Rich didn’t know how to defend it, especially considering BJJ, and Muay Thai are like the two main techniques in MMA. Franklin is no fool he just made a mistake, and has the physical tools to dominate Silva EASILY if he uses them properly. I’d say Franklin will win if he gets his head straight. Unfortunately if Franklin wins I think he will quickly lose the title to Okami, who will be far more aggressive than their last fight.

[quote comment=”137993″]I don’t know why so many people think Silva is so indestructable. The Lutter fight definately showed that he can be controlled. Sure he destroyed Franklin last fight in the Thai clench, which it’s odd Rich didn’t know how to defend it, especially considering BJJ, and Muay Thai are like the two main techniques in MMA. Franklin is no fool he just made a mistake, and has the physical tools to dominate Silva EASILY if he uses them properly. I’d say Franklin will win if he gets his head straight. Unfortunately if Franklin wins I think he will quickly lose the title to Okami, who will be far more aggressive than their last fight.[/quote]

..You know the only english Silva needs to know..well when the ref brings them to the center of hte octagon..and when the ref says touch gloves..if Silva wants all he needs to say is ” I MUST BREAK YOU “..it’s a wrap..Rich will shitting in his American Fighter gear.. Franklin is shook.. Franklin needs more than Gurgel and Apollo Creed, hometown peeps, prays, Rich needs a f’n miracle..and brass knuckles under his hand wraps..there is bed waiting for him in the E.R.

[quote post=”3177″]Griffin05 your full of it…..
Danny Abbadi is a close friend of mine and the godfather of my son. He’s been stocking produce at a local supermarket. He’ll be back soon! Mark my word.
Danny Abbadi is my sister’s best friends, mother’s, aunt’s, neighbor, and close praticing monk friend. He has not been at the local supermarket stocking product, but in your back yard packing fudge. Cheers!! [/quote]

Wow, Mike Hunt, or should I say ‘My Cunt’, as in ‘Your Cunt’ since its your name, you need some serious help. I am sitting here fantasizing about a 3 some with my wife and Rachelle Leah, and you are fantasizing about Danny Abadi bending over another man in a back yard. I seriously think that you should have your sister’s best friends, mother’s, aunt’s, neighbor and close praticing monk have a serious talk with you. Celibacy will be your best bet for the rest of your life! Light it up!!!

I guarantee you this, when Rich Franklin defeats Anderson Silva, all you all will be like “I knew Rich would win! I am a huge Rich fan” and blah blah blah. Because almost all *bandwagon* MMA fans, when a fighter wins, they cheer. Look at Matt Serra for an example, everybody bashed me and said Serra is going to get killed, and he got BOOED when he stepped into the octagon. When he won, everybody cheered and everybody said “I told you Matt Serra would win.” When I for a fact bet money, and said it loud and proud that Serra one of my favorite all-time fighters would win.

Myself a huge Rich fan, am realistic, and I know Anderson Silva is dangerous, but every fighter is beatable. Travis Lutter if he would of made weight, way before hand, would of defeated Anderson Silva? Don’t even dare say I am wrong, Lutter manhandled Silva the first round then he gassed, and submitted.

People are acting like he put a submission hold on Lutter, no he made him tap via strikes, because Lutter was so out of shape he could not get out.

Anderson Silva’s ground game is not as good as people think. Nate Marquardt did not have 1 top 5 win against somebody in the division, Nate Marquardt never fought a big name like Anderson, and he also trains in Greg Jackson’s camp, and Jackson when it comes to the big time championship fights, his fighters under perform.

Rich Franklin is not better standing up than Anderson, but it could be On October 20th, Silva could slip up and get hit and dropped, just like any fight. Franklin is going to defeat Anderson, he has learned from his mistakes, call this an omerage to a GSP/HUGHES II.

