– Chuck Liddell recently told the Los Angeles Times that he wanted to fight at UFC 76 in Anaheim, Calif., on September 22, but UFC President Dana White wants it to be sometime in October or November. It is widely speculated that his next opponent will be Wanderlei Silva, who seems to have dedicated a good portion of his official Web site to the highly anticipated showdown (including this video). Nothing is official at this time.

June 21st, 2007    

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Comment by bigdiesel
2007-06-21 09:10:58

Even though I still think THE ICEMAN is 1 of my top 5 fighters in the world,THE AXE MURDERER is going to kill him.

 
Comment by bigdiesel
2007-06-21 09:21:18

[quote comment=”85905″]Even though I still think THE ICEMAN is 1 of my top 5 fighters in the world,THE AXE MURDERER is going to kill him.[/quote]
MY TOP 5 IS.

1.RANDY COUTURE
2.QUINTON JACKSON
3.FEDOR EMELIANENKO
4.DAN HENDERSON
5.CHUCK LIDDELL

 
Comment by Fuzz203
2007-06-21 09:23:39

Thanks for posting this. I thought Silva was taking the rest of 2007 off? This hould be a good one !!!

 
Comment by Matt
2007-06-21 09:23:49

In my opinion, chucks striking is far better than Wandys.. YES, FAR better. Wandy has those knees though, if Chuck can avoid a knee to the face, he’s good to go and will have no trouble with Wandy. That being said, it seems lately that the punchers chance is more effective than well rounded skill. So who knows what will happen.

 
Comment by Brian
2007-06-21 09:25:04

A non juiced up Wandy VS. a hungry Iceman….I’ll take the ICE man.

 
Comment by bigdiesel
2007-06-21 09:27:16

They should replace Tito Ortiz with SHOGUN RUA to fight Rashard Evans. TITO SUCKS.

 
Comment by bigdiesel
2007-06-21 09:35:36

FEDOR IS SCARED TO FIGHT RANDY.

 
Comment by ViolentMike
2007-06-21 09:53:09

Wanderlei Silva is a bad, bad man. When he walks into the ring/octagon for a fight, he isn’t trying to defeat his opponent, he is trying to MURDER them. Yes he is coming off of two losses, but he was released from the hospital like a day before the fight with Henderson, and he lost to CroCop who is a HeavyWeight. The UFC does not allow fighters to fight ouside of thier weight class, so we will never know what would happen if CroCop fought Chuck. This is going to be SUCH A GREAT FIGHT. They literally don’t even need to have any other fights on the card, and I would gladly pay $100 to see this one and only fight.

[quote post=”2492″]In my opinion, chucks striking is far better than Wandys.. YES, FAR better. Wandy has those knees though, if Chuck can avoid a knee to the face, he’s good to go and will have no trouble with Wandy.[/quote]

Chuck also had much better striking the Rampage and look what happend there.

 
Comment by Yohnstoppable
2007-06-21 09:55:37

[quote comment=”85942″]Chuck also had much better striking the Rampage and look what happend there.[/quote]

LOL, Chuck does NOT have better striking than Rampage. Watch Chuck vs Rampage 1, and Chuck vs Rampage 2 if you need further proof of that.

 
Comment by Stokes24
2007-06-21 09:56:36

october??? how sick would it be to see chuck vs wandy in montreal!!!! lets get that shit going

 
Comment by MMA Dude
2007-06-21 10:07:30

sorry stokes, im sure this one is happening in the US, probably LV..Wandy did say that he wanted to take 2007 off, and Chuck said he wanted to be back ASAP..so who knows when this will happen..i think both have a chance of KOing the other, it will be one of those fights where I wont sit down the whole time..they will both be hungry for a win, in the most anticipated and talked about fight in mma history, its gonna be sick as shit

 
Comment by reagan
2007-06-21 10:15:35

lol ! Silva thinking Chuck is running from him. PRIDE did to Silva what they did with Tito for years….They kept the threat away. Chuck will ko Silva

