Comments on: Video: Griffin next mission for Shogun at UFC 76 http://mmamania.com/2007/07/28/video-griffin-next-mission-for-shogun-at-ufc-76/ UFC news, event schedules, fight analysis, Octagon predictions, UFC fighters and MMA thoughts Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:29:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Kid Dynamite http://mmamania.com/2007/07/28/video-griffin-next-mission-for-shogun-at-ufc-76/#comment-146323 Kid Dynamite Mon, 10 Sep 2007 07:06:20 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/07/28/video-griffin-next-mission-for-shogun-at-ufc-76/#comment-146323 it is LUDACRIS that this mortal (forrest) even attempt to enter the REALM of MAURICIO "SHOGUN" RUA. this will be the first FATALITY in the history of MMA my prayers are with the family of forrest griffin. hahaha! it is LUDACRIS that this mortal (forrest) even attempt to enter the REALM of MAURICIO “SHOGUN” RUA. this will be the first FATALITY in the history of MMA my prayers are with the family of forrest griffin. hahaha!

]]> By: erik http://mmamania.com/2007/07/28/video-griffin-next-mission-for-shogun-at-ufc-76/#comment-121366 erik Tue, 07 Aug 2007 23:12:11 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/07/28/video-griffin-next-mission-for-shogun-at-ufc-76/#comment-121366 forest griffin will win in the 3rd round by TKO..hes gonna shock the world forest griffin will win in the 3rd round by TKO..hes gonna shock the world

]]> By: RobH86 http://mmamania.com/2007/07/28/video-griffin-next-mission-for-shogun-at-ufc-76/#comment-115617 RobH86 Tue, 31 Jul 2007 17:32:10 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/07/28/video-griffin-next-mission-for-shogun-at-ufc-76/#comment-115617 Great video. Overeem is a monster. Great video. Overeem is a monster.

]]> By: PhilQNY http://mmamania.com/2007/07/28/video-griffin-next-mission-for-shogun-at-ufc-76/#comment-115503 PhilQNY Tue, 31 Jul 2007 14:56:23 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/07/28/video-griffin-next-mission-for-shogun-at-ufc-76/#comment-115503 I see this fight unfolding like the Anderson Silva vs Chris Leben fight..SHOGUN will drop Forrest in the 1st round. I see this fight unfolding like the Anderson Silva vs Chris Leben fight..SHOGUN will drop Forrest in the 1st round.

]]> By: ViolentMike http://mmamania.com/2007/07/28/video-griffin-next-mission-for-shogun-at-ufc-76/#comment-115485 ViolentMike Tue, 31 Jul 2007 14:30:35 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/07/28/video-griffin-next-mission-for-shogun-at-ufc-76/#comment-115485 [quote post="2854"]I have just never seen Forrest with Knock out power. But I can see him frusterating Rua. [/quote] That's right! His only (T)KO in the UFC is against none other than Elvis Sinosic. Forrest is not a knock out puncher. Unless Forrest can pull off a 'Matt Serra' and shock the world, he will find himself wounded very badly, and spending a long time on the sidelines healing before the athtletic commission allows him back into the octagon. [quote post=”2854″]I have just never seen Forrest with Knock out power. But I can see him frusterating Rua. [/quote]

That’s right! His only (T)KO in the UFC is against none other than Elvis Sinosic. Forrest is not a knock out puncher.

Unless Forrest can pull off a ‘Matt Serra’ and shock the world, he will find himself wounded very badly, and spending a long time on the sidelines healing before the athtletic commission allows him back into the octagon.

]]> By: RobH86 http://mmamania.com/2007/07/28/video-griffin-next-mission-for-shogun-at-ufc-76/#comment-115436 RobH86 Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:00:22 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/07/28/video-griffin-next-mission-for-shogun-at-ufc-76/#comment-115436 The thing is the Pride rules favoured fighters with that real animal killer instinct and good standup. The octagon is huge whereas you can cut the corner and pin in your opponent in the ring. Kicks to grounded opponents allowed the standup fighter to finish 'em quickly. I mean if stomps and headkicks were allowed then AA would have mangled Werdum in the first round. The UFC rules favour all these american fighters are wrestlers l'n'p artists. The rules favour wrestlers to heavily and it makes for boring fights. If the Sherk Franca fight was pride rules Franca may well have finished him with head kicks and stomps. R.I.P. Pride. The thing is the Pride rules favoured fighters with that real animal killer instinct and good standup. The octagon is huge whereas you can cut the corner and pin in your opponent in the ring. Kicks to grounded opponents allowed the standup fighter to finish ‘em quickly.

I mean if stomps and headkicks were allowed then AA would have mangled Werdum in the first round. The UFC rules favour all these american fighters are wrestlers l’n'p artists. The rules favour wrestlers to heavily and it makes for boring fights.

If the Sherk Franca fight was pride rules Franca may well have finished him with head kicks and stomps.

R.I.P. Pride.

