
“While not confirmed, UFC officials after the fight were talking about another Brazilian, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, the former Pride heavyeight champion, as Couture’s next opponent…. Couture, who rarely asks for a specific opponent, wants a match with Fedor Emelianenko, generally considered the world’s best heavyweight. Negotiations between Dana White and Emelianenko’s representatives have gone hot and cold over the past two months, but they have another meeting scheduled for the next week.”
– Dave Meltzer, contributing to FOXSports.com, reports on what might be next for UFC Heavyweight Champion Randy Couture after his third-round technical knockout of Gabriel Gonzaga last night at UFC 74: “Respect.”
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They removed all of his highlights; so God help them if they don’t placate the masses by letting him do his Sambo once a year, and SIGN HIM!
i was never more impressed with randy couture than i was last night, that dude is amazing, bring on fedor, let randy be the underdog again, we all know he cant lose when hes the underdog…
this will be an awesome fight. Im not saying Randy will win, but I had said before I believe he has the best chance of any heavyweight of being the first man to defeat the King of MMA. This will be the greatest fight in MMA history! And nobody could discredit Couture even if he does loose, cuz well…its Fedor, and everybody looses to Fedor!
i will never ever pick against Randy again. this is the first and last time i have. Randy will win this fight
I really want to see Big Nog fight one more person before he fights Couture, he had a lackluster debut and I think he should fight Brandon Vera or Tim Slyvia.
I would much rather see Fedor/Randy while it can still happen.
Couture is the smartest fighter in the world. No one has a better game plan going into a fight than Couture. Couture looked amazing against Gonzaga. The kick he took to the head; I was like “oh no (thinking about how Cro Cop got knocked out)”, but Couture took it and then went to clench again with Gonzaga. Couture looked big last night, too. I think Couture weighed in at 217.5 pounds against Sylvia and for this fight he weighed in at 228.5 pounds. When Couture is ready to retire; he will retire the UFC Heavyweght Champion.
Here’s to UFC 79: UFC vs. Pride – Dual Main events: Chuck “The Iceman” Liddell vs. Wanderlei “The Axe Murderer” Silva. And for the Undisputed Heavyweight Championship of the World! – Randy “The Natural Couture” vs. Fedor “The Russian Experiment” Emelianenko! December 29, 2007, from the Mandalay Bay events center…Live on Spike TV!!!
Ha Ha I wish…that would be worth every single penny of $40 dollars and would go down as the greatest UFC event of all time.
I’ve been long time fans of Chuck and Randy and only within the past few months got really familiar with Pride. I absolutely love The Axe Murderer and I have never been in awe watching someone fight as I am when I watch Fedor. The first one is too close to call, but I think I see The Axe Murderer (how cool is his nickname btw?). If anyone has a chance to beat Fedor I think its Randy but I do believe its a huge long shot. Its a borderline no brainer to pick Fedor, but damn who plays the underdog role better than Couture? These are dream fights and Dana better be sippin Russian Vodka in Moscow cause we’re about to see the main event of Rocky IV in real life if he does.
Heck, while I’m here putting together this dream card how bout a little Shogun for the LHW Championship, and a Cro Cop/Gonzaga rematch or Cro Cop/Big Nog or Cro Cop/Pitbull match. Just wanna see someone’s face meet Cro Cop’s left foot in the Octagon!
I love football and watch College and NFL religiously every year, but this would trump the BCS NC and the Super Bowl combined!
Let’s not get all worked up over Randy Couture. He beat Gonzaga big deal- we all now know the fight with Cro Cop was a fluke, and Gonzaga is not a champion. Couture also beat Sylvia- another non champion (I am in better shape then Tim Sylvia and I haven’t worked out in 2 years. Now we are talking about Fedor the greatest fighter on the planet. Couture will at best survive five rounds and lose by unanamous decision. Fedor wil walk right through Couture, Liddel, Cro-Cop again, Big Nog, Silva, and whoever else- Fedor is an old school russian ass kicker- the guy chops wood all day for his workout routine.
i love randy couture, that was an amazing game plan, randy beat a huge man. i have the utmost respect for captain america, but if their is ever a chance that fedor and couture fight, fedor too, will have a great game plan, he will not gas and the pace that he sets is about two times as fast as couture. i would love to see this fight. maybe i am stupid but until last night, i really never held couture at the same level as fedor, i do now. the only question i have now, is was gonzaga cro cop a fluke? did anyone notice gonzaga get wobbled by a jab. gonzaga’s chin looked a bit suspect, and cro cop never had a chance to test it, i mean being knocked out. what a fight last night!
JAROD:
I don’t think the GG/Cro Cop fight was a fluke at all. Whether people want to hear it or not, Cro Cop is pretty one-dimensional. GG had a great game plan for Cro Cop and was able to execute it perfectly.
Absorb a kick, get the takedown, ground and pound…
We saw Couture execute a similarly well-planned gameplan last night: Push GG in the fence via clinch and use his greco and excellent dirty boxing skills to DOMINATE GG. (Breaking GG’s nose on the takedown didn’t hurt either.)
I wonder if GG had EVER been picked up and slammed like that before? Even if he hadn’t broken his nose, that slam did some mental damage. Have you seen the pictures? His eyes are wide open like WTF?
[quote comment="135229"]JAROD:
I don’t think the GG/Cro Cop fight was a fluke at all. Whether people want to hear it or not, Cro Cop is pretty one-dimensional. GG had a great game plan for Cro Cop and was able to execute it perfectly.
Absorb a kick, get the takedown, ground and pound…
We saw Couture execute a similarly well-planned gameplan last night: Push GG in the fence via clinch and use his greco and excellent dirty boxing skills to DOMINATE GG. (Breaking GG’s nose on the takedown didn’t hurt either.)
I wonder if GG had EVER been picked up and slammed like that before? Even if he hadn’t broken his nose, that slam did some mental damage. Have you seen the pictures? His eyes are wide open like WTF?[/quote]
yea when i was watching the fight i spilled my beer when he picked up gonzaga up and slammed him. i with you i don’t think gonzaga thought that would happen, as well as myself. another factor was when couture took that head kick, i think that killed gonzaga mentally, because shorty after he pretty much gave up.
Randy seems to be getting better and better, I’ve never seen him look so buff and his boxing is better yet, go randy be the first to school fedor.
Dana is not looking out for the UFC or the UFC fans. Fedor just wants to do Sambo once a year. Can anyone tell me what the problem is whith that. Randy and Fedor will be one of the biggest if not the biggest fight in mma history. They need to sign Fedor and have him and Randy fight at the Rosegarden in Randy’s home town. The crowd would go nuts and Randy would walk away with the win. Nothing against Fedor, but Randy is on fire.
[quote comment="135206"]I really want to see Big Nog fight one more person before he fights Couture, he had a lackluster debut and I think he should fight Brandon Vera or Tim Slyvia.
I would much rather see Fedor/Randy while it can still happen.[/quote]
Arlovski wouldnt be a bad opponent for Noguerra. Randy looked so amazing, that might have been the best he has ever looked, but its not gonna last forever. Bring on Fedor NOW while Randy is still at the top of his game, he might not beat Fedor, but It would be the biggest fight in UFC history, a much bigger draw then Liddell vs. Wanderlei(at this point in their careers)
Maybe now all the Bandwagon fans will understand y a fighter who has fought no one(Gonzaga), although impressive, just isnt ready to fight a legend like couture. For everyone who tried to tell me Gonzaga is too big, is Ju Jitsu is too good, he hits to hard, for Randy. Ya Boy Gonzaga got an old fashion Captain America beatdown. So lets remember this lesson the next time a tough up an comming fighter thinks that he is ready to try an win a 5 rd title fight in the UFC. Randy beat the piss out of ol Gonzaga. Randy dominated as I predicted, however I was impressed wit Gonzaga, the dude is tough, he didnt gas like he always does. GG scared me for a moment when he landed that roudhouse kick in the 3rd round, impressively Randy just ate the kick n blew thrue him. Thanks to Randy and GSP, for making me $800 richer!
The only bad fight of the night was Kendall Groves lackluster, unispiring performance. I thought he would have looked better then ever since he has been training wit Randy, however he got dropped by a quick roundhouse. Kendalls got potential, stop get high n being a thug, dedicate himself more…. cuz that was his worste performance ever (win or loose)
Props to Batman, He fought hard although he seemed to gas, just like his teacher hermes franca did. When will that camp start to value the importance of conditioning?
Alberto Crane displayed beautiful grappling, while getting his face pounded.
Is it me or is Tito Ortiz’s face and head getting bigger and Bigger. Wow that dude is ugly! Dana better not Bring that meathead Brock lesner to the UFC. Lesner and sherk look like Dr. Evil and minnie me!
Randy is a freak of nature.. But, so isn’t Fedor. This is one fight Randy won’t win. I’ll root for him out of respect, but Fedor is not going to get pushed around l;ike Gonzaga. BJJ is great, if you’re on the ground. Gonzaga was out wrestled on the feet. Fedor’s wrestling/sambo is what would be the difference against Randy.
I hope we dont have a bunch of positived steroid tests after this event. I kno it would never happen, but could u imagine how terrible it would be if Randy tested positive for roids after last nights fight. He looked better then ever that would be heartbreaking, thankfully rAND’S THE MAN AND TGHAT WOU,LD NEVER HAPPEN. aNYONE NOTICE HOW MUCH rAndy’s striking is improving with each fight. That guy is amazing, and he is a great roll model for all up and comming fighter.
I thought a say chuck without his Mohawk. Did he really shave it off or am I going crazy?
I think Randy breaking GG’s nose was the major reason that he won that fight. I don’t think it was his gameplan. He should lose to Fedor, but if anyone could find a kink to exploit it would be Randy. Randy has all the respect that I can give.
How can anyone say Randy would beat Fedor? That clinch and smothering isn’t really going to work on the world-class Sambo and striking that Fedor brings to the table. You can act like Couture’s unbeatable as an underdog, but a) he wasn’t an underdog against Gonzaga, and b) the odds are a little bit too steep for this matchup. Fedor’s striking is better, and his conditioning is at least AS GOOD as Couture’s. His ground game is better than anyone else in the HW division, with the exception of Nogueira. He proved that with submissions over the top guys in that area (Coleman, Randleman, Lindland, Fujita). Wrestlers are water on the rocks compared to Fedor. He’s the next generation of fighters, a perfect representation of versatility and conditioning.
It’s going to take a younger fighter to beat him, and the only ones in sight that have a chance to do it right now are Nogueira and Barnett.
