
The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 3 light heavyweight winner Michael Bisping will take on Matt Hamill at UFC 75, according to Ticketmaster.com.
The two were supposed to meet in the semifinals during that season.
However, Hamill was hospitalized after his unanimous decision win over Mike Nickels. He was forced to withdraw from his next bout — and a date with Bisping in the Octagon — because of the injury.
Here’s the snip from Ticketmaster.com:
“… The full [UFC 75] card is yet to be confirmed, however one fight has been signed that has the entire country’s attention - Great Britain’s own Michael ‘The Count’ Bisping will face Matt ‘The Hammer’ Hamill in a rematch from The Ultimate Fighter 3. This will be the toughest challenge that Bisping has faced yet.”
Hamill called out Bisping after his win over Rex Holman at UFC 68 in March. Bisping responded to the “TUF 3 dropout” in kind.
Clearly, there will be some tension at the O2 Arena on September 8 in London, England.
Let’s hope it’s a better fight than the trash talking/signing.
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WOw! I’m looking forward to this fight. I thought Bisping was going to get an easy fight, but this isn’t an easy fight. I’ll be cheering for Hamill, but I think Bisping will win. UFC 75 is shaping up to be a solid PPV. Does anyone know if the event is going to be tape delayed?
I’m looking forward to seeing Danny Abbadi take him sandwiches between rounds.
I want to see this fight, and im a big fan of both so i dont care who wins.. but i can see myself leaning towards bisping just because i want him to go on and get a better oppoent. Im not takin anything from Hamill, hes great but still just a ufc fight nite guy.. Bisping is a pay per view worthy fighter.. and should be fighting higher quality guys then matt hamill right now.
I’m a Bisping fan, I hope he does good.
[quote comment=”78657″]I’m looking forward to seeing Danny Abbadi take him sandwiches between rounds.[/quote]
HAHAHA! Hilarious.
Bisping is going to pick him apart. Didnt Matt Hamill complain when Bisping hit him to hard in a training session? I like Hamill and have alot of respect for him. I know its great for a handicapped fighter to compete at this level, but do you really see Matt Hamill going anywhere in the 205 lb class? I know I dont. Bisping is going to overwhelm him with a 1st rd TKO.
[quote comment=”78657″]I’m looking forward to seeing Danny Abbadi take him sandwiches between rounds.[/quote]
That is one of the funniest things I have ever heard…
Bisping = good fighter, great overall game.
Hamill = amazing wrestler, amazing strength, amazing ground game…
I always bet on the wrestler, take down mode will win a decision. Bisping if he can unload on Hammill, but Im going with Hamill…
i dont see why everyone is excited. its no way on planet earth that matt hamill will win unless he drastically upgraded his striking. not a huge bisping fan just a realist. i know someone out there gotta feel me??
[quote comment=”78680″]i dont see why everyone is excited. its no way on planet earth that matt hamill will win unless he drastically upgraded his striking. not a huge bisping fan just a realist. i know someone out there gotta feel me??[/quote]
Yeah, I do. I see this fight going the same way the McFriedes fight just went. Hopefully the ref stops it in time.
I don’t see this going Hamill way at all. Bisping will handle him easily. Hamill is not UFC caliber yet. He needs to go the minor leagues for a handle full of fights. Learn to strike better. Bisping ko 1st round.
If Hamill don’t keep his hands up, he’s going to get KTFO
Wow, Bisping finally gets tested…
[quote comment=”78675″]Bisping is going to pick him apart. Didnt Matt Hamill complain when Bisping hit him to hard in a training session? I like Hamill and have alot of respect for him. I know its great for a handicapped fighter to compete at this level, but do you really see Matt Hamill going anywhere in the 205 lb class? I know I dont. Bisping is going to overwhelm him with a 1st rd TKO.[/quote]
Bisping also cried like a bitch because Hamil was dominating him defending take downs with no hands, all you bisping nut huggers saying hamil cant throw his hands well look at the flip side, Bisping cant defend hamils takedowns and clearly recognizes that hamil is way more dominant anywhere on the ground, the only chance bisping has is to catch hamill, otherwise he will be dominated in a pretty boring fight
[quote comment=”78675″]Bisping is going to pick him apart. Didnt Matt Hamill complain when Bisping hit him to hard in a training session? I like Hamill and have alot of respect for him. I know its great for a handicapped fighter to compete at this level, but do you really see Matt Hamill going anywhere in the 205 lb class? I know I dont. Bisping is going to overwhelm him with a 1st rd TKO.[/quote]
Agreed, NUFF said…
[quote comment=”78698″][quote comment=”78675″]Bisping is going to pick him apart. Didnt Matt Hamill complain when Bisping hit him to hard in a training session? I like Hamill and have alot of respect for him. I know its great for a handicapped fighter to compete at this level, but do you really see Matt Hamill going anywhere in the 205 lb class? I know I dont. Bisping is going to overwhelm him with a 1st rd TKO.[/quote]
Agreed, NUFF said…[/quote]
it sounded like “nees hinnin me nu harn”
[quote comment=”78690″]If Hamill don’t keep his hands up, he’s going to get KTFO[/quote]
Wow thanks for the insight……..please name a fighter that wont get KTFO if he doesnt keep his hands up
[quote comment=”78694″]Wow, Bisping finally gets tested…[/quote]
I dont know about all that….
I mean, its more then Pointon and Sinosec… but Hamill and Bisping have yet to be tested…
Bonnar v- Bisping… Hamill pulls out due to a bad batch of peanut butter, Dana calls up Bonnar to fill in.
Should be a good fight, I think Bisping can be taken, heck he almost lost his fight against the last chump when he got clocked. Still I’ll go with Bisping at this point.
I don’t think that this will even be close. Matt is going to get destroyed. Bisping handily beat Sinosic, and he’s a serious fighter. I don’t see Hamill doing the same to Elvis. I have to go with Bisping in this one. That is if Hamill doesn’t injure himself during training for the fight.
[quote comment=”78699″][quote comment=”78698″][quote comment=”78675″]Bisping is going to pick him apart. Didnt Matt Hamill complain when Bisping hit him to hard in a training session? I like Hamill and have alot of respect for him. I know its great for a handicapped fighter to compete at this level, but do you really see Matt Hamill going anywhere in the 205 lb class? I know I dont. Bisping is going to overwhelm him with a 1st rd TKO.[/quote]
Agreed, NUFF said…[/quote]
it sounded like “nees hinnin me nu harn”[/quote]
You should be banned for that, one thing to bash a fighter thinking he sucks or whatever, another thing to clearly make fun of his disability, karma works in mysterious ways, hopefully your children wont be born deaf
[quote post=”2429″]Wow, Bisping finally gets tested…[/quote]
LOL, I feel ya MTU, I mean come on………Hamill? I bet the UFC will try & spin this as a challenge for Bisping but this match up clearly indicates that Bisping is being protected.
lol hamill’s gonna get slaughtered he is terrible bisping will end hamill’s career.
[quote comment=”78715″][quote post=”2429″]Wow, Bisping finally gets tested…[/quote]
LOL, I feel ya MTU, I mean come on………Hamill? I bet the UFC will try & spin this as a challenge for Bisping but this match up clearly indicates that Bisping is being protected.[/quote]
I don’t think this as much of a “protection” fight for Bisping as it is a very marketable fight, seeing as how they would almost definitely have met in the TUF 3 Finale. But you’re right in the sense that Dana and the UFC don’t want to see Bisping lose in the UK.
HEY UFC MANIA FANS!! I HAVE SOME INTERESTING NEWS!! I was just looking at Rashads profile on myspace and he has a pic with him, forrest griffin, and gray maynard which says by Grays name (Ultimate Figher 5 Starr) not anything definate but may be a hint to who is in the finale. If so then my pick from the beginning is in it and gonna kick some ass!!
[quote comment=”78726″]HEY UFC MANIA FANS!! I HAVE SOME INTERESTING NEWS!! I was just looking at Rashads profile on myspace and he has a pic with him, forrest griffin, and gray maynard which says by Grays name (Ultimate Figher 5 Starr) not anything definate but may be a hint to who is in the finale. If so then my pick from the beginning is in it and gonna kick some ass!![/quote]
Maybe everyone doesn’t want to know the outcomes of the fights in advance genius.
dude its nothin definate..could just be sayin hes a star cause hes lasted this long. A lot of people like hints to whos gonna win. beside ufc.com already posted one of the winners supposedly but took him off as soon as they could
[quote comment=”78726″]HEY UFC MANIA FANS!! I HAVE SOME INTERESTING NEWS!! I was just looking at Rashads profile on myspace and he has a pic with him, forrest griffin, and gray maynard which says by Grays name (Ultimate Figher 5 Starr) not anything definate but may be a hint to who is in the finale. If so then my pick from the beginning is in it and gonna kick some ass!![/quote]
UMMMMM….maybe they have a pic together because they all train with Courture…..also anyone that is on TUF win or loose will be billed as a “tuf star” meaning they were on the reality show……..wow that was some more ground breaking news
damn good point joe..guess we’ll just have to wait and see tonight!! i cant wait!!
I am not saying Gray didnt win, or wont win, all I am saying is the myspace pic means absolutely nothing, I am sure we can find plenty of pics that relate to many different things and try to interpret the outcome……still means nothing
This looks like a good fight. No dead squirrel for Bisping to stomp on.
I haven’t seen anything from Matt “Dorothy” Hamill yet other than he can take guys down. I’d say he’s still with the monkeys up in the trees whereas Bisping is walking upright already. Well, hunched over anyway. Not sure Elvis Stojko gets you into the silver bracket just yet.
Finally we get to see who the real TUF3 winner should have been because if Hamils doesnt get injured that for sure would have been the final match up. By the way not quite sure why mania is calling it a rematch they haven’t fougnt each other yet.
I think Joe Silva and Dana White are trying to protect their boy again in his home country. One mistake however, Matt Hamill is going to out wrestle him and have Bisping on his back a whole lot. I can see hamill banging out a tough 3 round decision. Just another “dissapointment/upset” that the matchmakers didnt see coming.
Kevin “cuts” Kelly
all i have to say is “HELICOPTER”
[quote comment=”78743″]This looks like a good fight. No dead squirrel for Bisping to stomp on.
I haven’t seen anything from Matt “Dorothy” Hamill yet other than he can take guys down. I’d say he’s still with the monkeys up in the trees whereas Bisping is walking upright already. Well, hunched over anyway. Not sure Elvis Stojko gets you into the silver bracket just yet.[/quote]
Awesome job on working multiple figure skating references into one post.
Does anyone else seem to notice that Hamil gasses after throwing a few punches? I mean I thought big bear would help but he still seems like he’s punching in slow motion. Bisping shouldn’t have much of a problem if he sets the pace and keeps his feet moving. I agree that Bonnar vs. Bisping would be an awesome fight (barring any steroid use).
[quote comment=”78726″]HEY UFC MANIA FANS!! I HAVE SOME INTERESTING NEWS!! I was just looking at Rashads profile on myspace and he has a pic with him, forrest griffin, and gray maynard which says by Grays name (Ultimate Figher 5 Starr) not anything definate but may be a hint to who is in the finale. If so then my pick from the beginning is in it and gonna kick some ass!![/quote]
why do you think we want to know that dude, keep that shit to yourself
[quote comment=”78742″]I am not saying Gray didnt win, or wont win, all I am saying is the myspace pic means absolutely nothing, I am sure we can find plenty of pics that relate to many different things and try to interpret the outcome……still means nothing[/quote]
maybe it means nothing, but this dude thought it did and was trying to spoil it for people, not cool…
The loser buys IHOP or waffle house!!!
Hammill is going to get his ass kicked big time!! After Hammill’s last poor perfromance, the only reason he called out Michael Bisping was to finally get a televised fight.
And i thought we might hear Bisbing vs Shogun, Sheesh
this is an interesting fight because bisping has much better stand up and hamill has much better wrestling and ground game, either guy could win this one, it all depends on where the fight goes…i’m gonna say bisping will win this fight as long as he fights smart and doesn’t let the crowd force him into trying to kill hamill fast, he needs to take his time in this one and stay away and pick his shots, if he does that he’ll win by a late (T)KO or a decision…
[quote comment=”78759″][quote comment=”78742″]I am not saying Gray didnt win, or wont win, all I am saying is the myspace pic means absolutely nothing, I am sure we can find plenty of pics that relate to many different things and try to interpret the outcome……still means nothing[/quote]
maybe it means nothing, but this dude thought it did and was trying to spoil it for people, not cool…[/quote]
damn dude..i figured people would want a hint because they cant wait. then they could start the analysis for who will win the tuf 5 finale. Sorry bro not tryin to ruin anything for you. Its nothin definate anyways. Either way, i would put my money on gray 100% against nate..wouldnt u?
