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“I think he hasn’t seen my fight with B.J. Penn.”

– Former UFC welterweight champion Georges St. Pierre responds to comments from Josh Koscheck that questioned his chin and heart via an MMANews.com interview. “Rush” is alluding to a fight with BJ Penn in which he was beat up bad in the first round but rallied to pull out a split-decision win at UFC 58 in March 2006. St. Pierre and Koscheck will meet at UFC 74: “Respect” on August 25 at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas, Nevada, for the right to challenge for the 170-pound title next.

August 1st, 2007    

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Comment by Kevin
2007-08-01 22:20:14

I like the pic. It is gruesome and freakin hilarious at the same time. I seriously am having a hard time choosing the winner. Kosheck isnt as well rounded as GSP. But Kos is confident and GSP is mentally very weak at times. I do think if GSP comes to the fight mentally prepared he should win. But if he has any doubts and gets scared of getting hit with one of Kos’ looping rights then i think Kos could handle GSP like Randy handled Tim.

 
Comment by Likwid
2007-08-01 22:29:57

[quote comment=”116849″]GSP is mentally very weak at times.[/quote]

Please do elaborate… you did put Times with an S. So other than the Serra fight when was he mentally weak?

 
Comment by MasterMinD
2007-08-01 23:01:51

Admittedly, kos vs. gsp is a nice fight…however, i think that many ppl are severely underestimating gsp’s skill level and well rounded arsenal. I forsee gsp “reminding” the fans why he was the champ…whatever happens that night, a good fighter will walk away a loser that night…

 
Comment by grey
2007-08-01 23:04:56

Kos is awesome. He barely beat a sick Sanchez with aproximately 10 landing punches. He can pick up a person and drop them and lay on top of them for any amount of time. If the opponent doesn’t know deffense well Kos just might decide to choke their neck. Kos is what all Ultimate Fighters should be like.It is so exciting to see how versatile he is, how he tricks his opponent to thinking he might do some real fighting but instead he just lays on them. Wow!!! He’ll probably be champ soon.

 
Comment by Hardcase
2007-08-01 23:53:15

Good call GSP. Enough said.

 
Comment by Jo
2007-08-01 23:55:52

I guess we will have to wait until Aug 25! I know I will probably be standing in front of the TV twitching away with the heart beats up over a 100.

I will put my money on GSP with out hesitating. Can I loose the bet? Yes, Can I win? Yes.

We will have to wait and see, we can spend hours elaborating and still be wrong on who we think will win. It will definitely be an entertaining fight.

 
Comment by michael
2007-08-02 00:00:06

ther is no way kos is going to beat gsp the fight with sanchez was the worst fight next to silvia /pitbull 3 after those 2 fights i was very disappointed gsp 3:49 first round tko ref stoppage kos blonde to red head

 
Comment by Cory
2007-08-02 00:28:45

I’m picturing GSP fighting with a vengeance….and all I can picture is GSP vs Matt Hughes 2. Hmmmm……I love GSP’s chances.

 
Comment by Pat
2007-08-02 00:32:16

[quote comment=”116856″][quote comment=”116849″]GSP is mentally very weak at times.[/quote]

Please do elaborate… you did put Times with an S. So other than the Serra fight when was he mentally weak?[/quote]

GSP vs Hughes I

“Matt Ee-ughes was my idol” -GSP

 
Comment by brac
2007-08-02 00:34:12

I can’t stand KOS. I will give him this, he is a very good athlete. If they both fight their ability, I think GSP wins this fight 8 out of 10 times.

 
Comment by Americana
2007-08-02 00:35:32

This is going to be a war but at the end of the day I just thing that GSP is the more well rounded fighter and will show everyone that his little hick-up with Serra was nothing but that…I think everyone is greatly underestimating and over analyzing GSP. Watch for him to come out and put on a show! I’m predicting a GSP like the one from GSP vs Hughes 2.

 
Comment by Pat
2007-08-02 00:37:24

If you put Phil Baroni’s cockiness/attitude, with Couture’s work ethic, and add GSP’s skills, you’ll have an unbeatable fighter lol

 
Comment by dsichameleon
2007-08-02 01:12:18

[quote post=”2902″]If you put Phil Baroni’s cockiness/attitude, with Couture’s work ethic, and add GSP’s skills, you’ll have an unbeatable fighter lol [/quote]

dont forget the horse steroids

 
Comment by epps
2007-08-02 01:14:00

GSP did pulled out a win against NCAA Div. I National Champion Otto in ADCC tournament. And it was all grappling match.

