Former PRIDE FC Middleweight Champion Wanderlei Silva denies recent statements from UFC President Dana White that he didn’t want to fight Chuck Liddell in an article just posted on MMAWeekly.com — the contents for which was taken from an interview the Brazilian posted on his official Web site.
“The Axe Murderer,” it seems, simply didn’t want to fight him at UFC 76 in September.
Here’s the latest:
“I never said that I wouldn’t fight Chuck. I’ve wanted this fight for a long time. I received a contract with two options, I could fight in September or November. I have chosed to make this fight in November. I was the first to want this fight, but they kept avoiding this fight. Now there’s a lot of people saying that I have ducked Chuck. This is not true.”
According to Silva, timing was the issue that prevented him from taking the fight in September. He’s moving to the United States in a few weeks and wouldn’t be able to put in the amount of training necessary to be at his best.
Since news of this fight falling a part emerged just a few days ago, the UFC has pinned the blame on Silva. Not surprising, Silva is not going to sit idle and be the scapegoat.
Because why would one of the most punishing fighters in the history of the sport — a man who has competed against the elite for years — turn down a big payday and refuse to fight?
It seems he didn’t.
Then again, it appears that there are more than likely three sides to this story: The UFCs, Silva’s and the absolute truth.
Regardless, Silva goes on to say that he is still down to fight Chuck in November if, of course, Liddell doesn’t “hide” from the showdown.
Here’s a snip:
“I want to fight chuck in November and make a huge show, and make it the biggest show ever…I have no doubts it’s the most important fight of my life. I know Chuck is a great name in the U.S., we’ll do a great fight. I think I must be in my best shape, so I want this time to train better to be in my bets shape ever. This fight is on, if he Chuck doesn’t hide behind this mess.”
Sounds like fightin’ words to me. It also sounds like this monster clash isn’t “dead forever” — at least from Silva’s perspective.
Finally, it appears that there is a solution within reach to this mess: Both fighters want to throwdown in November (For the latest on Liddell click here).
Make it happen, please, Dana White.
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How did almost everyone knew that Dana was pulling all the “Wanderlei called it off” allegations out of his arse?
I hope he’ll make the fight happen under public pressure as I cannot think of any fight that’s more promising on paper. Yes, as I CroCop nuthugger I said it: It’s not CC-Fedor II, Liddell-Chuck is probably the biggest fight MMA ever saw if it goes down. This fight might be what could elevate the sport to a new level in the public eye as it would be promoted like a muthaf*cker.
I KNEW IT!! Dana and Chuck are such plugs
It is times that this that Dana White really pisses me off. Sometimes I think he is really quick to make decisions and if he does not get his “way” than he cries like a baby and throws everything out the door. The UFC fans know that the whole pride thing is kind of crazy but seriously, make this happen whether it is September or November, it does not matter. If Silva feels he needs the time to train, give it to him. I want to see the best from both fighters.
“”Liddell-Chuck is probably the biggest fight MMA ever saw”"
What is he fighting himself how would that look on his record win or loss or maybe it would be a draw since its both a win and a loss no matter what lol. Just kidding i know what ya mean and i agree. But even though Wandy is like a MMA god in pride alot of the new TUF UFC fans might not be to keen to who he is and his accomplishments. But i think its safe to say that probably wont be a problem exspecially with the PR the UFC has.
They should title the “super fight,” “UFC vs. Pride” and add some other fighters, maybe a fight at each division.
HW - AA vs. CroCop
LH - Chuck vs. Silva
MW - Franklin vs. Henderson
Thoughts?
[quote comment=”104070″]”"Liddell-Chuck is probably the biggest fight MMA ever saw”"
What is he fighting himself how would that look on his record win or loss or maybe it would be a draw since its both a win and a loss no matter what lol. Just kidding i know what ya mean and i agree. But even though Wandy is like a MMA god in pride alot of the new TUF UFC fans might not be to keen to who he is and his accomplishments. But i think its safe to say that probably wont be a problem exspecially with the PR the UFC has.[/quote]
Haha, stupid typo.
But I think they have excellent footage on both fighters including the staredown they both had 2 times now and it will make excellent promotional clips to get fans excited about it. They have 3 events before the fight, so plenty of time to promote it and make fans excited about it, regardless if hardcore mma fan or TUF audience.
The big new here is that Silva is moving to the US. This is great. I assume he would be moving to Vegas. Why would he move here if not to fight?
I am not convinced that Dana White is the most polished executive in the world or the most thought out but he could have done this on purpose to get just such a statement out of Silva.
