Still not sold on Gonzaga, impressive showing on a unmotivated crocop(not to take anything away tho, props to the guy! Nasty kick). Secondly, The Iceman should never in a million years be placed in front of Shogun. Besides that im fine. move Shogun to 1.

what about bj he only has one fight so far in this new 155 come on

I agree with the placement of BJ, not a fan of his but the man has some serious talent. Also, another note at 155, Frank Edgar is gonna be a force at 155!! Mark my words.

Diego Sanchez should be up there. The guy loses one fight, inwhich he was obviously not himself, and everyone hates him. Nogueira should be ahead of Gonzaga

terry martin is a little high on the mw list, diego not being in the top five ww is a travesshamockery, he lost one fight, i don’t think roger huerta has earned a top 5 status yet, who has he beat really? guys like edgar and griffin and din thomas and spencer fisher are all more proven than he is right now…anyway its a pretty good list this month, heres mine…

heavyweight: randy couture
1. gonzaga (he earned the #1 contender with the cro cop KO)
2. big nog
3. cro cop
4. sylvia (the back problems make me nervous, but he’s still top 5 for now)
5. arlovski

honorable mention: vera, werdum, herring, kongo

light heavyweight: rampage jackson
1. rua (he’s scary good, best lhw in the world probably)
2. chuck
3. dan henderson
4. wanderlai silva
5. tito ortiz (wasn’t too impressive against rah, but he still was winning the fight)

honorable mention: machida, forrest, rah, bisping, jardine, bonnar, lambert, babalu, thiago silva

middleweight: anderson silva
1. rich franklin
2. marquardt (didn’t look great against silva, but could still probably whoop most other mws)
3. lutter
4. okami
5. kampmann

honorable mention: kendall, mcdonald, terry martin, mcfedries, ed herman, thales leites, evan tanner

welterweight: matt serra
1. gsp
2. matt hughes
3. diego sanchez (yes he lost to kos, but was he 100 percent, and he still beat karo, so if you can’t rank diego ahead of kos, you can’t rank karo ahead of diego, right? i say bullshit to that, diego is the best of the three)
4. karo
5. koscheck

honorable mention: fitch, lytle, swick, fickett, marcus davis,

lightweight: sean sherk
1. bj penn
2. joe stevenson
3. kenny florian
4. frank edgar
5. tyson griffin

honorable mention: hermes, spencer fisher, guida, din thomas, tavares, huerta,

[quote comment="106752"]Still not sold on Gonzaga, impressive showing on a unmotivated crocop(not to take anything away tho, props to the guy! Nasty kick). Secondly, The Iceman should never in a million years be placed in front of Shogun. Besides that im fine. move Shogun to 1. [/quote]
shogun is good but he is not the super heroe evryone says he is. i think forest has a solid c hance to beat him and chuck is still a bad man

Machida ahead of Rashaad? Seems like all the heavyweights look like Sh*t except randy and gonzaga. I wanna see Huerta vs Franca, Stevenson vs Florian and same with every weigh class matchup the 5th and 4th guy, then the 3rd and 2nd guy.

[quote comment="106769"][quote comment="106752"]Still not sold on Gonzaga, impressive showing on a unmotivated crocop(not to take anything away tho, props to the guy! Nasty kick). Secondly, The Iceman should never in a million years be placed in front of Shogun. Besides that im fine. move Shogun to 1. [/quote]
shogun is good but he is not the super heroe evryone says he is. i think forest has a solid c hance to beat him and chuck is still a bad man[/quote]

http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/samba supernova/video/x29lmz_mauricio-shogun-rua-samba-supernova

He will KO Forrest in the first round, mark my words. With that being said, putting Shogun at #1 in the ufc when he hasn’t even fought there yet is kind of strange. He will be up there eventually, though

Yeah, the fact that Karo is in the top 5 and Diego isn’t is laughable. Everything else looks good. To the people ready to crown Shogun king, lets see him beat a couple more names first. He may indeed be the best, but he has far from proved it. Top 5? Hell yeah. No 1? Hell no.

[quote comment="106775"][quote comment="106769"][quote comment="106752"]Still not sold on Gonzaga, impressive showing on a unmotivated crocop(not to take anything away tho, props to the guy! Nasty kick). Secondly, The Iceman should never in a million years be placed in front of Shogun. Besides that im fine. move Shogun to 1. [/quote]
shogun is good but he is not the super heroe evryone says he is. i think forest has a solid c hance to beat him and chuck is still a bad man[/quote]

http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/samba supernova/video/x29lmz_mauricio-shogun-rua-samba-supernova

He will KO Forrest in the first round, mark my words. With that being said, putting Shogun at #1 in the ufc when he hasn’t even fought there yet is kind of strange. He will be up there eventually, though[/quote]

Yeah but half of that video of him doing stuff in pride is not allowed in the UFC, we’ll see how he adapts.

sorry george, but after seeing Rua fight in person at both pride fights and seeing him fight in Japan, there is no one in the 205 that can stop him. Hes a cardio freak, can take a punch(watch his demolition of rampage). Machida has the cardio and style that could frustrate and take him to a decision but Overeem tried that plan to a brutal KO, but no fighter in the UFC is going to be able to handle the pace that Rua always brings. He will beat forrest via submission or ko in the first round, gain the belt from rampage id say in the second. what i think sucks worse is that silva will demolish liddell and we will never see a rua-silva fight.(for you rookies, Chute Boxe fighters will never fight each other).
also, i have a feeling fedor will be anounced after the gonzaga-couture fight and then your heavyweight rankings will change. while i agree with Yohnstoppable, the only two fighters who should come in ranked #1 WITHOUT having to prove anything should hands down be Fedor & Rua. If UFCmania, a site i have grown to love, puts Fedor second to anyone in the heavyweight division, i may have to slit my wrists right away. then blood all over the laptop.. CAN YOU IMAGINE THE MESS!!! everything else looks ok, but id put bj ahead of sherk.

Here’s mine

HW: Couture
1. Gonzaga(got the Cro Cop KO)
2. Arlovski (The man will be champ again I promise!!)
3. Tim Sylvia (He sucks, but the guy wins)
4. Nogeira (Almost got KTFO by Herring(actually he did))
5. Cro Cop (Better hope he doesnt lose to Congo)

LHW: Jackson
1. Henderson (He’s the champ, give him credit for it)
2. Liddell (He has beaten some faces despite his loss)
3. Shogun (Should get a title shot with a win)
4. Machida (I just hate this guy)
5. Ortiz (He keeps his face around, doesn’t he.)

MW: Silva
1. Franklin (I have the Franklin Faith he will win)
2. Okami (He’ll get a title shot soon enough)
3. Marquardt (Not sure where he will go from here)
4. Lutter (Looked impressive against Silva, has potential)
5. Martin (I think he will stay at this position forever)

WW: Serra
1. Hughes (The guy wins, give him his credit!)
2. GSP (Will surely be champ again)
3. Koscheck (Will always be a contender,possibility for champ)
4. Parysian (Damn good fighter period, will never dissapoint)
5. Sanchez (Close call with him and Fitch)

LW: Sherk
1. Penn (Should beat Sherk, world class fighter)
2. Stevenson (Impressive submissionist, possibility for champ)
3. Florian (Impressive as well)
4. Edgar (great fighter, possibility for champ)
5. Griffin (Awesome fight with Guida!!)

