bring back arlovski!

If he does come back, he’ll have to step it up and not be so timid anymore. The division is getting too talented to let any of that fly anymore. He’s got to somehow come back to being The Pitbull.

He needs to grow his hair back. he doesn’t even look like the “pitbull” anymore. plus he’ll save money on all that waxing.

The UFC is making a giant mistake by trying to play AA because I’ve done my research and this guy has done everything in his power to make sure that he doesn’t only return but he returns with a vengeance.

I believe that we will see a new Andre Arlovski in 2008, one that we have yet to see and that the HW division will wish they didn’t have to see. This AA will be faster, more well-rounded, and as vicious as a fierce pitbull.

As for those who believe that AA has a glass jaw, give me a break. I have seen a lot more top fighters get rocked easier and I’ve seen AA take A LOT of good punches without being phased whatsoever.

Joe Silva/Dana White, try and come to a compromise that makes both parties satisfied because you’ll be happy you did once you see the AA that I know we will see in 2008. If you don’t, then I will gladly support when he rapes the UFC for his next contract entension. Do good by those that have “overall” done good by you, and those notions will be returned ten-fold, guaranteed.

screw them over and go to K1 haha

[quote comment=”137084″]The UFC is making a giant mistake by trying to play AA because I’ve done my research and this guy has done everything in his power to make sure that he doesn’t only return but he returns with a vengeance.

I believe that we will see a new Andre Arlovski in 2008, one that we have yet to see and that the HW division will wish they didn’t have to see. This AA will be faster, more well-rounded, and as vicious as a fierce pitbull.

As for those who believe that AA has a glass jaw, give me a break. I have seen a lot more top fighters get rocked easier and I’ve seen AA take A LOT of good punches without being phased whatsoever.

Joe Silva/Dana White, try and come to a compromise that makes both parties satisfied because you’ll be happy you did once you see the AA that I know we will see in 2008. If you don’t, then I will gladly support when he rapes the UFC for his next contract entension. Do good by those that have “overall” done good by you, and those notions will be returned ten-fold, guaranteed.[/quote]

I couldn’t have said it any better man.

Dana White refuses to pay his fighters….

GO FIGURE

In the last two years Arlovski has had a 15-minute snoozefest win over Werdum, a sucker-punch KO win over Cruz, a god-awful 25-minute loss to Big Poopy and a KO loss to Big Poopy. Why exactly does he think he deserves to have Dana drive the Brinks truck to his front door?

I wish I knew what kind of money he was looking for. Realistically he should be making more that Mir did on his last fight. Maybe they could set something up where his show money isn’t much but his win money is big. I don’t know, it sucks because I think Arlovski can be good again.

I think a lot more fighters are fighting tentatively after they lose because they’re scared to slide farther down the rankings. It’s really a shame to not have Arlovski.

Oh well, so much for what the fans want to see… Come on Dana rape him for every last cent when your making millions…Sarcasm.

[quote comment=”137095″]In the last two years Arlovski has had a 15-minute snoozefest win over Werdum, a sucker-punch KO win over Cruz, a god-awful 25-minute loss to Big Poopy and a KO loss to Big Poopy. Why exactly does he think he deserves to have Dana drive the Brinks truck to his front door?[/quote]
I agree - his fights are either over in the first 15 seconds or they go to a complete snooze-fest decision. I can’t say as I blame White/Silva at all.

cuz hes an exciting fighter to watch a lot of fans know him hes still among thebest hws in the world and his fight with werdum wasnt excatly a snoozefest

It’s hard to imagine that Zuffa will be able to continue paying slave wages to the majority of their fighters for much longer. With the popularity of MMA, one of this big sport/entertainment corporations (AEG?) is going to start its own promotion before long, pay these guys a few extra bucks, and UFC is gonna be history.

PAY THE FIGHTERS!!!!! If UFC gets rid of arlovski then I will totally lose faith. Arlovski is going to rebound back. I gaurantee it! Dont dump one of the former champs.

[quote comment=”137095″]In the last two years Arlovski has had a 15-minute snoozefest win over Werdum, a sucker-punch KO win over Cruz, a god-awful 25-minute loss to Big Poopy and a KO loss to Big Poopy. Why exactly does he think he deserves to have Dana drive the Brinks truck to his front door?[/quote]

a suck-punch ko over cruz? that was far from a sucker-punch…at first i to thought it was but after watching it over arlovski waited until cruz went after his foot after Herb told them to start back up. Arlovski will be champ again!

