Ohhhh The UFC Withdrawls !

Am I the only one who would MUCH rather see Guida/Aurelio or even Babalu/Heath than watch Huerta fight another UFC newbie??

I guess making the cover of SI will guarantee you a spot on the televised card, even if you’re fighting a ten-year-old kid with a broken arm.

ummm am I on my own with this one or does anyone else notice that a reminder on coverage and blow by blow commentary is just a wee bit premature?? THE PAY PERVIEWS CLOSE TO A MONTH AWAY STILL!! Maybe we should get some more Randy Couture game plans and interviews where they ask him the same questions about how he beat Tim Sylvia and his game plan for Gonzaga. Or better yet more Gonzaga training montages with follow up questions about his crop cop knockout and game plans for Randy!! OHHH BABY THINGS ARE HEATING UP NOW! ANyone have any vid’s of serra doing plyometric training for his fight in December it’s right around the corner. Sorry guys just frustrated I need my monthly doasge of mma.

huerta vs guida! way more interesting

[quote comment="117200"]ummm am I on my own with this one or does anyone else notice that a reminder on coverage and blow by blow commentary is just a wee bit premature?? THE PAY PERVIEWS CLOSE TO A MONTH AWAY STILL!! Maybe we should get some more Randy Couture game plans and interviews where they ask him the same questions about how he beat Tim Sylvia and his game plan for Gonzaga. Or better yet more Gonzaga training montages with follow up questions about his crop cop knockout and game plans for Randy!! OHHH BABY THINGS ARE HEATING UP NOW! ANyone have any vid’s of serra doing plyometric training for his fight in December it’s right around the corner. Sorry guys just frustrated I need my monthly doasge of mma.[/quote]

That’ll all come. By the time this thing starts heating up, I’ll be slammed. I had some time this morning so I just got the reminder out of the way. Use it as a chance to talk about the fights. I, for one, am very upset about the Guida-Aurelio bout being on the undercard. I’d like to see Babalu over Grove-Cote, too.

Plus, Couture as an underdog is news that I havent passed along yet … it’s a good bet for folks to lock in those odds.

I’m done explaining myself. Have at it.

Creeks: I hear u man…. this waiting period has been tough… I hoe to never have to wait this long in between events again. From August 24 – September 22 should be a very fun time for us fans…

I really wanted to c “maximus” Aurelio vs guida… that fight has fireworks written all over it..

I dont give a shit about huerta untill the UFC puts him to the test against a quality opponent(garcia had heart), but I wanna c him fight stevenson, or ken – flow. Time to find out if huerta is ready to climb the lightweight ranks. He had enough warm up fights… I wanna c him get tested!

The first thing I thought was Roger Huerta vs ANOTHER Newbie is televised and Clay Guida vs Marcus Aurelio is not. WHAT A JOKE. Does Dana have a Mexican Man Crush on Huerta and that’s why he was on the SI cover and the reason that he hasn’t fought a UFC veteran since, well I can’t even remember when. Huerta should knock this scrub out rather quickly, and if he doesn’t, Huerta should be on the undercards until he fights against top 5 talent.

On the other hand, EVERY Clay Guida fight has been Top Notch.

For those of you who don’t know who Marcus Aurelio is, he was a STUD in the PRIDE LW division. He submitted Gomi to give him his first loss in PRIDE, and then he lost to Gomi in a rematch in an extremely close split decision.

Guida is a much more well rounded fighter than Huerta, and you can’t even compare the skill and experience levels of Alberto Crane and Marcus Aurelio. So the only logical explanation would be that Huerta is a handsome fellow who Dana is trying to market (possibly to get some of that female demographic to watch more UFC). Huerta is especially handsome when compared to Clay ‘the Geico Caveman’ Guida.

Every fight has at least one guy that I want to see fight. Must show all of them !

Kevin “cuts” Kelly

Hopefully more fights will air than last time because there are a few good undercard fights. I don’t see there being a bunch of decisions in these first few fights…Hopefully we’ll see more than the 4 or 5 fights that were televised last time.

Funny how it doesnt even say Randy vs Gonzaga on the main card fight. I guess they forgot to put the main event on there..lol

Completely laughing my ass off right now Violent Mike, “handsome fellow” and “geico caveman are now ufcmania instant classics. Gotta say though, even as we all know Clay Guida is a better all around fighter now, his UFC record is 1-2. It does seem to me that they give him extremely tough opponents. Did he sleep with Dana White’s girlfriend or something because he doesnt catch a break. Auriello is a tough MF.

They are bring Huerta along very slow like Ive said. He will probably have another tune up fight after this (UFC newbie) and then face someone like a Frankie Edgar or the loser of the Din Thomas / Spencer Fischer fight.

Guys who are possible oppoenents for Huerta after this fight

1. Another UFC newbie
2. Frank Edgar
3. Tyson Griffen
4. Loser of Spencer Fischer / Din Thomas fight

Sherk being the champ cant fight him since he has a date with BJ Penn, Joe Stevenson and Kenny Florian are a level above him in the standings so any one of the above mentioned would make a nice fit.

Kevin “cuts” Kelly

[quote comment="117244"]Funny how it doesnt even say Randy vs Gonzaga on the main card fight. I guess they forgot to put the main event on there..lol[/quote]

“Here’s how the rest of the night will look”

Of course Couture-Gonzage will be aired. It wasn’t forgotten, we added the rest of the fights after we went into detail on the main event.

How the hell does: Marcus Aurelio (14-4) vs. Clay Guida (21-8) end up on the undercard???

[quote comment="117252"][quote comment="117244"]Funny how it doesnt even say Randy vs Gonzaga on the main card fight. I guess they forgot to put the main event on there..lol[/quote]

“Here’s how the rest of the night will look”

Of course Couture-Gonzage will be aired. It wasn’t forgotten, we added the rest of the fights after we went into detail on the main event.[/quote]
yeah im an idiot…lol

Well I too, am a bit dissapointed about Guide and Aurelio being on the undercard. The Kendall Grove and Patrick Cote fight I dont care as much about. Most any middleweight fights that arent championship or number 1 contender spot isnt worth watching over any other fight from a different division.

guys i hope you have seen the war between huerta and matt wiman.

the guys a battler, and fun to watch.

and on top of that, crane is a bb in jiu jitu, and a mundials champ as an american. that puts him with BJ Penn.

Well put C-war, Kendall Groove is still an undercard type fighter and considering that he is fighting Patrick Cote, this is more of a fight you would see on Spike tv.

155 pounders put on way more exciting fights than 185 pounders, so aside from Kendall Groove being a “name” why else would his fight be aired ? He hasnt has one fight where fans had their jaws wide open.

Clay Guida versus Marcus Aureilo is going to be a true war and definitly top five fights of the year.

Except when he got rocked by Anderson Silva****

I didn’t realize just how weak this PPV actually is. I mean,especially since we had to wait like 7 weeks for it. Then we have another PPV just 2 weeks after this one. With 7 weeks between PPV’s, they should give us a good one.

The fights I care about:
Randy/Gabe = of freakin course

GSP/KOS = I just want to see at least one of them get hurt very badly. Unfortunately for KOS, it will be him.

Guida/Aurelio = The BEST fight on this card by far!

Stevenson/Pellegrino – ONLY because if Stevenson wins, when Sherk is stripped of the belt, this win should put Stevenson into a fight vs Penn for the vacant belt. Or if Stevenson wins, he can then fight either the winner of Fisher/Din or the upcoming fight between Thiago Tavarez / Tyson Griffin to see who fights BJ for vacant belt.