The reason why it is in Cincinnati, because Cincinnati is a DIEHARD MMA TOWN mostly because of the likes of a Rich Franklin, Marcus Davis, Jorge Gurgel, Dustin Hazelett, Matt Hamill. There are so many local events around here it is insane. Cincinnati almost sold out the place… just by the FIGHT CLUB MEMEBERS ITSELF! (which I am included) Yes it is a little favoritism by Dana by having Rich Franklin in the headlining fight, but he knows for a fact, if he wants a true sellout, he will have Rich… and Rich fighting in a Title Shot.

Rich is going to win, and I think I am one of the few.. who believes so.

WAR FRANKLIN!
WAR CINCINNATI!

Hahaha!, yea right i wouldnt even bet a dollar on rich to win this rematch. And this is not like the Serra-GSP situation because we have already seen what happens to Rich when he gets in the octagon with Silva.

[quote post=”3177″]Franklin was sick in their first fight one of his trainers slipped it out in an interview a while ago.
It will be a good fight none the less, I will be there with my .22. Cause if Franklin starts losing, I will start shooting. [/quote]

Has anyone ever lost fair and square? isnt there always some excuse or another?

wow can you ask for anymore then this?
First Tim the goof is gonna get crushed then Rich is gonna get crushed. I’ll pay double to see those fights!

ok lets get something straight.so rich is in the gym training and studying the best ways to fighting and winning against anderson silva.rich is a good fighter no doubt about that,and he’s stuck so far up dana’s ass that he actually gets the rematch in his home town.some of you can say “it’s because it’s a good fighting town”.if you want to cloud your heads with that shit than fine,go ahead.but some of us see through the bullshit.so there should be no excuses for rich,he knows silva is strong in the clinch,he’s in his home town,he was champ for a long time,want’s to put on a good show for his people,desperate,adrenaline,bla, bla,bla.so that’s good for rich,and we’ll benefit to because we probably will get to see a good,exciting fight.however i’ve seen anderson silva fight in meca fc,cage rage from england where by the way he was an unbeatable middle weight champ,KOTC where he got disqualified for a kick to the head when he and his opponent were both down,and of course pride and now ULTIMATE fighting champ. silva has paid his dues and is used to fighting away from home,so let’s just give the man the credit he has worked for and earned and deserves! he knows that rich wants his title back,and is preparing for a war. you can bet your ass that he knows that this could be a much different fight with a much different rich. basically what i’m saying is that silva is also preparing for a war. so it’s not just what the former champ will do differently but what will the current champ do differently? i’m expecting a great fight but i still expect silva to be the champ when it’s all said and done!

[quote comment=”138137″]I guarantee you this, when Rich Franklin defeats Anderson Silva, all you all will be like “I knew Rich would win! I am a huge Rich fan” and blah blah blah. Because almost all *bandwagon* MMA fans, when a fighter wins, they cheer. Look at Matt Serra for an example, everybody bashed me and said Serra is going to get killed, and he got BOOED when he stepped into the octagon. When he won, everybody cheered and everybody said “I told you Matt Serra would win.” quote]

Who said ” I told you Matt Serra would win?” Who cheered for him after he won? Definitely not me that’s for sure. My opinion of GSP never changed after that fight and my opinion of Serra never changed either. I’m sure that goes for many on this site as well. Next time switch the “you all will be like” to “some of you will be like”

[quote comment=”138137″]I guarantee you this, when Rich Franklin defeats Anderson Silva, all you all will be like “I knew Rich would win! I am a huge Rich fan” and blah blah blah. Because almost all *bandwagon* MMA fans, when a fighter wins, they cheer. Look at Matt Serra for an example, everybody bashed me and said Serra is going to get killed, and he got BOOED when he stepped into the octagon. When he won, everybody cheered and everybody said “I told you Matt Serra would win.” When I for a fact bet money, and said it loud and proud that Serra one of my favorite all-time fighters would win.

