“Put it this way, the UFC is where I would love to fight, but the UFC is all about protecting people. I’m hoping to get a call saying ‘Forrest Griffin can’t fight, do you want to fight Shogun?’ That’s my dream. I told them screw the money. I want to fight this and that person, but they wanted me to fight nobodys…. I will just give one name. I asked to be on the [UFC 75] card with Dan [Henderson] on free TV and I asked for Michael Bisping and they basically asked me if I was on crack.”
– In a live chat with FightHype.com free agent light heavyweight prospect Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou reveals that negotiations with the UFC fell apart when he requested match ups with top 205-pound fighters. He mentions in the article that he will be fighting next month but does not indicate for which organization. For more on “Soku” check out our archives.
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i believe that the ufc does protect it’s fighters, but that would have been a great match, they need to sign this guy, bisping would have dropped in the first round, i think shogun would have beat him though.
UFC is on crack if they don’t pick up Soku, Bisping’s jaw would be laying on the other side of the ring if he fights Soku.
Soko would KO Bisping in 45secs…
Id love to see this kinda fighter in the UFC. UFC is all about trying to insure some stability… F that, let them brawl son whoop whoop!
That would be a sick fight. I want to see that and I wouldn’t mind who wins either. Bisping would probably be handed his first loss but it would be a great fight for as long or as short as it would last. Neither guys do boring fights.
Sokoudjou’s doesn’t have a big enough name to pick his fights on the contract. Sheesh.
I’d look at him like he was on crack also.
he’s still a young and entertaining fighter he would beat M.B but him verse sho it will be great to see for free.will see him sooner than later in the ufc.
Dumbest descision of UFC’s life is not getting this guy in there.
[quote comment=”129151″]Sokoudjou’s doesn’t have a big enough name to pick his fights on the contract. Sheesh.
I’d look at him like he was on crack also.[/quote]
I agree The guys 4-1 with two wins over big names. But he’s young in the game. He needs to give it some time build his career up then the fights will be up for negotiation.
Very good move from the business standpoint. Risking a Demolition of Bisping would definitely compromise the UFCs rising stake in the European market.
From a personal standpoint…Terrible move! Bisping would not hang for a minute with a beast like Soku.
Correction: The dumbest (continuing) decision is keeping Dana as president/spokesperson.
I love this guy i wish they would let him fight liddel rather then jardin i hope jardin pulls out and the Soku to step in… BUT thats just a dream
Ok, then if he isnt a big enough name, why not throw him to the high level fighters that he wants to face?
what the hell soku koed little nog and arona it doesnt matter that he has 5 fights bisbing is a nobody at all
No one in the UFC picks thier opponents. While I don’t necessarily agree with the UFC’s business practices, I agree with the UFC on this one.
Soku is on crack if he thinks he can come into the UFC with a 4-1 record and hand pick his opponents! No one is the U.S. evens knows who Soku is. Only the hardcore fans know about him and he is nuts if he thinks otherwise.
Poor old Bisping is in for another bashing in this thread I’m afraid. I like the guy and think he can become very good.
If the UFC didn’t protect certain fighters, the sport would not grow half as fast as it is growing now. Obviously its better financially to protect certain fighters, and sure, Dana and the Fertita brothers are already making millions each year, but its their business and there isn’t anything that anyone can do about it. Now that UFC and Pride are owned by the same people, it is a MMA monopoly. Top level fighters need to fight in the UFC to fight against the best in the world. Since there is no major competition, the UFC can do whatever it wants and the fans will typically stick with it.
Its good and bad that they protect some fighters:
Good for business and growth of the sport,
Bad for dedicated fans who only want to see the best battle the best.
Still there are fights where no one is being protected ( i.e. Chuck vs. Rampage, Hughes vs. St.Pierre, Kos vs. Sanchez), but its usually the rising stars or champions on a comeback trail who are protected.
Anyway, I’ll keep buying the PPV’s because I still like the UFC and they usually put on a good show.
[quote comment=”129142″]Soko would KO Bisping in 45secs…
Id love to see this kinda fighter in the UFC. UFC is all about trying to insure some stability… F that, let them brawl son whoop whoop![/quote]
Yeah your right,Bisping has done nothing to proove that hes fighter with real potential has he.
How can you possibly be so sure that Bisping would be KOed in 45 seconds?
Look at his mma record he is only 4 and 1. And he thinks that he is just going to walk in an demand fights. Of course he is extremely talented. But even when Cro Cop or anyone else came over from Pride they did not step right in against the Champ If he comes in and has a dominant performance than he might get a little lee way to choose his fights.