There is no way Mike the Count Dracula Bisbing could win this fight. He is fighting an excellent wrestler, good ground n pounder. Oh one more thing Hamil trains with Tito and them he would definitely be ready for this one. I hope Mike dont get his head demolished.
[quote comment=”78757″][quote comment=”78726″]HEY UFC MANIA FANS!! I HAVE SOME INTERESTING NEWS!! I was just looking at Rashads profile on myspace and he has a pic with him, forrest griffin, and gray maynard which says by Grays name (Ultimate Figher 5 Starr) not anything definate but may be a hint to who is in the finale. If so then my pick from the beginning is in it and gonna kick some ass!![/quote]
why do you think we want to know that dude, keep that shit to yourself[/quote]
Hey men keep it to yourself u ruin my point of view. Dam i dont even want to watch the fight today anymore. Thanks a lot for your Information. U ruin my day ={
i feel ya st.amour
[quote comment=”78720″]lol hamill’s gonna get slaughtered he is terrible bisping will end hamill’s career.[/quote]
I think so. UFC is putting bodies in the ground from Tito camp.
I am looking forward to this fight. Yes, I think that Bisping will dominate this fight if it stays standing. However a weak Elvis Sinosic punch almost knocked him out. During they’re season of TUF, Hammil Dominated with a capitol D Bisping in wrestling, which makes me think that this could turn out to be a fight where Hammil just lays on Bisping to try and get a descision. But I don’t think that will happen. These two dudes do not like each other, and absolutely couln’t stand each other in the house. I think Hammil is going to actually try and stand up with Bisping to knock him out for all the shit he talked. Could turn out to be a bad idea. I don’t think either of them have good chins, so the first decent punch can end the fight. Hammil’s best chance is to try and slam him to the ground and GnP from there.
i just hope star means he did well, like makin it to the semis or finals, cuz it didnt say champ or winner, just star, but keep that to yourself
[quote comment=”78721″][quote comment=”78715″][quote post=”2429″]Wow, Bisping finally gets tested…[/quote]
LOL, I feel ya MTU, I mean come on………Hamill? I bet the UFC will try & spin this as a challenge for Bisping but this match up clearly indicates that Bisping is being protected.[/quote]
I don’t think this as much of a “protection” fight for Bisping as it is a very marketable fight, seeing as how they would almost definitely have met in the TUF 3 Finale. But you’re right in the sense that Dana and the UFC don’t want to see Bisping lose in the UK.[/quote]
Both of you are right. It’s marketable as hell, heck I wanna see it, but it is mosdef protection for Bisping. He’s the gate to Europe, and Dana wont fuuuck that up for nothing. no if he loses to a deaf guy, the socialist europeans will love it.
[quote post=”2429″]Wow, Bisping finally gets tested[/quote]
[quote post=”2429″]LOL, I feel ya MTU, I mean come on………Hamill? I bet the UFC will try & spin this as a challenge for Bisping but this match up clearly indicates that Bisping is being protected.[/quote]
[quote post=”2429″]I don’t think this as much of a “protection” fight for Bisping as it is a very marketable fight, seeing as how they would almost definitely have met in the TUF 3 Finale. But you’re right in the sense that Dana and the UFC don’t want to see Bisping lose in the UK.[/quote]
[quote post=”2429″]Both of you are right. It’s marketable as hell, heck I wanna see it, but it is mosdef protection for Bisping. He’s the gate to Europe, and Dana wont fuuuck that up for nothing. no if he loses to a deaf guy, the socialist europeans will love it. [/quote]
Based on the history of TUF stars with star potential, I’d say it’ll be quite a while before Bisping get’s paired up against an opponent which he could realistically lose to.
Have you seen Matts stand up, yes he is a good wrestler but what have we really seen from him. Unless Matt improves drastically I think it will be a onsided fight.
Bisbing by TKO Rd 2….. then feed Bisbing to Tito….. Tito by TKO Rd. 1……remember the bad blood from TUF 3?? Bisbing was pissed Tito was giving Hammel so much attention….could work…
I bet Hamill wins this, and I bet Dana knows it too. He wants to drive Bisping down to 185 where he has a better shot of being a champion, so he’s giving him to a wrestler who will handily outweigh him.
Hamill is a marketable matchup, plus he won’t be fazed by the boos from beating the hometown hero cause he can’t hear them.
i hope hamill kicks his ass and finally shuts that arrogant brit the hell up
[quote comment=”78743″]This looks like a good fight. No dead squirrel for Bisping to stomp on.
I haven’t seen anything from Matt “Dorothy” Hamill yet other than he can take guys down. I’d say he’s still with the monkeys up in the trees whereas Bisping is walking upright already. Well, hunched over anyway. Not sure Elvis Stojko gets you into the silver bracket just yet.[/quote]
Elvis Stojko IS a black belt in Karate. Just thought I’d mention it. Elvis Sinosic is one of the gate-keepers to the division. Bisping had him controlled for most of the fight. That, in my mind makes Bisping a serious threat at 205. I just don’t see Bisping having a big problem with Hamill. Of course, I almost passed out with shock when Serra beat GSP and Gonzaga KO’d CroCop, so what do I know.
[quote comment=”78752″][quote comment=”78743″]This looks like a good fight. No dead squirrel for Bisping to stomp on.
I haven’t seen anything from Matt “Dorothy” Hamill yet other than he can take guys down. I’d say he’s still with the monkeys up in the trees whereas Bisping is walking upright already. Well, hunched over anyway. Not sure Elvis Stojko gets you into the silver bracket just yet.[/quote]
Awesome job on working multiple figure skating references into one post.[/quote]
Guess I should be on a figure skating blog posting along with the other opionated(sp) Axels.
Hamill’s best chance, nay, only chance, is to try to lay ‘n’ pray for three rounds and hope for a decision. Bisping is a vastly superior striker, and he has some jiu jitsu and sub skills should it go the ground.
pre-fight trash talkin:
Bisping: Hyap hoop boopta guupya- oy bup hoop man!!
Hamill (to Tito): Wyun heen say?
Tito: Dude, I don’t f*ckin’ know- and I can hear.
I am not a big fan of Bisping, ill take Hamill, i hope he has improved his striking, because if he has, Bisping will be in for a rude awakening…..
Does Hamill have a good ground game? He obviously has a great take down game, but once he takes his opponent down he doesn’t appear to do anything other than lay on him.
[quote comment=”78863″][quote comment=”78743″]This looks like a good fight. No dead squirrel for Bisping to stomp on.
[/quote]
Elvis Stojko IS a black belt in Karate. Just thought I’d mention it. Elvis Sinosic is one of the gate-keepers to the division. Bisping had him controlled for most of the fight. That, in my mind makes Bisping a serious threat at 205. I just don’t see Bisping having a big problem with Hamill. Of course, I almost passed out with shock when Serra beat GSP and Gonzaga KO’d CroCop, so what do I know.[/quote]
Gatekeeper is to doormat as freedom fighter is to terrorist.
Maybe in a contest without striking like Abu Dhabi Sinosic fares better but I’ve only seen him get stomped. He’s 8-10 or something- I mean come on.
If Hamill wins, Joe Rogaine could mess with his lip reading:
Alright I’m hear with the winner, Matt Hamill!! Matt- gutsy football field refrigerator anthem. Tell us a little bit about hammer stalk meister rabbit. Was fuzzy tiger roman shades or buzzcocks werewolf?
[quote comment=”78771″]There is no way Mike the Count Dracula Bisbing could win this fight. He is fighting an excellent wrestler, good ground n pounder. Oh one more thing Hamil trains with Tito and them he would definitely be ready for this one. I hope Mike dont get his head demolished.[/quote]
I pick Count Chocula by strangulation.
Is this fight for real?, I almost thought it was a joke. Hamill looks terrible out there, I don’t know how he wins. I will laugh my ass off if he wins though, Bisping said some pretty insulting things about Matt, though true, like he fights like a drunk, man I have better stand up than Hamill. Matts only chance is to lay and pray his way to victory because he’d get destroyed on his feet.
[quote comment=”78900″]Is this fight for real?
Matts only chance is to lay and pray his way to victory because he’d get destroyed on his feet.[/quote]
Rashad Evans and Jake O’Brien demonstrated how a pure wrestler can eke out a decision. Hamill just needs to bone up on that.
[quote comment=”78891″]If Hamill wins, Joe Rogaine could mess with his lip reading:
Alright I’m hear with the winner, Matt Hamill!! Matt- gutsy football field refrigerator anthem. Tell us a little bit about hammer stalk meister rabbit. Was fuzzy tiger roman shades or buzzcocks werewolf?[/quote]
hahahahahahahahahahaha…elephant shoes
[quote comment=”78875″]pre-fight trash talkin:
Bisping: Hyap hoop boopta guupya- oy bup hoop man!!
Hamill (to Tito): Wyun heen say?
Tito: Dude, I don’t f*ckin’ know- and I can hear.[/quote]
HAHAHAHA Halarious….Nice!
Hamill has looked horrible in all of his fights. His stand-up is a complete joke. He might be able to take Bisping down, but I’m not so sure. He can’t setup the shoot, so Bisping should be able to sprawl or drop him with a knee. Hamill’s biggest issue is he won’t use his wrestling in a fight. In all of his fights he has decided to stand and slug it out! And even if he gets Bisping down on the ground, he’ll just lay on him. Bisping has decent BJJ. I predict Bisping by KTFO in Round 1.
Dana should be ashamed to have this fight. Hamill really doesn’t have any business in the UFC.
Matt
[quote comment=”78927″]Hamill has looked horrible in all of his fights. His stand-up is a complete joke. He might be able to take Bisping down, but I’m not so sure. He can’t setup the shoot, so Bisping should be able to sprawl or drop him with a knee. Hamill’s biggest issue is he won’t use his wrestling in a fight. In all of his fights he has decided to stand and slug it out! And even if he gets Bisping down on the ground, he’ll just lay on him. Bisping has decent BJJ. I predict Bisping by KTFO in Round 1.
Dana should be ashamed to have this fight. Hamill really doesn’t have any business in the UFC.
Matt[/quote]
Matt Hamill has been improving, and I think you are right about Hamill getting KTFO by Bisping, but I say Round 2. I say Round 1 is a boring ground game by Matt Hamill, but I say Bisping when he is on the bottom will hit Hamill in the head and in the ears to make Hamill feel awful, and then round 2 Hamill is going to be scared to take down Bisping and Bisping will pop him right in his chin to KTFO of Hamill.
I like Hamill he is a good person to cheer for, but I just see him getting lit up.
Mike The Count Drakula Bisbing is goin to lose this fight. There is no way he could stop Matt Hamil’s takedown, matt hamils takedown are the same as matt hughes. So Matt is goin to dominate this match by ground and pound.
I think Hamill has looked like a powerhouse since the tv show ended. It should be a fantastic fight. Bisping is probably favored but I think Hamill will dominate.
[quote comment=”78763″]And i thought we might hear Bisbing vs Shogun, Sheesh[/quote]
UFC wouldn’t dare put their poster boy for the Uk against Shogun. Shogun would eat him alive.
[quote comment=”78777″][quote comment=”78757″][quote comment=”78726″]HEY UFC MANIA FANS!! I HAVE SOME INTERESTING NEWS!! I was just looking at Rashads profile on myspace and he has a pic with him, forrest griffin, and gray maynard which says by Grays name (Ultimate Figher 5 Starr) not anything definate but may be a hint to who is in the finale. If so then my pick from the beginning is in it and gonna kick some ass!![/quote]
why do you think we want to know that dude, keep that shit to yourself[/quote]
Hey men keep it to yourself u ruin my point of view. Dam i dont even want to watch the fight today anymore. Thanks a lot for your Information. U ruin my day ={[/quote]
man your a dick talking bout spoiling it for everybody.
[quote comment=”78882″][quote comment=”78863″][quote comment=”78743″]This looks like a good fight. No dead squirrel for Bisping to stomp on.
[/quote]
Elvis Stojko IS a black belt in Karate. Just thought I’d mention it. Elvis Sinosic is one of the gate-keepers to the division. Bisping had him controlled for most of the fight. That, in my mind makes Bisping a serious threat at 205. I just don’t see Bisping having a big problem with Hamill. Of course, I almost passed out with shock when Serra beat GSP and Gonzaga KO’d CroCop, so what do I know.[/quote]
Gatekeeper is to doormat as freedom fighter is to terrorist.
Maybe in a contest without striking like Abu Dhabi Sinosic fares better but I’ve only seen him get stomped. He’s 8-10 or something- I mean come on.[/quote]
Gate keeper is the wrong word, beat Elvis and you’re allowed to fight in the UFC lol.
