“While not confirmed, UFC officials after the fight were talking about another Brazilian, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, the former Pride heavyeight champion, as Couture’s next opponent…. Couture, who rarely asks for a specific opponent, wants a match with Fedor Emelianenko, generally considered the world’s best heavyweight. Negotiations between Dana White and Emelianenko’s representatives have gone hot and cold over the past two months, but they have another meeting scheduled for the next week.”
– Dave Meltzer, contributing to FOXSports.com, reports on what might be next for UFC Heavyweight Champion Randy Couture after his third-round technical knockout of Gabriel Gonzaga last night at UFC 74: “Respect.”
August 26th, 2007
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They removed all of his highlights; so God help them if they don’t placate the masses by letting him do his Sambo once a year, and SIGN HIM!
i was never more impressed with randy couture than i was last night, that dude is amazing, bring on fedor, let randy be the underdog again, we all know he cant lose when hes the underdog…
this will be an awesome fight. Im not saying Randy will win, but I had said before I believe he has the best chance of any heavyweight of being the first man to defeat the King of MMA. This will be the greatest fight in MMA history! And nobody could discredit Couture even if he does loose, cuz well…its Fedor, and everybody looses to Fedor!
i will never ever pick against Randy again. this is the first and last time i have. Randy will win this fight
I really want to see Big Nog fight one more person before he fights Couture, he had a lackluster debut and I think he should fight Brandon Vera or Tim Slyvia.
I would much rather see Fedor/Randy while it can still happen.
Couture is the smartest fighter in the world. No one has a better game plan going into a fight than Couture. Couture looked amazing against Gonzaga. The kick he took to the head; I was like “oh no (thinking about how Cro Cop got knocked out)”, but Couture took it and then went to clench again with Gonzaga. Couture looked big last night, too. I think Couture weighed in at 217.5 pounds against Sylvia and for this fight he weighed in at 228.5 pounds. When Couture is ready to retire; he will retire the UFC Heavyweght Champion.
Here’s to UFC 79: UFC vs. Pride - Dual Main events: Chuck “The Iceman” Liddell vs. Wanderlei “The Axe Murderer” Silva. And for the Undisputed Heavyweight Championship of the World! - Randy “The Natural Couture” vs. Fedor “The Russian Experiment” Emelianenko! December 29, 2007, from the Mandalay Bay events center…Live on Spike TV!!!
Ha Ha I wish…that would be worth every single penny of $40 dollars and would go down as the greatest UFC event of all time.
I’ve been long time fans of Chuck and Randy and only within the past few months got really familiar with Pride. I absolutely love The Axe Murderer and I have never been in awe watching someone fight as I am when I watch Fedor. The first one is too close to call, but I think I see The Axe Murderer (how cool is his nickname btw?). If anyone has a chance to beat Fedor I think its Randy but I do believe its a huge long shot. Its a borderline no brainer to pick Fedor, but damn who plays the underdog role better than Couture? These are dream fights and Dana better be sippin Russian Vodka in Moscow cause we’re about to see the main event of Rocky IV in real life if he does.
Heck, while I’m here putting together this dream card how bout a little Shogun for the LHW Championship, and a Cro Cop/Gonzaga rematch or Cro Cop/Big Nog or Cro Cop/Pitbull match. Just wanna see someone’s face meet Cro Cop’s left foot in the Octagon!
I love football and watch College and NFL religiously every year, but this would trump the BCS NC and the Super Bowl combined!
Let’s not get all worked up over Randy Couture. He beat Gonzaga big deal- we all now know the fight with Cro Cop was a fluke, and Gonzaga is not a champion. Couture also beat Sylvia- another non champion (I am in better shape then Tim Sylvia and I haven’t worked out in 2 years. Now we are talking about Fedor the greatest fighter on the planet. Couture will at best survive five rounds and lose by unanamous decision. Fedor wil walk right through Couture, Liddel, Cro-Cop again, Big Nog, Silva, and whoever else- Fedor is an old school russian ass kicker- the guy chops wood all day for his workout routine.
i love randy couture, that was an amazing game plan, randy beat a huge man. i have the utmost respect for captain america, but if their is ever a chance that fedor and couture fight, fedor too, will have a great game plan, he will not gas and the pace that he sets is about two times as fast as couture. i would love to see this fight. maybe i am stupid but until last night, i really never held couture at the same level as fedor, i do now. the only question i have now, is was gonzaga cro cop a fluke? did anyone notice gonzaga get wobbled by a jab. gonzaga’s chin looked a bit suspect, and cro cop never had a chance to test it, i mean being knocked out. what a fight last night!
JAROD:
I don’t think the GG/Cro Cop fight was a fluke at all. Whether people want to hear it or not, Cro Cop is pretty one-dimensional. GG had a great game plan for Cro Cop and was able to execute it perfectly.
Absorb a kick, get the takedown, ground and pound…
We saw Couture execute a similarly well-planned gameplan last night: Push GG in the fence via clinch and use his greco and excellent dirty boxing skills to DOMINATE GG. (Breaking GG’s nose on the takedown didn’t hurt either.)
I wonder if GG had EVER been picked up and slammed like that before? Even if he hadn’t broken his nose, that slam did some mental damage. Have you seen the pictures? His eyes are wide open like WTF?
