I can’t wait to see the look on his face when he wakes up!!! GO HAMILL!!! TKO/KO, just shut this fool up!!!

The UFC has been coddling the golden boy of the UFC for far too long. Michael Bisping doesnt have a future at light heavyweight, and Im not enitrely sure he can be a true 185 pounder. Dana and Joe silva have been treating this guy like he’s a 9 year old who just lost his pet hamster. He is finally going to get a few punches thrown in his face and I bet he wont like that too much.

Cant wait to see Hamill GNP his ass. Bisping will not be able to stop the takedown.

Wasn’t it Bisping that had a problem with Tito bringing in a translator for Hamil on the TUF show? He didn’t like how Hamil got the special treatment.

This is a tough fight for both guys. I think it is more of a tough fight for Bisping. Bisping could knock Hamill out or Hamill could lay on top of Bisping for the whole fight squeezing out a decision. I like Hamill alot and I am going to cheer for him. Hopefully Hamill wins. I would like to see the winner of this fight take on Forrest and I would like to see the loser of this fight take on Bonnar.

Knee to the head when shooting in to try and lay and pray.

but hamil doesnt like to take people down he likes to strike and that might be his mistake but i really hopw hamil beats bisbing

Hammil wins via Bisping DQ for illegally elbowing hammil in the back of the head in an attempt to turn him into the next helen keller

I think Bisping is the real deal, he was impressive in his last bout. Hamill has more wrestling credentials, but hes too inexperienced at MMA to beat Bisping. Hampster boy is going down. Id love to see Bisping and Griffin fight, that would be a worthy opponent.

[quote comment=”106419″]but hamil doesnt like to take people down he likes to strike and that might be his mistake but i really hopw hamil beats bisbing[/quote]
Considering how absolutely horrible Hamill looked in striking he better lay-and-pray because he doesn’t have a hope in hell in a striking match with Bisping.

I think hamill is going to manhandle bisping, he is much stronger and has a wrestlers confidence that is unique. and his not hearing might be an upside because not hearing the crowd might help him think more as hes fighting. Hamill wins by tko.

Bisbing will crush Hamill in the 1st round. Remember on the show when Hamill got all butt hurt because Kendell Grove hit him too hard and gave him a headache when all he wanted was blueberry pancakes from IHOP or wafflehouse? My point being after a couple hard shots from Bisbing he wont know what to do. I see Matt Hamill tapping out from strikes! write that down.

By the way Hamills cornermen cant give him any advice during rounds. So when he’s in trouble in the octagon he’s all alone.

Bisbing vs the winner of Lidell-Jardine (Jardine) for the title shot.

Hamill’s a bum…has he learnt how to throw a punch yet?

[quote comment=”106424″]I think Bisping is the real deal, he was impressive in his last bout. Hamill has more wrestling credentials, but hes too inexperienced at MMA to beat Bisping. Hampster boy is going down. Id love to see Bisping and Griffin fight, that would be a worthy opponent.[/quote]

..an impressive win over ” Elvis ” the Aussie..Com’on man…Bisping has not fought a ” Killa ” yet..I don’t even think Hamill is a Killa..How about SHOGUN vs. Bis..what do you think would happen?? I think ” da count ” would be counted out KO’D.

We will probably start seeing more of this type of match up. The top guys from TUF have finally reached the point where they can only fight each other.

The UFC and Joe Silva coddles fighters who they think can attract a target audience, like Huerta w/ Hispanics. Bisping is their token Western European. So when the UFC wants to expand to Asia, look for some “Average Joe” Asian fighter to run up a padded record.

Quit piling on Bisping. He’s two fights into a 9-fight contract. He has plenty of time to work his way up to tougher fighters. All he can do is fight the people Dana and Joe put in front of him, and thus far he’s done that quite well. As for Hamill, he’s a douchy little blanket, and when he eats a few punches he’ll want to quit.

After Bisbing runs through hammil Dana needs to give him a shot a chuck and if he has what it takes throw him at the champ (Dan/Rampage).

[quote comment=”106439″][quote comment=”106424″]I think Bisping is the real deal, he was impressive in his last bout. Hamill has more wrestling credentials, but hes too inexperienced at MMA to beat Bisping. Hampster boy is going down. Id love to see Bisping and Griffin fight, that would be a worthy opponent.[/quote]

..an impressive win over ” Elvis ” the Aussie..Com’on man…Bisping has not fought a ” Killa ” yet..I don’t even think Hamill is a Killa..How about SHOGUN vs. Bis..what do you think would happen?? I think ” da count ” would be counted out KO’D.[/quote]

PHILQNY, Bisping is the real deal, but he is not the best. I think Chuck, Rampage, Hendo, and especially Shogun would destroy him, I won’t argue with you there. Aside from those 4, Bisping is the man to beat in the LHW division.

I hope Joe Silva gives him Forrest after this. That would prove or disprove my point.

[quote comment=”106410″]The UFC has been coddling the golden boy of the UFC for far too long. Michael Bisping doesnt have a future at light heavyweight, and Im not enitrely sure he can be a true 185 pounder. Dana and Joe silva have been treating this guy like he’s a 9 year old who just lost his pet hamster. He is finally going to get a few punches thrown in his face and I bet he wont like that too much.[/quote]

Apparently, you forgot he is fighting Hammil. Hammil is notorious for having butt-ugly standup. Hammil’s only chance is to take Bisping down, lay on him, and pray he doesn’t get back up.