Those are the 4 fights I want to see for sure! And I bet that a lot of you would agree.

Then, time permitting, show me, in order:
Grove/Cote
Babalu/Heath
Huerta/Crane

That would be 7 fights. Of course they should show us every fight on the card, but that will NEVER happen.

But am really pissed that Guida/Aurelio is not on the main card. I mean how many people think that the GSP/KOS fight will be a better fight than this one? Cuz I don’t even need to ask if it will be better than the Huerta/Crane, Stevenson/Pellegrino, and Grove/Cote fights. That can just go without saying.

[quote post="2904"]Completely laughing my ass off right now Violent Mike, “handsome fellow” and “geico caveman are now ufcmania instant classics. Gotta say though, even as we all know Clay Guida is a better all around fighter now, his UFC record is 1-2. It does seem to me that they give him extremely tough opponents. Did he sleep with Dana White’s girlfriend or something because he doesnt catch a break. Auriello is a tough MF.[/quote]

I know Kevin. In a recent thread, from yesterday, I was writing about Clay Guida and his decieving record. I think it was in the Drago thread. Because he is 1-3 in the UFC, and some was saying that Drago is the man. I was laughing at him saying that anyone that is 1-3 in the UFC is NOT the man. With the lone exception being if Clay Guida has another Griffin-esque fight with Aurelio and loses another close split decision. He would then be 1-3.

Does Dana White have a girlfriend? He seems way to self-centered to even think about another person, if it that person was someone that would blow him multiple times a day and take it every which way. ALL Dana cares about is making money off of MMA.

Absolutely love the 155 pound division. So many possibilities. Lets for the rcord assume that Sean Sherk is cleared which very well will happen.

Championship fight
Sean Sherk vs. BJ Penn

Joe Stevenson vs. Kurt Pellegrino – providing he wins, Joe becomes clear # 1 contender.

Kenny Florian ? Needs to fight a top ten guy to become the clear # 2 or # 3 guy … How about putting him up against Frank Edgar who I think is ranked at # 5 seems like a solid indicator of what could be.

Din Thomas who I have ranked currently at # 3 needs to be Spencer Fischer who is a top ten guy TO MAKE A CASE FOR TITLE CONTENTION. If Spencer Fischer does in fact win, a fight with Joe Stevenson seems likely considering both will have the same amount of rest time before their next fights.
(Possible #1 contender match)

If BJ Penn loses to Sean Sherk, I think having him fight Clay Guida or Maximus Aureilo, whoever wins, would be a nice step up for one of those guys.

A solid match up to get away from the UFC newbies that Joe Silva throws at Roger Huerta would be to have him fight Tysen Griffen, or when he comes back at the end of the year Melvin Guillard spells FIREWORKS.

It seems so far out, but when this event hits we will 3 others in a 4 week period. Loving that idea

I see two fights in the undercard I’d rather see than Kendall and Cote. Sobral and Heath, and Guida against Aurelio. They always seem to do that atleast one time per UFC, last time they didn’t air Frank Edgar pummeling Bocek.

UFC needs to sign more top 10 LW. I think they r just trying to b lazy n promote the lightweights they have and eventually squeezing them into the top 10… It wont be ligit, because they haven brought any pride LW except aurelio.

THey gotta get:
Gomi
Ishida
Kawajiri
akoi
gilbert “el nino”
“Mach” Sakurai
Shoalin
If they wanna legitimize the division
Is dana gonna bring back nick diaz (warrior)

And get some damn middleweights in the UFC! im hearing rumors that hendo will stay at LHW. Big mistake the middleweight division needs hm bad. who else is ever gonna challenge The spidai, plus I wouldnt mind seeing Hendo destroy Rich Franklin

[quote post="2904"]But am really pissed that Guida/Aurelio is not on the main card. I mean how many people think that the GSP/KOS fight will be a better fight than this one? [/quote]
I do, and I like Guida, but it’s not even a questions of who should be on the main card, (GSP or Guida).GSP always has exciting fights, even when he loses.

i would like to be there

snap, tap, or go to sleep.

disapointed, LOL huerta could break a wet bag with those spaghetti armpunches. Crane is going to either suffocate huerta,or he will make him tap do to arm locks. Review Crane’s fights and tell me differently, he is a world champion in grappling. Crane might not have fought in the UFC but don’t hate on level of competition when Huerta has fought four times in the ufc and still not fought anyone on the whose whose list of mma.

doug evans was whooping huerta. huerta is a ok fighter with great build up no show hype. If you watched their fight evans was embarrassed after having lost with no damage being done by huerta’s non existent punching power, even when he has an opponents back. Evans with more submission knowledge could have ended that fight in round one. Crane wins! via choke sorry roger you pansey there will be no more illustrated covers for you.

Dude, this fight is a guaranteed win for Alberto. I trained with him in New Mexico, and he is a TRUE BAD ASS. Anyone who thinks Crane is just another newbie is about to be slapped in the face.

If Randy loses, this will b the worst weekend ever. I have to put my dog down in a few days because of kidney failure. I just watched UFC 68 THE UPRISING, when Randy won the HW title. I’m really pulling for my hero to beat the odds again. If I ever needed him, I need him to come through for me 2nite.

To all those who are saying Crane will beat Huerta…what?!? Crane’s previous opponents have a combined losing record. The best opponent he has ever faced “Javier Vasquez” tore his acl in the first round and Crane still couldnt finish him…It went to a split decision. Doug Evans is an incredible wrestler, Crane is not. Huerta will be able to dictate where this fight goes and will probably tko Crane in the first. There are reasons the odds are heavy in favor of Huerta.

Huerta is one of the “protected” he’s deffo expected to win this fight…but this is MMA, anything could happen. Though i think he is a young fighter that will deff get better. So like Bisbing it’s not a bad thing that he’s working his way through the lesser fighters, all of the protected will have to stand up and be counted one day, there seems to be a lot of bashing on this site, but do ANY of the fighters get to “pick” their fights? I doubt it. Maybe some fights get influenced by hype which results in certain fighters getting what they want.. Bottom line for me personally is that we get to see good fights all in good time…

You can’t tell me you’re not all looking forward to Couture Gonzaga tonight… Then Henderson n Rampage…

I just can’t wait for W.Sylva to get in the mix….sick shiz

Guida is up 20-18 through 2 rounds.
Supposedly, we all thought Guida won against Griffin as well.

GUIDA WINS UNANIMOUS DECISION!

GO CAVEMAN!

Yeah GUIDA iz da MAN!!!

Hell ya, go Guida!

Man, a impressive performance by Thales, what a beautiful armbar finish in round 1.

Can you say Submission of the Night?

“Mr. NC-17″

You watching this fight live, bud?

I’m 2 for 2 so far. Keep it coming baby. Just like me!!!

I got a friend actually there, and he is in the 2nd row, and his phone has a camera on it, and it records up to five minutes, so after the first round he sends it to me, so I am catching some undercard bouts =p
Must love phones.

is there anyone out there that will stand along side me and think koschech and gonzaga will come out victorious

I Hope “The Real” Frank Mir shows up, I really miss THAT Frank Mir in the Octagon.

Mir won’t b breaking nobody’s arm 2nite though.

I dunno he could snap Hardonk’s arm, that would be great.