[quote comment=”135229″]JAROD:
I don’t think the GG/Cro Cop fight was a fluke at all. Whether people want to hear it or not, Cro Cop is pretty one-dimensional. GG had a great game plan for Cro Cop and was able to execute it perfectly.
Absorb a kick, get the takedown, ground and pound…
We saw Couture execute a similarly well-planned gameplan last night: Push GG in the fence via clinch and use his greco and excellent dirty boxing skills to DOMINATE GG. (Breaking GG’s nose on the takedown didn’t hurt either.)
I wonder if GG had EVER been picked up and slammed like that before? Even if he hadn’t broken his nose, that slam did some mental damage. Have you seen the pictures? His eyes are wide open like WTF?[/quote]
yea when i was watching the fight i spilled my beer when he picked up gonzaga up and slammed him. i with you i don’t think gonzaga thought that would happen, as well as myself. another factor was when couture took that head kick, i think that killed gonzaga mentally, because shorty after he pretty much gave up.
Randy seems to be getting better and better, I’ve never seen him look so buff and his boxing is better yet, go randy be the first to school fedor.
Dana is not looking out for the UFC or the UFC fans. Fedor just wants to do Sambo once a year. Can anyone tell me what the problem is whith that. Randy and Fedor will be one of the biggest if not the biggest fight in mma history. They need to sign Fedor and have him and Randy fight at the Rosegarden in Randy’s home town. The crowd would go nuts and Randy would walk away with the win. Nothing against Fedor, but Randy is on fire.
[quote comment=”135206″]I really want to see Big Nog fight one more person before he fights Couture, he had a lackluster debut and I think he should fight Brandon Vera or Tim Slyvia.
I would much rather see Fedor/Randy while it can still happen.[/quote]
Arlovski wouldnt be a bad opponent for Noguerra. Randy looked so amazing, that might have been the best he has ever looked, but its not gonna last forever. Bring on Fedor NOW while Randy is still at the top of his game, he might not beat Fedor, but It would be the biggest fight in UFC history, a much bigger draw then Liddell vs. Wanderlei(at this point in their careers)
Maybe now all the Bandwagon fans will understand y a fighter who has fought no one(Gonzaga), although impressive, just isnt ready to fight a legend like couture. For everyone who tried to tell me Gonzaga is too big, is Ju Jitsu is too good, he hits to hard, for Randy. Ya Boy Gonzaga got an old fashion Captain America beatdown. So lets remember this lesson the next time a tough up an comming fighter thinks that he is ready to try an win a 5 rd title fight in the UFC. Randy beat the piss out of ol Gonzaga. Randy dominated as I predicted, however I was impressed wit Gonzaga, the dude is tough, he didnt gas like he always does. GG scared me for a moment when he landed that roudhouse kick in the 3rd round, impressively Randy just ate the kick n blew thrue him. Thanks to Randy and GSP, for making me $800 richer!
The only bad fight of the night was Kendall Groves lackluster, unispiring performance. I thought he would have looked better then ever since he has been training wit Randy, however he got dropped by a quick roundhouse. Kendalls got potential, stop get high n being a thug, dedicate himself more…. cuz that was his worste performance ever (win or loose)
Props to Batman, He fought hard although he seemed to gas, just like his teacher hermes franca did. When will that camp start to value the importance of conditioning?
Alberto Crane displayed beautiful grappling, while getting his face pounded.
Is it me or is Tito Ortiz’s face and head getting bigger and Bigger. Wow that dude is ugly! Dana better not Bring that meathead Brock lesner to the UFC. Lesner and sherk look like Dr. Evil and minnie me!
Randy is a freak of nature.. But, so isn’t Fedor. This is one fight Randy won’t win. I’ll root for him out of respect, but Fedor is not going to get pushed around l;ike Gonzaga. BJJ is great, if you’re on the ground. Gonzaga was out wrestled on the feet. Fedor’s wrestling/sambo is what would be the difference against Randy.
I hope we dont have a bunch of positived steroid tests after this event. I kno it would never happen, but could u imagine how terrible it would be if Randy tested positive for roids after last nights fight. He looked better then ever that would be heartbreaking, thankfully rAND’S THE MAN AND TGHAT WOU,LD NEVER HAPPEN. aNYONE NOTICE HOW MUCH rAndy’s striking is improving with each fight. That guy is amazing, and he is a great roll model for all up and comming fighter.
I thought a say chuck without his Mohawk. Did he really shave it off or am I going crazy?
I think Randy breaking GG’s nose was the major reason that he won that fight. I don’t think it was his gameplan. He should lose to Fedor, but if anyone could find a kink to exploit it would be Randy. Randy has all the respect that I can give.
How can anyone say Randy would beat Fedor? That clinch and smothering isn’t really going to work on the world-class Sambo and striking that Fedor brings to the table. You can act like Couture’s unbeatable as an underdog, but a) he wasn’t an underdog against Gonzaga, and b) the odds are a little bit too steep for this matchup. Fedor’s striking is better, and his conditioning is at least AS GOOD as Couture’s. His ground game is better than anyone else in the HW division, with the exception of Nogueira. He proved that with submissions over the top guys in that area (Coleman, Randleman, Lindland, Fujita). Wrestlers are water on the rocks compared to Fedor. He’s the next generation of fighters, a perfect representation of versatility and conditioning.
