Comments on: UFC 75: Mirko Cro Cop in the title picture with win over Cheick Kongo http://mmamania.com/2007/08/28/ufc-75-mirko-cro-cop-in-the-title-picture-with-win-over-cheick-kongo/ UFC news, event schedules, fight analysis, Octagon predictions, UFC fighters and MMA thoughts Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:45:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: joe http://mmamania.com/2007/08/28/ufc-75-mirko-cro-cop-in-the-title-picture-with-win-over-cheick-kongo/#comment-144058 joe Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:38:09 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/08/28/ufc-75-mirko-cro-cop-in-the-title-picture-with-win-over-cheick-kongo/#comment-144058 Cro cop is top three in the world and he will shut all the naysayers up! Cro cop is top three in the world and he will shut all the naysayers up!

]]> By: joe http://mmamania.com/2007/08/28/ufc-75-mirko-cro-cop-in-the-title-picture-with-win-over-cheick-kongo/#comment-144056 joe Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:36:07 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/08/28/ufc-75-mirko-cro-cop-in-the-title-picture-with-win-over-cheick-kongo/#comment-144056 [quote comment="144054"][quote comment="137248"][quote comment="137212"]I am calling it now, Chieck Kongo has 2 inches and 20 pounds of pure muscle on the one dimensional Cro Cop. When this fight does go to the ground, that extra muscle will make a big difference and even if it stays standing, Kongo has a nice jab. Combine that with his reach and this fight will be one hell of a war. Look for a second round KO. Kongo mid 2nd[/quote] Have you ever been right about these predictions? Or think that people would agree with you. Its not about Mirko being worthy enough to fight Randy after a win against Kongo, its about who else would be in line? Sylvia? Minotauro?[/quote][/quote] Cro cop will destroy kongo and the master race will lead the ufc to new heights! if dan henderson gets a title shot right away why wouldn't mirko get one he was the open weight champion before he got to the ufc that puts him right in line if u ask me! [quote comment=”144054″][quote comment=”137248″][quote comment=”137212″]I am calling it now, Chieck Kongo has 2 inches and 20 pounds of pure muscle on the one dimensional Cro Cop. When this fight does go to the ground, that extra muscle will make a big difference and even if it stays standing, Kongo has a nice jab. Combine that with his reach and this fight will be one hell of a war. Look for a second round KO.

Kongo mid 2nd[/quote]
Have you ever been right about these predictions? Or think that people would agree with you.

Its not about Mirko being worthy enough to fight Randy after a win against Kongo, its about who else would be in line? Sylvia? Minotauro?[/quote][/quote]
Cro cop will destroy kongo and the master race will lead the ufc to new heights! if dan henderson gets a title shot right away why wouldn’t mirko get one he was the open weight champion before he got to the ufc that puts him right in line if u ask me!

]]> By: joe http://mmamania.com/2007/08/28/ufc-75-mirko-cro-cop-in-the-title-picture-with-win-over-cheick-kongo/#comment-144054 joe Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:33:30 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/08/28/ufc-75-mirko-cro-cop-in-the-title-picture-with-win-over-cheick-kongo/#comment-144054 [quote comment="137248"][quote comment="137212"]I am calling it now, Chieck Kongo has 2 inches and 20 pounds of pure muscle on the one dimensional Cro Cop. When this fight does go to the ground, that extra muscle will make a big difference and even if it stays standing, Kongo has a nice jab. Combine that with his reach and this fight will be one hell of a war. Look for a second round KO. Kongo mid 2nd[/quote] Its not about Mirko being worthy enough to fight Randy after a win against Kongo, its about who else would be in line? Sylvia? Minotauro?[/quote] [quote comment=”137248″][quote comment=”137212″]I am calling it now, Chieck Kongo has 2 inches and 20 pounds of pure muscle on the one dimensional Cro Cop. When this fight does go to the ground, that extra muscle will make a big difference and even if it stays standing, Kongo has a nice jab. Combine that with his reach and this fight will be one hell of a war. Look for a second round KO.

