OK sure exciting fights are important but when top guys sit on the sidelines the fights they schedule become a lot less exciting.

“the pitbull” has been very timid lately. It would be a hard PPV sale with andrei as the main event. Dana rewards exciting fighters. Nothing wrong with that

Andrei is being sidlined because his fighting style as of late is not good for the growth of the sport. Who wants to watch unexciting fights? Boxing fans maybe but not MMA fans!

well is it a sport or is it just entertainment like wrestling?? Dana seems to have no rhyme or reason when putting together fights or allegiance to fighters who have paid there dues. I am a die hard mma fan but I have to admit it’s kinda getting sketchy in the ufc with all the matchups guys coming over getting title fights with one warm up fight(even though I realize they deserve to be or will be belt holders they are the top fighters doesn’t mean they shouldn’t have to abide by some rules and fight a couple fights against top talent before they get a shot). I think I just miss the actual concept of mma which is to compete and work your way up to a title shot, watching a fighter progress up the ranks into a title shot. It just seems more exciting as opose to well this guy really shouldn’t be fighting this guy it makes no sense and nobody will gain anything from it but it will sell tickets so lets do it! ex.chuck vs. jardine( not saying jardine can’t win but it doesn’t make sense, why should chuck fight a guy who is not in the top ten coming off a huge loss alexander?? Chuck should be fighting only top talent he’s 36-37 years old!! He might not have his best years in front of him anymore and to waist three months of training to watch a fight I am really not interested in to begin with is ridiculous. And yes I am aware jardine is a replacement but good god find someone who atleast ranks in the top ten or don’t fight atall take a month off.

You guys want to see the best of AA?

Dana White, put him in w/ Vera, a fighter that is certain to push the pace (unlike Sylvia and Werdum), and AA will come into the fight physically ready for a war and ready to fight for a top spot in the HW division, GUARANTEED!

I think AA got infected with nastiness by Tim Sylvia. That fight he had last year for the title was god awful. I know he was injured but that was probly the most boring fight ive ever watched…..ever. He stayed in that mind set for a while after that. I wanna see AA come back with some fire under his a#*. Also, Im hoping that he does us all a favor and shaves/waxes that disgusting back hair. I mean, the guy had hair on his shoulders that was touching his ears. Thats just not right, that would totally get in my head if I had to fight him

I like Arlovski alot and always have. However his last two fights bummed me out in terms of his timidness. I hope that when and if he does fight again, that the “Pit Bull” will return with him.

Nice picture. Didn’t know Abe Lincoln was an MMA fan.

I can see him on a hollercoaster for another 2 years and i bet then he will be the champ, and a crazy one at that.

look at forrest griffens last fight, he admits to doing exactly what everyone is hating on AA for, He was afraid to get knocked out so he ran. So they give Forrest a shot at Shogun, which should he win will likely put him one fight away from a title shot? And dont tell me the heavyweight division is more stacked than light heavyweight, cause its not.

I doesnt matter if Andrei fights or not…he will get lost in the now stacked HW division. You have to remember when Andrei held the belt..the division sucked. At best he will be a gatekeeper like tito ( I love to put down Tito)

hey bloodymess i agree with you completely that the ufc is kinda screwy in that they sideline arlovski while griffin gets a shot at shogun… but i can’t help think that’s forrest’s punishment…. and i remember reading that franklin’s fight was really boring (i never got to see it), and he gets a title shot. Arlovski is a beast and i can’t wait till he gets back and dominates someone really badly, like cro cop.

i think it’s hard for arlovski cause his last two fights have been agains bjj guys so .. give him a striker or at least someone who’s willing to trade for a while, vera, herring, cro cop, kongo, hardonk.

If they don’t want to give him one of those guys, give him nog, i’m sure that it’d be a great fight.

Franklin’s fight was boring due to Okami, not Franklin. Okami wanted about as much to due with Franklin as a bird with a cat.

Give him another shot. I think he will bounce back. Vera could easily put the nail in the coffin though if that were the match. I would prob be forced to put money on Vera over Arlovski even though “The Pitbull” is my fav fighter of all time.