[quote comment=”78703″][quote comment=”78690″]If Hamill don’t keep his hands up, he’s going to get KTFO[/quote]
Wow thanks for the insight……..please name a fighter that wont get KTFO if he doesnt keep his hands up[/quote]
YOU are the nuthugger. Hamil has been less than impressive. I admire his overcoming a handicap, but he has zero standup.
As far as Hamill i s concerned win or lose I been waiting for this match up. i don’t see him beating Bisping. It wasn’t going to happen then or now. Bisping is awesome. Elvis tested that chin in the second at 70 but this guy will be great in 205
The problem with Hamill is he really cant take repeated hits to the head.
What does Bisping like to done?
Hit to the head.
Hamill takes him down, and Bisping will unload punches from the bottom to Hamill’s head.
He will shake him up in round 1 while on the ground and round 2 he will knock out Hamill.
Like I said, Hamill is a AMAZING person to root for in the UFC, and I always wish him the best of luck for all of his fights, but I just think his undefeated streak ends at UFC 75.
BTW somebody compared Hamill to Hughes?
Hughes is more violent on the ground than Hamill, Hughes finishes people off quickly from the ground, when you get on the ground with Hughes you get scared, with Hamill you get nervous but there is a better chance of stand-up with Hamill, because he might just lay on you for a certain amount of time.
I really don’t like Hamill, i hope Bisping destroys him!
[quote comment=”78882″][quote comment=”78863″][quote comment=”78743″]This looks like a good fight. No dead squirrel for Bisping to stomp on.
[/quote]
Elvis Stojko IS a black belt in Karate. Just thought I’d mention it. Elvis Sinosic is one of the gate-keepers to the division. Bisping had him controlled for most of the fight. That, in my mind makes Bisping a serious threat at 205. I just don’t see Bisping having a big problem with Hamill. Of course, I almost passed out with shock when Serra beat GSP and Gonzaga KO’d CroCop, so what do I know.[/quote]
Gatekeeper is to doormat as freedom fighter is to terrorist.
Maybe in a contest without striking like Abu Dhabi Sinosic fares better but I’ve only seen him get stomped. He’s 8-10 or something- I mean come on.[/quote]
Dude, Sinosic has faught the who’s who in the 205 ib division. You can’t always Judge a fighter by their record. Look at Coutures win/loss record, it’s not all that impressive until you consider his opponents. I’m not saying Elvis is the man, but I am saying he’s a competent fighter - a tough guy.
Hammell is no joke for anyone in the 205 ib division. Wrestlers always stand a chance (regardless of how slim), and have proven to be very tough match-ups for strikers…who are seemingly worreid about being taken down. Still, I take Bisping in this one…convincingly.
[quote comment=”79014″][quote comment=”78763″]And i thought we might hear Bisbing vs Shogun, Sheesh[/quote]
UFC wouldn’t dare put their poster boy for the Uk against Shogun. Shogun would eat him alive.[/quote]
Hopefully we see this matchup sometime soon…so I can laugh at you when Bisping takes Shogun out
Hamill is pretty freakin strong, I don’t understand why people think Bisbing will walk thru him. I think Bisbing will win, but c’mon, with the trouble he had with Sinosic, I think Hamill can do better than that. Bisbing has yet to impress. Put him against Forrest. That I would want to see.
could be a decent fight
but i think bisping wil put a hurting on him
i havent seen many persistant beatdowns which compare to what he did to sinosic
the fact that hammill outwrestled him in training means nothing
the fact that bisping almost knocked him out while sparring means a lot
im hoping once this is done bisping will move up the food chain
bonnar, forrest , rashad or jardine could all be decent opponents then have him move on to the new “gatekeeper” Tito ortiz
[quote post=”2429″]the fact that hammill outwrestled him in training means nothing
the fact that bisping almost knocked him out while sparring means a lot[/quote]
How the hell does that work? Either they both mean something, or they both don’t. They are different aspects of fighting that while practiced, they each got the better of eachother, can’t see how you can discount one, and not the other.
[quote comment=”79089″]Bisbing has yet to impress. Put him against Forrest. That I would want to see.[/quote]
I second that! Either Forrest or Stefan Boner. 8===>
Bisping would be an animal at 185. I reckon he could make the cut. Faster with even better cardio. He won’t go down though.
Great wrestling beats above average striking any day of the week. Hamill’s sub defense is definitely good enough by now to avoid Bisping’s subs and he’s fast as hell.
Watch his fight with Holman, he’s going to fuck Bisping up.
[quote comment=”79089″]Hamill is pretty freakin strong, I don’t understand why people think Bisbing will walk thru him. I think Bisbing will win, but c’mon, with the trouble he had with Sinosic, I think Hamill can do better than that. Bisbing has yet to impress. Put him against Forrest. That I would want to see.[/quote]
Agree…entirely. Will not be a walk in the park at all. Bisping just brings a more well rounded aresenal.
Hamill is absolutely garbage. His standup game rivals patty-cake, and his conditioning parallels that of Tank Abbott (ok, so its a bit of a stretch). He will be annihilated by Bisbing….And thats not saying much either. Bisbing is unproven. Marketable? Obviously. A legitimate talent? Not an ounce.
I can’t believe you think the kid that took one punch to the face and had to go to the hospital and dropped out the show is gonna be ‘Bisping’s biggest test to date’. Surely Elvis was and is tougher then Matt. Matt have looked decent against Rex who wasn’t punching back but I bet he folds after just a couple well placed shots to the chin. My prediction is Matt quits on his seat between rounds.
[quote comment=”79086″][quote comment=”79014″][quote comment=”78763″]And i thought we might hear Bisbing vs Shogun, Sheesh[/quote]
UFC wouldn’t dare put their poster boy for the Uk against Shogun. Shogun would eat him alive.[/quote]
Hopefully we see this matchup sometime soon…so I can laugh at you when Bisping takes Shogun out[/quote]
Do you hoestly think he could take Shogun?
I cant belive some people think Hammill will win,his only hope is to pin Bisping and he cant even be active on the ground coz MB will submit him and I know the ref wont let Hammill off with just holding MB on the ground.
standing up Hammill gets KOed and on the ground he gets submited.
[quote comment=”79506″][quote comment=”79086″][quote comment=”79014″][quote comment=”78763″]And i thought we might hear Bisbing vs Shogun, Sheesh[/quote]
UFC wouldn’t dare put their poster boy for the Uk against Shogun. Shogun would eat him alive.[/quote]
Hopefully we see this matchup sometime soon…so I can laugh at you when Bisping takes Shogun out[/quote]
Do you hoestly think he could take Shogun?[/quote]
Bisping can take Shogun.I am a huge MB fan and that was the fight I was hoping for,it would of been a chance for MB to proove himself to all the doubters.
I honestly dont think Hammill is a worthy oponent for Bisping now but if thats what it takes to shut up all the doubters who think Hammill should of won TUF3 despite not making it through one fight unscaved (and thats part of the game to come through unscaved so your fit for your next fight,isnt it?)then so be it.
The fact that Hammill got beaten into ER in a fight that he won should not take away from Bisping who came through all of his fights without even a scratch and won TUF3 like it or not.
Catch yer selfs on people.
[quote comment=”78696″][quote comment=”78675″]Bisping is going to pick him apart. Didnt Matt Hamill complain when Bisping hit him to hard in a training session? I like Hamill and have alot of respect for him. I know its great for a handicapped fighter to compete at this level, but do you really see Matt Hamill going anywhere in the 205 lb class? I know I dont. Bisping is going to overwhelm him with a 1st rd TKO.[/quote]
Bisping also cried like a bitch because Hamil was dominating him defending take downs with no hands, all you bisping nut huggers saying hamil cant throw his hands well look at the flip side, Bisping cant defend hamils takedowns and clearly recognizes that hamil is way more dominant anywhere on the ground, the only chance bisping has is to catch hamill, otherwise he will be dominated in a pretty boring fight[/quote]
I have to agree with you Hammill is a better wrestler than MB,but this is not wrestling this is MMA and Bisping is better at everything else,lets see how good Hammill is when he is eating elbows punches kicks and knees to his face.He is NOT going to get away with grinding out a boring desicion in front of the London crowd.
He is gonna have to be carefull on the ground not to get submited.
Tell me how do you see Hammill winning this fight?
And I am sick of saying to people if MB was so close to unconsiousness when Elvis caught him then how the hell did he escape that kimura.
Watch when he fought pointon he got caught with a huge punche there and was fine.
He has a good chin.
[quote post=”2429″]And i thought we might hear Bisbing vs Shogun, Sheesh
UFC wouldn’t dare put their poster boy for the Uk against Shogun. Shogun would eat him alive.
Hopefully we see this matchup sometime soon…so I can laugh at you when Bisping takes Shogun out
Do you hoestly think he could take Shogun?
Bisping can take Shogun.I am a huge MB fan and that was the fight I was hoping for,it would of been a chance for MB to proove himself to all the doubters.[/quote]
Wow, you are not only a “huge MB fan” but you are hanging from his nuts. There is absolutely no way in hell that Bisping can beat Shogun right now. Thinking that Bisping can beat Shogun is actually laughable. Do you know who Shogun is, or do you just watch reality shows? Look at what Shogun has done against TOP NOTCH competition at 205. He demolished everyone he faced, including Rampage (yeah, I know he got submitted by Babalu very early in his career). Bisping’s hardest fight to date was against Elvis Sinosic. Before coming to the UFC, Bisping fought in the UK. I don’t think there are many good fighters over there, especially when compared to UFC and PRIDE. I think he had said that Ross Pointon was one of his toughest fights prior to TUF. LOL. Bisping would not last past the first round against Shogun.
[quote comment=”79430″]Hamill is absolutely garbage. His standup game rivals patty-cake, and his conditioning parallels that of Tank Abbott (ok, so its a bit of a stretch). He will be annihilated by Bisbing….And thats not saying much either. Bisbing is unproven. Marketable? Obviously. A legitimate talent? Not an ounce.[/quote]
Doesn’t Hamill still train with Tito? I can’t believe his cardio would be anything but excellent.
[quote comment=”79613″][quote comment=”79506″][quote comment=”79086″][quote comment=”79014″][quote comment=”78763″]And i thought we might hear Bisbing vs Shogun, Sheesh[/quote]
UFC wouldn’t dare put their poster boy for the Uk against Shogun. Shogun would eat him alive.[/quote]
Hopefully we see this matchup sometime soon…so I can laugh at you when Bisping takes Shogun out[/quote]
Do you hoestly think he could take Shogun?[/quote]
Bisping can take Shogun.I am a huge MB fan and that was the fight I was hoping for,it would of been a chance for MB to proove himself to all the doubters.
[/quote]
Bisping beat Shogun. Have you actually seen Shogun fight before? Doesn’t sound like it to me.
[quote comment=”79663″][quote post=”2429″]And i thought we might hear Bisbing vs Shogun, Sheesh
UFC wouldn’t dare put their poster boy for the Uk against Shogun. Shogun would eat him alive.
Hopefully we see this matchup sometime soon…so I can laugh at you when Bisping takes Shogun out
Do you hoestly think he could take Shogun?
Bisping can take Shogun.I am a huge MB fan and that was the fight I was hoping for,it would of been a chance for MB to proove himself to all the doubters.[/quote]
Wow, you are not only a “huge MB fan” but you are hanging from his nuts. There is absolutely no way in hell that Bisping can beat Shogun right now. Thinking that Bisping can beat Shogun is actually laughable. Do you know who Shogun is, or do you just watch reality shows? …
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This gets back to my rant about people being so UFC-centric here. Yes, I love the UFC too. I do watch WEC, IFL and Pride when I can and UFC is my favorite organization by far. That said, people can’t just ignore the other fighters out there. If you see a name like “Shogun” Rua, try to find some video on him and imagine how the guy might do in the Octagon. I think Pride generally has better strikers and better Jujitsu. To some extent maybe the cage nullifies that edge. We will find out say when big Nog arrives, and Shogun and Wanderlei Silva even.
[quote comment=”79613″]I am a huge MB fan….[/quote]Thats the problem with MMA ‘fans’ or sports fans in general. They let their man-crushes get the better judgement. Bisping is UNTESTED like 90% of the TUF fighters…
[quote comment=”78703″][quote comment=”78690″]If Hamill don’t keep his hands up, he’s going to get KTFO[/quote]
Wow thanks for the insight……..please name a fighter that wont get KTFO if he doesnt keep his hands up[/quote]
Chuck Liddell
[quote comment=”79825″][quote comment=”78703″][quote comment=”78690″]If Hamill don’t keep his hands up, he’s going to get KTFO[/quote]
Wow thanks for the insight……..please name a fighter that wont get KTFO if he doesnt keep his hands up[/quote]
Chuck Liddell[/quote]
No… GSP. Cause he is an MMA GOD!