I really hope the cameras show Brock Lesnar right before the Couture fight tonight.

Mania, too bad you dont live in Cincinnati, you could of joined me when Rich Franklin throws an American Fighter Debut Party, its going to be sweet.

whats the whole story behind the old mir and new mir i know he was in a accident but thats it

NC – 17: Who’s fighting now? Mir? or babalu” and if u got any new info please keep us up to date. That awesome that u got to c some of the action, I know aurelio lost, but how did he look?

I almost ate my words…THE REAL MIR IZ BACK!!!!

NC – 17: Who’s fighting now? Mir? or babalu” and if u got any new info please keep us up to date. That awesome that u got to c some of the action, I know aurelio lost, but how did he look?

Mir via submission in round one!

John, Babalu is up now.

Hey I Bread, guess what happened?

Mir won via Kimura.

Go Figure.

THE REAL FRANK MIR IS BACK!

Mir just won with a kimura in the first. babalu is next.

Mr. NC-17″ what was the time and round mir had won in

Nevermind, they just posted Frank Mir gets the win by Kimura.

Anyone know whats goin on in the babalu fight?

Nevermind, they just posted Frank Mir gets the win by Kimura.

Anyone know whats goin on in the babalu fight?

Not up yet. Stay tuned.

ELW I just checked Sherdog to see the offical time of the bout, Mir won in 1 Minute and 17 Seconds.

nc-17, THAT WAS WEIRD…WE SAID THE SAME THING AT THE SAME TIME!!!
wHO WINS….SOBRAL OR HEATH?
I SAY bABALU WINS BY SUB IN THE SECOND ROUND.

A TON of money is coming in on Gonzaga the last few days, and today, and has gone from underdog to favorite. Couture went from being a -160 favorite to a 150 dog. That takes alot of money to move lines like that so we shall see if the late money is the smart money. Let’s hope it’s a good fight either way.

awesome

Bread, Babalu really needs this win, and I think he wins with a Round 1 Knockout, Simple put.

He needs this more than ever, and I really want him to win.

Randy LOVES b-ing the underdog! His time to shine!

I think heath has upset potential. Dunno which Babalu will show up to fight.

idk babalu is a great fighter or once was a great fighter before liddel and lambert but i doubt he will ever get a title shot again look at the lwh division its stacked but hey u never know he is a very tough guy he did go 3 rounds with fedor so anything can happen

Babalu is exactly like a GSP, you never know what fighter is going to show up. You can get the Babalu that wins 11 straight, or you get the Babalu that shows up, and decides he wants to stand and box with a boxer in Lambert, it makes no sense.

Babalu is great though, BUT this is a MUST WIN for him, if he loses he might be in WEC.

NC 17: What is your boy saying about the guida fight? did he deserve the split decision win, or did he get it because the judges had screwed him out of other decisions? Was it the war that many off us expected? I really wanted to c that fight on the main card!

Babalu went straight for the takedown, Babalu not looking very impressive right now as I can tell on this.

MrNC-17, I thought this would b a nite of the old-schoolers….Randy,Mir, and Babalu…that’ll suck if he loses!

John he said Guida deserved the Unanimous, but only got the split.

I feel racism towards Clay Guida, considering he is one of the few cavemen still alive.

Here’s the odds from todays fight(s) as of 5:00 P.M. via The Venetian Race and Sports book:

Randy Couture -150
Vs.
Gabriel Gonzaga 180

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Roger Huerta -400
Vs.
Alberto Crane 300

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Josh Koscheck 210
Vs.
Georges St-Pierre -270

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Kurt Pellegrino 240
Vs.
Joe Stevenson -320

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Patrick Cote 220
Vs.
Kendall Grove -300

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Ryan Jensen 220
Vs.
Thales Leites -300

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Renato Sobral -240
Vs.
David Heath 190

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Frank Mir -190
Vs.
Antoni Hardonk 160

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Clay Guida -135
Vs.
Marcus Aurelio 105

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Bread, Babalu won the first round by position Heath was on his back for the first round for the most part.

i really appreciate the updates. im stuck down the beach on my laptop with my girl. no ppv here!

Come on Babalu…I don’t care if the fans hate your tactics…get the win!

cdubb at least you are at the beach with your girl, there is no better place than that my friend.

NC17: thanks for the updates!

anybody givin koscheck a chance? GSP is the ultimate example of an MMA skillset, but he’s prone to lapses of talent….so what do you guys think? this is one of the fights i’ve been lookin forward to since it was posted….not a huge fan of either of them, but i am a fan of a good bout, and this has the makings of one.

this is cool but isn’t there a radio feed anywhere we can pick up like listening to a ball game…or the old time fights?

JDub I have Koscheck winning.
I think he will blanket GSP to victory, and you know what I hope he does.

this is cool but isn’t there a radio feed anywhere we can pick up like listening to a ball game…or the old time fights?

No.

BABALU WINS ANDACONA CHOKE!

BABALU IS ALIVE!

GSP by submission….

that is true but she is sick sleeping on the sofa. we were at dinner watching the ravens game and then going to a bar for ufc and she got sick. good thing i love her! haha

Anyone else pulling for GSP?

lets go Babalu!

i feel about the same nc-17, but look out for gsp, he always has a good showing after gettin his butt whipped

Babalu showed no class at the end of the fight, he held in the choke for an extended time after the fight and Steve Mazagatti had to forefully pull Babalu off Heath, Babalu could have killed him.

The fans are booing hardcore against Babalu for not showing class, he had to of held that choke in 10 seconds after he tapped and Steve tried to stop.
10 Seconds.

Well guys I am off to go downstairs to catch the fight I will be back on after Napao defeats randy.

HAVE FUN GUYS!

Renato “Babalu” Sobral defeats David Heath via submission (anaconda choke) in round two. Babalu held the choke after Heath tapped for a very long time. Fans aren’t happy with Babalu.

I can see fines being handed down to Babalu and possibly a suspension for that unessacary choke he held on Heath, he should of changed the decision to a no contest,
Horrible show of classman ship by Babalu.

Holding a choke 10 seconds later and Steve forefully trying to save Heath from dying.

i really wanted to see GSP and KOschek. I like them both but GSP is more skilled and gets the win. KOS will have the belt one day though.

im goin with nc-17 on this Koscheckis gonna win i dont think gsp will hav eit in him he seems more timid now then he did before he won the belt u know the usual goin up to people after their fights and telling thyem he isnt impressed

I’m happy with Babalu.

you know what, bobalu is acting just like royce gracie used to, and everyone loved him. i saw ufc 2 in tulsa in 96, and gracie held on to one arm bar after a tap until it almost broke in half, and choked another guy for 10 or 15 seconds after he tapped….brazillian ego’s?!?

i use to like sobral. thats pretty gay what he did

I have GSP and GG winning by submission tonight.

the natural won’t get tapped. the big SOB may beat him, but he can’t make him tap. that guy has too much heart to lose the belt by making a silly mistake.

hey what happened in the leites jensen fight?

i mean how did it happen?

what fight is up next?

Cote and Grove up next

cudbb the next fight is grove and cote

Who is fighting now? Will anyone be giving updates for the Stevenson and/or GSP fights?

Gonna laugh if Cote pulls off a KO.