Hey Mania,
its interesting that out of all the things said in that interview you chose the part that he wanted to fight Bisping as the headline for this blog,are you wanting people to think that maby Bisping turned down the fight coz I can tell you for a fact 100% Bisping will not turn down a fight with anyone,he wants badly to fight some bigger names and he was very disapointed to have to fight someone else off TUF3,I think TUF3 was obviously very painfull for alot of you guys seeing a Brit just walk through the entire show without a scratch on him,now its embarresing reading these blogs with people constantly trying to put him down when he is clearly one of the most exciting fighters in the UFC,no-one can argue,he has finished all his fights and he is never gonna try and out-point anyone.
I dont know your thoughts on Soku wanting to fight Bisping,but to me he is complementing Bisping by saying he wants to fight him,he is saying Bisping is one of the best fighters and thats why he wants to fight him,Im sure Bisping will take this as a complement.
Your own prejudice realy shows on here sometimes Mania against Bisping,
your quick to put a blog on when its something like hes supposed to be fighting Ken Shamrock or this but not when its about Bispng going to train with Rampage in Big Bear,no wonder the UFC dosnt want you sponsering any of their fighters.
HE WONT FIGHT SOUKOUDJOU BISPING IS A COWARD THAT HAND PIKS HIS OPPONENTS …WAY TO STEP UP MIKE …MATT HAMILL???CMON UEXPECT PEOPLKE TO ADMIRE YOU ???WHO HAVE U FACED THAT HAS ANY TALENT …BISPING IS AN ASSHOLE
[quote comment=”129215″]Ok, then if he isnt a big enough name, why not throw him to the high level fighters that he wants to face?[/quote]
Soko is good and needs to be introduced to the UFC audience, that’s how he doesn’t have a big name. The UFC audience will be shocked and disillusioned if someone out of nowhere knocks out a poster boy within the first round. That’s why Mirko got Eddie as his debut to the UFC. That’s why Rampage got Eastman as his debut. Fedor won’t need an intro if he does get signed because he will be too expensive to just have laying around. Yes or no?
IT MAKE’S ME LAUGH WHEN UNIMFORMED FANS THINK THEIRRY IS NEW TO THE SPORT ,HES AN JUDO CHAMPION WHO ALMOST PUT RAMPAGE OUT FOR GOOD [IN PRACTICE]PLEASE DONT OFFER INFO IF U DONT KNOW WHAT U ARE TALKING ABOUT ..AND HIS RECORD IS 4-1 YA..BUT ,,HE DOESNT SAY HE WANTS ANYONE, THEY OFFER THE FIGHTS TO HIM AND HE EITHER ACCEPT S IT OR REJECTS IT . THE COUNT WONT ACCEPT ANYTHING ,AND LIKE USUAL WILL KEEP DUCKING ANYONE WITH TALENT
[quote comment=”129278″]Look at his mma record he is only 4 and 1. And he thinks that he is just going to walk in an demand fights. Of course he is extremely talented. But even when Cro Cop or anyone else came over from Pride they did not step right in against the Champ If he comes in and has a dominant performance than he might get a little lee way to choose his fights.[/quote]
DUDE DO U ACTUALLY KNOW WHT YER SAYING ?CUZ IT MAKES NO SENSE
gvoll — you’re the one writing unintelligible gibberish. Soku is new to the sport, and said sport is not “judo.”
[quote comment=”129151″]Sokoudjou’s doesn’t have a big enough name to pick his fights on the contract. Sheesh.
I’d look at him like he was on crack also.[/quote]
Dana white is the on e on crack. Sokoudjou is 23 years old and in the top 10. For us die hard fans that have a clue, sokoudjou is a bigger name then bisping(and im a huge bisping fan). Bisping would be the underdog in that fight. So the UFC turns down a fighter with a warrior spirit who is eager to step in the cage wit established animals, but they will keep a fag like Tito, who is all talk n ducks all the top fighters(fights old man shamrock 3 times, and waste his time fighting rashad twice).
If Im Dana White n a top 10 fighter comes in my office eager to fight shogun, Im like, welcome to the UFC. Im a huge Bisping fan, but now that this info has been made public, he better demand a fight wit soukoudjou. Its Dana white, and the fan’s loss, we wont get to c a young, top 10 beast, basically for calling out the fighters that Dana is trying to protect.
Dana is putting his TUF fighters(who he has invested money in) in front of a top ten fighter.
Dana looks like the crackhead to me
“I asked for Michael Bisping and they basically asked me if I was on crack.”
That doesn’t sound like something Dana White would say/do…
Gvoll: U r right bro…. to me Sokodjou is a bigger name then Bisping, Forrest, Rashad, Jardine.
