UFC 74: “Respect” is in the books and we just want to pass along some final thoughts before we set our sights on UFC 75: “Champion vs. Champion” on September 8.
First off, hats off to Clay Guida — or perhaps the ringside judges — for finally getting this one right. Or should I say, hats off two the two judges who appeared to be watching the fight.
The other guy?
Who knows, maybe he had to take a leak during the bout — there’s no other explanation for giving Marcus Aurelio two rounds in that one.
Guida always puts on a show and will never be outhustled — he even sprinted up the stairs for the weigh-in. He’s an in-your-face kinda cat and the crowd loves him for it. Let’s get him on a main card because this guy is so easy to market … and the UFC just doesn’t seem to do enough of it.
Maybe it’s the hair.
So is Frank Mir finally back? Too early to tell, I guess, but notching a decisive submission win over Antoni Hardonk is certainly a step in the right direction.
Ryan Jensen came out guns blazing in his Octagon debut and for a few minutes it seemed like he was going to take out one of the rising stars in the 185 pound division, Thales Leites.
The Brazilian was just too crafty, however, and executed a picture-perfect armbar to end the fight. Look forward to seeing both of these guys compete again … and it wouldn’t surprise me if we see Leites up against stiffer competition.
Nate Marquardt is looking for a fight and a showdown with Leites might just be a very dynamic match up. What do you think, Joe Silva?
Oh Canada! Patrick Cote pulled off the upset of the night with his first round stoppage of rising talent, Kendall Grove. No one saw that coming, especially after his dismal UFC performances leading up to last night.
I want to see him back that up the next time he goes out, however, before I start buying into the former The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 4 finalist.
Tough loss for “Da Spyder,” but he should bounce back from this latest setback.
There’s a few people out there who feel Renato “Babalu” Sobral was justified for refusing to release the choke on David Heath, which resulted in Heath going night-night for a few minutes.
I’m not one of them — even if Heath was wearing a t-shirt emblazoned with the mugshot from the Brazilian’s recent arrest.
It was classless, distasteful and downright dangerous. Hopefully, the punishment fits the crime. And I’m not talking about a $25,000 slap on the wrist.
Joe Stevenson looked like he could have went 10 more rounds with Kurt Pellegrino. For a guy who is sometimes questioned about his lack of conditioning, “Daddy” put all those doubts to rest last night.
This was a very good fight from bell-to-bell. “Batman” turned in a solid performance but just didn’t have the answers for Stevenson’s well-rounded attack.
So will we see Stevenson and BJ Penn lock horns later this year? That all depends on the Sean Sherk steroid appeal, of course, but it’d be a back-and-forth battle without a doubt.
In fact, I’d rather see Stevenson versus Penn rather then Sherk versus Penn. Call me crazy.
At some point in the second round of the lightweight fight between Roger Huerta and Alberto Crane, I realized that the egg on my face, as Jesse Holland likes to put, was an entire omelet.
He demonstrated fantastic submission defense against one of the most talented Brazilian jiu-jitsu specialists in the UFC. Crane is so damn technical … it’s just a shame that he was not prepared to fight for the full 15 minutes.
Going into the second and third rounds he was dog tired. And Huerta didn’t even look like he broke a sweat. “El Matador” has a knack for winning fights. Now let’s just see him do it against a top-five guy. Or, Frank Edgar at UFC 78 in November.
Now that’s a fight.
Georges St. Pierre put on a clinic against Josh Koscheck, outwrestling perhaps the best wrestler in the organization. He controlled every second of that fight it seemed. I’m still unclear how that dude makes the 170-pound limit — he’s a monster.
Kudos to Koscheck for hanging in there and negating the submission attempt that seemed like it would have been a fight-ender if St. Pierre sunk it in. He showed that he can defend and fight well from his back — a position in which he rarely finds himself.
He’ll be back … how about Josh Burkman at UFC 77? Hayato “Mach” Sakurai or Karo Parisyan wouldn’t be bad, either.
For St. Pierre, he’s got a date with the winner of the December title fight between champ Matt Serra and former champ Matt Hughes. Word on the street is that it’s very possible that it could happen in Canada sometime in early 2008.
Lookout.
And what’s there left to say that hasn’t already been said about Randy Couture? That guy is from a different planet. He even ate a monster head kick in round three and it didn’t even seem to phase him.
Put simply, Couture puts together solid gameplans and executes them to perfection.
He took Tim Sylvia out of the fight early with the overhand right, and then did the same to Gabriel Gonzaga when he mangled the nose of “Napao.” Both fighters were not the same when these things happened.
“The Natural” probably has about two or three more good fights left in him. And the UFC will more than likely throw him to the lions with heavy hitters such as Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, Mirko Cro Cop and maybe even Fedor Emelianenko if the Russian cyborg signs with the organization.
He’ll probably be the underdog in those fights too, but at this rate, does it even matter? The dude is money right now.
Overall, UFC 74 was a great show … as advertised. Upsets, controversy, redemption and another improbable win from the aging UFC Hall of Famer.