 
Comment by just1fix
2007-08-02 01:22:26

[quote comment=”116948″]GSP did pulled out a win against NCAA Div. I National Champion Otto in ADCC tournament. And it was all grappling match.[/quote]

And Otto actually beat Koscheck for that Div1 championship.

 
Comment by epps
2007-08-02 01:26:09

I mean, GSP has pretty good grappling skills if Kos wants to go for it. Matt Hughes was an excellent wrestler in his own right. So, I’ll put my money on GSP.

 
Comment by Theman
2007-08-02 02:26:10

Very close fight, both exceptional athletes, but I’m going with Kos. I think people are underestimating him bigtime. That said, I think it’ll be a long night for both.

Analysis is simple for me. Submissions is a non-factor, think we can all agree, highly unlikely for either. With stand up gotta give GSP the slight edge. Not as lopsided to me as some would say, Kos is learning like a sponge, every single fight he improves. Wrestling goes to Kos. I forsee very entertaining scrambles but wrestling and take downs are going to make this fight. Kos by hard fought well deserved dec. My 2 cents.

 
Comment by dsichameleon
2007-08-02 03:06:40

oh man, i know the caption contest was a while ago but look at georges face, lol.
“Damn spinning armbar!”

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Comment by Cory
2007-08-02 03:08:49

[quote comment=”116990″]Very close fight, both exceptional athletes, but I’m going with Kos. I think people are underestimating him bigtime. That said, I think it’ll be a long night for both.

Analysis is simple for me. Submissions is a non-factor, think we can all agree, highly unlikely for either. With stand up gotta give GSP the slight edge. Not as lopsided to me as some would say, Kos is learning like a sponge, every single fight he improves. Wrestling goes to Kos. I forsee very entertaining scrambles but wrestling and take downs are going to make this fight. Kos by hard fought well deserved dec. My 2 cents.[/quote]

Stand up a slight edge to GSP??? I believe GSP’s stand up is what is being underestimated. He strikes from all angles, with knockout power…..while at the same time defending the takedown…..remind you of anyone?? (Chuck). Also, its worth mentioning that the fight starts on the feet, so unless Koscheck gets GSP down, wrestling is a non-factor. You just assume its going to the ground, which a lot of times doesn’t happen. Thats aside from the fact that I do not believe Koschecks wrestling is a clearcut advantage over GSP’s. This fight, in many ways, reminds me of Tito and Chuck….Tito being an extremely tough challenger, but not enough tools to get the job done. Thats my opinion.

 
Comment by darlyn
2007-08-02 05:52:03

This will not be even close to a war. Kos is going to find out what being overmatched is all about.

 
Comment by Mamas Boy
2007-08-02 07:00:53

GSP is favored however I would have given Serra even less of a chance than Kos of beating GSP and look what happened there. Kos’ antics are annoying at times but the guy has shown so much improvement since the TUF show how can you not cheer for him? (compared to say… Chris Leben- who hasn’t improved at all).

 
Comment by Kevin Kelly
2007-08-02 07:22:14

Likwid
“Aug 1st, 2007 at 10:29 pm Quote this comment
GSP is mentally very weak at times.

Please do elaborate… you did put Times with an S. So other than the Serra fight when was he mentally weak? ”

One thing does come to mind …. How about tapping with 1 second to go in the first round against Hughes. Hughes had the arm for like 1.8 seconds before GSP tapped like a queer bag. Like a point guard in the NBA, you always have to be aware of the clock in a fight. Tapping like that, although it was when GSP was still a lil wet behind the ears, was weak nonetheless.

Josh Koscheck is the best wrestler in the UFC. Who cares what wrestlers GSP has squared off against in the best. When your a NCAA Division 1 National Champion, it means no one is matter than you. This fight will be a scrap with the better scrapper if you will taking it.

 
Comment by Kev Gardiner
2007-08-02 08:05:12

[quote post=”2902″]t means no one is matter than you[/quote]

Yeah, whatever he said? Good argument. Concrete thinking.