[quote comment=”79870″][quote comment=”79825″][quote comment=”78703″][quote comment=”78690″]If Hamill don’t keep his hands up, he’s going to get KTFO[/quote]
Wow thanks for the insight……..please name a fighter that wont get KTFO if he doesnt keep his hands up[/quote]
Chuck Liddell[/quote]
No… GSP. Cause he is an MMA GOD![/quote]
Um, Rampage? Serra? Hello? Is anyone home?
I have seen all of Shoguns fights actualy hes the dude who likes to stomp on peoples heads,has one slight fall and breaks his arm (feeble),and is friends with Wanderlei Silva (the guy Chuck is gonna KO in the first round).
Yeah I imagine how hed do in UFC and its hard to considering he uses those stomps so much.
Bisping would kill him,get over it.
[quote comment=”79086″][quote comment=”79014″][quote comment=”78763″]And i thought we might hear Bisbing vs Shogun, Sheesh[/quote]
UFC wouldn’t dare put their poster boy for the Uk against Shogun. Shogun would eat him alive.[/quote]
Hopefully we see this matchup sometime soon…so I can laugh at you when Bisping takes Shogun out[/quote]
Yeah i dont know why people hate on Bisbing so much? He seems like a pretty solid fighter. I hope we do see him fight the likes of Tito, Shogun, Rampage, Jardine, Forrest, Hendo, Franklin, Baroni, Ross Pointon again, Alexander, Soko, Silva, Shamrock and Babalu, then retire.
A friend of mine told me that he trained with Matt Hamill before and said that Hamill’s freakish strength is just ‘off the chart’. That’s probably why he doesn’t know how to spar lightly.
I just checked out Rex Holman’s background; he was a NCAA Div. I National Champion for the Ohio State while Matt Hamill who is only 3 times NCAA Div III National Champion for Rochester Institute of Technology. So, if Matt Hamill can kick Div I. champ’s, then it says a lot about his legitimacy for being in the UFC.
The same friend who told me that Hamill was even placed 4th at the U.S. Olympic trials while competing for a spot on the U.S. Wrestling team for Atlanta ‘96. At RIT, he amassed a career record of 89-3.
Beside that, at the octagon ring, he only relies on himself to execute any of his game plan without the corner’s help (due to his deafness) and Michael Bisping could probably has somebody to relay the stragety to him via audit.
Seth Petruzelli who is himself an accomplished striker. According to UFC.com website:
“What ranks and titles have you held?
King of the Cage superfight champion, Cage Wars (England) superfight champion, national kumite champion (karate), world team kumite champion (karate), 2002 US open absolute grappling champion, numerous grappling and karate championship medals.”
Matt Hamill totally dominated Seth and won by decision. Matt Hamill may lacked a style, but he still won. It could be that he’s waaay too underestimated.
Matt Hamill totally dominated Seth Petruzelli, who is himself an accomplished striker and won by unanimous decision in their UFC match. According to source from UFC.com:
For Seth, “What ranks and titles have you held?
King of the Cage superfight champion, Cage Wars (England) superfight champion, national kumite champion (karate), world team kumite champion (karate), 2002 US open absolute grappling champion, numerous grappling and karate championship medals.”
Seth Petruzelli vs. Matt Hamill — Result: Seth Petruzelli Loss by Decision (Unanimous)
Now, the same Seth Petruzelli who defeated the guy who has defeated Ken Shamrock and Forrest Griffin and a draw against Pat Miletich. Let’s take look at history of Dan Severn’s fights:
Dan “The Beast” Severn vs. Seth Petruzelli — Result: Loss by Decision (KOTC 32 — Bringing Heat)
Dan “The Beast” Severn vs. Pat Miletich — Result: Draw (EC 20 — Expreme Challenge 20).
Dan “The Beast” Severn vs. Ken Shamrock — Result: Severn Won by Decision (UFC 9 — Motor City Madness).
Dan “The Beast” Severn Vs. David Abbott — Result: Severn Won by Decision (UU 95 — Ultimate Ultimate 95).
Dan “The Beast” Severn vs. Forrest Griffin — Result: Severn Won by Decision (RSF 5 — New Blood Conflict)
sources for Seth Petruzelli and Dan Severn’s fight history are from Sherdog.com’s fighter profiles.
Hamill tends to wince a bit and doesnt like getting hit (who does???) but a few heavy punches from Bisping will send him on the back foot. Saying that i can see him taking bisping down like Koscheck did to Diego. Does Bisping have the skill to submit Hamill - I really think Bispings ground game is over rated, he nearly got submitted by a half dead Elvis Sinosic. Bisping is a crude fighter with average skill level and technique. I am going for Hamill in this one he’ll take Bisping down at will time and time again
Matt Hamill was robbed.
worst decision i’ve ever seen.
what the fuck matt won that fight was not even close
Hammill dominated Bisping. The fix was clearly end. What classless comments from Bisping at the end. 30-27 was the proper score.
Matt Hamill was robbed bad. he beat bisping hands down, he controlled the fight, just cause its bispings home town the vote goes to him. bisping didnt know what hit him. bispings a pussy, hamill was so much better than him in that fight.
[quote comment=”78649″]WOw! I’m looking forward to this fight. I thought Bisping was going to get an easy fight, but this isn’t an easy fight. I’ll be cheering for Hamill, but I think Bisping will win. UFC 75 is shaping up to be a solid PPV. Does anyone know if the event is going to be tape delayed?[/quote]
Matt Hamill was robbed. He clearly won all rounds and took Bisping down at will. The scores said it all especially since they were fighting in the UK. At least Hamill showed class at the end of the fight unlike Bisping. What comes around goes around Mike…
Exactly which rounds did Bisbing win? What fight were those judges watching??? Very disappointing showing for the judges at the fight. Hamill dominated the fight and was totally robbed because he was in England. Unfortunately, that’s what happens when you let it go to the scorecards…
Well dana white has made the ufc so main stream it is almost as pathetic as wwe wrestling and scripted at that. THat fight was fixed for the ignorant brit to win in his home country even though hamill man handled him. Bisping is a B&tch.
THAT SUCKED. Bisping did not win a single round how did that even get to a split decision? It was ALL hamill. If I was bisping I would be embarassed to take that fight and say he was the true winner, what a loser……..
WHAT THE FUCK …. That shit was so rigged.. what’d Bisping hit him twice??? What the fuck.. what a cocky piece of shit he couldn’t even beat Matt at his own game > STand UP!! Who voted this shit anyways !?!?
That was complete and total “flapjacks”. Those limey’s had that rigged from the get go and then Bisping didnt even give Hamill props at the end.
probably the worst decision in the history.. so rigged mind as well have dropped the script out his his back pocket.. .this isn’t supposed to be the WWE …..
[quote comment=”144997″]Exactly which rounds did Bisbing win? What fight were those judges watching??? Very disappointing showing for the judges at the fight. Hamill dominated the fight and was totally robbed because he was in England. Unfortunately, that’s what happens when you let it go to the scorecards…[/quote]
Oh Beth, I couldn’t of said it better…we should protest. The decision was rediculous and WRONG. I am SO mad…I think Bisping is a great fighter, but Hamill beat his butt!!!! Oh I am so mad!
michael bisping what a classless turd. Him and tito ortiz should have teamed up. They both have no respect for the sport or the veterans.
Give me a break I just got done watching this and Matt dominated him in every round. I mean right from the beginning Bisping’s face was swelled from all the hits and was taken down several times!!! How many judges were from London, sheesh
Call a cop Matt was robbed !!!!
And what’s even worse Bisping bragged about how the fight was nothing! Notice there was not very many relplays at the end! I wonder why? Because there was nothing good to see from Bisping!!!
UFC in London is a joke!!!!!
i think 2 of them where his brothers
[quote comment=”144989″][quote comment=”78649″]WOw! I’m looking forward to this fight. I thought Bisping was going to get an easy fight, but this isn’t an easy fight. I’ll be cheering for Hamill, but I think Bisping will win. UFC 75 is shaping up to be a solid PPV. Does anyone know if the event is going to be tape delayed?[/quote]
Matt Hamill was robbed. He clearly won all rounds and took Bisping down at will. The scores said it all especially since they were fighting in the UK. At least Hamill showed class at the end of the fight unlike Bisping. What comes around goes around Mike…[/quote]
Yes, he was very humble…but F-that…that decision was WACK!!!! Rematch!
how the hell can one judge go 30-27 hamill and the others go the other way. i am sooooooooo pissed and i didnt care who won that fight either.
Matt Hamel clearly won the fight. I love the UFC but this should not be happening. How can the judges so intentionally take a fight away from Hamel. What let down for the sport. Dana White should do something about this. I know everyone in the wrestling world(a big fan base for this sport) is absolutely disgusted.
The worst decision I’ve ever seen in any sporting event. I emailed UFC media relations on the UFC website. Everyone else should do the same. Everyone should let the UFC know this decision was bullshit.
Anyone know where we can email dana white questions or anyone who has any say in the UFC? what a joke i thought this sport was the real deal … what a sham i bet that just pissed off like 1000 000 people
haha britain is just glad they finally beat us at SOMETHING. HAHAHAHAHAHA
This was aterrible decision!! WERE THE JUDGES WATCHING THE SAME MATCH AS ALL OF US? Matt Hamill had that match, He had every round. Michael Bisbing did not do anything. I would guess all the judges were from England. Absolutely rediculous!!
You guys should be ashamed of yourselves. Bisping, Hows it feel to be completely Dominated. Matt Kicked your arse from the first second to the Last. You totally got your arse kicked. Go Back to wrestling you say? Learn how to fight and most of all Learn who your Daddy is Chump….Get A Life you lost. Matt Kick your ChinUp you totally Destroyed him and even let the Bitch get up 3 times to Prove it! Nice Job Matt!!
where do we send emails? i am all over that
wtf???? are you kidding me? now when can a guy win a match and never put someone on the ground and get the sh(t kicked out of him … Bisping was dominated in the first two rounds.. every time he tried to kick he was put on the ground… just like in the third round.. this was a total load of crap… it actually tells me that there was a fix on… hometown advantage BS… that was a load… and i think that this takes my faith in judges to a new low … what a crock… and the crap that Bisping stated about going back to wrestling.. how freaking low can a guy be… he was a scardy little child that got dominated and has to end up saying something so childish…
Check this I was headed to Bisping’s website to bash him and it doesn’t even work it’s a broken link.
Maybe he should should hire the judges they can fix anything!!
BETTER YET, UFC WE DEMAND A REMATCH AND IT NEEDS TO BE THE MAIN EVENT
MATT KICKED HIS DONKEY ASS
After hearing the Bisbing and Hamel decision just shows you that the UFC IS A JOKE.I had so much respect for this sport and now it is gone..I might as well go back and watch WWF at least I know that is fake ahead of time… I lost all respect for this sport..
[quote comment=”145030″]Give me a break I just got done watching this and Matt dominated him in every round. I mean right from the beginning Bisping’s face was swelled from all the hits and was taken down several times!!! How many judges were from London, sheesh
Call a cop Matt was robbed !!!!
And what’s even worse Bisping bragged about how the fight was nothing! Notice there was not very many relplays at the end! I wonder why? Because there was nothing good to see from Bisping!!!
UFC in London is a joke!!!!![/quote]
LOL Exactly…they were like let’s take a look at … uh how Matt threw you on the ground. There were NO replays of Mike dominating ANYTHING!
[quote comment=”145046″]The worst decision I’ve ever seen in any sporting event. I emailed UFC media relations on the UFC website. Everyone else should do the same. Everyone should let the UFC know this decision was bullshit.[/quote]
I have already emailed them a comment. Does anyone else know how to contact Dana better?
This is all Dana whites fault too for making the ufc so mainstream and taking it to other countries. This is where the ufc goes downhill.
done. emailed them and said it needed to be fixed. oops it was already fixed huh?
that was fucking bullshit Matt Hammill was whooping ass every second of the fight, those were rigged judges there is no way Bespieng won he got his whooped, what a bitch he didnt even give matt congrats, i woulda freaked out and Matt contained his coolness damn dude i would been arguing like hell, that shows what a gentleman Matt is damn the was rigged as hell dude if only if the fight wasnt in londong, biespings hometown…
bisping pretty much sealed his fate in the UFC like Tito Ortiz did with his arrogance of flipping other fighters off and being cocky. Now all the fans will hate him like they hate tito.
Bisping is an awful and fighter, he acts like a retard in the ring. Also it is my belief that UFC is corrupt, they do not judge the fights by fighters performances, they judge them by giving priority to favorites, such as Bisping. Hamill was the clear winner of that fight, yet they gave to that lowsy filth Bisping.
I am still in shock. There has got to be a rematch. Dana and his company need to acknowledge that the fans are clearly disapointed in this decision and do something about it. AHHHHH!