We can’t wait to see it all happen again in just a few weeks. The 205-pound unification bout between PRIDE FC champion Dan Henderson and UFC Light Heavyweight Champion Rampage Jackson is going to be a classic.
To be honest, I’d pay $40 smackers just to watch that fight alone. Oh, wait, it’s free on SpikeTV.
Life is good.
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Well, well, well…..I wonder how all the people that tore into GSP after his loss to Serra feel now? Crow never tastes good no matter how well you season it
He acted like an ass after he lost that fight.
I agree about what was said about Crane. He really had no business being in there. He had nice Jui Jitsu skills with a few nice attempts but when he was on his feet, he was absolutely nothing. Looked like a zombie in rounds 2 and 3. I say, if you are fighting in the UFC , you need to be prepared to go past the first round. If you cant do that, you really shouldnt be in there, great BJJ skills or not. Put Crane in there against Guida and he woulda gassed out 30 seconds into the first round.
Patrick Cote impressed me very much. I didnt know he had that much fight in him. I am very eager to see whom his next opponent will be. I definitely will keep an eye on him in the future.
I didnt get to see what Babulu did, but from what I hear, that is just disgraceful, and its people like him that have no sportsmanship, or class, and are very ignorant. I hope they do fine him. After hearing that, I wouldnt care to really ever see him fight again.
As for St Pierre, everything about that fight went as expected from me, even him schooling Koz in wrestling. I really dont like how Koz is so defensive all the time, if he was more aggressive like he was in the first 20 seconds of the fight, I would be a little more afraid of him. Im very happy with the outcome here.
Randy Couture is just the man. He can beat anyone you throw in front him. Gonzaga threw some NASTY high kicks though. I swear they looked so hard and crisp, I would have thought they came from Cro Cop himself. One landed , Randy barely got a hand up to absorb a fraction of it. But Randy is Randy. His bob and weave boxing technique is so awesome to watch against these monsters that he goes up against. Its like cheering for the rabbit to outsmart the fox, and yet some how he does, then he sends the fox off a cliff!!!!! Randy “The Rabbit” Couture. Fight of the night!
Also the Stevenson fight kind of went as expected too. Stevenson really likes to go for those guillatines. I think he attempts at least 3-4 of those every fight, if he hasnt sank one deep enough to make you tap already.
[quote comment=”135516″]Also the Stevenson fight kind of went as expected too. Stevenson really likes to go for those guillatines. I think he attempts at least 3-4 of those every fight, if he hasnt sank one deep enough to make you tap already.[/quote]
I just added that. Slipped my mind.
Josh Koscheck
I didnt get to see what Babulu did, but from what I hear, that is just disgraceful, and its people like him that have no sportsmanship, or class, and are very ignorant. I hope they do fine him. After hearing that, I wouldnt care to really ever see him fight again.
Man I know I have said a lot about this but man I can’t take it. You haven’t even seen the fight! So let me guess.you could care less if you see B.J. Penn fight again? He hated Pulver and defintly held on a few seconds longer after the tap. I even remember a comentator laughing about it if I remember correctly…something like he made pulver feel every second he could. But B.J is loved and Renato is not so now he’s the bad guy? Are you telling me you don’t want to see a remacth sho Gun vs Sobral? He’s no randy Couture forsure but he’s never pretended to be and you are going to far for a fight you never saw.
G.S.PWNED
Gsp is maybe the best mma fighter in the world. This is kinda of crazy but Randy seems to be better fit for the heavyweights his graplling, underhooks, dirty boxing, & fast pace just overwhelms the big guys. I dont think Randy would have as much success right now in the Lhw division with Liddell, Rampage, Shogun, Hendo, Wanderlai. Also I cant wait to see Roger Huerta in the octagon with a top 5 guy I just love that guy. Too bad about Babulas poor sportsmanship b/c I was happy to see him get back on the winning track hes fun to watch.l
[quote comment=”135533″]I didnt get to see what Babulu did, but from what I hear, that is just disgraceful, and its people like him that have no sportsmanship, or class, and are very ignorant. I hope they do fine him. After hearing that, I wouldnt care to really ever see him fight again.
Man I know I have said a lot about this but man I can’t take it. You haven’t even seen the fight! So let me guess.you could care less if you see B.J. Penn fight again? He hated Pulver and defintly held on a few seconds longer after the tap. I even remember a comentator laughing about it if I remember correctly…something like he made pulver feel every second he could. But B.J is loved and Renato is not so now he’s the bad guy? Are you telling me you don’t want to see a remacth sho Gun vs Sobral? He’s no randy Couture forsure but he’s never pretended to be and you are going to far for a fight you never saw.[/quote]
Well, he said Heath deserved it? What did Heath do to deserve being unconcious, when the fight is already over? And yes I still do love Bj Penn. Hee Hee. (At least he didnt make Pulver go nighty after it was over)
I thought it was pretty sweet that Huerta used the big screen to elbow Crane in the face. Although I felt Huerta should have finished him way before that. He got skillz, just no finishing moves really. Oh well , a win is a win.
Can anyone tell me what GSP said after the fight was over? I couldnt hear the TV. The crowd was too loud. I saw D. White smile at something though.