Cote takes the center of the cage and unloads with a right hand. The Canadian pushes Grove against the fence and in true Cote fashion, does nothing. Referee Herb Dean separates the fighters and restarts the action. Grove lands a solid kick to the midsection.

cote is a talented guy, but he hardly ever wins against anyone with talent…i’m noy sure kendall grove is any good either, he’s just alot bigger than anyone in that division. this is a weak matchup at best, way to go ufc for finding two wieners in the same weight class and MAKING them fight….should be to the death…….

Patrick Cote defeats Kendall Grove via technical knockout (strikes) in round one

HAHAHAHAHAH

Cote, again against the fence, tries to lift Grove into the air but the TUF winner has none of it. Grove separates and lands a punch combo followed by a kick to the body. Cote then unleashes a big right hand that drops Grove to the mat. Cote pounces and after giving up on a rear-naked choke, pounds away until Dean steps in to save Grove at 4:45 of the first.

da spyder got stomped

someond squashed da spider like the roach he is

that sucks for Kendall…was rooting for him.

Thanks for the update guys. will be refreshing page all night.

am i the only one disappointed with most of the tuf fighters?

Couture is pretty impressive at 44 years of age. Gotta give the guy props for stamina.

Crossing my fingers for GSP to win tonight

So is joe stevenson next ?

i dont think grove prepared for this fight very well i thiunk he took it lightley

if he did he’s an idiot. He is suppose to be a professional and Cote has power and i guess he found that out.

I am sooo pumped Brandon Vera is back!!!

is anyone else having problems trying to watch it online?

whether you like Couture or not you have to respect that guy. I am just hoping to still be walking at his age.

i dissagree with you elw189 josh hassent faced any good opponent now has he??? george has had some good copition. josh hassent faced any talent yet.

stevenson up next?

GSP and Matt Serra re-match in the spring?
That will be a fight NOT to be missed. GSP has to get his revenge

Props to Couture…but I think he hangs it up tonight with a 1st round loss…

i don’t think it will be serra defending the title then

i respect coture but i dont think he is gonna walk outa his fight feeling tooo good

I think any win from now on for Couture will be gravy, but the guy is actually improving with age so who knows…there’s been a lot of surprises

Gonzaga is going to gas. It’s undeniable.

Couture via decision!

well. gsp will win convincing tonight. coutore will win in the 5th round

hey boys how long till the st pierre fight?

no randys walking away with this one… his game is still solid havent you guys seen what he did to tim silvia??? thats sayin somthing need i say more???

Anyone else feel like UFC is pumping Gab more than Couture? Listening to the interviews, seems they are hoping for a Gonzoga win.

what are thoughts on the silva/franklin rematch.

so what’s the future for tito ortiz?

hi
please tell me whats going on?

I’d put money on Couture

KneeToTheFace… awesome screen name… wishful thinker I’m affraid.

i aggree kneetotheface randy wins!!!!!!!!! he still has it…after beating the shit outta TIM SILVIA who can question his skills?

who is fighting?!?!

silva will once again destroy franklin like he has every match in the UFC thus far. franklin looks like gizmo from gremlins!!!

i grew up with dana and lorenzo lol i could tell u stories lol

Gonzaga’s should feel lucky to be there at all, even though i’m glad he won, his win over cro cop was a complete fluke.

ill put my money on gabe

Is anyone watching it online. I tried to get in at about 10:15ET and the website is incredibly slow. I am beginning to worry that Zuffa and Dana White are so worried about making money that they are not keeping up the server that supports the web purchases.

joe daddy wins…

i hope couture wins but i think the younger gonzaga pulls it out

Silva is unbeatable…

so here comes josh koscheck and GSP what are your opinions….my moneys on GSP josh is gettin smashed tonight!!!

anyone there?

i believe koscheck will take gps…if gps does win..it will be by some kinda choke

lorenzo joe fertitta and dana white the don kings of mma

koshcheck round two tko

i disagree…if you look back, franklin was doing well in the standup battle…but i think he was surprised at silva’s clinch…he will be ready next time around…franklin regains his title.

KOS has a chance just because he’s a psycho and incrediably strong… Just think he’s going to rush into something stupid and get dropped then tapped….

im gonna say GSP by armbar in 2nd

silvia it just a tall fighter and thats it he suks

franklin will NEVER beat silva…silva owns him….

kos should def take it to the ground…he’ll dominate there…dont think its smart to stand with gsp…not when your ground game is that superior..

gonzaga has one good win he hasnt beat anyone else big deal a brutal kick and now hes one of the best heavyweights lol get a clue only reason he has a slim chance is rcs age and the fact he isnt a true heavyweight lol the reason there pumpiing him is to sell tickets lol he isnt even a top 5 hwt

I’m a GSP fan..but I have a feeling he’s going down tonight. I think he may have met his match

saying silva sucks might be the most retardest thing ive ever heard. He’s a stud and has ran through all of his fights. Franklin has no way of beating him and might as well save time and change weight classes

and by the way tim silva is brutal i know a few bar fighters that would knock him out

man kendall lost that suks

what does josh koscheck have though!!!! Im in all that people are taking this guy seriously and giving him a chance…i kno anythings possible however josh hassent faced anyboddy good…if it wassent for facing diego sanchez no oned take him seriouly because he hassent beet anyone with REAL TALENT!!! Diego sanchez was sick so i give josh only minimal credit on that one. My money is he cant compete with the REAL MMA STARS such ass George ST. peirre any one aggree?

i think crocop is still laying in the octogon!! have no clue how his leg dident break…he got his eyes ripped out!!

If Gonzaga wins, whos next for him….the silva vs vera winner, or will Dana White bring in a real fighter like Fedor Emelianenko?

thats because hes off steroids look at his size when he was in pride compared to gonzaga fight thats the reason j barnett got booted from ufc years ago and went to pride

anybody think griffin will make it a fight with rua

another zuffa pump up no chance

you can see definite improvement with josh…however, hasn’t been tested with a top 10 opponent other than diego…which i think diego had the wrong gameplan going in …instead of trying to show off his hand skills, he should have stuck to what he does best…clinch, knee, pound, jj

brandon vera is gonna fight siva? thought he was a heavyweight?

Shoguns gonna make Forest cry again

fedor would destroy gonzaga lol

whoos griffin fighting next?

huerta with yet another win

only thing with rua is the rule change…he won’t be able to be as aggressive as normal…such as the kicking the head and face of a downed opponent, etc…some of his pride fights were just crazy.

What’s happening with the Joe Daddy fight?

Vera is fighting Tim Silva and is going to destroy him. That kid has talent and the attitude to go with it

Koscheck is very fast with his feet. GSP went down pretty quick in his match with Serra so if he goes down again he’s in BIG trouble

griffin is fighting mauricio “shogun” rua next…ranked by mmaweekly as the #1 light heavyweight in the world, above liddell, jackson, etc.

heck yea cdub….b vera will kill silvia…vera’s a tank…

How much longer until Randy fights??

UFC fights in the near future are going to rock, i might even start paying to watch them again…..Wanderlei Silva anyone?

where’s the updates??? show us some love!

PPV killed boxing and it will kill MMA if they dont pull their heads out and start putting some of the big fights on network prim time

PPV killed boxing and it will kill MMA if they dont pull their heads out and start putting some of the big fights on network primtime

whats up on the GSP Kos fight? it start yet?

for real, PPV sucks ass though overseas military get to see these fights live for free

unfortunatly I live off base and I don’t have AFN so I’m tuned to you bastards

I know some fights must be over by now… Stevenson?