 
Comment by BLOodyMEss
2007-06-21 10:20:16

[quote comment=”85969″]lol ! Silva thinking Chuck is running from him. PRIDE did to Silva what they did with Tito for years….They kept the threat away. Chuck will ko Silva[/quote]

yup

 
Comment by adam
2007-06-21 10:49:23

Wanderlei silva is a crazy motherfucker and he doesnt care about getting hit honestley i think chuck is a little scared to get hit thats what it looked like against rampage just watch the video and u can see how thay fight differently and i dont think chuck will be able to handle it

 
Comment by Mamas Boy
2007-06-21 11:34:32

[quote comment=”85945″][quote comment=”85942″]Chuck also had much better striking the Rampage and look what happend there.[/quote]

LOL, Chuck does NOT have better striking than Rampage. Watch Chuck vs Rampage 1, and Chuck vs Rampage 2 if you need further proof of that.[/quote]
Watch Wanderlei vs Rampage #1 or Wanderlei vs Rampage #2 if you want to see Rampage get his ass beat bad. Silva almost literally kicked him out of the ring in the second one.

 
Comment by Jason
2007-06-21 11:35:06

Chuck is my favorite fighter, but this fight has me a lot nervous. Silva has a smothering type of style with his punches. That could be good and bad for Chuck. If Chuck is able to utilize his footwork and keep Silva at the end of his jab, he will catch him. Chuck is about three inches taller than Silva and has a long reach, which could proved to be trouble for Silva. However with Chuck just getting dropped by Rampage, he may be a little reluctant to engage with Silva and Silva may bulldog him with punches and catch him like Rampage did. One thing is for sure is that Chuck needs to get his damn hands up. Either way I cannot wait for this fight.

 
Comment by Mamas Boy
2007-06-21 11:35:22

[quote comment=”85987″][quote comment=”85928″]FEDOR IS SCARED TO FIGHT RANDY.[/quote]

Emelianenko is #1 overall.

 
Comment by Mamas Boy
2007-06-21 11:44:53

( Can you change that video above to just an image people can click on? It’s killing my slow computer.)

I like both Chuck and Wanderlei so this is one of those fights where I just hope neither guy gets seriously hurt. I’m 50-50 on this one, no favorite.

 
Comment by Yohnstoppable
2007-06-21 12:14:03

[quote comment=”86028″][quote comment=”85945″][quote comment=”85942″]Chuck also had much better striking the Rampage and look what happend there.[/quote]

LOL, Chuck does NOT have better striking than Rampage. Watch Chuck vs Rampage 1, and Chuck vs Rampage 2 if you need further proof of that.[/quote]
Watch Wanderlei vs Rampage #1 or Wanderlei vs Rampage #2 if you want to see Rampage get his ass beat bad. Silva almost literally kicked him out of the ring in the second one.[/quote]

How does that have anything to do with Chuck vs Rampage? Rampage destroying Chuck twice in pure standup fights means Rampage is the better striker. If you are trying to say Silva is better than Rampage as a striker, I can agree to that(Rampage needs to work on his Thai boxing), but that still isn’t relevant to what I said.

Why did you quote me again?

 
Comment by Yohnstoppable
2007-06-21 12:20:17

[quote comment=”86030″]Chuck is my favorite fighter, but this fight has me a lot nervous. Silva has a smothering type of style with his punches. That could be good and bad for Chuck. If Chuck is able to utilize his footwork and keep Silva at the end of his jab, he will catch him. Chuck is about three inches taller than Silva and has a long reach, which could proved to be trouble for Silva. However with Chuck just getting dropped by Rampage, he may be a little reluctant to engage with Silva and Silva may bulldog him with punches and catch him like Rampage did. One thing is for sure is that Chuck needs to get his damn hands up. Either way I cannot wait for this fight.[/quote]

I think a lot of it depends on how smart Silva fights. If he just goes balls out after Chuck, he can definitely get caught with a counter right hand. I don’t think either will be afraid to engage, really. Both have tough losses earlier in their careers(Chuck to Couture/Rampage, Silva to Ortize/Belfort), and they each came back with huge winning streaks.