[quote comment=”135533″]I didnt get to see what Babulu did, but from what I hear, that is just disgraceful, and its people like him that have no sportsmanship, or class, and are very ignorant. I hope they do fine him. After hearing that, I wouldnt care to really ever see him fight again.
Man I know I have said a lot about this but man I can’t take it. You haven’t even seen the fight! So let me guess.you could care less if you see B.J. Penn fight again? He hated Pulver and defintly held on a few seconds longer after the tap. I even remember a comentator laughing about it if I remember correctly…something like he made pulver feel every second he could. But B.J is loved and Renato is not so now he’s the bad guy? Are you telling me you don’t want to see a remacth sho Gun vs Sobral? He’s no randy Couture forsure but he’s never pretended to be and you are going to far for a fight you never saw.[/quote]
B.J didn’t choke Jens out if anything it appeared more as a statement to the audience. I don’t really care, if your stepping in their to fight, you’re taking the chance of being put to sleep in ways far worse than a choke e.i GSP, Cro Cop
Chuck Liddell. Whatever I’m sure he won’t do it again unless the guy is rolling in it
[quote comment=”135554″]Can anyone tell me what GSP said after the fight was over? I couldnt hear the TV. The crowd was too loud. I saw D. White smile at something though.[/quote]
St. Pierre asked Dana for a card scheduled in Canada at some point.
Honestly that judge that ruled the fight for Aurilia should be imprisoned or at least fired at the very minimum. I mean there wasn’t even close. How do you ever win a round by just backing up and throwing week jabs the whole fight? I feel bad for this guy he clearly beat Tyson Griffin and gets hosed in that decision then in a obvious 30-27 win some ref rules the fight for Aurilia. Correct me if I’m wrong but I thought the judge that ruled the win actually gave Aurilia a 29-27 win and the only way to arive at that score would be that Aurilia had a 10-8 a 10-9 and a 9-10 making this an even greater crime. Anyways Guidia is a very exciting and talented figher and I wish him better luck with the judges in the future.
No wonder they didnt show the Sobral fight. I wanted to see that or the Mir fight.
well i hope babalu will be fines…but i wish they wont suspend him..id like to watch him fight again…i mean that dude has some sick bjj..
anyone heard from kos after the fight?talk about his “exciting strategy”…
UFCMania, great post… You write so elequently, I wish I had talent like that. Jesse Holland is great too. This isnt my first time writing here or anything but I just thought Id let you guys know that you both kick ass. Keep up the good work
C War,
Heath was wearing a T Shirt that had Babalu’s Mug Shot on it.
Thats low, he didn’t have to take a shot at his personal life. A second or 2 more and Pulver would have been toast too, I think the only reason heath blacked out so fast was that he had lost so much blood. Watch the fight..go to mmaplayground.com and then go to viedos and click UFC and you can’t miss it. REnato is so skilled man and it’s not like heath didn’t provoke it. It;s like the ingstagator rule in hockey.I wish they had shown this fight,it’s great BJJ and ground and pound at it’s finest.
And last I heard this was MMA not some sissy thingamabob.
Hey Mania, I called that Leites Submission of the night eh? Told you that armbar and that fight was a beauty.
This was a fantastic card, and I am so excited for UFC 75, UFN 11, UFC 76 all in one month! (not to mention other MMA Organzations in Sept!)
Mania we have not had a reward game lately, I think the last one was the inspiration thing, where they guy won with the Clay Guida thing, we should do something for UFC 75 within that regard.
=p
Patrick Cote landing a amazing right on Grove, and Grove was winning the fight up untill that exchange, if anybody truely thinks Patrick Cote is he face of the division.. ey ey ey.
GSP is not the best MMA fighter in the world today, I will still take Fedor over him, any time, any day. Gsp might be the most gifted in that division, but his mental state still has to be questioned. I don’t care he walked through Koscheck, that was one fight, where will his head be when he fights Hughes or Serra? When he wins the championship when he fights an opponent.. where will his head be?
Overall Great night of fights, possibly the best card of this year.
BUT UFC 75 has not happened yet! AND ITS FREE!!
[quote comment=”135599″]Gsp might be the most gifted in that division, but his mental state still has to be questioned. I don’t care he walked through Koscheck, that was one fight, where will his head be when he fights Hughes or Serra? When he wins the championship when he fights an opponent.. where will his head be?[/quote]
His mental health was only questionable in one fight… how about all of his impressive performances against notables such as BJ Penn, Hughes and Karo. The Serra fight was a fluke. He proved that last night
What are u talking about NC-17? How will his head be when he fights Serra or Hughes? Did u already forget 2 fights ago when GSP destroyed Hughes? All this talk about him having a weak mental state is retarted. Just because he’s actually a nice guy and not an ass like Koz and Hughes doesn’t mean he’s week mentally actually might mean he’s stronger because he doesn’t have to talk crap. I like how everyone is riding the Serra bandwagon after 1 lucky punch. I would love to see Sera beat Hughes as I hate Hughes but come on Serrra is barely a top 10 welterweight. I’d say GSP, Hughes, Koz, Diego, Karo, Berkman, Penn, and Fitch are all better than Serra so maybe he is 10th best.