Damn hope Kos and GSP dont go to a decision the way rd 1 looked though it might.

stevenson won….gsp took rd 1

yes the kos and GSP fight is underway right now

gsp took rd 2

yes the kos and GSP fight is underway

gps won….unanomus dec.

kos laid an egg!!

So is Gabe Reudiger fighting tonight against couture?

wow i can sleep now. GSP is the shit!

anyone watching the fights?

woo hooo GSP pulled it off. Maybe that Serra re-match will happen after all

Just want to say a big THANK YOU for the updates…much appreciated

i thought kos would be stronger, i thought kendal grove would win, i thought joe daddy would finish, and i knew huerta would win, but no one can ever predict a couture fight

i knew josh wasent prepaired for a fight like Pierre. Josh hassent defeated any good fighters. The best he’s beat is A SICK Sanchez…whoopdy fuckin do!!!

sorry…no serra rematch…will be more like hughes/st. pierre 3, with hughes hopefully avenging his loss.

i knew josh wassent ready for a fight like pierre…he hassent beat anyboddy good…the only good fighter hes beat has bean sanchez but sanchez was sick!!! any one cooduve beat sanchez that day!!! so now whats josh got??? NOTHING!!! go back to wrestling u pussy

YAya GSP WINS but by decision

is the couture gonzaga fight gonna start soon

is the couture fight over yet, anyone

td31..you’re probably right..but a GSP/Serra re-match would be worth waiting for

unbelievable Randy is kicking Gonzaga’s ass. It’s ugly.

wqhen fight start

what do you guys think about diego sanchez???

What do you guy think about Diego Sanchez??? Dont you think he should be in the mix?

what up

Now all the f*cks that posted and hated on GSP saying Kos was gonna knock GSP the f*ck out are gonna be nowehere to be found. GSP is just at a higher skill level in striking and wrestling. I thought Kos was supposed to be so strong in wrestling and GSP cant outwrestle him no way lol. Maybe we will get to see a healthy Diego vs a demoralized Kos now.

Randy broke Gonzagas nose in the first round and then beat him up until a 3rd round stoppage.

Thor1982 i aggree 100 percent!!! DIego needs a tune up fight but he shood be back to the animal he is. I allso think that diego should be looking for A bigtime fight after he gets a couple tune up fights inn, such as Matt Hughs Serra St pierre but mostly a chance at revenge on koscheck when he gets healthy

GSP beat Koz in a smart way…get the win. Not complete domination but he certainly controlled Koz on the ground which nobody expected (including me). What was clear to me was that Koz is not top tier (yet). I’d like to see GSP and Diego now.

How F)$&ing amazing was Couture tonight? He beat up Gonzaga like he was his bitch or something. That was surreal. He beat the living shiat outta that guy. Goes to show that Randy is the real deal and is capable of holding the belt.

GO CAPTAIN AMERICA!!!

omg i dont even no what to say about randy couture i mean idk who hefights now even if fedor i leanin to randys side man he controlled gonzaga who is much larger right now i dont thik no 1 in the heavy weight division in the ufc can beat him

CAPTAIN AMERICA DOES IT AGAIN!!!!!!
STILL THE UFC HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD!

i really wanted to see GSP and KOschek. I like them both but GSP is more skilled and gets the win. KOS will have the belt one day though.

Kos will have the belt, when GSP moves to MW.

I dont care what your defense is, GSP dominated, and you cant argue with that. To hell with Koscheck, who gives a shit what he says. Once it got into “his zone” he was overwhelmed. Not even close….thats what you get for questioning a Canadian boys heart.

man i really would have like to a have seen that fight without the head collision/bloody nose .. i bet randy still would have taken it .. but it would have been a better fight

Oh yeah for the record, GSP is the future of welter……I dont care what you say. Those poor kids, including Koscheck, have never faced a guy like GSP…….good luck kids……..

I see that a lot of people are complaining about Guida vs. Aurelio not being televised but Huerta vs. Newbie is. I have to agree. But I don’t think the Guida fight should be televised. If anything, the Mir vs. Hardonk or the Sobral vs. Heath should have been. You’re talking about either former champions or former challengers in either of these fights. They should have the TV time over Huerta. You really can’t get mad at the fact that Grove and Stevenson are getting the main card fights because they won TUF and deserve to be there. But I think Huerta is going to get a “reality check” when he fights a UFC veteran. I think a good test for Huerta would be BJ Penn. What does everyone think about that??? If not Penn, then Spencer Fisher. But what I’m trying to say is that Huerta needs to fight somebody. He already racked up five wins against nobody’s and in this day and age, five wins is just about the right number for a title shot. I don’t know about antbody else but I don’t want to see someone beat up a few scrubs, get a title shot, and win without even being tested in their previous fights. Any Comments??? Let me know.

Randy is the man!!!!!!!! Broke Gonzagas nose for sure. I just got back from Hooters, so can anyone tell me what St Pierre said after he won? It got ridiculously loud and I couldn’t hear what was said. I saw Dana smile though. Also a side note, Alberto Crane shouldnt be allowed in the UFC anymore, that guy was dead on his feet for three rounds!!! Huge dissapointment, but at least Huerta’s is still on the climb. Great Fights!!!

St Pierre gave Koz a lesson in wrestling tonight. Dominated him.

dont think grove prepared for this fight very well i thiunk he took it lightley

Why ,because he got beat by a better fighter? I don’t see why so many people counted Cote out. He recently beat Jason Macdonald, who in my oppinion is a better fighter than Grove. Sure he lost his first 4 fights in the ufc,but who the hell gets Tito Ortiz in their first UFC fight. He had some tough close fights which he ended up on the losing end. Dana didn’t give up on him for good reason ,the guy has talent.

Who is this JdubMo clown? He must’ve just jumped on the UFCMANIA wagon tonight!

c-war….gsp said that if the ufc came to montreal it would be a great show and the people would go crazy. yeah…josh “my wrestling is the best on earth” koscheck just got shut the fuck up hopefully. such a prick…i loved it when gsp smacked him in the face the entire thrid round then shrugged off a takedown attempt. huerta looked great on the ground defensively tonight and couture was amazing, gonzaga looked like he had gotten in a car crash

kos got his nappy ass hair and shit pushed in by gsp tonight plus couture laid a beating on gonzaga WHEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

A pretty good UFC. I still can’t believe Couture took that kick in the second (i think) round. But one thing. zi saw there was a ton of blood on the mat when the televised part started. Anybody know what that was from?

[quote comment="134789"]UFC fights in the near future are going to rock, i might even start paying to watch them again…..Wanderlei Silva anyone?[/quote]

He got beat by Tito Ortiz in the UFC

Who is the BEST wrestler in the WW div and why is GSP? He owned Kos in Wrestling. I always said GSP was a better wrestler than kos. Maybe now the kos fans will see the truth.

awesome fight tonight… but its kinda funny for all of the posturing that hack Brock loosner did I didn’t see him anywhere in the arena… fuckn punk… congrats to Randy awesome performance

George st. peirre needs to fight Diego when he’s healthy i beleive Diego sanchez is the best fighter out in the welterwheight Devision. Healthy Diego vrs. George Saint pierre i beleive will determine whoos the best…Not to down play Serra but hes really not too good in my opinion. He juss got a luck shot inn. And GSP allready allready beet hughs and kos… Let’s give Diego a shot!!!! Iff youve seen some of Diegos other fights youll see why i thank hes the best. Sanchez vrs Peirre in the future??? what do u guys thank about that one!!

goldilocks got what he deserve…the best attack down in mma? what about the takedown defense of GSP…the match wasnt really exciting..GSP was really tentative in his feet especially in the ist two rounds..i guess thats what you get when you get KTFO…it happened to griffin, to frankilin, to hughes, etc…its hard to put yourself out there on the line of fire when you’ve tasted the floor and you know you gotta to bounce back from the loss..it test the fighter’s hearts…anyways im just happy that loud mouth gay wrestler gets a taste of lay and pray..hehe…

I guess I still can comment on this site! St.Pierre won!!! Randy won!!!! I also picked them to win, I’m on a high right now, YES!!!!!!!!!! randy and gsp are the SHITE!!!!!!

pretty happy with the fights. I didnt expect GG to get pummeled but RC is RC so i guess i should expect anything. All in all im happy with the way the fights went.

