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	<title>Comments on: Video: The Chuck Liddell and Wanderlei Silva saga</title>
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		<title>By: Bulldog</title>
		<link>http://mmamania.com/2007/06/21/video-the-chuck-liddell-and-wanderlei-silva-saga/#comment-118012</link>
		<dc:creator>Bulldog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 14:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#62;He is kind of over rated to be honest.

You mixed up Fedor with Liddell. Liddell ran away from Pride after his sound loss for the lesser competition in UFC. Now he faced Pride guy again and... lost again. Coincidence? He is hyped through the roof while in reality he is just better than average. Rampage wasn't even close to become a champion in Pride. Think about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;He is kind of over rated to be honest.</p>
<p>You mixed up Fedor with Liddell. Liddell ran away from Pride after his sound loss for the lesser competition in UFC. Now he faced Pride guy again and&#8230; lost again. Coincidence? He is hyped through the roof while in reality he is just better than average. Rampage wasn&#8217;t even close to become a champion in Pride. Think about it.</p>
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		<title>By: 6_6_6</title>
		<link>http://mmamania.com/2007/06/21/video-the-chuck-liddell-and-wanderlei-silva-saga/#comment-96247</link>
		<dc:creator>6_6_6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 22:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ICE MAN Chuck Lidell will annhialate him and so he should the iceman is THE best fighter in the world with knock out power as a southpaw hes unstoppable!!!
(if anyone would like to chat about ufc online add me)

jfran666@hotmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ICE MAN Chuck Lidell will annhialate him and so he should the iceman is THE best fighter in the world with knock out power as a southpaw hes unstoppable!!!<br />
(if anyone would like to chat about ufc online add me)</p>
<p><a href="mailto:jfran666@hotmail.com">jfran666@hotmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: IceFan</title>
		<link>http://mmamania.com/2007/06/21/video-the-chuck-liddell-and-wanderlei-silva-saga/#comment-94747</link>
		<dc:creator>IceFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 02:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The axe murderer would get MURDERED BY THE ICEMAN</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The axe murderer would get MURDERED BY THE ICEMAN</p>
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		<title>By: IceFan</title>
		<link>http://mmamania.com/2007/06/21/video-the-chuck-liddell-and-wanderlei-silva-saga/#comment-94630</link>
		<dc:creator>IceFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 23:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuck Would Own Silva He Was In Bad Shape In His Fight V Rampage  
Guarantee Liddell Will Be Champ By The End Of The Year</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck Would Own Silva He Was In Bad Shape In His Fight V Rampage<br />
Guarantee Liddell Will Be Champ By The End Of The Year</p>
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		<title>By: venom</title>
		<link>http://mmamania.com/2007/06/21/video-the-chuck-liddell-and-wanderlei-silva-saga/#comment-93147</link>
		<dc:creator>venom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 00:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously Chuck doesn't matchup well with guys who get in there and gut it out. Thorowing heavy leather, Chucks counter punching won't work on The Axe Murderer. Chuck should use his wrestling if he's smart. Im sure his ego will get in the way of a smart gameplan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously Chuck doesn&#8217;t matchup well with guys who get in there and gut it out. Thorowing heavy leather, Chucks counter punching won&#8217;t work on The Axe Murderer. Chuck should use his wrestling if he&#8217;s smart. Im sure his ego will get in the way of a smart gameplan.</p>
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		<title>By: Mamas Boy</title>
		<link>http://mmamania.com/2007/06/21/video-the-chuck-liddell-and-wanderlei-silva-saga/#comment-86708</link>
		<dc:creator>Mamas Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="86239"][quote post="2492"]LOL, Chuck does NOT have better striking than Rampage. Watch Chuck vs Rampage 1, and Chuck vs Rampage 2 if you need further proof of that. [/quote]
I agree with you.  Like I said a hundred times, Rampage has Chuck's number. They can fight 10 more times, and Rampage would have 10 more win on his record.
[/quote]
Before the second fight I would say Liddell 7, Rampage 3. But with this second fight in the books, it's hard to disagree that Rampage has Chuck's number. I'll be surprised if there is ever a Jackson-Liddell III. They could market it as fight #2 Jackson just got lucky but- that would be pretty nasty.

