Comments on: Update: Sean Sherk files for extension on steroid appeal hearing http://mmamania.com/2007/08/05/update-sean-sherk-files-for-extension-on-steroid-appeal-hearing/ UFC news, event schedules, fight analysis, Octagon predictions, UFC fighters and MMA thoughts Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:05:16 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: TKO All Fools http://mmamania.com/2007/08/05/update-sean-sherk-files-for-extension-on-steroid-appeal-hearing/comment-page-2/#comment-172316 TKO All Fools Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:31:32 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/08/05/update-sean-sherk-files-for-extension-on-steroid-hearing/#comment-172316 I would say my guess is dude did steroids so he should be stripped immediatley just the fact that they found a foreign substance makes him guilty, anyone that short and that buff probably is on steroids dudes more ripped than hughes and hughes is a natural with extroradinary power, so what does that tell you, stop waisting all of the MMA fans time tell the damn truth either you did the juice or you did not, either way you will loose the belt to BJ PEnn any how. I would say my guess is dude did steroids so he should be stripped immediatley just the fact that they found a foreign substance makes him guilty, anyone that short and that buff probably is on steroids dudes more ripped than hughes and hughes is a natural with extroradinary power, so what does that tell you, stop waisting all of the MMA fans time tell the damn truth either you did the juice or you did not, either way you will loose the belt to BJ PEnn any how.

]]> By: Ultimate Fighter http://mmamania.com/2007/08/05/update-sean-sherk-files-for-extension-on-steroid-appeal-hearing/comment-page-2/#comment-142357 Ultimate Fighter Tue, 04 Sep 2007 21:58:30 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/08/05/update-sean-sherk-files-for-extension-on-steroid-hearing/#comment-142357 [quote comment="120331"]He "could be" telling the truth. He was only twice the normal limit of an athlete of his caliber. There are non-steroid supplements out there that does boost testosterone levels which he may have taken instead of poking needles in his ass. I would say Royce Gracie was the obvious juicer (not by appearance)with 10 times the normal level of testosterone in his blood. He too claims he is innocent but I would say it would be pretty hard to explain 10 times over than twice over.[/quote] Chances are more likely that Gracie did something innocent and got caught, he knew that there would be tests and probably took something that he did not know would elevate his levels where Sherk being so close to the limit has probably been cycling his use and screwed up by taking his juice just a little to cloose to his test time. he did the crime let him pay the time, like it or not Sherk CHEATED. [quote comment="120331"]He “could be” telling the truth. He was only twice the normal limit of an athlete of his caliber. There are non-steroid supplements out there that does boost testosterone levels which he may have taken instead of poking needles in his ass.

I would say Royce Gracie was the obvious juicer (not by appearance)with 10 times the normal level of testosterone in his blood. He too claims he is innocent but I would say it would be pretty hard to explain 10 times over than twice over.[/quote]
Chances are more likely that Gracie did something innocent and got caught, he knew that there would be tests and probably took something that he did not know would elevate his levels where Sherk being so close to the limit has probably been cycling his use and screwed up by taking his juice just a little to cloose to his test time. he did the crime let him pay the time, like it or not Sherk CHEATED.

]]> By: quinnyMMA http://mmamania.com/2007/08/05/update-sean-sherk-files-for-extension-on-steroid-appeal-hearing/comment-page-2/#comment-136820 quinnyMMA Tue, 28 Aug 2007 05:55:58 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/08/05/update-sean-sherk-files-for-extension-on-steroid-hearing/#comment-136820 Just a few points I'd like to make are, > If Sherk naturally produces these level due to his "Hardcore Worlout" then how hasn't he tested positive every time or in at least 1 other test? > To whom ever said that people who don't like Sherks "hold em down for 25 mins" style aren't true MMA fans, Well thats balls, Where's the MIXED martial arts is in shooting, wrestling to the ground, and lying on top, His training is all about getting explosive power to take down and then cardio so as he never gets tired, He does very little MMA training it's 60% cardio 35% strenth 5% other, > If Dana wasn't so much up Sherks ass he'd do the right thing and strip him, I would love to see Penn beat his ass tho and he would do it's GSP style too, roids or not, Just a few points I’d like to make are,

> If Sherk naturally produces these level due to his “Hardcore Worlout” then how hasn’t he tested positive every time or in at least 1 other test?