My prediction, Matt “One-Trick-Pony” Hammil catches a knee to the face during one of his four hundred takedown attempts.

Although Bipsing did win the show, he really beat no one. First, look at his competition on the show:

1) Kristian Rothaermel - Clearly, the worst fighter on the show. If I recall, he was smoking a cigar and drinking the night before the fight.
2)Ross Pointon - Clearly, the second worst fighter on the show. In fact, he competed at 185 and moved up to 205 just so they had someone to fight.
3) Josh Haynes - Although I admire Josh’s situation with his son, I do not believe he has won a fight in the UFC.

—Actually, this highlights a real problem with TUF competitors. Where do they get these guys.

After TUF, his competition has been subpar at best:

1) Eric Shaeffer - By far his toughest opponent. He struggled with him at first.
2) Elvis - Enough said.

I am not saying that Hamill is the man, but certainly Bisping has done nothing impressive.

jason
i couldnt agree with u more

Hamill is plain and simple a TURD at MMA. Excellent wrestler, but certainly doesn’t know how to punish anyone and give an ass-whoopin.

Bisping is nothing special yet either, but he is tough and has the desire to kick peoples ass. That alone wil get him through some of these easy opponents, but he better keep improving as he works his way up to better guys.

[quote comment=”106450″]Quit piling on Bisping. He’s two fights into a 9-fight contract. He has plenty of time to work his way up to tougher fighters. All he can do is fight the people Dana and Joe put in front of him, and thus far he’s done that quite well. [/quote]

I agree. Personally, I like Bisping. I don’t think he is the be-all, end-all, but I am looking forward to his future fights. I think one of the things he learned from Tito (and Hammil for that matter may have learned it too) is how to hype a fight. Of course, this leaves a lot of people branding you as pompous and full of yourself, but it promotes the fight.

That being said, I agree with what Jason said too. Too early to tell.

So in general, put the blame for lack of competition for TUF fighters on the UFC, and not on the fighters. Even Griffin and Jardine and such took a while before we saw them getting the Tito/Chuck fights. We’ll know more after 75, but hopefully the fight AFTER that will be versus some quality opponent

Bisping was by far my favorite on TUF 3 with Hamill a close second. He was very humble, willing to learn, and even displayed a good family man persona outside of the octagon. Since, he’s developed into this arrogant f*ck who is not the same fighter I enjoyed seeing win the TUF 3 season finale.

Dana White has been feeding him easy fights to buff up his undefeated record and then he goes out and tells every LHW fighter that they need to watch their quote-on-quote, “Motherf*cking backs.” Give me a break, put him in their with Liddell, Shogun, Henderson, Rampage, and we’ll all see Bisping get his ass knocked back to England.

Go Hamill, demolish this arrogant punk. Hoping for a first round knockout of Bisping - maybe that’ll shut him up and help him get back to his old humble self.

[quote comment=”106465″][quote comment=”106439″][quote comment=”106424″]I think Bisping is the real deal, he was impressive in his last bout. Hamill has more wrestling credentials, but hes too inexperienced at MMA to beat Bisping. Hampster boy is going down. Id love to see Bisping and Griffin fight, that would be a worthy opponent.[/quote]

..an impressive win over ” Elvis ” the Aussie..Com’on man…Bisping has not fought a ” Killa ” yet..I don’t even think Hamill is a Killa..How about SHOGUN vs. Bis..what do you think would happen?? I think ” da count ” would be counted out KO’D.[/quote]

PHILQNY, Bisping is the real deal, but he is not the best. I think Chuck, Rampage, Hendo, and especially Shogun would destroy him, I won’t argue with you there. Aside from those 4, Bisping is the man to beat in the LHW division.

I hope Joe Silva gives him Forrest after this. That would prove or disprove my point.[/quote]

..Aight Bro..but another match up could be Babalu vs. Bisping..I like Forrest vs. Bisping 2..my only beef wit the UFC and their poster english child..don’t feed him a bone..pit him against a fighter that hold’s their own.

I agree that he hasn’t fought anyone tough, but you can’t go from elvis sinosic to shogun in one step. bisping would obviously get stomped out.

If we weren’t getting stuck with Liddell v Jardine, it might have been a decent fight to see bisping v jardine.

they won’t do bisping v forrest b/c they’re two guys they love to market from TUF

This is an interesting match up. If it goes to a decision I pick hamill if theres a stoppage I’m pretty sure its bisping, I give bisping 60% chance to win and hamill 40%, my take on this fight.

the only thing I liked about Bisping was the subtitles when he speaks. I agree that he has had no competition what so ever in TUF or UFC.

Really hope that the Hammer has sharpened up his standup! Lowers his head way to much. Im pullin for Hammill all the way, hopefully he can shut this fool up.

I want Hamill to win, i just dont like Bisping….

Bisping is gonna tear through Hamill so viciously that you Hamill fans are gonna be crying yourselfs to sleep.
Oh no whats Hamill gonna do,hes gonna try to pin Bisping for three rounds,he cant GnP coz hel get submited and he cant stand with him coz he will get murdered,and by the way with 20,000 jeering Brits there the Ref is not gonna let Hamill grind out a boring desicion,NO WAY ON EARTH!.