I guarentee that every last hardcore fan(educated fans) would have preffered
Shogun vs. Sokoudjou then Shogun vs. Forrest
am I right?
U casual fans have to realize that THeirry is a 23 year old top 10 fighter. He’s Hendersons best training partner, He has got Karo parysian level Judo skills, nasty strong kicks. heavyhands. and in his 5 mma fights he has faced better fighters then Bisping, Jardine, Forrest, and Rashad have ever faced.
He knocked out Noguerra’s twin brother and his teamate arona, who r both in the top ten. u TUF fans gotta do some research. Just cuz Dana white is trying to sell u a fighter and discredit another fighter, doesnt mean dana has the better fighter, it means Dana has more invested in that fighter.
[quote comment=”129178″][quote comment=”129151″]Sokoudjou’s doesn’t have a big enough name to pick his fights on the contract. Sheesh.
I’d look at him like he was on crack also.[/quote]
I agree The guys 4-1 with two wins over big names. But he’s young in the game. He needs to give it some time build his career up then the fights will be up for negotiation.[/quote]
Age shouldn’t be something that holds fighters back from greatness.
[quote comment=”129282″]Hey Mania,
its interesting that out of all the things said in that interview you chose the part that he wanted to fight Bisping as the headline for this blog,are you wanting people to think that maby Bisping turned down the fight coz I can tell you for a fact 100% Bisping will not turn down a fight with anyone,he wants badly to fight some bigger names and he was very disapointed to have to fight someone else off TUF3,I think TUF3 was obviously very painfull for alot of you guys seeing a Brit just walk through the entire show without a scratch on him,now its embarresing reading these blogs with people constantly trying to put him down when he is clearly one of the most exciting fighters in the UFC,no-one can argue,he has finished all his fights and he is never gonna try and out-point anyone.
I dont know your thoughts on Soku wanting to fight Bisping,but to me he is complementing Bisping by saying he wants to fight him,he is saying Bisping is one of the best fighters and thats why he wants to fight him,Im sure Bisping will take this as a complement.
Your own prejudice realy shows on here sometimes Mania against Bisping,
your quick to put a blog on when its something like hes supposed to be fighting Ken Shamrock or this but not when its about Bispng going to train with Rampage in Big Bear,no wonder the UFC dosnt want you sponsering any of their fighters.[/quote]
Hey Mcanena-
Get a grip. What on God’s green Earth are you smoking? You take anything that has to do with Liddell or Bisping way too serious.
Take a hike if you feel like spewing hose ridiculous conspiracy theories. It’s totally juvenile and sounds absolutely retarded.
I think Soku vs Bisping could be a good 2nd/3rd fight for Soku. Debuting against Bisping is not a good move for the UFC. 95% of fans aren’t knowledgablelike the people who post on boards like this. None of my friends have heard of Fedor, much less Soku.
Even if he beats Bisping, Soku would still be pretty unknown until he won about 2 more fights. So for those 6 months, the UFC loses hype on one their biggest international draws without much to show for it. If Soku loses, then it raises a big question mark on how legit his last two big wins were.
There’s quite a lot to lose, and relatively little to gain by having these two fight right off the bat. Of course, hardcore fans gain a lot, but we’re a tiny minority.
That’s basically the crux of the problem with the Pride purchase. There are lots of great and spectacular fighters, of whom over 95% of fans know absolutely nothing about. Since that’s the case, the UFC is forced to give these guys relatively easy, low-risk debuts to build hype so that the casual fans understand why something like Nog vs Crocop is a huge fight, for example.
Mark my words, a year from now you’ll look back, and you’ll have seen so many spectacular match-ups in that even the most cynical fan will wet themselves thinking back on it all. We’re at the brink of having some of the best MMA action in history.
Personally, I think Soku is missing out more than anyone else (except for Fedor if he doesn’t sign). This is the perfect time to build yourself as an MMA star.
[quote comment=”129302″]”I asked for Michael Bisping and they basically asked me if I was on crack.”
That doesn’t sound like something Dana White would say/do…[/quote]
Exactly my same thoughts……I think we should keep an eye on Dana’s weight….he might be smoking crack him self.
And for those who say Soku only has a 4-1 record…..look who he knocked out. UFC is scared he will come in and knock out their fighters that they are trying to market along with their brand. They want Bisping to win and continue to do so they can market him in England/Europe.
to but soku and bisbing in the same league is a laugh really soku has proven himself twice in his short career how many times has bisbing proven him self
i mean to put
What I think is funny is how people say soku hasn’t fought anyone and he is 4 and 1 so he doesn’t deserve to fight any one, my question is: Who the hell has Bisping fought? answer: NO ONE. I thought when Zuffa bought PRIDE they were all about saying “Now the best fighters in the world can fight each other.” Maybe I’m crazy but I haven’t seen anything like that. Soku asks for Bisping and they say no, are you serious, because him fighting “the mallet” would be a lot more interesting, get yer freakin mind right, Dana is all talk, and only cares about promoting and elevating the careers of his poster boys.
