I like the pic. It is gruesome and freakin hilarious at the same time. I seriously am having a hard time choosing the winner. Kosheck isnt as well rounded as GSP. But Kos is confident and GSP is mentally very weak at times. I do think if GSP comes to the fight mentally prepared he should win. But if he has any doubts and gets scared of getting hit with one of Kos’ looping rights then i think Kos could handle GSP like Randy handled Tim.

[quote comment="116849"]GSP is mentally very weak at times.[/quote]

Please do elaborate… you did put Times with an S. So other than the Serra fight when was he mentally weak?

Admittedly, kos vs. gsp is a nice fight…however, i think that many ppl are severely underestimating gsp’s skill level and well rounded arsenal. I forsee gsp “reminding” the fans why he was the champ…whatever happens that night, a good fighter will walk away a loser that night…

Kos is awesome. He barely beat a sick Sanchez with aproximately 10 landing punches. He can pick up a person and drop them and lay on top of them for any amount of time. If the opponent doesn’t know deffense well Kos just might decide to choke their neck. Kos is what all Ultimate Fighters should be like.It is so exciting to see how versatile he is, how he tricks his opponent to thinking he might do some real fighting but instead he just lays on them. Wow!!! He’ll probably be champ soon.

Good call GSP. Enough said.

I guess we will have to wait until Aug 25! I know I will probably be standing in front of the TV twitching away with the heart beats up over a 100.

I will put my money on GSP with out hesitating. Can I loose the bet? Yes, Can I win? Yes.

We will have to wait and see, we can spend hours elaborating and still be wrong on who we think will win. It will definitely be an entertaining fight.

ther is no way kos is going to beat gsp the fight with sanchez was the worst fight next to silvia /pitbull 3 after those 2 fights i was very disappointed gsp 3:49 first round tko ref stoppage kos blonde to red head

I’m picturing GSP fighting with a vengeance….and all I can picture is GSP vs Matt Hughes 2. Hmmmm……I love GSP’s chances.

[quote comment="116856"][quote comment="116849"]GSP is mentally very weak at times.[/quote]

Please do elaborate… you did put Times with an S. So other than the Serra fight when was he mentally weak?[/quote]

GSP vs Hughes I

“Matt Ee-ughes was my idol” -GSP

I can’t stand KOS. I will give him this, he is a very good athlete. If they both fight their ability, I think GSP wins this fight 8 out of 10 times.

This is going to be a war but at the end of the day I just thing that GSP is the more well rounded fighter and will show everyone that his little hick-up with Serra was nothing but that…I think everyone is greatly underestimating and over analyzing GSP. Watch for him to come out and put on a show! I’m predicting a GSP like the one from GSP vs Hughes 2.

If you put Phil Baroni’s cockiness/attitude, with Couture’s work ethic, and add GSP’s skills, you’ll have an unbeatable fighter lol

[quote post="2902"]If you put Phil Baroni’s cockiness/attitude, with Couture’s work ethic, and add GSP’s skills, you’ll have an unbeatable fighter lol [/quote]

dont forget the horse steroids

GSP did pulled out a win against NCAA Div. I National Champion Otto in ADCC tournament. And it was all grappling match.

[quote comment="116948"]GSP did pulled out a win against NCAA Div. I National Champion Otto in ADCC tournament. And it was all grappling match.[/quote]

And Otto actually beat Koscheck for that Div1 championship.

I mean, GSP has pretty good grappling skills if Kos wants to go for it. Matt Hughes was an excellent wrestler in his own right. So, I’ll put my money on GSP.

Very close fight, both exceptional athletes, but I’m going with Kos. I think people are underestimating him bigtime. That said, I think it’ll be a long night for both.

Analysis is simple for me. Submissions is a non-factor, think we can all agree, highly unlikely for either. With stand up gotta give GSP the slight edge. Not as lopsided to me as some would say, Kos is learning like a sponge, every single fight he improves. Wrestling goes to Kos. I forsee very entertaining scrambles but wrestling and take downs are going to make this fight. Kos by hard fought well deserved dec. My 2 cents.

oh man, i know the caption contest was a while ago but look at georges face, lol.
“Damn spinning armbar!”

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[quote comment="116990"]Very close fight, both exceptional athletes, but I’m going with Kos. I think people are underestimating him bigtime. That said, I think it’ll be a long night for both.

Analysis is simple for me. Submissions is a non-factor, think we can all agree, highly unlikely for either. With stand up gotta give GSP the slight edge. Not as lopsided to me as some would say, Kos is learning like a sponge, every single fight he improves. Wrestling goes to Kos. I forsee very entertaining scrambles but wrestling and take downs are going to make this fight. Kos by hard fought well deserved dec. My 2 cents.[/quote]

Stand up a slight edge to GSP??? I believe GSP’s stand up is what is being underestimated. He strikes from all angles, with knockout power…..while at the same time defending the takedown…..remind you of anyone?? (Chuck). Also, its worth mentioning that the fight starts on the feet, so unless Koscheck gets GSP down, wrestling is a non-factor. You just assume its going to the ground, which a lot of times doesn’t happen. Thats aside from the fact that I do not believe Koschecks wrestling is a clearcut advantage over GSP’s. This fight, in many ways, reminds me of Tito and Chuck….Tito being an extremely tough challenger, but not enough tools to get the job done. Thats my opinion.