 
Comment by Likwid
2007-08-02 08:16:00

Kevin.. When Matt Hughes has you in an arm bar it takes about 1 second for him to break your arm.

I will give the point that he did not feel 100% confidant vs matt hughes #1. But shit.. who would when your comming out of another country and fighting your idol in your 3rd UFC fight.

A lot of fighters get psyched out they just act tough and don’t talk about it.

I watched an interview with Couture yesterday talking about how psyched out he was the first time he fought liddell. That kinda shit keeps you on your tows… Not to mention GSP was looking really good until the end of the round in GSP vs Hughes #1.

 
Comment by ade
2007-08-02 08:34:06

Leban might not have improved, but the guy never has a boring fight, and he also doesn’t go round thinking the sun shines out of his backside. Seriously, if you went out and you bumped into either of thses two guys I’m sure Leban would have a lot more time for you than Koscheck would.

 
Comment by Jorgito
2007-08-02 08:38:12

I think to many people are giving KOS to much credit and hype, He beat diego, so what and he showedd nothing, what was he afraid of Diego’s below par standup. Now he gets GSP and many people think Kos can do it, which he could don’t get me wrong but GSP is alot better than KOS. Yes KOS is a division 1 wrestler but gsp has scene that level of wrestling before(canadian wrestling team) and his standup is above Kos. I really see it being a difficult night for KOS.

 
Comment by Likwid
2007-08-02 08:39:16

I also giggle every time i hear ppl talk about KOS’s striking.. He de almost no damage to Diego last fight and Diego’s striking was abismal at best.

 
Comment by Kevin Kelly
2007-08-02 08:40:29

UFC mania does not have a spell check which is why some words do not come out korrectly. Excuse me for not analyzing each word.

 
Comment by Kevin Kelly
2007-08-02 08:41:22

Chris Leben loses to Terry Martin then goes on to host a reality TV show with David Hasselhoff

 
Comment by ragnarr
2007-08-02 08:41:55

He was psyched out against Hughes the first time. One he couldn’t even look him in the eye during the staredown, two, GSP made a terrible mistake by going for the Kimura without having at least half guard.

I don’t question GSPs confidence or ability. I think he just has a fear of success. When everything is riding on him winning he doesn’t perform well.

In his defense though, I believe this will get better with time.

 
Comment by Poppy
2007-08-02 09:13:25

I also think GSP takes this fight at least 8 out of 10 times. GSP can be a bit inconsistent, but at least on paper he should win this fight. I don’t foresee KOS knocking him out, but if GSP performs poorly, KOS could easily control GSP with some good wrestling.

Standup:
I think GSP has a _huge_ standup advantage. What is with people saying KOS has underrated striking skills? NO! He has very mediocre standing skills. Look at the way he holds his head out like that. That is just asking to be knocked out. Against Diego (who, staph or not, has horrible striking), KOS’s standup was not that great. Combine this with the fact that GSP has outstanding striking, and I think this is a huge advantage for GSP.

Ground:
Obviously KOS is the better wrestler, but I think GSP’s wrestling will be good enough that he can stuff maybe half of KOS’s takedown attempts. Also, during the Diego fight, KOS had one takedown attempt, and while he got the takedown, Diego _immediately_ reversed KOS and put him in a bad situation. Taking into account that GSP has very good BJJ, I can see something similar happening in the fight. On the bottom, GSP has good tools, but I don’t think you can say the same about KOS.

 
Comment by Likwid
2007-08-02 09:20:20

I agree with most of what you say Poppy other than the fact that GSP is unconsistant. Does he has problems to work on? Hell yes. But it’s really hard to find consistantly good and entertaining to watch fighters like GSP.

 
Comment by Likwid
2007-08-02 09:30:43

*Does he have…

 
Comment by Mamas Boy
2007-08-02 09:33:33

[quote comment=”117169″]UFC mania does not have a spell check which is why some words do not come out korrectly. Excuse me for not analyzing each word.[/quote]
yur perfeKly artikculaat two meee!!

 
Comment by George R
2007-08-02 09:42:46

I don’t question GSPs confidence or ability. I think he just has a fear of success. When everything is riding on him winning he doesn’t perform well.