I have mixed feelings about this. Yes, he’s 2-2 in his last 4 fights, but all that proves is that Tim Sylvia has his number now. Fight against Cruz was NOT a sucker punch. He waited a good 2 seconds after McCarthy restarted the fight. And his fight vs Werdum was equally Werdum’s fault as he refused to engage much more than AA.

In 2005, the UFC NEEDED AA. Now, not so much. However, he’s still a big name, and i think the UFC knows that one big, exciting win against vera/cro cop/big nog/gonzaga and all of a sudden he’ll become relevant again. If they let that happen without a contract extension, then his asking price goes way up. I think they’re just posturing and trying to suppress his market value by talking him down for the last year.

AA is the man, he carried the HW division for years, pay the man what he is due!

Well Big Nog recently had a 15 minute snoozefest against Heath Herring where he paid off the referees not to call the fight. I don’t see anyone complaining about that.

Arlovski would tear Nogueira apart.

I think that they should let Arlovski fight the last fight on his contract. If he puts on another “I’m afraid to get punched in the face” performance like he did against Sylvia and Werdum, then good riddance send him off to EliteXC, IFL, BoDog, or somewhere else where he can fight a couple of bums so he can try to get his confidence back. If you are scared to get punched in the face, fighting shouldn’t be your sport of choice. Go play horseshoes or tiddlywinks.

Currently, he doesn’t deserve to be in the Top 5 of the HW division. And honestly, I don’t want to order a PPV to see AA vs the Eddie Sanchez and Mike Whitehead’s of the world. When the UFC has all of these great fighters, they should not be wasting our time and money with stupid matches like CroCop vs Eddie Sanchez.

I got it. Have AA fight Gabe Gonzaga. That is a fight I’d like to see. If AA comes out like he’s been, then bye, bye. See you when you have the HEART to fight again!!!

Get Arlovski in the cage against Cro Cop… I wanna see that fight… I love both fighters… I just think it would be seriously entertaining

Arlovski sucks, he was big time when the UFC Hwt division was a joke, now he’s old news. Let him go to Bodog or something.

It’s not the fighter fault that the fight isn’t very exciting. The UFC allow too much holding/clinching w/o any action. Stand them up more, deduct pay like pride did. I really hope that Dana and Joe don’t start treating the fighters like crap since they are the biggest mma organization out there. They’re making alot of money, they can afford to pay their fighters now.

Andre Arlovski brings in good PPV numbers, he seems to be a crowd favorite, and he is marketable. Why wouldn’t they give him big money? And even so, give him a 3 fight contract extension and set him up against your big guns (Couture, Big Nog, Fedor possibly, Vera. If he wins, its great for the UFC because Arlovski just gains more clout and fans and money. If he loses, big deal. You’ve made great money from putting him up against another huge name in MMA and people have paid to see it. It seems like a win/win to give Arlovski what he wants, or something close to what he wants. Can anyone else feel me on this?

I agree, there is nothiong worse than a talented fighter ‘take it easy’. His new contract should pay him for what he has done, not what he could do.

The only way they should give him a fat contract is if it’s heavy on incentives. If he has any more of those debacles like he had against Werdum and the third Sylvia fight then he gets a minimal amount of money. If he does what he’s supposed to, which is actually look to engage his opponent and go for the finish, then he makes more.

To an extent, yes, he should be awarded for being a crowd favorite and pulling in a lot of fans. Hell, they seem to pay Tito for that. BUT, his past few fights have been lackluster and you can’t keep rewarding someone for mediocre work. Give him a two fight deal and see if he produces.

jeez if your gonna pay tito u might as well pay arlovski. the ufc dominates the mma world, it continues to grow, arlovski was a part of that big merge they should pay him. i don’t know why they would let him go, i still think he has fight in him.

[quote comment=”137107″]cuz hes an exciting fighter to watch a lot of fans know him hes still among thebest hws in the world and his fight with werdum wasnt excatly a snoozefest[/quote]

exactly,

im sure the UFC and Arlovski will come to a mutual agreement…. they need each other and we know it.
Arlovski needs to get focused and put it on the line.
his werdum fight was a fight where he was precautious and thats because he NEEDED that win. Now he NEEDS to show why he deserves to be with the elite

The UFC can afford to pay AA what he wants. If they pay Tito $400,000 go get a no contest with Rashad, can’t AA get what he wants? I know he needs to show that he is deserving of it but still.

[quote comment=”137138″]Well Big Nog recently had a 15 minute snoozefest against Heath Herring where he paid off the referees not to call the fight. I don’t see anyone complaining about that.