Yes, Hermes got bumped off that fast! LW is deep!!!
And Just because some of you may think my lower ranked guys may beat the higher ranked ones, doesnt mean I dont think the same. I just give credit where credit is due in title contention. I based it on wins style of recent fights.

Mania, check your rankings on LHW you have Rua at 2 listed number 3, and Henderson at 3 listed number2.

I also can’t wait for the return of Evan Tanner, Middle Weight needs his name in there badly!

for no reason should karo be in front of kos. and diego should also be somewhere in the ww mix.

and i’m curious why when gsp loses to serra he’s number 1 but when anyone else loses a championship fight they get moved all the way to like 4 or just completely taken off the top 5.

Don’t like Machida in the top 5… He dosen’t finish fights. He seems to lack that killer instinct. While he has beaten a couple of big names in Franklin and Penn, both those guys fight in a smaller weight class.

Also, Trry Martin is a bit of a stretch. He’s had a couple of good showings now at MW, but that doesn’t warrant a better ranking than Marquardt… Lets not forget that he used to get smoked at 205. He needs to prove himself against a game opponent before he makes the list.

You should rename it to UFC contender list, because quite frankly: your list is a bit too volatile. One single fight turns everything upside down, but this is not necessarily criticism about your list, but how the UFC works in general.

Randy does one single fight against an overrated Tim Sylvia who never really faced a Top #3 HW before. He wins and suddenly he becomes the greatest champ of all time. I like him, but c’mon.

Gonzaga does one single impressive fight and becomes #1 contender and is ranked higher than Cro Cop or Nogueira? By that logic Liddell should be ranked below Shogun and Henderson, especially since Henderson is the #1 contender right now.

I hope one day the UFC will have a transparent point and ranking system which prevents biases match-ups for championships. Or does anyone argue that guys like Bisping get a free ride to a title fight?

The whole ranking system is whacked. For the most part I agree with YouTapped. Like for example, a fighter wins his last 6 fights, but not one of his oppoents is ranked in the top 5. How can you justify giving that particular fighter a high ranking? Or for that matter a title shot? A point ranking is the only true way to really get a accurate ranking. But then again, thats just my opinion. What about andrei arlovski? He’s won both his fights since his last loss to Sylvia. He should be ranked higher, he’s definitely proven himself.

[quote comment="106769"][quote comment="106752"]Still not sold on Gonzaga, impressive showing on a unmotivated crocop(not to take anything away tho, props to the guy! Nasty kick). Secondly, The Iceman should never in a million years be placed in front of Shogun. Besides that im fine. move Shogun to 1. [/quote]
shogun is good but he is not the super heroe evryone says he is. i think forest has a solid c hance to beat him and chuck is still a bad man[/quote]

Im not sold on the shogun bullshit, hes to aggressive and to reckless, not a smart fighter. if Griffen fights him like he did Remirez he definitely has a shot, on the other hand Machida would have one, no doubt in my mind.

What happened with Kampmann at middleweight? Did he leave the UFC? He was supposed to get a title fight but he pulled out… I think before Marquardt was put in. Or hmmm… was he supposed to fight Franklin pre-Okami? I’m getting old and feeble.

[quote comment="106871"]You should rename it to UFC contender list, because quite frankly: your list is a bit too volatile. One single fight turns everything upside down, but this is not necessarily criticism about your list, but how the UFC works in general.

I hope one day the UFC will have a transparent point and ranking system which prevents biases match-ups for championships. Or does anyone argue that guys like Bisping get a free ride to a title fight?[/quote]
I agree the list is volatile and it would be great if there were an algorithm for setting the rankings- like the BCS rankings in football. Of course people will still b!tch about the outcome of the transparent formula.
The thing that kills the formula idea is the rocks, paper, scissors nature of MMA. AKA just because fighter A beats B and B beats C, that does NOT necessarily mean A would beat C. Of course I should cough up an example here to support my point. Well, we’ll find out soon with Sera-GSP-Hughes although that sequence chronologically is B->C, A->B so far.

It’s hard to find any three guys who have fought each other. Okay- Silva, Franklin, Okami. Silva beat Franklin, Franklin beat Okami, Okami beat Silva (disq). That screws up trying to sort them out. Oh wait- Penn, GSP, Hughes. Hughes beat Penn, split with GSP, GSP beat Penn. That one’s cleaner but now Penn has dropped out of the weight class.

Hughes is the number 1 contender in welterweight division, not GSP. Huerta should be ranked ahead of “K-Flo”. Other than that, I pretty much agree.

Come on Karo above Diego and Kos???
The rest looks pretty good to me.
I think Huerta should be above Franca.

A lil update if you will

Sean Sherk

Contenders
1. BJ Penn (wheter we like it or not) NOT
2. Joe Stevenson (unless he loses to queer bag Kurt Pellegrino)
3. Kenny Florian (solid win streak)
4. Din Thomas (impressive in his old age)
5. Hermes Franca (still a strong fighter)

This is where its all relative
6. Roger Huerta
7. Melvin Guillard (Cocaine or not tough as hell and his only recent loss is to Joe Stevenson)
8. Spencer Fisher (Lost to a # 1 contender, followed up with a war)
9. Frank Edgar
10. Tyson Griffen

Other noteables
a. Nate Diaz
b. Clay Guida (nice fighter but has 2 straight loses)
c. Joe Lauzon
d. Gray Maynard

Kevin “cuts” Kelly

P.S. Karo Parysian is not a top five fighter, and IF HE IS for some reason unknown to me, how is he ranked higher than Josh Koscheck. On the basis that Karo lost to Diego and Koscheck beat Diego, Karo cant be ranked higher. Welterweight rankings certainly lank credibility.

I guess beating Josh Burkman who is probably ranked anywhere from 7th to 9th gets you in the top 3 contenders bracket. Woooo Hoooo Karo “crybaby/Do you know what I can do to these punks” Parysian is my hero

Another thing, even though there are a lack of great heavyweight fighters, is it me or is Tim “bitch tits” Sylvia ranked kind of high for getting manhandled for 25 minutes. Oh I guess he is ranked 4th based on his sciatica/lower back issues. He gets a pass ?

What is Dana planning on doing with Andrew Arvlovski I mean as unimpressive as his win at UFC 70 was, shouldnt he be fighting soon. He was the champion not too long ago.

I am curious to know if Josh Koscheck defeats George St. Pierre, if GSP maintains his rank of # 1 on this website. If so it would be ridiculous. Who cares if he is “a phenomenal athlete” – Joe Rogan

Many say ohhh he underestimated Matt Serra. Well if your dumb enough to do that, then you should certainly fall in the rankings on account of dumb-shitted-ness (not a word).