I shouldnt say “mental health.” but you guys know what i mean
who else wants to see Huerta v Guida
[quote comment=”135622″]who else wants to see Huerta v Guida[/quote]
I want to see Roger Huerta or Clay Guida vs. Frank Edgar or Nate Diaz.
huerta v guida olease put this together and soon
I agree, even though two of my favorite fighters finished with loses, the card was EXCELLENT. I’m very pleased with the Couture/Gonzaga fight. The last high profile UFC fight was the Liddell/Jackson fight, and that lasted about 30 seconds. Maybe UFC 74 earned MMA some new fans? (Who cares either way, right?)
I’m also sooo happy I’ve found this site where there is always active, intelligent, respectful discussion of the UFC and MMA in general!
Thanks!
[quote post=”3152″]who else wants to see Huerta v Guida
I want to see Roger Huerta or Clay Guida vs. Frank Edgar or Nate Diaz.[/quote]
I want to see Huerta vs Nate diaz for some reason. I think Huerta could take him. There’s just so many damn good fighters in 155.
Gsp will beat whoever they put in front of him. Serra or HUghes. I actually will pick Serra to hold on to his title when he fights Hughes. HIs stand up did look really good against Gsp, even if Gsp wasn’t at the top of his game. He picked his shots well and executed a perfect fight against a technically superior fighter.
[quote comment=”135653″][quote post=”3152″]who else wants to see Huerta v Guida
I want to see Roger Huerta or Clay Guida vs. Frank Edgar or Nate Diaz.[/quote]
I want to see Huerta vs Nate diaz for some reason. I think Huerta could take him. There’s just so many damn good fighters in 155.
Gsp will beat whoever they put in front of him. Serra or HUghes. I actually will pick Serra to hold on to his title when he fights Hughes. HIs stand up did look really good against Gsp, even if Gsp wasn’t at the top of his game. He picked his shots well and executed a perfect fight against a technically superior fighter.[/quote]
Man you are not kidding, that division is completely stacked. I would love to see a Joe Lauzon vs. Clay Guida at UFC 78. a Frank Edgar vs. Roger Huerta at UFC 78, KenFlo vs. Joe Daddy- whenever, Sherk vs. BJ Penn (one day…) Spencer Fisher vs. Nate Diaz (when Spencer is healthy) don’t forget about the likes of a Thiago Alves, Jorge Grugel, Din Thomas, Sam Stout, Cole Miller, a possible return of Manny Gamburyan, and even COREY HILL still needs to make an appearnce.
This division is great.
You are not the only one who thinks Serra will beat Hughes, but I am picking it because Serra is one of my favorite fighters.
This division is stacked amazingly
What I learned from UFC 74. Don’t wear a mugshot of your opponent unless you want to go “quietly unto that goodnight.” Justice served in my opinion.
[quote comment=”135653″][quote post=”3152″
I want to see Huerta vs Nate diaz for some reason. I think Huerta could take him. There’s just so many damn good fighters in 155.
Gsp will beat whoever they put in front of him. Serra or HUghes. I actually will pick Serra to hold on to his title when he fights Hughes. HIs stand up did look really good against Gsp, even if Gsp wasn’t at the top of his game. He picked his shots well and executed a perfect fight against a technically superior fighter.[/quote]
i agree with the pick of matt serra, it’s a bad matchup for hughes and im going with serra via tko. GSP will get his title back in december. But do you really think dana white is going to have his two poster boys fight each other, i mean come one. Roger Huerta fought a guy last night that was in worse shape than my dad who hasnt ran in like 4 years. Id love to see huerta vs frankie edgar. EDGAR VIA SUBMISSION (STRIKES) (Huerta’s a pretty boy)
[quote comment=”135533″]I didnt get to see what Babulu did, but from what I hear, that is just disgraceful, and its people like him that have no sportsmanship, or class, and are very ignorant. I hope they do fine him. After hearing that, I wouldnt care to really ever see him fight again.
Man I know I have said a lot about this but man I can’t take it. You haven’t even seen the fight! So let me guess.you could care less if you see B.J. Penn fight again? He hated Pulver and defintly held on a few seconds longer after the tap. I even remember a comentator laughing about it if I remember correctly…something like he made pulver feel every second he could. But B.J is loved and Renato is not so now he’s the bad guy? Are you telling me you don’t want to see a remacth sho Gun vs Sobral? He’s no randy Couture forsure but he’s never pretended to be and you are going to far for a fight you never saw.[/quote]
thank you im tired of every1 saying hes bad for the sport so if this is like that so is bj penn takanori gomi and royce gracie david heath was being an asshole ans very disrespectful plus babalu held the choke for less seconds than bj did seriosuly guys stop hating this uy i know him and hes a reall nice guy tho im not saing what he did was right i think fighters who do this should be fined
Great fights and man September is gonna be freakin awesome its a loaded month. Poor Heath got choked out i guess he found out that wearing that wasnt a good idea. I dont know if it was worth 25,000 but it was deff worth watching. And here i was doubting Randy the whole time and man did he show me. Its good to hear Mir has notched a win again. Kos got owned by GSP. One of the better events in awhile i have no complaints other than it would have been cool to see some of the undercard fights.