GSP has lost twice in the ufc. Both times to opponents he liked. I don’t think it’s anything to do with pressure, or nerves. When he fought hughes the second time theres was more pressure on him,and he came out focused, precise, and aggressive and he even kicked HUGHES in the groin just for good measure. The only man to beat hughes since i can remember. How can u say he has a fear of success. Like tyson in his prime you couldn’t find an opponent who felt confident fighting hughes. GSP was the only legit challenger for Hughes.
He didn’t just beat hughes, he beat him up.

 
Comment by PhilQNY
2007-08-02 09:44:44

[quote comment=”116947″][quote post=”2902″]If you put Phil Baroni’s cockiness/attitude, with Couture’s work ethic, and add GSP’s skills, you’ll have an unbeatable fighter lol [/quote]

dont forget the horse steroids[/quote]

..Holla @ The Muscle Shark for that.

 
Comment by creeks
2007-08-02 09:52:12

[quote comment=”117170″]Chris Leben loses to Terry Martin then goes on to host a reality TV show with David Hasselhoff[/quote]

thats just plain out not funny

 
Comment by Mahde
2007-08-02 09:57:23

Sorry “cuts”, but there is no way I am going to believe that GSP is a ‘queer bag”. He is the greatest all around fighter in the division. Mental toughness is shown through the rigorous training he goes through.

Wrestling alone will not win this for Kos. Even if he can take Pierre down, which is an “if”, he has shown in past fights that he can’t do much from someone’s guard. And now he is fighting the top contender.

Say what you want about his fight with Serra because I am pretty sure that wasnt Pierre’s only fight in his career. You have to look at them all and when you do, “queer bag” really shouldnt come to mind.

 
Comment by ViolentMike
2007-08-02 09:59:54

[quote post=”2902″]GSP did pulled out a win against NCAA Div. I National Champion Otto in ADCC tournament. And it was all grappling match.
And Otto actually beat Koscheck for that Div1 championship. [/quote]

Wow really? And did you happen to just find that out in the Josh Koscheck thread with the glames behind him? Mark Johanson posted all about the history of their wrestling and thier common oppopent, “NCAA Div. I National Champion Otto”, as you would say - seeing that you don’t know his first name and were too lazy to click the back button on your browser. And Mark had gotten the information a different website, and gave credit where credit was due.

As far as this fight goes, I’m am not a big fan of either fighter, but it is just plain and obvious that GSP is the heavy favorite going into the fight, and the only way I see KOS winning is if he happens to land a ‘Matt Serra’ and follow it up with a few “hamma fist elbow, hamma fist elbow” ’s.

 
Comment by john
2007-08-02 10:21:19

[quote comment=”116948″]GSP did pulled out a win against NCAA Div. I National Champion Otto in ADCC tournament. And it was all grappling match.[/quote]

yesterday i was watchin GSP vs Serk, serk had nothing for GSP.
GSP defended so many of his takedowns beautifully. Kos is basically a taller serk. Kos will be outclassed in this fight. If Kos comes to fight he will be TKO’d, if Kos comes out like he did against diego, then GSP will win by unanimous decision. Kos will be exposed for what u is..a wrestler! GSP is great against wrestlers(u mentioned how he beat the only man to ever out wrestle kos in a wrestling/grappling match, Matt hughes, serk…
He is great against pure wrestlers…

I dont c how kos can win except for if he closes his eyes, swings, and luckily connects!

GSP wins 9 out of 10 times!

 
Comment by michael
2007-08-02 10:26:46

how do you think kos would fend against hughes not well i would say gsp was very dominant against him in fight 2 serra fight fluke gsp will be the dominant striker both fists and feet

 
Comment by Mamas Boy
2007-08-02 11:32:05

I got my nose broken by a stray elbow in wrestling practice. Didn’t feel very good. I can’t imagine continuing to fight someone like GSP did after BJ broke his nose. That takes balls. How can anyone question GSP’s heart or say he is afraid to get hit?

 
Comment by wilson
2007-08-02 11:35:40

Everyone saw the Kos and jeff joslin fight…Plain and simple kos cant strike. joslin owned him on their feet, kos only won because he was able to take joslin down and lay on him. At the end of each round joslin was able to put him into a submission but couldnt tap him out as time wouldnt allow for it. You can’t call what did agaisnt Diego striking, that was a very sad display from both ends. Diego didnt do anything, he stood around and kos had to win, judge’s had no other choice. GSP is going to destroy Kos, he’ll prob. have him on his back long before Kos even have a chance to shoot in for a take down. GSP 1st round tko 2:21.