Funny how up until now, Sokoudjou said he stayed completely out of contract negotiations, and let Hendo sit in for that. But really, as said before, UFC’s rising popularity is largely due to the TUF shows. Soku is basically an unknown to US fans so to speak, and it would be stupid to stomp all over the investment that has been Bisping.
We should start wondering how many UFC first-timers are going to be handed over to Roger Huerta. So, Bisping is not alone in the fluff catagory.
[quote comment=”129294″]IT MAKE’S ME LAUGH WHEN UNIMFORMED FANS THINK THEIRRY IS NEW TO THE SPORT ,HES AN JUDO CHAMPION WHO ALMOST PUT RAMPAGE OUT FOR GOOD [IN PRACTICE]PLEASE DONT OFFER INFO IF U DONT KNOW WHAT U ARE TALKING ABOUT ..AND HIS RECORD IS 4-1 YA..BUT ,,HE DOESNT SAY HE WANTS ANYONE, THEY OFFER THE FIGHTS TO HIM AND HE EITHER ACCEPT S IT OR REJECTS IT . THE COUNT WONT ACCEPT ANYTHING ,AND LIKE USUAL WILL KEEP DUCKING ANYONE WITH TALENT[/quote]
[quote comment=”129303″]Gvoll: U r right bro…. to me Sokodjou is a bigger name then Bisping, Forrest, Rashad, Jardine.
I guarentee that every last hardcore fan(educated fans) would have preffered
Shogun vs. Sokoudjou then Shogun vs. Forrest
am I right?
U casual fans have to realize that THeirry is a 23 year old top 10 fighter. He’s Hendersons best training partner, He has got Karo parysian level Judo skills, nasty strong kicks. heavyhands. and in his 5 mma fights he has faced better fighters then Bisping, Jardine, Forrest, and Rashad have ever faced.
He knocked out Noguerra’s twin brother and his teamate arona, who r both in the top ten. u TUF fans gotta do some research. Just cuz Dana white is trying to sell u a fighter and discredit another fighter, doesnt mean dana has the better fighter, it means Dana has more invested in that fighter.[/quote]
You two guys are comical, Yeah Soku he’s a legend in MMA and all his years of MMA experience spanning from 2006 to 2007 its just amazing. Gimmie a break on the TUF fan sh1t and the uninformed BS. He’s great yeah we all know he knocked out Arona and Nogueira in Pride but it still dont give him Carte Blanche in the UFC. US Judo champ well good im happy for him but alot of MMA fighters are former Champs in all kinds of Sh1t its not like its unheard of. Soku great fighter but ya cant make demands when your at the bottom of the Totem pole what dont you (MMA geniuses)get about that. what you guys want to see and whats reality are clearly two different things. You would make terrible business men and im glad your not the presidents of the UFC. It would be belly up in a year or two with you two nuts at the helm. Face it he has to prove himself in the Octagon get his name out there to the UFC fans and then he might have some leverage but they are not gonna risk him coming in and Knocking out someone that they have invested money and PR in. You guys would bring in joe Schmoe to fight one of your big names and thats why if you guys were running the show the UFC would be no more than a lowly rinky dink backyard organization with no nationwide coverage or success. Its about business and making money and its always gonna be like it or leave it. They mold public opinion from there PR on certain top fighters there (poster boys) per say and those are the fighters the majority of fans want to see and thats where the UFC will make the most dough. So there it is and there you have it. Now live with it cuz ya aint gonna change it by sitting here calling other MMA fans uninformed,TUF fans,Newbies,Bandwagoners and what ever the hell else you (Godcomplex MMA elite fans) call anyone who doesnt agree with you.
[quote comment=”129151″]Sokoudjou’s doesn’t have a big enough name to pick his fights on the contract. Sheesh.
I’d look at him like he was on crack also.[/quote]
hey kid… he beat little nog, and ricardo arona… they need to market the best fights not the biggest names
Nice response Thor1982…
Besides, Bisping will destroy this guy when the time comes. All you Bisping haters, suck it up. He’s a star for the time being…and he’ll continue to win as the UFC develops him into a top-notch champion.
13 and 0 is and will always be better than 4 and 1. You talk about the great fighters soku fought but who did he lose to? yeah a nobody. So I believe it would be a very exciting match up and anybody’s fight to win. Soku needs to chill and not demand anythang he ain’t nobody he aint going to sell out any shows for you(like Bisping has)any time soon. He needs to earn it.
