“The number one thing is going to be financial. We’re looking at different factors, such as the level of exposure that the organization can bring me and the talent I can go up against. I want to fight anyone that’s on top. I think the No. 1 guy in my division [185 pounds] right now is Dan Henderson. You’ve also got Anderson Silva, who’s real tough, out there, and there are guys like Rich Franklin. It’s such a deep division. I don’t want any easy fights. I want the best fights, the hardest fights…. Just the exposure alone [in the UFC] is worth heavy consideration. It’s something I want a piece of. Every time that I go to corner a friend [or] a teammate at a UFC, or if I just go to watch, I realize I have a lot of fans. Everybody always asks me when I’m going to be fighting in the UFC. It just depends on who is going to make the right offer.”
– Talented middleweight free agent Denis Kang tells FightNetwork.com that he is in negotiations with several organizations such as the UFC, BodogFIGHT and EliteXC. He expects to make a decision this week but says it’s all about the Benjamin’s.
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So far bodog has the strongest offer – at least thats the gossip. But I hope the UFC will improve their offer now after they’ve lost Sokoudjou to EliteXC due to their bad offer. I hope they learned their lesson if their ideal is still got bring the best fighters in the world together, because thats an exclusive group in which Denis Kang certainly belongs.
This guy wants to fight the top guys, where else is he going to go?
he better go to the ufc bodog has no talent and neither does elite xc well except for soko
Kang v. Silva = Silva via 1 RD KO
Kang v. Hendo = Hendo via 1 RD KO
Kang v. Franklin = Franklin via 2 RD TKO
Why would he waste his time? He is a good fighter, don’t get me wrong, but not even close to being in the same class as Hendo, Franklin or Silva. Get some MORE practice in different shows…maybe the WEC, but then you have Filho to deal with… hopeless
you have no idea what you are tlaking about kang has talent when silva came to the ufc he came from pride and cage rage without fighting big names just like kang and became a better fighter give him time you will see after his next fight
[quote comment="86872"]Why would he waste his time? He is a good fighter, don’t get me wrong, but not even close to being in the same class as Hendo, Franklin or Silva. Get some MORE practice in different shows…maybe the WEC, but then you have Filho to deal with… hopeless[/quote]
Dude, why would you not want one of the top guys in the world to fight in the UFC? So what if he never wins the belt. There is only one belt and several fighters who have succesful careers. Bring us Kang, UFC!
The UFC needs Kang, much more than they needed Soko. Soko is still somewhat unproven in a very deep division for the UFC. Kang is a proven top fighter in a division where the UFC only has 4 legit top fighters.
And titojr, you’re way off about Kang not being in the same class as Silva, Franklin and co.
[quote comment="86872"]Why would he waste his time? He is a good fighter, don’t get me wrong, but not even close to being in the same class as Hendo, Franklin or Silva. Get some MORE practice in different shows…maybe the WEC, but then you have Filho to deal with… hopeless[/quote]
If you read the story, he says why he’d want to fight in the UFC. Another promotion might offer him more money, but if he wants to fight the best, he knows who to sign with, and while he may never win a title, just the exposure of being a UFC fighter will pay big dividends as the UFC broadens its appeal world-wide.
[quote comment="86876"][quote comment="86872"]Why would he waste his time? He is a good fighter, don’t get me wrong, but not even close to being in the same class as Hendo, Franklin or Silva. Get some MORE practice in different shows…maybe the WEC, but then you have Filho to deal with… hopeless[/quote]
Dude, why would you not want one of the top guys in the world to fight in the UFC? So what if he never wins the belt. There is only one belt and several fighters who have succesful careers. Bring us Kang, UFC![/quote]
Leave it 2 a guy named titojr. 2 say something “hopeless” when all the upsets have happened recently…such as Serra-GSP,Rampage-Liddel,and Gonzaga-Crocop.Never mind Kos-Sanchez.Speaking of 185lbers, I was a little surprised Franklin beat Okami.It reminded me of Swick-Loiseau, Franklin,like Swick dominating the 1st 2 rnds, then kind of running out of gas. Because these 2 fights were only 3 rounders,we’ll never know what could’ve been if there was no time limit like the old dayz!
The UFC is smart. They know fighting in the Octagon makes you famous and desireable to other organizations. Why should they pay the most of any company to someone and give him the fame to go with it. This will create so many people that the UFC wouldn’t be able to contain it and the overflow will allow other companies to eat better from the fighters fame and fans the UFC built. You might not mind small competition but your not trying to feed them. If a guy chooses to go with another company because he want’s bigger money how can we be pissed at the UFC. Should they just tell the fighters to go get the highest bid then come back and we’ll beat it? Great business plan. And I’m the smoker here.