It’s going to take a younger fighter to beat him, and the only ones in sight that have a chance to do it right now are Nogueira and Barnett.
My impression is that Couture and Fedor are equally matched, by styles. Both enjoy wrestling, and as you are seeing Couture is a formitable striker, not overpowering, but can give you noodle legs. My opinion is that Fedor would have a fight on his hands, as well as Couture, this one could go either way in a moment, don’t blink!
[quote comment=”135280″]How can anyone say Randy would beat Fedor? That clinch and smothering isn’t really going to work on the world-class Sambo and striking that Fedor brings to the table.[/quote]
Don’t count out Randy in this fight. Remember that the UFC has the cage, which Randy uses to pin his opponent against. We havent seen what Fedor can do with the cage yet. RC might be able to use a similar strategy against Fedor that we saw last night, use the cage to set up the takedown and GnP. Im not saying Randy will win, but even if he looses, it will be the fight of Fedors life.
[quote comment=”135280″]It’s going to take a younger fighter to beat him, and the only ones in sight that have a chance to do it right now are Nogueira and Barnett.[/quote]
Nog has already fought Fedor 3 times and lost. I really don’t want to see that fight again. If Randy fights Nog and wins, he definitely should be ranked #2 in the world, behind Fedor. Right now Id rank Couture as #3 behind Nog, but only because Nog and Randy have not fought yet.
[quote comment=”135241″]Dana is not looking out for the UFC or the UFC fans. Fedor just wants to do Sambo once a year. Can anyone tell me what the problem is whith that. Randy and Fedor will be one of the biggest if not the biggest fight in mma history. They need to sign Fedor and have him and Randy fight at the Rosegarden in Randy’s home town. The crowd would go nuts and Randy would walk away with the win. Nothing against Fedor, but Randy is on fire.[/quote]
The problem is that the ufc will be paying out ridiculous money to the top fighter on the planet whose undefeated in Fedor.BUT if he goes to fight sambo once a year and loses in any type of martial arts venue his stock plummets and ufc is directly affected he is not as big as a draw as he was when he was undefeated. Also if he is under contract at the ufc and has signed on to fight 4 fights in a certain time period and gets hurt in sambo and can’t fight they stand to lose big bucks again. It’s not the contract they lose big on it’s the ppv revenue’s and the money he would bring in headlining events. Yes you have to please the fans no doubt but you have to think logically and from there perspective to. Those are the only obstacles in the way of finalizing a deal. I wouldn’t want to risk the health of my top fighter either and lose millions because I just really want a fighter on my roster. Fedor and his camp knows there is nowhere else that has comparible competition to the ufc and he will eventually have to come here if he wants to remain the best and fight the best. Some might look at it as it’s one fight a year in sambo just let him do it but you could also say “it’s one sambo fight a year give it up who cares” the only one who wants him to compete in sambo is the crazy ass prime minister over there.
[quote comment=”135280″]How can anyone say Randy would beat Fedor? That clinch and smothering isn’t really going to work on the world-class Sambo and striking that Fedor brings to the table. You can act like Couture’s unbeatable as an underdog, but a) he wasn’t an underdog against Gonzaga, and b) the odds are a little bit too steep for this matchup. Fedor’s striking is better, and his conditioning is at least AS GOOD as Couture’s. His ground game is better than anyone else in the HW division, with the exception of Nogueira. He proved that with submissions over the top guys in that area (Coleman, Randleman, Lindland, Fujita). Wrestlers are water on the rocks compared to Fedor. He’s the next generation of fighters, a perfect representation of versatility and conditioning.
It’s going to take a younger fighter to beat him, and the only ones in sight that have a chance to do it right now are Nogueira and Barnett.[/quote]a)Randy was an underdog. Check any sportsbook and you will see that Randy was the underdog and b)Fedor is amazing but he’s not as unbeatable as everyone makes him out to be. We’ve already seen some of these “dominate” guys like Cro Cop who a lot of people said would destroy everyone in the UFC are not as dominate as they were made out to be. Not saying those guys aren’t great fighters just that a lot of there fights came against one dimensional fighters in Pride and a lot of the UFC fighters were very underated. I would certainly say Fedor would be the favorite over Randy but you can’t count Randy out vs anyone.
This would be the greatest fight ever. EVER!
I agree. A Randy and Fedor fight could easily go either way. I still don’t buy all of Fedor’s HYPE!Yes that’s right I believe Fedor is overrated. It’s the typical highschool story of a kid from a small town who excells in sports (Fedor), who comes to the big city (UFC) to play and soon realizes his old opponents were nothing compared to what he’s now up against. Congrats to Fedor he is a great fighter, but in the UFC Fedor’s top opponents haven’t shown they are better than average (CC, Fat Nog). After watching Crop Cop, and Nog in the UFC I’m amazed Fedor didn’t finish them both every time they fought within a few mins if he is really that good. CC, and Nog are mediocre now, and soon we will all find out that Fedor is also mediocre…I recommend Fedor continues using Sambo as an excuse not to come to the UFC so the truth about how average he really is doesn’t show, and ruin his HYPE.