My impression is that Couture and Fedor are equally matched, by styles. Both enjoy wrestling, and as you are seeing Couture is a formitable striker, not overpowering, but can give you noodle legs. My opinion is that Fedor would have a fight on his hands, as well as Couture, this one could go either way in a moment, don’t blink!
[quote comment="135280"]How can anyone say Randy would beat Fedor? That clinch and smothering isn’t really going to work on the world-class Sambo and striking that Fedor brings to the table.[/quote]
Don’t count out Randy in this fight. Remember that the UFC has the cage, which Randy uses to pin his opponent against. We havent seen what Fedor can do with the cage yet. RC might be able to use a similar strategy against Fedor that we saw last night, use the cage to set up the takedown and GnP. Im not saying Randy will win, but even if he looses, it will be the fight of Fedors life.
[quote comment="135280"]It’s going to take a younger fighter to beat him, and the only ones in sight that have a chance to do it right now are Nogueira and Barnett.[/quote]
Nog has already fought Fedor 3 times and lost. I really don’t want to see that fight again. If Randy fights Nog and wins, he definitely should be ranked #2 in the world, behind Fedor. Right now Id rank Couture as #3 behind Nog, but only because Nog and Randy have not fought yet.
[quote comment="135241"]Dana is not looking out for the UFC or the UFC fans. Fedor just wants to do Sambo once a year. Can anyone tell me what the problem is whith that. Randy and Fedor will be one of the biggest if not the biggest fight in mma history. They need to sign Fedor and have him and Randy fight at the Rosegarden in Randy’s home town. The crowd would go nuts and Randy would walk away with the win. Nothing against Fedor, but Randy is on fire.[/quote]
The problem is that the ufc will be paying out ridiculous money to the top fighter on the planet whose undefeated in Fedor.BUT if he goes to fight sambo once a year and loses in any type of martial arts venue his stock plummets and ufc is directly affected he is not as big as a draw as he was when he was undefeated. Also if he is under contract at the ufc and has signed on to fight 4 fights in a certain time period and gets hurt in sambo and can’t fight they stand to lose big bucks again. It’s not the contract they lose big on it’s the ppv revenue’s and the money he would bring in headlining events. Yes you have to please the fans no doubt but you have to think logically and from there perspective to. Those are the only obstacles in the way of finalizing a deal. I wouldn’t want to risk the health of my top fighter either and lose millions because I just really want a fighter on my roster. Fedor and his camp knows there is nowhere else that has comparible competition to the ufc and he will eventually have to come here if he wants to remain the best and fight the best. Some might look at it as it’s one fight a year in sambo just let him do it but you could also say “it’s one sambo fight a year give it up who cares” the only one who wants him to compete in sambo is the crazy ass prime minister over there.
[quote comment="135280"]How can anyone say Randy would beat Fedor? That clinch and smothering isn’t really going to work on the world-class Sambo and striking that Fedor brings to the table. You can act like Couture’s unbeatable as an underdog, but a) he wasn’t an underdog against Gonzaga, and b) the odds are a little bit too steep for this matchup. Fedor’s striking is better, and his conditioning is at least AS GOOD as Couture’s. His ground game is better than anyone else in the HW division, with the exception of Nogueira. He proved that with submissions over the top guys in that area (Coleman, Randleman, Lindland, Fujita). Wrestlers are water on the rocks compared to Fedor. He’s the next generation of fighters, a perfect representation of versatility and conditioning.
It’s going to take a younger fighter to beat him, and the only ones in sight that have a chance to do it right now are Nogueira and Barnett.[/quote]a)Randy was an underdog. Check any sportsbook and you will see that Randy was the underdog and b)Fedor is amazing but he’s not as unbeatable as everyone makes him out to be. We’ve already seen some of these “dominate” guys like Cro Cop who a lot of people said would destroy everyone in the UFC are not as dominate as they were made out to be. Not saying those guys aren’t great fighters just that a lot of there fights came against one dimensional fighters in Pride and a lot of the UFC fighters were very underated. I would certainly say Fedor would be the favorite over Randy but you can’t count Randy out vs anyone.
This would be the greatest fight ever. EVER!
I agree. A Randy and Fedor fight could easily go either way. I still don’t buy all of Fedor’s HYPE!Yes that’s right I believe Fedor is overrated. It’s the typical highschool story of a kid from a small town who excells in sports (Fedor), who comes to the big city (UFC) to play and soon realizes his old opponents were nothing compared to what he’s now up against. Congrats to Fedor he is a great fighter, but in the UFC Fedor’s top opponents haven’t shown they are better than average (CC, Fat Nog). After watching Crop Cop, and Nog in the UFC I’m amazed Fedor didn’t finish them both every time they fought within a few mins if he is really that good. CC, and Nog are mediocre now, and soon we will all find out that Fedor is also mediocre…I recommend Fedor continues using Sambo as an excuse not to come to the UFC so the truth about how average he really is doesn’t show, and ruin his HYPE.
Oh and one more thing. At this point I wish Dana White would just offed Fedor a mediocre deal, and say “take it or leave it you have a week to decide, and if you decline we will never contact you again.”
[quote comment="135275"]I think Randy breaking GG’s nose was the major reason that he won that fight. I don’t think it was his gameplan. He should lose to Fedor, but if anyone could find a kink to exploit it would be Randy. Randy has all the respect that I can give.[/quote]
Ummm, how did Randy break GG’s nose? Oh, it was when he picked 250lb GG off his feet and slammed him, haha.
Yes, the broken nose played a major role, but GG was still striking and kicking just fine. (Case in point, Joe Stevenson broke his JAW in the 1st round and went on to win a 3rd decision.)
Make no mistake about it, Randy’s gameplan was perfect for shutting GG down.
[quote comment="135319"]I agree. A Randy and Fedor fight could easily go either way. I still don’t buy all of Fedor’s HYPE!Yes that’s right I believe Fedor is overrated. It’s the typical highschool story of a kid from a small town who excells in sports (Fedor), who comes to the big city (UFC) to play and soon realizes his old opponents were nothing compared to what he’s now up against. Congrats to Fedor he is a great fighter, but in the UFC Fedor’s top opponents haven’t shown they are better than average (CC, Fat Nog). After watching Crop Cop, and Nog in the UFC I’m amazed Fedor didn’t finish them both every time they fought within a few mins if he is really that good. CC, and Nog are mediocre now, and soon we will all find out that Fedor is also mediocre…I recommend Fedor continues using Sambo as an excuse not to come to the UFC so the truth about how average he really is doesn’t show, and ruin his HYPE.[/quote]
You are an idiot! Pride fighters are way more talented than the UFC fighters. Look at the Middleweight Champion- Silva (Pride) and the Light Heavyweight Champion Rampage (Pride). It won’t be long until the Pride fighters take the belt from Randy, either Big Nog, Fedor, or Cro Cop will easily take the belt. Sylvia and Gonzaga are not champion matrial. Gonzaga beating Cro Cop was just a fluke if they were to fight ten more times Cro Cop would win everyone.
[quote comment="135326"][quote comment="135275"]I think Randy breaking GG’s nose was the major reason that he won that fight. I don’t think it was his gameplan. He should lose to Fedor, but if anyone could find a kink to exploit it would be Randy. Randy has all the respect that I can give.[/quote]
Ummm, how did Randy break GG’s nose? Oh, it was when he picked 250lb GG off his feet and slammed him, haha.
Yes, the broken nose played a major role, but GG was still striking and kicking just fine. (Case in point, Joe Stevenson broke his JAW in the 1st round and went on to win a 3rd decision.)
Make no mistake about it, Randy’s gameplan was perfect for shutting GG down.[/quote]
also Gsp had a broken nose and then dominated round 2 and 3, obvious talent and heart.
[quote comment="135229"]JAROD:
I don’t think the GG/Cro Cop fight was a fluke at all. Whether people want to hear it or not, Cro Cop is pretty one-dimensional. GG had a great game plan for Cro Cop and was able to execute it perfectly.
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I disagree that Cro Cop is only one-dimensional. I’ve seen him ground and pound people out just as much as he has kicked their heads in. I do believe his strengths are really in his stand-up, his one-dimension, but thats where he got knocked out! In his own one-dimensional realm. I honestly just think he didn’t expect a high kick from such a body as Gonzaga’s and he was thinking he was more of a BJJ guy trying to take him to the ground. Mix that with some new first-fight jitters being in the new ring and country and a loss was iminent. He’ll do better next time around and I think he’s learned to expect the unexpected.
There is a rumor circulating that Heath Herring said Fedor IS coming. Fedor will be fighting either Cro Cop or Heath as his debut in the UFC.
Couture is amazing! now the talkin starts again. so RC had no chance against Poopie and then 5 rounds of domination, no chance again GG and 3 rounds of domination. Now the talk about Fedor, no chance = Blah Blah Blah. I agree with the no chance comment only because Fedor is to busy fighting nobodies now in BS organizations.
F#$% Fedor! he has fought nobody in the last 2 years since CroCrap who is nothing more than a great kickboxer. dont even bring up the last fight with Lindland.
So who does Randy have to beat before he gets some credit from the haters, maybe Zuluzinho or hey maybe he should start fighting MW’s to get some credit and follow in the footsteps of the Great Fedor!
LordParrish: u seem to b an anoying lil brother type, who just wants to go against the grain n argue with people. I dont know how anyone that has seen Fedor fight can say such idiotic things.
Im such a huge Randy fan, and I am so impressed with him since comming out of retirement. On the other hand, I am a realist. I believe not only would Fedor beat Randy, but he will finish Randy. Still it would b the biggest fight ever and it would be competitive, but eventually Fedors advil-like-hands will dish out too much punishment for Randy to absorb. He has the ability to smother and overwhelm Randy as Randy did to gonzaga.
Randy is amazing, but Fedor is Fedor. Nuf said!
[quote comment="135340"]There is a rumor circulating that Heath Herring said Fedor IS coming. Fedor will be fighting either Cro Cop or Heath as his debut in the UFC.[/quote]
Nah, Dana white will do exactly what they did with Henderson and have a unification bout. If Randy says he wants fedor, he already knows what he has to do him gameplan-wise.
ufc better sign fedor SOON.. i wanna see fedor fight by the end of the year… NOT GONNA HAPPEN.. Dana better get his head outta of his ass and offer fedor millions.
Randy vs Fedor = AMAZING FIGHT.
As i told all the Gonzaga bandwagoner’s…Gonzaga’s has fought only busters….and he go owned….
All the talk of Randy vs Fedor is too early UFC has to sign the guy first. From the sounds UFC doesn’t want to budge and neither does Fedor. I want the guy in the UFC more so than any other fighter he is the best guy in any division. If the UFC does get him putting him in with Randy is a fight that would have to happen. I love Randy and I will always cheer him on but Fedor might be a bit too much too handle. I still don’t think Big Nog has earned a shot yet he needs another fight first and him and the Pitbull seems like a natural one.