[quote post=”2736″]How did almost everyone knew that Dana was pulling all the “Wanderlei called it off” allegations out of his arse?[/quote]
Because Dana has to protect his boy Chuck.
uh.. i don’t know if mania will kill me for this but i was on ufcjunkie.com… and their newest article is chuck vs. jardine… just thought i’d put it out there
Chucky is fighting Jardine. Dana keeps giving him the easy fights. Damn atleast give him shogun!!
[quote post=”2736″]he could have done this on purpose to get just such a statement out of Silva.[/quote]
I also think he did it to possibly hype a fight down the road. It wouldn’t surprise me one bit — when has an article ever been posted on UFC.com about a rumored fight that fell through. I can’t think of it. All this controversy and publicity just adds even more to the marketibilty of this fight:
UFC 78: Finally
[quote post=”2736″]They should title the “super fight,” “UFC vs. Pride” and add some other fighters, maybe a fight at each division.
HW - AA vs. CroCop
LH - Chuck vs. Silva
MW - Franklin vs. Henderson
Thoughts?[/quote]
This will never happen because UFC will never put these 3 great fights into 1 fight card. Rather, they would just spread them out over 3 different events. Sometimes, Some of the things UFC does really annoy me.
Im really surprised that Dana talks as much shit on fighters as he does. Especially against Tito becuase thats his own fighter. I know Tito can be a moron, but for the president of a company to tell anyone who will listen is unprofessional. I really wish the boxing match wouldve happened. It doesnt make sense for Dana to say that its never gonna happen if Wandi agreed to Nov instead of Sept. Why wouldnt Dana just announce it as a Nov Match. Someones lying.
Well for Chuck to fight in November he would have to win against Jardine in Spetember…..I just heard about this fight like 5 mins ago
Actually its good for Chuck that he lost his belt, now he can fight more than 2 times a year, and you know its always entertaining to watch Chuck fight, cause any moment someone is going to get KOed. Chuck should fight at the next 4 UFC events, starting UFC 76(Vera), 77(Jardine/Griffin), 78(Silva), and 79(Rampage/Hendo). I bet all those 4 UFC events will be sold out, cause Chuck is my Boyee..
Dana & Chuck Chuck & Dana I don’t know what to say about these two their like Peanut butter & Jelly. Which reminded me Dana White is more like Don King from HBO Boxing but Dana is more of a blabber mouth for stating such allegations.
Why not just move Chuck’s fight to November? I don’t need to see him fight so badly that I can’t wait another couple months for a far more worthy match.
Why can’t Dana White just say that fight will be put off until November instead of acting like the fight is not going to happen. He makes Silva look like a pussy and Chuck and himslef look like they came out on top. The politics of the UFC is really starting to annoy me. Also I just read that Chuck is going to fight Keith Jardine in Sept……uhhhh….why???? Maybe because Jardine’s chin was just exposed by Houston Alexander????? Yeah that’s great, let’s use Jardine as a sacrificial lamb and have Chuck eat him alive since everyone forgot how bad ass he used to be…..please….this bull shit is making me sick. No one wants to see this fight at all. I want Chuck fighting the best around especially at this point in his career. Why take a step backwards……I might as well fight him.
Chuck by KO in the first round mark my words
Let Chuck fight Jardine, if Jardine wants to step into the octagon. Jardine is great on his feet, with heavy hands. Last fight he got caught, cause he was overconfident, just like Chuck was overconfident against Rampage.
Dana White has no credibility, he may as well be Don King’s half brother. Homo.
“We are so much better than boxing man I mean come on man we have all the skills combined in to one sport. Dont get me wrong man I love technical boxing, I love Pernell Whitiker and Winky Wright its awesome. But the thing about boxing is that its dying from their promotion, they dont think ahead in to the future and take care of their own fighters…..”
Oooops I guess someone forgot to mention to Dana that HYPOCRITE may come to mind.
lets face it everyone just wants to see wandy f*ck chuck. that guys been gagging for it for ages.
dana white has been acting like a turd…
he’s trying to paint bad pictures of any fighter who doesn’t do exactly as he wishes… or so it seems
[quote post=”2736″]just like Chuck was overconfident against Rampage.[/quote]
chuck wasnt over confident against rampage. if nething he looked a bit unnerved that the fight wasnt playing into his hands. he got beaten dude to a poorly thrown body shot the likes of which he has thrown a lot but neva got punnished for!