This will not be even close to a war. Kos is going to find out what being overmatched is all about.

GSP is favored however I would have given Serra even less of a chance than Kos of beating GSP and look what happened there. Kos’ antics are annoying at times but the guy has shown so much improvement since the TUF show how can you not cheer for him? (compared to say… Chris Leben- who hasn’t improved at all).

Likwid
“Aug 1st, 2007 at 10:29 pm Quote this comment
GSP is mentally very weak at times.

Please do elaborate… you did put Times with an S. So other than the Serra fight when was he mentally weak? ”

One thing does come to mind …. How about tapping with 1 second to go in the first round against Hughes. Hughes had the arm for like 1.8 seconds before GSP tapped like a queer bag. Like a point guard in the NBA, you always have to be aware of the clock in a fight. Tapping like that, although it was when GSP was still a lil wet behind the ears, was weak nonetheless.

Josh Koscheck is the best wrestler in the UFC. Who cares what wrestlers GSP has squared off against in the best. When your a NCAA Division 1 National Champion, it means no one is matter than you. This fight will be a scrap with the better scrapper if you will taking it.

[quote post="2902"]t means no one is matter than you[/quote]

Yeah, whatever he said? Good argument. Concrete thinking.

Kevin.. When Matt Hughes has you in an arm bar it takes about 1 second for him to break your arm.

I will give the point that he did not feel 100% confidant vs matt hughes #1. But shit.. who would when your comming out of another country and fighting your idol in your 3rd UFC fight.

A lot of fighters get psyched out they just act tough and don’t talk about it.

I watched an interview with Couture yesterday talking about how psyched out he was the first time he fought liddell. That kinda shit keeps you on your tows… Not to mention GSP was looking really good until the end of the round in GSP vs Hughes #1.

Leban might not have improved, but the guy never has a boring fight, and he also doesn’t go round thinking the sun shines out of his backside. Seriously, if you went out and you bumped into either of thses two guys I’m sure Leban would have a lot more time for you than Koscheck would.

I think to many people are giving KOS to much credit and hype, He beat diego, so what and he showedd nothing, what was he afraid of Diego’s below par standup. Now he gets GSP and many people think Kos can do it, which he could don’t get me wrong but GSP is alot better than KOS. Yes KOS is a division 1 wrestler but gsp has scene that level of wrestling before(canadian wrestling team) and his standup is above Kos. I really see it being a difficult night for KOS.

I also giggle every time i hear ppl talk about KOS’s striking.. He de almost no damage to Diego last fight and Diego’s striking was abismal at best.

UFC mania does not have a spell check which is why some words do not come out korrectly. Excuse me for not analyzing each word.

Chris Leben loses to Terry Martin then goes on to host a reality TV show with David Hasselhoff

He was psyched out against Hughes the first time. One he couldn’t even look him in the eye during the staredown, two, GSP made a terrible mistake by going for the Kimura without having at least half guard.

I don’t question GSPs confidence or ability. I think he just has a fear of success. When everything is riding on him winning he doesn’t perform well.

In his defense though, I believe this will get better with time.

I also think GSP takes this fight at least 8 out of 10 times. GSP can be a bit inconsistent, but at least on paper he should win this fight. I don’t foresee KOS knocking him out, but if GSP performs poorly, KOS could easily control GSP with some good wrestling.

Standup:
I think GSP has a _huge_ standup advantage. What is with people saying KOS has underrated striking skills? NO! He has very mediocre standing skills. Look at the way he holds his head out like that. That is just asking to be knocked out. Against Diego (who, staph or not, has horrible striking), KOS’s standup was not that great. Combine this with the fact that GSP has outstanding striking, and I think this is a huge advantage for GSP.

Ground:
Obviously KOS is the better wrestler, but I think GSP’s wrestling will be good enough that he can stuff maybe half of KOS’s takedown attempts. Also, during the Diego fight, KOS had one takedown attempt, and while he got the takedown, Diego _immediately_ reversed KOS and put him in a bad situation. Taking into account that GSP has very good BJJ, I can see something similar happening in the fight. On the bottom, GSP has good tools, but I don’t think you can say the same about KOS.

I agree with most of what you say Poppy other than the fact that GSP is unconsistant. Does he has problems to work on? Hell yes. But it’s really hard to find consistantly good and entertaining to watch fighters like GSP.

*Does he have…

[quote comment="117169"]UFC mania does not have a spell check which is why some words do not come out korrectly. Excuse me for not analyzing each word.[/quote]
yur perfeKly artikculaat two meee!!