Arlovski would tear Nogueira apart.[/quote]

..I disagree..that was there Big Nog vs Heath part 3…part 1 being a war..a decision for Nog..part 2 the anacanda choke where he brought that submission back to fashion..So his first fight in the UFC( first timer’s)..and his 3rd fight with someone he knows he can dominate..he got caught with the high kick..he was out..at that moment..but I don’t blame the ref..It’s Heath’s fault for nor finishing..and not finsihing him in the beginning of the 2nd round.

Big Nog..will be a problem for AA..because he is a MMA BJJ fighter…not Cruz or Werdum.

HEATH COULD HAVE FINISHED IT- HE DIDN’T. WHAT A MORON DUE TO THE FACT THAT SINCE IN THE UFC HE HASN’T HAD A GREAT PERFORMANCE- THIS WOULD HAVE GIVEN HIM THE CREDIBILITY HE NEEDED. NOG HAS AN ADVANTAGE OVER ARLOVSKI ON THE FLOOR TRUE…. IT WOULD BE A GREAT FIGHT BUT I SEE AA WINNING A DECISION WIN…OR MAYBE EVEN A KNOCKOUT. NOG WAS A LITTLE SUSPECT IN THAT LAST FIGHT. HEATH IS DONE. WE ALL KNOW THAT

[quote comment=”137106″][quote comment=”137095″]In the last two years Arlovski has had a 15-minute snoozefest win over Werdum, a sucker-punch KO win over Cruz, a god-awful 25-minute loss to Big Poopy and a KO loss to Big Poopy. Why exactly does he think he deserves to have Dana drive the Brinks truck to his front door?[/quote]
I agree - his fights are either over in the first 15 seconds or they go to a complete snooze-fest decision. I can’t say as I blame White/Silva at all.[/quote]

Before the Werdum fight, the media and alot of people on here were saying Werdum is VERY dangerous, he is, he had just beat fedors young bro. anyone, going into a fight with Werdum is going to be very weiry and has to be clever. Arlovski put up as good as they come, he won without getting hurt, thats not easy.

If the UFC turn their back on Arlovski - F U K the UFC

Give him a 1 fight contract. If his performance still sucks send him to the WEC or let him join the IFL

[quote comment=”137119″]It’s hard to imagine that Zuffa will be able to continue paying slave wages to the majority of their fighters for much longer. With the popularity of MMA, one of this big sport/entertainment corporations (AEG?) is going to start its own promotion before long, pay these guys a few extra bucks, and UFC is gonna be history.[/quote]

I agree. With the take over of Pride, they basically created a monopoly where they can have that where else you gonna go attitude with fighters. All it’s going to take is Someone with Deep pokets willing to spend the money and It could easily start snatching up fighters.

This is just selfishness on both parties. On the UFC side, this decision is short sighted given that AA has shown loyalty, has been a good embassador, champ, and image for the organization. On AA’s side, I believe he is asking for too much because he has a lot of people on payroll. I believe in UFC all-access he was shown with “Team Pitbull” including his lawyer, publicist, trainers, manager, etc. These are all luxuries that AA doesn’t need. What he needs to do is stay in the best and fastest growing MMA organization and regain the belt.

[quote comment=”137081″]If he does come back, he’ll have to step it up and not be so timid anymore. The division is getting too talented to let any of that fly anymore. He’s got to somehow come back to being The Pitbull.[/quote]
EXACTLY…

You pro-AA guys are so off beat. He really hasnt done anything to make the common MMA fan want to watch his fights. He and Tim Sylvia are in the same boat where the intensity has gone down entirely too much to justify any sort of big $$. That Werdum fight was worse then many bodog chick fights. Dana got sick of 5 round decisions specifically after the AA-Sylvia fight for a reason, then dumped an assload of $$ into the division.

AA vs HH, let them both move on after their contracts are up.

Guys its not like were talking about a crazy deep Heavyweight division here. Look at what we have:

Randy, Gabriel, Cro Cop, Big Nog, HH, Tim Sylvia, AA, Breandon Vera, Fabricio

Thats not really that deep. Who else am I missing? F’n Eddie Sanchez??? Marcio Cruz???

I realize that there could be some guys who move up, but there could also be some guys who move down from HWT.