 
Comment by Matt Boone
2007-08-02 11:44:08

Thanks for the love

 
Comment by RobH86
2007-08-02 12:36:59

I’ve said this many times before but I’ll say it again. I don’t think Kos is at the same level as GSP, but hey maybe he’ll prove me wrong. I just get the feeling the UFC are hyping this match as a superfight which I don’t believe it is. Well we all know Rogan is hyping it up big style but don’t listen to him he gets paid well to say that bs in promos.

So GSP all the way. Of course if I’m wrong then no problem I underestimated Kos but that’s the way I see it based on all of their previous performances.

 
Comment by Thor1982
2007-08-02 13:13:47

[quote comment=”117216″][quote post=”2902″]GSP did pulled out a win against NCAA Div. I National Champion Otto in ADCC tournament. And it was all grappling match.
And Otto actually beat Koscheck for that Div1 championship. [/quote]

Wow really? And did you happen to just find that out in the Josh Koscheck thread with the glames behind him? Mark Johanson posted all about the history of their wrestling and thier common oppopent, “NCAA Div. I National Champion Otto”, as you would say - seeing that you don’t know his first name and were too lazy to click the back button on your browser. And Mark had gotten the information a different website, and gave credit where credit was due.

As far as this fight goes, I’m am not a big fan of either fighter, but it is just plain and obvious that GSP is the heavy favorite going into the fight, and the only way I see KOS winning is if he happens to land a ‘Matt Serra’ and follow it up with a few “hamma fist elbow, hamma fist elbow” ’s.[/quote]

I dont get the reason your attacking this post when you found the info from the same place. Just because you read something somewhere doesnt mean you have to advertise where you read it everytime you talk about it. you just jumped on it cuz it was a recent post in the Koscheck says GSP has a weak chin and no heart thread. I agree that Mark did post good info and background on the subject. But just because this person got the information from very likely the same place you did is no reason to be so vehement. I dont mean to sound like an a$$hole if i do. I just dont get it i guess. That said GSP is prob gonna take this fight.

 
Comment by JaCoB
2007-08-02 13:33:40

Did anyone watch the GSP Trigg fight? Is Frank Trigg not a recognized wrestler? GSP was amazing in that fight. I think GSP is going to take this one.

 
Comment by Kevin Kelly
2007-08-02 13:54:58

Mahde Ill take Koscheck and you obviously are taking GSP … Wanna put $50 on it ?

 
Comment by Holdin Ropes
2007-08-02 14:06:26

In every match you can have that punchers chance so there is no point in anyone pointing that out since that will make the prediction of any match almost impossible. Excluding punchers chance who can see Kos winning? Not me. GSP has better striking especially if we are talking about more than just hands. Kos has better wrestling but that is neutralised by GSP’s superior BJJ.

I can’t see Kos winning I dont think he is that great to tell you the honest truth, his biggest match-up to date was against Sanchez and altough he did win (which in the end is the ultimate goal) the way he did it doesn’t make me put him on the level of GSP.

If GSP went up against Sanchez I think GSP would of handled him much better than Kos.

GSP to win

 
Comment by ViolentMike
2007-08-02 14:16:37

[quote post=”2902″]I dont get the reason your attacking this post when you found the info from the same place. Just because you read something somewhere doesnt mean you have to advertise where you read it everytime you talk about it. you just jumped on it cuz it was a recent post in the Koscheck says GSP has a weak chin and no heart thread. I agree that Mark did post good info and background on the subject. But just because this person got the information from very likely the same place you did is no reason to be so vehement. I dont mean to sound like an a$$hole if i do. I just dont get it i guess. That said GSP is prob gonna take this fight. [/quote]

I didn’t even know there was a human being named Otto prior to the Koscheck says GSP has a weak chin and no heart thread, let alone a champion wrestler who is a common opponent to both of them.

I just thought it was funny that you bring it up as if you were the only person to know this, meanwhile it was discussed at length just yesterday.

Sorry for upsetting you Thor, and actually you didn’t come off as much of an a$$hole, no worries.