I think Silva will win, but Chuck’s counter-punching style could give him problems. Either way, I don’t see this fight going the distance.

 
Comment by GasManShad
2007-06-21 12:24:54

[quote comment=”86031″][quote comment=”85987″][quote comment=”85928″]FEDOR IS SCARED TO FIGHT RANDY.[/quote]

Emelianenko is #1 overall.[/quote]
OVERRATED

 
Comment by Matt
2007-06-21 12:26:33

[quote comment=”85945″][quote comment=”85942″]Chuck also had much better striking the Rampage and look what happend there.[/quote]

LOL, Chuck does NOT have better striking than Rampage. Watch Chuck vs Rampage 1, and Chuck vs Rampage 2 if you need further proof of that.[/quote]

I think Chucks striking is way better than Rampages as well. Rampage just has a style that is complimentary to Chucks. He leaves little room for effective counterstriking cause he ducks down and charges.

To claim that Rampage won the second fight because of his striking ability is nonsense. He landed a wild punch, he wasn’t even aiming where chuck was, it was a looping punch that LUCKILY landed in the right spot. Chucks good footwork screwed him over on that one.

 
Comment by Yohnstoppable
2007-06-21 12:31:23

[quote comment=”86074″][quote comment=”86031″][quote comment=”85987″][quote comment=”85928″]FEDOR IS SCARED TO FIGHT RANDY.[/quote]

Emelianenko is #1 overall.[/quote]
OVERRATED[/quote]

Anyone who calls Fedor overrated has no clue about mma. No other heavyweight has nearly the resume he has over his career.

I don’t get where this sudden backlash against Fedor is coming from. Oh wait, nevermind. I forgot about The Ultimate Fighter…

 
Comment by Freddy
2007-06-21 12:37:31

Two words, Chute Boxe. There was a video on here with the Cute Boxe guys on it, they’re deadly. Wiki Chute Boxe and see who fights for this team, it’s stupid. Current and former champs from both Pride and UFC. The top guys in the world training togeter getting better together, pushing each other harder and harder.

Chuck should watch out, in the words of Joe Rogan, Wanderlei is no joke, the guy is a champion.

 
Comment by c-war
2007-06-21 12:39:01

[quote comment=”86086″][quote comment=”86074″][quote comment=”86031″][quote comment=”85987″][quote comment=”85928″]FEDOR IS SCARED TO FIGHT RANDY.[/quote]

Emelianenko is #1 overall.[/quote]
OVERRATED[/quote]

Anyone who calls Fedor overrated has no clue about mma. No other heavyweight has nearly the resume he has over his career.

I don’t get where this sudden backlash against Fedor is coming from. Oh wait, nevermind. I forgot about The Ultimate Fighter…[/quote]
He is kind of over rated to be honest.

 
Comment by c-war
2007-06-21 12:40:22

wheres the pause and play button on this video? It downloaded itself and keeps shuttering through the video.

 
Comment by Matt
2007-06-21 12:45:52

[quote comment=”86093″][quote comment=”86086″][quote comment=”86074″][quote comment=”86031″][quote comment=”85987″][quote comment=”85928″]FEDOR IS SCARED TO FIGHT RANDY.[/quote]

Emelianenko is #1 overall.[/quote]
OVERRATED[/quote]

Anyone who calls Fedor overrated has no clue about mma. No other heavyweight has nearly the resume he has over his career.

I don’t get where this sudden backlash against Fedor is coming from. Oh wait, nevermind. I forgot about The Ultimate Fighter…[/quote]
He is kind of over rated to be honest.[/quote]

Fedor is pretty dominant. If he stays in Bodog he is just an idiot though, way more money to be made in UFC, not to mention, all the competition is in the UFC.