So UFC get Fedor signed bend a little and get the best fighter in the game brought in. Plus get Matt Lindland back the middleweight division is on life support.
[quote comment="135347"][quote comment="135340"]There is a rumor circulating that Heath Herring said Fedor IS coming. Fedor will be fighting either Cro Cop or Heath as his debut in the UFC.[/quote]
Nah, Dana white will do exactly what they did with Henderson and have a unification bout. If Randy says he wants fedor, he already knows what he has to do him gameplan-wise.[/quote]
Dana White already said if and when Fedor comes to UFC he will automatically get a title shot and well deserved. Plus Heath Herring is on his way out of the UFC.
[quote comment="135293"]The problem is that the ufc will be paying out ridiculous money to the top fighter on the planet whose undefeated in Fedor.BUT if he goes to fight sambo once a year and loses in any type of martial arts venue his stock plummets and ufc is directly affected he is not as big as a draw as he was when he was undefeated.[/quote]
As long as he’s kicking ass in the octagon I couldn’t care less if he comes in last place at the Sambo nationals next year.
[quote comment="135392"]All the talk of Randy vs Fedor is too early UFC has to sign the guy first. From the sounds UFC doesn’t want to budge and neither does Fedor. I want the guy in the UFC more so than any other fighter he is the best guy in any division. If the UFC does get him putting him in with Randy is a fight that would have to happen. I love Randy and I will always cheer him on but Fedor might be a bit too much too handle. I still don’t think Big Nog has earned a shot yet he needs another fight first and him and the Pitbull seems like a natural one.
So UFC get Fedor signed bend a little and get the best fighter in the game brought in. Plus get Matt Lindland back the middleweight division is on life support.[/quote]
I dont think we will ever c Matt Lindland in the UFC again. Dana and Lindland dont get along. Another great fighter we wont get to c compete because Dana’s an egomaniac
[quote comment="135409"][quote comment="135347"][quote comment="135340"]There is a rumor circulating that Heath Herring said Fedor IS coming. Fedor will be fighting either Cro Cop or Heath as his debut in the UFC.[/quote]
Nah, Dana white will do exactly what they did with Henderson and have a unification bout. If Randy says he wants fedor, he already knows what he has to do him gameplan-wise.[/quote]
Dana White already said if and when Fedor comes to UFC he will automatically get a title shot and well deserved. Plus Heath Herring is on his way out of the UFC.[/quote]
I heard from Fedor’s camp that Fedor does not want an immediate title shot, he wants atleast 2 fights to get used to the feel of the cage and octagon. The UFC is pretty adamant about the unification bout being the first one. Sounds to me like Fedor is afraid of loosing. He needs to suck it up, hes an excellent fighter who is currently undefeated, one loss would not change that. Stop protecting that perfect record Fedor! Come to the UFC and fight Randy! Nobody wants to see you fight Herring or Nog (for the 4th time!). We want Fedor vs Couture!!!
[quote post="3148"]LordParrish: u seem to b an anoying lil brother type, who just wants to go against the grain n argue with people. I dont know how anyone that has seen Fedor fight can say such idiotic things.
Im such a huge Randy fan, and I am so impressed with him since comming out of retirement. On the other hand, I am a realist. I believe not only would Fedor beat Randy, but he will finish Randy. Still it would b the biggest fight ever and it would be competitive, but eventually Fedors advil-like-hands will dish out too much punishment for Randy to absorb. He has the ability to smother and overwhelm Randy as Randy did to gonzaga.
Randy is amazing, but Fedor is Fedor. Nuf said! [/quote]
Ugh…We’re talking about heavyweights here John. And how can you deny that a few of PRIDE’s top heavyweights like CC, Nog, and Heath haven’t been impressive at all? With that said Fedor could not even finish Nog, or CC, and took it to decision…doesn’t that cause you to queston Fedor’s skills at all when people he struggled with are so unimpressive in the UFC? By the way why don’t you take a look at all of Fedor’s fights on sherdog, and take a peek at most of the people he has fought’s records, and you’ll wonder why they were put against someone as “great” as Fedor. He has not beatin any top notch fighters in an impressive fashion, and I consider cutting Heath, or submitting Mark Hunt as decent wins against questionable fighters. Randy’s resume is far more impressive. COUTURE ALL THE WAY.
[quote post="3148"]Let’s not get all worked up over Randy Couture. He beat Gonzaga big deal- we all now know the fight with Cro Cop was a fluke, and Gonzaga is not a champion. Couture also beat Sylvia- another non champion (I am in better shape then Tim Sylvia and I haven’t worked out in 2 years. Now we are talking about Fedor the greatest fighter on the planet. Couture will at best survive five rounds and lose by unanamous decision. Fedor wil walk right through Couture, Liddel, Cro-Cop again, Big Nog, Silva, and whoever else- Fedor is an old school russian ass kicker- the guy chops wood all day for his workout routine. [/quote]
I was going to comment on this ,but why waste my time. They will still be saying the same thing when Fedor starts losing in the UFC.
I would like to see fight between Randy and Fedor. Let him do his Sambo once a year.
Gotta agree with LordParrish. Fedor IS awesome but so’s Randy. And looking at their records, Randy’s recent opponents have been much better and in their prime. He has every chance of pulling off an upset if the fight ever happens.
[quote post="3148"]Is it me or is Tito Ortiz’s face and head getting bigger and Bigger. Wow that dude is ugly! Dana better not Bring that meathead Brock lesner to the UFC. Lesner and sherk look like Dr. Evil and minnie me! [/quote]
John, it’s not just you, I noticed that too. I think it’s partly do to the contrast of Jenna’s face getting skinnier and skinnier.
Gonzaga threw some “Cro Cop” High kicks. Man they were scary. I couldnt believe how nasty they looked. I wouldnt doubt if Gonzaga coems back very strong in his next fight. Couture on the other hand is just damn amazing. I was literally on my feet in front of the TV. I couldnt think of another fighter I enjoy watching as much as I do Randy. His bob and weave boxing technique was great! Thats how he mauled Sylvia too.
Either fight seems great. Couture has two fights left on contract. Next fight will probably be in December or January If it’s not Fedor which we are all looking forward too, Nog will be great to see. If I were to give an early prediction. I would say Randy over Nog. I think Nog should be fighting in October, if there is any chance of him fighting RC in December or Jan. I think we should see Nog/AA in October for a tile shot in December. By then Fedor should be worked out
[quote post="3148"]I agree. A Randy and Fedor fight could easily go either way. I still don’t buy all of Fedor’s HYPE!Yes that’s right I believe Fedor is overrated. It’s the typical highschool story of a kid from a small town who excells in sports (Fedor), who comes to the big city (UFC) to play and soon realizes his old opponents were nothing compared to what he’s now up against. Congrats to Fedor he is a great fighter, but in the UFC Fedor’s top opponents haven’t shown they are better than average (CC, Fat Nog). After watching Crop Cop, and Nog in the UFC I’m amazed Fedor didn’t finish them both every time they fought within a few mins if he is really that good. CC, and Nog are mediocre now, and soon we will all find out that Fedor is also mediocre…I recommend Fedor continues using Sambo as an excuse not to come to the UFC so the truth about how average he really is doesn’t show, and ruin his HYPE. [/quote]
I agree totally, Fedor is good , but not the MMA God most make him out to be. Fedor has to do alot better than take 20 mins ,to beat and not even finish a one dimentional guy like CC. IMHO I think Randy would maul Cro Cop.
[quote comment="135203"]i will never ever pick against Randy again. this is the first and last time i have. Randy will win this fight[/quote]
I hear that! I don’t care who it is, I’ll pick Couture from now on…
[quote post="3148"]Oh and one more thing. At this point I wish Dana White would just offed Fedor a mediocre deal, and say “take it or leave it you have a week to decide, and if you decline we will never contact you again.” [/quote]
Fedor is going to delay the deal until Randy is 55 years old, that way he has a better chance at winning lol.
[quote post="3148"]Fedor is going to delay the deal until Randy is 55 years old, that way he has a better chance at winning lol. [/quote]
Haha very true. Fedor doesn’t want this fight with Randy to happen. Good for him he likes Sambo, but that’s no reason to put off the UFC while in your prime. If Fedor was really that good he’d be all over the UFC’s offers so that he could make himself a multi-millionaire, and hall of famour. A lack of money being offered by Dana White is certainly not the issue, especially considering that just a couple fights ago against Mark Coleman, Fedor fought for a shmeesly 100k. What I think is that Fedor is holding out for some ridiculously high paying contract for 4-6 fights in the UFC, because he knows after that contract is up he will not be worth neerly as much thanks to a couple losses.
[quote comment="135543"][quote post="3148"]Fedor is going to delay the deal until Randy is 55 years old, that way he has a better chance at winning lol. [/quote]
Haha very true. Fedor doesn’t want this fight with Randy to happen. Good for him he likes Sambo, but that’s no reason to put off the UFC while in your prime. If Fedor was really that good he’d be all over the UFC’s offers so that he could make himself a multi-millionaire, and hall of famour. A lack of money being offered by Dana White is certainly not the issue, especially considering that just a couple fights ago against Mark Coleman, Fedor fought for a shmeesly 100k. What I think is that Fedor is holding out for some ridiculously high paying contract for 4-6 fights in the UFC, because he knows after that contract is up he will not be worth neerly as much thanks to a couple losses.[/quote]
Why wouldn’t he want to fight Randy Couture? lol He would annihilate him.
Why is everyone saying Randy is so great and Fedor is not. Randy has a crappy record of 16 and 8. Fedor has an amazing record of 28 and 1 or something. Remember Randy can’t even beat Chuck Liddell, and Chuck Liddell can’t beat Rampage, and we all know Rampage loses to Silva, Henderson, Cro-Cop, Fedor, and Nog- so how is Randy so great- he is not even in the top 5. Remember people 16 and 8, Sylvia and Gonzaga suck, and Pride has more talent.
[quote post="3148"]I heard from Fedor’s camp that Fedor does not want an immediate title shot, he wants atleast 2 fights to get used to the feel of the cage and octagon. The UFC is pretty adamant about the unification bout being the first one. Sounds to me like Fedor is afraid of loosing. He needs to suck it up, hes an excellent fighter who is currently undefeated, one loss would not change that. Stop protecting that perfect record Fedor! Come to the UFC and fight Randy! Nobody wants to see you fight Herring or Nog (for the 4th time!). We want Fedor vs Couture!!! [/quote]
Fedor is not undefeated, he has a LOSS from a cut and it counts as a LOSS , just like it counted as a loss for Randy angainst Vitor and many other fighters.