WW COULD look like this …

Matt Serra

1. Matt Hughes (With him being the #1 contender and all and does have a win over GSP is this really so hard to grasp?)
2. GSP
3. Jon Fitch (Has beaten a tough Roan Carneiro, Josh Burkman, Thiago Alves who is pretty atheltic, and a decent Brock Larson among others)
4. Josh Koscheck (without question the best wrestler in MMA and like it or not wrestling is allowed in the UFC, get sused to it … Holds a huge win over a guy we all know to be tough Diego Sanchez)
5. Diego Sanchez

You Karo fans may be wondering just how in the hell is Diego ranked in the top 5 and Karo isnt. Its basically simple.

1. Karo is a cany ass crybaby and I just dont like him. Picks on fighters at 155 with virtually no experience.
2.Both fighters have beaten Nick Diaz and basically identical fighters in Riggs (Diego) and Fickett (Karo).
3. Diego beat Karo

Anything else ?

Kenflo ftw

*btw his link is broken on your list, Hermes’ link directs toward it

does anyone know what’s up with AA, have heard nothing in awhile….thanks

I mostly agree with your choices. The only divison I have a problem with is the middleweight. I think Thales Leites, Drew McFriedes, Mike Swick, and Kendall Grove are all better than Jason MacDonald.

I don’t think In light weight tyson griffin should be before clay guida, because i think guida won that fight.

Shouldn’t sanchez be ahead of parisyan? he lost to him, how does he get ahead?
should be
1.st.pierre
2.hughes
3.koscheck
4.sanchez
5.parisyan

[quote comment="107133"]Shouldn’t sanchez be ahead of parisyan? he lost to him, how does he get ahead?
should be
1.st.pierre
2.hughes
3.koscheck
4.sanchez
5.parisyan[/quote]
what about fitch…this guy is so talented i think he should be right up there

HW
RC
GG
Nog
CC
AA (Only because he beat Werdum, and Sylvia’s back is done)
TS

LHW
QRJ
CL
MSR
DH
WS (if Dana ever signs him)
TO

MW
AS
RF
NM
YO
TL (much more impressive than both Martin and Mcdonald)

WW
MS
GSP
MH
DS (definetly still better than KOS and destroyes Parisyan)
JK
KP or JF

LW
SS (ahead by lightyears)
BJP (although only one fight in 155 it’s BJ Penn!)
JS (He should be able to handle his own and earn the next shot)
KF
HF
RH

Doesnt upset me at all not to see Sanchez in the top five his last performance was disgusting!! I dont agree with karo being any higher than 5. but you all have a point Diego beat him so simple logic gives 5th rank to Diego.
1. GSP
2. HUGHES
3. KOSHNECK
4. FITCH
5. SANCHEZ

Only other question where is Kendall grove? Not Enough experience? He seems to be doing well. Maybe next month.
Nate was destroyed by Silva he could have been dropped from the list. It would be nice to see Yushin fight another contender, any contender!!

Huerta will be the LW champ someday, I hope that this is his last tune up fight and he can take on Stevenson or Edgar. Or any of the top 5 would be great.

Here is my opinion on the current ufc ranks. Those who are about to get title shots I put at #1, based on them being the #1 contenders.

HW
Champ: Couture
1. Gonzaga
2. Nog
3. Crocop
4. Sylvia
5. Arlovski

LHW
Champ: Rampage
1. Henderson
2. Shogun
3. Chuck
4. Silva
5. Machida

MW
Champ: Silva
1. Franklin
2. Okami
3. Nate
4. Tanner (rumored to be coming back)
5. Martin

WW
Champ: Serra
1. Hughes
2. GSP
3. Koscheck
4. Diego
5. Karo
5(tie). Fitch

LW
Champ: Sherk
1. Penn
2. Stevenson
3. Franca
4. Edgar
5. Florian

I second that motion.. Where is Snachez?

no way matt serra in the top 5.

1. GSP
2. Matt Hughes
3. Karo P.
4. Josh K.
5. Diego S.

Serra is not in top 5, he is the champ.

Once and for all St. Pierre cannot possibly be ranked ahead of Matt Hughes … In the real world, Hughes is lined up for a title shot thus making him the real # 1 contender. On top of that, they have both beat each other once, and lost to each other once. I see no argument on how St. Pierre cant be # 1 … Based on talent ? Athleticism ?

ohhhhh he is #1 in all of you eyes because he was a dumb shit to “underestimate” an opponent. How is that even possible ? In a fight, at least on my block, you usually know before the other guy wants to hurt you … right ?

Matt Hughes 43-5 the greatest welterweight of all time PERIOD. Just call it how it is based on the facts.

-Defeated Carlos Newton twice when he was tough
-Defeated Sean Sherk
-Defeated Frank Trigg twice when he was tough
-Defeated BJ Penn
-Defeated GSP
-Defeated Royce Gracie (60 years old or not if you enter the octagon you’re a real man)
-Defeated Joe Riggs when he had credibility

Kampmann should definitely be on the list at middle weight.. Good old Ronald MacDonald hasn’t done anything but get manhandled by Franklin

Where’s Weems at? This is BS

The heavyweight rankings are out of wack, but the rest is solid. Cro Cop pounded out an uninspired win against Eddie Sanchez(who?) then was devastated by Gonzaga. Big Nog was defeated (then given a second chance in the same fight) by Heath Herring. Andrei Arlovski is coming off a first round KO (Cruz), then a decision victory over a top 8 ranked fighter in Werdum. He also was promised the top contender spot if he won that last fight, and he did. So by all counts, he should be in the slot after Randy and Gonzaga. Nog and CC are being ranked on their past work? Fine, Arlovski went three years undefeated and a title run before Sylvia got lucky. No way have they earned top ranking yet.
To answer a couple of inquiries about what is up with AA, and believe me, I’ve been checking, the answer is: nothing. It was reported that Dana said he will not get the next title shot. Now it seems Dana was waiting to see how Nog would do. He may choose one of the two as the next challenger, or make them fight. But as far as I know, Arlovski has not been contacted yet.

[quote post="2765"]Still not sold on Gonzaga, impressive showing on a unmotivated crocop(not to take anything away tho, props to the guy! Nasty kick). Secondly, The Iceman should never in a million years be placed in front of Shogun. Besides that im fine. move Shogun to 1. [/quote]
These are UFC rankings based on performance, talent and experience. He’s got a 10 in talent ,but he has 0 cage experience and 0 performance in the UFC. Don’t you think it’s a little more fair to let him prove himself in the cage before you bump him ahead of the long reining champion who’s KO ed everyone he fought in the past couple years.

you guys that are on diego’s bag need to get off, wouldn’t want to catch that staph! he’s so overrated & i have to have someone wake me up after his fights are over. plus, aren’t you sick of him praying to clouds and shxt?

[quote comment="106871"]I hope one day the UFC will have a transparent point and ranking system which prevents biases match-ups for championships. Or does anyone argue that guys like Bisping get a free ride to a title fight?[/quote]

The problem with doing it by a point system is that you’ll have the champion face the same 2-3 guys every match. It’d be A. Silva vs Frankin IV, followed by A. Silva vs Okami III, then A. Silva vs Franklin V, etc.