[quote post=”2763″]Hamill’s a bum…has he learnt how to throw a punch yet? [/quote]

exactly!

[quote comment=”106410″]The UFC has been coddling the golden boy of the UFC for far too long. Michael Bisping doesnt have a future at light heavyweight, and Im not enitrely sure he can be a true 185 pounder. Dana and Joe silva have been treating this guy like he’s a 9 year old who just lost his pet hamster. He is finally going to get a few punches thrown in his face and I bet he wont like that too much.[/quote]

Let me tell you somthing mate,growing up in the north of england Im sure Mike Bs had plety of punches to the face before he even thought about doing martial arts.Explain to me who from TUF has had it harder then Bisping.
And before you comment any further on MB please please do some research on him coz if you cant see his potential then,just do your research before you comment any further.

[quote comment=”106469″]Although Bipsing did win the show, he really beat no one. First, look at his competition on the show:

1) Kristian Rothaermel - Clearly, the worst fighter on the show. If I recall, he was smoking a cigar and drinking the night before the fight.
2)Ross Pointon - Clearly, the second worst fighter on the show. In fact, he competed at 185 and moved up to 205 just so they had someone to fight.
3) Josh Haynes - Although I admire Josh’s situation with his son, I do not believe he has won a fight in the UFC.

—Actually, this highlights a real problem with TUF competitors. Where do they get these guys.

After TUF, his competition has been subpar at best:

1) Eric Shaeffer - By far his toughest opponent. He struggled with him at first.
2) Elvis - Enough said.

I am not saying that Hamill is the man, but certainly Bisping has done nothing impressive.[/quote]

Bisping KOed evryone he fought on the show and came through every fight unscaved,Hamill in his first fight won but got so bashed up he was kicked off the show,he lost,it is that simple,he can make all the excuses he wants and try to tarnish Bispings name and achievments but it still wont change the fact HAMILL LOST TUF3,HE BLEW IT,HE GOT TOO BASHED UP TO CONTINUE IN THE COMPETITION,A DOCTOR TOLD HIM THAT,BISPING HAS NEVER REFUSED TO FIGHT HIM,IT IS HAMILLS FAULT HE LOST NOT BISPINGS FAULT HE WON.

I don’t know why so many of you like Hamill so much, I’m from his home city and even I don’t like him, and let me tell you why, its a pretty simple reason….hes a little bitch. He obviously can’t take a punch, look at what happened when Bisping and even Kendall Grove (who shouldn’t have too much power considering how lanky he is) hit him in training “too hard”. He went to the hospital about 3 times and they turned out to be pussy-itis type injuries….meanwhile Bisping beats the shit out of everyone they throw him up against and you guys hate him?

I agree that Bisping has been acting like a jerk since winning TUF3. All the 3rd and 4th tier 205 lb fighters need to watch their F’ing backs, because that’s where Michael Bisping sits.

“All the handicapped fighters of the world better watch their F’ing backs!”

[quote post=”2763″]Kendall Grove (who shouldn’t have too much power considering how lanky he is)[/quote]

How does lankiness have to do with striking power? Anderson Silva anyone?

Anyways, after Bisping wins, I’d like to see him face the winner of Tito/Rashad II.

Bisping vs Rashad Evans sounds like a great and necessary fight.
Even a Bisping/Tito fight would be interesting.

[quote comment=”106553″]Bisping vs Rashad Evans sounds like a great and necessary fight.
Even a Bisping/Tito fight would be interesting.[/quote]
Bisping-Cheato would be a great grudge match after Bisping mops the floor with Cheato’s boy Hamill.

Bisping is going to shitkick Hamill. Say what you want about Bisping being cottled, but everyone else off TUF got bums to fight for their first few bouts. Forrest Griffin fought Bill Mahood and Sinosic before he got his first test in Ortiz. And Bisping got Shafer and Sinosic. Sure he is not getting an Ortiz level fighter for his third fight, but considering many people here think Hamill will win by some magical skill that he has yet to show in the octagon, why all the bitching about having no true opponents? Bisping is going to tear Hamill to pieces when Hamill loses his bloody mind again and tries and stand with him. And when this all goes down and all the people who called for Hamill to win turn around and say he was useless, it still only means Bisping got one more rollover fight than fan-favorite Griffin before he was put up against top-level competition.

If Bisping wins and ends up fighting Sean Salmon then sure, get him his bottle and change his diaper, but until then, lay off the hooch people.

How funny would it be if tito lost to bisping?

Whoa? Why all the Bisping hate? Fun as hell to watch and a finisher.

And what’s the logic in saying “he ain’t nothing… he needs to fight tougher guys.” If he’s no good, why should he fight better guys? Answer: Because he IS very good, and makes average guys look bad.

I don’t agree with Dana/Silva on everything, but they know what they’re doing here. Bisping definitely has the potential to be something special, but he needs some more wins (read: fans) before he fights the big dogs. Case in point: A lot of you guys have done NOTHING but whine and complain about the Jardine/Liddell match up.

If Bisping were to face Liddell or someone like that, people would be bitching about that. Dana/Silva don’t want that and are allowing Bisping to “work his way up” to the top names… so by the time he gets there, he’ll be a top name too.