[quote post=”3178″]Arlovski would tear Nogueira apart.[/quote]

Have you seen Big Nog fight? He argueably has the greatest chin in the HISTORY of MMA. He has NEVER been knocked out and he has fought the who’s who of the HW division in PRIDE for ever. Even the OLD Arlovski would not tear Big Nog apart - Fedor wasn’t able to, so no way can the ‘current’ Arlovski - or any AA for that matter…

aa is bad as hell

[quote comment=”137132″]I have mixed feelings about this. Yes, he’s 2-2 in his last 4 fights, but all that proves is that Tim Sylvia has his number now. Fight against Cruz was NOT a sucker punch. He waited a good 2 seconds after McCarthy restarted the fight. And his fight vs Werdum was equally Werdum’s fault as he refused to engage much more than AA.

In 2005, the UFC NEEDED AA. Now, not so much. However, he’s still a big name, and i think the UFC knows that one big, exciting win against vera/cro cop/big nog/gonzaga and all of a sudden he’ll become relevant again. If they let that happen without a contract extension, then his asking price goes way up. I think they’re just posturing and trying to suppress his market value by talking him down for the last year.[/quote]

Yes, definitely. A big win for either AA or Mir would bring a sense of nostalgia almost. The energy would be awesome. Imagine how loud the stands would get if CroCop wins the title only to lose it to AA’s overhand right. THe place would go nuts.

[quote post=”3178″]aa is bad as hell [/quote]

I agree. AA sucks now.

Once again Dana and Joe Silvas arrogance is heart wrenching!! Why do they constantly wave it in peoples face na na na we are the UFC and we are better than you!! Screw the fans we do what we want around here!!

The fans want AA and FEDOR, the UFC wants TIM and LESNAR!!!!!

Customer Satisfaction is one of the first rules to running a successful bussiness but I guess after you make 200 mil a year you can do what you want!!!!

You guys really think fighters get paid poorly?

What do you guys want?…Todays boxing? Guys being paid millions and millions for a few (lousy) fights?

UFC is providing A LOT of fights for us to watch. Top tier people are making six figures in one fight. Plus, the endorsements probably pays well.

If they raise the fighters pay, then PPV costs you a whole lot more. Ultimately, you end up paying.

[quote comment=”137084″]The UFC is making a giant mistake by trying to play AA because I’ve done my research and this guy has done everything in his power to make sure that he doesn’t only return but he returns with a vengeance.

I believe that we will see a new Andre Arlovski in 2008, one that we have yet to see and that the HW division will wish they didn’t have to see. This AA will be faster, more well-rounded, and as vicious as a fierce pitbull.

As for those who believe that AA has a glass jaw, give me a break. I have seen a lot more top fighters get rocked easier and I’ve seen AA take A LOT of good punches without being phased whatsoever.

Joe Silva/Dana White, try and come to a compromise that makes both parties satisfied because you’ll be happy you did once you see the AA that I know we will see in 2008. If you don’t, then I will gladly support when he rapes the UFC for his next contract entension. Do good by those that have “overall” done good by you, and those notions will be returned ten-fold, guaranteed.[/quote]

What research could u possibly have done that would suggest that he will start fighting like a pitbull again, instead of the French poodle he was in jis last 4 fights.

Honestly, im such a big fan of his but he doesnt deserve a huge payday. In all sports, athletes tend to play better and harder in the year before their contract is up. AA knew is contract woulda been up, he shoulda went all out in his last fight or 2. Huge Paydays are earned not given. My advice to AA would b to sign a small 2 fight contract, get his stock up, and then look for the big payday.

UFC is no different then other sports: What have u done for us lately? I love the pitbull, but he’s gotta show me something before I would break the piggy bank for him. U dont deserve a contract based on what u did 2 years ago.

I hate the stingyness of the UFC, and I love the Pitbull, but in this instance I would have to side wit Joe Silva

[quote comment=”137274″][quote post=”3178″]Arlovski would tear Nogueira apart.[/quote]

Have you seen Big Nog fight? He argueably has the greatest chin in the HISTORY of MMA. He has NEVER been knocked out and he has fought the who’s who of the HW division in PRIDE for ever. Even the OLD Arlovski would not tear Big Nog apart - Fedor wasn’t able to, so no way can the ‘current’ Arlovski - or any AA for that matter…[/quote]

Violent Mike: Please educate these UFC-only Fans, Im in a bad mood today, and I dont feel like arguing with people who dont know any better.

And u may b right, Noguerra might really have the best chin in the game. Look at the beatdowns he suffered from Fedor, and he always made it to a decision.

[quote comment=”137294″]You guys really think fighters get paid poorly?