> To whom ever said that people who don’t like Sherks “hold em down for 25 mins” style aren’t true MMA fans, Well thats balls, Where’s the MIXED martial arts is in shooting, wrestling to the ground, and lying on top, His training is all about getting explosive power to take down and then cardio so as he never gets tired, He does very little MMA training it’s 60% cardio 35% strenth 5% other,

> If Dana wasn’t so much up Sherks ass he’d do the right thing and strip him, I would love to see Penn beat his ass tho and he would do it’s GSP style too, roids or not,

]]> By: Sherk Izajuicer http://mmamania.com/2007/08/05/update-sean-sherk-files-for-extension-on-steroid-appeal-hearing/comment-page-2/#comment-135415 Sherk Izajuicer Sun, 26 Aug 2007 21:28:47 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/08/05/update-sean-sherk-files-for-extension-on-steroid-hearing/#comment-135415 Craig, You have made claims with no basis in fact.1) The test is perfectly valid and NO ONE has ever proven it to be "flawed scientifically". A bunch of juicers make specious claims based on anecdotal evidence and you swallow it hook, line and sinker. 2) The CSAC does not gain a thing by suspending an athlete. It is performing it's duty prescribed BY LAW. 3) False and also irrelevant. 4) Irrelevant 5) Absolutely FALSE. Sean Sherk has been taking "supplements" that contain anabolic steroids. The fact he was too lazy to verify that his supplements were clean is HIS problem, and NOT that of the CSAC. His suspension will be upheld. http://www.drugfreesport.com/insight.asp?VolID=39&TopicID=7 http://www.physiquecompetitor.com/article_KnowYourSupplements.htm http://www.edb.utexas.edu/ssn/SN_Papers/IOC%20alert-Supplement.pdf Craig,

You have made claims with no basis in fact.1) The test is perfectly valid and NO ONE has ever proven it to be “flawed scientifically”.
A bunch of juicers make specious claims based on anecdotal evidence and you swallow it hook, line and sinker.

2) The CSAC does not gain a thing by suspending an athlete.
It is performing it’s duty prescribed BY LAW.

3) False and also irrelevant.

4) Irrelevant

5) Absolutely FALSE.

Sean Sherk has been taking “supplements” that contain anabolic steroids.

The fact he was too lazy to verify that his supplements were clean is HIS problem, and NOT that of the CSAC.

His suspension will be upheld.

http://www.drugfreesport.com/insight.asp?VolID=39&TopicID=7

http://www.physiquecompetitor.com/article_KnowYourSupplements.htm

http://www.edb.utexas.edu/ssn/SN_Papers/IOC%20alert-Supplement.pdf

]]> By: UFC Ring Girls and Fight News » Report: Sherk to be 'stripped of his crown' if steroids appeal is denied http://mmamania.com/2007/08/05/update-sean-sherk-files-for-extension-on-steroid-appeal-hearing/comment-page-2/#comment-133620 UFC Ring Girls and Fight News » Report: Sherk to be 'stripped of his crown' if steroids appeal is denied Fri, 24 Aug 2007 18:44:47 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/08/05/update-sean-sherk-files-for-extension-on-steroid-hearing/#comment-133620 [...] UFC President Dana White reiterated his stance that lightweight champion Sean Sherk would be stripped of his 155-pound title if the California State Athletic Commission (CSAC) shoots down his steroids appeal in October, according to FOXSports.com. [...] [...] UFC President Dana White reiterated his stance that lightweight champion Sean Sherk would be stripped of his 155-pound title if the California State Athletic Commission (CSAC) shoots down his steroids appeal in October, according to FOXSports.com. [...]