[quote comment=”106422″]Hammil wins via Bisping DQ for illegally elbowing hammil in the back of the head in an attempt to turn him into the next helen keller[/quote]
Ha! Sick bastahd.

do the people wog love hammil because he’s american or because hes deaf. because theres noway you can appreciate that fighting style!

why does bisping get so much bashing from 3 fights and others who slowly work their way up the ufc are just allowed 2 slowly improve and are watched with interest. dont hate michael because the way hes being marketed. thats not his fault!

so to all you pricks stfu!

[quote comment=”106469″]Although Bipsing did win the show, he really beat no one.
After TUF, his competition has been subpar at best:

1) Eric Shaeffer - By far his toughest opponent. He struggled with him at first.
2) Elvis - Enough said.

I am not saying that Hamill is the man, but certainly Bisping has done nothing impressive.[/quote]
I have to agree with you that Bisping was the only guy with real experience prior to the show. They hid him in the flock with these 15 other goofballs. I believe Bisping was fighting in the Cage Rage organization over in England which is between the UFC and WEC in talent. The other guys were smoking cigars and getting arrested.

plus has ne1 read the article. they say he got a $1 million deal from winning tuf 3. lol. do some research people.

UFC is trying to grow in europe, where Bisping is a star, he mustn’t lose.
they will not give him a true contender anytime soon. Hamill is a great guy, but Bisping has more energy and way better striking, he will win again nd the UFC will be happy.

[quote comment=”106411″]Cant wait to see Hamill GNP his ass. Bisping will not be able to stop the takedown.[/quote]

Ya if Hamill will take him down. It seems like he is always wanting to stand up and then when it does go to the ground his GNP is just mediocre. I think if Hamill tries to stand up with Bisping, he will get worked.

im picking bisping because i think hamil will just be dumb enough to stand with him. i think bisping would get dominated on the floor, but who knows if hamil will get him there, it’s all in hamil’s head.

Bisping will kill Hamill but it still won’t prove anything to me. They are just padding his stats.

[quote comment=”106428″]Bisbing will crush Hamill in the 1st round. Remember on the show when Hamill got all butt hurt because Kendell Grove hit him too hard and gave him a headache when all he wanted was blueberry pancakes from IHOP or wafflehouse? My point being after a couple hard shots from Bisbing he wont know what to do. I see Matt Hamill tapping out from strikes! write that down.[/quote]
[quote comment=”106432″]Bisbing vs the winner of Lidell-Jardine (Jardine) for the title shot.[/quote]

It’s Bisping not Bisbing, and you said I was slow and dumb.

I hope Hammer destroys him, but his GNP wasn’t great the last fight. Bisping is OK. Defo one for the future I’d say. Like Koscheck, it’ll take him a while to find his feet. But I’m still a bigger Hamill fan so I hope he cracks Bis open and leaves him in his own blood

Bisping will not be able to stop the taakedown but his hands and overall skills are so much better. I got Bisping at 11 overall of top LHW’s in the world. If he his successful at 75 as he should be, I would like to see him fight some top 10 guys. A potential Ortiz/Bisping, Shogun/Bisping, even a Liddel/Bisping fight would be great

Basically everyone’s bashing Bisping because he’s English. They just don’t understand that type of competitive English mentality.

Bisping is 2 times light heavyweight British kickboxing champion and had 10 fights in mma before TUF3. He was also Cage Rage light heavyweight champion.

Look at his fights against Mark Epstein; they’ve been much harder than the bums he’s fought in America.

Bisping will beat Tito if and when they fight.

Like a few others have said, do your research first.

Hope he mangles Hamill and calls out Tito (who’ll probably be cornering Hamill, whatever good that does). Bisping can then fight the winner of Rashad/Tito 2.

Tito Bisping would be like Liddell Tito style wise. (Not saying Bisping is that good yet).

Tito would shoot in and Bisping would knee him in the face ala Franca to Sherk. Accept it would be fu@king lights out.

Btw I think Rashad-Tito is 50/50. Can’t call it. Griffin would beat Tito in a rematch.

he’s never going to hear bisping coming!

[quote comment=”106659″]he’s never going to hear bisping coming![/quote]

wow that is by far the funniest thing on this post.

[quote comment=”106656″]Basically everyone’s bashing Bisping because he’s English. They just don’t understand that type of competitive English mentality.

Bisping is 2 times light heavyweight British kickboxing champion and had 10 fights in mma before TUF3. He was also Cage Rage light heavyweight champion.

Look at his fights against Mark Epstein; they’ve been much harder than the bums he’s fought in America.

Bisping will beat Tito if and when they fight.

Like a few others have said, do your research first.[/quote]

People are either bashing him because he’s English or because he hasn’t proved a thing yet. I won’t deny that the overwhelming American/Canadian support for the UFC, but there are legitimate reasons why people aren’t calling him the next big thing. It is highly premature to jump on his bandwagon unless you are English because he does not have a signature win. After that, he needs sustained success. After Chuck knocked out Randy the first time, many were wary to ordain him “the greatest.” His long ride on TOP(until Rampage) garnered him his hype. Other fighters have hype without winning the title because of sustained success and signature wins(think Shogun). He needs to beat an “A-list” fighter.