Anybody doubting RC should have known better. That’s all I gotta say, I am convinced Randy is not even in his prime yet haha.
And Kos and GSP, I said it in the begining, I never even believe Kos had an advantage in the wrestling, GSP has got some mad skills.

Captain America dished out a beat down. He had GG dazed within the first minute. and that slam was brutal head but or not. Only RC would admit to the head but right after the fight. true class i tell you. ALL I CAN SAY IS, WHOSE NEXT?

karate kid turned collegiate wrestler? i honestly think he could of knocked Kos out on thier feet if he wanted to but he went out of his way to out wrestle “the best wrestler in all of mma” then dominate him in top position. That has to hurt ones ego. i swear gsp layed on him for a couple minutes just to show KOS who’s the bitch hahaha. did anyone else see kos’ face when gsp took him down Priceless!!

Dee
I think you’re crazy to say Sanchez is the best fighter in his weight class. Yes he’s good but has a ton of growing up to do. Hughes is a tough one and (killing me to say this) GSP is the one to beat. Hughes dominated for a few years but got old and cocky. GSP has the skills and the want to win. It’s good to have someone to root for but reality has to set in at some point. In 12-18 months Sanchez will be a more well rounded fighter and will be a contender. Until then…

[quote comment="134833"]What do you guy think about Diego Sanchez??? Dont you think he should be in the mix?[/quote]

No… I don’t…

[quote comment="134924"]George st. peirre needs to fight Diego when he’s healthy i beleive Diego sanchez is the best fighter out in the welterwheight Devision. Healthy Diego vrs. George Saint pierre i beleive will determine whoos the best…Not to down play Serra but hes really not too good in my opinion. He juss got a luck shot inn. And GSP allready allready beet hughs and kos… Let’s give Diego a shot!!!! Iff youve seen some of Diegos other fights youll see why i thank hes the best. Sanchez vrs Peirre in the future??? what do u guys thank about that one!![/quote]
No doubt Diego is a good fighter but best weilterwieght? Give me a break. I would rank the top 7 weilterweights as GSP, Hughes, Koz, Fitch, Diego, Perysian Serra in that order. But no way Diego would have a chance vs GSP.

Let’s face it, there are two/three top welterweights… St. Pierre, Hughes, and Penn… that’s it…

Anyone else think that Randy Couture is actually quite a bit better fighter right now than he was even a few years ago. He’s always been a great fighter but his stand up has looked much improved in his last two fights since he made his comeback. You would think your skills would be diminishing when you were 44 but somehow Couture is still getting better and better.

[quote comment="134836"]Now all the f*cks that posted and hated on GSP saying Kos was gonna knock GSP the f*ck out are gonna be nowehere to be found. GSP is just at a higher skill level in striking and wrestling. I thought Kos was supposed to be so strong in wrestling and GSP cant outwrestle him no way lol. Maybe we will get to see a healthy Diego vs a demoralized Kos now.[/quote]

I suspect same thing will happen to those who are pro-bisping once hamill wins the maincard bout in London. A friend of mine told me that he went to tour Matt Hamill’s Training Center in Utica, NY and saw him training there. He is totally impressed by what he has seen. He was anti-Hamill and now is singing a different tune. It appears that Hamill has added more skill sets to his fighting style and is also fully aware of Bisping’s infamous “flying knee.” His stand up is looking even better as he is training with 3x national champion boxing Kimdu Bethel. Also is training with Ray Newkirk for BJJ skills. This is going to be quite interesting to see how much Matt Hamill has improved this time around.

[quote comment="135022"][quote comment="134836"]Now all the f*cks that posted and hated on GSP saying Kos was gonna knock GSP the f*ck out are gonna be nowehere to be found. GSP is just at a higher skill level in striking and wrestling. I thought Kos was supposed to be so strong in wrestling and GSP cant outwrestle him no way lol. Maybe we will get to see a healthy Diego vs a demoralized Kos now.[/quote]

I suspect same thing will happen to those who are pro-bisping once hamill wins the maincard bout in London. A friend of mine told me that he went to tour Matt Hamill’s Training Center in Utica, NY and saw him training there. He is totally impressed by what he has seen. He was anti-Hamill and now is singing a different tune. It appears that Hamill has added more skill sets to his fighting style and is also fully aware of Bisping’s infamous “flying knee.” His stand up is looking even better as he is training with 3x national champion boxing Kimdu Bethel. Also is training with Ray Newkirk for BJJ skills. This is going to be quite interesting to see how much Matt Hamill has improved this time around.[/quote]

Your havin a laugh! Im not a big bisping fan, but have no doubt in my mind he will dominate hamill…. dominate.

I’m so pumped that GSP won. I had absolutely no doubts in him. It wasn’t quite as impressive as I would have liked to have seen. I knew he’d beat Kos to the punch, I thought he would have got a choke, but he didn’t. He looked pretty good picking Kos apart in the 3rd round but didn’t finish. That was kind of surprising. He pretty much landed blows at will. The one thing that I will give Kos for is he had a pretty good guard. I’ve seen GSP pass just about everyone’s guard with relative ease. I firmly believe the fact that he prevented GSP from passing saved his life tonight because GSP would have killed him.

So now, he’ll probably have to have one more fight and then fight the winner of the Serra/Hughes fight. I’d prefer to see the PPV in Canada that GSP asked for to be his next fight which I think may be Karo.

I’m so pumped that he’s back on track. He looked supremely confident and I thought it was kind of funny to see the look on Kos’s face in the last couple of minutes, it was a look of confusion/fear. I was laughing pretty good.

Anyway, GSP should have his strap back by spring of next year, stop holding the Canadian man down UFC!!! WAR GSP!!!

I’m by no means a koscheck fan but as far as gsp having better wrestling skills is a joke. No wrestler is comfortable on his back. I think that gsp looked scared too exchange on the feet the first two rounds then loosened up in the 3rd. Also which punch was lucky that knocked gsp out in the serra fight ? The first one or the ten other monster hooks that put him out. Serra is a top notch fighter and he’ll prove it in do time. gsp said it perfectly “tonight i got beat by a better fighter” nuff said

By the way, I watched this fight from a bar. Did I hear 2 judges give Kos a round? What the heck was that? Kos had control for about a minute and a half of the first round…Did anyone else see something different?

[quote comment="135080"]By the way, I watched this fight from a bar. Did I hear 2 judges give Kos a round? What the heck was that? Kos had control for about a minute and a half of the first round…Did anyone else see something different?[/quote]

Couldn’t have agreed more. He absolutely dominated that fight. Should have been 30-27 across the board, but who cares really, he won! That takedown defense in the 3rd round was unbelievable. Dominating performane by St. Pierre and the best part about it is that he beat Koscheck at “his game”.