[quote post="3148"]Why wouldn’t he want to fight Randy Couture? lol He would annihilate him. [/quote]
And what makes you so sure of that? It’s easy to talk about how great Fedor is compared to Randy, but what is there to back that claim up? Like I aid earlier in this blog…look at Randy’s resume, vs Fedors. Fedor hasn’t beaten many proven big name fighters, and as far as I’ve seen I’m not impressed by anyone Fedor has beaten.
[quote post="3148"]Why is everyone saying Randy is so great and Fedor is not. Randy has a crappy record of 16 and 8. Fedor has an amazing record of 28 and 1 or something. Remember Randy can’t even beat Chuck Liddell, and Chuck Liddell can’t beat Rampage, and we all know Rampage loses to Silva, Henderson, Cro-Cop, Fedor, and Nog- so how is Randy so great- he is not even in the top 5. Remember people 16 and 8, Sylvia and Gonzaga suck, and Pride has more talent. [/quote]
LoL first of all we’re talking about the heavyweights. And if you want to put it like that…Rampage can’t beat Vanderlie, and Vanderlie cant beat Ortiz, and Ortiz can’t beat Couture… and how can you look at Couture’s record and try to take credit away from him? 16-8 against almost all top notch guys is amazing…Fedor is like 28-1 and 22 of those wins are against mediocre guys.
[quote comment="135231"][quote comment="135229"]JAROD:
I don’t think the GG/Cro Cop fight was a fluke at all. Whether people want to hear it or not, Cro Cop is pretty one-dimensional. GG had a great game plan for Cro Cop and was able to execute it perfectly.
Absorb a kick, get the takedown, ground and pound…
We saw Couture execute a similarly well-planned gameplan last night: Push GG in the fence via clinch and use his greco and excellent dirty boxing skills to DOMINATE GG. (Breaking GG’s nose on the takedown didn’t hurt either.)
I wonder if GG had EVER been picked up and slammed like that before? Even if he hadn’t broken his nose, that slam did some mental damage. Have you seen the pictures? His eyes are wide open like WTF?[/quote]
yea when i was watching the fight i spilled my beer when he picked up gonzaga up and slammed him. i with you i don’t think gonzaga thought that would happen, as well as myself. another factor was when couture took that head kick, i think that killed gonzaga mentally, because shorty after he pretty much gave up.[/quote]
this is the truth. i guess its easy to forget how good randy’s chin is after the liddell fights. but he took his licks well and didnt deviate from his very well thought out gameplan. the slam was ridiculous. they wouldve been prying gonzaga out of a hole in the bottom of the cage had he not got a hand on the fence. WAR COUTURE!
[quote comment="135557"][quote post="3148"]I heard from Fedor’s camp that Fedor does not want an immediate title shot, he wants atleast 2 fights to get used to the feel of the cage and octagon. The UFC is pretty adamant about the unification bout being the first one. Sounds to me like Fedor is afraid of loosing. He needs to suck it up, hes an excellent fighter who is currently undefeated, one loss would not change that. Stop protecting that perfect record Fedor! Come to the UFC and fight Randy! Nobody wants to see you fight Herring or Nog (for the 4th time!). We want Fedor vs Couture!!! [/quote]
Fedor is not undefeated, he has a LOSS from a cut and it counts as a LOSS , just like it counted as a loss for Randy angainst Vitor and many other fighters.[/quote]
Yeah I know about his one loss, it was a technicality, not a defeat, nobody has actually BEATEN Fedor. The loss you speak of was when Fedor could no longer compete because of a cut he received in a fight in a tournament. Mind you he won that fight, but he could not continue in the tournament, so his next opponent got a free win, and Fedor ended up with a loss. Lets not get technical, you know what I meant.
The same was with Royce Gracie in the UFC, before he fought Hughes he had a single loss on his record (UFC record), because he could no longer continue in the tournament after he fought Kimo. I never counted that as a loss because it was a technicality, Royce’s first REAL loss in the UFC came by way of a Matt Hughes beat down.
[quote post="3148"]Fedor is going to delay the deal until Randy is 55 years old, that way he has a better chance at winning lol.
Haha very true. Fedor doesn’t want this fight with Randy to happen. Good for him he likes Sambo, but that’s no reason to put off the UFC while in your prime. If Fedor was really that good he’d be all over the UFC’s offers so that he could make himself a multi-millionaire, and hall of famour. A lack of money being offered by Dana White is certainly not the issue, especially considering that just a couple fights ago against Mark Coleman, Fedor fought for a shmeesly 100k. What I think is that Fedor is holding out for some ridiculously high paying contract for 4-6 fights in the UFC, because he knows after that contract is up he will not be worth neerly as much thanks to a couple losses.
Why wouldn’t he want to fight Randy Couture? lol He would annihilate him. [/quote]
Ya,ya we heard it all before, Tim will destroy Randy, CC will kill Randy, I know Randy hasn’t fought CC ,but he owned GG who destroyed CC. CC lost to GG by getting taken down and pounded (he was dizzy from the elbows). Randy is the king of that game. Randy can do serious damage from the gaurd, he doesn’t have to have mount. He has fought some of the best submission guys and they couldn’t submit him. Randy will take Fedor down , that’s a given. Fedor has never fought a guy as relentless as him self. Randy is a bad match up for Fedor and I would be surprised if fedor won. One thing for sure , NOBODY is going to annihilate Couture.
[quote post="3148"]Why is everyone saying Randy is so great and Fedor is not. Randy has a crappy record of 16 and 8. Fedor has an amazing record of 28 and 1 or something. Remember Randy can’t even beat Chuck Liddell, and Chuck Liddell can’t beat Rampage, and we all know Rampage loses to Silva, Henderson, Cro-Cop, Fedor, and Nog- so how is Randy so great- he is not even in the top 5. Remember people 16 and 8, Sylvia and Gonzaga suck, and Pride has more talent. [/quote]
Records mean nothing about who can beat who in a fight. Neither does MMath (If fedor can’t finish CC and GG can crush him and Randy can finish GG ,than Randy would Destroy Fedor). If Sylvia sucks, than so does your hero Fedor, because his record is almost as good. Pride has no talent,there is no more Pride, they are UFC fighters now.
Everyone that says Fedor is overrated, doesnt live up to the hype, and hasn’t fought anyone? Are you serious???? First off, let me preface by saying I’m a big fan of Randy’s and Fedor’s so I’ll try and say this as unbiased as possible.
Randy is the man…he proved it again last night. He’s fought great fighters and beaten many of them. But he’s no Fedor. If you think Fedor is overrated, have you actually seen him fight??? I am in awe watching him fight. If you really think that and you have seen most of his fights then ok I disagree but if you haven’t seen him fight then please watch him before you make those statements. Whoever said Fedor hasn’t fought anyone, my question is who hasn’t he fought and BEATEN? He’s beat up the who’s who of HW’s in the world, with the exception of Randy. Please don’t say Tim Sylvia, thats a joke. Randy is the only UFC HW I’ve seen that can stand with the Pride HW’s.
Also, as far as Dana not signing Fedor cause of the Sambo thing, I think thats the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Thats like a NBA team having the opportunity to sign Michael Jordan in his prime but they say no because he wants to compete in the Olympics. C’mon Dana, make this happen! The UFC will never have an undisputed HW Champion until they get Fedor in the mix.
I’m tired of hearing Fedor is the greatest fighter in the world. Don’t get me wrong, he’s a badass, but I think Randy will give him all he can handle and then some. he couldn’t finish big nog, who is the UFC’s newest HW stepping stone. When Dana made the big announcement for Nog, I was like so what. Granted he did dec. fat ass no talent Heath Herring, the third time he beat Heath, he will never have a chance to win the HW title. Fedor also beat Cro Cop in a close fight. Cro Cop being that tall Croation with an eggshell chin that Gabe Gonzaga beat the total piss out of before being prematurly stood up, then he went ahead and knocked his head into the nose bleed seats. On a fluke of course, as a few retards on this blog have pointed out. On a fluke, gabe took him down, manhandled him, then almost killed him with a high kick, man I wish I had Gabe’s luck. I think Fedor should have to fight someone in the UFC to prove himself before he fights Randy. Let him fight a three round bore fest with Nog again, then let Randy embarass him. I really do like Fedor, I’m just a little pissed about one or two morons who are trying to discredit 44 year old Randy Couture’s ability because he beat a nobody like GG who’s only big win was a fluke domination over Cro Crop.
Side note,
Ithink if Randy and chuck fought today, Randy would own him. His striking has improved, but more important, his head movement and ability to bob and weave has improved. Not to sound like I want to make love to Couture, he just looks like a better fighter than ever in his last two fights.
[quote post="3148"]Ithink if Randy and chuck fought today, Randy would own him. His striking has improved, but more important, his head movement and ability to bob and weave has improved. Not to sound like I want to make love to Couture, he just looks like a better fighter than ever in his last two fights. [/quote]
I agree 100% with that. Somehow Couture managed to improve drastically on his already great self. With his fighting style, great workout routine, and amazing genetics Randy can stick around and be a huge threat for atleast a few more years. Couture is a mastermind at fighting now more then ever…amazing.
Also sick of pride this and that. Other than Fedor, all of pride’s best heavies have crossed over, and sucked UFC balls….other than Nog, who beat Herring ” the texas lazy horse” Marcus Aurellio’s stud ass crossed over and took a loss. And soon to be dominated …. The Ass Murderer “WANDI”, pronounced Vandi. Of course that will be after he’s tossed a few lame fights because Dana has to protect his investment.
Steve, a few other UFC guys that can hang with Pride’s best heavies…. Gabe Gonzaga destroyed Cro Cop – Jake ” the wrestling is my only skill” O’Brien dominated Heath Herring – an Big Nog soon to be dominated by any decent UFC fighter he is put up against. Pride was the biggest MMA organization, not the best
Fedor should not be discredited at all. He beat Cro Cop in his prime, beat nog three times, beat randleman, beat lindland, he beat some elite fighters. I just believe that it’s a dumb fight for fedor to take as his first in the ufc and if i were him i would duck it. All the fans are going to be rooting for couture , randy’s the underdog (a role he loves) and randy has nothing to lose, he knows if he loses he’s retiring and passing the torch on to whoever defeats him. I truly believe that if anyone is going to beat fedor anytime soon, randy is the guy that’s gonna do it
[quote comment="135556"]Why is everyone saying Randy is so great and Fedor is not. Randy has a crappy record of 16 and 8. Fedor has an amazing record of 28 and 1 or something. Remember Randy can’t even beat Chuck Liddell, and Chuck Liddell can’t beat Rampage, and we all know Rampage loses to Silva, Henderson, Cro-Cop, Fedor, and Nog- so how is Randy so great- he is not even in the top 5. Remember people 16 and 8, Sylvia and Gonzaga suck, and Pride has more talent.[/quote]
Randy has a record of 16 and 8 against mostly top talent. If you look at every fight Randy has been in besides the Van Arsdale fight, Randy has always fought the top dog at that particular time, the best of the best (Liddel, Vitor, Ortiz, you name it). Van Arsdale being the exception. And yes, hes lost 8 of those fights, all good losses against great fighters.