[quote post=”2763″]People are either bashing him because he’s English or because he hasn’t proved a thing yet. I won’t deny that the overwhelming American/Canadian support for the UFC, but there are legitimate reasons why people aren’t calling him the next big thing. It is highly premature to jump on his bandwagon unless you are English because he does not have a signature win. After that, he needs sustained success. After Chuck knocked out Randy the first time, many were wary to ordain him “the greatest.” His long ride on TOP(until Rampage) garnered him his hype. Other fighters have hype without winning the title because of sustained success and signature wins(think Shogun). He needs to beat an “A-list” fighter. [/quote]

I’m Irish and think he’s the real deal so there isn’t the English bias there. You can only beat whats put in front of you. I saw him after UFC 72 doing a mess stare down with Rampage in the lobby of the Hilton Hotel. There is just this air about him when you meet him in person that he belongs there and that no one fazes him. He would get in the octagon with Rampage, Chuck, Wandy or Shogun at a moments notice and try and decapitate them. Fair enough he’s not at that level yet and would probably lose to all of them but mentally he was born ready. That’s just the way he strikes me.

He’s a bit like Evan Tanner. In a similar place in the LHW rankings to where Tanner is in the MW rankings. They share that warrior spirit and they don’t mind getting cut or rocked.
Plus they’re both dangerous and don’t do boring fights.

I know that Bisping hasn’t really proved himself to be a superstar considering quality of recent opponents, but damn, Hamill is way more unproven. Hammill is a Div-3 wrestling champion at Rochester Institute of Technology. He won a prelim fight via *decision* against Mike Nickels in TuF 3, and was unable to continue due to injuries. Mike Nickels, who Bonnar just defeated 2 minutes into the fight in the last UFC, was able to pummel Hammill so badly that Hammill couldn’t continue in the competition.

How can you possibly put him as the favorite against Bisping, the undefeated former Cage Rage champion, that completely destroyed everyone in TUF 3 as well as his last two less-than-worthy opponents in completely one-sided beatdowns.

Bisping should rightfully be a heavy favorite, and I think he’s going to tear through Hammill rather easily.

[quote comment=”106671″]I know that Bisping hasn’t really proved himself to be a superstar considering quality of recent opponents, but damn, Hamill is way more unproven. Hammill is a Div-3 wrestling champion at Rochester Institute of Technology. He won a prelim fight via *decision* against Mike Nickels in TuF 3, and was unable to continue due to injuries. Mike Nickels, who Bonnar just defeated 2 minutes into the fight in the last UFC, was able to pummel Hammill so badly that Hammill couldn’t continue in the competition.

How can you possibly put him as the favorite against Bisping, the undefeated former Cage Rage champion, that completely destroyed everyone in TUF 3 as well as his last two less-than-worthy opponents in completely one-sided beatdowns.

Bisping should rightfully be a heavy favorite, and I think he’s going to tear through Hammill rather easily.[/quote]

Don’t forget that Hammill had one of his arms injured during the training before he fought with Nickels. So, Hamill basically fought with Nickels with just one arm. And his jaw was also bum from the hard kick by Grove. So with both bummed jaw and arm while fighting against Nickels and won says a lot about his sheer will to win. Nickels was cowering on the ground most of the fight anyway.

[quote comment=”106544″][quote post=”2763″]Kendall Grove (who shouldn’t have too much power considering how lanky he is)[/quote]

How does lankiness have to do with striking power? Anderson Silva anyone?

Anyways, after Bisping wins, I’d like to see him face the winner of Tito/Rashad II.[/quote]

completely disagree that kendall doesn’t have striking power.

but although it would be a proving point for bisping that fight would be a step down for tito and rashad. rashad wouldn’t wanna fight a guy like bisping after beating tito ortiz and tito wouldn’t even fight griffin, saying it was a step down, he’s trying to move up and be champion he already said he wants shogun. neither guy would be pleased with fighting bisping.

Hammill is absolutely pathetic. Keep him standing and he looks like a swimmer going for his power stroke…Homebody needs to “listen” to his critics.

Everyone complaining about newbie’s opponents, lets just throw up and comers to the champ to knaw on.

Lets get rid of the minors in baseball.

Heck, no practice squad in football.

Everyone goes straight to the top. No learning, no getting used to the competition, no getting their feet under them. Just go right in and fight someone that is next in line for a title shot. Hell with them getting better.

bisping by knock out in 2nd hamill or however you spell it is weak and is a wrestler he should just go to wwe and make a name there i dont see him being a big star in ufc or anyother mma fighting leagues thank you bisping is awesome and underrated screw all you haters!

bisping wins by ko in 2nd no if ands or buts ya’ll know its gonna happen hamill is sooo lame and sucks period at mma bye bye hamill

[quote comment=”106704″]Hammill is absolutely pathetic. Keep him standing and he looks like a swimmer going for his power stroke…Homebody needs to “listen” to his critics.[/quote]

don’t forget he’s deaf.. how was he supposed to “listen”?

[quote comment=”106581″][quote comment=”106469″]Although Bipsing did win the show, he really beat no one.
After TUF, his competition has been subpar at best:

1) Eric Shaeffer - By far his toughest opponent. He struggled with him at first.
2) Elvis - Enough said.