The is a huge difference between PROTECTING and BUILDING fighters.
BUILDING a fighter means progressing him over his career over increasingly difficult opponents and giving him a chance to grow his skills through experience.
PROTECTING a fighter is when a fighter could be ready to take the next step, but he is not placed with anybody who has a chance to beat him…. Until he gets a title shot.
I have seen 100 examples of the UFC BUILDING fighters. I have seen almost no examples of them PROTECTING fighters.
Is Forrest Griffin protected? I don’t think so. They are feeding him to Ortiz and Shogun. Is Diego Sanchez protected? They are feeding him to Koscheck and then Fitch.
At the end of the day, fighters are required to prove themselves before even getting a title shot. That is far from protecting. Sokoudjou is just mad that Zuffa has footage of him getting beaten down in the WEC. He can sure dish it out, but he can’t take it.
And there is a reason why Zuffa and Dana White doesn’t throw fighters to the wolves anymore. His name is Nate Quarry. They rushed his career and look at how badly he got KO’ed. White has stated since then that he wants to take the TUF Fighter’s careers more slowly, give them time to grow as fighters before he really tests them. That is actually very smart for him to do. Once again, that is protecting, that is giving a guy with a lot of potential time to become the best he can be. Sometimes that means he will be world champion. Most of the times not. But these fighters at least deserve the chance to grow in that direction.
In resposne to thor1982 “, who wants to see lame ass predictable matches, that as you say are just smart fights to make the most money, that’s just plain bullshit, why do I give a fuck how many gaddamn ppv sales the UFC does, all I give a fuck about is seeing the best and most talented fighters match up against each other, and If you ran the company we would call it the WWE in a year or two
It’s not the first or last time a fighter commits career suicide from brash impatience.
[quote comment=”129303″]Gvoll: U r right bro…. to me Sokodjou is a bigger name then Bisping, Forrest, Rashad, Jardine.
I guarentee that every last hardcore fan(educated fans) would have preffered
Shogun vs. Sokoudjou then Shogun vs. Forrest
am I right?
U casual fans have to realize that THeirry is a 23 year old top 10 fighter. He’s Hendersons best training partner, He has got Karo parysian level Judo skills, nasty strong kicks. heavyhands. and in his 5 mma fights he has faced better fighters then Bisping, Jardine, Forrest, and Rashad have ever faced.
He knocked out Noguerra’s twin brother and his teamate arona, who r both in the top ten. u TUF fans gotta do some research. Just cuz Dana white is trying to sell u a fighter and discredit another fighter, doesnt mean dana has the better fighter, it means Dana has more invested in that fighter.[/quote]
I agree 100%
I think alot of you guys are taking his comments about Bisbing as a demand. He basically said, for the type of money the UFC was offering he would take it only if he could fight a certain caliber of opponent. He said the type of fighters that could elevate him to the big money fights. Instead the UFC said you could fight 3 up and coming guys and then a contender and Soko said no thanks! Not just Soko, but all fighters get bashed for calling out the top fighters by fans and then the same fans complain when they are watching star fighters fight cans. Kind of like when Liddell was saying he would fight Cro Cop. People torched him and now he’s fighting Jardin and still getting torched.
Soko is on crack, if he thought they’d give him Bisping.
And I say that with the full knowledge that Soko would whoop Bisping.
No, a better selection would be Bonnar. A guy who is experienced, will put up a fight, can test Soko on the ground, and isn’t likely to ever be a top fighter.
[quote comment=”129181″]Very good move from the business standpoint.
Risking a Demolition of Bisping would definitely compromise the UFCs rising stake in the European market.
From a personal standpoint…Terrible move! Bisping would not hang for a minute with a beast like Soku.[/quote]
Agreed, the UFC wants to keep Bisping as a star to help with the European market……Soko would destroy that guy…and most others, I would bet
[quote comment=”129356″]Nice response Thor1982…
Besides, Bisping will destroy this guy when the time comes. All you Bisping haters, suck it up. He’s a star for the time being…and he’ll continue to win as the UFC develops him into a top-notch champion.[/quote]
Thanks WADZ
Cant just assume because Soku has KO wins over Arona and Nogueria that he can defeat Bisping. Im gonna use MMAth and say since Teixeira KO’ED Soku and Ed Herman beat Teixeira that Ed Herman can Whoop em all lol. It works that way dont it? records mean everything.
SokWHO??? Bisping would murder this dude… And dont be dumb . The ufc Is not trying to keep anyone a star. except mabye chuck liddel.