True story Tommy! Besides that, he only signed a 4 fight deal. I don’t think he’ll lose all 4 fights…matter of fact I predict him 2 win whoever he faces period. But even if he did lose all 4 fights, there would still be a chance we could see him in the UFC after his deal is up. Sooner or later he’ll face stiff competition!!!
Frankly I’ve never heard of Denise Kang. Where has he been fighting and who has he fought?
[quote comment="86872"]Kang v. Silva =
Silva via 1 RD KO
Kang v. Hendo =
Hendo via 1 RD KO
Kang v. Franklin = Franklin via 2 RD TKO
Why would he waste his time? He is a good fighter, don’t get me wrong, but not even close to being in the same class as Hendo, Franklin or Silva. Get some MORE practice in different shows…maybe the WEC, but then you have Filho to deal with… hopeless[/quote]
[quote comment="86872"]Kang v. Silva =
Do you know who Kang is? Denis Kang would rip through rich and silva in less than 1 round. Kang has fought all over the world, has a tenacious fighting style and is very well rounded. Saying that he isn’t on the level of Silva and Franklin is just dumb. Henderson, Yes I agree but Rich and Silva would get tooled.
[quote comment="86943"][quote comment="86872"]Kang v. Silva =
Silva via 1 RD KO
Kang v. Hendo =
Hendo via 1 RD KO
Kang v. Franklin = Franklin via 2 RD TKO
Why would he waste his time? He is a good fighter, don’t get me wrong, but not even close to being in the same class as Hendo, Franklin or Silva. Get some MORE practice in different shows…maybe the WEC, but then you have Filho to deal with… hopeless[/quote]
[quote comment="86872"]Kang v. Silva =
Do you know who Kang is? Denis Kang would rip through rich and silva in less than 1 round. Kang has fought all over the world, has a tenacious fighting style and is very well rounded. Saying that he isn’t on the level of Silva and Franklin is just dumb. Henderson, Yes I agree but Rich and Silva would get tooled.[/quote]
You beat me to it i was just going to right that, Kang is an amazing fighters and would humilate Franklins ablities.
He’s gonna go to the UFC. There is no way he’ll go to Bodog. Bodog’s competition is lame. EliteXC is only a slight step up. UFC’s the best place for Denis.
[quote comment="86872"]Kang v. Silva =
Silva via 1 RD KO
Kang v. Hendo =
Hendo via 1 RD KO
Kang v. Franklin = Franklin via 2 RD TKO
Why would he waste his time? He is a good fighter, don’t get me wrong, but not even close to being in the same class as Hendo, Franklin or Silva. Get some MORE practice in different shows…maybe the WEC, but then you have Filho to deal with… hopeless[/quote]
You have no idea… You’ll see, I’ll bookmark this page right now and come back to it in a year and stick it to ya
This guy has been underestimated, by a Newbie, because too many Newbies think that MMA begins and ends with the UFC. BROADEN YOUR HORIZONS. Some of the best fighters in the world, like Kang, have never fought in the UFC. Thats what makes some of these new aquisitions so awesome.
[quote comment="86942"]Frankly I’ve never heard of Denise Kang. Where has he been fighting and who has he fought?[/quote] Yo MAMA’S Boy U need to go to YOUTUBE and search for Dennis Kang….Kang is one of the Elite Fighters in the World in his weight class, he has great standup,ground skills….As fo a his fights in Pride he’s KO “NINJA RUA” in 18 seconds..I see him making a huge Impact on the MWD..Instant Contender!!!!!
Kang could beat Henderson, some of you guys act like Henderson is an unstoppable monster because he KO’d Wanderlai.
[quote comment="86942"]Frankly I’ve never heard of Denise Kang. Where has he been fighting and who has he fought?[/quote]
You should try to get ahold of a Bushido 12 and esp. 13 DVD’s or clips on youtube / dailymotion and so on. Before the Bushido 13 final (a PrideFC tournament) he had 18 wins and 1 draw out of his last 19 fights! Then he got robbed by judges decision in the finals against Misaki, a fight he entered regardless of the torn biceps he had from his fight earlier that night.
This guy is amazing and is a Top5 middleweight. He is one of my favorites and I’m sure you’ll like him too once you see a couple of his fights.