With that said, we agree that GSP will dominate DOS. You gotta be a curly-haired-queer or a straight up metrosexual wrestler to think that KOS is going to be able to stop GSP. When you compare the caliber of competition that these two have faced, it is literally laughable!

 
Comment by ViolentMike
2007-08-02 14:17:28

* dominate KOS not DOS. That got dominated by Windows many, many years ago…

 
Comment by Mahde
2007-08-02 14:23:23

[quote comment=”117378″]Mahde Ill take Koscheck and you obviously are taking GSP … Wanna put $50 on it ?[/quote]

No. I have learned that MMA is too unpredictable to bet money on….the hard way.

 
Comment by Mahde
2007-08-02 14:25:08

[quote comment=”117393″][quote comment=”117378″]Mahde Ill take Koscheck and you obviously are taking GSP … Wanna put $50 on it ?[/quote]

No. I have learned that MMA is too unpredictable to bet money on….the hard way.[/quote]

But I’m still gonna talk sh*t when GSP wins.

 
Comment by Likwid
2007-08-02 14:56:31

[quote comment=”117378″]Mahde Ill take Koscheck and you obviously are taking GSP … Wanna put $50 on it ?[/quote]

If your crazy enough to put 50$ on KOS il take you up on it.

 
Comment by Kevin Kelly
2007-08-02 15:24:58

We can all talk sh1t until the final outcome … then come the excuses for GSP following the fight. A couple I see could be dehydration, over training, groin, sore ankle, any others will come about after Koscheck wins a THREE ROUND TOUGH DECISION.

A WIN IS A WIN SO PLEASE NO GSP EXCUSES FROM ANYONE

 
Comment by Likwid
2007-08-02 15:39:11

50$ Kev come on ;)

 
Comment by ViolentMike
2007-08-02 15:50:00

Likwid, are you giving Kevin the correct odds on his $50 bet?

 
Comment by Likwid
2007-08-02 16:32:34

He is the one who proposed 50$ i aint no bookie. He can go put 50$ on a betting site if he wants to worry about odds.

 
Comment by Stafo
2007-08-02 16:53:59

I hope GSP crushes this dude. I can’t stand that clown Koscheck

 
Comment by Mahde
2007-08-02 17:12:49

[quote comment=”117431″]We can all talk sh1tuntil the final outcome … then come the excuses for GSP following the fight. A couple I see could be dehydration, over training, groin, sore ankle, any others will come about after Koscheck wins a THREE ROUND TOUGH DECISION.

A WIN IS A WIN SO PLEASE NO GSP EXCUSES FROM ANYONE[/quote]

Thats a two way street. A couple of excuses I see from Koscheck could be didnt see it coming, was that a kick or a punch?, I can’t stand up with this guy, I couldnt take him down and I broke my lucky pick before the fight.

 
Comment by dan
2007-08-02 17:32:21

I don’t really understand this “GSP was mentally weak” in regards to his loss to Serra. When I watched that fight, GSP got hit hard and then followed up on. He didn’t appear to be running away squealing like a girl from Serra to me in any part of that round, he just lost. Excuse it away all you want, but Serra took the fight fair and square that night. (and I love GSP)

 
Comment by dan
2007-08-02 17:33:36

And for the record, I think GSP is going to win over Kos.

 
Comment by Thor1982
2007-08-02 18:31:56

[quote comment=”117387″][quote post=”2902″]I dont get the reason your attacking this post when you found the info from the same place. Just because you read something somewhere doesnt mean you have to advertise where you read it everytime you talk about it. you just jumped on it cuz it was a recent post in the Koscheck says GSP has a weak chin and no heart thread. I agree that Mark did post good info and background on the subject. But just because this person got the information from very likely the same place you did is no reason to be so vehement. I dont mean to sound like an a$$hole if i do. I just dont get it i guess. That said GSP is prob gonna take this fight. [/quote]

I didn’t even know there was a human being named Otto prior to the Koscheck says GSP has a weak chin and no heart thread, let alone a champion wrestler who is a common opponent to both of them.

I just thought it was funny that you bring it up as if you were the only person to know this, meanwhile it was discussed at length just yesterday.

Sorry for upsetting you Thor, and actually you didn’t come off as much of an a$$hole, no worries.