Fedor would trample over anyone in the Heavyweight division with the exception of MAYBE “Big Nog”. If Gonzaga is everything they want him to be, he may be a force as well.

 
Comment by YouTapped
2007-06-21 12:59:53

[quote comment=”86086″]
Anyone who calls Fedor overrated has no clue about mma. No other heavyweight has nearly the resume he has over his career.

I don’t get where this sudden backlash against Fedor is coming from. Oh wait, nevermind. I forgot about The Ultimate Fighter…[/quote]

1

 
Comment by Mahde
2007-06-21 13:04:42

[quote comment=”85912″][quote comment=”85905″]Even though I still think THE ICEMAN is 1 of my top 5 fighters in the world,THE AXE MURDERER is going to kill him.[/quote]
MY TOP 5 IS.

1.RANDY COUTURE
2.QUINTON JACKSON
3.FEDOR EMELIANENKO
4.DAN HENDERSON
5.CHUCK LIDDELL[/quote]

I dont see how you can rank Jackson over Silva. Silva beat him decisevly in two seperate bouts.

 
Comment by Mahde
2007-06-21 13:08:56

[quote comment=”86098″]Fedor would trample over anyone in the Heavyweight division with the exception of MAYBE “Big Nog”. If Gonzaga is everything they want him to be, he may be a force as well.[/quote]

I would not make “Big Nog” the most likely exception. Fedor “trampled” him in their last fight. Couture is the only possible exception because I think he is the only one keen enough to find Fedor’s weakness, if one even exists.

 
Comment by mcanena
2007-06-21 13:27:29

Chuck is my number one fighter and I think that Wandy has gained some confidence watching Rampage beat Chuck for the second time.I think both times Chuck fought Rampage he has took him lightly even Page says that himself,theres that and the fact that Rampages style is an awkward one for Chuck to deal with.I have a feeling that Wandy thinks that because he beat Rampage twice that he is gonna walk through Chuck but I dont see that happening,so long as Chuck gets himself focused and trains hard.
The way Wandy comes at fighters makes him perfect for Chuck coz I know Chuck has the better chin and when Wandy comes at him and the fists start flying its gonna be Wandy who comes off worse,KO worse.The way Wandy fights is exactly what Chuck wants,he always says “if you come after me and exchange then you get knocked out”.
Wandy will not be able to take Chuck down,and the way I see it Chucks only real problem in this fight will be avoiding those knees in the clinch coz Rampage also has a good chin and look what happened to him.
So long as Chuck trains right for this fight I dont see him loosing it.
I think Chucks gonna be hungrier then ever and its gonna be a stunning KO before the end of the second round.

 
Comment by mcanena
2007-06-21 13:31:22

[quote comment=”86114″][quote comment=”85912″][quote comment=”85905″]Even though I still think THE ICEMAN is 1 of my top 5 fighters in the world,THE AXE MURDERER is going to kill him.[/quote]
MY TOP 5 IS.

1.RANDY COUTURE
2.QUINTON JACKSON
3.FEDOR EMELIANENKO
4.DAN HENDERSON
5.CHUCK LIDDELL[/quote]

I dont see how you can rank Jackson over Silva. Silva beat him decisevly in two seperate bouts.[/quote]

He says they are his favourite,not the top 5 fighters,his top 5 fighters

 
Comment by Yohnstoppable
2007-06-21 15:12:16

[quote comment=”86078″][quote comment=”85945″][quote comment=”85942″]Chuck also had much better striking the Rampage and look what happend there.[/quote]

LOL, Chuck does NOT have better striking than Rampage. Watch Chuck vs Rampage 1, and Chuck vs Rampage 2 if you need further proof of that.[/quote]

I think Chucks striking is way better than Rampages as well. Rampage just has a style that is complimentary to Chucks. He leaves little room for effective counterstriking cause he ducks down and charges.