I hope he signs with anyone but the UFC. The UFC has become too powerful and needs a strong competition. The only one who benefits if the UFC gobbles up all the stars is the UFC. I pray that Vera and Fedor go elsewhere too. The UFC underpays it’s fighters but keeps them because they dangle the carrot of TV exposure. If they are successful in signing all the top talent, then we will pay the price by seeing only the match-ups that UFC chooses. We will also be over a barrel the same as the fighters, because being the only game in town means they can charge whatever they want for the PPV. Ultimately we would see less fights from the top notch talent, because you can only have so many PPV’s and the talent pool would be too deep.
[quote comment="87087"]Kang could beat Henderson, some of you guys act like Henderson is an unstoppable monster because he KO’d Wanderlai.[/quote]
Wandy’s a ham ZZZzzz.
[quote comment="87132"]I hope he signs with anyone but the UFC. The UFC has become too powerful and needs a strong competition. The only one who benefits if the UFC gobbles up all the stars is the UFC. I pray that Vera and Fedor go elsewhere too. The UFC underpays it’s fighters but keeps them because they dangle the carrot of TV exposure. If they are successful in signing all the top talent, then we will pay the price by seeing only the match-ups that UFC chooses. We will also be over a barrel the same as the fighters, because being the only game in town means they can charge whatever they want for the PPV. Ultimately we would see less fights from the top notch talent, because you can only have so many PPV’s and the talent pool would be too deep.[/quote]
I disagree, I think if the UFC becomes bigger, gets better/bigger fighters then it will install itself as “THE” MMA institution. Why do I think this is a good thing? Because it takes itself one step closer to where boxing was.
As for the UFC underpaying the fighters, I can’t deny that this is true. Compared to PRIDE, the figeters get underpaid. Screw what the gate receipts show. UFC 70 claimed almost $2.6 mill USD. From that Liddell was reported to be paid half a million, Rampage, $200,000. It sounds good but what about the $30 million they made on the PPV? The Fertitas and Dana are getting rich!
One thing I’ll say about why I like the big fighters in the UFC is that they get exposure. Fedor in Blowdog Fight is stupid. He has shit competition so he’ll always win and he is getting fat fighting chumps. Meanwhile that criminal who owns Blowdog can never come back to North America because he’ll be thrown in the slammer. Pathetic really.
I don’t feel over a barrel at all… I do think UFC should pay the UFN competitors a bit more, have fighter insurance (medical etc), pay foreign fighters taxes (Non-US fighters winning in the States pay 20% on fight purse), etc. PRIDE did treat their stars very well. UFC needs to step up.
[quote comment="87066"][quote comment="86942"]Frankly I’ve never heard of Denise Kang. Where has he been fighting and who has he fought?[/quote]
Yo MAMA’S Boy U need to go to YOUTUBE and search for Dennis Kang….Kang is one of the Elite Fighters in the World in his weight class, he has great standup,ground skills….As fo a his fights in Pride he’s KO “NINJA RUA” in 18 seconds..I see him making a huge Impact on the MWD..Instant Contender!!!!![/quote]
Normally reliable sherdog.com doesn’t return anything on him when you search by name but if you just select middleweights and browse, near bottom of page 3 there he is. Let’s see what we got here. I see the quick win over Ninja but no other name I recognize. There are a lot of fighters I don’t know about but I do know who the top guys are and they aint on that list.
AS A MATTER OF FACT… I think Ninja benefits from being related to Shogun because look at Ninja’s record. This is the first time I’ve looked at it. He hasn’t beaten any big names himself. So Kang’s 15 second KO of Ninja doesn’t impress me.
If Kang is all that, then why hasn’t he gotten a title shot or at least fought a top contender? Look at Soko. He only has two Pride fights but both against upper classman. My guess is Kang is definitely a talented guy and they are slowly developing him. That doesn’t mean he is ready to take the belt right now though.
Kang,Ninja,NYBA,Loiseau,Tanner,Leben,Riggs… I could go on and on. It almost doesn’t matter who these guys face because none of them are the best. But that doesn’t mean I don’t enjoy watching them battle. I try not to pick favorites because I’m a fan of almost all MMA fighters. There are a few I got beef with, and even them, I respect their talent. STOP SNITCHIN, STOP DISSIN!