It’s more interesting to have all the top 10 guys fight each other once than to have them fight the guy ranked right below and above them in points 3 or 4 times as they try to slowly climb up the point rankings.

When Bisping gets the free title shot, bitch about it then. The UFC has done a very good job with giving out title shots, except for the TUF 4 fiasco.

[quote post="2765"]You should rename it to UFC contender list, because quite frankly: your list is a bit too volatile. One single fight turns everything upside down, but this is not necessarily criticism about your list, but how the UFC works in general.
Randy does one single fight against an overrated Tim Sylvia who never really faced a Top #3 HW before. He wins and suddenly he becomes the greatest champ of all time. I like him, but c’mon.
Gonzaga does one single impressive fight and becomes #1 contender and is ranked higher than Cro Cop or Nogueira? By that logic Liddell should be ranked below Shogun and Henderson, especially since Henderson is the #1 contender right now.
I hope one day the UFC will have a transparent point and ranking system which prevents biases match-ups for championships. Or does anyone argue that guys like Bisping get a free ride to a title fight? [/quote]
Henderson is getting a free ride to a title fight. It’s one thing to beat the champ and become champion, but ones odds go WAY down when you have to beat the top 4 or 5 guys and then beat the champ. A perfect example is Sera. Sera wouldn’t have got through the top guys to even get a title shot if he took the same road as GSP.

Diego Sanchez was not one hundred percent when he faced Kos. He did come close to beating him though. Also he did beat Karo in what i consider a great fight. He was also undefeated prier to the loss to Kos.

[quote post="2765"]1. Matt Hughes (With him being the #1 contender and all and does have a win over GSP is this really so hard to grasp?)[/quote]
Ya ,it’s really hard to grasp,considering the last fight Hughes got owned by GSP and Georges beat Sherk and Trigg much more convincingly. Two years ago Matt was ranked above GSP,time changes things. Gsp progressed much more the Hughes did and should be ranked above him. Their next meeting will erase all doubt.

[quote post="2765"]. Josh Koscheck (without question the best wrestler in MMA and like it or not wrestling is allowed in the UFC, get sused to it … Holds a huge win over a guy we all know to be tough Diego Sanchez)[/quote]
Beating a Diego that didn’t do anything for 15 min. and beating GSP is comparing apples to oranges. If I was a Kos fan I’d be worried how easily Diego took his back and how he leaves his chin up. Gsp’s wrestling has alowed him to take all of his opponents down and to vertually avoid all takedown attemps,(at least in the last 2 years) that is pretty dam good wrestling.

I agree with Spida on every single one. People like Dan Henderson and BJ Penn should really be in there twice. Dan in LHW and MW, and BJ in LW and WW.

[quote post="2765"]I mostly agree with your choices. The only divison I have a problem with is the middleweight. I think Thales Leites, Drew McFriedes, Mike Swick, and Kendall Grove are all better than Jason MacDonald. [/quote]
I think Jason Macdonald is better than all of above.

[quote post="2765"]Nate was destroyed by Silva he could have been dropped from the list. It would be nice to see Yushin fight another contender, any contender!![/quote]
Well your at it why don’t you drop Chuck, Gsp and Cro Cop from the list too because they got destroyed worse than Nate. At least Nate was in control on the ground for a bit. It take more than one loss to negate all previous wins.

[quote comment="106757"]what about bj he only has one fight so far in this new 155 come on[/quote]

of course he’s #1. He’s the best fighter in that entire weight class. I do give Sherk a lot of credit, although I co believe he will take the belt from him in the future. BJ Penn is so good that he should be in the top five in the Welterweight division. He has a new conditioning coach and in the best shape of his career.

lw fighter ranking might change dramatically soon. watch out for marcus aurellio. hopefully the ufc will consider signing gilbert “el nino” melendez. he would make a huge impact on the lw rankings and hopefully they will bring back nick diaz and have him fight at 155 too.

[quote comment="106752"]Still not sold on Gonzaga, impressive showing on a unmotivated crocop(not to take anything away tho, props to the guy! Nasty kick). Secondly, The Iceman should never in a million years be placed in front of Shogun. Besides that im fine. move Shogun to 1. [/quote]

Why should Shogun be number one,yeah he was great in pride but a large percentage of his fights he has won doing things that are illegal in the UFC,lets see how he does in the octagon with UFC rules before we start jumping to conclusions.
Im starting to get the impresion that alot of you Shogun nuthuggers had never seen someone kicked or stomped in the head before you saw shogun so now you think he is unstopable,it looked vicious to you so you thought “I wish I could do that to Biff(the American bully)”.
I have been watching Shoguns fights over and over and yes he is a great fighter,but to be honest I cant see what makes you so sure he is just gonna destroy the UFC LH division,infact I am more conserned he is gonna be a disapointment on his first fight.

Oh, come on! How can you possibly put Tito in the top 5? The guy hasn’t beat a quality opponent in years except for Evans (who didn’t look like a quality opponent that night). If these were the rankings for drawing power then it would be understandable because for some reason people still want to see him, but as a fighter he is past his time.

He looked awful against Evans and the way Evans was fighting he should have been able to clean him up. What he did five years ago should have no bearing on his ranking today, and his recent fights have been pathetic. The only person he has looked good against was Shamrock, and let’s be honest, Shamrock ain’t quite the cream of the crop anymore. Who has this guy beaten to earn a Top 5 berth?

[quote comment="107332"]Once and for all St. Pierre cannot possibly be ranked ahead of Matt Hughes … In the real world, Hughes is lined up for a title shot thus making him the real # 1 contender. On top of that, they have both beat each other once, and lost to each other once. I see no argument on how St. Pierre cant be # 1 … Based on talent ? Athleticism ?

ohhhhh he is #1 in all of you eyes because he was a dumb shit to “underestimate” an opponent. How is that even possible ? In a fight, at least on my block, you usually know before the other guy wants to hurt you … right ?

Matt Hughes 43-5 the greatest welterweight of all time PERIOD. Just call it how it is based on the facts.

-Defeated Carlos Newton twice when he was tough
-Defeated Sean Sherk
-Defeated Frank Trigg twice when he was tough
-Defeated BJ Penn
-Defeated GSP
-Defeated Royce Gracie (60 years old or not if you enter the octagon you’re a real man)
-Defeated Joe Riggs when he had credibility[/quote]

You cant see why GSP is ranked higher then Hughes hhmmmmmmmmmm well lets see now,they did fight twice,maby because in their most recent fight GSP gave hughes a total and absolute beating,could that be the reason “cuts”?

GSP is way better then Hughes and no one can argue that,you have to go by the last time they fought and GSP proper destroyed Hughes,it was an outstanding performance.

Thanks for the responses Gord, some nice points but I still have to say Matt Hughes is the real deal. People like to kick a guy when he is down, and by that I mean once you lose a title, you lose the fans and followers you had i.e. Rich Franklin, Matt Hughes, Andre Arvlovski.

Hughes has one more solid run in him, so long as he stays and 170 and doesnt eat a bowl of courage and follow it up with getting KTFO by Anderson Silva.