Kongo mid 2nd[/quote]

Its not about Mirko being worthy enough to fight Randy after a win against Kongo, its about who else would be in line? Sylvia? Minotauro?[/quote]

]]> By: TTT http://mmamania.com/2007/08/28/ufc-75-mirko-cro-cop-in-the-title-picture-with-win-over-cheick-kongo/#comment-143478 TTT Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:29:22 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/08/28/ufc-75-mirko-cro-cop-in-the-title-picture-with-win-over-cheick-kongo/#comment-143478 [quote comment="137332"][quote post="3181"]Cro Cop has great takedown defense[/quote] He sure didn't show it against Gonzaga...[/quote] But he managed to take a fight to decision against Fedor... [quote comment=”137332″][quote post=”3181″]Cro Cop has great takedown defense[/quote]

He sure didn’t show it against Gonzaga…[/quote]

But he managed to take a fight to decision against Fedor…

]]> By: Royer http://mmamania.com/2007/08/28/ufc-75-mirko-cro-cop-in-the-title-picture-with-win-over-cheick-kongo/#comment-140456 Royer Sat, 01 Sep 2007 23:03:04 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/08/28/ufc-75-mirko-cro-cop-in-the-title-picture-with-win-over-cheick-kongo/#comment-140456 [quote post="3181"]Regardless, out of every single fighter in the UFC and unsigned PRIDE free agents, Cro Cop and Liddell are the 2 most one dimensional fighters. However, I still think that Chuck has better take down defense, AND he gets up after a takedown faster and easier than anyone I've ever seen. [/quote] he gets up from a takedown ha ha ah aahahha.....against who ..AGAINST WHO...CCRROOCOP IS NO PUNK [quote post=”3181″]Regardless, out of every single fighter in the UFC and unsigned PRIDE free agents, Cro Cop and Liddell are the 2 most one dimensional fighters.
However, I still think that Chuck has better take down defense, AND he gets up after a takedown faster and easier than anyone I’ve ever seen. [/quote]

he gets up from a takedown ha ha ah aahahha…..against who ..AGAINST WHO…CCRROOCOP IS NO PUNK

]]> By: ViolentMike http://mmamania.com/2007/08/28/ufc-75-mirko-cro-cop-in-the-title-picture-with-win-over-cheick-kongo/#comment-139579 ViolentMike Fri, 31 Aug 2007 14:05:25 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/08/28/ufc-75-mirko-cro-cop-in-the-title-picture-with-win-over-cheick-kongo/#comment-139579 Regardless, out of every single fighter in the UFC and unsigned PRIDE free agents, Cro Cop and Liddell are the 2 most one dimensional fighters. However, I still think that Chuck has better take down defense, AND he gets up after a takedown faster and easier than anyone I've ever seen. Regardless, out of every single fighter in the UFC and unsigned PRIDE free agents, Cro Cop and Liddell are the 2 most one dimensional fighters.

However, I still think that Chuck has better take down defense, AND he gets up after a takedown faster and easier than anyone I’ve ever seen.

]]> By: AaronW http://mmamania.com/2007/08/28/ufc-75-mirko-cro-cop-in-the-title-picture-with-win-over-cheick-kongo/#comment-138882 AaronW Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:49:40 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/08/28/ufc-75-mirko-cro-cop-in-the-title-picture-with-win-over-cheick-kongo/#comment-138882 [quote comment="138730"][quote post="3181"]Chuck Liddell. At least Cro-Cop kicks and punches. Chuck just backs away and throws counterpunches. No submissions either, at least Cro-Cop has won by rear naked choke in the last few years. For all his striking he managed to do pretty well on the ground against Fedor too. Still lost but didn't get wailed on as bad as Big Nog. [/quote] Chuck Liddell has MUCH MUCH MUCH better takedown defense than Mirko. Babalu would have something different to say if you think Chuck only punches. When Cro Cop gets taken down, which is basically at will if his opponent has half way decent take downs, to the ground, he looks like a retarded turtle on his back, he can't get up and has no idea where he is. The once a year that Chuck gets taken down, he just stands right back up, like NO OTHER fighter we have ever seen. The ONE exception to this being when Randy beat his ass.[/quote] In the many Pride events I've watched Cro-Cop had a solid sprawl and Rutten & Quadros would always comment on how solid his take down defense was. I think we have watched different events. If he was as bad as you describe him I'd figure him for a 8-12 record or something like that. Chuck used to kick, but as they said right as the last fight started, "Chuck hasn't used his kicks in a while". He's pretty lazy now, hopefully he starts using all his tools again. And his stand ups are great, due to the octagon cage. Heck all fighters in the octagon should train using the cage like that to their advantage, its a great cage tactic. Can't do that in a ring. [quote comment=”138730″][quote post=”3181″]Chuck Liddell. At least Cro-Cop kicks and punches. Chuck just backs away and throws counterpunches. No submissions either, at least Cro-Cop has won by rear naked choke in the last few years. For all his striking he managed to do pretty well on the ground against Fedor too. Still lost but didn’t get wailed on as bad as Big Nog. [/quote]