I had doubts about Couture belonging as HWT champ prior to last night but not anymore. He is the real deal. He’s so well prepared for his opponent. He’s definitely one of the greatest ever at any weight.

GSP looked awesome. The difference in skill level was apparent. Koscheck still has some work ahead of him on his overall game. Like Rogaine pointed out, this should give him some pointers. GSP absolutely schooled him (except for 90 seconds of the fight).

Huerta weathered another storm. I can’t believe there are posters on here saying he isn’t for real. He’s been tested in his last two fights by a superior wrestler (Evans) and a superior JJ fighter last night. He doesn’t quit and doesn’t get worried. I agree though- put him in against a top contender soon. He’s earned his path to the top.

Cote really needed that win last night. I wasn’t a big fan of his before but I’m looking forward to his next fight now. And Grove will bounce back. Maybe this is just what the doctor ordered for him.

Stevenson- frankly I don’t really like the guy. He’s like Sherk with some JJ skills and marginally less cardio. Please I hope Sherk gets stripped of his belt because I wouldn’t want to sit through a 25-minute wrestling match between those two.

Overall it was a satisfying night but I wish they would add a couple more fights to the televised portion. Too much BS in between fights.

[quote comment="134983"]Anyone else think that Randy Couture is actually quite a bit better fighter right now than he was even a few years ago. He’s always been a great fighter but his stand up has looked much improved in his last two fights since he made his comeback. You would think your skills would be diminishing when you were 44 but somehow Couture is still getting better and better.[/quote]
Definitely. He said he trains ’smarter’ now. Listens to his body and rests more. Trains specifically for his next opponent maybe more so now.

Looks like he’s getting a nice piece of a$$ now too!

[quote comment="134881"]Randy is the man!!!!!!!! Broke Gonzagas nose for sure. I just got back from Hooters, so can anyone tell me what St Pierre said after he won? It got ridiculously loud and I couldn’t hear what was said. I saw Dana smile though. Also a side note, Alberto Crane shouldnt be allowed in the UFC anymore, that guy was dead on his feet for three rounds!!! Huge dissapointment, but at least Huerta’s is still on the climb. Great Fights!!![/quote]
Crane is definitely a very dangerous JJ guy and he belongs in the UFC. He just has to improve all the other aspects of his game before he fights a top contender again.

Well well well, I am pretty happy reading the results here.

Randy will be probably get a bit of a rest then face off with cro cop after he kills tim.

So GSP comes out in Dominant fashion. I think the welter weight div. is full of talent they just need to get it going. I wonder will swick fight Karo as an intro to the division?

Go Randy… should not have doubted…

[quote comment="135121"]Go Randy… should not have doubted…[/quote]

He was not doubted, nobody said, “Napao is going to steamroll Couture and Couture will die” well, maybe not the educational fan.

COuture on paper against Napao was a bad match-up, and Randy looked INCREDIBLE.

GSP/Koscheck dissapointed me because Koscheck just showed he is not a complete MMA fighter, but the fight was fantastic.

This was a GREAT night of cards.

I learned two things from tonight

Kurt Pelligrino and Alberto Crane need to go train with Randy for endurance entraining.
Disgusting.

GO RANDY!!! his best performance ever! Bring on Arlovski, Bring on Vera! Bring on Cro Cop! I told you guys he would win. To many doubters on this site.

I about had a heart attack when Randy took that head kick! Flashbacks of CroCop lifeless on the mat came back, but the champ shook it off like it was nothing!

Truly a legend in this sport, who even now is making history in MMA at 44. He looks better now than when he was 40.

[quote comment="135133"][quote comment="135121"]Go Randy… should not have doubted…[/quote]

He was not doubted, nobody said, “Napao is going to steamroll Couture and Couture will die” well, maybe not the educational fan.

COuture on paper against Napao was a bad match-up, and Randy looked INCREDIBLE.

GSP/Koscheck dissapointed me because Koscheck just showed he is not a complete MMA fighter, but the fight was fantastic.

This was a GREAT night of cards.

I learned two things from tonight

Kurt Pelligrino and Alberto Crane need to go train with Randy for endurance entraining.
Disgusting.[/quote]

I heard a lot of doubters over the past few months. Very few people were saying Randy would win until just a few days ago. I had no doubt, Randy did what I thought he would do, keep him in the clinch and wear him down.

Did anyone notice the HUGE blood stain in the middle of the octagon! I think that was from the Sobral/Heath undercard fight. Looks like somebody was murdered geez.

Here is a link to the RC GG fight. It should be blocked by 11 am so get it while you can.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaS9OLUi2Bs&eurl=http://www.crocop.de/mirko-filipovic/ftopic80.html

[quote comment="135158"]Here is a link to the RC GG fight. It should be blocked by 11 am so get it while you can.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaS9OLUi2Bs&eurl=http://www.crocop.de/mirko-filipovic/ftopic80.html/quote

I recorded it on DVD. Thats one for the collection.

Anyone see how Mir’s fight went? I knew he won but how good did he look?

Anyone kn ow what find was responsible for the gigantic dried blood stain in the octagon. it was there for all the main card fights. then after the coture fight, you could see it was spotless and no blood. One of the untelevised fights must have been responsible. just curious as to who made the mess.

[quote comment="135068"]I’m by no means a koscheck fan but as far as gsp having better wrestling skills is a joke. No wrestler is comfortable on his back. I think that gsp looked scared too exchange on the feet the first two rounds then loosened up in the 3rd. Also which punch was lucky that knocked gsp out in the serra fight ? The first one or the ten other monster hooks that put him out. Serra is a top notch fighter and he’ll prove it in do time. gsp said it perfectly “tonight i got beat by a better fighter” nuff said[/quote]
LOL “gsp having better wrestling skills is a joke” what fight did you watch? And the punch that won the fight with serra was the one that clipped st.pierre behind the head and messed up his equalibrium(a one in a million hit) then it was easy pickings for serra after that, no fighter in the world could have won under those conditions, unless it was at the end of the round. Serra is a good fighter and under rated but gsp if way out of his league and would beat him 9 out of 10 times, easily. Serra could NEVER beat gsp if it went to a decision even in 100 fights, especially in a 5 round war.

[quote comment="135068"]I’m by no means a koscheck fan but as far as gsp having better wrestling skills is a joke. No wrestler is comfortable on his back. I think that gsp looked scared too exchange on the feet the first two rounds then loosened up in the 3rd. Also which punch was lucky that knocked gsp out in the serra fight ? The first one or the ten other monster hooks that put him out. Serra is a top notch fighter and he’ll prove it in do time. gsp said it perfectly “tonight i got beat by a better fighter” nuff said[/quote]And how did Koz get on his back? Oh yeah cause St Pierre was able to take him down at will and stuff his take down attempts. I would consider takedowns and takedown defense as wrestling skill and say GSP completely out wrestled Koz and is the superior wrestler, but aparently you don’t because somehow you still don’t think GSP is the superior wrestler even though there wrestling abilities weren’t even close. GSP may have not been a Division I national champ like Koz but look at the guys he’s completely dominated in the wrestling department (hughes, Trigg, Sherk, now Koz) and you will see he is actually the most dominate wrestler not Koz and it doesn’t hurt that he has one of the best standups in the welterweight and a very solid jiu-jitsu game.