As far as Josh Koscheck goes, hey everyone has flaws, yeah sure he doesnt keep his chin down as much as a boxer should and he is perfect on the ground, but he is right there in terms of A level talent.

GSP will be his biggest test and all he needs to do is win 2 of 3 rounds for a decsision. Think about that. I dont not see a knockout in this fight cut it anyway you want. Enjoy the 15 minutes of action.

correction ISN’T

[quote post="2765"]Why should Shogun be number one,yeah he was great in pride but a large percentage of his fights he has won doing things that are illegal in the UFC,lets see how he does in the octagon with UFC rules before we start jumping to conclusions.[/quote]

Yes, but he usually get the opponent to the ground by strikes while standing. When he hits people with any part of hie body, opponents tend to go down. So instead of socker kicking thier faces, he will just have to GnP for the win. He will be able to mount most opponents rather easily once they fall to the ground from s strike – he has top notch BJJ. Or instead of GnP’ing, he can simply stand over his opponent and drop bombs and hammer fists till the ref tackles him.

[quote post="2765"]Oh, come on! How can you possibly put Tito in the top 5? The guy hasn’t beat a quality opponent in years except for Evans (who didn’t look like a quality opponent that night). [/quote]

Tito did not beat Evans when they fought. It was a draw. Hopefully it was some sort of typo and not that your short term memory is on the decline…

Why should Shogun be number one,yeah he was great in pride but a large percentage of his fights he has won doing things that are illegal in the UFC,lets see how he does in the octagon with UFC rules before we start jumping to conclusions.
Im starting to get the impresion that alot of you Shogun nuthuggers had never seen someone kicked or stomped in the head before you saw shogun so now you think he is unstopable,it looked vicious to you so you thought “I wish I could do that to Biff(the American bully)”.
I have been watching Shoguns fights over and over and yes he is a great fighter,but to be honest I cant see what makes you so sure he is just gonna destroy the UFC LH division,infact I am more conserned he is gonna be a disapointment on his first fight.

He already has two victories from Pride events held in america, using american rules. A sub win over randleman and a ko victory over overeem, both of which he looked good. I personally beleive he will be champ, he is definetly in rampages head. Lastly, im not going to comment on your “nuthugger”" shit, you need to be a bit more respectfull.

I agree with the things said about Hughes. I really don’t belive he deserves another shot so soon. His last match went to decision? If you take a couple things into consideration there is little to make an argumetn with (except when he dominated, which was quite a long time ago). Here are the things that I take into consideration:
1. His last fight against BJ Penn he should have/would have lost but Penn got hurt. Penn DOMINATED the first 2 rounds. Not to take the win away from Hughes, but he definitley didn’t dominate like he dominated his previous opponents.
2. He got OWNED by GSP. Period. NO if ands or butts.
3. (And probs the most importnant thing) If you look at the event in which hughes and franklin both had their comeback fights, Franklin clearly had the eye of the tiger. And Hughes didn’t seem to have that killer instinct. To me it was a lackluster fight to which he gave a very uninspired performance. After watching Franklin dominate I was really dissapointed in Hughes’ performance.

After looking at those fights, which I think were his last three (not sure) you can’t say that he is better than GSP. No way. GSP is coming off 1 bad fight. Hughes, in my opinion is coming of 3. But then again, that is just my opinion.

And I agree, where the hell is AA? By far my fav fighter, and he is kinda fallen off the map after the last ‘free’ event. I also think he will again hold the belt, he is such a beast.

Who ever mentioned Melvin Guillard before, when I watch this guy fight, He looks like one bad mofo, quik, strong but, reckless and leaves himself to open to get caught into a submission

[quote comment="107852"]I agree with the things said about Hughes. I really don’t belive he deserves another shot so soon. His last match went to decision? If you take a couple things into consideration there is little to make an argumetn with (except when he dominated, which was quite a long time ago). Here are the things that I take into consideration:
1. His last fight against BJ Penn he should have/would have lost but Penn got hurt. Penn DOMINATED the first 2 rounds. Not to take the win away from Hughes, but he definitley didn’t dominate like he dominated his previous opponents.
2. He got OWNED by GSP. Period. NO if ands or butts.
3. (And probs the most importnant thing) If you look at the event in which hughes and franklin both had their comeback fights, Franklin clearly had the eye of the tiger. And Hughes didn’t seem to have that killer instinct. To me it was a lackluster fight to which he gave a very uninspired performance. After watching Franklin dominate I was really dissapointed in Hughes’ performance.

After looking at those fights, which I think were his last three (not sure) you can’t say that he is better than GSP. No way. GSP is coming off 1 bad fight. Hughes, in my opinion is coming of 3. But then again, that is just my opinion.

And I agree, where the hell is AA? By far my fav fighter, and he is kinda fallen off the map after the last ‘free’ event. I also think he will again hold the belt, he is such a beast.[/quote]

If Hughes dont deserve a title shot then who does. who should serra be fighting next.. Not Kos he fight was more boring than Hughes win over Lytle, you cant just give GSP another title shot when he got his ass handed to him by a B level fighter in Matt Serra. Hughes is the only real choice. he lost one fight.

I think anyone who hasnt fought in the UFC yet, shouldnt even be ranked. It doesnt matter who you fought or how skilled you are, there are alot of other fighters who have fought more that arent even ranked, probably due to who theyve fought or their win/loss record. Rank everyone according to their last 3-5 fights that would be a bit more accurate. As far as the lw belt is concerned, I think they should take the two top contenders and have them fight for the belt, instead of just giving it to someone. That is if they decide to strip Sherk of the belt, but hey, all of this is just my opinion.

I can’t believe Karo is ranked in the top 5!!? He dosen’t deserve it!!!!

My opinion on: HEAVYWEIGHTS

1) Pedor Emelieneko- Pride Champion/Regarded POUND FOR POUND BEST FIGHTER ALIVE-MMA AND BOXING. They say right now if he fought Mike Tyson in his Prime Pedor would win easily.

2) Randy Coture- UFC Champion

3) Gabriel Gonzaga

4) Antonio M. Nuegueira- Beat Mirko, Werdum, Henderson, Barnett, Herring, etc.

5) Mirko Filipovic- Lost to Gonzaga, Pedor of course….

6) Andre Arlovski-Should of dominated Sylvia in both rematches. Looked boring against Werdum.

7) Fabricio Werdum- Only because he’s beaten Gonzaga and made Nuegueira look like a chicken shit winning a decision

Josh Barnett- Still having alot of success in Japan

9)Pual Buentello- Can knock out anybody given the chance

10)Alexander Emelieneko- Cro Cop whooped him but he’s dangerous

11)Heith Herring- He’s lost twice in the UFC already

12) Tim Sylivia- He’ sucks period. He’s so slow all he does is throw a slow jab and a straight right.
He needs to retire.

Other mentions: Cabbage, Mark Hunt ( But he can’t make weight for the UFC ) Fujita, James Thompson,

[quote comment="110278"]I can’t believe Karo is ranked in the top 5!!? He dosen’t deserve it!!!!