Myself a huge Rich fan, am realistic, and I know Anderson Silva is dangerous, but every fighter is beatable. Travis Lutter if he would of made weight, way before hand, would of defeated Anderson Silva? Don’t even dare say I am wrong, Lutter manhandled Silva the first round then he gassed, and submitted.

People are acting like he put a submission hold on Lutter, no he made him tap via strikes, because Lutter was so out of shape he could not get out.

Anderson Silva’s ground game is not as good as people think. Nate Marquardt did not have 1 top 5 win against somebody in the division, Nate Marquardt never fought a big name like Anderson, and he also trains in Greg Jackson’s camp, and Jackson when it comes to the big time championship fights, his fighters under perform.

Rich Franklin is not better standing up than Anderson, but it could be On October 20th, Silva could slip up and get hit and dropped, just like any fight. Franklin is going to defeat Anderson, he has learned from his mistakes, call this an omerage to a GSP/HUGHES II.

The reason why it is in Cincinnati, because Cincinnati is a DIEHARD MMA TOWN mostly because of the likes of a Rich Franklin, Marcus Davis, Jorge Gurgel, Dustin Hazelett, Matt Hamill. There are so many local events around here it is insane. Cincinnati almost sold out the place… just by the FIGHT CLUB MEMEBERS ITSELF! (which I am included) Yes it is a little favoritism by Dana by having Rich Franklin in the headlining fight, but he knows for a fact, if he wants a true sellout, he will have Rich… and Rich fighting in a Title Shot.

Rich is going to win, and I think I am one of the few.. who believes so.

WAR FRANKLIN!
WAR CINCINNATI![/quote]
..Yo Lutter could of, should of, but didn’t..no what if scenarios play into the scope of things..If you win..you wooped the other guy..if you lose the other guy wooped you..end of story..” Oh if Lutter would of made weight..he just gassed..excuses, excuses.. Bottom on Silva vs Franklin..Rich is scared to death of this fight..Once in a clinch..flasshbacks..” the ambulance is waiting Rich.. Silva can be beat like anyone can..but this case..in unless Silva slips into a coma..get’s jumped before the fight..something crazy..Rich will get hurt in front of his peeps..

[quote comment=”138513″][quote comment=”138137″]I guarantee you this, when Rich Franklin defeats Anderson Silva, all you all will be like “I knew Rich would win! I am a huge Rich fan” and blah blah blah. Because almost all *bandwagon* MMA fans, when a fighter wins, they cheer. Look at Matt Serra for an example, everybody bashed me and said Serra is going to get killed, and he got BOOED when he stepped into the octagon. When he won, everybody cheered and everybody said “I told you Matt Serra would win.” When I for a fact bet money, and said it loud and proud that Serra one of my favorite all-time fighters would win.

Myself a huge Rich fan, am realistic, and I know Anderson Silva is dangerous, but every fighter is beatable. Travis Lutter if he would of made weight, way before hand, would of defeated Anderson Silva? Don’t even dare say I am wrong, Lutter manhandled Silva the first round then he gassed, and submitted.

People are acting like he put a submission hold on Lutter, no he made him tap via strikes, because Lutter was so out of shape he could not get out.

Anderson Silva’s ground game is not as good as people think. Nate Marquardt did not have 1 top 5 win against somebody in the division, Nate Marquardt never fought a big name like Anderson, and he also trains in Greg Jackson’s camp, and Jackson when it comes to the big time championship fights, his fighters under perform.

Rich Franklin is not better standing up than Anderson, but it could be On October 20th, Silva could slip up and get hit and dropped, just like any fight. Franklin is going to defeat Anderson, he has learned from his mistakes, call this an omerage to a GSP/HUGHES II.