]]> By: Craig Zula http://mmamania.com/2007/08/05/update-sean-sherk-files-for-extension-on-steroid-appeal-hearing/comment-page-2/#comment-128717 Craig Zula Sat, 18 Aug 2007 00:32:02 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/08/05/update-sean-sherk-files-for-extension-on-steroid-hearing/#comment-128717 A few things. U @ho's who think you know he's guilty need to wait. You should also know a few facts: 1) The testing is flawed scientifically 2) The testing is performed by a party that would gain by a guilty verdict..the commission. They get a huge fine paid to them. in what other area would this be acceptable??? isnt this conflict of interest? yes! 3) Dozens of other fights tested higher than sean and were later cleared...again, flawed testing system. 4) Sean tested 6 above normal, so he was at a 12. The others later cleared were in the 40's. 5) lastly, these levels can be achieved naturally by have a strenuous hardcore work out schedule...which sean has! peace out. all this is true, stop being a part of the mob and think for yourselves! Get your crap straight, sean is clean and works hard!!! A few things. U @ho’s who think you know he’s guilty need to wait. You should also know a few facts:
1) The testing is flawed scientifically
2) The testing is performed by a party that would gain by a guilty verdict..the commission. They get a huge fine paid to them. in what other area would this be acceptable??? isnt this conflict of interest? yes!
3) Dozens of other fights tested higher than sean and were later cleared…again, flawed testing system.
4) Sean tested 6 above normal, so he was at a 12. The others later cleared were in the 40’s.
5) lastly, these levels can be achieved naturally by have a strenuous hardcore work out schedule…which sean has!

peace out. all this is true, stop being a part of the mob and think for yourselves! Get your crap straight, sean is clean and works hard!!!

]]> By: Pat http://mmamania.com/2007/08/05/update-sean-sherk-files-for-extension-on-steroid-appeal-hearing/comment-page-2/#comment-122312 Pat Thu, 09 Aug 2007 02:58:33 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/08/05/update-sean-sherk-files-for-extension-on-steroid-hearing/#comment-122312 [quote comment="122169"][quote comment="121065"][quote post="2945"]Sherk admittedly takes 26 supplements per day![/quote] He is ridiculous. That alone isn't 'natural' to me.[/quote] Under that definition, how many pro athletes in *any* sport are "natural"? It isn't about being natural, it is about being the best you can and hopefully only taking things that you can within the rules. To be at the top of your sport these days, you can't just down some raw eggs in the morning and be ready. Enter the new millenia buddy.[/quote] Well even if he only took supplements, he still broke the rules. Why the hell does it matter if he did using one syringe or a dozen pills? [quote comment="122169"][quote comment="121065"][quote post="2945"]Sherk admittedly takes 26 supplements per day![/quote]

He is ridiculous. That alone isn’t ‘natural’ to me.[/quote]

Under that definition, how many pro athletes in *any* sport are “natural”? It isn’t about being natural, it is about being the best you can and hopefully only taking things that you can within the rules. To be at the top of your sport these days, you can’t just down some raw eggs in the morning and be ready. Enter the new millenia buddy.[/quote]

Well even if he only took supplements, he still broke the rules. Why the hell does it matter if he did using one syringe or a dozen pills?