[quote][quote]
Kang v. Silva =
Do you know who Kang is? Denis Kang would rip through rich and silva in less than 1 round. Kang has fought all over the world, has a tenacious fighting style and is very well rounded. Saying that he isn’t on the level of Silva and Franklin is just dumb. Henderson, Yes I agree but Rich and Silva would get tooled.[/quote]
You beat me to it i was just going to right that, Kang is an amazing fighters and would humilate Franklins ablities.[/quote]
Ha! You both sound like those fat Bears fans on saturday night live saying “who would win a street fight between Mike Ditka and Satan”? “DIIIKKKA!!”
I just find it strange that a man with Kang’s ability to tear through anyone wouldn’t have been given a match against a top contender yet or even a title shot. Dude has like 20 fights to his name. Does that make any sense to you or is there also a big worldwide conspiracy to keep Denis Kang down?
[quote post="2518"]Ha! You both sound like those fat Bears fans on saturday night live saying “who would win a street fight between Mike Ditka and Satan”? “DIIIKKKA!!”[/quote]
that’s sum funny sh*t
[quote post="2518"]AS A MATTER OF FACT… I think Ninja benefits from being related to Shogun because look at Ninja’s record. This is the first time I’ve looked at it. He hasn’t beaten any big names himself. So Kang’s 15 second KO of Ninja doesn’t impress me.
y don’t more people think like us
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Mamas Boy
Jun 23rd, 2007 at 9:55 am
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If Kang is all that, then why hasn’t he gotten a title shot or at least fought a top contender? Look at Soko. He only has two Pride fights but both against upper classman. My guess is Kang is definitely a talented guy and they are slowly developing him. That doesn’t mean he is ready to take the belt right now though.[/quote]
Dennis Kang is an extremely talented fighter who is as solid as a fighter can be. If the UFC gets him he is in the top 3. I think that he will win the belt from whoever holds it at the time.
[quote post="2518"]Ha! You both sound like those fat Bears fans on saturday night live saying “who would win a street fight between Mike Ditka and Satan”? “DIIIKKKA!!”
I just find it strange that a man with Kang’s ability to tear through anyone wouldn’t have been given a match against a top contender yet or even a title shot. Dude has like 20 fights to his name. Does that make any sense to you or is there also a big worldwide conspiracy to keep Denis Kang down? [/quote]
You admitadly said earlier that you never heard of Dennis Kang. That would mean that you never watched PRIDE. How can you come to such conclusions about a fighter when you never knew a thing about him until 10 minutes earlier. You act like PRIDE had no talent. If you don’t know PRID, how would you know Kang’s opponent. You are the type of fan that cried when Chuck Liddel lost and will continue to do so while PRIDE veterans take every belt in the UFC. It won’t be long.
[quote comment="90377"][quote post="2518"]fight between Mike Ditka and Satan”? “DIIIKKKA!!”
I just find it strange that a man with Kang’s ability to tear through anyone wouldn’t have been given a match against a top contender yet or even a title shot. [/quote]
You admitadly said earlier that you never heard of Dennis Kang. That would mean that you never watched PRIDE. How can you come to such conclusions about a fighter when you never knew a thing about him until 10 minutes earlier. You act like PRIDE had no talent. If you don’t know PRID, how would you know Kang’s opponent. You are the type of fan that cried when Chuck Liddel lost and will continue to do so while PRIDE veterans take every belt in the UFC. It won’t be long.[/quote]
Some absurd statements here: “you’ve never seen a Pride fight”, “you act like Pride has no talent”. I’ve seen maybe 25 Pride fights between Comcast’s show or internet download. That doesn’t make me an expert on Pride but I didn’t say I am. 25 is certainly more than none. As far as acting like Pride has no talent, I’m always posting about how great Shogun, Fedor, Noguira, Josh Barnett, Coleman, Wanderlei Silva, and Cropcop are. Most would disagree with me on Barnett and Coleman.
I certainly never said Rampage sucks- he’s a bad dude. I am surprised and disappointed that Liddell lost to him again. A third match looks doubtful.
If you read my posts, I would say I’m definitely pro-Pride compared to most of the “UFC- or die” fans on this board.
I’ve submitted more verbage OBO Denis Kang than he’s worth so far. I hope he does become something. I look forward to seeing him fight somewhere.
Mama’s Boy, does Comcast still run that show now or no? I just recently switch from Dish Network to Comcast and I haven’t come across any PRIDE yet. I had all my favorite channels I watched programmed on my Dish Network reciever. What channel was that on, fox sports, right?
