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THis should be a great fight!
Cote is a bum. He’s got no killer instinct. Why the guy is still fighting in the UFC is a mystery to me. Grove by decision.
Recap:
– Still training with Tito Ortiz and Team Punishment when he can — it’s hard since he now lives in Las Vegas.
– Not underestimating Cote … he has the power to knockout Grove if he is not careful.
– Wants to rematch Ed Herman someday because he thinks it’ll be another good fight (the two are friends).
– Thinks Jason MacDonald is a cocksucker for calling himself the TUF killer. He is a big mouth and one dimensional.
– He’s cool with guys after he fights them — mentions Joe Riggs, who “Embarassed Him” in front of his hometown fans.
– He would never fight Solomon Hutcherson, Chris Leben or Martin Kampmann.
– Needs to improve on using his natural attributes such as his reach before he can consider himself ready for a title shot.
– He loves to get beat up, and is working on becoming a more versatile fighter rather than just standing and eating shots from his opponents.
[quote comment=”113616″]Recap:
– Still training with Tito Ortiz and Team Punishment when he can — it’s hard since he now lives in Las Vegas.
– Not underestimating Cote … he has the power to knockout Grove if he is not careful.
– Wants to rematch Ed Herman someday because he thinks it’ll be another good fight (the two are friends).
– Thinks Jason MacDonald is a cocksucker for calling himself the TUF killer. He is a big mouth and one dimensional.
– He’s cool with guys after he fights them — mentions Joe Riggs, who “Embarassed Him” in front of his hometown fans.
– He would never fight Solomon Hutcherson, Chris Leben or Martin Kampmann.
– Needs to improve on using his natural attributes such as his reach before he can consider himself ready for a title shot.
– He loves to get beat up, and is working on becoming a more versatile fighter rather than just standing and eating shots from his opponents.[/quote]
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I think kendell is a very promising young fighter, he is charismatic, and his reach and size can cause a lot of fighters problems in the division. Once he learns to use his reach better he will be tough to beat because lets face it, he will have a big reach advantage everytime he fights. He has a lot more of a killer instinct then Cote. I would like to see him leave team punishment and go to train with Randy.
Kendal by submission.
y wont he fight Leben, Hutcherson and Kampmann??
“Thinks Jason MacDonald is a cocksucker for calling himself the TUF killer. He is a big mouth and one dimensional.”
Hopefully the UFC will give us a Jmac vs. Kendall showdown next… I don’t really think he should be calling himself TUF Killer until he takes out a TUF winner.
If Cote isnt impressive in this fight……… Time to shelf him
Im sick of hearin how some fighters refuse to fight others just because their “friends”… makes me wonder y they became professional fighters in the first place. ITS YOUR JOB TO FIGHT SO SUCK IT UP AND FIGHT WHOEVER THEY PUT IN FRONT OF YOU!! and if it happens to be a buddy of urs then all the better cuz afterwards u 2 can go out and have a few beers and leave it in the cage/ring
I can see Kendall getting to contender status within the next three years. He will be a great champion and his holding the title will be good for the UFC.
[quote comment=”113629″][quote comment=”113616″]Recap:
– Still training with Tito Ortiz and Team Punishment when he can — it’s hard since he now lives in Las Vegas.
– Not underestimating Cote … he has the power to knockout Grove if he is not careful.
– Wants to rematch Ed Herman someday because he thinks it’ll be another good fight (the two are friends).
– Thinks Jason MacDonald is a cocksucker for calling himself the TUF killer. He is a big mouth and one dimensional.
– He’s cool with guys after he fights them — mentions Joe Riggs, who “Embarassed Him” in front of his hometown fans.
– He would never fight Solomon Hutcherson, Chris Leben or Martin Kampmann.
– Needs to improve on using his natural attributes such as his reach before he can consider himself ready for a title shot.
– He loves to get beat up, and is working on becoming a more versatile fighter rather than just standing and eating shots from his opponents.[/quote]
THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE RECAP!!! thats so helpfull mania for us mma addicts who are at work and cant listen to the audio. your the best. good lookin out yo[/quote]
WORD!!!
Lucky for Grove, none of the guys he would never fight, will never be in his way of the title. Kampmann maybe, but I dont know how bad his knee is.
I hope Kendall gets his ass whooped for his post fight antics.
Kendall has been so freaking impressive in his last few fights, and I can’t wait to see him vs Cote. I like that the UFC isn’t pushing this guy too fast, even in the somewhat weak MW division. The pace he pushes is insane and he really uses a lot of tools, such as knees, elbows, and great submissions. I would love to see him vs Mcdonald around the end of the year.
Cote is one of those guys that you should never underestimate. You just never know what guy is going to show up. If the aggressive Cote come in to the cage your definetly in for a fight. If a slow hesitant Cote come in he’s a roll over fight. Grove needs to go in there and be the agressor the whole way through. Dec. is my best guess but Grove could finish him is he goes in there and utilizes all his tools
Cote, and Stout too… both good young Canadian fighters, but they don’t show that killer instinct. I want to see these guys unleash their fists.