To claim that Rampage won the second fight because of his striking ability is nonsense. He landed a wild punch, he wasn’t even aiming where chuck was, it was a looping punch that LUCKILY landed in the right spot. Chucks good footwork screwed him over on that one.[/quote]

It wasn’t a lucky punch. He landed a ton of these so called “lucky punches” in their first meeting, which was a worse beatdown than the rematch. Face it, Chuck throw a poorly planned body shot, and Rampage countered it perfectly.

 
Comment by ViolentMike
2007-06-21 15:39:27

[quote post=”2492″]LOL, Chuck does NOT have better striking than Rampage. Watch Chuck vs Rampage 1, and Chuck vs Rampage 2 if you need further proof of that. [/quote]

I agree with you. Like I said a hundred times, Rampage has Chuck’s number. They can fight 10 more times, and Rampage would have 10 more win on his record.

But you are telling me that 6 months ago that the majority of MMA fans when asked who is the best striker at 205, that the overwhelming response would be Quinton Jackson. NO WAY. Not a single person would name Rampage. I guarantee you that 80% of the people on this site would have said Chuck, and the rest would say Wandy, or Shogun.

 
Comment by ViolentMike
2007-06-21 15:43:43

[quote post=”2492″]Chuck also had much better striking the Rampage and look what happend there.
LOL, Chuck does NOT have better striking than Rampage. Watch Chuck vs Rampage 1, and Chuck vs Rampage 2 if you need further proof of that.
I think Chucks striking is way better than Rampages as well. Rampage just has a style that is complimentary to Chucks. He leaves little room for effective counterstriking cause he ducks down and charges. [/quote]

Thank you Matt. But I would have to disagree with you saying that it was a lucky punch that knocked Chuck to the ground. There was absolutely zero luck involved with that perfect counter punch to Chuck’s wild body shot.

 
Comment by Mamas Boy
2007-06-21 15:46:59

[quote comment=”86078″][quote comment=”85945″][quote comment=”85942″]Chuck also had much better striking the Rampage and look what happend there.[/quote]
LOL, Chuck does NOT have better striking than Rampage. Watch Chuck vs Rampage 1, and Chuck vs Rampage 2 if you need further proof of that.[/quote]
I think Chucks striking is way better than Rampages as well. Rampage just has a style that is complimentary to Chucks. He leaves little room for effective counterstriking cause he ducks down and charges.
To claim that Rampage won the second fight because of his striking ability is nonsense. He landed a wild punch, he wasn’t even aiming where chuck was, it was a looping punch that LUCKILY landed in the right spot. Chucks good footwork screwed him over on that one.[/quote]
Exactamente!

 
Comment by Mamas Boy
2007-06-21 15:50:26

[quote comment=”86209″][quote comment=”86078″][quote comment=”85945″][quote comment=”85942″]Chuck also had much better striking the Rampage and look what happend there.[/quote]

LOL, Chuck does NOT have better striking than Rampage. Watch Chuck vs Rampage 1, and Chuck vs Rampage 2 if you need further proof of that.[/quote]

I think Chucks striking is way better than Rampages as well. Rampage just has a style that is complimentary to Chucks. He leaves little room for effective counterstriking cause he ducks down and charges.

To claim that Rampage won the second fight because of his striking ability is nonsense. He landed a wild punch, he wasn’t even aiming where chuck was, it was a looping punch that LUCKILY landed in the right spot. Chucks good footwork screwed him over on that one.[/quote]

It wasn’t a lucky punch. He landed a ton of these so called “lucky punches” in their first meeting, which was a worse beatdown than the rematch. Face it, Chuck throw a poorly planned body shot, and Rampage countered it perfectly.[/quote]
You are so wrong. This is a case of lightning striking twice. If Chuck and Rampage fought 10 times, I see 7 of those going to Chuck. It’s close but Liddell is a way better striker.

 
Comment by Mamas Boy
2007-06-21 16:03:54

[quote]
How does that have anything to do with Chuck vs Rampage? Rampage destroying Chuck twice in pure standup fights means Rampage is the better striker. If you are trying to say Silva is better than Rampage as a striker, I can agree to that(Rampage needs to work on his Thai boxing), but that still isn’t relevant to what I said.