Oh and one more thing. At this point I wish Dana White would just offed Fedor a mediocre deal, and say “take it or leave it you have a week to decide, and if you decline we will never contact you again.”
[quote comment=”135275″]I think Randy breaking GG’s nose was the major reason that he won that fight. I don’t think it was his gameplan. He should lose to Fedor, but if anyone could find a kink to exploit it would be Randy. Randy has all the respect that I can give.[/quote]
Ummm, how did Randy break GG’s nose? Oh, it was when he picked 250lb GG off his feet and slammed him, haha.
Yes, the broken nose played a major role, but GG was still striking and kicking just fine. (Case in point, Joe Stevenson broke his JAW in the 1st round and went on to win a 3rd decision.)
Make no mistake about it, Randy’s gameplan was perfect for shutting GG down.
[quote comment=”135319″]I agree. A Randy and Fedor fight could easily go either way. I still don’t buy all of Fedor’s HYPE!Yes that’s right I believe Fedor is overrated. It’s the typical highschool story of a kid from a small town who excells in sports (Fedor), who comes to the big city (UFC) to play and soon realizes his old opponents were nothing compared to what he’s now up against. Congrats to Fedor he is a great fighter, but in the UFC Fedor’s top opponents haven’t shown they are better than average (CC, Fat Nog). After watching Crop Cop, and Nog in the UFC I’m amazed Fedor didn’t finish them both every time they fought within a few mins if he is really that good. CC, and Nog are mediocre now, and soon we will all find out that Fedor is also mediocre…I recommend Fedor continues using Sambo as an excuse not to come to the UFC so the truth about how average he really is doesn’t show, and ruin his HYPE.[/quote]
You are an idiot! Pride fighters are way more talented than the UFC fighters. Look at the Middleweight Champion- Silva (Pride) and the Light Heavyweight Champion Rampage (Pride). It won’t be long until the Pride fighters take the belt from Randy, either Big Nog, Fedor, or Cro Cop will easily take the belt. Sylvia and Gonzaga are not champion matrial. Gonzaga beating Cro Cop was just a fluke if they were to fight ten more times Cro Cop would win everyone.
[quote comment=”135326″][quote comment=”135275″]I think Randy breaking GG’s nose was the major reason that he won that fight. I don’t think it was his gameplan. He should lose to Fedor, but if anyone could find a kink to exploit it would be Randy. Randy has all the respect that I can give.[/quote]
Ummm, how did Randy break GG’s nose? Oh, it was when he picked 250lb GG off his feet and slammed him, haha.
Yes, the broken nose played a major role, but GG was still striking and kicking just fine. (Case in point, Joe Stevenson broke his JAW in the 1st round and went on to win a 3rd decision.)
Make no mistake about it, Randy’s gameplan was perfect for shutting GG down.[/quote]
also Gsp had a broken nose and then dominated round 2 and 3, obvious talent and heart.
[quote comment=”135229″]JAROD:
I don’t think the GG/Cro Cop fight was a fluke at all. Whether people want to hear it or not, Cro Cop is pretty one-dimensional. GG had a great game plan for Cro Cop and was able to execute it perfectly.
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I disagree that Cro Cop is only one-dimensional. I’ve seen him ground and pound people out just as much as he has kicked their heads in. I do believe his strengths are really in his stand-up, his one-dimension, but thats where he got knocked out! In his own one-dimensional realm. I honestly just think he didn’t expect a high kick from such a body as Gonzaga’s and he was thinking he was more of a BJJ guy trying to take him to the ground. Mix that with some new first-fight jitters being in the new ring and country and a loss was iminent. He’ll do better next time around and I think he’s learned to expect the unexpected.
There is a rumor circulating that Heath Herring said Fedor IS coming. Fedor will be fighting either Cro Cop or Heath as his debut in the UFC.
Couture is amazing! now the talkin starts again. so RC had no chance against Poopie and then 5 rounds of domination, no chance again GG and 3 rounds of domination. Now the talk about Fedor, no chance = Blah Blah Blah. I agree with the no chance comment only because Fedor is to busy fighting nobodies now in BS organizations.
F#$% Fedor! he has fought nobody in the last 2 years since CroCrap who is nothing more than a great kickboxer. dont even bring up the last fight with Lindland.
So who does Randy have to beat before he gets some credit from the haters, maybe Zuluzinho or hey maybe he should start fighting MW’s to get some credit and follow in the footsteps of the Great Fedor!
LordParrish: u seem to b an anoying lil brother type, who just wants to go against the grain n argue with people. I dont know how anyone that has seen Fedor fight can say such idiotic things.
Im such a huge Randy fan, and I am so impressed with him since comming out of retirement. On the other hand, I am a realist. I believe not only would Fedor beat Randy, but he will finish Randy. Still it would b the biggest fight ever and it would be competitive, but eventually Fedors advil-like-hands will dish out too much punishment for Randy to absorb. He has the ability to smother and overwhelm Randy as Randy did to gonzaga.
Randy is amazing, but Fedor is Fedor. Nuf said!