[quote comment="125568"]I like Arlovski alot and always have. However his last two fights bummed me out in terms of his timidness. I hope that when and if he does fight again, that the “Pit Bull” will return with him.[/quote]

Last two fights? He’s pretty much sucked in his last four fights, even though he won two of them. If he continues his timid ways, I don’t expect to seem him in the UFC much longer.

I liked AA and I still believe he has something to offer the HW division, but he needs to prove it.

Looking at his last 4 fights he has only won 2, 50% is not an impressive victroy ratio for recent fights.

However lets say that his losses were to exceptionally talented fighters, well that is’nt exactly the case either, The Maniac is not someone I would get on the wrong side of but he isn’t exactly or has he ever been a dominant force in MMA. If he retired today no one would remember him as a great fighter or hugely influential to the sport.

Finally lets say that his wins were absolutely convincing and showcased a truely dangerous fighter. Well that isn’t the case both matches were fairly poor, even when he got the TKO to me it looked like he waited for the ref to restart the match and as he did he quickly punch allowing him to get the upper hand. Plus his opponents weren’t that impressive any way!

So right now he isn’t exactly hot property, I say (as did JP jr) stick him n there with a finisher like Vera then we will see.

cc, chuck, and gsp all just got koed in the 1rst rnd, and they are all getting high profile ppv fights. franklin,s last fight was boring as well, but he’s getting a title shot. i cant beleive aa cant get a fight just because werdum ran the whole fight. i guess aa would have been better to have got koed in the 1rst rnd as well. he would probably fighting for the title. lol.

[quote comment="125608"]Franklin’s fight was boring due to Okami, not Franklin. Okami wanted about as much to due with Franklin as a bird with a cat.[/quote]

Just like Arlovski’s last fight was lame due to Werdum, I mean the guy lays down and waves AA to come hop on him??? what is that? He wanted nothing to do with Andrei

[quote comment="125662"]cc, chuck, and gsp all just got koed in the 1rst rnd, and they are all getting high profile ppv fights. franklin,s last fight was boring as well, but he’s getting a title shot. i cant beleive aa cant get a fight just because werdum ran the whole fight. i guess aa would have been better to have got koed in the 1rst rnd as well. he would probably fighting for the title. lol.[/quote]

lol fully agree!

[quote comment="125598"]hey bloodymess i agree with you completely that the ufc is kinda screwy in that they sideline arlovski while griffin gets a shot at shogun… but i can’t help think that’s forrest’s punishment…. and i remember reading that franklin’s fight was really boring (i never got to see it), and he gets a title shot. Arlovski is a beast and i can’t wait till he gets back and dominates someone really badly, like cro cop.

i think it’s hard for arlovski cause his last two fights have been agains bjj guys so .. give him a striker or at least someone who’s willing to trade for a while, vera, herring, cro cop, kongo, hardonk.

If they don’t want to give him one of those guys, give him nog, i’m sure that it’d be a great fight.[/quote]

I completely agree, And yes Forrest could very well get punished by Shogun, hopefully not as bad as Rich got it from Anderson. Anyway Yes Andrei needs a striker to shine. After one or two more knockouts he will be the man again.

[quote comment="125556"]well is it a sport or is it just entertainment like wrestling?? Dana seems to have no rhyme or reason when putting together fights or allegiance to fighters who have paid there dues. I am a die hard mma fan but I have to admit it’s kinda getting sketchy in the ufc with all the matchups guys coming over getting title fights with one warm up fight(even though I realize they deserve to be or will be belt holders they are the top fighters doesn’t mean they shouldn’t have to abide by some rules and fight a couple fights against top talent before they get a shot). I think I just miss the actual concept of mma which is to compete and work your way up to a title shot, watching a fighter progress up the ranks into a title shot. It just seems more exciting as opose to well this guy really shouldn’t be fighting this guy it makes no sense and nobody will gain anything from it but it will sell tickets so lets do it! ex.chuck vs. jardine( not saying jardine can’t win but it doesn’t make sense, why should chuck fight a guy who is not in the top ten coming off a huge loss alexander?? Chuck should be fighting only top talent he’s 36-37 years old!! He might not have his best years in front of him anymore and to waist three months of training to watch a fight I am really not interested in to begin with is ridiculous. And yes I am aware jardine is a replacement but good god find someone who atleast ranks in the top ten or don’t fight atall take a month off.[/quote]

great point. It also seems to be a double standard with Hughes last snore fest then his immediate title shot or franklins fight which wasn’t horrible but nothing to call home about. After they both get shots again?? I thought boring was frowned upon?? Not saying Andrei deserves a title shot after two wins but if thats what you tell him and the public and thats the precident you set with your other fighters then it’s only fair you show some equality. At very least I am sure you could find him a fight regardless.