Why did you quote me again?[/quote]
Sorry, the nested quotes are hard to trim down.

Okay, you are saying Rampage is a better striker than Liddell. In their two head-to-head fights, yes, I agree. It certainly turned out that way. But that’s kind of a very narrow, lawyer-ish statement. Overall though? No way. Watch all their fights. Liddell has hammered out almost everyone. Rampage has outstruck some guys like Randleman and Marvin the martian… but watch Shogun beat the crap out of him (not sure I want to watch that one again). Watch Silva smack him around. Rampage is not a top striker.

Liddell-Jackson II wasn’t much of a fight and I would say that even if it were Liddell catching Jackson with a hook and ending it early. The first fight was real but it was also 4 years ago. Liddell also lost to Jeremy Horn back in the dark ages. He’s improved since 2003.

 
Comment by grembone
2007-06-21 16:19:00

Man he has been watching too much WWF or WWE. I can tell. I was surprise that the arena corner hall didn’t explode with a big flash and then a shot of Chuck running out to get in the ring with him.

Need the microphone hype…

 
Comment by WADZ
2007-06-21 16:20:26

If Liddell fights his fight, he’ll take Sylva in what should be a tough fight. If he fights the way fought Rampage (or Couture/Liddell 1) he’ll be on a two fight losing streak.

Liddell’s the man…hope to see him back with the title before his time runs out. With the pace that the UFC is going, it’ll be years before he see’s his shot at the belt. Just look at the time between Serra’s fights f…ing ridiculous…

 
Comment by sooper822
2007-06-21 16:46:30

man i love both these guys. i dont really care who wins. i just hope its a classic fight with both of them having some time to showcase their talents. i will feel bad for whoever loses this one.

 
Comment by Fred
2007-06-21 16:50:37

[quote comment=”85915″]In my opinion, chucks striking is far better than Wandys.. YES, FAR better. Wandy has those knees though, if Chuck can avoid a knee to the face, he’s good to go and will have no trouble with Wandy. That being said, it seems lately that the punchers chance is more effective than well rounded skill. So who knows what will happen.[/quote]
WRONG!
Chuck’s striking is actually very unorthodox. He throws a lot of low-percentage shots. Fortunately for Chuck, when he connects, he does damage. As I’m sure you know, he routinely carries his hands low. Chuck’s body shot against Rampage that got the Iceman KO’ed is a punch he has thrown all the time, despite his coach’s repeated warning that that particular punch would cost him one day. Also, Chuck doesn’t use kicks and knees effectively, even though he has a valid kickboxing background.

Chuck is not a great striker by any standard you choose to measure: boxing, kickboxing, Muay Thai. He is merely a sharp, accurate counterpuncher who’s not afraid to mix it up. The formula worked against grapplers with worse striking than Chuck’s. Rampage exposed Chuck, and every competent striker from here on in will expose Chuck even more.

 
Comment by Stafo
2007-06-21 18:02:14

I can’t wit for this match up to finally go down. Please just happen or ready. I want it to go down in Anaheim so I can see this one go down live. I’m praying for 76

 
Comment by broncos12405
2007-06-21 18:08:44

Chuck is goin to put a beatdown on wandy’s head. He’s still the greates LHW ever

 
Comment by broncos12405
2007-06-21 18:10:50

And for the record chuck has beaten great strikers before. Anybody reme,ber Vitor Belfort and Alistair Overeem

 
Comment by nathan
2007-06-21 20:02:18

What an idiot.

 
Comment by liukangstoupee
2007-06-21 23:46:39

[quote comment=”86074″][quote comment=”86031″][quote comment=”85987″][quote comment=”85928″]FEDOR IS SCARED TO FIGHT RANDY.[/quote]

Emelianenko is #1 overall.[/quote]
OVERRATED[/quote]

Fedor is undeniably the number one fighter in the world hands down. EVERY major MMA publication or knowledgable MMA site lists him at the top, with no exceptions.