I think if Soko was willing to fight for less money, he would have taken a lesser opponent then Bisping, someone they are trying to promote in the UK. I can see why the UFC said no. Im just not sure if I understand why Soko said no. Im not in a rush to see him fight a Rampage or Shogun yet. I would like to see him in the UFC eventually though.
[quote comment=”129353″][quote comment=”129294″]IT MAKE’S ME LAUGH WHEN UNIMFORMED FANS THINK THEIRRY IS NEW TO THE SPORT ,HES AN JUDO CHAMPION WHO ALMOST PUT RAMPAGE OUT FOR GOOD [IN PRACTICE]PLEASE DONT OFFER INFO IF U DONT KNOW WHAT U ARE TALKING ABOUT ..AND HIS RECORD IS 4-1 YA..BUT ,,HE DOESNT SAY HE WANTS ANYONE, THEY OFFER THE FIGHTS TO HIM AND HE EITHER ACCEPT S IT OR REJECTS IT . THE COUNT WONT ACCEPT ANYTHING ,AND LIKE USUAL WILL KEEP DUCKING ANYONE WITH TALENT[/quote]
[quote comment=”129303″]Gvoll: U r right bro…. to me Sokodjou is a bigger name then Bisping, Forrest, Rashad, Jardine.
I guarentee that every last hardcore fan(educated fans) would have preffered
Shogun vs. Sokoudjou then Shogun vs. Forrest
am I right?
U casual fans have to realize that THeirry is a 23 year old top 10 fighter. He’s Hendersons best training partner, He has got Karo parysian level Judo skills, nasty strong kicks. heavyhands. and in his 5 mma fights he has faced better fighters then Bisping, Jardine, Forrest, and Rashad have ever faced.
He knocked out Noguerra’s twin brother and his teamate arona, who r both in the top ten. u TUF fans gotta do some research. Just cuz Dana white is trying to sell u a fighter and discredit another fighter, doesnt mean dana has the better fighter, it means Dana has more invested in that fighter.[/quote]
You two guys are comical, Yeah Soku he’s a legend in MMA and all his years of MMA experience spanning from 2006 to 2007 its just amazing. Gimmie a break on the TUF fan sh1t and the uninformed BS. He’s great yeah we all know he knocked out Arona and Nogueira in Pride but it still dont give him Carte Blanche in the UFC. US Judo champ well good im happy for him but alot of MMA fighters are former Champs in all kinds of Sh1t its not like its unheard of. Soku great fighter but ya cant make demands when your at the bottom of the Totem pole what dont you (MMA geniuses)get about that. what you guys want to see and whats reality are clearly two different things. You would make terrible business men and im glad your not the presidents of the UFC. It would be belly up in a year or two with you two nuts at the helm. Face it he has to prove himself in the Octagon get his name out there to the UFC fans and then he might have some leverage but they are not gonna risk him coming in and Knocking out someone that they have invested money and PR in. You guys would bring in joe Schmoe to fight one of your big names and thats why if you guys were running the show the UFC would be no more than a lowly rinky dink backyard organization with no nationwide coverage or success. Its about business and making money and its always gonna be like it or leave it. They mold public opinion from there PR on certain top fighters there (poster boys) per say and those are the fighters the majority of fans want to see and thats where the UFC will make the most dough. So there it is and there you have it. Now live with it cuz ya aint gonna change it by sitting here calling other MMA fans uninformed,TUF fans,Newbies,Bandwagoners and what ever the hell else you (Godcomplex MMA elite fans) call anyone who doesnt agree with you.[/quote]
you probably didntREAD WHAT I WROTE, YOU TOOK OUT OF CONTEXT ,JUDO OR NOT IF YOU RE THAT BLIND TO SEE …OR EXACT REFRENCES MEANING ITS PROB NOT HIM GOIN IN AND STAMPING HIS FUKIN FEET SAYIN I WANT BISPING I WANT BISPING …HE PROB MENTIONED HED LIKE TOI FIGHT BUT PEEONS RUN RIGHT FOR AN NEGATIVE PART AND PUT HIM DOWN DUDE HES A GREAT FIGHTER ,,,AND IF BISPING CAN HAND PICK EM THEN MAYBE THEIRRY S TRYIN TO MAKE A STATEMENT …PLEASE GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT WAS ALL IM ASKIN….AND IM GLAD WE MADE U SMILE IM ALL FOR YOU THOR 1313
THOR PROB THINKS DANAS DOIN A GOOD JOB BY BRINGING CHRIS LEBEN BACK AGAIN …AND NOT LETTING DIAZ OR SOKUODJOU IN ….HEY THOR WHO ARE YOUR FAVOURITES AND WHEN DO START YOUR BOOKING JOB AT UFC ???AND AS FER THE GUY WHO THINKS BISPING WILL BEAT HIM I WILL MEET YOU SOMEWHERE TO WATCH THE FIGHT …AND WE WILL BOTH PUT UP OUR HOUSES NO PROBLEM…HE HAS NO CHANCE OF BEATING HIM WHO HAS BISPING FOUGHT????