My opinion on: HEAVYWEIGHTS

1) Pedor Emelieneko- Pride Champion/Regarded POUND FOR POUND BEST FIGHTER ALIVE-MMA AND BOXING. They say right now if he fought Mike Tyson in his Prime Pedor would win easily.

2) Randy Coture- UFC Champion

3) Gabriel Gonzaga

4) Antonio M. Nuegueira- Beat Mirko, Werdum, Henderson, Barnett, Herring, etc.

5) Mirko Filipovic- Lost to Gonzaga, Pedor of course….

6) Andre Arlovski-Should of dominated Sylvia in both rematches. Looked boring against Werdum.

7) Fabricio Werdum- Only because he’s beaten Gonzaga and made Nuegueira look like a chicken shit winning a decision

Josh Barnett- Still having alot of success in Japan

9)Pual Buentello- Can knock out anybody given the chance

10)Alexander Emelieneko- Cro Cop whooped him but he’s dangerous

11)Heith Herring- He’s lost twice in the UFC already

12) Tim Sylivia- He’ sucks period. He’s so slow all he does is throw a slow jab and a straight right.
He needs to retire.

Other mentions: Cabbage, Mark Hunt ( But he can’t make weight for the UFC ) Fujita, James Thompson,[/quote]

have these guys arent even in the ufc, this is about ufc fighters, wat r u smokin.

My Picks……

Heavy.(not including champs, or anyone who isnt in the UFC)
1.Gabrial Gonzaga
2.Andre Arlovski
3.Minotauro Nogieura
4.Brandon Vera
5.Jake O’Brian (cro cop needs a win to convince me)

Light-Heavy.
1.Dan Henderson( hes not on the roster, but is the #1 cont.)
2.Mauricio Rua( if he loses, hes off my list)
3.Lyoto Machida
4.Micheal Bisbing( like it or not)
5.Rashad Evans(almost had tito, plus beaten jardine and bonnar)

Middlewieght.
1.Rich Franklin
2.Martin Kampmann(he had a shot of beating franklin)
3.Terry Martin
4.Kendall Grove
5.Thales Leites( toss up with ed herman)
(very weak division)

welterwieght.
1.Matt Hughes(like it or not, hes the #1 cont.)
2.Josh Koscheck
3.Georges St. Pierre( just lost)
4.Jon fitch(has beaten better people than Karo, LATELY)
5.Karo Parysian( Diego just lost also)

Lightwieght.
1.BJ Penn
2.Joe Stevenson
3.Din Thomas
4.Spencer Fisher/Kenny Florian(tie)
5. Roger Huerta( he hasnt been tested yet)

Like them or hate them, those are my picks, and i base it on recent win streaks and the people they have beaten.

PS-I feel BJ Penn Doesnt Deserve a LIGHTWIEGHT shot until he wins one or two more. But he sells tickets so thats the way it is i geuss.

[quote comment="110365"][quote comment="110278"]I can’t believe Karo is ranked in the top 5!!? He dosen’t deserve it!!!!

My opinion on: HEAVYWEIGHTS

1) Pedor Emelieneko- Pride Champion/Regarded POUND FOR POUND BEST FIGHTER ALIVE-MMA AND BOXING. They say right now if he fought Mike Tyson in his Prime Pedor would win easily.

2) Randy Coture- UFC Champion

3) Gabriel Gonzaga

4) Antonio M. Nuegueira- Beat Mirko, Werdum, Henderson, Barnett, Herring, etc.

5) Mirko Filipovic- Lost to Gonzaga, Pedor of course….

6) Andre Arlovski-Should of dominated Sylvia in both rematches. Looked boring against Werdum.

7) Fabricio Werdum- Only because he’s beaten Gonzaga and made Nuegueira look like a chicken shit winning a decision

Josh Barnett- Still having alot of success in Japan

9)Pual Buentello- Can knock out anybody given the chance

10)Alexander Emelieneko- Cro Cop whooped him but he’s dangerous

11)Heith Herring- He’s lost twice in the UFC already

12) Tim Sylivia- He’ sucks period. He’s so slow all he does is throw a slow jab and a straight right.
He needs to retire.

Other mentions: Cabbage, Mark Hunt ( But he can’t make weight for the UFC ) Fujita, James Thompson,[/quote]

have these guys arent even in the ufc, this is about ufc fighters, wat r u smokin.[/quote]

Speaking of MMA Fighters in General guy… And in case you didn’t know the UFC bought/merged with Pride so i don’t see the difference anymore in refering to who’s better this guy from pride or this guy from the ufc eventually all the top fighters from Pride are coming to the UFC. So don’t get all mad cuz most of these Pride Heavyweights are better than the UFC heavyweights……

I doubt your smoking anything but your probably kissing some ass……

Anderson Silva (Champion) undefeated in 4 UFC fights, fighting Franklin at UFC 77
19-4-0 6′ 0″ 185

1.Rich Franklin won last 2 fights; fighting Anderson Silva at UFC 77
24-2-0 6′ 1″ 185

2.Yushin Okami lost to Rich Franklin at UFC 72
21-4-0 6′ 2″ 185

3. Nate Marquardt lost title fight against Anderson Silva at UFC 73
28-7-1 6′ 0″ 185

4.Terry Martin won last 2 fights; fighting Chris Leban at upcoming fight night 18-2-0 5′ 8″ 185
(don’t like puting martin here but no one else deserves it,the leabn fight dosen’t do him justice because i don’t have leban in even the top 10)

5. Martin (the Hitman) Kampmann undefeated in 3 UFC fights, last win at UFC 68
12-1-0 6′ 0″ 185
(where is this guy? Is he still injured,no rummors that i’ve herd about any upcoming fights)

6.Mike Swick lost to Yushin Okami at UFC 69, fighting Goulet at fight night
10-2-0 6′ 1″ 185
Has beaten Louiseau but wasn’t that impressive aginst okami,needs a big win

6.Jason (the Athlete) Macdonald beat Rory Singer at UFC 72
20-8-0 6′ 3″ 185
(can beat the little guys but needs a top 10 win)

7.Kendall Grove undefeated in 3 UFC fights, fighting Patrick Cote at UFC 74
10-3-0 6′ 6″ 185
(win over cote would put a bigger name under his belt)

8. Thales Leites won last 2 fights; most recently beat Floyd Sword at TUF finale
11-1-0 6′ 1″ 185 (looked amazing on the ground)

9. Ed Herman won last 2 fights; beat Scott Smith at UFC 72
15-4-0 6′ 2″ 185 (nice win)

10.Drew Mcfedries won at fight night, fighting Marvin Eastman at UFC 77
6-2-0 6′ 0″ 185 (knockout power!)