Even Randy admits he’s the best, you think you know more than Randy about his level of competition?

Fedor Overrated? I think not. He’s just THAT good.

 
Comment by liukangstoupee
2007-06-22 00:01:39

Chuck vs. Wandy is just a great match. classic example of aggressive striking vs. counter punching. This match can go either way for both fighters and Although I have to say Wanderlei is a better fighter Chuck has all the tools to stop Wandy.

Wandy is the clasic example of an excellent and aggressive striker with a total package of speed, power and conditioning. He’s at his best when he engages aggressively and overwhelm his opponents. Chuck is the patient and methodical counter puncher who likes to position himself for ideal counter punches that connect with high accuracy and delivers a lot of pain.

When these two lock up, I can say the first exchange can easily set the tone for the rest of the fight. If Wandy moves in can works on liddell’s body or overwhelms him with his aggressive style, he can easily walk out with a quick victory. If Chuck can move around and land someof his devastating counter punches he can take silva off his aggressive game or knock him out altogether. Its all about who can set the pace of their fight. The slower the pace of the match, the more advantage Chuck has.

Silva does not like the patient slow fights, and in his recent losses to Cro Cop and Henderson both guys showed that if Wandy can’t overwhelm you, he’ll eventually leave an opening for his opponents to punish him. If Chuck can move around well and wait for an opening, it can end like the Henderson fight.

If I had to pick though, I’m picking Silva because IMO he is the better all round fighter. but I won’t be wagering any money because it’s such an unpredictable fight.

 
Comment by Yohnstoppable
2007-06-22 01:40:34

[quote comment=”86250″]You are so wrong. This is a case of lightning striking twice. If Chuck and Rampage fought 10 times, I see 7 of those going to Chuck. It’s close but Liddell is a way better striker.[/quote]

So your argument is he got lucky in destroying Chuck twice? Take the blinders off and look at the fights objectively.

First fight: Chuck gets out-struck big time the entire fight, before getting pummeled until the towel is thrown in. It wasn’t luck, nor was it Chuck taking Rampage lightly. I’ve also heard he was lazy and didn’t prepare, which is plain retarded. I’m sure he came that night after training for 2 weeks, expecting to beat Rampage and Silva on the same night…

Second fight: Rampage stalks Chuck, waiting for counters. Chuck throws a body shot, leaves his hands down at his waist, and gets hit right on the button. Before that, it was pretty uneventful. Nothing to suggest it was a lucky punch. If anything, it showed Chuck doesn’t know how to keep his hands up, or throw a decent opener

And Chuck hasn’t improved that much since 2003. The only thing is his footwork is better against grapplers. Rampage isn’t a pure grappler, so that is null and void vs him. If anything, Rampage has improved far more than Chuck has in the past few years. The only difference is Chuck has fought nothing but grapplers, which have inflated his striking. Once he fought a good striker, he got KTFO

Chuck is not the best striker in mma like Dana would have you believe. Nor is he the best striker at 205. He is a good striker, don’t get me wrong. But his success has come from the fact he has the best takedown defense in mma.

 
Comment by Woody
2007-06-22 02:56:48

if dana wants them to fight in november and ufc should come to cincinnati in november does that mean ohio gets another great card liddel and silva and franklin and silva that would be great

 
Comment by Luppers
2007-06-22 08:12:29

Who is Chuck gonna react coming off of the crack or whatever he is/was on?
Wandi should destroy him in this fight.

 
Comment by Soups
2007-06-22 10:31:49

Is it just me, or is this video playing automatically for everyone? Is there any way to keep it from playing every time I visit the site?

 
Comment by bu11dog
2007-06-22 11:11:12

That music for the video was cool as hell. Anyone know where that came from?