I know let’s get all the pissed off fans to fight Besping. Nevermind the judges would give it to him anyway
Horrible decision. I know you can’t take the fight away from bisping. But what a jerk he was “Go Back to wrestling”. The only way to show my dis pleasure is to deny the UFC My money I will not buy ufc 76.
WHAT A JOKE OF A DECISION..The UFC organization wants more fan base, paying off judges is not the way to get it.. The UFC needs to make amends for this and allow Matt Hamel another fight and let him kick the shit out of Mike and get his hand raise the way it should have happen in the first place..
This is a black eye for the UFC….Rigged fight…..
I’m not even an MMA fan so I don’t know that much about UFC. I was only watching this fight because as a member of the deaf community I’d heard (no pun intended) of what Matt Hamill was up to and wanted to check it out.
But I have to say two things: 1) Matt represented. I’m proud of him and he’s earned a ton of respect. 2) The UFC is obviously a joke. I haven’t seen a decision this bad since Roy Jones Jr got hosed at the ‘88 Olympics. Dana White ought to be ashamed. UFC is probably going to use this as fodder for a Bisping/Hamill II but its too late. I don’t have time for sports where the fix is in.
Before I sign out (pun intended this time)– everyone cover your left ear with your left hand, make a fist with your right hand and hold it up in the air: DEAF POWER! You rock, Matt!
some one have the bispings website? im just still so pissed off i like matt and bisping but the way bisping was after a fight he new he lost just has pissed me off so bad i think every us fan that liked him will no long do so
Bisping should get a title shot is London and never throw a punch or take his opponent down and win the title…He could be the next UFC champion if the match is held in London.lol…I am so pissed about the decision…Matt Hamel is the real winner…
Why aren’t either of the commentaters saying anything about the decision…this is bull.
[quote comment=”145135″]WHAT A JOKE OF A DECISION..The UFC organization wants more fan base, paying off judges is not the way to get it.. The UFC needs to make amends for this and allow Matt Hamel another fight and let him kick the shit out of Mike and get his hand raise the way it should have happen in the first place..[/quote]
I don’t think there needs to be a rematch, Hamill clearly won, there’s no question in anybody’s mind of that.
Why didnt Joe Rogan even say anything about it???
[quote comment=”145168″]Why aren’t either of the commentaters saying anything about the decision…this is bull.[/quote]
I know I waiting for them to comment about that decision..
I think Mr Fear Factor needs a Life. For 1 thing silvia would KILL Bisping. And Most of All…..WE DEMAND A GODAHM REMATCH bisping Vs HAMMIL…..Notice how small you are bisping…1 more thing Bring the GD Brit to the USA for the Funeral
[quote comment=”145175″][quote comment=”145135″]WHAT A JOKE OF A DECISION..The UFC organization wants more fan base, paying off judges is not the way to get it.. The UFC needs to make amends for this and allow Matt Hamel another fight and let him kick the shit out of Mike and get his hand raise the way it should have happen in the first place..[/quote]
I don’t think there needs to be a rematch, Hamill clearly won, there’s no question in anybody’s mind of that.[/quote]
This is why I want a rematch. So Mike and his fans acknowledge that this fight was BS because when they announced that he won they were all cheering like he deserved it and that makes me even angrier. GRRRRRR!
That was one of the worst decisions I ever saw. How do you get thrown around every round and win the f*&d*& fight.
I am SOOO disgusted. I liked both guys, and did not really care who won, but those judges were sooo paid off!!!! Matt kicked the crap out of Mike with his multiple take downs and strikes to Mikes 0. They did not even have any footage to lay back with the interview with Besbing at the end. What a damn disgrace to the UFC! I feel so bad for Matt who was so composed and gracious.
Bisping has to realize he got a BS decision, but the real kicker is what a giant douche he was about the win
Bisbing should be ashamed along with Dana White how are you gonna get your a*s kicked for 3 rounds then talk shit afterwards about how your the true champion when you connected 2 punched and got taken down 6 times and your face beat up. If something does not get overturned or a rematch in the USA where UFC belongs than all this shit is rigged which this fight was. Bisbing needs to come fight in the US if he is so good and fight someone worth fighting and get beat AGAIN like he did tonight…
[quote comment=”78660″]I want to see this fight, and im a big fan of both so i dont care who wins.. but i can see myself leaning towards bisping just because i want him to go on and get a better oppoent. Im not takin anything from Hamill, hes great but still just a ufc fight nite guy.. Bisping is a pay per view worthy fighter.. and should be fighting higher quality guys then matt hamill right now.[/quote]
This was a great fight, but the judges were blind. I liked both fighters before the fight, but Hamill kicked Bispings ass. Was the two judges paid off?
Dana Wite should be mortified at the scoring by two of the “Homer” judges in the Bisping/Hamill fight! ESPECIALLY since it was a free event and new fans were exposed to such outright graft and corruption. I was disgusted to see UFC start down the road that killed boxing’s popularity!
I have been watching boxing for thirty years and MMA for ten. This is without a doubt the worst decision I have ever had the displeasure to witness. If Dana White and the UFC are to have any credibility at all, the decision must be overturned and the judges thrown out of the organization. Absolutely unbelievable. I have also lost all respect for the commentators for not even mentioning what a bullshit decision it was. Is this what the UFC really is, rigged? Then start booking WWE performers. I still cannot believe this.
some one know bispings website?
Dana White is the new Don King……….
That was the most horrible decision I’ve ever seen. If something’s not done, the UFC is going to LOSE a big fan.
Big fat Boooo to the UFC! Michael Bisbing did not win that fight, Matt did. What an absolute disappointment. Obviously people were paid off for this one and if anyone denies that perhaps they should review the tapes.
TO see Matt so humble was nothing new. I went to RIT with him and he was always a stand up guy around campust. This decision sucked.
I agree with all the comments aboout the Hamill and Bisping fight. Hamill is clearly the winner of that fight. Bisping lost that fight no question about it. I liked both Hamill and Bisping, but I lost all respect for Bisping when he made comments about being the true UFC winner and telling Hamill to go back to wrestling. I think Bisping needs to take lessons from Hamill on how to kick ass.
Wow Matt Hamill won that match by far. Michael Bisping should be glad he is in his country were they gave him a very lopsided decision. Even on his myspace fan site so many are saying he should have lost. What a bad decision by the judges
[quote comment=”78675″]Bisping is going to pick him apart. Didnt Matt Hamill complain when Bisping hit him to hard in a training session? I like Hamill and have alot of respect for him. I know its great for a handicapped fighter to compete at this level, but do you really see Matt Hamill going anywhere in the 205 lb class? I know I dont. Bisping is going to overwhelm him with a 1st rd TKO.[/quote]
Only it was Hamill overwhelming Bisping in the first round. And in the 2nd and 3rd. Bisping didnt do jack and the judges who gave him 2/3 rounds need to be shot.
im glad i am not the only one who thinks that the judges made a horrible call. hamill clearly won the fight. bisbing picked it up in the 3rd round but that was clearly not enough to win the fight.
I know Michael Bispings website does not work. But Rogan is all about comedians stealing jokes so contact him on his website and let him know how you feel or on his myspace. Because Bisping just stole that win from Hamill. “Go back to wrestling” how about “go back to getting my butt kicked but winning because I am at home”. Bisping would fit in great in the WWE where we expect a rigged match
First off I’d rather talk to you in private about this but since your email is not listed I will take this to the public forums in the hopes that you will read this and take action.
This is in regards to the Hamill vs. Bisping fight. You know as well as I do that that fight was overwhelmingly in Hamill’s favor and the judges scored for Bisping because they were intimidated by the crowd and didn’t want to get lynched. Who the hell was judging that fight anyway, I’m sure they weren’t from the Nevada State Athletic Commission like it should have been. That fight was total BS and you know it, something needs to be done!
Dana, I’m calling you out, if you are the tough “New England” guy you claim to be you won’t stand for this crap and you will do something about this. I couldn’t stand to watch the rest of the fights after that rubbish and turned it off. I am sure a lot of other UFC fans feel the same way I do and are PISSED OFF. You need to make a public announcement that that fight was BS and to give Hamill another shot or this is going to go down in history as a “rigged fight” and UFC fans are going to be disappointed in you. I want a public apology damn it, this is crap and I won’t stand for it!
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Arent you glad you didn’t pay to see this BullS@@t. Dana White knew what he was doing. He just didn’t expect Matt to win. Hey Dana, you blew it. I will never spend another dime to watch UFC or Pride. From now on its WEC and IFL. Dana you must think your fans are stupid. The judges from this match should be banned from the sport. If Dana White is not a Bitch he will have this investigated, but dont hold your breath. I believe it went the way they wanted it
This is ridiculous. The whole organization should be ashamed they would let their judges do that. Michael Bisping is nothing but a disrespectful lowlife piece of shit. Yeah, go ahead and talk shit to a guy who can’t hear you, real class. If I am to ever watch the UFC again Dana White should get his head out of his ass and do something about this.
Absolute Joke. This fight needs to be overturned. I have been an MMA fighter for years and know what “points” are and this fight was not even close. Matt Hamill dominated. I need to find out how to contact someone who can do something about this.
Man I am upset….
Hamill won that fight. Worst decision I’ve ever seen.
Bisping is a classless clown..he got beat and as far as i’m concerned Im done with any pay ver views they are all rigged
I think the Bisping decision win was made on purpose to save lives. If Bisping didn’t win the people watching in the stadium would have rioted. Lol.
Overall bad call and the UFC’s credibilty will suffer for it. I watch MMA beause of the realism. Cecil Peoples was the only good judge… the other 2 judges should be fired.
that fight was great i really like matt hamill and (we all know that that matt won fuck that dicision) all of london knows that matt won to hahahaha matt kicked his ass
matt made bisbing his bisb!tch… now eiter matt was payed… or those judges need to get their damn eyes checked… bisbing’s comment at the end REALLY pissed me off… “yeah, i felt it a bit, but thats what happens when you fight, you get hit.” NO BISB!TCH WHAT HAPPENED IN THAT FIGHT IS YOUR FACE WAS TURNED TO PUDDING FROM HAMILL’S NIG PUNCHES. those so called “judges” need to be fired. let them get in the ring and take the punishment that was dished to bisbing and ask them who won then…
I agree with people on here who say this decision was a joke. Hamill clearly won. Sure, Bisping has better stand-up technique in general, but that matters not when he is repeatedly taken down, clearly staggered by Hamill’s punches, and dominated in a superior performance by Hamill. I would love to hear Rogan comment on his true feelings on this fight. All in all, I have to laugh at this decision.
that fight was jacked up. Mike Hamill won that without a doubt. I can’t believe the UFC would tolerate that kind of robbery. Hamill OWNED Bisping. And everyone knows it!!!!!!!!
What a ridiculous decision! I never have seen anything like the judges except one (30-27 for Hamill)why they voted for Mike Bisping. Schmuck!
Let’s go to a rematch in the United States only. Matt Hamill will beat Bisping up very badly that will turn the world over.
BULLSHIT
BULLSHIT
BULLSHIT I never like the two bastard judges for Bisping at the Hamill-Bisping match in London, England forever.
A huge disappointment! Only let down of the night. Hammil dominated Bisbane and was robbed! This UFC was a great night of fights except for this one glaring rip-off!
Wow, simply amazing that the promotion of the organizatio in Britain takes precedence over determining the real winner of a fight… Rogan and White are scumbags … for a minute I thought I was watching WWE. I think they must have had some Japanese Pride judges in there with some stuffed pockets. UFC has lost credibility for sure.
I love the UFC.
Obviously a lot of people do.
But come on!
Everyone - including the judges - knows Matt won that fight. The dissenting judge scored it 30-27 for Hamill. 30-27!!!!! A shutout!! And the other judges didn’t even think he won 2 of the 3 rounds??? This seems so clearly to be a fix. It’s sad, because so many fans love MMA because it’s more ‘real’ than boxing or WWE. All the fake crap in boxing and WWE turns people off. Now we have rigged decisions in MMA? It’s just a HUGE turn off, which is what people are going to do to their TVs if this crap keeps happening.
By the way, this isn’t the first time the UFC has tried to influence a fight to help further propel the career of one of its stars. Nobody talks about it, but Herb Dean blatantly tried to help Cro-Cop, while he was actively getting pummeled with elbows by Gonzaga, by standing the fight back up. Well, the UFC really screwed itself by tampering there, didn’t they? Cro-Cop got his ass knocked out by Gonzaga’s leg kick to the head, and the UFC had to settle for a Gonzaga-Couture championship fight, instead of the huge dollar Couture-Cro-Cop fight that they wanted and were trying to fabricate by giving Cro-Cop a chance to get back on his feet and into what was supposed to be ‘his world’.
STOP TAMPERING and STOP FIXING or we’ll STOP WATCHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hamill got robbed! Hamill clearly won that fight. UFC needs to re-think that decision. Rarely will I disagree with a decision, but this one was clearly WRONG! Matt was extremely humble despite of such a terrible decision.