J:
Whatever shirt Heath was wearing is immaterial.
Babalu should be fined and suspended for a significant period of time. What’s next? A fighter refusing to let a kimura go and break someone’s arm because they insulted you? A guy refusing to let go of a choke and killing someone because he felt disrespected? If there’s one thing Dana can’t have, it’s this. Guys need to know there are serious consequences if they hold a choke after the fight is over.
I’d take away the win from Babalu, fine him last night’s purse and more, and suspend him for at least a year.
” GSP might be the most gifted in that division, but his mental state still has to be questioned. I don’t care he walked through Koscheck, that was one fight, where will his head be when he fights Hughes or Serra? When he wins the championship when he fights an opponent.. where will his head be? ”
That’s a comment! But i just think you don’t understand the mentality of the guy…
A reporter see him at the weigh-in in backstage laugh when he saw himself on tv get KO by Serra! Being able to watch yourself get KO’d and lose your title and to be able to laugh it off must shows St. Pierre has dealt with the situation in a positive fashion!
He said it was the best thing ever happened in his life!
Many fighters will try to hide those bad memories for stay tough in the head of his opponents but not GSP… he just can’t keep that sh*t! He knows he’s better than Serra and blame only himself…
Wake up man! GSP is a real deal!
But he’s not unbeatable, a good punch and the guy is ***** !
Did anyone notice those muy thai clinches and knees Randy pulled on Gonzaga? Courtesy of Wandy.
[quote comment=”135717″]Great fights and man September is gonna be freakin awesome its a loaded month. Poor Heath got choked out i guess he found out that wearing that wasnt a good idea. I dont know if it was worth 25,000 but it was deff worth watching. And here i was doubting Randy the whole time and man did he show me. Its good to hear Mir has notched a win again. Kos got owned by GSP. One of the better events in awhile i have no complaints other than it would have been cool to see some of the undercard fights.[/quote]
Yeah dude, when i tried to explain about Gonzaga’s fight record you dissed me pretty hard…He looked so incredible against Cro Crop ppl seemed to be blinded with admiration and lost their sense of objectivity…Gonzaga needs some time to “season”…to fight plenty of “real” competition and then he will be champ…
I wasn’t a huge Roger Huerta fan before this fight. I thought he was very good, don’t get me wrong, but I felt he was way over hyped. After watching him Saturday night, I can say that I’m now on the bandwagon. He got major skills. And he’s exciting to watch. He’s always keeping busy. Who else has used the jumbotron to land elbows on their opponent?
If Sherk beats his steroid case and fights BJ Penn, Stevenson gets the winner. I’d like to see Huerta fight Kenny Florian with the winner getting the loser of Penn/Sherk
What you guys think?
I have to say that GSP was quite impressive and he looks like he may win back the title. I say this as a huge Matt Hughes fan. That fight will absolutely be a barn burner. Quick thought however. With the Hughes-Serra fight in December, that leaves the title fight between GSP and Matt Hughes probably for March. That sure is a ton of time for GSP to rest but maybe too much time. What do you all think ? Perhaps he falls back off the wagon and starts boozing in Canada with the cold winter months coming lol. That would surely make hima second slower.
[quote comment=”135722″]
Whatever shirt Heath was wearing is immaterial.
Babalu should be fined and suspended for a significant period of time. What’s next? A fighter refusing to let a kimura go and break someone’s arm because they insulted you? A guy refusing to let go of a choke and killing someone because he felt disrespected? If there’s one thing Dana can’t have, it’s this. Guys need to know there are serious consequences if they hold a choke after the fight is over.
I’d take away the win from Babalu, fine him last night’s purse and more, and suspend him for at least a year.[/quote]
Totally agree, although I wouldn’t rule it a no contest. Fighters can’t ignore taps or orders from the referee, period. And yes, I saw the damn fight, and yes I was pissed at Penn for holding onto Pulver. Remember, Babalu is (was) a really popular fighter, so the fact that most people want him raked over the coals for this bullshit stunt shows how serious this was.
Pre fight respect is not good for marketing. So what Heath wore a tee-shirt with Babalu’s mugshot on it. All fighters do things to put hype behind their fight. Look at Boxers, they talk the most trash pre fight. It’s part of the sport. Create controversy so people want to pay to see your fight. Tito/Shamrock 1. Tito’s antics is what sold that fight and he made a bundle off that rivaly.
Babalu is not new to this sport!! He acted like a street thug Saturday night. What if something happened to Heath. That would kill MMA quicker than any congressman. This sport still isn’t legal in every state. Babalu didn’t help out the cause. If anything, he re-enforced the nay-sayers opinions about it. The UFC needs to send a strong message to him and all its fighters about this because it’s becoming more and more common. In the last year I’ve seen three cases of this. Kampmann/Mcfedries, Penn/Pulver, and now Babalu. Grow up guys!!!