[quote comment=”135340″]There is a rumor circulating that Heath Herring said Fedor IS coming. Fedor will be fighting either Cro Cop or Heath as his debut in the UFC.[/quote]
Nah, Dana white will do exactly what they did with Henderson and have a unification bout. If Randy says he wants fedor, he already knows what he has to do him gameplan-wise.
ufc better sign fedor SOON.. i wanna see fedor fight by the end of the year… NOT GONNA HAPPEN.. Dana better get his head outta of his ass and offer fedor millions.
Randy vs Fedor = AMAZING FIGHT.
As i told all the Gonzaga bandwagoner’s…Gonzaga’s has fought only busters….and he go owned….
All the talk of Randy vs Fedor is too early UFC has to sign the guy first. From the sounds UFC doesn’t want to budge and neither does Fedor. I want the guy in the UFC more so than any other fighter he is the best guy in any division. If the UFC does get him putting him in with Randy is a fight that would have to happen. I love Randy and I will always cheer him on but Fedor might be a bit too much too handle. I still don’t think Big Nog has earned a shot yet he needs another fight first and him and the Pitbull seems like a natural one.
So UFC get Fedor signed bend a little and get the best fighter in the game brought in. Plus get Matt Lindland back the middleweight division is on life support.
[quote comment=”135347″][quote comment=”135340″]There is a rumor circulating that Heath Herring said Fedor IS coming. Fedor will be fighting either Cro Cop or Heath as his debut in the UFC.[/quote]
Nah, Dana white will do exactly what they did with Henderson and have a unification bout. If Randy says he wants fedor, he already knows what he has to do him gameplan-wise.[/quote]
Dana White already said if and when Fedor comes to UFC he will automatically get a title shot and well deserved. Plus Heath Herring is on his way out of the UFC.
[quote comment=”135293″]The problem is that the ufc will be paying out ridiculous money to the top fighter on the planet whose undefeated in Fedor.BUT if he goes to fight sambo once a year and loses in any type of martial arts venue his stock plummets and ufc is directly affected he is not as big as a draw as he was when he was undefeated.[/quote]
As long as he’s kicking ass in the octagon I couldn’t care less if he comes in last place at the Sambo nationals next year.
[quote comment=”135392″]All the talk of Randy vs Fedor is too early UFC has to sign the guy first. From the sounds UFC doesn’t want to budge and neither does Fedor. I want the guy in the UFC more so than any other fighter he is the best guy in any division. If the UFC does get him putting him in with Randy is a fight that would have to happen. I love Randy and I will always cheer him on but Fedor might be a bit too much too handle. I still don’t think Big Nog has earned a shot yet he needs another fight first and him and the Pitbull seems like a natural one.
So UFC get Fedor signed bend a little and get the best fighter in the game brought in. Plus get Matt Lindland back the middleweight division is on life support.[/quote]
I dont think we will ever c Matt Lindland in the UFC again. Dana and Lindland dont get along. Another great fighter we wont get to c compete because Dana’s an egomaniac
[quote comment=”135409″][quote comment=”135347″][quote comment=”135340″]There is a rumor circulating that Heath Herring said Fedor IS coming. Fedor will be fighting either Cro Cop or Heath as his debut in the UFC.[/quote]
Nah, Dana white will do exactly what they did with Henderson and have a unification bout. If Randy says he wants fedor, he already knows what he has to do him gameplan-wise.[/quote]
Dana White already said if and when Fedor comes to UFC he will automatically get a title shot and well deserved. Plus Heath Herring is on his way out of the UFC.[/quote]
I heard from Fedor’s camp that Fedor does not want an immediate title shot, he wants atleast 2 fights to get used to the feel of the cage and octagon. The UFC is pretty adamant about the unification bout being the first one. Sounds to me like Fedor is afraid of loosing. He needs to suck it up, hes an excellent fighter who is currently undefeated, one loss would not change that. Stop protecting that perfect record Fedor! Come to the UFC and fight Randy! Nobody wants to see you fight Herring or Nog (for the 4th time!). We want Fedor vs Couture!!!
[quote post=”3148″]LordParrish: u seem to b an anoying lil brother type, who just wants to go against the grain n argue with people. I dont know how anyone that has seen Fedor fight can say such idiotic things.
Im such a huge Randy fan, and I am so impressed with him since comming out of retirement. On the other hand, I am a realist. I believe not only would Fedor beat Randy, but he will finish Randy. Still it would b the biggest fight ever and it would be competitive, but eventually Fedors advil-like-hands will dish out too much punishment for Randy to absorb. He has the ability to smother and overwhelm Randy as Randy did to gonzaga.
Randy is amazing, but Fedor is Fedor. Nuf said! [/quote]
Ugh…We’re talking about heavyweights here John. And how can you deny that a few of PRIDE’s top heavyweights like CC, Nog, and Heath haven’t been impressive at all? With that said Fedor could not even finish Nog, or CC, and took it to decision…doesn’t that cause you to queston Fedor’s skills at all when people he struggled with are so unimpressive in the UFC? By the way why don’t you take a look at all of Fedor’s fights on sherdog, and take a peek at most of the people he has fought’s records, and you’ll wonder why they were put against someone as “great” as Fedor. He has not beatin any top notch fighters in an impressive fashion, and I consider cutting Heath, or submitting Mark Hunt as decent wins against questionable fighters. Randy’s resume is far more impressive. COUTURE ALL THE WAY.