[quote comment="110370"]My Picks……

Heavy.(not including champs, or anyone who isnt in the UFC)
1.Gabrial Gonzaga
2.Andre Arlovski
3.Minotauro Nogieura
4.Brandon Vera
5.Jake O’Brian (cro cop needs a win to convince me)

Light-Heavy.
1.Dan Henderson( hes not on the roster, but is the #1 cont.)
2.Mauricio Rua( if he loses, hes off my list)
3.Lyoto Machida
4.Micheal Bisbing( like it or not)
5.Rashad Evans(almost had tito, plus beaten jardine and bonnar)

Middlewieght.
1.Rich Franklin
2.Martin Kampmann(he had a shot of beating franklin)
3.Terry Martin
4.Kendall Grove
5.Thales Leites( toss up with ed herman)
(very weak division)

welterwieght.
1.Matt Hughes(like it or not, hes the #1 cont.)
2.Josh Koscheck
3.Georges St. Pierre( just lost)
4.Jon fitch(has beaten better people than Karo, LATELY)
5.Karo Parysian( Diego just lost also)

Lightwieght.
1.BJ Penn
2.Joe Stevenson
3.Din Thomas
4.Spencer Fisher/Kenny Florian(tie)
5. Roger Huerta( he hasnt been tested yet)

Like them or hate them, those are my picks, and i base it on recent win streaks and the people they have beaten.

PS-I feel BJ Penn Doesnt Deserve a LIGHTWIEGHT shot until he wins one or two more. But he sells tickets so thats the way it is i geuss.[/quote]

How is Chuck Liddell not on the LHW contenders list but you have Micheal Bisping and Rashad Evans… do you seriously think that they should be ranked ahead of Chuck Liddell?

how the hell does bj win one fight and holy shit he gets a title fight ,has fisher had one yet?

Where’s Fisher? The guy still has alittle to prove but I fell he should be on the list before Huerta. What a great fight that would be.

Huerta should not even be on there. How did that happen? How did Huerta sway so many to believe he is up there? What in the FFFFFFF has he done?

[quote post="2765"]How is Chuck Liddell not on the LHW contenders list but you have Micheal Bisping and Rashad Evans… do you seriously think that they should be ranked ahead of Chuck Liddell? [/quote]
Some people think it’s a favorite fighters list, rather than ranking based on merit of their performance.

Heavyweight: Randy “The Natural” Couture
1. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
2. Gabriel Gonzaga
3. Mirko “Cro Cop” Filipovic
4. Andrei “The Pitbull” Arlovski
5. Brandon Vera

Light heavyweight: Quinton “Rampage” Jackson
1. Mauricio “Shogun” Rua
2. Chuck “The Iceman” Liddell
3. Dan Henderson
4. Tito “The Huntington Beach Bad Boy” Ortiz
5. Forrest Griffen

Middleweight: Anderson “The Spider” Silva
1. Rich “Ace” Franklin
2. Yushin Okami
3. Nathan Marquardt
4. Jason MacDonald
5. Thales Leites

Welterweight: Matt “The Terror” Serra
1. Georges “Rush” St. Pierre
2. Matt Hughes
3. Karo Parisyan
4. Diego “Nightmare” Sanchez
5. Jon Fitch

Lightweight: Sean “The Muscle Shark” Sherk
1. BJ Penn
2. Joe Stevenson
3. Roger Huerta
4. Kenny Florian
5. Hermes Franca

Koscheck in the top five he did nothing to bet deigo what a boring fight they both should be out of the top five along with tito, the best pounp for pound fighter “THE SPIDER” love the ace but wish he was champ but the spider is the man. I would like to see Penn VS Florian get the juice out of competive sports next thing we will hear will be Sherk killed his wife and kid come on guys I love mma we don’t need a bad wrap

[quote comment="110370"]My Picks……

Heavy.(not including champs, or anyone who isnt in the UFC)
1.Gabrial Gonzaga
2.Andre Arlovski
3.Minotauro Nogieura
4.Brandon Vera
5.Jake O’Brian (cro cop needs a win to convince me)

Light-Heavy.
1.Dan Henderson( hes not on the roster, but is the #1 cont.)
2.Mauricio Rua( if he loses, hes off my list)
3.Lyoto Machida
4.Micheal Bisbing( like it or not)
5.Rashad Evans(almost had tito, plus beaten jardine and bonnar)

Middlewieght.
1.Rich Franklin
2.Martin Kampmann(he had a shot of beating franklin)
3.Terry Martin
4.Kendall Grove
5.Thales Leites( toss up with ed herman)
(very weak division)

welterwieght.
1.Matt Hughes(like it or not, hes the #1 cont.)
2.Josh Koscheck
3.Georges St. Pierre( just lost)
4.Jon fitch(has beaten better people than Karo, LATELY)
5.Karo Parysian( Diego just lost also)

Lightwieght.
1.BJ Penn
2.Joe Stevenson
3.Din Thomas
4.Spencer Fisher/Kenny Florian(tie)
5. Roger Huerta( he hasnt been tested yet)

Like them or hate them, those are my picks, and i base it on recent win streaks and the people they have beaten.

PS-I feel BJ Penn Doesnt Deserve a LIGHTWIEGHT shot until he wins one or two more. But he sells tickets so thats the way it is i geuss.[/quote]

these are the worst rankings ever!!!!! i can’t even take some of the stuff your saying seriously! idek know where to start.

Here’s a middleweight who is not in the UFC I would like to toss out there: Denis Kang. His name came up in a thread on this board not long ago and some of his nut huggers were rattling on about him and I said he ain’t shiiite until he fights real competition. But I actually saw the guy on a best of Pride show tonight and he definitely looks pretty awesome. He hits hard and can choke a brutha out. I’m not going to go on about him here but I think we’ll be seeing him ranked in the UFC soon. Leave it at that.

If UFC signs Gomi, hands downs he’s destroying the UFC Lightweight divison. Shogun is gonna be UFC Light-Heavyweight Champ. After Rampage beats Hendo, Shogun is gonna beat Rampage. Couture is still gonna be the HW champ until whenever Fedor goes to the octagon. Then Couture loses by decision or doctor stoppage. Until then nobody’s beating Randy

Yo UFCmania, why don’t you guys do a profile on each of these ranked fighters? like their bout history, where they’re currently training, and etc. It’d be sweet. It’ll help to get our debates on your site more educated, and less ridiculous.

These rankings get crazier and crazier but all in all pretty good. How is Karo 3rd and Fitch 5th with Diego not in the top 5 with only 1 dec loss to Koscheck. Kos should be 5th if ranked at all. Fitch shouldnt even make the top 5 yet. the real 5th is prob Karo.