[quote comment="86872"]Kang v. Silva =
Silva via 1 RD KO
Kang v. Hendo =
Hendo via 1 RD KO
Kang v. Franklin = Franklin via 2 RD TKO
Why would he waste his time? He is a good fighter, don’t get me wrong, but not even close to being in the same class as Hendo, Franklin or Silva. Get some MORE practice in different shows…maybe the WEC, but then you have Filho to deal with… hopeless[/quote]
Kang would take every one of those guys to the brink, if no clean their clocks, they’re good, but you obviously need to watch a couple of Kang fights. He’s an effin beast. And the only reason the UFC doesn’t offer these other fighters the $, is because when they do, there marketable UFC superstars get smashed. (i.e Liddel, Franklin) The look like douches right now with Rampage and Silva dominating the UFC, and these guys weren’t even the best of the best in their other organizations! Denis Kang would walk through anybody but the Top 3 or 4 middleweights on the planet, and he could still probably beat those guys on any given saturday.
[quote comment="90480"]Mama’s Boy, does Comcast still run that show now or no? I just recently switch from Dish Network to Comcast and I haven’t come across any PRIDE yet. I had all my favorite channels I watched programmed on my Dish Network reciever. What channel was that on, fox sports, right?[/quote]
Not sure if you will be back to read this post since the thread is old but I finally did see Denis Kang fight tonight on a Pride show and I have to say he looks pretty damn tough.
I do stand by what I said earlier:
[quote]If Kang is all that, then why hasn’t he gotten a title shot or at least fought a top contender? Look at Soko. He only has two Pride fights but both against upper classman. My guess is Kang is definitely a talented guy and they are slowly developing him. That doesn’t mean he is ready to take the belt right now though.[/quote]
BUT now I think he can be a top guy and I am perplexed why he hasn’t fought anyone tougher.
Denis Kang is a friend of mine. I knew him when he was fighting in local shows in Coquitlam. Denis Kang is a precise, intelligent, powerful dood. He’s competed in K1, Abu Dhabi, Pride. But because he hasn’t been seen posturing in “The Octagon” he’s unproven? Pshaaa.
hey puncher. were will he fight if he is ur so called friend. i hope to see him in affliction. the reason he has not fought anyone tougher is the whole kimbo slice sindrom. keep the record up so the day he does u sell out the dam place.. kang need to step up soon or he will miss the bus
[quote comment="90423"][quote comment="90377"][quote post="2518"]fight between Mike Ditka and Satan”? “DIIIKKKA!!”
I just find it strange that a man with Kang’s ability to tear through anyone wouldn’t have been given a match against a top contender yet or even a title shot. [/quote]
You admitadly said earlier that you never heard of Dennis Kang. That would mean that you never watched PRIDE. How can you come to such conclusions about a fighter when you never knew a thing about him until 10 minutes earlier. You act like PRIDE had no talent. If you don’t know PRID, how would you know Kang’s opponent. You are the type of fan that cried when Chuck Liddel lost and will continue to do so while PRIDE veterans take every belt in the UFC. It won’t be long.[/quote]
Some absurd statements here: “you’ve never seen a Pride fight”, “you act like Pride has no talent”. I’ve seen maybe 25 Pride fights between Comcast’s show or internet download. That doesn’t make me an expert on Pride but I didn’t say I am. 25 is certainly more than none. As far as acting like Pride has no talent, I’m always posting about how great Shogun, Fedor, Noguira, Josh Barnett, Coleman, Wanderlei Silva, and Cropcop are. Most would disagree with me on Barnett and Coleman.
I certainly never said Rampage sucks- he’s a bad dude. I am surprised and disappointed that Liddell lost to him again. A third match looks doubtful.
If you read my posts, I would say I’m definitely pro-Pride compared to most of the “UFC- or die” fans on this board.
I’ve submitted more verbage OBO Denis Kang than he’s worth so far. I hope he does become something. I look forward to seeing him fight somewhere.[/quote]
A non-casual fan should be able to recognize a fighters abilities whether you’re familiar with the person or not. If you are a real fan & you watch any of Kang’s fights, he may no become a personal favorite but you will definately walk away impressed.
FYI the PRIDE 183 lb devision was still pretty new & never able to fully develop before the UFC merger so of course you along with many others never had a chance to become familiar with the fighters. They held a tournament in 2005 to determine the contenders which resulted in the showdown between Bustamante & Hendo. That was when Hendo won the belt.
[rampage vs chuck an upset are you retarded did you not see the first fight rampage kicked his ass
nog, silva, rampage pride bitch