[quote comment=”113661″]I can see Kendall getting to contender status within the next three years. He will be a great champion and his holding the title will be good for the UFC.[/quote]
Yeah, maybe if Anderson Silva gets hit by a bus. Otherwise, Grove would be doing his little celebration dance not from a victory but out of flying-knee induced delirium on a pile of his knocked out teeth.
[quote comment=”113661″]I can see Kendall getting to contender status within the next three years. He will be a great champion and his holding the title will be good for the UFC.[/quote]
I agree… kendall has a world of potential, ridiculous reach advantage over evryone in the division, and u has a warrior spirit.
I know he’s tito’s “lil buddy”, I hope he never gets one dimensional like tito…. I would like to see him with team quest….Randy will get the most out of his potential….all tito is good for is cardio
[quote comment=”113735″][quote comment=”113661″]I can see Kendall getting to contender status within the next three years. He will be a great champion and his holding the title will be good for the UFC.[/quote]
Yeah, maybe if Anderson Silva gets hit by a bus. Otherwise, Grove would be doing his little celebration dance not from a victory but out of flying-knee induced delirium on a pile of his knocked out teeth.[/quote]
Thats y he said “contender status”
When someone says MW is weak, I’m picturing Silva, Franklin, Okami, Marquardt- not to mention the Pride guys coming in. No way! If anything is weak it’s HW… well was. There’s another flood of new fighters. I just think a 43-year old undersized LHW coming out of retirement and taking the HW belt speaks for itself. RC is a great fighter but he should be home collecting social security- not wearing the belt.
I like both McDonald and Grove. That would be an excellent matchup!
nickels vs grove. battle of the bad tatoos
I like Grove as a fighter, I like that he always seems to want to improve, but I can’t stand some of his grandstanding shit.
Funny thing, so many people have shit on Bisping because of his opponents. Why hasn’t there been the same backlash against Grove? His opponents haven’t been top tier, yet most bloggers seem content with who the UFC brass has put in front of him. Both he and Bisping are talented, confident, and brash young fighters. Yet people see Bisping as being coddled when his matches are against less-than-top tier opponents. Taking nothing away from Cote (who predict will win this fight), but he’s not a top middle weight…
I love all the Muay Thai practitioners, and Kendall is one of my favorite up-and-comers. Gotta love that six-point striking!
Like it or not, RC isn’t a fluke or representative of how weak the heavyweight division is. Some people have more longevity than others, I couldn’t last at 44, but some people are freaks, Couture being one of them. He deserves all kudos that come from being UFC heavyweight champ.
Grove should be retiring Cote though.
[quote post=”2846″]When someone says MW is weak, I’m picturing Silva, Franklin, Okami, Marquardt- not to mention the Pride guys coming in. No way! If anything is weak it’s HW… well was. There’s another flood of new fighters. I just think a 43-year old undersized LHW coming out of retirement and taking the HW belt speaks for itself. RC is a great fighter but he should be home collecting social security- not wearing the belt. [/quote]
Randy winning the belt speeks nothing of how weak the HW div is . He is one of the best HWs in the world, ( his age is irrelevant).
Grove to full of himself but i guess alot of fighters are. I see Grove being mediocre at beat. Ive never really been amazed by his fights and probalby never will be.
“mediocre at beat” i meant mediocre at best.
kendall has beat no one and will be lucky to get by cote.I would love to see j mac snap one of them long arms or better yet sink his legs arond his stack of dimes for a neck like he did his buddy herman
[quote comment=”113653″]Im sick of hearin how some fighters refuse to fight others just because their “friends”… makes me wonder y they became professional fighters in the first place. ITS YOUR JOB TO FIGHT SO SUCK IT UP AND FIGHT WHOEVER THEY PUT IN FRONT OF YOU!! and if it happens to be a buddy of urs then all the better cuz afterwards u 2 can go out and have a few beers and leave it in the cage/ring[/quote]
I agree whole heartedly! Be a “professional” not a coward hiding behind this excuse to fight someone who you don’t think you can beat.
[quote comment=”113778″][quote comment=”113735″][quote comment=”113661″]I can see Kendall getting to contender status within the next three years. He will be a great champion and his holding the title will be good for the UFC.[/quote]
Yeah, maybe if Anderson Silva gets hit by a bus. Otherwise, Grove would be doing his little celebration dance not from a victory but out of flying-knee induced delirium on a pile of his knocked out teeth.[/quote]
Thats y he said “contender status”[/quote]
Yeah. He also said he WILL be a great champion, and his HOLDING THE TITLE will be good for the UFC. Which is what I was taking issue with. That’s like saying: “Grove is a pretty good fighter. Has a shot…Can’t wait till he has thumped the rest and reigns supreme in the division.” Zuh? That’s a bit of a sudden leap in skill from one sentence about Grove’s potential to the next. How do you get from contender to champ without meaning you think he will cover that distance. So again, unless you can get the title by some magical circumstance other than fighting the champion, I’m pretty sure Kendall will still be face down on the canvas with Silva’s fist stuck in his eye. I don’t know that there are a lot of contenders who WILL hold the title who would expect to hang out and fight other randoms until Silva drops dead of a heart attack or something. Otherwise, the bottom line is that even if you are just too lazy to read the last half of this dude’s statement before you throw in your two cents, even being a “contender” means that you could, in fact, “contend” for the belt. What the hell did you think a contender was? Although with your baffling lack of grip on reading and MMA I guess you are fresh on the UFC scene from watching unlicensed boxing in a bar in Mobile, Alabama and only knew the word contender from the show where ex-heavyweight champ of the world Rocky Balboa runs the show.
