Comments on: UFC Quick Quote: Lions, tigers and bears Oh My!

By: nathan

nathan — Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:48:47 +0000

First off his last two fights were against BJJ black belts, not so easy to submit, but most of Sherks wins come from submissions, of his last 10 wins 6 are by submission. Franca is a very tough guy and is hard to finish, also check his record in 24 fights he’s only been finished once(KO’ed) and lost 5 decisions. The thing I found funny was franca’s claim to impress Sherk with his strength sounds like he got a lesson in reality LOL. Most think BJ Penn will destroy sherk, I don’t and won’t be surprised if Sherk pulls off another decision. I also won’t be surprised if Penn beats him early on, I think its more like 50/50 than a Sherk massacre, like most think.

By: RoB

RoB — Tue, 10 Jul 2007 10:25:52 +0000

Where were all these “true fight fans” when matt hughes was gettin slaughtered on this web site for his blanket match against lytle.(I sure as hell wasn’t defending hughes). Scary thing is i dont think sherk even knows how to finish. Did someone tell him you cant win by pin.

By: Gregan

Gregan — Mon, 09 Jul 2007 21:02:19 +0000

What is the purpose of gaining the full mount position? Just so you can turn to the judges and say “See I am good enough to get full mount”. No, you strive to get the full mount position so that you can inflict damage and WIN the fight. Sean Sherk does not seem to understand this. How many times did he easily pass Franca’s guard to get full mount and/or his back? He gets there and then forgets why he wanted to get there in the first place. Maybe Sherk should watch Hughes vs Gracie to see how a real champion fights and EARNS respect.

By: Tim Willett

Tim Willett — Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:30:17 +0000

[quote post="2677"]How many times did Rashad have Tito up in the air for a slam only to have Tito weasel out of it by grabbing the fence?

Actually, twice… and no, McCarthey NEVER stopped the fight to issue a point deduction. How many times did Rashad get straight up slammed? Atleast 7-8. Rashad didnt do well in that fight for the first two rounds, AT ALL. The draw was a total joke…[/quote]That’s odd we must have watched two different fights. Cause the one I saw Rashad got slammed once and Tito grabbed the fence at least 7-8 times. Rashad clearly took the third round and Tito definately got the first. The second probably went to Tito because of that guilitine at the end but I still think it shoulda been 10 9 to Rashad because had Tito not grabbed the fence he would have been taken down mulitiple times. There was a minimimum of 5-6 take downs that Tito stopped by grabbing the fence. Your right the draw was rediculous because it was rediculous taht Tito didn’t have more than one point taken away for grabbing the fence every time he got rapped up by Rashad.

By: Flaadog

Flaadog — Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:28:28 +0000

[quote comment="100538"]It was crazy last night with all the drunk rednecks. Those fans booed non stop the WHOLE event. I was shocked to hear them booing Big Nog vs. Herring. That fight was awesome.[/quote]

73 was my first live event. Arco is a great venue for the Octagon, which surprised me. I am used to much larger arenas. All in all it was a great experience. BUT, the fans there did suck hard. They truly did boo much of the night, but it was especially annoying during the Sherk fight. What also sucked is when people would boo so loud that you couldn’t hear the post fight interview with Joe.

Is this a California thing? I would still go again, but give me a break, idiots!

By: MMAFan1981

MMAFan1981 — Mon, 09 Jul 2007 18:38:55 +0000

[quote comment="101122"][quote comment="101028"]How many times did Rashad have Tito up in the air for a slam only to have Tito weasel out of it by grabbing the fence?[/quote]Actually, twice… and no, McCarthey NEVER stopped the fight to issue a point deduction. How many times did Rashad get straight up slammed? Atleast 7-8. Rashad didnt do well in that fight for the first two rounds, AT ALL. The draw was a total joke…
[quote comment="101065"]Go ahead and go pro. The reason those two guys were dancing around was because they respected each others abilities. That means you would have to prove that you have abilities before before someone will dance around like that and not engage.[/quote]
Come off a lil more abrasive next time…
I didnt say ‘two guys were dancing’ I was refering directly to Rashad who was the only one dancing. But as a self proclaimed noob, you knew that already.[/quote]

The only problem with your comment is that Tito wasn’t much more aggressive but I guess we weren’t watching the same fight. All and all neither guy pushed much action after the midway point of the second round until the only true slam of the fight by Rashad at the end of round 3. Tito did not have Rashad on his back once throughout that whole fight. So as for “slammed” I think you need to watch the Sherk/Franca fight again to see true slams.

By: Luppers

Luppers — Mon, 09 Jul 2007 17:27:13 +0000

[quote comment="101028"]How many times did Rashad have Tito up in the air for a slam only to have Tito weasel out of it by grabbing the fence?[/quote]Actually, twice… and no, McCarthey NEVER stopped the fight to issue a point deduction. How many times did Rashad get straight up slammed? Atleast 7-8. Rashad didnt do well in that fight for the first two rounds, AT ALL. The draw was a total joke…
[quote comment="101065"]Go ahead and go pro. The reason those two guys were dancing around was because they respected each others abilities. That means you would have to prove that you have abilities before before someone will dance around like that and not engage.[/quote]
Come off a lil more abrasive next time…
I didnt say ‘two guys were dancing’ I was refering directly to Rashad who was the only one dancing. But as a self proclaimed noob, you knew that already.

By: Mr Angry

Mr Angry — Mon, 09 Jul 2007 17:11:12 +0000

Agree/Disagree I don’t care(!) but although I honestly 100% admire Sean Sherk’s skill and he’s SOO strong and an amazing wrestler, I do find his fights a bit stale to watch. If it was 3 rounds all sweet and rosy, but 5 rounds of G&P and obviously great wrestling is not my ideal fight especially when there never even looks like any attempt to end it early. He never looked at any time to me like he was gonna do anything to try and stop Franca or submit him. The highlight of the entire fight was Franca’s knee in round 2 (don’t deny it!) Ortiz relies mainly on wrestling and G&P too but the guy’s so random and he does go in for the kill.

Dis me all you want, it’s only an oppinion, but Sherk has got to be alongside Tim Sylvia as a champion that doesn’t give the fans the thrill of most UFC bouts. Stoppages OR points wins.
I can see Sherk being champ for a while though. At least until BJ Penn ties his spine in a knot lol

By: MMAFan1981

MMAFan1981 — Mon, 09 Jul 2007 16:03:42 +0000

[quote comment="100567"]Sherk is awesome… but a boring fighter. He’s a one-dimensional wet blanket. Nothing wrong with that, but he will never be a popular champion.[/quote]

If he were in Japan he would be unbelievably popular but since we are in the only country where everyone thinks that they should get everything they want, he’s not.

By: MMAFan1981

MMAFan1981 — Mon, 09 Jul 2007 15:57:29 +0000

[quote comment="100848"]
I’d like to see Marquardt fight Silva again.[/quote]

I am not sure why you would want to watch Marquardt get dominated again like he did. That fight was over and if they wouldn’t have stopped it “The Great” would have been “The Late”. He was done after that big right hand that Silva landed to his face. When a guy rolls into the fetal position and covers his head the fight is not going anywhere but to a bad place.