Chuck will KO Wandy when ever, where ever they fight.Wandy is an amazing fighter but his style is taylor made for Chuck.Did you see John Hacklemans face light up on that interview just after Chucks last fight when the guy said about fighting Wandy.He does exactly what Chuck wants and thats come out swinging and exchange.I am very confident for Chuck in this fight.
Wandy is gonna have to rethink his entire game if he wants to beat Chuck coz his usual style is not gonna work.
Why do you think that Dana and Chuck and his trainers have been so keen to have this fight,its because they know this is a great fight for Chuck.
[quote comment=”104120″]lets face it everyone just wants to see wandy f*ck chuck. that guys been gagging for it for ages.[/quote]
LMAO
Chuck takes this one then regains his title, against hendo.
[quote comment=”104125″]Chuck will KO Wandy when ever, where ever they fight.Wandy is an amazing fighter but his style is taylor made for Chuck.Did you see John Hacklemans face light up on that interview just after Chucks last fight when the guy said about fighting Wandy.He does exactly what Chuck wants and thats come out swinging and exchange.I am very confident for Chuck in this fight.
Wandy is gonna have to rethink his entire game if he wants to beat Chuck coz his usual style is not gonna work.
Why do you think that Dana and Chuck and his trainers have been so keen to have this fight,its because they know this is a great fight for Chuck.[/quote]
Chuck Liddell is a kickboxer, one who throws primarily punches. Sounds almost like Rampage’s style (except Chuck will be wise enough to avoid a clinch) who was outclassed by every Chute Boxe fighter he faced.
[quote comment=”104138″]Chuck takes this one then regains his title, against hendo.[/quote]
Chuck won’t ever see hendo - hendo’s out before chuck gets a shot. He’ll have to beat Rua or Jackson; not gonna happen.
Jardine must have learned his fight stance by playing ATARI boxing:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/89/Atari2600Boxing.png/200px-Atari2600Boxing.png
[quote comment=”104154″][quote comment=”104138″]Chuck takes this one then regains his title, against hendo.[/quote]
Chuck won’t ever see hendo - hendo’s out before chuck gets a shot. He’ll have to beat Rua or Jackson; not gonna happen.
Jardine must have learned his fight stance by playing ATARI boxing:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/89/Atari2600Boxing.png/200px-Atari2600Boxing.png/quote
lmao Atari boxing thats some funny Sh!t. I think he did.
[quote comment=”104154″][quote comment=”104138″]Chuck takes this one then regains his title, against hendo.[/quote]
Chuck won’t ever see hendo - hendo’s out before chuck gets a shot. He’ll have to beat Rua or Jackson; not gonna happen.
Jardine must have learned his fight stance by playing ATARI boxing:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/89/Atari2600Boxing.png/200px-Atari2600Boxing.png/quote
Hendo has the Hands to beat Rua or Page. Im not saying he will but he deffinitly could. We will see soon enough.
At least he didn’t say “I didn’t f*ck Chuck!” like his slip up in UFC 61!
maybe MTU is mad because he got taken off the top posters list?
[quote post=”2736″]dana white has been acting like a turd…
he’s trying to paint bad pictures of any fighter who doesn’t do exactly as he wishes… or so it seems [/quote]
It sounds like Silva is the one back peddling, He says he won’t be ready until nov. ,come on you don’t think 3 months is enough time to get ready for a fight. Most fighters that get KOed are back in the gym on monday begging for a fight to redeem themselves.
[quote post=”2736″]Chuck will KO Wandy when ever, where ever they fight.Wandy is an amazing fighter but his style is taylor made for Chuck.Did you see John Hacklemans face light up on that interview just after Chucks last fight when the guy said about fighting Wandy.He does exactly what Chuck wants and thats come out swinging and exchange.I am very confident for Chuck in this fight.
Wandy is gonna have to rethink his entire game if he wants to beat Chuck coz his usual style is not gonna work.
Why do you think that Dana and Chuck and his trainers have been so keen to have this fight,its because they know this is a great fight for Chuck. [/quote]
Exactly
Who is smarter the fool or the guy who follows the fool and puts up 1800 comments on their web forum about ufc?
Fuck this Dana White bullshit, what a fuckface. Hell even Chuck said he would fight in November. This would be the biggest PPV in history ever. Dana is just being a pussy and is scared Wand would beat Chuck’s ass. Wand sure did dispose of Rampage.
[quote comment=”104071″]They should title the “super fight,” “UFC vs. Pride” and add some other fighters, maybe a fight at each division.
HW - AA vs. CroCop
LH - Chuck vs. Silva
MW - Franklin vs. Henderson
Thoughts?[/quote]
Thats what im talking about!!!