What do you guys want?…Todays boxing? Guys being paid millions and millions for a few (lousy) fights?

UFC is providing A LOT of fights for us to watch. Top tier people are making six figures in one fight. Plus, the endorsements probably pays well.

If they raise the fighters pay, then PPV costs you a whole lot more. Ultimately, you end up paying.[/quote]

No, the PPV goes up much the sales go way down. Raise it from 40 bucks you are going to lose sales and a lot of them.

They are making huge amounts of money on PPV sales, and hardly any is going to fighters. Guys in main event fights making 10-20 grand is pathetic.

[quote comment=”137213″]HEATH COULD HAVE FINISHED IT- HE DIDN’T. WHAT A MORON DUE TO THE FACT THAT SINCE IN THE UFC HE HASN’T HAD A GREAT PERFORMANCE- THIS WOULD HAVE GIVEN HIM THE CREDIBILITY HE NEEDED. NOG HAS AN ADVANTAGE OVER ARLOVSKI ON THE FLOOR TRUE…. IT WOULD BE A GREAT FIGHT BUT I SEE AA WINNING A DECISION WIN…OR MAYBE EVEN A KNOCKOUT. NOG WAS A LITTLE SUSPECT IN THAT LAST FIGHT. HEATH IS DONE. WE ALL KNOW THAT[/quote]

y WAS HE SUSPECT? cUZ HE TOOK A NASTY ROUNDHOUSE KICK TO THE FACE? and he still deserved the decision win that he was awarded.

Please dont try to tell me that randy took the kick to his face cuz he didnt, his arm was in the way(obviously since he broke his arm).

How can anyone knock Noguerra? I just dont understand it

[quote comment=”137274″][quote post=”3178″]Arlovski would tear Nogueira apart.[/quote]

Have you seen Big Nog fight? He argueably has the greatest chin in the HISTORY of MMA. He has NEVER been knocked out and he has fought the who’s who of the HW division in PRIDE for ever. Even the OLD Arlovski would not tear Big Nog apart - Fedor wasn’t able to, so no way can the ‘current’ Arlovski - or any AA for that matter…[/quote]
Big Nog does have a great chin but I’d have to go with Cabage for the best chin. That guy got teed of on by both AA and Sylvia and it didnt even look like he was hurt. Pretty sure you could take an aluminum bat to his head and he’d be unfased. But I do agree that is rediculous to say AA would tear Nog apart. AA does have some crazy knockout power so you can’t ever say he doesn’t have a chance but Nog is such a complete fighter with an awesome ground game so it would be a tough fight for AA.

I MUST SAY, THAT READING THRU THIS THREAD, EVERY SINGLE INTELLIGENT COMMENT I CAME ACROSS WAS WRITTEN BY JOHN.

KEEP UP THE GOOD COMMENTS, I ENJOY HAVING SOMEONE HERE THAT HAS A SIMILAR OPINION TO ME IN MOST CASES!

[quote post=”3178″]Big Nog does have a great chin but I’d have to go with Cabage for the best chin[/quote]

GSP4Prez, he is the EXACT reason that I included the word arguebly. I would say that Wesley Cabbage Correira and Big Nog have the 2 best chins in MMA history. If someone tries to argue that, they don’t have a clue.

I would like to see AA vs Nog, Cro Cop if he wins fight winner of Tim vs Vera, Conzaga can fight Barnett or some other good heavyweight they may have to sign Hunt, Coleman…

And Randy could fight Fedor. This way after all is said you’ll have a great champion and a few proven title contenders to choose from!!

I can’t believe the way they are treating AA like this. Joe Silva is an absolute idiot. AA is ready!

Regardless of his last two fights, Arlovski is still going to be one of the toughest if not the toughest challenge for any heavyweight. No one besides Sylvia has even remotely come close to beating him. Werdum looked like shit against him. I think they could squeeze in a Lesnar/Arlovski fight before 2008. What you guys think?

I think Arlovski should continue to be paid what he’s been getting paid, which is ample.

This makes me really sad. I became an mma fanatic because of AA. Like he said in his last fight “sorry no KO this time, guys”. Anything can happen in there, name me one fighter who puts on the greatest show in the world every single time. He has one of the biggest fan bases, is still very young and I believe the most athletic and talented heavyweight they have. They need to show him loyalty and respect. And comparing him to Frank Mir is a joke.

[quote comment=”137397″]I MUST SAY, THAT READING THRU THIS THREAD, EVERY SINGLE INTELLIGENT COMMENT I CAME ACROSS WAS WRITTEN BY JOHN.