In a night that that Natural came and handled his biz with the 3rd round TKO of Gabe..Wow..and who up in here was saying he was going to be retired??? Well God Bless the Natural..and it bugs me out that Babablu..I didn’t see it..but from what I heard..was Disrespectful our sport..sucks ass.
Even pitted him against Shogun on a Main card..Yada Yada.. This type of ish is not what the UFC/MMA needs.
Didnt see the Babalu fight, so I dont know the specifics. But Suspension is a little harsh and honestly so is the fine. they need to be more “standard” with penalties in the UFC.
Fighters have been holding subs too long for a long time. No one seems to mention Hughes/Trigg 2 where Hughes also admitted to holding on too long on purpose and he was the “Champ” at the time.
So has Babalu really done anything differently than Hughes, Penn, Kampmann etc……..
If the standard is to fine and suspend, thats fine, but do it to everyone!
On a side note, with with the differances in point deduction for grabbing the cage.
Tito gets a warning (when he really held the cage, and stopped the takedown by doing so), then a point deduction when he barely grabbed it and got taken down anyway.
On Saturday, right after GG said he couldnt see (which should have been a verbal tap out, IMO) he had a point deducted for grabbing the cage with NO warning!
then there is the Iceman, who basically grabs the cage everytime he is close enough to do so and in trouble of being taken down. But never even warned!
Just strongly feel that penalties whether in-fight or post-fight need to be more standardized.
I hated to see GG lose like that. It was an accidental headbutt so you can’t really take anything away from RC for doing it, but that ruined what would have been an exciting fight.
I didn’t see what happened to Heath, how long did Babalu hold it after Heath tapped?
Also, when GG got deducted a point for holding the fence, RC held the fence right after and nothing was said. That’s kind of bullshit. Do refs have favoritism?
i think its ridiculous, has anyone even seen the fight?!?! babalu held it for maybe 2 or 3 seconds tops. the only way anyone thinks he could have held that for 10 seconds is through beer goggles. bj penn held his choke on jens for longer and dont forget when the ref had to rip arona off after holding the choke for 6-7 seconds in pride 28 because he was mad he got STFO(slammed the f*#k out) by rampage, they should treat all cases the same.
wow, i just watched the fight, this is getting blown way out of proportion. he really did only hold on for under 3 seconds.
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/david heath/video/x2uaae_renato-babalu-sobral-vs-david-heath_extreme
theres the link if anyone else wants to watch it. babalu put on a gnp clinic.
no one saw Cote over Grove? seriously? i did. Cote’s record is deceiving, and he’s in it to prove that’s the case. he’s about to score several more wins and move up the ranks. i’m not saying he’s Top 5 material, but he is tough.
Grove, who IS talented, is still too much of a young punk to take his career seriously. maybe he’ll start now that he got embarrassed, but i doubt it. you only need to watch an interview with him to foresee his loss to Cote.
1st off, Heath took mind games and trash talk to a new level that no fighter should take it to. U dont poke fun at a mans personal life. As far as im concerned babalu wasnt completely wrong. I feel that Heath should be fined as well.
Props to Stevenson for fighting 2 rounds wit a broken jaw. Batman also looked good, his stand up looked better. He ran out of gas just like his teacher hermes did against serk. That camp need to learn the importance of conditioning.
Props to GSP for being completly dominate and fighting for 2 rounds wit a broken nose. Koscheck is very overrated. I would like to c him fight burkman, or fight 3 against sanchez(healthy). I want Mach sakura to fight Karo, that wouild be such a great fight.
I wasnt impressed wit cote, I was more disappointed in Kendal.
Roger Huerta displayed some of the best conditioning I have ever seen. the guy did breath heavily at all during or after the fight. Crane was outmatched but displayed some beautiful grappling (the spider guard was awesome). Crane seems better suited at 145 and his strikes need to improve.
I knew Randy would win. Too all u Gonzaga bandwogoniers, told u so. GG showed great improvement in his game and in his cardio. I think in about 2 years Gonzaga could be ready to take the next step. I knew he wasnt ready for randy. However loosing this fight to Randy is really just a ntural progression in a fighters career. GG hadnt fought anyone besides cro cop, and now Randy. He will gain much needed experience from this Randy fight. His chin looked a lil suspect though.
Randy will easily beat cro cop
Randy vs Nogurra would be tough to call.
Randy vs. fedor biggest fight in history, it would be exciting
but I do not beleive that randy would last 5 rds wit Fedor.
Great night!
2 weeks till rampage vs. Henderson…. that could b the fight of the year!
I smell a third fight between Hendo n wanderlei sometime in 2008.
Ryan jenson looked impressive in a loosing effort
Leites vs. Nate Marquardt could be an interesting fight. Leites americana transitioned into an armbar was beautiful.
Koschek has a lot of work to do, his skillz need to catch up to his mouth. That wild overhand right he throws is so predictable
only disapointing match that was aired was grove vs. cote. Grove needs to stop being a thug n start paying attention to how Randy prepares and conducts himself.
