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	<title>Comments on: Michael Bisping at middleweight?</title>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://mmamania.com/2007/08/22/michael-bisping-at-middleweight/comment-page-2/#comment-149187</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 04:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having lived in London for a long time, I&#039;m used to seeing 3rd rate fighters hyped up until they fight actual contenders from the rest of the planet, mainly from the US and Eastern Europe.  Personally, I like Michael Bisping and he&#039;s got a great attitude.  But, he&#039;s just like the others that fight great on the Isles and choke abroad.


He got his butt kicked.  He was handed a decision since he was hometown.  Now he&#039;s going to drop weight before he has to fight again...god forbid in a place that is actually sanctioned.

Usually I pissed when I see judges hand a fight to someone who clearly lost (I still sting over Chavez&#039;s decision in Mexico over SweetPea Whittaker).  But in this case, it was so clearly lopsided, it doesn&#039;t really sting, it&#039;s just ridiculous.  Like an old Monty Python skit.

It is, however, to see the UFC becoming more like Boxing and all the BS that comes with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having lived in London for a long time, I&#8217;m used to seeing 3rd rate fighters hyped up until they fight actual contenders from the rest of the planet, mainly from the US and Eastern Europe.  Personally, I like Michael Bisping and he&#8217;s got a great attitude.  But, he&#8217;s just like the others that fight great on the Isles and choke abroad.</p>
<p>He got his butt kicked.  He was handed a decision since he was hometown.  Now he&#8217;s going to drop weight before he has to fight again&#8230;god forbid in a place that is actually sanctioned.</p>
<p>Usually I pissed when I see judges hand a fight to someone who clearly lost (I still sting over Chavez&#8217;s decision in Mexico over SweetPea Whittaker).  But in this case, it was so clearly lopsided, it doesn&#8217;t really sting, it&#8217;s just ridiculous.  Like an old Monty Python skit.</p>
<p>It is, however, to see the UFC becoming more like Boxing and all the BS that comes with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Luppers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luppers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 01:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the Bisping hype is just that... but he would fit REALLY well at 185. World Champ? Im doubtful... but better then he is in the 205 arena? Sure...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Bisping hype is just that&#8230; but he would fit REALLY well at 185. World Champ? Im doubtful&#8230; but better then he is in the 205 arena? Sure&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mcanena</title>
		<link>http://mmamania.com/2007/08/22/michael-bisping-at-middleweight/comment-page-2/#comment-133838</link>
		<dc:creator>mcanena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 23:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey John,I wasnt making that up as you probably know now about the roids,I know how good Shogun was in PRIDE but I am not that confident he is just gonna destroy all at LH,and I think he may struggle at first adapting to the new rules,any other time I would agree Shogun would absolutly destroy Forrest but I realy do think Forrest has a real chance if he can exploit the fact that Shogun is new to the cage and the crowd,rules everything,this is one fight I realy wouldnt be suprised if there was an upset.
Also I think  Bisping looks better shape at 205 then Shogun,have you seen his pic on ufc.com? he does not look right to me,look at that pic and then look back at older pics from PRIDE weigh ins and you will see what I mean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey John,I wasnt making that up as you probably know now about the roids,I know how good Shogun was in PRIDE but I am not that confident he is just gonna destroy all at LH,and I think he may struggle at first adapting to the new rules,any other time I would agree Shogun would absolutly destroy Forrest but I realy do think Forrest has a real chance if he can exploit the fact that Shogun is new to the cage and the crowd,rules everything,this is one fight I realy wouldnt be suprised if there was an upset.<br />
Also I think  Bisping looks better shape at 205 then Shogun,have you seen his pic on ufc.com? he does not look right to me,look at that pic and then look back at older pics from PRIDE weigh ins and you will see what I mean.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://mmamania.com/2007/08/22/michael-bisping-at-middleweight/comment-page-2/#comment-133334</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;132887&quot;][quote post=&quot;3111&quot;]Has anyone on this site ever heard steriod accusations about Shogun&quot; If so please inform me, because right now, Im not nuying that![/quote]

[quote post=&quot;3111&quot;]It was Juanito, who I think was Rampage&#039;s ex trainer. He&#039;s just pissed that Shogun humiliated Rampage. Wandi destroyed him twice too. Shogun has never even been that big of a guy muscle wise, I really doubt he was on roids[/quote]

WOW, do you two read anything on this site?  Just yesterday, there was an article posted about some writer checking on on Rampage&#039;s training camp, and then Henderson&#039;s.  While at Rampage&#039;s, he was talking to Rampage&#039;s CURRENT trainer, Juanito Ibarra who said that &#039;Rampage lost to Shogun and Wandi over in Japan, where they don&#039;t to post fight drug testing.  If Rampage was to fight them over here, it would be a different story.&#039;  I just paraphrased there, I didn&#039;t copy/paste the exact quote.  Just went from memory.[/quote]