I don’t question GSPs confidence or ability. I think he just has a fear of success. When everything is riding on him winning he doesn’t perform well.

GSP has lost twice in the ufc. Both times to opponents he liked. I don’t think it’s anything to do with pressure, or nerves. When he fought hughes the second time theres was more pressure on him,and he came out focused, precise, and aggressive and he even kicked HUGHES in the groin just for good measure. The only man to beat hughes since i can remember. How can u say he has a fear of success. Like tyson in his prime you couldn’t find an opponent who felt confident fighting hughes. GSP was the only legit challenger for Hughes.
He didn’t just beat hughes, he beat him up.

[quote comment="116947"][quote post="2902"]If you put Phil Baroni’s cockiness/attitude, with Couture’s work ethic, and add GSP’s skills, you’ll have an unbeatable fighter lol [/quote]

dont forget the horse steroids[/quote]

..Holla @ The Muscle Shark for that.

[quote comment="117170"]Chris Leben loses to Terry Martin then goes on to host a reality TV show with David Hasselhoff[/quote]

thats just plain out not funny

Sorry “cuts”, but there is no way I am going to believe that GSP is a ‘queer bag”. He is the greatest all around fighter in the division. Mental toughness is shown through the rigorous training he goes through.

Wrestling alone will not win this for Kos. Even if he can take Pierre down, which is an “if”, he has shown in past fights that he can’t do much from someone’s guard. And now he is fighting the top contender.

Say what you want about his fight with Serra because I am pretty sure that wasnt Pierre’s only fight in his career. You have to look at them all and when you do, “queer bag” really shouldnt come to mind.

[quote post="2902"]GSP did pulled out a win against NCAA Div. I National Champion Otto in ADCC tournament. And it was all grappling match.
And Otto actually beat Koscheck for that Div1 championship. [/quote]

Wow really? And did you happen to just find that out in the Josh Koscheck thread with the glames behind him? Mark Johanson posted all about the history of their wrestling and thier common oppopent, “NCAA Div. I National Champion Otto”, as you would say – seeing that you don’t know his first name and were too lazy to click the back button on your browser. And Mark had gotten the information a different website, and gave credit where credit was due.

As far as this fight goes, I’m am not a big fan of either fighter, but it is just plain and obvious that GSP is the heavy favorite going into the fight, and the only way I see KOS winning is if he happens to land a ‘Matt Serra’ and follow it up with a few “hamma fist elbow, hamma fist elbow” ’s.

[quote comment="116948"]GSP did pulled out a win against NCAA Div. I National Champion Otto in ADCC tournament. And it was all grappling match.[/quote]

yesterday i was watchin GSP vs Serk, serk had nothing for GSP.
GSP defended so many of his takedowns beautifully. Kos is basically a taller serk. Kos will be outclassed in this fight. If Kos comes to fight he will be TKO’d, if Kos comes out like he did against diego, then GSP will win by unanimous decision. Kos will be exposed for what u is..a wrestler! GSP is great against wrestlers(u mentioned how he beat the only man to ever out wrestle kos in a wrestling/grappling match, Matt hughes, serk…
He is great against pure wrestlers…

I dont c how kos can win except for if he closes his eyes, swings, and luckily connects!

GSP wins 9 out of 10 times!

how do you think kos would fend against hughes not well i would say gsp was very dominant against him in fight 2 serra fight fluke gsp will be the dominant striker both fists and feet

I got my nose broken by a stray elbow in wrestling practice. Didn’t feel very good. I can’t imagine continuing to fight someone like GSP did after BJ broke his nose. That takes balls. How can anyone question GSP’s heart or say he is afraid to get hit?

Everyone saw the Kos and jeff joslin fight…Plain and simple kos cant strike. joslin owned him on their feet, kos only won because he was able to take joslin down and lay on him. At the end of each round joslin was able to put him into a submission but couldnt tap him out as time wouldnt allow for it. You can’t call what did agaisnt Diego striking, that was a very sad display from both ends. Diego didnt do anything, he stood around and kos had to win, judge’s had no other choice. GSP is going to destroy Kos, he’ll prob. have him on his back long before Kos even have a chance to shoot in for a take down. GSP 1st round tko 2:21.

Thanks for the love

I’ve said this many times before but I’ll say it again. I don’t think Kos is at the same level as GSP, but hey maybe he’ll prove me wrong. I just get the feeling the UFC are hyping this match as a superfight which I don’t believe it is. Well we all know Rogan is hyping it up big style but don’t listen to him he gets paid well to say that bs in promos.

So GSP all the way. Of course if I’m wrong then no problem I underestimated Kos but that’s the way I see it based on all of their previous performances.