jv wanderlia wil not beat liddell he will get knouctout nothin agaist sivlia but he got knouctout out twice in his last two fights and havent fought in like forever u just cant come back from somethin ike that and fight and beat chuck liddell who has been active forever win or lose and nobody gives henderson anough respeact for god sakes he has two bets and knouctout sivlia now shougun i give him much respect not as nmuch as jv gives him he is a great fighter but there’s alwas someone who can beat u and that someone is in the ufc and when he fought rampage he was nowere near 100% and he had probems with fighters that were stronger then him such as radlemen until the leg lock he was gettin man hadle and dont get me started on how mark coleman was throwin him around and alot of people dont remember how he got submitted by babulu yes its true ook it up and if gonzaga beats randy courture wicht i hope doesnt happen but if it does i think gonzaga will not lose for a long time to cum and i do think he will beat fedor only because when fedors gets tooken down he submittes his oponent but gonzaga jui jit sui is to good and he has proven how good his stand up is and he is huge so i think the ufc is gona have an unstopable champion but brandon who love watchen fight wil soon lose !!!!!!!! in one of his next 2 fights if there strong opponents and bj penn wil be the 155 pound champ only if his cardio is right we all no how good sherk cardio is and he should have been the 170 champion again already at matt hughes and bj penn second fight he was winning and hughes had no answere up until he got tired no i think i was the maddest person on earth because he is so talented but he doesnt train hard enough i mean for god sakes the ufc and gave him 2 chances because right before his title shot he lost now i dont no to many fighters that lose and get a tilte shot wtf and that was so unfair to gsp and after al dat he showed up to da fight unprepared

HW: Crocop’s too high, Arlovski’s too low. Fedor will soon rule this division as he has Pride.
LW: Boot Tito who barely eeked his last 2 decisions, and get V. Silva in there.
MW: I dont know about a couple of these…there’s a lot of talent out there not in the ufc yet, and some that are..& is it fair to leave Henderson out since he rocks at that weight & has the pride belt?
WW: I thought BJ was moving back up??? Oh well, another division that has a lot of tough uprising stars. Yeah, Diego got screwed..we’ll see after the fitch fight.
LW: Gomi. Not a huge J. Stevenson fan..think he’s ranked too high with all the talent in this division. It’ll all sort out in the next year or so.
FW: Bring it in! Those little guys can scrap and never tire. The make the LW’s look slow!!!
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Henderson hasnt fought in the ufc for a loooong time, so to rank him opens the door for others…open it up.

So…bisbing and rashad can beat chuck?? hmmm, yeah…no! stevenson and fisher…not sold yet. otherwise, i like your re-arranging of the rankings.

[quote comment="118155"][quote comment="110370"]My Picks……

Heavy.(not including champs, or anyone who isnt in the UFC)
1.Gabrial Gonzaga
2.Andre Arlovski
3.Minotauro Nogieura
4.Brandon Vera
5.Jake O’Brian (cro cop needs a win to convince me)

Light-Heavy.
1.Dan Henderson( hes not on the roster, but is the #1 cont.)
2.Mauricio Rua( if he loses, hes off my list)
3.Lyoto Machida
4.Micheal Bisbing( like it or not)
5.Rashad Evans(almost had tito, plus beaten jardine and bonnar)

Middlewieght.
1.Rich Franklin
2.Martin Kampmann(he had a shot of beating franklin)
3.Terry Martin
4.Kendall Grove
5.Thales Leites( toss up with ed herman)
(very weak division)

welterwieght.
1.Matt Hughes(like it or not, hes the #1 cont.)
2.Josh Koscheck
3.Georges St. Pierre( just lost)
4.Jon fitch(has beaten better people than Karo, LATELY)
5.Karo Parysian( Diego just lost also)

Lightwieght.
1.BJ Penn
2.Joe Stevenson
3.Din Thomas
4.Spencer Fisher/Kenny Florian(tie)
5. Roger Huerta( he hasnt been tested yet)

Like them or hate them, those are my picks, and i base it on recent win streaks and the people they have beaten.

PS-I feel BJ Penn Doesnt Deserve a LIGHTWIEGHT shot until he wins one or two more. But he sells tickets so thats the way it is i geuss.[/quote]

these are the worst rankings ever!!!!! i can’t even take some of the stuff your saying seriously! idek know where to start.[/quote]

I think that whoever does your rankings is on DRUGS.

Light heavyweight no 1 is Dan Henderson
no 2 is Wanderlei Silva (signed Friday UFC)
no 3 is Quinton Jackson (you will see)
no 4 is Chuck Liddell
no 5 is Shogun Rua

Take Hermes Franca off the top 5 list because it will be a LONG time before we see him again and Din Thomas belongs in that Spot. UFCMANIA Make it SO!!!!!!!

[quote comment="106764"]Diego Sanchez should be up there. The guy loses one fight, inwhich he was obviously not himself, and everyone hates him. Nogueira should be ahead of Gonzaga[/quote]
I totally agree with you. I was blown away by Diego’s losing fight HOWEVER, that was just one fight. I am not giving up on him at all, and think he should have been listed.

[quote comment="106776"]Yeah, the fact that Karo is in the top 5 and Diego isn’t is laughable. Everything else looks good. To the people ready to crown Shogun king, lets see him beat a couple more names first. He may indeed be the best, but he has far from proved it. Top 5? Hell yeah. No 1? Hell no.[/quote]
Tim is right………….Diego not being listed is CRAP. The man is a talent. I was shocked at his last fight, but hey everyone has a bad day now and then. I look to see Diego come back stronger than ever after the loss. He should have been listed. I think all these rankings are a little whacked this time

The latest rankings are good, though in the lightweight division, it should have Griffin, Guida, and/or Edgar. Remove Florian, Franca. Karo in the 3 at welterweight and Martin in the 3 in middleweight are also questionable.

bullshit! are you fucking kidding me. does anyone in there right mind think Bisping won the fight? that was absolutely pathetic and i lost a lot of respect for ufc.

NEED TO BE UPDATED DUDES

HEAVYWEIGHT (265-205)

1.Randy Couture
2.Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
3.Andrei Arlovski
4.Brandon Vera
5.Tim Silvia
6.Gabriel Gonzaga
7.Chieck Kongo
8.Mirko Filipovic
9.Fabricio Werdum
10.Frank Mir

LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT (205-185)

1.Quinton Jackson
2.Mauricio Rua
3.Chuck Liddell
4.Dan Henderson
5.Wanderlei Silva
6.Lyoto Machida
7.Rashad Evans
8.Kazuhiro Nakamura
9.Tito Ortiz
10.Houston Alexander

MIDDLEWEIGHT (185-170)

1.Anderson Silva
2.Rich Franklin
3.Yushin Okami
4.Nate Marquardt
5.Martin Kampmann
6.Thales Leites
7.Dean Lister
8.Jason MacDonald
9.Terry Martin
10.Drew McFedries

WELTERWEIGHT (170-155)

1.Matt Serra
2.Georges St. Pierre
3.Matt Hughes
4.Jon Fitch
5.Karo Parisyan
6.Josh Koscheck
7.Diego Sanchez
8.Hayato Sakurai
9.Mike Swick
10.Josh Burkman

LIGHTWEIGHT (155-145)

1.Sean Sherk
2.B.J. Penn
3.Joe Stevenson
4.Kenny Florian
5.Roger Huerta
6.Hermes Franca
7.Spencer Fisher
8.Din Thomas
9.Clay Guida
10.Marcus Aurelio

ufcmania needs to update after every show!!!!!!!!!!

MARTIN KAMPMANN SUCKS!! Y DO PPL THINK HES GOOD? MCFEDRIES WAS BEATIN HIS ASS B4 HE TOOK HIM DOWN…HE SUCKS! GET OVER IT!

Yeah, I thought Bisping won the fight, a close one, but he won.