The reason why it is in Cincinnati, because Cincinnati is a DIEHARD MMA TOWN mostly because of the likes of a Rich Franklin, Marcus Davis, Jorge Gurgel, Dustin Hazelett, Matt Hamill. There are so many local events around here it is insane. Cincinnati almost sold out the place… just by the FIGHT CLUB MEMEBERS ITSELF! (which I am included) Yes it is a little favoritism by Dana by having Rich Franklin in the headlining fight, but he knows for a fact, if he wants a true sellout, he will have Rich… and Rich fighting in a Title Shot.

Rich is going to win, and I think I am one of the few.. who believes so.

WAR FRANKLIN!
WAR CINCINNATI![/quote]
..Yo Lutter could of, should of, but didn’t..no what if scenarios play into the scope of things..If you win..you wooped the other guy..if you lose the other guy wooped you..end of story..” Oh if Lutter would of made weight..he just gassed..excuses, excuses.. Bottom on Silva vs Franklin..Rich is scared to death of this fight..Once in a clinch..flasshbacks..” the ambulance is waiting Rich.. Silva can be beat like anyone can..but this case..in unless Silva slips into a coma..get’s jumped before the fight..something crazy..Rich will get hurt in front of his peeps..[/quote]

Hm.. do you know Rich Franklin? I know for a fact he is not scared. How is it excuses? It is pure fact that Lutter manhandeled Silva, and Lutter was tired because he had to cut so much weight in so little time, it killed his body and made him gas. Are you a fighter? No. I know you are not because the plain fact is, if you were a fighter you would know what kind of toll that is on your body to lose that much weight in so little time. You act like Silva is untouchable. I guarantee you that you were not even an Anderson Silva fan before he defeated Chris Leben. I have followed Anderson Silva since Pride, and I knew for a fact he would be tough for Rich, and he beat Rich fair and square, Rich got sloppy with his punches and got caught in the clinch, plain and simple. Its not going to happen this time.

[quote post=”3177″]Franklin is going to defeat Anderson, he has learned from his mistakes, call this an omerage to a GSP/HUGHES II.[/quote]

You can NOT compare Franlin/Silva 1 to GSP/Hughes 1. GSP was beating Hughes in the first round until he made a rookie mistake at the end of round 1 and got cought in an arm bar. On the other hand, Franklin/Silva 1 was one of the worst beating a champ has ever taken. Rich did not mount 2 seconds of offense. He got annihilated. That was a very bad example to try and prove your point. GSP made a small mistage and learned. Franklin sraight up got his ass kicked by a fighter on a much higher level than himself.

Bullshit. GSP, Hughs, Franklin, and Liddel have all made big time mistakes. Having all been beaten down. I don’t see anyway Franklin won’t fight a much better fight second time around. We can talk all day long about how tough Silva is. I agree. Franklin is much stronger than Silva, more well rounded, and better conditioned. If Rich’s head is in this fight I think he will beat down Silva.

[quote post=”3177″]Bullshit. GSP, Hughs, Franklin, and Liddel have all made big time mistakes. Having all been beaten down. I don’t see anyway Franklin won’t fight a much better fight second time around. We can talk all day long about how tough Silva is. I agree. Franklin is much stronger than Silva, more well rounded, and better conditioned. If Rich’s head is in this fight I think he will beat down Silva. [/quote]

1) GSP was beaten down by Serra. They never fought again, so I don’t see your point…

2) Please tell me which Hughes fights you are referring to, and don’t bother saying Dennis Hallman.

3) Rich Franlin - Yes, Franklin has been BEATEN down, and has not been the same since. He has 2 losses. 1 to Machida, and he never had a rematch. And of course Silva. I didn’t see the Franklin/Silva part 2 fight yet, so I don’t know how you can say that he came out better in the second fight.

4) CHUCK LIDDELL - Rampage whoooped Chuck’s ass in PRIDE and pounded him into submission. Then they fought again and Rampage laid him out in a minute. What are you trying to prove here???
Maybe you are referring to Jeremy Horn that submitted Chuck back in the 90’s when Chuck was strictly a kickboxer with no takedown defense. Everyone knew that Horn didn’t have a chance against Liddell fighting in the rematch.