alot of u lot are on soku’s dik - do your research and u will find a stack of tough fighters bisping has demolished. Hes NEVER lost a fight, hes been champion of every organisation hes fought in previous to UFC, theres no stopping this country boy! Bring on Bisping vs Tito that would let him slowly climb the contendership ladder
[quote comment=”129178″][quote comment=”129151″]Sokoudjou’s doesn’t have a big enough name to pick his fights on the contract. Sheesh.
I’d look at him like he was on crack also.[/quote]
I agree The guys 4-1 with two wins over big names. But he’s young in the game. He needs to give it some time build his career up then the fights will be up for negotiation.[/quote]
Thing is if he would just go ahead and mangle a couple of scrub fights, then his fans would be screaming for the UFC to give him the match-ups he is asking for up front. The UFC would have to make it happen then.
His recent wins over Arona and little Nog were impressive. I’m still not convinced though. Need to see one more before I pick up his banner.
[quote comment=”129314″][quote comment=”129282″]Hey Mania,
its interesting that out of all the things said in that interview you chose the part that he wanted to fight Bisping as the headline for this blog,[/quote]
Hey Mcanena-
Take a hike if you feel like spewing hose ridiculous conspiracy theories. It’s totally juvenile and sounds absolutely retarded.[/quote]
Mcanena don’t leave the board! I enjoy your other side of the pond take on things. You’re entitled to be a Bisping nut-hugger since he’s your hometown boy… or home island boy whichever.
Mcanena when it comes to Bisping you’re “plum mad”… as in mad for his “plums” (British equivalent of “nut hugger”?).
First of all people, he asked to fight Bisping, he didn’t demand it. Also, he didn’t ask to fight the elite in the division. Bisping is not even a top 5 light heavyweight. As far as I’m concerned, it would have been a match between two young talented fighters with great careers ahead of them. The problem with protecting fighters is if they lose to their unknown opponent, Like Jardin did, you destroy their credibility a lot faster than if they lost to an A list fighter. Look at when Forest lost to Tito, no one thought any less of him right, but now everyone thinks Jardin is garbage.
Dana stop protecting them, Screw the Euro market if all they want is padded fights so there boy can win! Where’s the honor in that?
everyone knows he would smash bisping, no mystery there
Man it is worse then I thought in here.
Thought I would see how all the newcomers were doing Mania. Sounds like you have your hands full.
Glad I stick to the posts, but every once in a while I have to humor myself with a little “sherdog” like blogging.
Still love the posts though Mania.
Later
Chris Valentine
mcena: Bisping is a great up an comming fighter. But he talk about him like he’s Fedor. How about we all just judge the fighter, instead of jumping on a fighters bandwagon because he is a fellow country man.
Get a grip. What on God’s green Earth are you smoking? You take anything that has to do with Liddell or Bisping way too serious.
Take a hike if you feel like spewing hose ridiculous conspiracy theories. It’s totally juvenile and sounds absolutely retarded.
atta boy Mania: put him in his place. I love bisping but this guy makes u really hate the british
Man Im originally from Rome, now I live in Philadelphia. Just cuz Im Italian u dont c me going around saying that Alessio Sakara is the greatest fighter in the world. We get it, ur British, ur happy to finally have any athlete to be excited about besides Beckham and wayne Rooney, but open your eyes man, Bisping still has a long way too go(lots of potential).
People like u is y us Ameriacans hate u bloody British twits. U Brits r almost as bad as the French.
The one thing everyone needs to rmember here is, love it or hate it,the UFC is a business first..Nobody buys or buys into a business to loose money. Why give away a fight , since nobody except the real MMMA fans know Soko? That is a great fight to market once Soko has a bit of a name for himself in the UFC aand Bisping gets another real fighter or 2 under his belt. It hsDes headline ability if done right. So why make this a cheap as undercard when you can get a potential top biller….Think about it froma business stand point not just the fanpoint.
[quote comment=”129314″][quote comment=”129282″]Hey Mania,
its interesting that out of all the things said in that interview you chose the part that he wanted to fight Bisping as the headline for this blog,are you wanting people to think that maby Bisping turned down the fight coz I can tell you for a fact 100% Bisping will not turn down a fight with anyone,he wants badly to fight some bigger names and he was very disapointed to have to fight someone else off TUF3,I think TUF3 was obviously very painfull for alot of you guys seeing a Brit just walk through the entire show without a scratch on him,now its embarresing reading these blogs with people constantly trying to put him down when he is clearly one of the most exciting fighters in the UFC,no-one can argue,he has finished all his fights and he is never gonna try and out-point anyone.