[quote post=”3148″]Let’s not get all worked up over Randy Couture. He beat Gonzaga big deal- we all now know the fight with Cro Cop was a fluke, and Gonzaga is not a champion. Couture also beat Sylvia- another non champion (I am in better shape then Tim Sylvia and I haven’t worked out in 2 years. Now we are talking about Fedor the greatest fighter on the planet. Couture will at best survive five rounds and lose by unanamous decision. Fedor wil walk right through Couture, Liddel, Cro-Cop again, Big Nog, Silva, and whoever else- Fedor is an old school russian ass kicker- the guy chops wood all day for his workout routine. [/quote]
I was going to comment on this ,but why waste my time. They will still be saying the same thing when Fedor starts losing in the UFC.
I would like to see fight between Randy and Fedor. Let him do his Sambo once a year.
Gotta agree with LordParrish. Fedor IS awesome but so’s Randy. And looking at their records, Randy’s recent opponents have been much better and in their prime. He has every chance of pulling off an upset if the fight ever happens.
[quote post=”3148″]Is it me or is Tito Ortiz’s face and head getting bigger and Bigger. Wow that dude is ugly! Dana better not Bring that meathead Brock lesner to the UFC. Lesner and sherk look like Dr. Evil and minnie me! [/quote]
John, it’s not just you, I noticed that too. I think it’s partly do to the contrast of Jenna’s face getting skinnier and skinnier.
Gonzaga threw some “Cro Cop” High kicks. Man they were scary. I couldnt believe how nasty they looked. I wouldnt doubt if Gonzaga coems back very strong in his next fight. Couture on the other hand is just damn amazing. I was literally on my feet in front of the TV. I couldnt think of another fighter I enjoy watching as much as I do Randy. His bob and weave boxing technique was great! Thats how he mauled Sylvia too.
Either fight seems great. Couture has two fights left on contract. Next fight will probably be in December or January If it’s not Fedor which we are all looking forward too, Nog will be great to see. If I were to give an early prediction. I would say Randy over Nog. I think Nog should be fighting in October, if there is any chance of him fighting RC in December or Jan. I think we should see Nog/AA in October for a tile shot in December. By then Fedor should be worked out
[quote post=”3148″]I agree. A Randy and Fedor fight could easily go either way. I still don’t buy all of Fedor’s HYPE!Yes that’s right I believe Fedor is overrated. It’s the typical highschool story of a kid from a small town who excells in sports (Fedor), who comes to the big city (UFC) to play and soon realizes his old opponents were nothing compared to what he’s now up against. Congrats to Fedor he is a great fighter, but in the UFC Fedor’s top opponents haven’t shown they are better than average (CC, Fat Nog). After watching Crop Cop, and Nog in the UFC I’m amazed Fedor didn’t finish them both every time they fought within a few mins if he is really that good. CC, and Nog are mediocre now, and soon we will all find out that Fedor is also mediocre…I recommend Fedor continues using Sambo as an excuse not to come to the UFC so the truth about how average he really is doesn’t show, and ruin his HYPE. [/quote]
I agree totally, Fedor is good , but not the MMA God most make him out to be. Fedor has to do alot better than take 20 mins ,to beat and not even finish a one dimentional guy like CC. IMHO I think Randy would maul Cro Cop.
[quote comment=”135203″]i will never ever pick against Randy again. this is the first and last time i have. Randy will win this fight[/quote]
I hear that! I don’t care who it is, I’ll pick Couture from now on…
[quote post=”3148″]Oh and one more thing. At this point I wish Dana White would just offed Fedor a mediocre deal, and say “take it or leave it you have a week to decide, and if you decline we will never contact you again.” [/quote]
Fedor is going to delay the deal until Randy is 55 years old, that way he has a better chance at winning lol.
[quote post=”3148″]Fedor is going to delay the deal until Randy is 55 years old, that way he has a better chance at winning lol. [/quote]
Haha very true. Fedor doesn’t want this fight with Randy to happen. Good for him he likes Sambo, but that’s no reason to put off the UFC while in your prime. If Fedor was really that good he’d be all over the UFC’s offers so that he could make himself a multi-millionaire, and hall of famour. A lack of money being offered by Dana White is certainly not the issue, especially considering that just a couple fights ago against Mark Coleman, Fedor fought for a shmeesly 100k. What I think is that Fedor is holding out for some ridiculously high paying contract for 4-6 fights in the UFC, because he knows after that contract is up he will not be worth neerly as much thanks to a couple losses.
[quote comment=”135543″][quote post=”3148″]Fedor is going to delay the deal until Randy is 55 years old, that way he has a better chance at winning lol. [/quote]
Haha very true. Fedor doesn’t want this fight with Randy to happen. Good for him he likes Sambo, but that’s no reason to put off the UFC while in your prime. If Fedor was really that good he’d be all over the UFC’s offers so that he could make himself a multi-millionaire, and hall of famour. A lack of money being offered by Dana White is certainly not the issue, especially considering that just a couple fights ago against Mark Coleman, Fedor fought for a shmeesly 100k. What I think is that Fedor is holding out for some ridiculously high paying contract for 4-6 fights in the UFC, because he knows after that contract is up he will not be worth neerly as much thanks to a couple losses.[/quote]
Why wouldn’t he want to fight Randy Couture? lol He would annihilate him.