How many times has Randy taken an easy fight just to get a win. Randy doesn’t try to protect his record. Fedor has fought some top talent, but more than half of his wins are from nobody’s.
Oh and do I have to mention that Couture is a 6 time champion in 2 different weight classes? And you question his status because of his record of 16 and 8?
Randy is calling out Fedor, that shows what kind of man Randy is, 44 years old and calling out the best fighter in the world, absolutely no fear. Whats Fedor afraid of? why the fuck does he want to fight UFC losers first? I definitely question that logic, hes the #1 ranked HW in the world, I say prove it, NOW BEFORE RANDY RETIRES!
[quote post="3148"]Randy is calling out Fedor, that shows what kind of man Randy is, 44 years old and calling out the best fighter in the world, absolutely no fear. Whats Fedor afraid of? why the fuck does he want to fight UFC losers first? I definitely question that logic, hes the #1 ranked HW in the world, I say prove it, NOW BEFORE RANDY RETIRES! [/quote]
I’d be willing to bet that Dana White is thinking the exact same thing…he wants to add to Randy’s legend with a Fedor fight, and I guarantee he wants to get that fight going asap so Randy doesn’t get any older…not that his age seems to matter lol.
I told you guys Randy was going to whoop his ass.
Fedor is still scared of the Natural.
And Rampage will whoop Dan’s ass,Shogun’s ass,and whoever else who wants the lhw belt.
[quote comment="135648"]Side note,
Ithink if Randy and chuck fought today, Randy would own him. His striking has improved, but more important, his head movement and ability to bob and weave has improved.
Not to sound like I want to make love to Couture, he just looks like a better fighter than ever in his last two fights.[/quote]
I was thinking about that too while i was wacthing that clinic displayed by Randy.
i personally was blown away by couture;s peroformance but u guys are giving the guy wayyyyy too much credit aiite he beat an injured sylvia an overrated gg no oofense too gg i think hes a great fighter but just a lil overrated and suddenl the guy is god and can beat fedor and any1 else in the hw division firs of al randy is not smarter than fedor fedor is prob the best tachtcian out there second that clicnh stuff couture did wouldnt work on a guy like fedor third i can name about 6 guys who would beat couture those would be barnett big nog cc fedor aa and prob werdum and the final reason now u guys are overrating couture no doubt hes one of the best but the staus u guys are giving him
i will admit i doubted couture picked against him last night, i thought gonzaga would rain. but that guy is pure heart, if he fights big nog i am picking randy to win, if he fights fedor i am picking fedor to win. i thought maybe cro cop would be in the mix, anyways this guy is fearless like lidell please sign fedor or barnett.
[quote comment="135220"]Let’s not get all worked up over Randy Couture. He beat Gonzaga big deal- we all now know the fight with Cro Cop was a fluke, and Gonzaga is not a champion. Couture also beat Sylvia- another non champion (I am in better shape then Tim Sylvia and I haven’t worked out in 2 years. Now we are talking about Fedor the greatest fighter on the planet. Couture will at best survive five rounds and lose by unanamous decision. Fedor wil walk right through Couture, Liddel, Cro-Cop again, Big Nog, Silva, and whoever else- Fedor is an old school russian ass kicker- the guy chops wood all day for his workout routine.[/quote]
Randy will go out there and it will be competitive, and a good-ass fight like always.
Man just the argueing on this forum with the Randy lovers, and the Fedor lovers, man ima cream my pants.
I would vote for Randy no doubt, I would LOVE to see him beat Fedor. But it would be a good fight. LETS DO IT!!!
[quote comment="135319"]I agree. A Randy and Fedor fight could easily go either way. I still don’t buy all of Fedor’s HYPE!Yes that’s right I believe Fedor is overrated. It’s the typical highschool story of a kid from a small town who excells in sports (Fedor), who comes to the big city (UFC) to play and soon realizes his old opponents were nothing compared to what he’s now up against. Congrats to Fedor he is a great fighter, but in the UFC Fedor’s top opponents haven’t shown they are better than average (CC, Fat Nog). After watching Crop Cop, and Nog in the UFC I’m amazed Fedor didn’t finish them both every time they fought within a few mins if he is really that good. CC, and Nog are mediocre now, and soon we will all find out that Fedor is also mediocre…I recommend Fedor continues using Sambo as an excuse not to come to the UFC so the truth about how average he really is doesn’t show, and ruin his HYPE.[/quote]
Cro Cop lost one fight and he is mediocre? Big Nog is mediocre? Gonzaga scored a Flash knockout on someone who was not used to the elbows, which is essentially what put him out of the game. I personally feel that if Gonzaga and Cro Cop fought the best of 5 CC would come out on top. I think that is the last time you will see an unprepared CC. He will rain more gound work now and come back prepared. By your reasoning GSP must suck, because nobody feels Serra is a true champ, but he knocked GSP out.
As far as Big Nog being meicore that is insane. I think he will get used to the style differences here and a dominate force in the HW division. He is not only considered great by Pride fans, but by the fighters as well. He is one of the more respected fighters among fighters. People lineup to train under the Big Nog. That does not hapen through mediocrity! Just my 2 cents on yout opinion though!
none of these “Pride HW” guys suck, they are just not the Nuts that so many try to lead us to believe, none of them are “unbeatable” either.
Big Nog is probably the best HW that came over but didnt show much of anything against HH who IMO is horrible. HH is a guy that was “a hired gun, to bring excitement to the UFC HW division”. Sorry but 3 fights that go to decision doesnt really seem like the excitement the UFC needed.
Half the guys in Pride that come over have highlight reels of KO’s that are illegal in the UFC. Maybe the adjustment to the cage and the new MMA rules is a tougher transition that most thought.
Just to add.
I think all the mediocre and overrated comments come from the following “post-Pride” records which are very unimpressive at the very least
CC = 1-1 with a win over Eddie Sanchez
HH = 1-2 with a win over Brad Imes
FW = 0-1
Nog = 1-0, the only one with a winning record, but its against another Pride HW that he has already beat twice!
[quote comment="135206"]I really want to see Big Nog fight one more person before he fights Couture, he had a lackluster debut and I think he should fight Brandon Vera or Tim Slyvia.
I would much rather see Fedor/Randy while it can still happen.[/quote]
I totally agree.
[quote comment="135471"][quote post="3148"]LordParrish: u seem to b an anoying lil brother type, who just wants to go against the grain n argue with people. I dont know how anyone that has seen Fedor fight can say such idiotic things.
Im such a huge Randy fan, and I am so impressed with him since comming out of retirement. On the other hand, I am a realist. I believe not only would Fedor beat Randy, but he will finish Randy. Still it would b the biggest fight ever and it would be competitive, but eventually Fedors advil-like-hands will dish out too much punishment for Randy to absorb. He has the ability to smother and overwhelm Randy as Randy did to gonzaga.
Randy is amazing, but Fedor is Fedor. Nuf said! [/quote]
Ugh…We’re talking about heavyweights here John. And how can you deny that a few of PRIDE’s top heavyweights like CC, Nog, and Heath haven’t been impressive at all? With that said Fedor could not even finish Nog, or CC, and took it to decision…doesn’t that cause you to queston Fedor’s skills at all when people he struggled with are so unimpressive in the UFC? By the way why don’t you take a look at all of Fedor’s fights on sherdog, and take a peek at most of the people he has fought’s records, and you’ll wonder why they were put against someone as “great” as Fedor. He has not beatin any top notch fighters in an impressive fashion, and I consider cutting Heath, or submitting Mark Hunt as decent wins against questionable fighters. Randy’s resume is far more impressive. COUTURE ALL THE WAY.[/quote]
impressive like when he got his ass whipped by josh barnett, the same barnett that got beat down by both cro cop and big nog, just a thought
[quote post="3148"]LordParrish: u seem to b an anoying lil brother type, who just wants to go against the grain n argue with people. I dont know how anyone that has seen Fedor fight can say such idiotic things.
Im such a huge Randy fan, and I am so impressed with him since comming out of retirement. On the other hand, I am a realist. I believe not only would Fedor beat Randy, but he will finish Randy. Still it would b the biggest fight ever and it would be competitive, but eventually Fedors advil-like-hands will dish out too much punishment for Randy to absorb. He has the ability to smother and overwhelm Randy as Randy did to gonzaga.
Randy is amazing, but Fedor is Fedor. Nuf said!
Ugh…We’re talking about heavyweights here John. And how can you deny that a few of PRIDE’s top heavyweights like CC, Nog, and Heath haven’t been impressive at all? With that said Fedor could not even finish Nog, or CC, and took it to decision…doesn’t that cause you to queston Fedor’s skills at all when people he struggled with are so unimpressive in the UFC? By the way why don’t you take a look at all of Fedor’s fights on sherdog, and take a peek at most of the people he has fought’s records, and you’ll wonder why they were put against someone as “great” as Fedor. He has not beatin any top notch fighters in an impressive fashion, and I consider cutting Heath, or submitting Mark Hunt as decent wins against questionable fighters. Randy’s resume is far more impressive. COUTURE ALL THE WAY.
impressive like when he got his ass whipped by josh barnett, the same barnett that got beat down by both cro cop and big nog, just a thought [/quote]
LoL Barnett is not in the UFC…yet. We all know that certain guys match up poorly with others. Barnett is a bad matchup for Couture, but Nog, and Crap Cop are not bad matchups for Randy.
Randy is racking up wins with the best in the world and looking better than he ever has.
Fedor has been fighting less challenging competition.
It’s only natural to start leaning towards Randy if they meet.
Regardless It’d be awesome to see Randy sweep the top ex Pride Heavyweights. Then retire. Can we only dream….?
[quote comment="136059"]Just to add.