I’m in the minority in saying AA is awesome. I think the second fight with Sylvia showed him he could get caught if he’s reckless and he’s been conservative since then. I don’t know why he blew it against Sylvia in the third fight. But since then he knocked out Cruz and he pursued a smart strategy against Werdum. If Dana White thinks AA has really lost something, then match him up against a top contender and let’s see who gets knocked down a notch.

I think Noguira is getting the winner of RC-GG. I’d really like to see AA get the title shot after that.

As for fighting Vera, I agree Vera was a top prospect last year. It’s almost been an entire year since he’s fought not just in the UFC but for any organization. He does not deserve a crack at Arlovski. A fighter always has a puncher’s chance and he could catch Arlovski, or Gonzaga, or Minotauro. He needs to re-establish himself. Give the guy a cupcake first fight back, then a solid class B, second tier guy. Those will be Vera’s two fights this year. In 2008 he’ll be ready for a shot.

If Vera fights Arlovski and Arlovski wins, people will probably still rag Arlovski. But if Vera wins, suddenly he jumps up to like #3 in the rankings.

I know it wasn’t confirmed but come on UFC. Give us the AA/Vera fight. It’s a great fight for the both of them, it will prove how hungry these guys are. My prediction AA over Vera if it ever goes down

This is BS. Poor AA, he deserves more than this. A lot of good points on this blog, I like the one how GSP, CC, and CHUCK all got KO’d first round, and are getting high profile PPV fights. That’s Bullcrap. Exciting comes second, rankings with wins losses comes first.

[quote comment="125662"]cc, chuck, and gsp all just got koed in the 1rst rnd, and they are all getting high profile ppv fights. franklin,s last fight was boring as well, but he’s getting a title shot. i cant beleive aa cant get a fight just because werdum ran the whole fight. i guess aa would have been better to have got koed in the 1rst rnd as well. he would probably fighting for the title. lol.[/quote]
I was juat about to write this, thanks for saving me the time. It does seem like if Arlovski would have got KOed he would be in the mix still? Werdum RAN that whole fight. Quite frankly after that fight, I wouldnt care if I ever saw Werdum again. It’s hard to chase someone that is running from you, and not even attempting to fight back. Werdum was in defensive mode that whole fight!!! What else could Arlovski do? He cant just stick his face out there to try to let Werdum open up. I do admit Arlovski sucked against Sylvia the last fight, bash him for that if you will, but dont hate on him for the Werdum fight. Werdum knew he lost that fight and with one minute left, the fight ended with him standing in the same spot! For a whole minute!!! That’s beyond horrible if you ask me. Arlovski deserves much more respect than people are seeming to give him at the moment. I have no question in my mind he will once again become the champion. IF GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY!

[quote comment="125749"]This is BS. Poor AA, he deserves more than this. A lot of good points on this blog, I like the one how GSP, CC, and CHUCK all got KO’d first round, and are getting high profile PPV fights. That’s Bullcrap. Exciting comes second, rankings with wins losses comes first.[/quote]

Exactly. It’s good to know, I am not alone. lol

This is total b.s.. Dana is treating AA as if he’d lost his last couple of fights! He won. You didn’t think it was exciting? Well, everyone has an opinion. I was on the edge of my seat, knowing it only took one right hand to win the fight. If Dana wants to take back the title shot promise, fine, be a lying loser. But at least book AA against someone, millions of fans want to see him, and he has a job to do and a life to lead.

Regardless of who Arlovski fights next; that fighter is going to get wrecked!!!! I think Arlovski is fed up with the B.S. that Dana White is giving him and Arlovski will make a statement. I so hope Arlovski’s next fight is with Vera. Arlovski is going to destroy all the hype surrounding Vera and send Vera down to Light Heavyweight.