Matt Hamil fought a great fight, maybe a little tired at the end but overall there is now way that Bisping won. Maybe it was another fight than the one they aired….. I think not. Great fight to Matt.
This is the most bs fight I have ever witnessed, I pretty sure Hulk Hogan vs. Andre the Giant was more legit. Obviously, somebody was giving out hand jobs in the british judges lockeroom before the match (Rogan), because their minds were someplace else, not in this fight. Hamill won! I know Dana is desperate to have the british subjects in his audience, but there something to be said about subtlety- He gained all five fans in Britain but lost 1000’s in America. I watch the UFC because its not rigged bs like Pride and Don King boxing. At this point I’m sure of one of two things, either Vegas had some money on the fight or, more likely, Rogan gives fantastic hand jobs. Because that guy did not call out the this crap. Randy, where were you! Rogan, you’re a f*g. UFC is rigged!!
Are they bringing jugdes from the WBA to the UFC? This was a real disappointment and a black mark to the UFC. Also, Rogan and the other anouncers must have been intimated by the hoolagins to not even mention the outrageous descion. What about at least commenting on the 4 point difference between the scorecards? Hamill was robbed.
They obviously gave Bisping the win since he has created such a huge market for the UFC in the UK. I was a Bisping fan and thought he was going to kill Hammill, but it was obvious that Hammill won.
I can’t believe Joe didn’t say anything. He has been known to state his mind about bad decisions in the past. They must have been in the know to just shut up about that fight. I like Joe, but he has a big mouth and there is no way he is showing restraint on his own.
The UFC better acknowledge there was an error in the judging.
How did Matt Hamill lose that fight?? That decision was a joke, Bisping looked out of his league. Hamill got robbed.
I’ve been a HUGE UFC fan for years now.
But I will be boycotting all future UFC events until Dana White acknowledges that this was a bad call.
Bisping was dominated from beginning to end. At no point, did he have any advantage over Hamil. Hamil landed more punches, and had him monuted for half the fight.
I’m disgusted right now. Too bad, because this sport had so much momentum.
Two words for Dana White = damage control
I have no idea how someone could watch that fight and think that Bisping won, all he did was run away from Matt Hamill like a sissy little girl.
I say boycott UFC 76 in protest — $ is all Dana will hear.
Gotta say I’m shocked even 5% of the serious MMA fans at MMA weekly think Bisping won that fight. In all my years of MMA that was one of the most surprising (and troubling) decisions I’ve seen. I just hate to say it, but it just reeked like those dirty boxing matches where all real fans just feel that somethings rotten in Demark (London).
Hamill won. Period. Even the 5% of serious fans saying Bisping wins, must agree that for him to say “go back to wrestling” is just laughable, just absurd.
For the first time after a couple great years, I was truly troubled by the UFC. The announcers were just weird and oddly silent. The video clip was clearly set-up for a Hamill win. If Dana White doesn’t address this in a real way, at least full, public disclosure about how their judging process is managed, I believe this will be the first major step backward for the growing UFC.
Even if it’s just the appearance of something rotten (protecting their mega UK investments via their UK golden boy) they need to address it somehow.
BULLOCKS, can’t tell whats worse the fact that the judges are so full of shit there eyes are turning brown or the fact that the British Limey bastard thought he could talk trash to the guy that just handed him his ass.
All fans thinking this fight rigged {non-english) should boycott the next UFC for this shit.
I am glad to see that I am not the only one to feel this way about the fight! Matt Hamill CLEARLY won that fight. I have lost ALOT of respect for the UFC over this fight. I certainly hope that something is going to be done about this HORRIBLE decision. UFC has lost alot of credibility over this fight…….
Was Don King in the house tonight? That is sure what it reminded me of when they gave the win to Bisping…
EVERYONE KNOWS MATT WON! IF THEY WERE IN AMERICAN IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A DIFFERENT STORY! THAT WAS HORRIBLE AND THE REFS should be shot!
Bisping was lucky that fight was in in his home. He lost. Plain and simple.
2 things:
I am not sure what is worse…. the fact that Hamill got jacked on that decision or the fact that NOT ONE UFC mouthpiece stepped up and said a GD thing. Rogan will get all up in arms about a stand-up comedy routine that looks like his .. but let let a young determined fighter get hosed and cheap shot comments made and he does not give a shAt. Obviously integrity is not a factor!
Lastly that POS flapdoodle Bisping GOT DOMINATED and then he has the stones to comment about Hamill. He can’t really think he won that .. I mean really …
Dana White = Don King
At the 2002 Olympics in Salt Lake City, the Canadian freestyle pairs competition skaters were later awarded a second set of gold medals after the “first” set was awarded to the Russians. The Canadians scored almost perfect while the Russians fell during the competition! The Olympic committee awarded these medals to attempt to restore integrity back into the sport. It was later determined that the Russians had some sort of “reciprocity” agreement with the French judge.
The UFC may have contractual restrictions and may generate other legal repercussions by “reversing” a decision (although, if a reversal was feasible, this clearly would be a case for it).
The UFC should be working day & night in order to make some sort of “statement” that remedies this situation and acknowledges Matt’s superior, dominating performance. The UFC positions themselves as the “real deal” and Dana White has put himself out there as someone who “gives it to you straight”.
I hope they recognize the potential fallout that stems from portraying these positions and then being perceived as being hypocritical, particularly when trying to gain new subscribers and retaining a loyal fan base. As a matter of fact, by acting in an honorable fashion the UFC can spin this into a positive and gain further publicity - the “we’re not like boxing, we are above their standards” approach.
Simply by doing something, anything, that is out of the norm that acknowledges Matt is, at a minimum, in order. We, the fans, will get the point.
Michael Bisping, who was maybe dizzy or otherwise confused from the fight, should make a public statement 1) acknowledging his obvious loss and 2) apologizing for his post-fight statements. If he does not, I personally will boycott any future fight events that he participates in. I suggest that others join me.
Time to “step up to the plate” UFC.
Hamill Got ROBBED HE SHOULD HAVE WON 30-27
HAMILL BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF BISPING. HE BEAT BISPING IN STRIKING AND TOOK HIM DOWN AT WILL. BISPING LOOKED LIKE HE WAS DANCING NOT FIGHTING FOR THE FIRST TWO ROUNDS. BACKPEDDLING AND JUST MOVING AWAY TRYING NOT TO GET HIT. HAMILL WAS CLEARLY ROBBED AND MY FAITH IN THE UFC BEING A GREAT ORGINIZATION JUST DROPPED.
You all should go to the UFC web site and read the BS they have printed about the results from Hamill-Bisping. What a joke!
This is easily one of the worst decisions i have seen. The first round Hamill beat Bisping with his standup, Im sure no one saw that coming, even letting the supposed superior striker back to his feet after beating him down. The look on Bispings face after the first round was priceless, a combination of blood, shock and fear. The rest of the fight it was pretty much Hamill takedowns, and Bisping backpeddling, trying to counter. I saw the fight 30-27 for Hamill myself. Maybe one sympothy point for Bisping, but for him to get a decision is just rediculous. And its a shame that the announcers at ringside didnt have anything to say about this. This is an embarasement to the UFC.
so happy to see that i am not the only one that has this opinion. been a fan of the UFC and a fan of sport for a long time now but that was the most disgusting call i have ever seen. oh well, UFC will not see any cash coming from me.
There is no way that Dana can say he combined “Pride” with his UFC - not after the Hamill/Bisping fight last night. What a joke. Hamill kicked Bisping ass. He learned how to box… took on Bisping standing up and put him to shame. When the decision went to Bisping he should have hung his head in shame. Pride? I don’t think so. And at the end of the fight when Bisping was asked to talk over the fight recap - the only thing that the broadcasters could show on the screen was Bisping hitting Hamill on the shoulder. Oooooh, that was tough. Never mind that every other bit of the fight Hamill pummeled him. (The ONLY thing that Hamill still needs to work on is his ablity to really finish off a guy off once he gets him on the ground.) Hamill fought Bisping in Bispings backyard - and in Bispings preferred style… and won every round. Who picked those judges? Jeeze, a ten year old could tell you who won that fight.
I can’t believe the lengths the UFC went to cater to London. Bisping was dominated the entire fight. Good thing they were in a cage or Matt would have had to chase him all the way to the parking lot. Exactly how does someone win a fight backing up the entire time?
The ufc needs to hold a press conference (with both fighters present) and overturn the decision it was so obviously rigged. I became a fan of the ufc because I thougt it was real and so much better than boxing but after watching that fight I am disgusted with the ufc and can’t believe Dana White let this happen.
A rematch is not neccesary or acceptable they should restore hamill’s perfect record and give him the respect he earned in that fight. FYI I am a ufc fan not a Hamill nor a Bisping fan. Bisping comments after the fight were very laughable and shows what a bad sport/person he is. Get real if you can’t admit when you’ve been beat dont brag about it either.
Logan did elude to the bad decision he asked Hamill if he was surprised by the decision which leads me to believe he was.
Anyone who cares should boycott any payper view events, I know unless they take care of this I will never buy another UFC PPV event or for that matter support any sponsers of the ufc.
EVERYONE GO TO THE UFC WEBSITE and send a comment to the media relations. Go to contact us at the bottom of the screen.
Bisping lost. Clear as day. Never took him down, and had the edge for one round. That was disgusting! Judges should be shot!
http://www.ufcdaily.com/2007/09/08/ufc-75-results
Here is a site that claims Bisping won rounds 2 and 3 “hands down” due to his “crisper” stand-up. I say we flood the blog at that site as well…hopefully if we post at enough UFC blogs, someone in the UFC will listen!
UFC has lost my respect, now I wonder just how many other fights had similar outcomes because of the $$$ invested in a certain fighter.
Everyone should go on ufc.com to contact us and leave Dana White a piece of your mind. I did. We fans need to stick together or this will turn out like pro boxing. 31-28 Hamill. UFC has lost my respect. Ya I pissed
[quote comment=”145046″]The worst decision I’ve ever seen in any sporting event. I emailed UFC media relations on the UFC website. Everyone else should do the same. Everyone should let the UFC know this decision was bullshit.[/quote]
Dear Mr White,
I’ve been a huge UFC fan since it’s inception in the early 90’s. I love the reality of what happens in the octagon… Ive felt the last 4 years MMA and UFC as the top ring has become one of men’s favorite past times. UFC has truly been declared legitimate.
And now this Bisping decision over Hamill. I don’t even slightly buy it nor does every blog I’ve read today… I read nothing but words used such as fixed, phony, atrocious, robbed, fake, the new WWE, etc, etc.
It is my opinion that Hamill dominated all three rounds, chasing pounding and throwing Bisping around only to be handed a split decision loss. Which he excepted with class. Bisping took a beating and the undeserved win in pure cocky fashion and even had to gall to pretty much rub it in Hamill’s face.
Please Mr. White, please right this wrong… Matt Hamill deserves an apology from the UFC, the loss wiped from his record and @ the least a rematch Immediately!! Please don’t let the pour decision ability of the judges in this fight tear at the foundations of the UFC. Legitimacy is everything and at this time I have doubt over this fight.
I enjoyed the event except the decision by the judges. I appreciate the sport you have nurtured and helped bring to legitimacy. Thanks for your time, from a huge event buying fan.
Sincerely, Ronnie Geer
Longtime fan of UFC since UFC 1, have spent thousands of dollars on PPV events and have NEVER seen a bigger injustice as I did with last nights Bisbing-Hammill fight! Matt clearly dominated Bisbing the entire fight. To watch the UFC judges give the fight to the hometown boy (not man, a man of would of had more class and known when he was beaten, I still can’t get over the “back to wrestling” comment!) ruined me for the rest of the night. I was so disgusted, I couldn’t even enjoy the main event! What has happened to fairness in the UFC? I question the integrity of the UFC, its judges and what the UFC stands for!
Hamill dominated every phase of the match. Unbelievable. I think it’s safe to say that the “fix was in.” They should investigate the judges to make sure that the decision was the result only of stupidity, not fight-fixing.
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?t=635979&page=151
DANA - Bisping v. Hamill needs to be overturned NOW!
[quote comment=”145712″]www.ufcdaily.com/2007/09/08/ufc-75-results
Here is a site that claims Bisping won rounds 2 and 3 “hands down” due to his “crisper” stand-up. I say we flood the blog at that site as well…hopefully if we post at enough UFC blogs, someone in the UFC will listen!
UFC has lost my respect, now I wonder just how many other fights had similar outcomes because of the $$$ invested in a certain fighter.[/quote]
Iam in. Also email ufc, and dont rent ufc 76
And here is where you can send your comments to the ufc itself. Probably select “media relations” in the “send to:” box.
http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=misc.contact
Matt Hamill beat Michael Bisping without a doubt. The win should be taken off his record and replaced with a loss. If this isn’t fixed, then UFC will have lost all credibility. I have yet to see/talk to anyone who actually thought Bisping came close to winning, or should have even lost by split decision. This fight should have been a unanimous decision in favour of Hamill, by 3 points.