My bad, That is probably the 1st post that I have ever skipped over. So basically there is no proof of shogun n Wandy taking roids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="132887"][quote post="3111"]Has anyone on this site ever heard steriod accusations about Shogun&#8221; If so please inform me, because right now, Im not nuying that![/quote]</p>
<p>[quote post="3111"]It was Juanito, who I think was Rampage&#8217;s ex trainer. He&#8217;s just pissed that Shogun humiliated Rampage. Wandi destroyed him twice too. Shogun has never even been that big of a guy muscle wise, I really doubt he was on roids[/quote]</p>
<p>WOW, do you two read anything on this site?  Just yesterday, there was an article posted about some writer checking on on Rampage&#8217;s training camp, and then Henderson&#8217;s.  While at Rampage&#8217;s, he was talking to Rampage&#8217;s CURRENT trainer, Juanito Ibarra who said that &#8216;Rampage lost to Shogun and Wandi over in Japan, where they don&#8217;t to post fight drug testing.  If Rampage was to fight them over here, it would be a different story.&#8217;  I just paraphrased there, I didn&#8217;t copy/paste the exact quote.  Just went from memory.[/quote]</p>
<p>My bad, That is probably the 1st post that I have ever skipped over. So basically there is no proof of shogun n Wandy taking roids.</p>
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		<title>By: Bisping vs. Evans - MMA Forum - UFC Forums - UFC Results - MMA Videos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bisping vs. Evans - MMA Forum - UFC Forums - UFC Results - MMA Videos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 01:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Michael Bisping at middleweight? at UFC blog for UFC news, results, videos, rumors, fights, pics and tickets  I found it there but I actually think if Evans went down to MW he is one of few people who could possibly beat Silva and I don&#039;t think it would matter which weight he would still walk through Bisping and if Bisping were to face Silva he would get walked through by Silva also. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Michael Bisping at middleweight? at UFC blog for UFC news, results, videos, rumors, fights, pics and tickets  I found it there but I actually think if Evans went down to MW he is one of few people who could possibly beat Silva and I don&#8217;t think it would matter which weight he would still walk through Bisping and if Bisping were to face Silva he would get walked through by Silva also. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: AaronW</title>
		<link>http://mmamania.com/2007/08/22/michael-bisping-at-middleweight/comment-page-2/#comment-132892</link>
		<dc:creator>AaronW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;132887&quot;][quote post=&quot;3111&quot;]Has anyone on this site ever heard steriod accusations about Shogun&quot; If so please inform me, because right now, Im not nuying that![/quote]

[quote post=&quot;3111&quot;]It was Juanito, who I think was Rampage&#039;s ex trainer. He&#039;s just pissed that Shogun humiliated Rampage. Wandi destroyed him twice too. Shogun has never even been that big of a guy muscle wise, I really doubt he was on roids[/quote]

WOW, do you two read anything on this site? [/quote]

Not really.  

I wasn&#039;t sure so I said I think it was instead of acting like I knew for sure.  Chill out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="132887"][quote post="3111"]Has anyone on this site ever heard steriod accusations about Shogun&#8221; If so please inform me, because right now, Im not nuying that![/quote]</p>
<p>[quote post="3111"]It was Juanito, who I think was Rampage&#8217;s ex trainer. He&#8217;s just pissed that Shogun humiliated Rampage. Wandi destroyed him twice too. Shogun has never even been that big of a guy muscle wise, I really doubt he was on roids[/quote]</p>
<p>WOW, do you two read anything on this site? [/quote]</p>
<p>Not really.  </p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t sure so I said I think it was instead of acting like I knew for sure.  Chill out.</p>
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		<title>By: ViolentMike</title>
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		<dc:creator>ViolentMike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote post=&quot;3111&quot;]Has anyone on this site ever heard steriod accusations about Shogun&quot; If so please inform me, because right now, Im not nuying that![/quote]

[quote post=&quot;3111&quot;]It was Juanito, who I think was Rampage&#039;s ex trainer. He&#039;s just pissed that Shogun humiliated Rampage. Wandi destroyed him twice too. Shogun has never even been that big of a guy muscle wise, I really doubt he was on roids[/quote]