I dont know your thoughts on Soku wanting to fight Bisping,but to me he is complementing Bisping by saying he wants to fight him,he is saying Bisping is one of the best fighters and thats why he wants to fight him,Im sure Bisping will take this as a complement.
Your own prejudice realy shows on here sometimes Mania against Bisping,
your quick to put a blog on when its something like hes supposed to be fighting Ken Shamrock or this but not when its about Bispng going to train with Rampage in Big Bear,no wonder the UFC dosnt want you sponsering any of their fighters.[/quote]
Hey Mcanena-
Get a grip. What on God’s green Earth are you smoking? You take anything that has to do with Liddell or Bisping way too serious.
Take a hike if you feel like spewing hose ridiculous conspiracy theories. It’s totally juvenile and sounds absolutely retarded.[/quote]
I dont think I am being juvenile,I think you are,look at the comments you let people away with about Mike,things like Brit B*tch ass and stuff like that,that is offensive to me,its like letting someone off with rasist remarks,its ridiculous for people to act talk like Bisping is a coward,Bisping is a fighter and he would fight anyone in the world,I know thats the way people are in the north of England are,he wont turn a fight down with anyone,on the show I remember no-one would step up to fight him and Ross Pointon did not hesitate to fight at all,
thats the way people are here and for people to make out that Bisping is dodging fights is whats ridiculous.
As for Liddell it angers me to read peoples comments talking like hes finished and hes useless,after all hes done and achieved he deserves respect,it anoys me and in my comments I am just stating my opinion.
[quote comment=”129432″]Mcanena when it comes to Bisping you’re “plum mad”… as in mad for his “plums” (British equivalent of “nut hugger”?).[/quote]
I dont think so mate. I feel Ive gotta stick up for him,he is an exciting fighter who has only been in MMA for a couple of years and people are talking so much nonsense about him,it makes me sick.
[quote comment=”129415″]THOR PROB THINKS DANAS DOIN A GOOD JOB BY BRINGING CHRIS LEBEN BACK AGAIN …AND NOT LETTING DIAZ OR SOKUODJOU IN ….HEY THOR WHO ARE YOUR FAVOURITES AND WHEN DO START YOUR BOOKING JOB AT UFC ???AND AS FER THE GUY WHO THINKS BISPING WILL BEAT HIM I WILL MEET YOU SOMEWHERE TO WATCH THE FIGHT …AND WE WILL BOTH PUT UP OUR HOUSES NO PROBLEM…HE HAS NO CHANCE OF BEATING HIM WHO HAS BISPING FOUGHT????[/quote]
No one, now let me ask you this, Who has Bisping lost to? I wouldnt go around saying Bisping cant beat anyone, when he hasn’t done much to prove your case. Second, Bisping does not choose his fights. And, if he did, who was to say he is any closer to a title shot….because he’s not. There is Hendo, Shogun, Liddell, Silva, Ortiz, Rashad, Machida all in front of Bisping. Maybe even Forrest Griffen too. Bisping is a LONG way away from a title shot if you ask me, so why not fight a Matt Hamill in the meantime? Your bashing Bisping as if he’s doing something wrong here. Winning against more difficult opponents each time you fight, doesnt seem like the worst route to me.
[quote comment=”129447″]Man it is worse then I thought in here.
Thought I would see how all the newcomers were doing Mania. Sounds like you have your hands full.
Glad I stick to the posts, but every once in a while I have to humor myself with a little “sherdog” like blogging.
Still love the posts though Mania.
Later
Chris Valentine[/quote]
An elite legend in his own mind, haha.
Man Soku seems way out of bispings league to me, Soku is an amazing striker and I get the feeling he could hang with, if not beat any light heavy weight, bisping doesn’t impress me.
I agree with the decision with the UFC. I also think that if the UFC had a year when all the top fighters fought each other then what fights would you want to see after that.
alot of you are saying “well he’s only 4-1″ its quality not quantity look at bisping he’s what 13-0 but how many of those fighters are of a decent calibur his last fight was against elvis sinosic who has a losing record and is still trying to live off that win off jeremy horn where as Soku has KO’d 2 top 10 ranked fighters in under what like 3 minutes? and how many of you would rank him in the top 10? and how many would rank bisping in the top 10? bisping has potential no doubt but comparing his skill to soku at this point is a joke
Let’s just set the record straight on MB, he doesn’t hand pick his fights. He didn’t want to fight Matt Hamill because he felt it was a step back. At least give him that.