Fans go to http://WWW.ufcdaily.com. Contact. And leave them a piece of your mind.
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Worst scoring i’ve ever seen, Bisping had no class about it either, he knew he lost. UFC had a great chance to gain alot of support for a great sport, what a waste, no way will i waste my money on UFC 76. does anyone have Bispings website?
After sleeping on it, I wake up and am still disgusted by the Bisping decision. I have lost respect for the UFC and will definitely not be purchasing future UFC payperviews until this embarrassment is taken care of.
This was a great fight! I was so impressed by Matt it was unbelievable! When they read the judges cards I have never been so pissed at a UFC! I can’t believe they think Bisbing won that fight. Matt dominated him the entire time. Matt had barely a scratch and Bisbing was beat up! It had to be because they were in England but this fight needs to be overturned. This is rediculous!
http://www.matthamill6and0.com/
Last night I watched a phenominal fighter get the shaft. Going into the fight I would have been happy if either fighter had won. I liked both and thought either were capable of a clear victory. And one was, that was Matt. I was shocked and hugely impressed with his improvements since the Ultimate Fighter and was so excited to see him dominate, control and win that fight. Then the judges gave it to Bisbing who quickly jumped on the bandwagon and acted liked he did not just have his ass handed to him and started talking shit. Matt was right when he said he thought he had won that fight, he did, the judges (at least two of them) screwed him over. And yet he was gracious in loss, similar to GSP, always a standup gentleman. Bisbing is a piece of shit and I will never care to watch him fight again.
This all happened on a night when my childhood friend Dan, I call him Danny, fought Quinton. Of course I would have loved to see Danny win that fight, but am glad the judges did not screw over Quinton to give him that decision. Quinton clearly won the fight and I am sure Danny sees it that way too.
Dana White needs to hurry up and start some damage control to fix this situation. Matt is going to watch the fight over and over again and wonder why he got screwed over. I would say Bisbing would watch the fight and see he looked like the underdog who cleary got dominated but he is truly a piece of shit who would see it differently after his comments at the end of the fight. How do you sleep at night knowing you only won because of the location. If I were you I would get my head out my ass and ask for a re-match.
The UFC has served Matt Hammil a raw deal and they need to ammend the situation. Matt deserves the win.
Here is the contact emails, etc for the UFC
marketing@ufc.com,
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jwenk@ufc.com
United Kingdom:
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Dana White,
I along with thousands of other UFC fans am totally outraged over that sham of a decision in the Bisping/Hamill fight. Matt Hamill won that fight and earned the victory fair and square. Although it is noble of you to give jobs to those two unemployed jurors from the OJ trial it looks like they botched another one. Giving favor to Bisping in a 29-28 decision while Cecil Peoples scored the fight 30-27 for Hamill is proof enough that something is rotten in London. And the only thing more disturbing than that sham is how you and everyone at UFC have not said a word about it. It is painfully obvious to us that you have manipulated the outcome of that contest in favor of a hometown fighter to broaden your pay per view base there. While we appreciate that this was a free event you must remember the hundreds and in some case thousands of dollars some of us have layed out in support of your organization here at home. Although unlikely, I am holding out hope that you will do the right thing and publicly recognize the injustice that you have brought on that young man Matt Hamill and subsequently restore the faith that many of us have lost in the integrity of the UFC.
Outraged in NJ
Dana White
Zuffa, LLC
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Everybody Should give Mr. White a call or write a letter. His message says they will get back to you. His personal e-mail address could not be found but this is the contact info for his office.
What an awful display of class by Bisping especially considering that Hamill obviously was the victor. The UFC should be ashamed of their obvious marketing scheme. I will be boycotting the UFC unless this is made right.
i dont know why people are blaming dana..he had no control on the judges score card…im pissed off to but it’s not danas fault..
lets put that cocky motherfucker bisping in the octagon against wanderlei for his ufc return in december
Congrats Michael Bisping and the UFC, I’m switching to the IFL. At least it wan’t on PPV, or else I’d want my money back. On the night when the UFC was supposed to reach new heights in prominence as it combines with Pride, it comes accross as either corrupt or incompetent. A classless, one-dimensional chump got beaten around the ring by a class act like he had never fought a round in his life, and an inspiring contender overcoming his disability is robbed not because he’s deaf, but because the judges are blind. Or corrupt.
This is complete bullshit. All $$ for Dana White and the MMA world id going down the shitter. Rampage already admitted that PRIDE tried to pay him off. Now we have the UFC starting to look like fucking WWE!!!!!! Holy shit, whats next a ladder match, or maybe a royal rumble? Matt Hammill is truely the winner and portrays a classy fighter. THE UFC DOSENT DESERVE HAMMILL. BISPING DOSENT DESERVE THE WIN. End of story.
[quote comment=”145911″]i dont know why people are blaming dana..he had no control on the judges score card…im pissed off to but it’s not danas fault..[/quote]
In response to the above comment…… Dana does have to take some responsibility for the decision that was made last night, because of the position he holds at the UFC. We will see what he does with his “position” over this horrible decision. Hopefully he will right the wrong in some way, to save the reputation of the UFC.
Honestly, how desperate is Dana for UK fans? From here on out, I’m going to make it a point to let everybody know that UFC is rigged. I’m disappointed, disgusted, and offended. Disappointed because I thought the UFC was different, not rigged like the rest; maybe Bodog can provide a little competition so the UFC won’t think they can pull this sh*t on their fans. Disgusted because it ruins a sport I thought was legit, also disgusted in Bisbing, that jerk knew that he obviously lost. He was running away the entire fight, was beat to sh*t, and then had the arrogance to call Hamill out the end. This needs to be rectified if UFC plans to be held with any kind of esteem in the world. Last question, where was Randy during the fight?
I have watched hundreds of mma fights from ufc, ifl, bodog, wec, pride, etc. and the bisping/hamill fight was crazy. hamill dominated the first round. the second in my opinion was alot closer than most will aknowledge. hamill did control the octagon and take bisping down at will but did little damage on ground. bisping kept getting up and did throw more combos while hamill mainly threw single jabs. round 2 was anybody’s. bisping dazed hamill to start the third and continued to throw combo’s while hamill just stalked. besides taking bisping down hamill didn’t do much else. the round could go to hamill because of the takedowns or to bisping because he did land more. that round was also very close so you could say hamill won but dominated the entire fight? i dont think so. if you dont agree watch the fight again and see for yourself. rampage wins a war that is way more important than this fight, and neither one of these two could do anything against jackson, henderson, liddell, rua, silva, ortiz, or the assassin. in my opinion rashad evens would crush them both easy.
Please sign this petition calling for a review of the Bisping-Hamill decision:
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I was #849!
That fight may have been the worst decision in professional sport. One judge scores the card 30-27 for Hamill. How the fuck is it possible that Bisping wins the fight? The audacity of Bisping accepting victory with such arrogance was sickening. What a fucking punk. The UFC must somehow overturn this decision. If this isn’t possible, let Hamill have another opportunity to chase Bisping around the ring. What a fucking joke. Shame on you UFC!
The Bisbing/Hammel fight is such a scam. Hey Dana and Joe, you got fucking submitted on this one. Time to tap out bitches.
absolutely a horrid forewarning of things to come in this sport.
http://bisping.tv/contact/
let him hear it.
Well im never watching that fake ufc shit ever again, matt dominated bispings ass, did u see him run like a scared lil girl from matt? that was fuckin funny! Matt won that fight hands down! Fuck you ufc i use to be a big fan, but will never watch your fake shit again!
That was a great decision….give the win to the guy who looks the most beat up and hope know one notices. Does the UFC respect their fans, after that joke of a decision it seems Dana White is more concerned in protecting his investments then promoting the athletics of the sport. Bisping at one point fell on his ass and proceed to run away from Hamil while he was on his rear, THERE’S YOUR WINNNER IN ALL HIS GLORY!!
That was the most disturbing, disgusting thing i have seen the ufc judges do. Those two judges should be FIRED ON THE SPOT and the decsion reversed. If dana wants to keep the UFC respectable he should make an example out of those judges and fire them and strip them of their paychecks. And by the way Bisping is such an asshole. He knew he lost and he was still a cocky little bastard. I honestly think he payed the judges. Did you see how relaxed he was when he came in. HE LOOKED LIKE HE WAS ON LSD.
this was the stupidest descision i have ever heard of. At the end of the fight Bisping knew he lost the fight u could see it on his face.
UFC 75: Hamill VS Bisping was rigged. I knew something like this would happen. Anyway, all I can say is that Hamill needs better coaches. He should train with the elite - just like Bisping. Had Hamill trained with better coaches, he would’ve taken out Bisping within the first round and there wouldn’t have been any decision. My heart goes out to Hamill and all the disappointed UFC fans. He’ll do better next time.
I will not purchase PPV UFC due to the absured decision of the judges in the Bisbing vs. Hammill fight.
Here’s a thought Replay the fight on PPV with the 3 original judges but also get 3 other judges to score teh fight as it’s played. Also let the fans vote during this time.
This is all about $$$ for Dana White and has truelly put an impact on all the fans belief that this sport is one of integrity. At this point as many can see, it no longer is.
ufc.com has a poll on the main page asking who fans thought won…
Petition for Dana White about bad fight decision !!!
Everyone who wants to make a difference and never see a bad fight decision and score card again in the UFC should please SIGN the petition in this link .. This petition is going to be sent to DANA WHITE about the terrible decision in Bisbing’s favor .. Please take action and fill out the PETITION on this link !!!!
alot of people on the net are pissed at the decison. Hammill won that fight. Its a real shame.. So Dana thinks Hammill is not marketable because he is deaf. This is discrimantion. Hammill won the fight. I was blown away at the decision. I almost threw my beer at the TV. Can we start an online petition for a rematch asap? This is going to turn alot of people off at UFC.. this will backfire on Dana White .. you watch.
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Even Ray Charles could see Hamill kicked Bisping’s ass. I totally agree with all the comments above. They say you can’t ever leave it to the judges but damn. That was ridiculous. I attended UFC Liddell v. Jackson. Now I am done with the UFC. I am glad football season has started.
Hammill got robbed bigtime - that was home-cooking and makes the UFC look like Boxing. Terrible decision…if that happens again I’m done with the UFC.
Wow! It makes me very happy to see that everyone here agrees that last night’s fight was total bullshit! I cannot believe that the UFC would let this happen and as many of you have already stated, Dana White should be ashamed.
My husband has been a UFC fan for many years while I’ve only participated in watching a few of the fights. I did have the privelidge of watching the reality show and must admit that I liked both figheters equally coming into this match. BUT it is completely obvious who one last nights fight and that’s Matt. He was so humble and to hear him say that the decision was made fair and square was amazing. While Bisbing on the otherhand did nothing to give support or resepect to Matt which was clearly deserved. I intend not to watch another UFC fight until this is dealt with.
Matt Hammil is a true champion and we here in TEXAS are his biggest fans and are so proud of him.
Matt - you rock! And F-U Dana White and UFC!!
I’m a perfect example of a “new” UFC fan who watched her first and last fight last night (because it was free on t.v.) If Hamill gets his chance to beat Bisping AGAIN and get credit for it, I’ll be the first to watch and cheer on Hamill again; otherwise, UFC and I had a very short romance.
“Go back to wrestling” … maybe Bisping ought to learn it; that’s one of the main reasons he looked like a lost little boy out there last night.
To those UFC fans who want to take a stand…the only power you have is in your pocket. Don’t pay to watch one more fake fight.
Matt Hamill is a real champion. He didn’t need to strut to the ring like Bisping did, and he still held his head high after the “slap in the face” he received from the judges. Bisping should take a few lessons from Hamill on how to fight and how to be a man!
micheal bisping is a bum, everytime I watch the fight it pisses me off more.. how can dana white be pulling this shit after criticizing boxing so much for doin the same thing… I am disgusted with the decision, somehtign must be done.
Dana White needs to make a stand not only for Matt but for UFC. Never go back to England or allow any UFC fights to be held there, if this is the way fights are going to be decided. Matt Hammill ROCKS!
Dana White better get out of Bisping’s bed. To scrutinize boxing for the same sh*t is unbelievable. I was seriously considering buying the Franklin-Silva fight but now why should waste my time and money on the UFC just to see another fixed fight. This is an outrage. Hell Hamill even won overall 86-85. To have such a huge difference from three judges is outragous. Bisping got the hometown two-judge discount.