[quote comment="117216"][quote post="2902"]GSP did pulled out a win against NCAA Div. I National Champion Otto in ADCC tournament. And it was all grappling match.
And Otto actually beat Koscheck for that Div1 championship. [/quote]

Wow really? And did you happen to just find that out in the Josh Koscheck thread with the glames behind him? Mark Johanson posted all about the history of their wrestling and thier common oppopent, “NCAA Div. I National Champion Otto”, as you would say – seeing that you don’t know his first name and were too lazy to click the back button on your browser. And Mark had gotten the information a different website, and gave credit where credit was due.

As far as this fight goes, I’m am not a big fan of either fighter, but it is just plain and obvious that GSP is the heavy favorite going into the fight, and the only way I see KOS winning is if he happens to land a ‘Matt Serra’ and follow it up with a few “hamma fist elbow, hamma fist elbow” ’s.[/quote]

I dont get the reason your attacking this post when you found the info from the same place. Just because you read something somewhere doesnt mean you have to advertise where you read it everytime you talk about it. you just jumped on it cuz it was a recent post in the Koscheck says GSP has a weak chin and no heart thread. I agree that Mark did post good info and background on the subject. But just because this person got the information from very likely the same place you did is no reason to be so vehement. I dont mean to sound like an a$$hole if i do. I just dont get it i guess. That said GSP is prob gonna take this fight.

Did anyone watch the GSP Trigg fight? Is Frank Trigg not a recognized wrestler? GSP was amazing in that fight. I think GSP is going to take this one.

Mahde Ill take Koscheck and you obviously are taking GSP … Wanna put $50 on it ?

In every match you can have that punchers chance so there is no point in anyone pointing that out since that will make the prediction of any match almost impossible. Excluding punchers chance who can see Kos winning? Not me. GSP has better striking especially if we are talking about more than just hands. Kos has better wrestling but that is neutralised by GSP’s superior BJJ.

I can’t see Kos winning I dont think he is that great to tell you the honest truth, his biggest match-up to date was against Sanchez and altough he did win (which in the end is the ultimate goal) the way he did it doesn’t make me put him on the level of GSP.

If GSP went up against Sanchez I think GSP would of handled him much better than Kos.

GSP to win

[quote post="2902"]I dont get the reason your attacking this post when you found the info from the same place. Just because you read something somewhere doesnt mean you have to advertise where you read it everytime you talk about it. you just jumped on it cuz it was a recent post in the Koscheck says GSP has a weak chin and no heart thread. I agree that Mark did post good info and background on the subject. But just because this person got the information from very likely the same place you did is no reason to be so vehement. I dont mean to sound like an a$$hole if i do. I just dont get it i guess. That said GSP is prob gonna take this fight. [/quote]

I didn’t even know there was a human being named Otto prior to the Koscheck says GSP has a weak chin and no heart thread, let alone a champion wrestler who is a common opponent to both of them.

I just thought it was funny that you bring it up as if you were the only person to know this, meanwhile it was discussed at length just yesterday.

Sorry for upsetting you Thor, and actually you didn’t come off as much of an a$$hole, no worries.

With that said, we agree that GSP will dominate DOS. You gotta be a curly-haired-queer or a straight up metrosexual wrestler to think that KOS is going to be able to stop GSP. When you compare the caliber of competition that these two have faced, it is literally laughable!

* dominate KOS not DOS. That got dominated by Windows many, many years ago…

[quote comment="117378"]Mahde Ill take Koscheck and you obviously are taking GSP … Wanna put $50 on it ?[/quote]

No. I have learned that MMA is too unpredictable to bet money on….the hard way.

[quote comment="117393"][quote comment="117378"]Mahde Ill take Koscheck and you obviously are taking GSP … Wanna put $50 on it ?[/quote]

No. I have learned that MMA is too unpredictable to bet money on….the hard way.[/quote]

But I’m still gonna talk sh*t when GSP wins.

[quote comment="117378"]Mahde Ill take Koscheck and you obviously are taking GSP … Wanna put $50 on it ?[/quote]

If your crazy enough to put 50$ on KOS il take you up on it.

We can all talk sh1t until the final outcome … then come the excuses for GSP following the fight. A couple I see could be dehydration, over training, groin, sore ankle, any others will come about after Koscheck wins a THREE ROUND TOUGH DECISION.

A WIN IS A WIN SO PLEASE NO GSP EXCUSES FROM ANYONE

50$ Kev come on

Likwid, are you giving Kevin the correct odds on his $50 bet?

He is the one who proposed 50$ i aint no bookie. He can go put 50$ on a betting site if he wants to worry about odds.

I hope GSP crushes this dude. I can’t stand that clown Koscheck

[quote comment="117431"]We can all talk sh1tuntil the final outcome … then come the excuses for GSP following the fight. A couple I see could be dehydration, over training, groin, sore ankle, any others will come about after Koscheck wins a THREE ROUND TOUGH DECISION.