[quote comment=”104121″]dana white has been acting like a turd…
he’s trying to paint bad pictures of any fighter who doesn’t do exactly as he wishes… or so it seems[/quote
Dana white doesn’t know how to put fights together. Fights that people will actually pay big bucks for. That was the whole point in buying PRIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There are some really exciting fights coming up, some rumored and some announced that are going to be great.
1. Chuck Lidell vs Kieth Jardine- I really hope this one happens
2. Diego Sanchez vs Jon Fitch- Also still hoping
3. Shogun vs Machida- I cant believe it if this one is true
4. St. Pierre vs Koscheck- Cant wait to see this either, hoping GSP takes it because if he wins it will be exciting, if Kos wins it will be by Lay and pray.
5. Dan henderson vs Rampage- Electric match up, I will be watching with no favorite in a Lightheavy title fight for the first time in a long time and will enjoy every minute of it as long as its not a draw!!!!
So I just have to give it up to the UFC for coming up with these five very evenly matched match ups. Everyone of these fights could go either way…
[quote comment=”104204″]There are some really exciting fights coming up, some rumored and some announced that are going to be great.
1. Chuck Lidell vs Kieth Jardine- I really hope this one happens
2. Diego Sanchez vs Jon Fitch- Also still hoping
3. Shogun vs Machida- I cant believe it if this one is true
4. St. Pierre vs Koscheck- Cant wait to see this either, hoping GSP takes it because if he wins it will be exciting, if Kos wins it will be by Lay and pray.
5. Dan henderson vs Rampage- Electric match up, I will be watching with no favorite in a Lightheavy title fight for the first time in a long time and will enjoy every minute of it as long as its not a draw!!!!
So I just have to give it up to the UFC for coming up with these five very evenly matched match ups. Everyone of these fights could go either way…[/quote]
Bisping vs Hamill?
1. Chuck Liddell vs Kieth Jardine…. Jardine doesn’t deserve to be fighting Chuck since having his ass handed to him by Houston Alexander.
2. Diego Sanchez vs Jon Fitch…… who cares!
3. Shogun vs Machida…. OH yes thats more like it
4. St. Pierre vs Koscheck….. 2 of the most conditioned MMA guys on the planet, will surely be a great fight.
5. Dan Henderson vs Rampage….. A beauty! EVERY MMA fan will want to see this and will have their hearts pounding.
One more time for the readers who may have overlloked this,
Dana White has no credibility, he may as well be Don King’s half brother. Homo.
“We are so much better than boxing man I mean come on man we have all the skills combined in to one sport. Dont get me wrong man I love technical boxing, I love Pernell Whitiker and Winky Wright its awesome. But the thing about boxing is that its dying from their promotion, they dont think ahead in to the future and take care of their own fighters…..”
Oooops I guess someone forgot to mention to Dana that HYPOCRITE may come to mind.
Dont play by Dana’s rules, and you get dropped from the big PPV’s, dropped from the UFC website, and have shit talked about you which probably isnt true a la Tito Ortiz. The fighters need to rally against him or have a small coalition made to protect them. Not a union but a coalition.
[quote comment=”104125″]Chuck will KO Wandy when ever, where ever they fight.Wandy is an amazing fighter but his style is taylor made for Chuck.Did you see John Hacklemans face light up on that interview just after Chucks last fight when the guy said about fighting Wandy.He does exactly what Chuck wants and thats come out swinging and exchange.I am very confident for Chuck in this fight.
Wandy is gonna have to rethink his entire game if he wants to beat Chuck coz his usual style is not gonna work.
Why do you think that Dana and Chuck and his trainers have been so keen to have this fight,its because they know this is a great fight for Chuck.[/quote]
I do see what you mean about Wand’s style being tailor made for Chuck. I think Chuck’s counter-punching style poses a real threat to Wand.
On the other hand, Wand has the ability to close the distance, apply constant pressure & keep it that way (QRJ anyone?). Wand has one-punch KO power in both hands, same as Chuck. Let’s not forget that Wand also has a ground-game which gives him an alternate route to victory if the stand-up doesnt go his way.
In my mind, this fight is as pure a 50/50 as we’ll see for some time. I’ll be leary in placing my bets come fight time.
[quote comment=”104138″]Chuck takes this one then regains his title, against hendo.[/quote]
Nathan, you really think Hendo will take Jackson’s title? I disagree but I’m curious to how you imagine that scenario playing out?