Babalu destroyed Heath and his choke was the same thing I’ve seen in dozens of other fights. Heath was a bloody mess, the choke was causing blood to pour out of his forhead, it was crazy! Horror movie stuff as Rogan said. If he gets fined more than Penn did or any of the other stars I’ve seen hold the choke a couple extra seconds it will be bullshit.
I might be the only one to admitt this, but I was really suprised Kos was able to go the whole three rounds with GSP. Once the first round started and GSP put him on his back, I thought the fight would be over in minutes. He was able to pretty much neutralize GSP’s GnP to minimum damage, unlike Sean Sherk. There is no doubt in my mind that GSP will have the belt soon. But, I did gain some respect for KOS since he didn’t get destoryed like Hughes,and Sherk. I think KOS VS KARO should be his next fight. I bet that would be pretty good. Hughes/Serra your both in troulbe! GSP is back, and focused.
I for one was not impressed by “Big Daddy”, I think BJ PENN will destroy him and it will be a laughable fight. I would like to see him fight Roger Huerta first and let the winner of that fight go against Penn if the title turns up vacant.
I wish they would have televised the Guida fight.
Randy was awesome, I think he should retire now before getting destroyed by someone, go out on top!!! I am sure he has more fight left but why fight anymore you done everything anyone could ever hope to accomplish in this sport, retire now. Save Yourself!!!
Most impressive for me was GSP, he looked phenominal(using the Joe Rogan Thesaurus). Now I am hoping Serra wins against Hughes even though I dont believe he will. Just so I can see GSP kick his ass!!!!
I called Randy Couture in the exact fashion in occured. Third round TKO ref stoppage. See MMAplayground.com for confirmation. He used his boxing skills and dirty boxing to perfection, which helped the take down effort.
I haven’t had a chance to read over the comments yet, but I will this afternoon. Just wanted to mention a few things.
1) Going into the KOS/GSP fight, the only advantage KOS had was his wrestling, and GSP completely outwrestled the ‘best’ wrestler in the UFC. To me that was more impressive than if he KO’d KOS with a kick in the first round.
2)Huerta/Crane - I really hope that ‘crane wins’ didn’t lose anybody some serious cash on this fight, because this fight was laughable. Crane looked 12 years old and got owned in every aspect. I Lauged so hard when Crane was on the ground on his hands and knees, he stands back up, and Huerta throws a body kick to his upper ribs and Crane dropped like a sack of potatoes. Then seconds later, Huerta is on top of Crane and literally looks at the camera and puts on this maniacal face as he proceeds to hump Crane’s face on the ground. Watch it, its hysterical!
and 3) NOBODY will ever doubt Randy again. 100% complete domination. He had big nose wobbled like 2 or 3 times within the first minute of the fight. I think I nutted myself when Randy picked Gabe up and slammed him thru the canvas.
Randy Couture is my hero!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why the heck is Stevenson getting more credit than Florian?
BJ Penn vs Florian if Sherk is a roid head.
Also, I don’t know if anyone ordered the Guida/Aurellio fight, but I just did and what in the world was up with that scoring. I honestly think that Bruce Buffer just messed up when reading, because EVERY split decsion I’ve seen in my life, they say the fighters name after each score, saying which fighter took the fight. For example, “Cecil Peoples scores the bout 30-27 for GUIDA”
AND most of all, why in the hell does UFC on Demand tell you the outcome of the fight before purchasing it? I was pissed that I knew it was a ’split’ decision before watching it. I just wanted to copy/paste this letter that I just sent to the UFC.
I have ordered every single UFC PPV over the last 8 years or so. You continually show less and less of the prelim matches. This is not fair. We pay $40 to see the whole card. This past weekend I was EXREMELY upset that the Guida/Aurellio match wasn’t shown, and instead I saw Thales Leites and Ryan Jenson - neither of whom anyone cares about except for thier mothers.
So today was the first time I paid $2 to watch a fight I already paid for and didnt see. I avoided all MMA websites until I can see this fight. I go to UFC demand, and it tells me the fucking ending before I even buy it! That is the stupidest shit I ever heard of. I shouldnt of even bought it. Why don’t you assholes just put a time delay on the PPV’s and have Mike Fucking Goldbert tell us how the fight ends and in what round before airing the fight.
You are a bunch of fuck ups, and as soon as another half way decent mma organization arises, you guys will all by sucking cock to put food on your tables, and you have no one but Dana White to blame.
FUck off and give us what we pay for. And if we pay EXTRA money, don’t ruin the fucking fight.
Learn a thing or 2 from PRIDE, they showed the whole entire card when you purchased the PPV.
You are worse than boxing!!!!!
GO EliteXC!!!!!
[quote post=”3152″]Also, I don’t know if anyone ordered the Guida/Aurellio fight, but I just did and what in the world was up with that scoring. I honestly think that Bruce Buffer just messed up when reading, because EVERY split decsion I’ve seen in my life, they say the fighters name after each score, saying which fighter took the fight. For example, “Cecil Peoples scores the bout 30-27 for GUIDA”
AND most of all, why in the hell does UFC on Demand tell you the outcome of the fight before purchasing it? I was pissed that I knew it was a ’split’ decision before watching it. I just wanted to copy/paste this letter that I just sent to the UFC.[/quote]I was thinking the same think about the split decision. Every other time its been a split decision he does like you said and anounces who each judge picked. I also ordered the fight on demand and agree that is stupid to put the outcome of the fight right next to where you order it.
if frank mir were back he wouldnt have been gassed after one minute and trying to catch his breath in the post fight interview. he sure looked better then his last couple fight tho.