With that said, we agree that GSP will dominate DOS. You gotta be a curly-haired-queer or a straight up metrosexual wrestler to think that KOS is going to be able to stop GSP. When you compare the caliber of competition that these two have faced, it is literally laughable![/quote]

By no means did i know about Otto and i was one of the ones that posted that Mark J posted some good info. I was just commenting on the fact that we all didnt know about it until yesterday so when epps and just1fix just reiterated the info i dont see how they were acting like know it alls or anything. We all get are info from somewhere and most of the time not surprisingly its from the same places or websites. And dont worry about upsetting me i just didnt understand. But yeah i think Kos’s attitude aside he’s a great athlete but GSP has all the skills that Kos is just now starting to hone. You deff cant compare their past competition. Kos has a chance but thats about it. Maybe he can sneak in a good punch or come out with the windmill and pray that he makes contact. If Kos didnt talk so much sh!t he might get more respect but no more than he’s due which at this point in his career shouldnt be a whole lot.

 
Comment by Dryhumor
2007-08-02 19:55:11

GSP has got Mad stand up skills! but i would’nt be suprised if he layed Koscheck down and beated him into oblivion! Look back at the Sherk fight….

GSP is gona run him over!

 
Comment by Theman
2007-08-02 20:48:24

[quote comment=”117011″][quote comment=”116990″]Very close fight, both exceptional athletes, but I’m going with Kos. I think people are underestimating him bigtime. That said, I think it’ll be a long night for both.

Analysis is simple for me. Submissions is a non-factor, think we can all agree, highly unlikely for either. With stand up gotta give GSP the slight edge. Not as lopsided to me as some would say, Kos is learning like a sponge, every single fight he improves. Wrestling goes to Kos. I forsee very entertaining scrambles but wrestling and take downs are going to make this fight. Kos by hard fought well deserved dec. My 2 cents.[/quote]

Stand up a slight edge to GSP??? I believe GSP’s stand up is what is being underestimated. He strikes from all angles, with knockout power…..while at the same time defending the takedown…..remind you of anyone?? (Chuck).

Also, its worth mentioning that the fight starts on the feet, so unless Koscheck gets GSP down, wrestling is a non-factor. You just assume its going to the ground, which a lot of times doesn’t happen. Thats aside from the fact that I do not believe Koschecks wrestling is a clearcut advantage over GSP’s. This fight, in many ways, reminds me of Tito and Chuck….Tito being an extremely tough challenger, but not enough tools to get the job done. Thats my opinion.[/quote]

That’s how I’d see it playing out, not necesarily going to go that way. Koscheck is every bit as athletic as Pierre, I don’t know why poeple don’t see that, he’s improving every fight in standup. He’s one of those wrestlers who transitions very well into MMA. Quick, explosive, athletic, and confident, I believe we’re going to see GSP look frusterated with Kos. Yes, I said slight advantage in stand up, haha, who knows though, maybe GSP will KO him but I doubt it.

 
Comment by The Anomaly
2007-08-02 21:25:10

Kos has no advantage anywhere, on the feet, ground, clinch, or anywhere inbetween. As somebody already alluded to GSP handled the div. 1 guy in an all grappling match, the man who beat Kos to win the div 1 match. Kos is DONE. If GSP loses it will be a crazy fluke.
GSP is NOT mentally weak. It’s already over. And KEVIN KELLY better not disappear when Kos gets crushed.

 
Comment by The Anomaly
2007-08-02 21:26:55

[quote comment=”117565″]GSP has got Mad stand up skills! but i would’nt be suprised if he layed Koscheck down and beated him into oblivion! Look back at the Sherk fight….

GSP is gona run him over![/quote]

Completely agree. He pounded SHerk, I think the this fight will be VERY similar to the GSP/Sherk fight.

 
Comment by DJ
2007-08-02 22:03:52

[quote comment=”116923″][quote comment=”116856″][quote comment=”116849″]GSP is mentally very weak at times.[/quote]

Please do elaborate… you did put Times with an S. So other than the Serra fight when was he mentally weak?[/quote]

GSP vs Hughes I

“Matt Ee-ughes was my idol” -GSP[/quote]

Man, you can’t forget.. GSP was all of 22 years old or something like that when he fought Hughes the first time. GSP spoke the truth like he always does - we are just getting sick of hearing him say the same thing. English is his second language so things can get lost in the translation.