I think all the mediocre and overrated comments come from the following “post-Pride” records which are very unimpressive at the very least
CC = 1-1 with a win over Eddie Sanchez
HH = 1-2 with a win over Brad Imes
FW = 0-1
Nog = 1-0, the only one with a winning record, but its against another Pride HW that he has already beat twice![/quote]
don’t forget
silva’s ass whipping over franklin
rampage’s ass whipping over lidell
that’s two belts in one year!
given another year pride fighters may have all the belts
[quote comment="135684"]I told you guys Randy was going to whoop his ass.
Fedor is still scared of the Natural.
And Rampage will whoop Dan’s ass,Shogun’s ass,and whoever else who wants the lhw belt.[/quote]
Wow you say Jackson would whoop “Shogun” Rua? What are you basing this on?
Oh wait you must be basing this statement on Shogun demolishing Rampage like he owed him drug money!!!
Would be a GREAT fight though…..but Rampage will whoop him?
Fedor is scared of Randy???
Hahahahahahahahaha, Fedor is a machine he isnt scared of nobody!He might only be affraid of 2 people, Chuck Norris and Mr. T….but who isnt affraid of those guys?
BigD do me a favor and log on to Youtube and check out some of RUA’s fights!
[quote comment="136200"][quote post="3148"]LordParrish: u seem to b an anoying lil brother type, who just wants to go against the grain n argue with people. I dont know how anyone that has seen Fedor fight can say such idiotic things.
Im such a huge Randy fan, and I am so impressed with him since comming out of retirement. On the other hand, I am a realist. I believe not only would Fedor beat Randy, but he will finish Randy. Still it would b the biggest fight ever and it would be competitive, but eventually Fedors advil-like-hands will dish out too much punishment for Randy to absorb. He has the ability to smother and overwhelm Randy as Randy did to gonzaga.
Randy is amazing, but Fedor is Fedor. Nuf said!
Ugh…We’re talking about heavyweights here John. And how can you deny that a few of PRIDE’s top heavyweights like CC, Nog, and Heath haven’t been impressive at all? With that said Fedor could not even finish Nog, or CC, and took it to decision…doesn’t that cause you to queston Fedor’s skills at all when people he struggled with are so unimpressive in the UFC? By the way why don’t you take a look at all of Fedor’s fights on sherdog, and take a peek at most of the people he has fought’s records, and you’ll wonder why they were put against someone as “great” as Fedor. He has not beatin any top notch fighters in an impressive fashion, and I consider cutting Heath, or submitting Mark Hunt as decent wins against questionable fighters. Randy’s resume is far more impressive. COUTURE ALL THE WAY.
impressive like when he got his ass whipped by josh barnett, the same barnett that got beat down by both cro cop and big nog, just a thought [/quote]
LoL Barnett is not in the UFC…yet. We all know that certain guys match up poorly with others. Barnett is a bad matchup for Couture, but Nog, and Crap Cop are not bad matchups for Randy.[/quote]
come on buddy, anyone at any time can beat anyone. put aside that pride vs ufc crap, their all great fighters. also there is not a fighter in the world that would want to fight mark hunt. 300 pounds and can kick a nat off a bulls balls with a head like stone. he is a bad match up for anyone he fights. i try to stay in the center when everyone starts talking ufc pride, but if you ever seen mark hunt fight the man has skills. can’t we all just get along
Randy made that Ganzaga slam look effortless. Almost like a WWE slam where they nod their head 1,2,3 GO, then the guy getting slammed jumps up, or their timing is off and start the count over.
[quote post="3148"]Just to add.
I think all the mediocre and overrated comments come from the following “post-Pride” records which are very unimpressive at the very least
CC = 1-1 with a win over Eddie Sanchez
HH = 1-2 with a win over Brad Imes
FW = 0-1
Nog = 1-0, the only one with a winning record, but its against another Pride HW that he has already beat twice!
don’t forget
silva’s ass whipping over franklin
rampage’s ass whipping over lidell
that’s two belts in one year!
given another year pride fighters may have all the belts [/quote]
Ugh…once again we are talking about heavyweights Jarod. PRIDE fighters taking belts in other weight classes does nothing to prove, or take anything away from PRIDE heavyweights. Also who cares about Mark Hunt lol? The only good fighter he has beaten (who is in his weight class) is Cro Cop, and that was by decision. Oh, and I realize anyone can beat anyone at anytime…flukes, and upsets always happen. Although on paper you have to admit Couture has proven himself by fighting harder competition more consistantly than Fedor. If you deny that then you are just being ignorant, and are one of the people who won’t get off Big Nog, and Cro Cops nuts by worshipping Fedor for beating them. A Fedor/Randy fight could easily go either way, but I’ll have to bet on Randy at this point.
Hey guys!!! Just wanting to say this argument is getting ridiculous!!! Randy is a great fighter…smart gameplans, amazing cardio, and plain guts. Fedor is also an amazing fighter, but because of his vast array of skills, has rarely been really tested. I would love to see this fight, b/c I don’t see fedor dominating randy……it would be a good fight for the fans, regardless of who wins. Also people look at losses far to much…. if a fighter never loses he is not fighting the right fights…everyone will lose….and on the end those losses may not mean much. For example…GG beat CC and Randy beat GG…does not give any indication of how Randy’s fight with CC would go….Pull your heads out of your asses…each fight is unique…everyone has diff strengths and weaknesses…and that’s why we watch….because anything can happen and often does!!!! SO…. lets hope the ufc continues to bring in all the talent so we can be entertained
couture gets knocked out twice buy a hyped up liddell thts great he has crappy record against not the best comp in the world pride fighters tave battled more than once in one night more than once lets see the candy assed ufc fighters do that lets see couture never get knocked out like feder and henderson lets lets see couture fight and do well in three weight classes like henderson.lets see henderson fight couture right now and see who wins henderson will beat jackson and hold three belts henderson is the second best fighter in the world behind feder henderson doesent just talk he backs it up pride has the best fighters in the world feder henderson shougun jackson nog barnett gomi and on and on
[quote comment="136242"][quote comment="135684"]I told you guys Randy was going to whoop his ass.
Fedor is still scared of the Natural.
And Rampage will whoop Dan’s ass,Shogun’s ass,and whoever else who wants the lhw belt.[/quote]
Wow you say Jackson would whoop “Shogun” Rua? What are you basing this on?
Oh wait you must be basing this statement on Shogun demolishing Rampage like he owed him drug money!!!
Would be a GREAT fight though…..but Rampage will whoop him?
Fedor is scared of Randy???
Hahahahahahahahaha, Fedor is a machine he isnt scared of nobody!He might only be affraid of 2 people, Chuck Norris and Mr. T….but who isnt affraid of those guys?
BigD do me a favor and log on to Youtube and check out some of RUA’s fights![/quote]
Please go watch Rampage’s fights against the Chute Boxe guys Wanderlei and Shogun. Then tell me if you still think he will whoop their ass. Rampage BIG 0-3 vs. Chute Boxe
[quote comment="136420"]couture gets knocked out twice buy a hyped up liddell thts great he has crappy record against not the best comp in the world pride fighters tave battled more than once in one night more than once lets see the candy assed ufc fighters do that lets see couture never get knocked out like feder and henderson lets lets see couture fight and do well in three weight classes like henderson.
pride has the best fighters in the world feder henderson shougun jackson nog barnett gomi and on and on[/quote]
Ummm, not any more. They are UFC guys now. Dude, I think Couture would have a tough fight against Fedor, but he might be the best strategical fighter in the world.
[quote comment="136432"][quote comment="136420"]couture gets knocked out twice buy a hyped up liddell thts great he has crappy record against not the best comp in the world pride fighters tave battled more than once in one night more than once lets see the candy assed ufc fighters do that lets see couture never get knocked out like feder and henderson lets lets see couture fight and do well in three weight classes like henderson.
pride has the best fighters in the world feder henderson shougun jackson nog barnett gomi and on and on[/quote]
Ummm, any more. Sorry I should say they all will be UFC guys now.
[quote comment="136324"][quote post="3148"]Just to add.
I think all the mediocre and overrated comments come from the following “post-Pride” records which are very unimpressive at the very least
CC = 1-1 with a win over Eddie Sanchez
HH = 1-2 with a win over Brad Imes
FW = 0-1
Nog = 1-0, the only one with a winning record, but its against another Pride HW that he has already beat twice!
don’t forget
silva’s ass whipping over franklin
rampage’s ass whipping over lidell
that’s two belts in one year!
given another year pride fighters may have all the belts [/quote]
Ugh…once again we are talking about heavyweights Jarod. PRIDE fighters taking belts in other weight classes does nothing to prove, or take anything away from PRIDE heavyweights. Also who cares about Mark Hunt lol? The only good fighter he has beaten (who is in his weight class) is Cro Cop, and that was by decision. Oh, and I realize anyone can beat anyone at anytime…flukes, and upsets always happen. Although on paper you have to admit Couture has proven himself by fighting harder competition more consistantly than Fedor. If you deny that then you are just being ignorant, and are one of the people who won’t get off Big Nog, and Cro Cops nuts by worshipping Fedor for beating them. A Fedor/Randy fight could easily go either way, but I’ll have to bet on Randy at this point.[/quote]
look i aint going to mess with anymore, but the same people a year ago was saying no pride fighters could compete with ufc and i just could not pass up a chance to stir some shit up. i know their are were great fighters in both in my opinion the top three heavyweight fighters are couture fedor and barnett not in any order, who would beat who i don’t know. my point is there were good fighters in both ufc and pride and take for instance a pride fighter coming over and fighting a ufc vet, ufc fighters do somethings better and different than pride and that could be a problem, again my opinion is that although not a great all around fighter mark hunt would be force to be delt with if he had fought in the ufc. there is no one as far as striking goes, as good as hunt in the ufc hands down
People its simple Chuck beat randy because chucks punch was too hard for his chin… if chuck can catch Randy believe me when i say Fedor will catch him too..
Game plan for Randy should be avoid fighting Fedor period…
Ohh and I’m not a Randy hater I just think that champions should retire before they get stomped on so that remembered as the champion who brutally got beat on their last time around..
[quote comment="136461"]People its simple Chuck beat randy because chucks punch was too hard for his chin… if chuck can catch Randy believe me when i say Fedor will catch him too..
Game plan for Randy should be avoid fighting Fedor period…
Ohh and I’m not a Randy hater I just think that champions should retire before they get stomped on so that remembered as the champion who brutally got beat on their last time around..[/quote]
Somewhat true, but what kind of true champion doesn’t want to fight the best fighters like Fedor? Randy just shows how much heart he really has in wanting to fight the best, and he doesn’t give a crap about going out on top. Good for Randy for wanting to fight Fedor. If Randy does win then that would add to his legend. If he doesn’t than big deal he lost to a better man that day, and will be respected for not fighting chumps.
[quote comment="136215"][quote comment="136059"]Just to add.