Why is everyone saying Randy is so great and Fedor is not. Randy has a crappy record of 16 and 8. Fedor has an amazing record of 28 and 1 or something. Remember Randy can’t even beat Chuck Liddell, and Chuck Liddell can’t beat Rampage, and we all know Rampage loses to Silva, Henderson, Cro-Cop, Fedor, and Nog- so how is Randy so great- he is not even in the top 5. Remember people 16 and 8, Sylvia and Gonzaga suck, and Pride has more talent.
[quote post=”3148″]I heard from Fedor’s camp that Fedor does not want an immediate title shot, he wants atleast 2 fights to get used to the feel of the cage and octagon. The UFC is pretty adamant about the unification bout being the first one. Sounds to me like Fedor is afraid of loosing. He needs to suck it up, hes an excellent fighter who is currently undefeated, one loss would not change that. Stop protecting that perfect record Fedor! Come to the UFC and fight Randy! Nobody wants to see you fight Herring or Nog (for the 4th time!). We want Fedor vs Couture!!! [/quote]
Fedor is not undefeated, he has a LOSS from a cut and it counts as a LOSS , just like it counted as a loss for Randy angainst Vitor and many other fighters.
[quote post=”3148″]Why wouldn’t he want to fight Randy Couture? lol He would annihilate him. [/quote]
And what makes you so sure of that? It’s easy to talk about how great Fedor is compared to Randy, but what is there to back that claim up? Like I aid earlier in this blog…look at Randy’s resume, vs Fedors. Fedor hasn’t beaten many proven big name fighters, and as far as I’ve seen I’m not impressed by anyone Fedor has beaten.
[quote post=”3148″]Why is everyone saying Randy is so great and Fedor is not. Randy has a crappy record of 16 and 8. Fedor has an amazing record of 28 and 1 or something. Remember Randy can’t even beat Chuck Liddell, and Chuck Liddell can’t beat Rampage, and we all know Rampage loses to Silva, Henderson, Cro-Cop, Fedor, and Nog- so how is Randy so great- he is not even in the top 5. Remember people 16 and 8, Sylvia and Gonzaga suck, and Pride has more talent. [/quote]
LoL first of all we’re talking about the heavyweights. And if you want to put it like that…Rampage can’t beat Vanderlie, and Vanderlie cant beat Ortiz, and Ortiz can’t beat Couture… and how can you look at Couture’s record and try to take credit away from him? 16-8 against almost all top notch guys is amazing…Fedor is like 28-1 and 22 of those wins are against mediocre guys.
[quote comment=”135231″][quote comment=”135229″]JAROD:
I don’t think the GG/Cro Cop fight was a fluke at all. Whether people want to hear it or not, Cro Cop is pretty one-dimensional. GG had a great game plan for Cro Cop and was able to execute it perfectly.
Absorb a kick, get the takedown, ground and pound…
We saw Couture execute a similarly well-planned gameplan last night: Push GG in the fence via clinch and use his greco and excellent dirty boxing skills to DOMINATE GG. (Breaking GG’s nose on the takedown didn’t hurt either.)
I wonder if GG had EVER been picked up and slammed like that before? Even if he hadn’t broken his nose, that slam did some mental damage. Have you seen the pictures? His eyes are wide open like WTF?[/quote]
yea when i was watching the fight i spilled my beer when he picked up gonzaga up and slammed him. i with you i don’t think gonzaga thought that would happen, as well as myself. another factor was when couture took that head kick, i think that killed gonzaga mentally, because shorty after he pretty much gave up.[/quote]
this is the truth. i guess its easy to forget how good randy’s chin is after the liddell fights. but he took his licks well and didnt deviate from his very well thought out gameplan. the slam was ridiculous. they wouldve been prying gonzaga out of a hole in the bottom of the cage had he not got a hand on the fence. WAR COUTURE!
[quote comment=”135557″][quote post=”3148″]I heard from Fedor’s camp that Fedor does not want an immediate title shot, he wants atleast 2 fights to get used to the feel of the cage and octagon. The UFC is pretty adamant about the unification bout being the first one. Sounds to me like Fedor is afraid of loosing. He needs to suck it up, hes an excellent fighter who is currently undefeated, one loss would not change that. Stop protecting that perfect record Fedor! Come to the UFC and fight Randy! Nobody wants to see you fight Herring or Nog (for the 4th time!). We want Fedor vs Couture!!! [/quote]
Fedor is not undefeated, he has a LOSS from a cut and it counts as a LOSS , just like it counted as a loss for Randy angainst Vitor and many other fighters.[/quote]
Yeah I know about his one loss, it was a technicality, not a defeat, nobody has actually BEATEN Fedor. The loss you speak of was when Fedor could no longer compete because of a cut he received in a fight in a tournament. Mind you he won that fight, but he could not continue in the tournament, so his next opponent got a free win, and Fedor ended up with a loss. Lets not get technical, you know what I meant.
The same was with Royce Gracie in the UFC, before he fought Hughes he had a single loss on his record (UFC record), because he could no longer continue in the tournament after he fought Kimo. I never counted that as a loss because it was a technicality, Royce’s first REAL loss in the UFC came by way of a Matt Hughes beat down.