I am not saying that Hamill is the man, but certainly Bisping has done nothing impressive.[/quote]
I have to agree with you that Bisping was the only guy with real experience prior to the show. They hid him in the flock with these 15 other goofballs. I believe Bisping was fighting in the Cage Rage organization over in England which is between the UFC and WEC in talent. The other guys were smoking cigars and getting arrested.[/quote]

Bisping was put against Mark Epstien on his third MMA fight and they were using him as cannon fodder for Mark but Mike beat him by KO,so Mike fought him again and KOed him again,he was the Cage Rage Light heavyweight champ,Cage warriors LH champ,British kickboxing super heavy weight champ and I belive there is another MMA organization he has held the belt in.Before TUF3 bisping had meetings with people from PRIDE FC and K1 but chose to go on TUF3.He has showed extrodinary talent and his record shows it.He did not pick the fighters he would be living in the house with.

[quote comment=”106674″][quote comment=”106671″]I know that Bisping hasn’t really proved himself to be a superstar considering quality of recent opponents, but damn, Hamill is way more unproven. Hammill is a Div-3 wrestling champion at Rochester Institute of Technology. He won a prelim fight via *decision* against Mike Nickels in TuF 3, and was unable to continue due to injuries. Mike Nickels, who Bonnar just defeated 2 minutes into the fight in the last UFC, was able to pummel Hammill so badly that Hammill couldn’t continue in the competition.

How can you possibly put him as the favorite against Bisping, the undefeated former Cage Rage champion, that completely destroyed everyone in TUF 3 as well as his last two less-than-worthy opponents in completely one-sided beatdowns.

Bisping should rightfully be a heavy favorite, and I think he’s going to tear through Hammill rather easily.[/quote]

Don’t forget that Hammill had one of his arms injured during the
training before he fought with Nickels. So, Hamill basically fought with Nickels with just one arm. And his jaw was also bum from the hard kick by Grove. So with both bummed jaw and arm while fighting against Nickels and won says a lot about his sheer will to win. Nickels was cowering on the ground most of the fight anyway.[/quote]

I garuntee you every fighter on all the TUF shows had some kind of injury they just didnt cry about it like Hamill.
I feel bad for Hamill fighting Bisping because its clear to see that he is deluded and belives that his wrestling makes him the best fighter in the world,he obviously dosnt like getting hurt and now hes up against a fighter with probably the most evil and vicious style in the LH division.

Nice to see that my comment was deleted thanks !

I have alot of respect for matt hammill and what he is doing despite his disability but I do not see him winning this fight. Matt has really bad stand up and from what i have seen no jiu jitsu he soley relies on wrestling and that is not going to be enough to beat a fighter with the skill set of michael bisping.

[quote comment=”106469″]Although Bipsing did win the show, he really beat no one. First, look at his competition on the show:

1) Kristian Rothaermel - Clearly, the worst fighter on the show. If I recall, he was smoking a cigar and drinking the night before the fight.
2)Ross Pointon - Clearly, the second worst fighter on the show. In fact, he competed at 185 and moved up to 205 just so they had someone to fight.
3) Josh Haynes - Although I admire Josh’s situation with his son, I do not believe he has won a fight in the UFC.

—Actually, this highlights a real problem with TUF competitors. Where do they get these guys.

After TUF, his competition has been subpar at best:

1) Eric Shaeffer - By far his toughest opponent. He struggled with him at first.
2) Elvis - Enough said.

I am not saying that Hamill is the man, but certainly Bisping has done nothing impressive.[/quote]

He has 2 fights in the UFC. You think he should be fighting top contenders? He has to work his way to the top.

Hammill is garbage and I think it’s hilarious that anyone even thinks he has a chance in this fight. Hammill has wrestling, and with no BJJ to help him out, I think when he “lays and prays”, Bisping is gonna rip his right arm off and force him to tap, just like he did on the show during practice.

Hammill’s stand-up isnt even considered sub-par, its a fucking double bogey. He has HORRIBLE stand-up and Bisping has slightly above average hands, I see Bisping winning every possible situation he is put in for this fight. Bisping by knockout late in the first, or early in the second.

[quote comment=”106877″][quote comment=”106674″][quote comment=”106671″]I know that Bisping hasn’t really proved himself to be a superstar considering quality of recent opponents, but damn, Hamill is way more unproven. Hammill is a Div-3 wrestling champion at Rochester Institute of Technology. He won a prelim fight via *decision* against Mike Nickels in TuF 3, and was unable to continue due to injuries. Mike Nickels, who Bonnar just defeated 2 minutes into the fight in the last UFC, was able to pummel Hammill so badly that Hammill couldn’t continue in the competition.

How can you possibly put him as the favorite against Bisping, the undefeated former Cage Rage champion, that completely destroyed everyone in TUF 3 as well as his last two less-than-worthy opponents in completely one-sided beatdowns.