]]> By: Tom http://mmamania.com/2007/08/05/update-sean-sherk-files-for-extension-on-steroid-appeal-hearing/comment-page-2/#comment-122169 Tom Wed, 08 Aug 2007 21:55:01 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/08/05/update-sean-sherk-files-for-extension-on-steroid-hearing/#comment-122169 [quote comment="121065"][quote post="2945"]Sherk admittedly takes 26 supplements per day![/quote] He is ridiculous. That alone isn't 'natural' to me.[/quote] Under that definition, how many pro athletes in *any* sport are "natural"? It isn't about being natural, it is about being the best you can and hopefully only taking things that you can within the rules. To be at the top of your sport these days, you can't just down some raw eggs in the morning and be ready. Enter the new millenia buddy. [quote comment="121065"][quote post="2945"]Sherk admittedly takes 26 supplements per day![/quote]

He is ridiculous. That alone isn’t ‘natural’ to me.[/quote]

Under that definition, how many pro athletes in *any* sport are “natural”? It isn’t about being natural, it is about being the best you can and hopefully only taking things that you can within the rules. To be at the top of your sport these days, you can’t just down some raw eggs in the morning and be ready. Enter the new millenia buddy.

]]> By: Tom http://mmamania.com/2007/08/05/update-sean-sherk-files-for-extension-on-steroid-appeal-hearing/comment-page-2/#comment-122167 Tom Wed, 08 Aug 2007 21:52:12 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/08/05/update-sean-sherk-files-for-extension-on-steroid-hearing/#comment-122167 "What do you have to prepare for if you are innocent?" You have got to be kidding, right? Even if one is innocent, coming out OK in a legal or administrative proceeding is more than just showing up and saying "your honor, I am innocent". It takes time to prepare a defense, even for the innocent. This is even more so in a case like this that involves scientific evidence as to testing, etc. “What do you have to prepare for if you are innocent?”

You have got to be kidding, right? Even if one is innocent, coming out OK in a legal or administrative proceeding is more than just showing up and saying “your honor, I am innocent”. It takes time to prepare a defense, even for the innocent. This is even more so in a case like this that involves scientific evidence as to testing, etc.

]]> By: Mark "Lights Out" Matheson http://mmamania.com/2007/08/05/update-sean-sherk-files-for-extension-on-steroid-appeal-hearing/comment-page-2/#comment-121387 Mark "Lights Out" Matheson Tue, 07 Aug 2007 23:41:33 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/08/05/update-sean-sherk-files-for-extension-on-steroid-hearing/#comment-121387 [quote comment="120660"][quote comment="120627"][quote comment="120537"]Boot the bum out. He's BOOOORING as f*** to watch anyway lol[/quote] Good f*cking point!!!!.....Hes trying to stall to get some more fights...Oh sorry i mean hold someone down for 25 minutes an dget some cash....Sherk give it up your guilty!!!![/quote] man you guys are the reason people do not take mma seriously. It is not the job of the athlete to stop his opponent it is to win, I really do not understand how you cant give him props for being one of the most dominant fighters in the sport. Thats just like not liking a football team that always shuts out their opponent but only plays strong defense and runs the ball or a basketball team like the spurs.[/quote] Are you kidding me!!!....Id love to see what kind of a fighter you are to think its enjoyable to watch some hold down an opponent for 25 min....besides have him losse the juice then see if he can dominate and hold someone down...your the reason why people dont take MMA seriously....are you even a Fighter??!! [quote comment="120660"][quote comment="120627"][quote comment="120537"]Boot the bum out. He’s BOOOORING as f*** to watch anyway lol[/quote]

Good f*cking point!!!!…..Hes trying to stall to get some more fights…Oh sorry i mean hold someone down for 25 minutes an dget some cash….Sherk give it up your guilty!!!![/quote]
man you guys are the reason people do not take mma seriously. It is not the job of the athlete to stop his opponent it is to win, I really do not understand how you cant give him props for being one of the most dominant fighters in the sport. Thats just like not liking a football team that always shuts out their opponent but only plays strong defense and runs the ball or a basketball team like the spurs.[/quote]

Are you kidding me!!!….Id love to see what kind of a fighter you are to think its enjoyable to watch some hold down an opponent for 25 min….besides have him losse the juice then see if he can dominate and hold someone down…your the reason why people dont take MMA seriously….are you even a Fighter??!!

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