 
Comment by DanaBlk
2007-06-22 12:17:18

I think they payed Chuck to take a dive against Rampage, I mean it still does not make much sense how he lost. Shot to the body and then he gets caught. Dana told Chuck to loose so he can fight Silva, that is only way to bring Silva to UFC. I mean all the fans wanted to see Silva vs Liddell but it would not be possible until Chuck would have to loose.

 
Comment by Mamas Boy
2007-06-22 12:24:37

[quote comment=”86485″][quote comment=”86250″]You are so wrong. This is a case of lightning striking twice. If Chuck and Rampage fought 10 times, I see 7 of those going to Chuck. It’s close but Liddell is a way better striker.[/quote]
So your argument is he got lucky in destroying Chuck twice? Take the blinders off and look at the fights objectively.

First fight: Chuck gets out-struck big time the entire fight, before getting pummeled until the towel is thrown in.

Second fight: Rampage stalks Chuck, waiting for counters. Chuck throws a body shot, leaves his hands down at his waist, and gets hit right on the button.

And Chuck hasn’t improved that much since 2003. The only thing is his footwork is better against grapplers. [/quote]
I’m not saying the first fight was luck. I like the Iceman but I’m not an apologist for him. First fight was a legitimate “ass whoopin’”. It was the second round of a Pride tournament which is different and maybe Liddell gassed a bit. Liddell put away Alistair Overeem fairly easily in the first round so that shouldn’t have affected him that much. And Rampage had to have fought also (I don’t know who). The circumstances were not typical of the UFC but it stands as an untarnished victory for Rampage.

Second fight, maybe Liddell was a bit psyched out or something. Noone predicted Rampage by first round standup KO. GNP is more Rampage’s style. He threw that thing out there and it landed- hard. Totally unexpected like Gonzaga chopping down Crocop.

Is Matt Serra a better striker than GSP? Based on their fight, the answer is yes. But look at all their fights and you should conclude otherwise.

 
Comment by Mamas Boy
2007-06-22 12:31:53

[quote comment=”86239″][quote post=”2492″]LOL, Chuck does NOT have better striking than Rampage. Watch Chuck vs Rampage 1, and Chuck vs Rampage 2 if you need further proof of that. [/quote]
I agree with you. Like I said a hundred times, Rampage has Chuck’s number. They can fight 10 more times, and Rampage would have 10 more win on his record.
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Before the second fight I would say Liddell 7, Rampage 3. But with this second fight in the books, it’s hard to disagree that Rampage has Chuck’s number. I’ll be surprised if there is ever a Jackson-Liddell III. They could market it as fight #2 Jackson just got lucky but- that would be pretty nasty.

If White thinks the interest is there, there will be a third fight. If Liddell were to finally win that one, there may be a fourth.

 
Comment by venom
2007-06-28 19:02:03

Obviously Chuck doesn’t matchup well with guys who get in there and gut it out. Thorowing heavy leather, Chucks counter punching won’t work on The Axe Murderer. Chuck should use his wrestling if he’s smart. Im sure his ego will get in the way of a smart gameplan.

 
Comment by IceFan
2007-06-30 18:08:53

Chuck Would Own Silva He Was In Bad Shape In His Fight V Rampage
Guarantee Liddell Will Be Champ By The End Of The Year

 
Comment by IceFan
2007-06-30 21:01:04

The axe murderer would get MURDERED BY THE ICEMAN

 
Comment by 6_6_6
2007-07-02 17:04:00

The ICE MAN Chuck Lidell will annhialate him and so he should the iceman is THE best fighter in the world with knock out power as a southpaw hes unstoppable!!!
(if anyone would like to chat about ufc online add me)

jfran666@hotmail.com

 
Comment by Bulldog
2007-08-03 09:04:07

>He is kind of over rated to be honest.

You mixed up Fedor with Liddell. Liddell ran away from Pride after his sound loss for the lesser competition in UFC. Now he faced Pride guy again and… lost again. Coincidence? He is hyped through the roof while in reality he is just better than average. Rampage wasn’t even close to become a champion in Pride. Think about it.

 
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