KEEP UP THE GOOD COMMENTS, I ENJOY HAVING SOMEONE HERE THAT HAS A SIMILAR OPINION TO ME IN MOST CASES![/quote]

Feeling is mutual, I just hate uneducated people wit oppinions. If all someone knows is TUF winners and Matt Hughes, Rich Franklin, Randy, Big Tim, and Arlovski they should really do some research cuz there is a whole world of amazing fighters if not better, just as good as the above mentioned guys.

ViolentMike: I enjoy having your oppinions also, u r well educated in all the fighters from all the compant’s and u dont let your favoratism for a fighter cloud your judgment in arguments. I have my “favorite fighter” but Im still a realist and I look at fights objectively without using the MMath.
When I make a post mike, I look forward to hearing your oppinion.

It amazes me how everyone seems to feel fighters are “getting screwed” on the money end. Seriously? The people with a fan base get paid good bucks. The people who win get good money. I see no problem with what Dana is paying. These guys get endorsements, bonuses and who knows what else.

I think most professional athletes are way over paid, so like the fact that Dana is keeping it real. It is a lot harder for these guys to treat their fans like crap when it is made obvious to them that unless they draw the fans, they will not be getting good pay. I hope they keep AA, but if he is looking to strike it rich, he really should have put on a lot better performance in his last few fights.

There r also others on this site that offer educated, objective oppinion. Too u guys I say keep the [posts comming

I wish the others wit their “he’s my favorite fighter, so Im gonna argue that he can beat anyone” mentality. Try to look at fights on an individual basis, be realists and if u r unfamiliar wit the fighter thats being talked about, go on Daily Motion and catch a couple of his fights b4 saying something meaningless and uninformed

I really hope the Ufc doesn’t really mean “Where is he going to go”???

Let’s see…. K1 Hero’s could sign Arlovski, Fedor and Barnett and have a real heavyweight division. Arlovski has been a great investment. He has had his ups and downs, but then so has Randy Couture.

I think the UFC has more double standards than anything else.

lol arlovski is cornered by his own doing. you can always fight not to lose, but will you have your contract extended is the problem.

Arlovski is like old cheeese, they were good when they started out and then after a while you realize that they are shit and cant get better. Can this fucker he sucks. His last 3 fights have been boring as hell. so making him pay and send him to hell

I think it’s obvious AA still has a great fan base and he did win his last 2 fights against quality opponents. Putting AA on ice is a slap in the face to a lot of fans who helped the UFC grow. I dont know why they haven’t matched him up with Bog Nog in the next couple months. Surely the winner of that fight will be a very marketbale opponent for Randy. Who else at this point is a likely opponent for Big Nog?

We don’t know what he wants; we don’t know what the UFC is offering. Without knowing either, we have no idea who is being reasonable and who is not. Perhaps Andrei is demanding several million per fight. Perhaps the UFC is only offering fifty thousand per fight. We don’t know.

And good job on promoting this mindless namecalling, UFCMania. Saying he’s worth every penny? You don’t know how many pennies he’s asking for! Nobody is worth any amount of money.

I love watching Arlovski fight , he has alot of fans .. Anytime I got too a UFC event they ALWAYS have Arlovski at the autograph sessions , cause hes a fan favorite and too act like hes not is fin retarded on UFC’s part .. So what if he has couple of fights were boring , all of Kos’s fights are boring.

I agree with the last sentence of the article , I think hes worth every penny that he wants.

[quote post=”3178″]I MUST SAY, THAT READING THRU THIS THREAD, EVERY SINGLE INTELLIGENT COMMENT I CAME ACROSS WAS WRITTEN BY JOHN.
KEEP UP THE GOOD COMMENTS, I ENJOY HAVING SOMEONE HERE THAT HAS A SIMILAR OPINION TO ME IN MOST CASES![/quote]

[quote post=”3178″]Feeling is mutual, I just hate uneducated people wit oppinions. If all someone knows is TUF winners and Matt Hughes, Rich Franklin, Randy, Big Tim, and Arlovski they should really do some research cuz there is a whole world of amazing fighters if not better, just as good as the above mentioned guys.
ViolentMike: I enjoy having your oppinions also, u r well educated in all the fighters from all the compant’s and u dont let your favoratism for a fighter cloud your judgment in arguments. I have my “favorite fighter” but Im still a realist and I look at fights objectively without using the MMath.
When I make a post mike, I look forward to hearing your oppinion. [/quote]

Thanks for the props John, much appreciated! I was actually considering to stop posting on here last week due to all of the editing of my posts. But since I went on my ‘why do you edit all my comments’ rant, all has been good. I am the first to admit that I don’t know everything about MMA, but you don’t need to know EVERYTHING to make intelligent arguements.