[quote comment=”113875″][quote comment=”113653″]Im sick of hearin how some fighters refuse to fight others just because their “friends”… makes me wonder y they became professional fighters in the first place. ITS YOUR JOB TO FIGHT SO SUCK IT UP AND FIGHT WHOEVER THEY PUT IN FRONT OF YOU!! and if it happens to be a buddy of urs then all the better cuz afterwards u 2 can go out and have a few beers and leave it in the cage/ring[/quote]
I agree whole heartedly! Be a “professional” not a coward hiding behind this excuse to fight someone who you don’t think you can beat.[/quote]
Very well put. Add me to the list of those who agree. Next thing you know, some of these dudes are going to be walking around saying they can only fight 2 or 3 dudes in their division because they’re poker pals with the rest of them. I remember when some fighters used to put one name on their no-fight list. Now we have three names for Grove, then five names for the next one, etc.
“Never fight Leben??” every MW fighter wants to fight Leben.
[quote post=”2846″]Grove to full of himself but i guess alot of fighters are. I see Grove being mediocre at beat. Ive never really been amazed by his fights and probalby never will be. [/quote]I think what is impressive about Grove is how much he improves with every fight and the fact that he is a 6′7″ middleweight which obviously creates a lot of problems. I was not impressed at all by him during TUF then in the final against Ed Herman he looked pretty decent and his last two fights since TUF he looked much better in each fight and I was very impressive with his last fight where he completely dominated. I’m not saying he could be Anderson Silva right now or anything but give him two years and I think he’ll be a top 3 or 4 middleweight.
[quote post=”2846″]When someone says MW is weak, I’m picturing Silva, Franklin, Okami, Marquardt- not to mention the Pride guys coming in. No way! If anything is weak it’s HW… well was. There’s another flood of new fighters. I just think a 43-year old undersized LHW coming out of retirement and taking the HW belt speaks for itself. RC is a great fighter but he should be home collecting social security- not wearing the belt.[/quote]I think a good measure of how strong a division is is if you look at how many guys have a legitamite shot at taking the belt away. In the middleweight I can’t name 1. I mean Franklin is very very good but I dont see his rematch with Silva going much different that the first one. Okami probably has the best chance to beat Silvia but I highly doubt he could do it. I mean Terry Martin is one of the top 5 middleweight fighters right now I think that speaks for how weak the division is. Heavyweight is absolutely stacked right now though. I mean Couture, Conzaga, Cro Cop, Nog, Arlovski, and hopefully soon Fedor, I would say that is a pretty stacked division.
does any one know who is up next for j mac or any ideas?
[quote comment=”113808″]I like Grove as a fighter, I like that he always seems to want to improve, but I can’t stand some of his grandstanding shit.
Funny thing, so many people have shit on Bisping because of his opponents. Why hasn’t there been the same backlash against Grove? His opponents haven’t been top tier, yet most bloggers seem content with who the UFC brass has put in front of him. Both he and Bisping are talented, confident, and brash young fighters. Yet people see Bisping as being coddled when his matches are against less-than-top tier opponents. Taking nothing away from Cote (who predict will win this fight), but he’s not a top middle weight…[/quote]
Excellent point. I’ve been thinking this for a long time. I agree completely.
Quite frankly, I think you will be seeing Cote in Cage Rage or something after this fight…he just seems to have problems stringing together wins in the Octagon…and Kendall will continue to be fed weak ass opponents…Dana needs to build him up for the future shows in Hawaii…Nevertheless, i feel Da Spider has some potential to offer us some quality entertainment as he develops his skills…we will see…
[quote comment=”113735″][quote comment=”113661″]I can see Kendall getting to contender status within the next three years. He will be a great champion and his holding the title will be good for the UFC.[/quote]
Yeah, maybe if Anderson Silva gets hit by a bus. Otherwise, Grove would be doing his little celebration dance not from a victory but out of flying-knee induced delirium on a pile of his knocked out teeth.[/quote]
READ. I said “contender status”. That means he would be in line to fight for it. The latter part will happen too, because Silva is in his 30s already and Grove is only 24. I don’t doubt that Silva would whoop his ass if they fought later this year. Silva is probably the most dominant champion right now. But when he gets older and Grove hits his prime, he will take the title, and I dont doubt that it will still be Silva who he has to beat.
Jason MacDonald is the TUF killer
JMac is fighting Okami next month