I think all the mediocre and overrated comments come from the following “post-Pride” records which are very unimpressive at the very least
CC = 1-1 with a win over Eddie Sanchez
HH = 1-2 with a win over Brad Imes
FW = 0-1
Nog = 1-0, the only one with a winning record, but its against another Pride HW that he has already beat twice![/quote]
don’t forget
silva’s ass whipping over franklin
rampage’s ass whipping over lidell
that’s two belts in one year!
given another year pride fighters may have all the belts[/quote]
HW not MH or LHW,
but anyway, I will give you Rampage but I dont see Silva as a Pride guy, not even a 1/4 of his fights have been in Pride.
and I honestly dont think a “Pride-guy” will ever get the LW or WW belts. so you got LHW, which is fine. I personally feel the LHW Title is going to be like a hot potatoe with all the new talent that has come to the division.
[quote post="3148"]People its simple Chuck beat randy because chucks punch was too hard for his chin… if chuck can catch Randy believe me when i say Fedor will catch him too..
Game plan for Randy should be avoid fighting Fedor period…
Ohh and I’m not a Randy hater I just think that champions should retire before they get stomped on so that remembered as the champion who brutally got beat on their last time around..
Somewhat true, but what kind of true champion doesn’t want to fight the best fighters like Fedor? Randy just shows how much heart he really has in wanting to fight the best, and he doesn’t give a crap about going out on top. Good for Randy for wanting to fight Fedor. If Randy does win then that would add to his legend. If he doesn’t than big deal he lost to a better man that day, and will be respected for not fighting chumps. [/quote]
Hey Lord Parish after reading what you had too say I agree with you 100%.. I just wasnt thinkin about it like that..That was some good stuff..
[quote comment="136242"][quote comment="135684"]I told you guys Randy was going to whoop his ass.
Fedor is still scared of the Natural.
And Rampage will whoop Dan’s ass,Shogun’s ass,and whoever else who wants the lhw belt.[/quote]
Wow you say Jackson would whoop “Shogun” Rua? What are you basing this on?
Oh wait you must be basing this statement on Shogun demolishing Rampage like he owed him drug money!!!
Would be a GREAT fight though…..but Rampage will whoop him?
Fedor is scared of Randy???
Hahahahahahahahaha, Fedor is a machine he isnt scared of nobody!He might only be affraid of 2 people, Chuck Norris and Mr. T….but who isnt affraid of those guys?
BigD do me a favor and log on to Youtube and check out some of RUA’s fights![/quote]
I have seen all of Shogun’s fights and especially the one where he whooped rampage’s ass,and the two against Silva.
Rampage skills has gotten a whole lot better kind of like what Randy is going through now.
I see RAMPAGE and RANDY dominating thier divisions for a long time.
Fedor will lose by KO in round 1 if he ever fights Randy.
I meant to qoute Steve.
IT SUCKS!!! The UFC will not sign Fedor they will give us the Nog vs Randy, much like Jardine vs Lidell, I have no interest in this fight since the Nog squeak by Hearing(why the hell Hearing didn’t smash em when he was down????) I was not impressed.
SIGN FEDOR!!!!!!!
GIVE HIM WHATEVER IT TAKES!!!!!
JUST THIS ONE FIGHT!!!!!
$500,000. THAT WOULD GET IT DONE!!!!
If Randy gets the same Minotauro that fought HH, he will wipe his ass with Nogueira
[quote post="3148"]He needs to suck it up, hes an excellent fighter who is currently undefeated, one loss would not change that.[/quote]
Undefeated and a loss wouldn’t change that….
OOOOOOOOOOKKKK
[quote post="3148"]I’m tired of hearing Fedor is the greatest fighter in the world. Don’t get me wrong, he’s a badass, but I think Randy will give him all he can handle and then some. he couldn’t finish big nog, who is the UFC’s newest HW stepping stone. When Dana made the big announcement for Nog, I was like so what. Granted he did dec. fat ass no talent Heath Herring, the third time he beat Heath, he will never have a chance to win the HW title. Fedor also beat Cro Cop in a close fight. Cro Cop being that tall Croation with an eggshell chin that Gabe Gonzaga beat the total piss out of before being prematurly stood up, then he went ahead and knocked his head into the nose bleed seats. On a fluke of course, as a few retards on this blog have pointed out. On a fluke, gabe took him down, manhandled him, then almost killed him with a high kick, man I wish I had Gabe’s luck. I think Fedor should have to fight someone in the UFC to prove himself before he fights Randy. Let him fight a three round bore fest with Nog again, then let Randy embarass him. I really do like Fedor, I’m just a little pissed about one or two morons who are trying to discredit 44 year old Randy Couture’s ability because he beat a nobody like GG who’s only big win was a fluke domination over Cro Crop. [/quote]
Very well said James, I to think Fedor is a beast,but I think he will meet his match(es)in the UFC ,namely Randy.
[quote post="3148"]If Randy gets the same Minotauro that fought HH, he will wipe his ass with Nogueira [/quote]
Nog better pick his game way up, because HH is a little bit better than Brad Imes, who?, exactly.
[quote post="3148"]Randy is calling out Fedor, that shows what kind of man Randy is, 44 years old and calling out the best fighter in the world, absolutely no fear. Whats Fedor afraid of? why the fuck does he want to fight UFC losers first? I definitely question that logic, hes the #1 ranked HW in the world, I say prove it, NOW BEFORE RANDY RETIRES!
I’d be willing to bet that Dana White is thinking the exact same thing…he wants to add to Randy’s legend with a Fedor fight, and I guarantee he wants to get that fight going asap so Randy doesn’t get any older…not that his age seems to matter lol. [/quote]
Ya,Fedor better hurry up ,because Randy keeps getting better with age ,buy the time he is 50 he’ll be way to good for Fedor lol.
[quote post="3148"]Randy is racking up wins with the best in the world and looking better than he ever has.
Fedor has been fighting less challenging competition.
It’s only natural to start leaning towards Randy if they meet.
Regardless It’d be awesome to see Randy sweep the top ex Pride Heavyweights. Then retire. Can we only dream….? [/quote]
I seriously don’t think this is out of the question, GG is CC and Big Nog in one package. The only problem is Vera will get a shot at Randy after he beats Sylvia, and no disrespect to Randy, but Vera will win. Ok, let me have it.
[quote post="3148"]impressive like when he got his ass whipped by josh barnett, the same barnett that got beat down by both cro cop and big nog, just a thought [/quote]
Impressive like Beating down GG who beat down CC. Randy is way better than when he fought a JUICED UP JOSH. If Josh comes to the UFC he’s going to have to lay of the steriods and there goes 20 lbs of muscle and a shitload of strength. Randy fixed the big boy problem. Tim fights at 280 lbs and GG 252 lbs ,see No Problem. Just another thought.
[quote post="3148"]People its simple Chuck beat randy because chucks punch was too hard for his chin… if chuck can catch Randy believe me when i say Fedor will catch him too..
Game plan for Randy should be avoid fighting Fedor period…
Ohh and I’m not a Randy hater I just think that champions should retire before they get stomped on so that remembered as the champion who brutally got beat on their last time around.. [/quote]
It’s not that simple, you could look at it another way ,like if Lindland can split Fedor’s face open in 4 seconds and get him in the clinch with underhooks than Randy could do the same. Randy is alot stronger than Lindland so when he dumps you on your head he ends up on top. Lindland is a little skinny armed MW and he lasted 3 minutes. Why should Randy retire when he is the best he has ever been and he is still winning. I think champions should beat the guy (Fedor)that most think is the best and go out with the legacy of the gratest, undisputed HW of all time. Fedor should start thinking about his legacy and get in the UFC now.
[quote comment="136712"][quote post="3148"]impressive like when he got his ass whipped by josh barnett, the same barnett that got beat down by both cro cop and big nog, just a thought [/quote]
Impressive like Beating down GG who beat down CC. Randy is way better than when he fought a JUICED UP JOSH. If Josh comes to the UFC he’s going to have to lay of the steriods and there goes 20 lbs of muscle and a shitload of strength. Randy fixed the big boy problem. Tim fights at 280 lbs and GG 252 lbs ,see No Problem. Just another thought.[/quote]
we can do this all day long, impressive like rampage’s beat down of chuck and silva’s beat of rampage and cro cops beat down of silva and chucks beat down of coutore. now what does all that mean? absolutly nothing! just one last thought
[quote comment="135220"]Let’s not get all worked up over Randy Couture. He beat Gonzaga big deal- we all now know the fight with Cro Cop was a fluke, and Gonzaga is not a champion. Couture also beat Sylvia- another non champion (I am in better shape then Tim Sylvia and I haven’t worked out in 2 years. Now we are talking about Fedor the greatest fighter on the planet. Couture will at best survive five rounds and lose by unanamous decision. Fedor wil walk right through Couture, Liddel, Cro-Cop again, Big Nog, Silva, and whoever else- Fedor is an old school russian ass kicker- the guy chops wood all day for his workout routine.[/quote]
smartest comment i’ve read so far. i’m sorry, but unless you plan on entering the ring armed, fedor is going to walk out the winner.
well said gord
[quote comment="135220"]Let’s not get all worked up over Randy Couture. He beat Gonzaga big deal- we all now know the fight with Cro Cop was a fluke, and Gonzaga is not a champion. Couture also beat Sylvia- another non champion (I am in better shape then Tim Sylvia and I haven’t worked out in 2 years. Now we are talking about Fedor the greatest fighter on the planet. Couture will at best survive five rounds and lose by unanamous decision. Fedor wil walk right through Couture, Liddel, Cro-Cop again, Big Nog, Silva, and whoever else- Fedor is an old school russian ass kicker- the guy chops wood all day for his workout routine.[/quote]
i agree with this guy fedor is one crazy Russian not to be messed with
[quote post="3148"]impressive like when he got his ass whipped by josh barnett, the same barnett that got beat down by both cro cop and big nog, just a thought
Impressive like Beating down GG who beat down CC. Randy is way better than when he fought a JUICED UP JOSH. If Josh comes to the UFC he’s going to have to lay of the steriods and there goes 20 lbs of muscle and a shitload of strength. Randy fixed the big boy problem. Tim fights at 280 lbs and GG 252 lbs ,see No Problem. Just another thought.
we can do this all day long, impressive like rampage’s beat down of chuck and silva’s beat of rampage and cro cops beat down of silva and chucks beat down of coutore. now what does all that mean? absolutly nothing! just one last thought [/quote]
Jarod you missed the point of my MMAth lesson, or you wouldn’t have gave me one. Just trying to show the same thing you’re trying to show me.
randy might have a slim chance against fedor. he was awesome against gonzaga to be sure , but while he looked good before the takedown that broke big nose’s nose that still has to be seen as good fortune smiling on him. even with blood running down the inside of his throat gonzaga seemed to have some deadly tools in his arsenal.
and,
just as GG vs. crocop was really over after the elbows (unless CC could have made it to round 2 and recovered), this fight was only downhill for GG after the nose break. – all to say if they fought 10 x (things as they were last nite) – i can’t imagine GG losing everytime. And I’m not taking a shred away from Mr. Couture – just saying that Gonzaga seems like a smart talented deadly elite fighter – and congrats to Randy – but it wasn’t Gonzaga’s night.
there are moments when a fight can turn. maybe if randy got a TD like Lindland did against Fedor he’d come out on top and get somewhere (especially in the Octagon).