And as far as people thinking that their favorite fighters are invincible, I hear you 100%. For example, I am a fan of Chris Leben, but I’m not on here saying “I KNOW Leben will KO Terry Martin in the 3rd minute of the 2nd round”

There are many fighters that I like, but I would have to say that my overall favorites, in order, are:

1) Nick Diaz
2) Dan Henderson
3) Jon Fitch
4) Forrest Griffin
5) Rampage
6) Jason Mayhem Miller
7) Chris Leben

TO: VIOLENTMIKE & JOHN :

So I am an underling wishing to speak the MMA GODS! My prayer is that the UFC signs FEDOR!! This is my sole purpose on these post because I feel that all other fights at this point may be entertaining but do little in the way of knowing who is the best right now.

You to have assumed the position that you know more than the rest of us. That’s cool I agree you probably know more than me. Do you think the single most important thing for the UFC and integrity of MMA is to sign FEDOR??

Cro Cop beat Barnett three times
Fedor beat Cro Cop
Fedor beat Nog

What am I missing?

I Love Bisping…… but I am so sick of all the bloggers telling me he is the best fighter walking on the earth.
Shogun
Rampage
Gomi (I love seeing how good Gomi’s striking is while he is retreating)
Diaz (a skilled bad ass, that always brings it… gotta love him)

Fedor (I know its like saying I like Micheal Jordan, but his fights r like poetry in motion)

I like sooo many fighters listing them would take me forever.

I HATE TITO ORTIZ……… nuff said

[quote comment=”137896″]TO: VIOLENTMIKE & JOHN :

So I am an underling wishing to speak the MMA GODS! My prayer is that the UFC signs FEDOR!! This is my sole purpose on these post because I feel that all other fights at this point may be entertaining but do little in the way of knowing who is the best right now.

You to have assumed the position that you know more than the rest of us. That’s cool I agree you probably know more than me. Do you think the single most important thing for the UFC and integrity of MMA is to sign FEDOR??

Cro Cop beat Barnett three times
Fedor beat Cro Cop
Fedor beat Nog

What am I missing?[/quote]

1st off I dont claim to know more than ne one. However I do take this site serious, It provides a flow of information for me to enjoy during my work hours. Y I enjoy violent Mikes thread is cuz many of u have this mentality about your favorite fighters. This mentality is that many bloggers will argue that their favorite fighter will beat anyone, which Is crap.

I love Allesio Sakara, but u would never hear me say that he will crush Rampage.

U kno how many times on this site someone tries to argue wit me that Bisping would beat anyone. I have a lot of knowledge about the UFC and about Pride, as for the other organizations my info is limited. I do not know everything, of course. But what I can tell u is if I dont know something, I dont throw out an oppinion just to throw one out. I either research, or keep my mouth closed until a thread comes up that I do know about.

In all my posts u can expect that when I write something, I can support all my claims. Also I always give an objective oppinion no matter if it involves me picking against one of my favorite fighters.

How can u say I claim to know everything, when in many how my posts, I include a questions. When I dont know something I ask a question and ask that all of u reply me so that I can learn more and more.

I dont understand y u r knocking me, I try not to disrespect anyone, and when I post something its an objective post, with answers that I can support. I dont come on this blog to flaunt my knowledge.

I simply come on this site to share my knowledge and I love hearing the oppinions oft he bloggers that I respect and that take it serious. I come on this site to learn, I rarely play around. U wanna hate me for it go ahead.

However I look forward to hearing reply’s from informed and objective bloggers, that arent on here to throw out insults or just to argue. Violent Mike, PhiQNY, and bloggers who take this serious that I havent mentioned… keep the good flow of Information comming!!!!

UFC Fan: To answer your sarcastic question, Yes the #1 priority of the UFC should be to sign Fedor especially since Randy is on top of his game and a fight vs. fedor could give us a clear cutt HW champion just like the Rampage vs. hendo fight will provide us with a unified LHW champ.

Fedor should be the top priority, but not the only priority.