It’s great that they have all this talent at heavyweight now since they sucked the life out of Pride. Remember Dana White saying they were going to avoid the pitfalls of boxing and give the fans fights they want to see? Here we are on this board wondering who the hell Arlovski is going to fight next let alone if he is going to get another title shot in our lifetimes. Is Randy Couture really the top heavyweight fighter in the world or did he just figure out how to beat Tim Sylvia? I can’t envision Couture beating Arlovski. Not even if they fought 10 times.

everyone is right….its bullsh!t how arlovski is getting treated….granted the 3rd fight with sylvia was garbage….but he knocked the fu@k out of cruz while sitting on the mat (who is a bjj guy)….and werdum (another bjj guy) was running a whole lot….even though arlovski has a sambo background….who would want to go to the ground with werdum….he has won the abu dhabi tournament….so arlovski wanted the fight on the feet….and steveland is absolutely correct about the last 2 fights have been with ground fighters….throw a stand up guy with him and we’ll see what happens

I hope he tells Dana to get stuffed and goes to K-1 or Elite XC…He deserves bettr..In K-1 he could fight some quality strikers. I’d love to see Overeem come up to HW, he probably walks around at 235.

AA vs. Overeem. Or better still, AA to sign for Elite XC and Fedor to sign for Elite XC. The Elite XC will blow up and the Fertittas will go Mr. White you moron, your fired.

Or the final scenario, Andre goes:
“If I sign on again for another 3 fights I want a boxing match with Dana like Tito demanded.”

Dana would piss his pants and cry like a little school girl.

Dana White = The Don King of MMA.

Andre Arlovski = Overrated

He was the champ when the top contenders were Paul Buentello and Justin Eilers.

Now that there is some decent talent in the HW division (still don’t have the top HW fighter signed), Arlovski can’t even get himself a fight.

I would love to see Arlovski fight Brandon Vera. That way the winner will get their much needed push toward the championship. And the loser, well, they can just shut up and sign with EliteXC for all I care.

[quote comment="126274"]Andre Arlovski = Overrated

He was the champ when the top contenders were Paul Buentello and Justin Eilers.

Now that there is some decent talent in the HW division (still don’t have the top HW fighter signed), Arlovski can’t even get himself a fight.

I would love to see Arlovski fight Brandon Vera. That way the winner will get their much needed push toward the championship. And the loser, well, they can just shut up and sign with EliteXC for all I care.[/quote]
Just because the top contenders were Eilers and Buentello, doesn’t mean Arlovski wasnt the man. He KOed Buentello before I even sat down on my couch. He now may have a tougher road ahead of him, it still does not mean he cant do it. Arlovski is one of the most gifted natural fighters Ive ever seen.

He’s young he had a couple timid fights a couple losses no big deal. Believe me we will see him again at the top maybe not champ or maybe the champ in either case we will deff be seeing Arlovski again.

Many Arlovski haters were probably clinging to his nutsack when he was pissing all over the HW division. Some people are extremely fickle.

[quote post="3011"]As for fighting Vera, I agree Vera was a top prospect last year. It’s almost been an entire year since he’s fought not just in the UFC but for any organization. He does not deserve a crack at Arlovski. A fighter always has a puncher’s chance and he could catch Arlovski, or Gonzaga, or Minotauro. He needs to re-establish himself. Give the guy a cupcake first fight back, then a solid class B, second tier guy. Those will be Vera’s two fights this year. In 2008 he’ll be ready for a shot.
If Vera fights Arlovski and Arlovski wins, people will probably still rag Arlovski. But if Vera wins, suddenly he jumps up to like #3 in the rankings. [/quote]
Vera has already owned 4 class B fighters. How many more does he have to beat to get a top guy? Vera deserves a top guy now. We have heard enough of ,who has he fought? and you think he should have to go 6-0 before he deserves AA. How is him beating two nobodies make him more deserving. Vera has way more than a punchers chance against AA. Beating AA proves he’s ready, Beating a cupcake proves nothing. Fights like CC vs Sanchez is a waste of a fans time and money.

Vera would school AA with ease. AA is overrated.