WOW, do you two read anything on this site?  Just yesterday, there was an article posted about some writer checking on on Rampage&#039;s training camp, and then Henderson&#039;s.  While at Rampage&#039;s, he was talking to Rampage&#039;s CURRENT trainer, Juanito Ibarra who said that &#039;Rampage lost to Shogun and Wandi over in Japan, where they don&#039;t to post fight drug testing.  If Rampage was to fight them over here, it would be a different story.&#039;  I just paraphrased there, I didn&#039;t copy/paste the exact quote.  Just went from memory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote post="3111"]Has anyone on this site ever heard steriod accusations about Shogun&#8221; If so please inform me, because right now, Im not nuying that![/quote]</p>
<p>[quote post="3111"]It was Juanito, who I think was Rampage&#8217;s ex trainer. He&#8217;s just pissed that Shogun humiliated Rampage. Wandi destroyed him twice too. Shogun has never even been that big of a guy muscle wise, I really doubt he was on roids[/quote]</p>
<p>WOW, do you two read anything on this site?  Just yesterday, there was an article posted about some writer checking on on Rampage&#8217;s training camp, and then Henderson&#8217;s.  While at Rampage&#8217;s, he was talking to Rampage&#8217;s CURRENT trainer, Juanito Ibarra who said that &#8216;Rampage lost to Shogun and Wandi over in Japan, where they don&#8217;t to post fight drug testing.  If Rampage was to fight them over here, it would be a different story.&#8217;  I just paraphrased there, I didn&#8217;t copy/paste the exact quote.  Just went from memory.</p>
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		<title>By: AaronW</title>
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		<dc:creator>AaronW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 18:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and Shogun and Wandi were both tested for the Pride events in Nevada and both were clean.  Shogun destroyed his opponent while Wandi lost to Henderson, but was supposedly suffering from strep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and Shogun and Wandi were both tested for the Pride events in Nevada and both were clean.  Shogun destroyed his opponent while Wandi lost to Henderson, but was supposedly suffering from strep.</p>
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		<title>By: AaronW</title>
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		<dc:creator>AaronW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 18:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;132685&quot;]McCenna: im not gonna get in a pissing match wit u, but I think u will be dead wrong. In his octagon Debut, Shogun will be facing a better fighter (Forrest)then any other Pride guy has faced in his octagon debut (with the exception of Hendo). I also expect him to have the best octagon debut of any pride fighter since Anderson Silva jumped on the scene and destroyed Leiben.

For the fans who don&#039;t know, Shogun his the 205 lb version of Anderson Silva. No proof of him ever taking roids. To say something like that, without proof is very Sherdogish! I dont know how the Laws r in England, but in the USA we believe in this little concept called &quot;guilty till proven innicent&quot;.
Lets not discredit a fighter just because of speculation.

I have no knowledge of Shogun ever testing positive for roids, I may be wrong.

Has anyone on this site ever heard steriod accusations about Shogun&quot; If so please inform me, because right now, Im not nuying that![/quote]

It was Juanito, who I think was Rampage&#039;s ex trainer.  He&#039;s just pissed that Shogun humiliated Rampage.  Wandi destroyed him twice too.  Shogun has never even been that big of a guy muscle wise, I really doubt he was on roids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="132685"]McCenna: im not gonna get in a pissing match wit u, but I think u will be dead wrong. In his octagon Debut, Shogun will be facing a better fighter (Forrest)then any other Pride guy has faced in his octagon debut (with the exception of Hendo). I also expect him to have the best octagon debut of any pride fighter since Anderson Silva jumped on the scene and destroyed Leiben.</p>
<p>For the fans who don&#8217;t know, Shogun his the 205 lb version of Anderson Silva. No proof of him ever taking roids. To say something like that, without proof is very Sherdogish! I dont know how the Laws r in England, but in the USA we believe in this little concept called &#8220;guilty till proven innicent&#8221;.<br />
Lets not discredit a fighter just because of speculation.</p>
<p>I have no knowledge of Shogun ever testing positive for roids, I may be wrong.</p>
<p>Has anyone on this site ever heard steriod accusations about Shogun&#8221; If so please inform me, because right now, Im not nuying that![/quote]</p>
<p>It was Juanito, who I think was Rampage&#8217;s ex trainer.  He&#8217;s just pissed that Shogun humiliated Rampage.  Wandi destroyed him twice too.  Shogun has never even been that big of a guy muscle wise, I really doubt he was on roids.</p>
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		<title>By: AaronW</title>
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		<dc:creator>AaronW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 18:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t get the whole &quot;Wandi &amp; Shogun&quot; were on &#039;roids crap.  Who said this?  Probably the trainer of a fighter that those two left in a heap or hanging in the ropes of a Pride ring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get the whole &#8220;Wandi &amp; Shogun&#8221; were on &#8216;roids crap.  Who said this?  Probably the trainer of a fighter that those two left in a heap or hanging in the ropes of a Pride ring.</p>
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