A WIN IS A WIN SO PLEASE NO GSP EXCUSES FROM ANYONE[/quote]

Thats a two way street. A couple of excuses I see from Koscheck could be didnt see it coming, was that a kick or a punch?, I can’t stand up with this guy, I couldnt take him down and I broke my lucky pick before the fight.

I don’t really understand this “GSP was mentally weak” in regards to his loss to Serra. When I watched that fight, GSP got hit hard and then followed up on. He didn’t appear to be running away squealing like a girl from Serra to me in any part of that round, he just lost. Excuse it away all you want, but Serra took the fight fair and square that night. (and I love GSP)

And for the record, I think GSP is going to win over Kos.

[quote comment="117387"][quote post="2902"]I dont get the reason your attacking this post when you found the info from the same place. Just because you read something somewhere doesnt mean you have to advertise where you read it everytime you talk about it. you just jumped on it cuz it was a recent post in the Koscheck says GSP has a weak chin and no heart thread. I agree that Mark did post good info and background on the subject. But just because this person got the information from very likely the same place you did is no reason to be so vehement. I dont mean to sound like an a$$hole if i do. I just dont get it i guess. That said GSP is prob gonna take this fight. [/quote]

I didn’t even know there was a human being named Otto prior to the Koscheck says GSP has a weak chin and no heart thread, let alone a champion wrestler who is a common opponent to both of them.

I just thought it was funny that you bring it up as if you were the only person to know this, meanwhile it was discussed at length just yesterday.

Sorry for upsetting you Thor, and actually you didn’t come off as much of an a$$hole, no worries.

With that said, we agree that GSP will dominate DOS. You gotta be a curly-haired-queer or a straight up metrosexual wrestler to think that KOS is going to be able to stop GSP. When you compare the caliber of competition that these two have faced, it is literally laughable![/quote]

By no means did i know about Otto and i was one of the ones that posted that Mark J posted some good info. I was just commenting on the fact that we all didnt know about it until yesterday so when epps and just1fix just reiterated the info i dont see how they were acting like know it alls or anything. We all get are info from somewhere and most of the time not surprisingly its from the same places or websites. And dont worry about upsetting me i just didnt understand. But yeah i think Kos’s attitude aside he’s a great athlete but GSP has all the skills that Kos is just now starting to hone. You deff cant compare their past competition. Kos has a chance but thats about it. Maybe he can sneak in a good punch or come out with the windmill and pray that he makes contact. If Kos didnt talk so much sh!t he might get more respect but no more than he’s due which at this point in his career shouldnt be a whole lot.

GSP has got Mad stand up skills! but i would’nt be suprised if he layed Koscheck down and beated him into oblivion! Look back at the Sherk fight….

GSP is gona run him over!

[quote comment="117011"][quote comment="116990"]Very close fight, both exceptional athletes, but I’m going with Kos. I think people are underestimating him bigtime. That said, I think it’ll be a long night for both.

Analysis is simple for me. Submissions is a non-factor, think we can all agree, highly unlikely for either. With stand up gotta give GSP the slight edge. Not as lopsided to me as some would say, Kos is learning like a sponge, every single fight he improves. Wrestling goes to Kos. I forsee very entertaining scrambles but wrestling and take downs are going to make this fight. Kos by hard fought well deserved dec. My 2 cents.[/quote]

Stand up a slight edge to GSP??? I believe GSP’s stand up is what is being underestimated. He strikes from all angles, with knockout power…..while at the same time defending the takedown…..remind you of anyone?? (Chuck).

Also, its worth mentioning that the fight starts on the feet, so unless Koscheck gets GSP down, wrestling is a non-factor. You just assume its going to the ground, which a lot of times doesn’t happen. Thats aside from the fact that I do not believe Koschecks wrestling is a clearcut advantage over GSP’s. This fight, in many ways, reminds me of Tito and Chuck….Tito being an extremely tough challenger, but not enough tools to get the job done. Thats my opinion.[/quote]

That’s how I’d see it playing out, not necesarily going to go that way. Koscheck is every bit as athletic as Pierre, I don’t know why poeple don’t see that, he’s improving every fight in standup. He’s one of those wrestlers who transitions very well into MMA. Quick, explosive, athletic, and confident, I believe we’re going to see GSP look frusterated with Kos. Yes, I said slight advantage in stand up, haha, who knows though, maybe GSP will KO him but I doubt it.

Kos has no advantage anywhere, on the feet, ground, clinch, or anywhere inbetween. As somebody already alluded to GSP handled the div. 1 guy in an all grappling match, the man who beat Kos to win the div 1 match. Kos is DONE. If GSP loses it will be a crazy fluke.
GSP is NOT mentally weak. It’s already over. And KEVIN KELLY better not disappear when Kos gets crushed.

[quote comment="117565"]GSP has got Mad stand up skills! but i would’nt be suprised if he layed Koscheck down and beated him into oblivion! Look back at the Sherk fight….