[quote comment=”104165″][quote comment=”104154″][quote comment=”104138″]Chuck takes this one then regains his title, against hendo.[/quote]
Chuck won’t ever see hendo - hendo’s out before chuck gets a shot. He’ll have to beat Rua or Jackson; not gonna happen.
Jardine must have learned his fight stance by playing ATARI boxing:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/89/Atari2600Boxing.png/200px-Atari2600Boxing.png/quote
Hendo has the Hands to beat Rua or Page. Im not saying he will but he deffinitly could. We will see soon enough.[/quote]
I see what you mean when comparing Hendo’s right hand to Rua who we have seen get his knee’s turned to spaghetti by solid punches in the past. Not to say Rampage is invincible (we all know he isnt) but I’ve never seen him get “rocked” by anyone’s punches. I know that a well timed punch in the right spot can put any man to sleep but it’s always been Muai Thai knee’s that test Page’s equalibrium.
So, to give Hendo a chance vs Page based on his “hands”, then are you saying that Hendo hits harder than Chuck, Wand or Rua? Because Page has shrugged-off their best shots & kept coming.
Personally, I think Hendo’s only chance against Page is to grind out a decision win.
Is this really anything new..?
Dana says things to protect his boy’s image… Wandi who fugging knows?
Ill believe the fight when I see it. But I think Couture might be the link to ths… appearently Couture is training with Wandi, they are gonna open some gyms together. Randy being Dana’s nuthugger… should be interesting.
Dana loves to start drama. It’s just a setup to pressure these fighters into wanting to fight when he decides. he fight will go down eventually. September, November, next year, the fight will happen. Wandy will fight in the UFC because it’s where he needs to be. He still has a couple strong make wave years in him. Silva will fall for the deceptive Dana tricks because Wandy has too much pride
[quote comment=”104332″][quote comment=”104165″][quote comment=”104154″][quote comment=”104138″]Chuck takes this one then regains his title, against hendo.[/quote]
Chuck won’t ever see hendo - hendo’s out before chuck gets a shot. He’ll have to beat Rua or Jackson; not gonna happen.
Jardine must have learned his fight stance by playing ATARI boxing:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/89/Atari2600Boxing.png/200px-Atari2600Boxing.png/quote
Hendo has the Hands to beat Rua or Page. Im not saying he will but he deffinitly could. We will see soon enough.[/quote]
I see what you mean when comparing Hendo’s right hand to Rua who we have seen get his knee’s turned to spaghetti by solid punches in the past. Not to say Rampage is invincible (we all know he isnt) but I’ve never seen him get “rocked” by anyone’s punches. I know that a well timed punch in the right spot can put any man to sleep but it’s always been Muai Thai knee’s that test Page’s equalibrium.
So, to give Hendo a chance vs Page based on his “hands”, then are you saying that Hendo hits harder than Chuck, Wand or Rua? Because Page has shrugged-off their best shots & kept coming.
Personally, I think Hendo’s only chance against Page is to grind out a decision win.[/quote]
I think Hendo does hit harder than Chuck and Rua probably not Wandi he throws alot of bombs with alot of momentum behind them. And i think he can also take a punch better than Chuck and Rua. But that doesnt mean i’ll go as far to say Henderson will beat Page. Page can take alot of abuse to the dome but like ya said. In the right spot a punch can put anyone to sleep. And i think Hendo wont be afraid to come right in after Page as to where alot of fighters are wary of that. I think its an awesome match-up and could easily go either way. Page is just more explosive and probably physically stronger. Even though they say Hendo is deceivingly strong. I hope its a great fight.
I think the way to beat Page is just to come in and overwhelm him,Make him wilt under constant pressure no matter what he does.
i say liddell-jardine and silva-alexander.winners fight eachother,winners of that get a title shot
[quote comment=”104388″][quote comment=”104332″][quote comment=”104165″][quote comment=”104154″][quote comment=”104138″]Chuck takes this one then regains his title, against hendo.[/quote]
Chuck won’t ever see hendo - hendo’s out before chuck gets a shot. He’ll have to beat Rua or Jackson; not gonna happen.
Jardine must have learned his fight stance by playing ATARI boxing:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/89/Atari2600Boxing.png/200px-Atari2600Boxing.png/quote
Hendo has the Hands to beat Rua or Page. Im not saying he will but he deffinitly could. We will see soon enough.[/quote]
I see what you mean when comparing Hendo’s right hand to Rua who we have seen get his knee’s turned to spaghetti by solid punches in the past. Not to say Rampage is invincible (we all know he isnt) but I’ve never seen him get “rocked” by anyone’s punches. I know that a well timed punch in the right spot can put any man to sleep but it’s always been Muai Thai knee’s that test Page’s equalibrium.