Bisping should rightfully be a heavy favorite, and I think he’s going to tear through Hammill rather easily.[/quote]

Don’t forget that Hammill had one of his arms injured during the
training before he fought with Nickels. So, Hamill basically fought with Nickels with just one arm. And his jaw was also bum from the hard kick by Grove. So with both bummed jaw and arm while fighting against Nickels and won says a lot about his sheer will to win. Nickels was cowering on the ground most of the fight anyway.[/quote]

I garuntee you every fighter on all the TUF shows had some kind of injury they just didnt cry about it like Hamill.
I feel bad for Hamill fighting Bisping because its clear to see that he is deluded and belives that his wrestling makes him the best fighter in the world,he obviously dosnt like getting hurt and now hes up against a fighter with probably the most evil and vicious style in the LH division.[/quote]

Jeez, you must really be in love with Bisping. So what if Matt Hamill wins this one? There is a popular saying among the fighters in the mma world, “everyone has a puncher chance.” Can’t wait to hear what you’re gonna say about that. There is no guarantee, not even for those who are heavily favored to win the fight.

As for the show, I don’t see Hamill crying about his injuries. He seems want to continue to continue with the fights, but the doc wouldn’t allow him. Even the assistant coach scolded the team for picking unfairly on Matt Hamill, which then everyone apologized for their immature and petty behaviors toward Hamill. That’s pretty much all I see on the show. Crying? I don’t see any evidence of that.

Bisping will destroy “Sammich.” Its not even going to be close, Bisping via vicious Muay-Thai knees for the TKO in the first round.

I take Bisbing in this one, though it could be close. Hammill has game on the ground but he seems to want to strike with his opponents. If he tries this with Bisbing, he could very well be KOed.

Put Bisbing up against anyone not named Lidell, Rua, Sylva, Henderson, or Jackson, and he’ll win. He’s not far off the top tier in the 205 division.

Those who criticize Bisbing for a lack of quality opponents, consider how long he’s been in the UFC. Take a look at all the top fighters, they too needed time to develop. Did Matt Hughes fight Penn in his first or second fight? Did GSP fight Matt Hughes in his first three fights? Look how long Evans waited for a top fighter in Tito. The point; of course the UFC needs to develop it’s stars. Every business must do this. Besides, Bisbing doesn’t book his fights, big Joe does.

Fighters need to develop and earn their shots (at belts). The UFC does a good job (for the most part) developing fighters as well as allowing fighters the opportunity at greatness.

I think you USA boys are in for a real shock, Michael Bisbing is the real deal. Matt maybe strong but once his hands drop by by head!!

I don’t really care for either of these fighters. Hopefully it’s brutal that’s all I care about.

[quote comment=”107363″]I think you USA boys are in for a real shock, Michael Bisbing is the real deal. Matt maybe strong but once his hands drop by by head!![/quote]

I think the yanks underestimate us badly,Bisping is gonna tear Hamill up,I think standing up he dosent even have the punchers chance,Bisping would rip him up standing and on the ground he would probably be delivering more damage to Hamill from his back while looking for the submision.
Hamills stand up is truly horrible,in his last fight did you not see his spinning side kick and his four consecutive superman punch atempts,it was horrible to watch,and it was that performance that convinsed him he is ready for Mike B.
If Hamill thinks he can stand with Bisping I could see this being a 20 second fight and after instead of Hamill calling people out in his interview hel be anouncing his retirement from MMA and his return to wrestling.

EPPS, I remember seeing Hamill growling at people and all the other fighters said that he was trying to hurt them in training,and when ever he took a half hearted shot from any of the fighters he started crying about it and going to hospitle,hes too used to getting special treatment for his disability but unfortunatly for him MMA is not a sport you get special treatment in.Tito gave him special treatment and held him up as being the next great champ probably for one reason,not that he believed that,but because he simply wanted to get in the other fighters heads and piss them off.

What are you guys gonna say if bisping loses? I remember similar talk with the gsp/serra fight, though not as one sided most here are giving hamill move of a chance than they gave serra, anything came happen in this wonderful sport.

[quote comment=”107363″]I think you USA boys are in for a real shock, Michael Bisbing is the real deal. Matt maybe strong but once his hands drop by by head!![/quote]

Yeah damn right…Bisping’s striking is on a really high level plus they have no idea how tough he is. Crack square on the chin and if he buckles he’ll recover faster than any other fighter at 205, look at Tito what a joke. He can take an almighty hit. He won’t go down like GSP, because it simply wouldn’t rock him. Look at him against Elvis, a knee was just a wake up call.

My only concern is that Bisping doesn’t have enough decent training partners in the Wolf’s Lair to improve over the next 3 years. Hamill can only win by l’n'p, in front of a hostile crowd that will not be allowed to happen.

My only concern is that Bisping doesn’t have enough decent training partners in the Wolf’s Lair to improve over the next 3 years. Hamill can only win by l’n'p, in front of a hostile crowd that will not be allowed to happen.

I think that issue is being resolved

Yeah especially since Bisping has been training with the Rampage Jackson camp. And who better to train for strenght than the strongest 205. Bisping knocks him out in the first round

Mike hasn’t flown out to Big Bear yet, he goes in 5 days time and hopefully I will join him the week after

[quote comment=”106482″]Bisping was by far my favorite on TUF 3 with Hamill a close second. He was very humble, willing to learn, and even displayed a good family man persona outside of the octagon. Since, he’s developed into this arrogant f*ck who is not the same fighter I enjoyed seeing win the TUF 3 season finale.