GSP is gona run him over![/quote]

Completely agree. He pounded SHerk, I think the this fight will be VERY similar to the GSP/Sherk fight.

[quote comment="116923"][quote comment="116856"][quote comment="116849"]GSP is mentally very weak at times.[/quote]

Please do elaborate… you did put Times with an S. So other than the Serra fight when was he mentally weak?[/quote]

GSP vs Hughes I

“Matt Ee-ughes was my idol” -GSP[/quote]

Man, you can’t forget.. GSP was all of 22 years old or something like that when he fought Hughes the first time. GSP spoke the truth like he always does – we are just getting sick of hearing him say the same thing. English is his second language so things can get lost in the translation.

All his talking will happen soon enough. It won’t be with his mouth. KOS is in for something special. Ask Trigg or Hughes.

Kos has no advantage anywhere, on the feet, ground, clinch, or anywhere inbetween. As somebody already alluded to GSP handled the div. 1 guy in an all grappling match, the man who beat Kos to win the div 1 match. Kos is DONE. If GSP loses it will be a crazy fluke.
GSP is NOT mentally weak. It’s already over. And KEVIN KELLY better not disappear when Kos gets crushed.

I agree with you Anomaly, dominates all areas, and yes, KEVIN KELLY better not dissapear after. He wouldn’t accept LIKWIDS offer

Found your follow up extremely hilarious Mahde, who has a lucky pick these days anyway haha. Koscheck via unanimous decision, no matter how close it actually is, he wins.

Matt Hughes versus Josh Koscheck will be a street fight that may be sloppy at times but boy is it going to be exciting. Can’t wait for it. Basicaaly means GSP will have a re match with Serra for possiblr # 1 contender rights.

Jon Fitch versus Diego Sanchez will detemine the # 2 contender

and Karo “crybaby/Do you know what I can do to these punks?” Parysian will be sucking his thumb wondering why he cant get a shot….. Comical

Kos = (a taller) sherk
and we all know how serk did against GSP
I smell Trouble for Kos!

Kos can go for all the take downs he wants! Cuz he just might eat a knee in the forehead! or better his nose! Unlike Sherk eating it 3 times in the head, Crotcheck is going down!

Hes just talking shit to hype himself up! He knows he dose’nt have wat it takes to win!!

[quote comment="118050"]Kos = (a taller) sherk
and we all know how serk did against GSP
I smell Trouble for Kos![/quote]
Exactly

[quote comment="118014"]Matt Hughes versus Josh Koscheck will be a street fight that may be sloppy at times but boy is it going to be exciting. Can’t wait for it. Basicaaly means GSP will have a re match with Serra for possiblr # 1 contender rights.

Jon Fitch versus Diego Sanchez will detemine the # 2 contender

and Karo “crybaby/Do you know what I can do to these punks?” Parysian will be sucking his thumb wondering why he cant get a shot….. Comical[/quote]

haha way off

koscheck is gonna whoop  gsp.  Precise punching, headkicks, and ground and pound.

[quote comment="123612"]koscheck is gonna whoop  gsp.  Precise punching, headkicks, and ground and pound.[/quote]

Kos’s striking isnt even close to GSP’s its been getting better but not better than GSP’s yet if ever.

please…. GSP only fights well when an opponent won’t push the pace. The game plan that serra put forth and hughes also. St. Pierre will wilt under an onslaught of aggression. he wanted to quit after bj penn roughed him up in round one. Also he doesn’t even look the same as far as his build and strength/overall conditioning.

Don’t even get started with sherk. Of course he couldn’t take down a true 170 pounder with those little alligator juice puppy arms. This will not be the case with Koscheck, elbows will be dropping and GSP will be on queer street.

[quote comment="123856"]please…. GSP only fights well when an opponent won’t push the pace. The game plan that serra put forth and hughes also. St. Pierre will wilt under an onslaught of aggression. he wanted to quit after bj penn roughed him up in round one. Also he doesn’t even look the same as far as his build and strength/overall conditioning.[/quote]

Kos and onslaught of aggression dont make me laugh. If Kos comes running in he’s gonna get put on his a$$ with either a punch or a knee. He hasnt faced a striker like GSP so we will see what happens after he eats a couple strikes and then is tentative and timid the rest of the fight. Kos might be able to get GSP down but he’s gonna have to work at it. Let alone be able to do any damage from GSP’s guard cuz he sure in the hell aint gonna be able to pass it. Kos has skills like Hughes and hell i like Hughes he’s one of my fav fighters. But Kos isnt up there with Hughes yet he’s still got some time to go before he moves up to that skill level. And i dont care what anyone says there all great wrestlers. But your boy aint gonna be able to blanket GSP. And where was this onslaught of aggression when Kos fought Diego? Kos is good but not great yet. I think Kos has the ability to win this fight but all in all i think GSP is the more skilled fighter. So i gotta go with GSP he just has alot more ways to win. Cuz ya see GSP does everything Kos does but the thing is he just does it better.