[quote post=”3148″]Fedor is going to delay the deal until Randy is 55 years old, that way he has a better chance at winning lol.
Haha very true. Fedor doesn’t want this fight with Randy to happen. Good for him he likes Sambo, but that’s no reason to put off the UFC while in your prime. If Fedor was really that good he’d be all over the UFC’s offers so that he could make himself a multi-millionaire, and hall of famour. A lack of money being offered by Dana White is certainly not the issue, especially considering that just a couple fights ago against Mark Coleman, Fedor fought for a shmeesly 100k. What I think is that Fedor is holding out for some ridiculously high paying contract for 4-6 fights in the UFC, because he knows after that contract is up he will not be worth neerly as much thanks to a couple losses.
Why wouldn’t he want to fight Randy Couture? lol He would annihilate him. [/quote]
Ya,ya we heard it all before, Tim will destroy Randy, CC will kill Randy, I know Randy hasn’t fought CC ,but he owned GG who destroyed CC. CC lost to GG by getting taken down and pounded (he was dizzy from the elbows). Randy is the king of that game. Randy can do serious damage from the gaurd, he doesn’t have to have mount. He has fought some of the best submission guys and they couldn’t submit him. Randy will take Fedor down , that’s a given. Fedor has never fought a guy as relentless as him self. Randy is a bad match up for Fedor and I would be surprised if fedor won. One thing for sure , NOBODY is going to annihilate Couture.
[quote post=”3148″]Why is everyone saying Randy is so great and Fedor is not. Randy has a crappy record of 16 and 8. Fedor has an amazing record of 28 and 1 or something. Remember Randy can’t even beat Chuck Liddell, and Chuck Liddell can’t beat Rampage, and we all know Rampage loses to Silva, Henderson, Cro-Cop, Fedor, and Nog- so how is Randy so great- he is not even in the top 5. Remember people 16 and 8, Sylvia and Gonzaga suck, and Pride has more talent. [/quote]
Records mean nothing about who can beat who in a fight. Neither does MMath (If fedor can’t finish CC and GG can crush him and Randy can finish GG ,than Randy would Destroy Fedor). If Sylvia sucks, than so does your hero Fedor, because his record is almost as good. Pride has no talent,there is no more Pride, they are UFC fighters now.
Everyone that says Fedor is overrated, doesnt live up to the hype, and hasn’t fought anyone? Are you serious???? First off, let me preface by saying I’m a big fan of Randy’s and Fedor’s so I’ll try and say this as unbiased as possible.
Randy is the man…he proved it again last night. He’s fought great fighters and beaten many of them. But he’s no Fedor. If you think Fedor is overrated, have you actually seen him fight??? I am in awe watching him fight. If you really think that and you have seen most of his fights then ok I disagree but if you haven’t seen him fight then please watch him before you make those statements. Whoever said Fedor hasn’t fought anyone, my question is who hasn’t he fought and BEATEN? He’s beat up the who’s who of HW’s in the world, with the exception of Randy. Please don’t say Tim Sylvia, thats a joke. Randy is the only UFC HW I’ve seen that can stand with the Pride HW’s.
Also, as far as Dana not signing Fedor cause of the Sambo thing, I think thats the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Thats like a NBA team having the opportunity to sign Michael Jordan in his prime but they say no because he wants to compete in the Olympics. C’mon Dana, make this happen! The UFC will never have an undisputed HW Champion until they get Fedor in the mix.
I’m tired of hearing Fedor is the greatest fighter in the world. Don’t get me wrong, he’s a badass, but I think Randy will give him all he can handle and then some. he couldn’t finish big nog, who is the UFC’s newest HW stepping stone. When Dana made the big announcement for Nog, I was like so what. Granted he did dec. fat ass no talent Heath Herring, the third time he beat Heath, he will never have a chance to win the HW title. Fedor also beat Cro Cop in a close fight. Cro Cop being that tall Croation with an eggshell chin that Gabe Gonzaga beat the total piss out of before being prematurly stood up, then he went ahead and knocked his head into the nose bleed seats. On a fluke of course, as a few retards on this blog have pointed out. On a fluke, gabe took him down, manhandled him, then almost killed him with a high kick, man I wish I had Gabe’s luck. I think Fedor should have to fight someone in the UFC to prove himself before he fights Randy. Let him fight a three round bore fest with Nog again, then let Randy embarass him. I really do like Fedor, I’m just a little pissed about one or two morons who are trying to discredit 44 year old Randy Couture’s ability because he beat a nobody like GG who’s only big win was a fluke domination over Cro Crop.
Side note,
Ithink if Randy and chuck fought today, Randy would own him. His striking has improved, but more important, his head movement and ability to bob and weave has improved. Not to sound like I want to make love to Couture, he just looks like a better fighter than ever in his last two fights.
[quote post=”3148″]Ithink if Randy and chuck fought today, Randy would own him. His striking has improved, but more important, his head movement and ability to bob and weave has improved. Not to sound like I want to make love to Couture, he just looks like a better fighter than ever in his last two fights. [/quote]
I agree 100% with that. Somehow Couture managed to improve drastically on his already great self. With his fighting style, great workout routine, and amazing genetics Randy can stick around and be a huge threat for atleast a few more years. Couture is a mastermind at fighting now more then ever…amazing.