Didn’t GSP train with the Canadian National Wrestling Team? Wouldn’t that mean he was training with wrestlers of a higher caliber than a Div 1 champ? Olympic medalists or Div 1 champ, who’s the better class of wrestlers?

GSP is Awesome. I think that he’d planned to out wrestle the wrestler and make a point that everybody who doubted him was wrong. GSP is head and shoulders above Kos in the striking department. If round three was any indication, if GSP had kept the fight standing, which he could have b/c he STUFFED everything that Kos had from the outside (one take down after a scramble up from the mat) GSP would have broken Kos up like a twig.

Randy is plainly AMAZING. If you’re wondering how old he is, he’s 44. I know this because Goldberg and Rogan mentioned it a couple of times….ok, about 70 or 80 times….each.

Can anyone explain to me what kinda drugs the judge was on that scored Aurilia winning the fight with Guida? I watched that fight on UFC.com (don’t waste your money its not too exciting) but I don’t see how you could argue that Aurilia one any of the rounds yet someohow one judge had him winning 29-27 (which makes even less sense cause that means there’s a 10-8 round in there somewhere). Seems like the judges have it out for him after he got hosed in the Tyson Griffin fight and then in my opinion had a clear 30-27 win and wins by split decision.

[quote comment="117196"]Am I the only one who would MUCH rather see Guida/Aurelio or even Babalu/Heath than watch Huerta fight another UFC newbie??

I guess making the cover of SI will guarantee you a spot on the televised card, even if you’re fighting a ten-year-old kid with a broken arm.[/quote]

Huerta is one of the smarted fighters there. Just watching his fight, and Stevenson’s, showed me just how good they both are. Raw talent aside, they are thinking their way through their fights, and not really struggling.

I think GSP is probably the best wrestler in all of MMA.

[quote comment="135022"][quote comment="134836"]Now all the f*cks that posted and hated on GSP saying Kos was gonna knock GSP the f*ck out are gonna be nowehere to be found. GSP is just at a higher skill level in striking and wrestling. I thought Kos was supposed to be so strong in wrestling and GSP cant outwrestle him no way lol. Maybe we will get to see a healthy Diego vs a demoralized Kos now.[/quote]

I suspect same thing will happen to those who are pro-bisping once hamill wins the maincard bout in London. A friend of mine told me that he went to tour Matt Hamill’s Training Center in Utica, NY and saw him training there. He is totally impressed by what he has seen. He was anti-Hamill and now is singing a different tune. It appears that Hamill has added more skill sets to his fighting style and is also fully aware of Bisping’s infamous “flying knee.” His stand up is looking even better as he is training with 3x national champion boxing Kimdu Bethel. Also is training with Ray Newkirk for BJJ skills. This is going to be quite interesting to see how much Matt Hamill has improved this time around.[/quote]

I SOOOOOOOOO agree with that…All the smack they talked about GSP..name callin *typical canook* as they say..so babyish..I think whether your an American, Canadian, Brazilian, if your 23,38,44, what ever the case is, if you dedicate yourself to what you love and train for the fight you have a great chance to win,,All the smack and dishin never gets ya anywhere!!!! CONGRATS TO RANDY, GSP, COTE and the others who won..job WELL done!! =)

Saw Mir’s fight, looked pretty good.

[quote comment="135799"]I think GSP is probably the best wrestler in all of MMA.[/quote]
I agree with that, if kos was supposed to be the most talented wrestler, gsp schooled him, in a very humiliating fashion. I almost think gsp’s wrestling is better than his stand up, his hands are good but I’m more impressed with his leg kicks. I wonder what was going through kos mind as gsp was dominating him where ever they went, standing or on the ground. I have to give kos credit though for his submission defense and his excellent guard and lasting all 3 rounds.

[quote comment="135037"][quote comment="135022"][quote comment="134836"]Now all the f*cks that posted and hated on GSP saying Kos was gonna knock GSP the f*ck out are gonna be nowehere to be found. GSP is just at a higher skill level in striking and wrestling. I thought Kos was supposed to be so strong in wrestling and GSP cant outwrestle him no way lol. Maybe we will get to see a healthy Diego vs a demoralized Kos now.[/quote]

I suspect same thing will happen to those who are pro-bisping once hamill wins the maincard bout in London. A friend of mine told me that he went to tour Matt Hamill’s Training Center in Utica, NY and saw him training there. He is totally impressed by what he has seen. He was anti-Hamill and now is singing a different tune. It appears that Hamill has added more skill sets to his fighting style and is also fully aware of Bisping’s infamous “flying knee.” His stand up is looking even better as he is training with 3x national champion boxing Kimdu Bethel. Also is training with Ray Newkirk for BJJ skills. This is going to be quite interesting to see how much Matt Hamill has improved this time around.[/quote]

Your havin a laugh! Im not a big bisping fan, but have no doubt in my mind he will dominate hamill…. dominate.[/quote]

Yeah? we shall see then.

Finally, everybody who doubted GSP’s wrestling can shut the hell up. He did get taken down once by Kos, but overall he out-wrestled the wrestler. If Kos is the supposed to be the best wrestler in MMA, what does that make GSP? Very solid win by GSP. He fought a smart and cautious match. When GSP’s mind is right, there’s nobody that is better than him. His combination of stand-up, wrestling, and BJJ is amazing. There’s not a fighter in the division who is better than GSP in 2 out of those 3 things.

[quote comment="136226"]Finally, everybody who doubted GSP’s wrestling can shut the hell up. He did get taken down once by Kos, but overall he out-wrestled the wrestler. If Kos is the supposed to be the best wrestler in MMA, what does that make GSP? Very solid win by GSP. He fought a smart and cautious match. When GSP’s mind is right, there’s nobody that is better than him. His combination of stand-up, wrestling, and BJJ is amazing. There’s not a fighter in the division who is better than GSP in 2 out of those 3 things.[/quote]

GSP also out-wrestled and out-grappled Otto, the man who also beat Kos for NCAA Div. National championship, at ADCC tournament.

[quote comment="136226"]Finally, everybody who doubted GSP’s wrestling can shut the hell up. He did get taken down once by Kos, but overall he out-wrestled the wrestler. If Kos is the supposed to be the best wrestler in MMA, what does that make GSP? Very solid win by GSP. He fought a smart and cautious match. When GSP’s mind is right, there’s nobody that is better than him. His combination of stand-up, wrestling, and BJJ is amazing. There’s not a fighter in the division who is better than GSP in 2 out of those 3 things.[/quote]

Sure but when Arlovski fights a solid, smart and cautious fight to a unanimous decision, he is denied the title shot! Woe to the Arlovski fans…

[quote post="2904"]I’m by no means a koscheck fan but as far as gsp having better wrestling skills is a joke. No wrestler is comfortable on his back. I think that gsp looked scared too exchange on the feet the first two rounds then loosened up in the 3rd. Also which punch was lucky that knocked gsp out in the serra fight ? The first one or the ten other monster hooks that put him out. Serra is a top notch fighter and he’ll prove it in do time. gsp said it perfectly “tonight i got beat by a better fighter” nuff said [/quote]
You’re right , GSP didn’t strike much , he was too busy schooling Kos in wresting. GSP beat Kos in pretty much a wrestling match. Anyone who watched this fight and thinks Kos is the better wrestler, is living in denial.