All his talking will happen soon enough. It won’t be with his mouth. KOS is in for something special. Ask Trigg or Hughes.

 
Comment by J.Cameron
2007-08-03 02:26:18

Kos has no advantage anywhere, on the feet, ground, clinch, or anywhere inbetween. As somebody already alluded to GSP handled the div. 1 guy in an all grappling match, the man who beat Kos to win the div 1 match. Kos is DONE. If GSP loses it will be a crazy fluke.
GSP is NOT mentally weak. It’s already over. And KEVIN KELLY better not disappear when Kos gets crushed.

I agree with you Anomaly, dominates all areas, and yes, KEVIN KELLY better not dissapear after. He wouldn’t accept LIKWIDS offer

 
Comment by Kevin Kelly
2007-08-03 08:55:53

Found your follow up extremely hilarious Mahde, who has a lucky pick these days anyway haha. Koscheck via unanimous decision, no matter how close it actually is, he wins.

 
Comment by Kevin Kelly
2007-08-03 09:11:17

Matt Hughes versus Josh Koscheck will be a street fight that may be sloppy at times but boy is it going to be exciting. Can’t wait for it. Basicaaly means GSP will have a re match with Serra for possiblr # 1 contender rights.

Jon Fitch versus Diego Sanchez will detemine the # 2 contender

and Karo “crybaby/Do you know what I can do to these punks?” Parysian will be sucking his thumb wondering why he cant get a shot….. Comical

 
Comment by john
2007-08-03 09:50:02

Kos = (a taller) sherk
and we all know how serk did against GSP
I smell Trouble for Kos!

 
Comment by Dryhumor
2007-08-03 13:59:41

Kos can go for all the take downs he wants! Cuz he just might eat a knee in the forehead! or better his nose! Unlike Sherk eating it 3 times in the head, Crotcheck is going down!

Hes just talking shit to hype himself up! He knows he dose’nt have wat it takes to win!!

 
Comment by The Anomaly
2007-08-05 04:39:47

[quote comment=”118050″]Kos = (a taller) sherk
and we all know how serk did against GSP
I smell Trouble for Kos![/quote]
Exactly

 
Comment by The Anomaly
2007-08-05 04:40:14

[quote comment=”118014″]Matt Hughes versus Josh Koscheck will be a street fight that may be sloppy at times but boy is it going to be exciting. Can’t wait for it. Basicaaly means GSP will have a re match with Serra for possiblr # 1 contender rights.

Jon Fitch versus Diego Sanchez will detemine the # 2 contender

and Karo “crybaby/Do you know what I can do to these punks?” Parysian will be sucking his thumb wondering why he cant get a shot….. Comical[/quote]

haha way off

 
Comment by john doe
2007-08-10 18:00:17

koscheck is gonna whoop  gsp.  Precise punching, headkicks, and ground and pound.

 
Comment by Thor1982
2007-08-10 23:32:01

[quote comment=”123612″]koscheck is gonna whoop  gsp.  Precise punching, headkicks, and ground and pound.[/quote]

Kos’s striking isnt even close to GSP’s its been getting better but not better than GSP’s yet if ever.

 
Comment by john doe
2007-08-11 02:28:19

please…. GSP only fights well when an opponent won’t push the pace. The game plan that serra put forth and hughes also. St. Pierre will wilt under an onslaught of aggression. he wanted to quit after bj penn roughed him up in round one. Also he doesn’t even look the same as far as his build and strength/overall conditioning.

 
Comment by john doe
2007-08-11 02:30:37

Don’t even get started with sherk. Of course he couldn’t take down a true 170 pounder with those little alligator juice puppy arms. This will not be the case with Koscheck, elbows will be dropping and GSP will be on queer street.

 
Comment by Thor1982
2007-08-11 11:41:26

[quote comment=”123856″]please…. GSP only fights well when an opponent won’t push the pace. The game plan that serra put forth and hughes also. St. Pierre will wilt under an onslaught of aggression. he wanted to quit after bj penn roughed him up in round one. Also he doesn’t even look the same as far as his build and strength/overall conditioning.[/quote]

Kos and onslaught of aggression dont make me laugh. If Kos comes running in he’s gonna get put on his a$$ with either a punch or a knee. He hasnt faced a striker like GSP so we will see what happens after he eats a couple strikes and then is tentative and timid the rest of th