[quote post="2902"]please…. GSP only fights well when an opponent won’t push the pace. The game plan that serra put forth and hughes also. St. Pierre will wilt under an onslaught of aggression. he wanted to quit after bj penn roughed him up in round one. Also he doesn’t even look the same as far as his build and strength/overall conditioning. [/quote]
WHAT? Most of GSP opponents don’t push the pace because they are to busy getting the beatdown of their lives. You mean Kos’s onslaught of aggression ,like against Diego, what a joke! You must think Kos is leaps and bounds ahead of Hughes,BJ,Sherk,Trigg and Karo if you think he will crush Georges, because they were all a long way from crushing him.

Be surprised on Aug. 25th , I expect Crane to submit Huerta as well as Koscheck pulling it out against GSP. Unpopular predictions but, I got to go with the way i’ve seen each guy move in the cage, or octagon. UFC 74 will be one of upsets. As far as onslaught of aggression Koscheck completely neutralized dirty sanchez and made him look like a bitch. IDK maybe some of those punches were to fast for you to see, better get a TIVO or a DVD before you lose you money betting on either of these two fights. If you remember sanchez looked pretty notted up after the fight and got frustrated when he realized Koscheck wasn’t going to fight the way he wanted him to. Koscheck will have a gameplan for GSP just like he had for sanchez. Get ready for GSP to look bad in the octagon. GSP can grab his bally a run back to canada, maybe he can make some excuses on the way like dirty sanchez.

[quote post="2902"]When your a NCAA Division 1 National Champion, it means no one is matter than you.[/quote]
Otto beat Kos ,GSP beat Otto, do you want to rethink that statment?

fight fans need to get off these guys johnson’s (I.E> hughes St.pierre,Franklin,sylvia )where did hughes even get his belt to lose to GSP. You can toss out former welterwieght champ all you want, true fans know they equal paperbelt champions. Besides if you think hughes would want to fight koscheck your probably high. It would be scrappy but, as you will see with this next fight koscheck’s standup would control the fght until it hits the ground then its time to bring the pain. St.Pierre doesn’t even have that strong of punches, he bases his stand-up on a compilation of annoying legkicks and some sharp punching. But, as you saw in the Penn fight, if he couldn’t have gottten the take downs he would have been hurt more on his feet. So sit back relax and Thor you will definitely see standup like in the sanchez fight , only more improved and more furious.

Sorry but I have to comment here…You question GSP’s ground game..Lets go back in time here..He beat:

Trigg – a wrestler, man handled his ass
Penn – One on the best Ju Jitsu guys out there. That fight was all heart.
Hughes – First off in GSP vs hughes I, he was actuall beating Hughes and winning the round before the arm bar. In the rematch hughes couldn’t even get GSP off his feet or do any damage.
Sherk – Beat him at his own game and pounded in through the Mat.
Parisian – Beat him and Karo aint no joke.

Also if you look at GSP record he fought top talent and has won via submission,TKO or Unamimous decision. How can anyone say this guy is soft? Are you kidding me? This Guy man handled Hughes. GSP cant win with a wrestler?..are we forgetting that GSP trains BJJ and is freakishly strong for 170lbs. Did Trigg, Hughes or Sherk or anything defining to him? No! And these are pure wrestling guys? Yes COme on now!

WHO the hell has KOS beat??? Ansar Chalangov…gee there’s a tough opponent. Wait lets not forget a sweaked out win over a sick/injured (Staff Infection) Diego Sanchez. I am not saying KOS is a joke..no he is good and has a tone of potential to be a top contender but to think that GSP has no chance against this guy really puzzles me. KOS is getting better but he is a blanket. He just smothers his opponent. GSP will pick this guy apart. I am not ecpecting a 30 sec knockout or anything but GSP will win. KOS will put up a fight.

GSP will win and it will be a good fight..and I hope Serra kicks the snot out of Hughes..maybe not likely but I hope so…that way GSP can revenge that loss.

[quote comment="124242"]fight fans need to get off these guys johnson’s (I.E> hughes St.pierre,Franklin,sylvia )where did hughes even get his belt to lose to GSP. You can toss out former welterwieght champ all you want, true fans know they equal paperbelt champions. Besides if you think hughes would want to fight koscheck your probably high. It would be scrappy but, as you will see with this next fight koscheck’s standup would control the fght until it hits the ground then its time to bring the pain. St.Pierre doesn’t even have that strong of punches, he bases his stand-up on a compilation of annoying legkicks and some sharp punching. But, as you saw in the Penn fight, if he couldn’t have gottten the take downs he would have been hurt more on his feet. So sit back relax and Thor you will definitely see standup like in the sanchez fight , only more improved and more furious.[/quote]

Hughes beat Newton to get the UFC belt the first time and GSP the second. Paper belt champions thats a pretty ignorant statement. Their records speak for themselves so dont give me that BS. Face it John GSP is better at everything Kos does. Even if Koschecks Stand-up improved 50% from his fight with Diego it wouldnt be enough to win this fight because it would still be dismal. I dont know where your getting this idea that Kos is aggressive and furious like its unseen and really he’s not that aggressive or furious. And you cant even compare BJ penn with Kos in striking not even close. So i’ll sit back and relax alright and watch Kos through 2 to 3 rounds get slowly and proficiently get ripped apart. Thats just how i forsee it going. Maybe Kos can wing a punch and get the KO he better hope he can cuz his bread and butter aint gonna work.