Maybe another fighter besides Fujita would have finished off a wobbly Fedor…
maybe another night GG wouldn’t have grabbed Crocop’s foot before suffering punishment from deadly kicks…..
so congrats to Randy he deserves every shred of praise but Gonzaga was not as outclassed as it may have seen. Although we’ll probably never see a rematch due to age.
That dirty greco roman boxing thing of couture’s would be interesting to see against fedor – although i imagine that fedor would find a way to change the fight if it wasn’t going his way. I wonder what Gonzaga might have done differently against Couture to get out of that nasty clinch? try to take it down? even going down in a the less favorable position would have been more favorable…I think that he came n following a gameplan to keep distance – which sort of makes sense – but I feel like the super elite like Fedor are able to improvise and be in the moment , and use their well roundedness to make it their fight
i know its off topic but i disagree with any1 who beleives that fedor is the p4p champ. A p4p champ is someone who fights in different weight classes. Fedor fights at heavyweight only and he may be the best fighter in the world but not p4p. the p4p champ is hendo hands down. when anyone holds belts in 2 diff weight classes that means they are a p4p great. Look at pretty boy floyd (i know it’s boxing but still) he holds/held belts at welterweight junior welterweight and junior middleweight, and he is the p4p champ in boxing. Fedor would have to fight in another weight class in ordered to be considered a p4p champ.
fedor should fight woman too
to be considered all gender champ -oh, hermaprodites – i forgot.
Fedor vs Brock…….HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
[quote post="3148"]Let’s not get all worked up over Randy Couture. He beat Gonzaga big deal- we all now know the fight with Cro Cop was a fluke, and Gonzaga is not a champion. Couture also beat Sylvia- another non champion (I am in better shape then Tim Sylvia and I haven’t worked out in 2 years. Now we are talking about Fedor the greatest fighter on the planet. Couture will at best survive five rounds and lose by unanamous decision. Fedor wil walk right through Couture, Liddel, Cro-Cop again, Big Nog, Silva, and whoever else- Fedor is an old school russian ass kicker- the guy chops wood all day for his workout routine.[/quote]
[quote post="3148"]smartest comment i’ve read so far. i’m sorry, but unless you plan on entering the ring armed, fedor is going to walk out the winner.[/quote]
Fedor is GREAT, but no unbeatable. There is NO ONE in this sport that is unbeatable. Tell you the truth, and the current point in time, I give Randy the best chance at beating him. If Fedor comes to the UFC and fights in at least 5 fights – I believe that he WILL LOSE 1 of them.
[quote comment="137826"]fedor should fight woman too
to be considered all gender champ -oh, hermaprodites – i forgot.[/quote]
lol
[quote comment="137602"][quote post="3148"]impressive like when he got his ass whipped by josh barnett, the same barnett that got beat down by both cro cop and big nog, just a thought
Impressive like Beating down GG who beat down CC. Randy is way better than when he fought a JUICED UP JOSH. If Josh comes to the UFC he’s going to have to lay of the steriods and there goes 20 lbs of muscle and a shitload of strength. Randy fixed the big boy problem. Tim fights at 280 lbs and GG 252 lbs ,see No Problem. Just another thought.
we can do this all day long, impressive like rampage’s beat down of chuck and silva’s beat of rampage and cro cops beat down of silva and chucks beat down of coutore. now what does all that mean? absolutly nothing! just one last thought [/quote]
Jarod you missed the point of my MMAth lesson, or you wouldn’t have gave me one. Just trying to show the same thing you’re trying to show me.[/quote]
just wondering if anyone else see’s it, i am with you buddy and i figured you knew where i was going with this.
if randy fought fedor how might it play out?
what gameplan would Randy use? i think the dirty boxong greco clinch might be useful – but not as useful as against GG. GnP maybe….
I’m trying to think when Fedor was ever in trouble on the ground though. …
hmmm.
arona looked great but that was not MMA….
Some say against Hunt – but I think that he wasin trouble – just being smart and letting hunt blanket him precisely ’cause he wasn’t really in trouble – and thus he was keeping hunt’s deadliest weapon – KO fists – and best defence (granite chin) out of of the picture.
Randy is wise though but I’m not sure how he’d approach Fedor.
His last 2 fights have been brilliant in that he used both punches in stand up intermitently with tying up the opponent clinch or standing.
If he just boxed /kickboxed w. Sylvia or GG he’d probably have lost, but his stand up was threatening enough that it worried the opponents enough to be open to clinch or chute.
I wouldn’t be surprised if arandy uses steroids.
I dn’t actuallly care although I wonder. I mean i’m surprised that he won a top level fight after 40 yrs of age! so i’d believe it if it was proven that he didn’t use steroids.
Not that I trust the UFD ’s neutrality in the matter – they turn it into a blood thirsty gladiator environment where fans boo if there is no blood – only amazing MMA skill
[quote post="3148"]I wouldn’t be surprised if arandy uses steroids.
I dn’t actuallly care although I wonder. I mean i’m surprised that he won a top level fight after 40 yrs of age! so i’d believe it if it was proven that he didn’t use steroids.[/quote]
You contadict yourself 100% in this statement. I would never “bet my house” on any fight, like posters here often say they would, but I’ll tell you this. I’d bet my house that Randy The Natural Couture is NOT on steroids.
thats pretty bold betting your house on the fact that randy couture didnt use steroids and im not saying he did at all i believe he didnt but i do you in fact have a house to put up at all
[quote comment="135220"]Let’s not get all worked up over Randy Couture. He beat Gonzaga big deal- we all now know the fight with Cro Cop was a fluke, and Gonzaga is not a champion. Couture also beat Sylvia- another non champion (I am in better shape then Tim Sylvia and I haven’t worked out in 2 years. Now we are talking about Fedor the greatest fighter on the planet. Couture will at best survive five rounds and lose by unanamous decision. Fedor wil walk right through Couture, Liddel, Cro-Cop again, Big Nog, Silva, and whoever else- Fedor is an old school russian ass kicker- the guy chops wood all day for his workout routine.[/quote]
I you even watched the fight between Cro cop and Fedor you would clearly know he DIDNT SIMPLY WALK THROUGH HIM, as a mattter of fact thats his pic after the cro cop fight… And all the Champs RC has beaten were not GIVEN the belt they also had to earn it. There for RC has beaten champs and defended against very tough opponents. Fedor is a very over-rated fighter. Yes he has lots of wins and his MMA Record looks decent but alot of his wins were not agains champions. UFC holds the ELITE fighters envolved in MMA and all other MMA organizations. Fedor will bow to RC. Period.
Dana if you screw this up I shall will you to smack your self in the face with my “DONT BE A DUMB@$$” mind control powers.
Jesus, this has got to be THE most lucrative event EVER. Champion vs Champion II: Couture vs. Fedor plus Silva vs. Liddell!! Watching these mega fights, even if they weren’t on the same card, would be like watching the Arc of the Covenant open- IT WILL MAKE YOUR FREAKIN’ HEAD EXPLODE. Well, I don’t know about the whole making your head expload part… but at the very least your eyes would melt. ^__^
Matt keeps referring to randy losing to chuck well I was a state champion wrestler and cutting 10 pounds is a lot to move down a class well randy had to cut 20 pounds to fight chuck and it’s not like he has a lot of fat to lose so he lost strength but nobody seems to mention that or maybe nobody ever competed in a physical sport like wrestling I don’t know but please let chuck move up to heavyweight where randy is at his strongest and no more chucky.
this is not a hollywood movie wth old guy winning over bad Russian guy.Randy does not stand a chanse against Fedor.He did beat Gonzaga,who knocked out Cro cop (it was lucky punch.if they fight again probably Cro cop would kick his ass)Sorry but Randy does not stand chance at all winning over Fedor.
Thank GOD some one else thinks Gonzaga’s victory over Mirko was what it was: A FLUKE!!!!!!!!! Just like when Kevin Randleman knocked him out- it was avenged, I think this one will be too.
Fedor vs Couture
Knockout power: Fedor
Technical striking: Either (Fedor out struck Meaty Thighs and Randy outstriked Iceman and Big Tim)
Clinch ‘n’ Pound: Randy Couture
Clinch (take downs): Fedor (he always takes ppl down from the clinch, I have never seen him shoot)
Take downs: The Natural (again, Ive never seen Fedor shoot)
Pressure/fast fight pace: Fedor (his pace is incredible, see how he beat Goodridge and Zulu)
Strategy/game plan: Both (e.g. Fedor vs Meaty Thighs and Natural vs Gonzaga)
Strength: Fedor, definetly
Power/Explosiveness: Fedor
Size advantage: Fedor
Perseverance/Heart: Both
Chin: Probably Fedor (Couture KO’s X2 by Iceman come into mind)
Ground control:
Submissions: Fedor
Submission defense: Fedor (Randy has been submitted)
GnP: Mr Emelianenko (his trademark)
Upset factor: Definetly Randy
I cant wait to possibly see a Randy Fedor matchup but does anybody actually believe Silvia or Gonzaga are any where near the opponent Emelianenko is?Seriously?Damn check Youtube and watch his fights again.I personally dont buy into anyone being invincible but that dude makes a damn good argument for it!It sucks that he’s tryna get all the cash he can from UFC if thats whats goin on .Cuz honestly as happy I am that Dana White has gotten so much talent brought into UFC these days he is still startin to look more and more like the white Don King.You never know though about the whole Couture Fedor fight cuz mark my words if(ha ha)Chuck beats no jaw Jardine, guarantee hes gonna get it on with Wandy come Dec.So dreams might actually come true,sometimes.
I cant wait to see this fight and once and for all see who the best in the world is.In my opinon Fedor is. Everytime I see him fight I like him more.He is a very complete MMA fighter.But after all I have seen this year I cant tell you what the outcome will be.I love Randy,who doesnt? But this is a dificult fight for him.