First of I would like to say that what babalu did was disgracefull and he needs to be punished… we love the ufc for the heat b4 the fights and the respect after…classless… GSP!!!! He’s back, really was never gone…. Kos had an ok first round and GSP was tentative(as are most fighter coming back from a KO…look at hughes vs lytle) in the 1st but got stronger as the fight progressed…Kos was lucky they ran outta rounds b/c he was in for a beating…. people make to much of losses…..everyone loses…Kos will be back, just like GSP. Randy oh Randy….just found out one of GG kicks broke something in randys arm….Randy would have one even without the nosebreaking slam….just maybe not quite so decisively. UFC needs to stop protecting huerta and throw him in the mix…he’s good, he can handle it. I wish that the guida fight woulda been shown, that guy is an animal…and proof that if u go after it..the ufc will overlook losses. That one judge who gave the fight to aurellio needs to be fired, or reprimanded..that’s a big diff from what the others saw.
[quote comment=”135959″][quote comment=”135717″]Great fights and man September is gonna be freakin awesome its a loaded month. Poor Heath got choked out i guess he found out that wearing that wasnt a good idea. I dont know if it was worth 25,000 but it was deff worth watching. And here i was doubting Randy the whole time and man did he show me. Its good to hear Mir has notched a win again. Kos got owned by GSP. One of the better events in awhile i have no complaints other than it would have been cool to see some of the undercard fights.[/quote]
Yeah dude, when i tried to explain about Gonzaga’s fight record you dissed me pretty hard…He looked so incredible against Cro Crop ppl seemed to be blinded with admiration and lost their sense of objectivity…Gonzaga needs some time to “season”…to fight plenty of “real” competition and then he will be champ…[/quote]
Yeah sorry about that. I did pick Gonzaga to win this fight then i was kinda in between im eating crow now, But the reason i think Gonzaga is gonna be top HW material isnt because of the Crocop Fight or the Hype created around Gonzaga after it. He has the skills but as i learned and like you said he just needs the experience. I like Randy but his age worries me and i always think man its got to catch up with him sooner or later but man was i wrong. I think at the level Randy’s at now he still has at least two or more years in him. In BJJ GG has the edge in every other aspect of the game Randy has it in the bag. I like Rc he has class i dont know how much longer he will have the belt but there isnt really anyone in the HW Div that i dont want to see become the HW champ. So whoever it goes to next i’ll be content even if its Randy with another Title defense. Gonzaga will be back just needs to round out his game more.
[quote comment=”135992″]Pre fight respect is not good for marketing. So what Heath wore a tee-shirt with Babalu’s mugshot on it. All fighters do things to put hype behind their fight. Look at Boxers, they talk the most trash pre fight. It’s part of the sport. Create controversy so people want to pay to see your fight. Tito/Shamrock 1. Tito’s antics is what sold that fight and he made a bundle off that rivaly.
Babalu is not new to this sport!! He acted like a street thug Saturday night. What if something happened to Heath. That would kill MMA quicker than any congressman. This sport still isn’t legal in every state. Babalu didn’t help out the cause. If anything, he re-enforced the nay-sayers opinions about it. The UFC needs to send a strong message to him and all its fighters about this because it’s becoming more and more common. In the last year I’ve seen three cases of this. Kampmann/Mcfedries, Penn/Pulver, and now Babalu. Grow up guys!!![/quote]
Yeah i have to agree although it was cool to watch. Heath was beaten Sobral should have been happy with that. It is becoming more common maybe the Refs should carry tasers lol. That way if they dont stop ZAP!!! of course the poor guy getting choked out might get some of it but hey its better than being choked to death.
Geez, Kos got dominated and I lost money! Oh well, I just came back to eat crow. GSP dominated him, nobody got hurt in the fight but there was no way Kos was winning. Ouch.
pellegrino and joe daddy put on a war. i had it much closer than a UD, thats absurd. joe took the 3rd, kurt took the 1st and the 2nd was real close. pellegrino had to have the KO or submit him to really win, he never would have won a close decision to the hometown guy.
who’s next for batman now? im a new fan of him now, he’s definitely at the top of the division, just needs to work on his gas
Batman really impressed me. That guy made that fight so close and if he didnt gas he would have won. I agree truman that fight was way closer than they scored it. I would have went sd stevenson 29-28. batman’s a tough dood and hes a character, he’s great for the ufc and he’s a JERSEY BOY!!!!!!! (As am i lol) im a fan of him too
I also have to add that Batman had a very entertaining ring entrance. Singing and dancing to Queen’s “Another one bites the dust”, I thought it was funny. While watching I said “It looks like he’s nice and loose for this fight”
“And another one gone, and another one gone, another one bites the dust, YEAH…”
A very gay song, but he made it almost cool.