Chuck Liddell has MUCH MUCH MUCH better takedown defense than Mirko. Babalu would have something different to say if you think Chuck only punches. When Cro Cop gets taken down, which is basically at will if his opponent has half way decent take downs, to the ground, he looks like a retarded turtle on his back, he can’t get up and has no idea where he is.

The once a year that Chuck gets taken down, he just stands right back up, like NO OTHER fighter we have ever seen. The ONE exception to this being when Randy beat his ass.[/quote]

In the many Pride events I’ve watched Cro-Cop had a solid sprawl and Rutten & Quadros would always comment on how solid his take down defense was. I think we have watched different events. If he was as bad as you describe him I’d figure him for a 8-12 record or something like that.

Chuck used to kick, but as they said right as the last fight started, “Chuck hasn’t used his kicks in a while”. He’s pretty lazy now, hopefully he starts using all his tools again. And his stand ups are great, due to the octagon cage. Heck all fighters in the octagon should train using the cage like that to their advantage, its a great cage tactic. Can’t do that in a ring.

]]> By: Steve http://mmamania.com/2007/08/28/ufc-75-mirko-cro-cop-in-the-title-picture-with-win-over-cheick-kongo/#comment-138796 Steve Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:11:17 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/08/28/ufc-75-mirko-cro-cop-in-the-title-picture-with-win-over-cheick-kongo/#comment-138796 [quote comment="138730"][quote post="3181"]Chuck Liddell. At least Cro-Cop kicks and punches. Chuck just backs away and throws counterpunches. No submissions either, at least Cro-Cop has won by rear naked choke in the last few years. For all his striking he managed to do pretty well on the ground against Fedor too. Still lost but didn't get wailed on as bad as Big Nog. [/quote] Chuck Liddell has MUCH MUCH MUCH better takedown defense than Mirko. Babalu would have something different to say if you think Chuck only punches. When Cro Cop gets taken down, which is basically at will if his opponent has half way decent take downs, to the ground, he looks like a retarded turtle on his back, he can't get up and has no idea where he is. The once a year that Chuck gets taken down, he just stands right back up, like NO OTHER fighter we have ever seen. The ONE exception to this being when Randy beat his ass.[/quote] I have to disagree with that. Randy wasn't the only to get Chuck down. Rampage did the same to him in their first fight. Cro Cop's take defense is as good if not better than Chuck's. Cro Cop put on a takedown defense clinic when he fought Mark Coleman. Both of their's is excellent. I think the difference is the level of competition they have fought. IMO, Cro Cop has fought a higher level of fighters for the most part than Chuck has. I think if Chuck fought Fedor or Nogueira he would end up at some point on the ground too. It's so hard to really say who's is better. [quote comment=”138730″][quote post=”3181″]Chuck Liddell. At least Cro-Cop kicks and punches. Chuck just backs away and throws counterpunches. No submissions either, at least Cro-Cop has won by rear naked choke in the last few years. For all his striking he managed to do pretty well on the ground against Fedor too. Still lost but didn’t get wailed on as bad as Big Nog. [/quote]

Chuck Liddell has MUCH MUCH MUCH better takedown defense than Mirko. Babalu would have something different to say if you think Chuck only punches. When Cro Cop gets taken down, which is basically at will if his opponent has half way decent take downs, to the ground, he looks like a retarded turtle on his back, he can’t get up and has no idea where he is.