So instead of throwing out random names to try and prove a point, I recommend using EXAMPLES!

Keep the ringside doctor ready…Maybe a nose surgeon for Rick also…He’s gonna get OWNED AGAIN!!!

[quote comment=”138869″]Keep the ringside doctor ready…Maybe a nose surgeon for Rick also…He’s gonna get OWNED AGAIN!!![/quote]

Rick? as in Rick Hamilton? Remember that Octagon ring girl wanna be in that ring girl contest on Spike TV..”Rick Hamilton is my favorite fighter”..hahaha. I wanted the Ali girl to win anyway so it’s all good.

Rich Franklin can fight Anderson Silva ANYWHERE in the universe and he would stil lose.

Mike it looks like you got this thread under control, u pretty much said everything I had to say.

My point is every fighter will get beat. Houston Alexander ring a bell? Anything can and eventually does happen in the octagon. I just don’t see how Silva is an exeption. Is it really impossible that Silva could lose to Franklin?

silva is the most dominant middle weight in the world!could he lose a fight? well i guess anything is possible. but here in the real world of mma,i don’t see it happening anytime soon!certainly not by franklin. whether this is a stand up fight or goes to the ground,silva will dominant and win decisively.right now who in the middle weight division besides franklin even has a slight chance of defeating silva, NO ONE! and don’t give me this bullshit that hughes is thinking about stepping up,which i’ve heard.hughes has his hands full in his own division.the plastic surgen is going to love anderson silva for sending so much business his way. silva should get a commission,don’t you think? bottom line silva destroys franklin,once again,and know one wants to fight silva in the near future! once again silva takes his place as the most dominant middle weight on the planet!possibly of all time!

I fell bad for franklin. He has no chance against silva. It will be another first round domination unless rich beats anderson with a bat before the fight. Who can contend with silva? dan henderson would beat the breaks off silva and franklin. thats the real deal

i don’t want to take anything away from rich because he’s agood,well conditioned athelete. anything can happen in mma,we’ve all seen that.i don’t think rich has the tools to beat silva and so it makes me wonder who does? most likely hendo will move to 185 will he have a chance? i don’t really know. these greco roman wrestlers are good with their takedowns but could he hurt silva on the ground? again,i don’t know. who else in the ufc can give,the ever explosive silva a decent match?again i have no clue. certainly not matt hughes! that much i think i know!

I think that the funniest thing ever was that the UFC was promoting these small midwest town boys as the best MMA fighters in the world. Honestly you are kidding yourselves if you ever believed that Tim Sylvia, Matt Hughes and Rich Franklin were the best MMa guys in the WORLD. Let’s see. Tim Sylvia was owned for 5 rounds against a 43 year old Couture. Grnated though, Couture may be one of the smartest fighters in the game today. Matt hughes, the unstoppable middleweight was run over by Canadian George St. Pierre. George made Matt look like it was his first time in the Octagon. George lost to Serra but Serra clipped him with a few nice shots and capitalized. George did whatever the hell he wanted to with Hughes. Stuffed his takedowns, out boxed him, landed some awesome legs kicks, one of which took Matty boy off his feet. Silva!! Well i’ve been watching the UFC and Pride for years and i can honestly say that was one of the, if not the best asskicking i’ve ever seen. And to the “unstoppable” middleweight champion. Rich is a nice, quiet, religious guy and it is gonna hurt to see his nose end up on his cheek again because he is a decent guy but thats the only realistic outcome to this. The only questions left are these.

1) What will Danas expression be when his boy gets whooped again even after giving him the home town advantage?

2) Will Rich’s wife stay home this time so she doesn’t have to witness the execution of her husband.

3) how long will Silva stay champ for? I’m a huge Silva fan but i know somewhere along the line he’s gonna get whooped himself.

i meant to say Huges the unstoppable Welterweight.