[quote comment="124242"]fight fans need to get off these guys johnson’s (I.E> hughes St.pierre,Franklin,sylvia )where did hughes even get his belt to lose to GSP. You can toss out former welterwieght champ all you want, true fans know they equal paperbelt champions. Besides if you think hughes would want to fight koscheck your probably high. It would be scrappy but, as you will see with this next fight koscheck’s standup would control the fght until it hits the ground then its time to bring the pain. St.Pierre doesn’t even have that strong of punches, he bases his stand-up on a compilation of annoying legkicks and some sharp punching. But, as you saw in the Penn fight, if he couldn’t have gottten the take downs he would have been hurt more on his feet. So sit back relax and Thor you will definitely see standup like in the sanchez fight , only more improved and more furious.[/quote]

Hughes would dominate Kos. Out of like 46 fights he’s lost only 5 times only 2 were by KO from strikes of any kind. So if he handled himself all that time without getting Ko’ed more than twice. I dont think Kos’s less than average striking would be a problem. and on the ground lol gimmie a break Kos would get choked out or submitted or better yet pounded out within the round.

[quote comment="124232"]Be surprised on Aug. 25th , I expect Crane to submit Huerta as well as Koscheck pulling it out against GSP. Unpopular predictions but, I got to go with the way i’ve seen each guy move in the cage, or octagon. UFC 74 will be one of upsets. As far as onslaught of aggression Koscheck completely neutralized dirty sanchez and made him look like a bitch. IDK maybe some of those punches were to fast for you to see, better get a TIVO or a DVD before you lose you money betting on either of these two fights. If you remember sanchez looked pretty notted up after the fight and got frustrated when he realized Koscheck wasn’t going to fight the way he wanted him to. Koscheck will have a gameplan for GSP just like he had for sanchez. Get ready for GSP to look bad in the octagon. GSP can grab his bally a run back to canada, maybe he can make some excuses on the way like dirty sanchez.[/quote]

Kos had a piss poor showing against a sick Sanchez. I wouldnt be using that specific fight to try and make any points. If Kos was so great he should have destroyed Diego or at least finsihed it as bad as Diego was fighting.. I dont bet on MMA so win lose or draw im not really losing anything.Im not saying Kos has no chance to beat GSP but if you think Kos is gonna totally beat GSP into oblivion your MMA Handicapped. Whats Kos’s gameplan consist of not getting massacred and try to find someway anyway to eek out a decision?

yeah hughes got punked by hallman twice in under 20 seconds combined so, I’ll rest assure that by your analogy that since trigg beat hallman that now trigg is better than hughes. Sorry that isn’t quite true and otto whoever ,is not the caliber fighter as Koscheck he just won a wrestling match.

eek nothing diego kept backing up, and st. pierre will also

punk

study your tapes a little thor, you are clearly an inexperienced fan. St. pierre is the one who has the punchers chance. Otherwise its snap, tap or sweet dreams.

[quote comment="124733"]yeah hughes got punked by hallman twice in under 20 seconds combined so, I’ll rest assure that by your analogy that since trigg beat hallman that now trigg is better than hughes. Sorry that isn’t quite true and otto whoever ,is not the caliber fighter as Koscheck he just won a wrestling match.[/quote]

Why did Kos beat Hallman? nope. And what was that like 7-8 years ago. While Hallman faded into the IFL. hughes went on to become champion. And im not using MMAth analogies. Im well aware of Hughes Record. Im just saying with Kos’s striking being at the skill level its at Hughes wouldnt have to much trouble since he has faced more experienced strikers. Its more of an experience thing than well this guy beat that guy thing.

[quote comment="125260"]study your tapes a little thor, you are clearly an inexperienced fan. St. pierre is the one who has the punchers chance. Otherwise its snap, tap or sweet dreams.[/quote]

Not quite. John im not the only one who happens to think GSP is a better technical striker. Majority vote says GSP will win by early stoppage what is at now 65%. I get it you like Kos you think Kos will win thats cool. I think GSP will win we will see soon enough.

good deal

[quote comment="125260"]study your tapes a little thor, you are clearly an inexperienced fan. St. pierre is the one who has the punchers chance. Otherwise its snap, tap or sweet dreams.[/quote]

Kos got manhandled there John Doe im sure ya saw it so i guess we wont be seeing you around talkin your trash anymore.