The once a year that Chuck gets taken down, he just stands right back up, like NO OTHER fighter we have ever seen. The ONE exception to this being when Randy beat his ass.[/quote]

I have to disagree with that. Randy wasn’t the only to get Chuck down. Rampage did the same to him in their first fight. Cro Cop’s take defense is as good if not better than Chuck’s. Cro Cop put on a takedown defense clinic when he fought Mark Coleman. Both of their’s is excellent. I think the difference is the level of competition they have fought. IMO, Cro Cop has fought a higher level of fighters for the most part than Chuck has. I think if Chuck fought Fedor or Nogueira he would end up at some point on the ground too. It’s so hard to really say who’s is better.

]]> By: ViolentMike http://mmamania.com/2007/08/28/ufc-75-mirko-cro-cop-in-the-title-picture-with-win-over-cheick-kongo/#comment-138730 ViolentMike Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:09:45 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/08/28/ufc-75-mirko-cro-cop-in-the-title-picture-with-win-over-cheick-kongo/#comment-138730 [quote post="3181"]Chuck Liddell. At least Cro-Cop kicks and punches. Chuck just backs away and throws counterpunches. No submissions either, at least Cro-Cop has won by rear naked choke in the last few years. For all his striking he managed to do pretty well on the ground against Fedor too. Still lost but didn't get wailed on as bad as Big Nog. [/quote] Chuck Liddell has MUCH MUCH MUCH better takedown defense than Mirko. Babalu would have something different to say if you think Chuck only punches. When Cro Cop gets taken down, which is basically at will if his opponent has half way decent take downs, to the ground, he looks like a retarded turtle on his back, he can't get up and has no idea where he is. The once a year that Chuck gets taken down, he just stands right back up, like NO OTHER fighter we have ever seen. The ONE exception to this being when Randy beat his ass. [quote post=”3181″]Chuck Liddell. At least Cro-Cop kicks and punches. Chuck just backs away and throws counterpunches. No submissions either, at least Cro-Cop has won by rear naked choke in the last few years. For all his striking he managed to do pretty well on the ground against Fedor too. Still lost but didn’t get wailed on as bad as Big Nog. [/quote]

Chuck Liddell has MUCH MUCH MUCH better takedown defense than Mirko. Babalu would have something different to say if you think Chuck only punches. When Cro Cop gets taken down, which is basically at will if his opponent has half way decent take downs, to the ground, he looks like a retarded turtle on his back, he can’t get up and has no idea where he is.

The once a year that Chuck gets taken down, he just stands right back up, like NO OTHER fighter we have ever seen. The ONE exception to this being when Randy beat his ass.

]]> By: Steve http://mmamania.com/2007/08/28/ufc-75-mirko-cro-cop-in-the-title-picture-with-win-over-cheick-kongo/#comment-138639 Steve Thu, 30 Aug 2007 14:56:00 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/08/28/ufc-75-mirko-cro-cop-in-the-title-picture-with-win-over-cheick-kongo/#comment-138639 Supposively, Fedor and his management are meeting today here in the US with the UFC to determine if he will sign with the UFC or not. The article is from Sherdog.com http://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=8793. A "final solution" is expected to be reached. Hopefully, we will all know if the World HW Champion will be coming to the Octagon very soon! If he does come, I predict he will get an immediate title shot against Randy, and assuming Cro Cop wins, he will get a rematch with Big Nog to determine who will be the number one contender to fight the winner of Randy/Fedor. Talk about dream fights! I'm crossing my fingers, Dana gets this deal done. Dana, give him what ever he f-ing wants!!! Supposively, Fedor and his management are meeting today here in the US with the UFC to determine if he will sign with the UFC or not. The article is from Sherdog.com http://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=8793. A “final solution” is expected to be reached. Hopefully, we will all know if the World HW Champion will be coming to the Octagon very soon!

If he does come, I predict he will get an immediate title shot against Randy, and assuming Cro Cop wins, he will get a rematch with Big Nog to determine who will be the number one contender to fight the winner of Randy/Fedor. Talk about dream fights! I’m crossing my fingers, Dana gets this deal done. Dana, give him what ever he f-ing wants!!!

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