]]> By: epps http://mmamania.com/2007/07/28/video-griffin-next-mission-for-shogun-at-ufc-76/#comment-115206 epps Tue, 31 Jul 2007 00:25:44 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/07/28/video-griffin-next-mission-for-shogun-at-ufc-76/#comment-115206 hm.. He kicked Rampage's ass pretty good and it says a lot about the level he's at. However, I'm very curious to see how he'll adapt to different rules in UFC, where the kicking, kneeing, or even stomping on the head of a grounded opponent is not allowed. Yet, Shogun has shown that he can slugs it out with his fists as well. So, I'll go with Shogun for this one. Griffin can take a lot of punishments, but Keith "Dean of Mean" Jardine caught him with a KO early in first round. Griffin also lost to Ortiz. And Ortiz couldn't even fight against Chuck Liddell, who got KO'd by Rampage. hm.. He kicked Rampage’s ass pretty good and it says a lot about the level he’s at. However, I’m very curious to see how he’ll adapt to different rules in UFC, where the kicking, kneeing, or even stomping on the head of a grounded opponent is not allowed. Yet, Shogun has shown that he can slugs it out with his fists as well. So, I’ll go with Shogun for this one. Griffin can take a lot of punishments, but Keith “Dean of Mean” Jardine caught him with a KO early in first round. Griffin also lost to Ortiz. And Ortiz couldn’t even fight against Chuck Liddell, who got KO’d by Rampage.

]]> By: RobH86 http://mmamania.com/2007/07/28/video-griffin-next-mission-for-shogun-at-ufc-76/#comment-115154 RobH86 Mon, 30 Jul 2007 22:14:54 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/07/28/video-griffin-next-mission-for-shogun-at-ufc-76/#comment-115154 When I say more than 225 I mean 10 weeks out from fight time. When I say more than 225 I mean 10 weeks out from fight time.

]]> By: RobH86 http://mmamania.com/2007/07/28/video-griffin-next-mission-for-shogun-at-ufc-76/#comment-115153 RobH86 Mon, 30 Jul 2007 22:14:06 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/07/28/video-griffin-next-mission-for-shogun-at-ufc-76/#comment-115153 Well I think Shogun will win but that's just my 2 cents. However one of the things Forrest has going for him in this matchup is his size. Someone said he cuts from like 225. I think maybe more. I heard he had difficulty making weight against Ramirez. Tito cuts from like 220 a week from weighin I believe. Griffin is a monster and he's 6"3" I think. I think the biggest 205ers are probably Overeem, Griffin, Ortiz and Lil Nog. Not actually sure about Rogerio but he looked colossal against Shogun. Well I think Shogun will win but that’s just my 2 cents. However one of the things Forrest has going for him in this matchup is his size. Someone said he cuts from like 225. I think maybe more. I heard he had difficulty making weight against Ramirez. Tito cuts from like 220 a week from weighin I believe. Griffin is a monster and he’s 6″3″ I think.

I think the biggest 205ers are probably Overeem, Griffin, Ortiz and Lil Nog. Not actually sure about Rogerio but he looked colossal against Shogun.

]]> By: 12121212 http://mmamania.com/2007/07/28/video-griffin-next-mission-for-shogun-at-ufc-76/#comment-115079 12121212 Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:46:13 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/07/28/video-griffin-next-mission-for-shogun-at-ufc-76/#comment-115079 [quote post="2854"]I dont see Forrest making it out of First round. He's going to land of getting into a fight similar to the jardine showdown. There going to bang and he will lose the better exchanges [/quote] People don't realize A) Forrest can take serious punishment B) Shogun is not unbeatable C) Forrest will come out with a better gameplan than usual D) Because it is his octagon debut, Shogun probably won't be on the top of his game. Everyone thinks that Forrest is still the brawler who outfought Stephan Bonnar in the Ultimate Fighter 1 Finale. If you watch his last fight with Bonnar, you will see how much his striking has improved. If you watch his fight with Ortiz, you will see how good his cardio is and how much punishment he can take. And finally, if you watch his fight with Jardine, you'll notice that he wasn't doing bad until Jardine rocked him with an uppercut. If I had to predict the outcome of this fight, I would say that it will go the distance and there will be a split decision winner. [quote post=”2854″]I dont see Forrest making it out of First round. He’s going to land of getting into a fight similar to the jardine showdown. There going to bang and he will lose the better exchanges [/quote]

People don’t realize
A) Forrest can take serious punishment
B) Shogun is not unbeatable
C) Forrest will come out with a better gameplan than usual
D) Because it is his octagon debut, Shogun probably won’t be on the top of his game.

Everyone thinks that Forrest is still the brawler who outfought Stephan Bonnar in the Ultimate Fighter 1 Finale. If you watch his last fight with Bonnar, you will see how much his striking has improved. If you watch his fight with Ortiz, you will see how good his cardio is and how much punishment he can take. And finally, if you watch his fight with Jardine, you’ll notice that he wasn’t doing bad until Jardine rocked him with an uppercut.

If I had to predict the outcome of this fight, I would say that it will go the distance and there will be a split decision winner.

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