If White thinks the interest is there, there will be a third fight. If Liddell were to finally win that one, there may be a fourth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment=&#8221;86239&#8243;][quote post=&#8221;2492&#8243;]LOL, Chuck does NOT have better striking than Rampage. Watch Chuck vs Rampage 1, and Chuck vs Rampage 2 if you need further proof of that. [/quote]<br />
I agree with you.  Like I said a hundred times, Rampage has Chuck&#8217;s number. They can fight 10 more times, and Rampage would have 10 more win on his record.<br />
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Before the second fight I would say Liddell 7, Rampage 3. But with this second fight in the books, it&#8217;s hard to disagree that Rampage has Chuck&#8217;s number. I&#8217;ll be surprised if there is ever a Jackson-Liddell III. They could market it as fight #2 Jackson just got lucky but- that would be pretty nasty.</p>
<p>If White thinks the interest is there, there will be a third fight. If Liddell were to finally win that one, there may be a fourth.</p>
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		<title>By: Mamas Boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mamas Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="86485"][quote comment="86250"]You are so wrong. This is a case of lightning striking twice. If Chuck and Rampage fought 10 times, I see 7 of those going to Chuck. It's close but Liddell is a way better striker.[/quote]
So your argument is he got lucky in destroying Chuck twice? Take the blinders off and look at the fights objectively.

First fight: Chuck gets out-struck big time the entire fight, before getting pummeled until the towel is thrown in. 

Second fight: Rampage stalks Chuck, waiting for counters. Chuck throws a body shot, leaves his hands down at his waist, and gets hit right on the button. 

And Chuck hasn't improved that much since 2003. The only thing is his footwork is better against grapplers. [/quote]
I'm not saying the first fight was luck. I like the Iceman but I'm not an apologist for him. First fight was a legitimate "ass whoopin'". It was the second round of a Pride tournament which is different and maybe Liddell gassed a bit. Liddell put away Alistair Overeem fairly easily in the first round so that shouldn't have affected him that much. And Rampage had to have fought also (I don't know who). The circumstances were not typical of the UFC but it stands as an untarnished victory for Rampage.

Second fight, maybe Liddell was a bit psyched out or something. Noone predicted Rampage by first round standup KO. GNP is more Rampage's style. He threw that thing out there and it landed- hard. Totally unexpected like Gonzaga chopping down Crocop.

Is Matt Serra a better striker than GSP? Based on their fight, the answer is yes. But look at all their fights and you should conclude otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment=&#8221;86485&#8243;][quote comment=&#8221;86250&#8243;]You are so wrong. This is a case of lightning striking twice. If Chuck and Rampage fought 10 times, I see 7 of those going to Chuck. It&#8217;s close but Liddell is a way better striker.[/quote]<br />
So your argument is he got lucky in destroying Chuck twice? Take the blinders off and look at the fights objectively.</p>
<p>First fight: Chuck gets out-struck big time the entire fight, before getting pummeled until the towel is thrown in. </p>
<p>Second fight: Rampage stalks Chuck, waiting for counters. Chuck throws a body shot, leaves his hands down at his waist, and gets hit right on the button. </p>
<p>And Chuck hasn&#8217;t improved that much since 2003. The only thing is his footwork is better against grapplers. [/quote]<br />
I&#8217;m not saying the first fight was luck. I like the Iceman but I&#8217;m not an apologist for him. First fight was a legitimate &#8220;ass whoopin&#8217;&#8221;. It was the second round of a Pride tournament which is different and maybe Liddell gassed a bit. Liddell put away Alistair Overeem fairly easily in the first round so that shouldn&#8217;t have affected him that much. And Rampage had to have fought also (I don&#8217;t know who). The circumstances were not typical of the UFC but it stands as an untarnished victory for Rampage.</p>
<p>Second fight, maybe Liddell was a bit psyched out or something. Noone predicted Rampage by first round standup KO. GNP is more Rampage&#8217;s style. He threw that thing out there and it landed- hard. Totally unexpected like Gonzaga chopping down Crocop.</p>
<p>Is Matt Serra a better striker than GSP? Based on their fight, the answer is yes. But look at all their fights and you should conclude otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: DanaBlk</title>
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		<dc:creator>DanaBlk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think they payed Chuck to take a dive against Rampage, I mean it still does not make much sense how he lost. Shot to the body and then he gets caught. Dana told Chuck to loose so he can fight Silva, that is only way to bring Silva to UFC. I mean all the fans wanted to see Silva vs Liddell but it would not be possible until Chuck would have to loose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think they payed Chuck to take a dive against Rampage, I mean it still does not make much sense how he lost. Shot to the body and then he gets caught. Dana told Chuck to loose so he can fight Silva, that is only way to bring Silva to UFC. I mean all the fans wanted to see Silva vs Liddell but it would not be possible until Chuck would have to loose.</p>
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		<title>By: bu11dog</title>
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		<dc:creator>bu11dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That music for the video was cool as hell.  Anyone know where that came from?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That music for the video was cool as hell.  Anyone know where that came from?</p>
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		<title>By: Soups</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soups</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it just me, or is this video playing automatically for everyone? Is there any way to keep it from playing every time I visit the site?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it just me, or is this video playing automatically for everyone? Is there any way to keep it from playing every time I visit the site?</p>
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