So, to give Hendo a chance vs Page based on his “hands”, then are you saying that Hendo hits harder than Chuck, Wand or Rua? Because Page has shrugged-off their best shots & kept coming.
Personally, I think Hendo’s only chance against Page is to grind out a decision win.[/quote]
I think Hendo does hit harder than Chuck and Rua probably not Wandi he throws alot of bombs with alot of momentum behind them. And i think he can also take a punch better than Chuck and Rua. But that doesnt mean i’ll go as far to say Henderson will beat Page. Page can take alot of abuse to the dome but like ya said. In the right spot a punch can put anyone to sleep. And i think Hendo wont be afraid to come right in after Page as to where alot of fighters are wary of that. I think its an awesome match-up and could easily go either way. Page is just more explosive and probably physically stronger. Even though they say Hendo is deceivingly strong. I hope its a great fight.[/quote]
I hope it’s a great fight as well. You’re definately right about Hendo not being afraid to come after Page. It’s just that using that game plan my play right into Page’s strengths. From what I’ve perceived, Hendo is a mirror image of his friend & training partner Matt Lindland, except that Hendo has dynamite in his right hand. Although Lindland was a handful, Page had an answer for everything he threw at him. It was a very exciting fight & I see the Hendo fight going the same road but with much more striking. I like Hendo alot but I dont see him winning this match-up.
[quote comment=”104121″]dana white has been acting like a turd…
he’s trying to paint bad pictures of any fighter who doesn’t do exactly as he wishes… or so it seems[/quote]
I think Silva probably wanted to get paid and White hasn’t pulled out his checkbook yet so he said/she said is going on.
[quote comment=”104461″]i say liddell-jardine and silva-alexander.winners fight eachother,winners of that get a title shot[/quote]
Alexander still has to prove himself. If he loses his next fight, then people will dismiss the Jardine win. Like that kids’ game Chutes & Ladders where you land on the wrong space and go all the way the f$$k back.
[quote comment=”104285″]One more time for the readers who may have overlloked this,
Dana White has no credibility, he may as well be Don King’s half brother. Homo.
[/quote]
First White needs a big ass Buckwheat wig to look like King’s half bro.
Chuck should be fighting Houston instead of Jardine
[quote comment=”104608″][quote comment=”104461″]i say liddell-jardine and silva-alexander.winners fight eachother,winners of that get a title shot[/quote]
Alexander still has to prove himself. If he loses his next fight, then people will dismiss the Jardine win. Like that kids’ game Chutes & Ladders where you land on the wrong space and go all the way the f$$k back.[/quote]
Very true. Although Houston absolutely demolished Jardine, he is still untested and has not earned a fight against someone of Liddell’s caliber. Chuck is 37 and has no time to waste. He needs to concentrate on fighting only the best at this point in his career. Anything else is a waste of time , ie: Chuck vs Jardine.
[quote comment=”104546″][quote comment=”104388″][quote comment=”104332″][quote comment=”104165″][quote comment=”104154″][quote comment=”104138″]Chuck takes this one then regains his title, against hendo.[/quote]
Chuck won’t ever see hendo - hendo’s out before chuck gets a shot. He’ll have to beat Rua or Jackson; not gonna happen.
Jardine must have learned his fight stance by playing ATARI boxing:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/89/Atari2600Boxing.png/200px-Atari2600Boxing.png/quote
Hendo has the Hands to beat Rua or Page. Im not saying he will but he deffinitly could. We will see soon enough.[/quote]
I see what you mean when comparing Hendo’s right hand to Rua who we have seen get his knee’s turned to spaghetti by solid punches in the past. Not to say Rampage is invincible (we all know he isnt) but I’ve never seen him get “rocked” by anyone’s punches. I know that a well timed punch in the right spot can put any man to sleep but it’s always been Muai Thai knee’s that test Page’s equalibrium.
So, to give Hendo a chance vs Page based on his “hands”, then are you saying that Hendo hits harder than Chuck, Wand or Rua? Because Page has shrugged-off their best shots & kept coming.