The Heavyweight division is still missing:
Fedor
Barnett
Mark Hunt

LHW is missing:
Yoshida
Sokodjou
Arona
Antonio Rogerio Noguerra

Middle weight division (needs the most work):
Paulo Filho
Matt Lindland
Dennis Kang
Kazou Misaki
Mayhem

WW division is pretty solid:
Id like to c Mach sakurai’s signing made official
Carlos condit
Shinya akoi (who will b hard to get cuz I dont suspect that he wants to leave Japan)

Light weight division is good but missing a lot of pieces:
Takanori Gomi
Shinya Akoi
Mitsuhiro Ishida
Tatsuya Kawajiri all 4 of these fighters will be tough to pry away from Japan

Gilbert Melendez
Nick Diaz
Vitor “Shaolin” Ribiero

Fedor is the key piece, but the UFC needs to get all the rest of these fighters, so that they can battle it out in their divisions and we can really find out who the Champions of the WORLD really r

Arlovski will sign a deal and be in the UFC for some time to come end-o-story.

Sorry John, but I have been in meetings all day…

[quote post=”3178″]TO: VIOLENTMIKE & JOHN :
So I am an underling wishing to speak the MMA GODS! My prayer is that the UFC signs FEDOR!! This is my sole purpose on these post because I feel that all other fights at this point may be entertaining but do little in the way of knowing who is the best right now.
You to have assumed the position that you know more than the rest of us. That’s cool I agree you probably know more than me. Do you think the single most important thing for the UFC and integrity of MMA is to sign FEDOR??[/quote]

UFC Fan, please see my post immediately above yours, I say ” I am the first to admit that I don’t know everything about MMA, but you don’t need to know EVERYTHING to make intelligent arguements. ” Actually, I’ll quote if for you too.

As far as Fedor is concerned, YES he is the #1 free agent they should be going after. But should that be the UFC’s #1 priority overall, no way. And if Fedor wants to keep the integrity of MMA, then he should come fight in the best HW division out there. What’s more important to him, his legacy as the best MMA fighter ever, or the fact that he competed once a year in a Russion Sambo tournament. If I were him, I would want to be know as the first one.

[quote post=”3178″] I am the first to admit that I don’t know everything about MMA, but you don’t need to know EVERYTHING to make intelligent arguements. [/quote]

The main point of my post was to tell John that I do agree with most everything he says. The same goes for Kevin Kelly. Me and him often times share the same opinion - but not always. I don’t know about you guys, but I come to this site to learn about current events going on in MMA and intelligently discuss them with other fans, and even laugh at some of the posts. I have no problem with people coming here and posting after only watching one season of TUF, or only 1 fight night. That’s fine. Talk about what you know. But these people are the same ones that say the stupid stuff like “He’s my favorite fighter and he’s going to win because I say so. And it will be a first round KO”. C’mon, I don’t need to waste my time reading that. But if the uneducated fan comes to this site to learn more about MMA, please do so and feel free to ask questions. Just about anyone on this site would be happy to answer them.

I very often times ask questions on this site. Just about everyday as a matter of fact.

To be honest, when I first started coming to this site a year ago, there were a ton of posters that knew a LOT about MMA and organizations that I never heard of. (came to the site a year ago, but been watching UFC since the old days). When I don’t know a lot about a certain topic, I don’t act like I do and make outrageous claims. Many posts nowadays are along the lines of “2nd Post, WOOO HOOO.”, and “my mom has bigger boobs than yours”. Please find something better to do than hit refresh 150 times so you can type that. And because of all of these non-sense posts, this site has lost most of its most knowledgeable posters, including the one with the most knowledge, More_Than_UFC, a.k.a. MTU. And to be honest, I MISS HIS INFORMED POSTS.

[quote post=”3178″]1st off I dont claim to know more than ne one. However I do take this site serious, It provides a flow of information for me to enjoy during my work hours. Y I enjoy violent Mikes thread is cuz many of u have this mentality about your favorite fighters. This mentality is that many bloggers will argue that their favorite fighter will beat anyone, which Is crap.[/quote]

I agree 100% John. I never said I know more than a single person. I said, “I am the first to admit that I don’t know everything about MMA, but you don’t need to know EVERYTHING to make intelligent arguements.” There are many people on here that have very intelligent and well thought out posts with facts to back them up.

John, Kevin Kelly, PhilQNY, GriffinFan05, PW, c-war, Luppers, and even the new SourDiesel all have great posts that I look forward to coming to work and reading them.

I do not want to come off as a “MMA-Snob” because I am anything but, but there are several good posters that are getting tired of the direction some of these comments are going…

EVERYONE that contibutes to UFCmania.com please keep it up!!!