Dana White has been feeding him easy fights to buff up his undefeated record and then he goes out and tells every LHW fighter that they need to watch their quote-on-quote, “Motherf*cking backs.” Give me a break, put him in their with Liddell, Shogun, Henderson, Rampage, and we’ll all see Bisping get his ass knocked back to England.

Go Hamill, demolish this arrogant punk. Hoping for a first round knockout of Bisping - maybe that’ll shut him up and help him get back to his old humble self.[/quote]

what the hell are you tlking about,who off any of the TUF series has had tougher opponents on their first two fights,list them for me.
Forrest Griffen fought Bill Mahood on his first fight and guess who on his second? ELVIS SINOSIC!!!!!

[quote comment=”111545″]Mike hasn’t flown out to Big Bear yet, he goes in 5 days time and hopefully I will join him the week after[/quote]

who are you then?do you train with him?

I can only say the ref better be ready to pull Bisping off.
Hamill has made this personal and you can be sure Bisping will be out to do the maximum physical damage and leave Hamill in no doubt about who really won TUF 3.

I am one of his coaches

[quote comment=”119428″]I can only say the ref better be ready to pull Bisping off.
Hamill has made this personal and you can be sure Bisping will be out to do the maximum physical damage and leave Hamill in no doubt about who really won TUF 3.[/quote]

And all that is not going to take but 30-40 seconds.

Maybe I’m missing something here, but for the life of me, I can’t figure out why anyone even things this will be a fair contest. Hammill couldn’t throw a punch hard enough to hurt my sister…

It is true anything can happen in this sport, but I gave Serra a much better chance of beating GSP than I give Hammill against Bisping. Just can’t see him causing Bisping any serious trouble.

As for the the arrogance debate, Bisping has much greater reason to be arrogant than Hammill.

Bisping vs. Hamill That was the worst judging of a fight I have ever seen. I would love to have seen the punch stats! I would love to have seen the takedown points. Bisping was on his heels for 95% of the fight. Hamill took it to him, and was robbed! I am not even a big fan of Hamill, just a fan of the sport. It was so bad I felt like I was watching a rigged boxing match. BOOO!! There were quite a few BOO’s coming from the crowd at the final decision! Bisping had no class and was not half the fighter Hamill was tonight!

UFC lost points with me and many, many others with that decision. No way Bisping won that fight. I think they were afraid of a riot or something. Sad day for UFC fans!

Hamill CLEARLY won that fight ALL 3 rounds as far as striking, take downs, and ring control with only #3 debatable. It was also sad to see Joe Rogan fold and not even address the issue in the post fight interview with Bisping. Wow I cant believe this. Im so disapointed. I used to be a huge boxing fan till it got ridiculously shady. Please dont let this happen to the UFC.

HAMILL VS BISPING Boooooooooooooo! UFC you droped the ball on that one!

Bisping/Hamill fight was sooo fixed. Hamill clearly led the whole fight. Funny how the fighter from England got the win. Very disappointed in judges and UFC.

Matt you won in my books. You out fought bisping. To bad the judges did not pay attention to the fight. Must of been watching the ring girls or something. Keep on going Matt your a winner.

If that worthless asshole had any respect for MMA and the ufc he would admit he was beat instead he ran his mouth Dana White should step in and right this wrong AND NEVER LET THOSE JUDGES WORK ANOTHER UFC EVENT AGAIN. It wasn’t even a close fight and Joe Rogan didn’t have the balls to stand up for the real winner MATT HAMILL !!!

Anyone that watched the fight could clearly see that hamil won that fight. The judges might not be deaf but they are sure as hell blind to give the win to bisbing.

After reading comments on some other sites the UFC has lost a lot of hard core fans over this bullshit. The fight might of been free but it also looked fixed I have only missed two UFC events on PPV from day one but if this is where it’s headed they can kiss my ass I will keep my $40 bucks and I’m not even a huge Hamill fan but he got the Royal English screwing! If they fight again just let BISPING hand pick the judges.

I have emailed the ufc and gave them a piece of my mind. You all should also. And we all should not rent the next Pay Per View UFC 76. 31 - 28 Hamill.
Email the ufc
Email the ufc
Email the ufc
Email the ufc
Email the ufc
Email the ufc
UK , Fuck off
Dana White, Man up Bitch and do something about this.

[quote comment=”106411″]Cant wait to see Hamill GNP his ass. Bisping will not be able to stop the takedown.[/quote]
The ufc has joined figure skating, boxing and pro wrestling
in terms of judging. I will never watch or purchase any services or products involving the ufc. The ufc had a chance to do something pure as it gains popularity but judging on Hamill’s fight cheapened the whole evening and the sport!!!

Joe Rogan, not scared to say ANYTHING. Uh, hey bud cat got your tongue? Why didn’t you stand up and be counted? Do you know that Hamill won? You are so cutting edge and nothing seems to be off limits for you. Does you paycheck have anything to do with your silence? We are waiting.

Dana White - Who? Oh yeah the pres of wwf oops I mean UFC.

UFC - Ultimate Fixed Competition and not my $ recipient any longer

Matt Hamill - Wow - huge development - Winner!

Bisping - I can’t believe you danced around like a winner…pussy…you make me sick! You should have personally corrected the judges and walked out…At least you would have maintained respect.

nuf said…