Personally, I think Hendo’s only chance against Page is to grind out a decision win.[/quote]
I think Hendo does hit harder than Chuck and Rua probably not Wandi he throws alot of bombs with alot of momentum behind them. And i think he can also take a punch better than Chuck and Rua. But that doesnt mean i’ll go as far to say Henderson will beat Page. Page can take alot of abuse to the dome but like ya said. In the right spot a punch can put anyone to sleep. And i think Hendo wont be afraid to come right in after Page as to where alot of fighters are wary of that. I think its an awesome match-up and could easily go either way. Page is just more explosive and probably physically stronger. Even though they say Hendo is deceivingly strong. I hope its a great fight.[/quote]
I hope it’s a great fight as well. You’re definately right about Hendo not being afraid to come after Page. It’s just that using that game plan my play right into Page’s strengths. From what I’ve perceived, Hendo is a mirror image of his friend & training partner Matt Lindland, except that Hendo has dynamite in his right hand. Although Lindland was a handful, Page had an answer for everything he threw at him. It was a very exciting fight & I see the Hendo fight going the same road but with much more striking. I like Hendo alot but I dont see him winning this match-up.[/quote]
Yeah Page is a deffinite challenge for Hendo. And could take any punishment Hendo can dish out. I cant wait to see this fight.
Wandy vs Lidell. A true 50/50 fight, though I would take Wandy cause he is not as 1 dimensional as the beergut. Im a fan of Lidell, and was the only person out of like ten to pick Rampage to beat him.
Now lets see….I dont think either is hiding. CHuck has said he wants the fight. Wandy wants it just as bad. So here we go again. Lidell KOs Jardine, and goes to fight Wandy at 77 ( I think thats what it will be) and the winner faces the Shogun fight( Because we know Shogun will beat that guy he is facing in his 1st bout)and it Doesnt really matter Shogun will dominate any one of them.
So I say by next year it will be very clear…a HUGE UFC fight probably in feburary/March
For the LightHeavy Weight title:
Shogun vs (champion) Dan Henderson.
Thats my opinion.
fucking awesome fights to look forward to:
Shogun’s first UFC fight. Rampage, Henderson. Lidell, Jardine.
Lidell, Silva. Gonzaga, Coutre. Serra, Hughes.
Seems fair why come in a fight at 50% against Chuck its a no brianer Chuck would have Wandi but if he was 100% i can almost se Wandi coming out on top.
Dana just wants to rush Wandy into the octagon to fight Chuck, just like he did with Rampage. Rampage clearly stated that he wanted to have at least 2 fights in the UFC before fighting Chuck. Did Dana grant him his wish? No. And why? Because he was trying to rush Rampage into the octagon so he would not have time to get used to the octagon, nor enough time to train for his biggest fight, nor to make his name big in the USA. Dana was trying to set Rampage up to lose.
Now Dana is pulling this same crap with Wandy. Wandy said he wants to take the year of 2007 off. He needs to regroup and train for the octagon. But no, Dana wants to rush him right in so that Chuck will have have a much better chance at beating an unprepared fighter. If Chuck doesn’t have the upper edge against a fighter, Dana will not sign the fight. Dana protects Chuck more than he would protect his own wife.
And as far as Dana putting Chuck against Jardine, what the hell is that? Who else would get a “#1 contener fight” against an opponent that just got KO’d in 30 seconds? I want nothing more than to see Silva/Liddell. But after all this Dana White crap, I really want to see Dana’s plan backfire. I want Jardine to crush Liddell’s face in, and then the camera cuts to Dana in the crowd and Wandy is giving him Muay Tai knees to the face. Now that’s a PPV!!!
[quote post=”2736″]i say liddell-jardine and silva-alexander.winners fight eachother,winners of that get a title shot [/quote]
Houston Alexander is and should be as far away from a title shot as Elvis Sinosic.
[quote comment=”104117″]Let Chuck fight Jardine, if Jardine wants to step into the octagon. Jardine is great on his feet, with heavy hands. Last fight he got caught, cause he was overconfident, just like Chuck was overconfident against Rampage.[/quote]
Chuck wasn’t over confident.. Chuck has been lucky! he’s not as good as he thinks he is. He just an endorsement wh_re for the UFC. Dana stands up and touts that the UFC is so much better than pride…. then when proven wrong, buys them! To make it worse he dismantles Pride. Silva will eat Chuck alive. Henderson will eat Chuck alive!! Rampage beat him twice!! Knocked him out!
Franklin could beat him! Chuck is done! All he has left is a lucky punch. The UFC has become more like WWE than WWE. It needs fixing. Stop this contract stuff and go back to purses. Get rid of Dana and Joe, give us back fights, and stop the crappy stage show.
L8R
[quote comment=”114356″][quote comment=”104117″]Let Chuck fight Jardine, if Jardine wants to step into the octagon. Jardine is great on his feet, with heavy hands. Last fight he got caught, cause he was overconfident, just like Chuck was overconfident against Rampage.[/quote]
Chuck wasn’t over confident.. Chuck has been lucky! he’s not as good as he thinks he is. He just an endorsement wh_re for the UFC. Dana stands up and touts that the UFC is so much better than pride…. then when proven wrong, buys them! To make it worse he dismantles Pride. Silva will eat Chuck alive. Henderson will eat Chuck alive!! Rampage beat him twice!! Knocked him out!
Franklin could beat him! Chuck is done! All he has left is a lucky punch. The UFC has become more like WWE than WWE. It needs fixing. Stop this contract stuff and go back to purses. Get rid of Dana and Joe, give us back fights, and stop the crappy stage show.
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Chucks better than he thinks he is lol what a joke. And UFC buying Pride was a possiblity even before Chuck lost to Page. So i dont see how he was proven wrong. what Page beat chuck so that proves that Pride is better. Gonzaga beat Cro cop so does that mean the UFC is better. Pride has/had good fighters and so does the UFC. And the UFC aint even close to WWE not even a realistic comparison. And Dana isnt UFC more minds go into decisions than just Dana’s. He’s done alot for the sport so give some respect. And what stage show per say are you talking about? The UFC wouldnt be close to where it is today if it wasnt for Dana White yeah he can be a dickbag but stop blaming him for everything.
>Gonzaga beat Cro cop so does that mean the UFC is better
First of, Gonzaga and Cop has the same amount of fights in UFC i.e. Gonzaga as much UFC guy as Cro-Cop. Second, Cop is known for his flashy loses, it’s not the first time for him to lose soundly (Randleman). Third, wait for the best of the best from Pride, coz the best ones arn’t touched the UFC soil yet.
if anything i think chuck’s style is suted for wanderlei.chuck stays back and is not aggressive enough to beat wanderlei. silva will be more aggressive than rampage and we all know what happened there.oh yay most of us should know what happened when wanderlei was too agressive for rampage and he kicked the shit out of him not once but twice in pride fc! once leaving rampage hanging over the center rope.i like all good fighters like chuck and rampage and hendo but known of them are as focused and vicious as wanderlei.think about all he has to do to move from brazil to set up his club in(FLORIDA)which is were he’s moving to.right now he’s working with randy couture at randi’s club but how could he be ready to fight in september? give the guy a fucking break!he’s not going to go in against chuck half assed,or anybody else for that matter.i don’t think half of you people have seen anymore than maybe one of his fights. there is a reason why Bas rueten called him “THE AXE MURDERER”.silva is fast and he doesn’t let up. he kicked and punched his way to the top and remained champion for over 6 yrs in pride fc,feared by most and destroying the rest! sure he got beat,they all do. he never had a chance to win his title back before the ufc took over.silva’s demeanor might be layed back outside the cage but you think rampage wooped chuck, wanderlei is going to mangle and retire chuck! 1st rd. ko! so have a look at pride ABSOLUTE when he fought fujita 265lbs and wanderlei beat him to a bloody pulp. DON”T UNDERESTIMATE WANDERLEI SILVA,THE AXE MURDERER!
[quote comment=”114356″][quote comment=”104117″]Let Chuck fight Jardine, if Jardine wants to step into the octagon. Jardine is great on his feet, with heavy hands. Last fight he got caught, cause he was overconfident, just like Chuck was overconfident against Rampage.[/quote]
Chuck wasn’t over confident.. Chuck has been lucky! he’s not as good as he thinks he is. He just an endorsement wh_re for the UFC. Dana stands up and touts that the UFC is so much better than pride…. then when proven wrong, buys them! To make it worse he dismantles Pride. Silva will eat Chuck alive. Henderson will eat Chuck alive!! Rampage beat him twice!! Knocked him out!
Franklin could beat him! Chuck is done! All he has left is a lucky punch. The UFC has become more like WWE than WWE. It needs fixing. Stop this contract stuff and go back to purses. Get rid of Dana and Joe, give us back fights, and stop the crappy stage show.
L8R[/quote]
i’m with you on this one.pride fighters are underestimated because they haven’t been as exposed in north america. look what chris the asshole leben said before he fought anderson silva,”i’m going to send this guy back to japan were the compitition is a little easier”. how long did leben last all of maybe 15 seconds.surprise look where silva is now!
MAURICIO RUA and WANDERLEI SILVA will be the first fighters to perform a FATALITY on their apponents in the octagon when they fight against forrest griffin and the iceman. It is LUDACRIS that these mortals (forrest/iceman) even attempt to enter the REALM of SHOGUN AND THE AXE MURDER. HAHAHA!