[quote comment=”144955″]Matt Hamill was robbed.[/quote]
Boy, ain’t that the truth. I just wrote the UFC and let ‘em know (apparently so did thousands of fans with that poll) and realized Hamill was Robbed, bigtime. Even Bisping knew it, look at him just prior to the announcement, he thought he’d lost. THen of course started talking shit
when it went his way. Hometown crowd? Political decision? (UFC must want the English business REALLLY bad). I thought it was all standup, good fighting til tonight. SHAME on this
decision. At least Matt was a real Man and Gentleman, only saying that he’d fought a good fight when asked about the decision. DO this too many times, and UFC’s going to lose, and
bigtime. One more decision like that and I’ll find other entertainment, there’s plenty out there.
And I figure there’ll be a lot of folks agreeing with me, even fans of Bisping. He lost, Matt won,
and everyone knew it. What a shame.
Hawgs
The fickle crowd of hooligans even went from booing Hamill before the fight to praising him after and booing either Bisping shameless comments or the corrupt decision.
UFC, overturn the decision and publicly announce the firing of the two corrupt judges or at least an investigation of decision.
Also give Bisping the oppurtunity to publicly apologize for his post fight comments.
I have no interest in watching fixed fights.
Man hamill won that fight all the way
I think Hamill was SCREWED big time. That fight was RIGGED. They let the little hometown BOY win so UFC can move in on England and set up more UFC shit there. Fuck that. I feel for Hamill. Fuck Bisping. That’s not a legit win.
Well all good things must come to an end, and the UFC is on their way. If fights like Bisping vs Hamill are going to seem to have a predetermined winner my wife and I will stop watching. Bisping should be ashamed with the lack of respect he showed Matt after the fight. I can not imagine that Bisping believes that he won, that is just IGNORANT. Bisping
lost my respect, I have no interest in watching him fight agian. There needs to be a rematch but it still wont change the fact Hamill kicked Bisping ASS!!!
[quote comment=”146662″]I think Hamill was SCREWED big time. That fight was RIGGED. They let the little hometown BOY win so UFC can move in on England and set up more UFC shit there. Fuck that. I feel for Hamill. Fuck Bisping. That’s not a legit win.[/quote]
So true. . .Making a new empire in England with Bisping serving as the new amassador. The previews of new show makes the fighters look sooo pathedic and dumb and immature and undisciplined. In other word everything a good fighter is not but everthing that make for good rating on a cheap reality show. UFC has begun to turn into the WWF. I am done with it.
I feel sick to my stomach. Hamill clearly won and demonstrated a lot of class. How he kept his cool and gave props to Bisping after such a disgusting decision I don’t know. Bisping is a bitch with no integrity. I had a feeling that something like this would happen. In Bisping vs Sinosic, Sinosic almost caught Bisping in a submission, and the quick stoppage that followed seemed a little fishy. This stinks a million times worse. I’ve enjoyed watching the UFC for years, but it’s over now.
Saw the fight 3 times, with my glasses on each time.
BISPING 29-28.
EVERYONE JUST CALM DOWN!! I STAND BEHIND THE UFC!! It’s been one business day since UFC 76…Let’s just calm down and let the Boss and everyone else at Zuffa figure this stuff out and decide what their gonna do….don’t start talking BOYCOT and shit….I understand everyone’s frustration…but don’t let our beloved sport go down the tubes over this…I’m glad every one is venting and I’m glad everyone is expressing their view on the fight…but don’t start talking boycot!! My God…if this sport falls apart now…I just don’t know what I’ll do…Mr. White is a legit individual and I’m sure he’s gonna do the right thing. Give our guys in the UFC a chance to react to this…by all means…vent frustrations but don’t kill our sport…the livelihood of too many athletes are at stake here and Mr. White knows this…rest assured he’s working on it….give UFC a chance to respond before you walk away from this sport…With my deepest sincerity…I implore all that read this statement. Calm down and let the administrators at Zuffa figure out what to do. They have no control over what the judges decide…this is obviously a first for them and they have to decide what to do in response to it…PLEASE DON’T BOYCOTT UFC. VENT, BUT KEEP THINGS IN CHECK AND HAVE SOME FAITH IN MR. WHITE. I’VE MET HIM PERSONALLY AND HE WANTS NOTHING BUT THE BEST FOR OUR SPORT. IF THERE WAS FOUL PLAY, HE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
-Rex Fett
rexfett@yahoo.com
[quote comment=”146297″]The fickle crowd of hooligans even went from booing Hamill before the fight to praising him after and booing either Bisping shameless comments or the corrupt decision.
UFC, overturn the decision and publicly announce the firing of the two corrupt judges or at least an investigation of decision.
Also give Bisping the oppurtunity to publicly apologize for his post fight comments.
I have no interest in watching fixed fights.[/quote]
there was a few boo’s when matt hamil came out form the English fans this was due to the fact of the trash talking that hamil had said towards bisping. of course us English fans are going to boo the fighter were against, of course we want the english fighter to win, there was a few american fans there waving american flags there was no problems no one was giving them any s**t, the booing was towards the fighter not the crowds and, really its not like he could hear us booing him is there so it was a bit pointless.
I think a one fight boycott would be a wonderful shot across the bow to Dana White to get his act in order, support his fans by fixing the judging of the UFC.
Dana White’s only two comments on the travesty so far have been that he thought Matt Hamill won 2 to 1 but then later stated that, “These controversies that come up don’t mean a thing to me and they roll off my back with no problem because I know it’s all (expletive),” he said. “We’re the top dogs and every little thing we do is news and people create these wacky (expletive) conspiracies. The bottom line is, we’ve embraced regulation, we want the sport to be regulated everywhere, but I’m not going to stop putting fights in the U.K. just because they don’t have a commission.”
Dana White is so preoccupied with the criticism of his company that he’s failing to acknowledge the root of this particular situation: that the judging for MMA is quickly proving itself to be broken.
Please post this is as many other forums as you know. Please ban the UFC for one fight, UFC 76, until Dana White makes a broad statement on rule changes and addressingthis problem.
[quote comment=”146960″]I feel sick to my stomach. Hamill clearly won and demonstrated a lot of class. How he kept his cool and gave props to Bisping after such a disgusting decision I don’t know. Bisping is a bitch with no integrity. I had a feeling that something like this would happen. In Bisping vs Sinosic, Sinosic almost caught Bisping in a submission, and the quick stoppage that followed seemed a little fishy. This stinks a million times worse. I’ve enjoyed watching the UFC for years, but it’s over now.[/quote]
i was there at UFC 70 at the M.E.N and yea the whole crowd went quite when bisping got caught in that submission, but he got out of it most fighter would have tapped on replays you seethe determination on his face, and then they stood up and he kick the crap otof sinosic and if it hadn’t of been stopped whe it was sinosic would still be in a hospital today. and on saturday he didn’t have such a good fight he wasn’t expecting hamil to stand up and fight he was shocked, but in the end he won on decision
[quote comment=”146359″]Man hamill won that fight all the way[/quote]
AGREED!!!!!! But Hamill does need to work on his Ju Jitsu. He had multiple opportunities to finish that fight but didn’t. It should have never made it to the judges.
i my self will no longer pay for a ufc fight i will stick it in Dana whites ass and down load it for free
[quote comment=”145391″]I think the Bisping decision win was made on purpose to save lives. If Bisping didn’t win the people watching in the stadium would have rioted. Lol.
Overall bad call and the UFC’s credibilty will suffer for it. I watch MMA beause of the realism. Cecil Peoples was the only good judge… the other 2 judges should be fired.[/quote]
To save lives… lol
Cecil Peoples is the worst judge and ref at that. He should never be allowed to judge any form of contact sport. Watch the Pete Sell Vs Nate Quarry match and you’ll see what i mean. It was the only Brit. judge to give Hamil the 30-27.
I’m pretty angry.
“Hello to everyone on the Underground. I have been reading the underground for years. I used to post quite a bit. Then I decided it would be better for me to stay out of all the arguments. I want to thank all of you guys for being so nice to me through the years. I have seen almost no negative posts about me here until now. I first started judging the UFC in 1996. I have been judging UFC almost twice as long as any other active judge. I am a former kick boxer and have been training grappling for 13 years. I am not here to argue with any of you or tell you that your opinion is wrong. I am only going to tell you why I judged the fight the way I did. Watch the fight again and turn off the sound. Commentary can color what you see. No doubt Hamill dominated the 1st. He hurt Bisping with a right hand right off the bat and again near the end of the round. He out scored Bisping and busted him up. It was a very impressive round for Hamill but still a 10-9 round. Not dominant enough for a 10-8. Watch the beginning of the second round closely. When Hamill throws the jab, Bisping slips the punch and hits him with his own counter jab. It is hard to see on camera because Hamill’s back is to the camera. His back was also to Goldie who was talking like the beginning of this round was like a continuation of the 1st. If you look you will see that Hamill is facing me giving me a clear view of what is landing. Bisping was landing the jab again and again and not getting hit. Hamill got 2 takedowns in rounds 2 and 3 but did very little with them. Bisping is using an active guard trying to turn for armbars and sweeps, Hamill is doing very little on top. Bisping is keeping him from scoring or improving his position. In the 3rd round Bisping actually lands more punchesd from the bottom than Hamill does from the top. In both the 2nd and 3rd rounds Bisping does more scoring. Striking. Under pride style scoring Hamill would have won. He did more damage, but it was all in the 1st round. By 10 point must system Bisping won the fight 2 rounds to 1 . 29-28 Bisping. Sometime the angle you see the fight effects your decision. That is why they put the judges on 3 different sides. BY THE WAY MARIO YAMASAKI THOUGHT BISPING WON ROUNDS 2 AND 3 ALSO. MARIO WAS THE REF AND HAD A BETTER VIEW THAN ANY OF US. I have never taken a payoff as some of you have suggested and never will. You may not agree with my decision but please don’t question my honesty.”
This is from one of the Judge’s ( Jeff Mullens ) , Wow , how ignorant. He knows hes wrong yet they still refuse to admit it.
Fuck the UFC.
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I got really pissed off when i saw the match. Couldnt believe what i was seeing, really. I feel truly sorry for Hamill since we all know that he should have won that bout, and seeing as he is deaf, he deserves all respect in the world for it. I had no grudge against bisping before this match, but something really needs to be done about this.
I just watched the fight for the second time. I asked a few of my buddies what they thought. The consensus in Wrestling heavy Iowa is that Hamil got ripped off. We are all very disappointed, I truly believed these past couple years that the UFC was the real deal. I do not recall any fights where the decision was biased, or flat wrong. I understand Bisbing is the only hope for England and that the Brits are a strong market for the sport. However, to erroneously or malisciously give this fight to Bisbing will have serious repercussions for the future of this sport. I live in 40 year old Culdesac America and I can tell you I will not spend money to watch a corrupt sport. Better right this wrong Dana.
I just watched the fight for the second time and once again could not see anything that would lead any reasonable fighter/judge to see bisping as the winner. There was absolutely no point in the fight where bisping pushed forward. He was constantly retreating from Hamill. Hamill had multiple takedowns each round, some of which he just got up and LET bisping get to his feet. What’s worth more takedowns or the recovery? Hamill also proved to be a better striker. I counted only 7 power hits from bisping, most in the third round. Hamill definitely won the 1st and 2nd round. I could see the judges giving Bisping the 3rd only for his attempt to be the aggressor in the first 10 seconds and the last 30. Even after the fight they didn’t have any footage to play of bisping beating on Hamill. And to top it off, bisping unleashed his arrogance and lack of respect talking crap about Hamill after the decision. Even after that (whether he heard it or not) Hamill still demonstrated respect and gave his hats off to bisping. When I first watched the fight with 12 others, we all were shocked and disappointed at the apparent “setup”. Maybe it was a PR move to build support in London, or the judges (american) might have feared a roit. No matter what the circumstances, it all left a very very bad tarnish in the fairness and accuracy of judging in the UFCs. Dana White should be ashamed…
Wow!! I just got back from vacation and watched the replay of UFC 75. I’m shocked by the Hamill/Bisping outcome. I’m a HUGE Bisping fan, but Hamill clearly won that fight. I don’t understand how this happened because Hamill didn’t just barely win - He DOMINATED the whole fight. And by the look on Bisping’s face after the last round, he KNEW that he’d lost! But instead of being graceful, he was a jerk! Bisping - you’re a sore winner/loser.
In addition, I just read Dana White’s comments on the decision and he says that he tells everyone to just not let the fight go to the judges…. well wouldn’t it be easier to just TRAIN your judges?? The variation between the scores should embarrass Dana! In the same statement, Dana White also said that this was rematch perfect. That comment makes me think that something shady is going on. Create controvery… have a rematch… sell more tickets… nice business model, Dana! Clean up your house. There have been far too many misses in the UFC lately…. one of your fighters is carrying around an undeserved first loss!
an open letter to Michael Bisping and Dana White:
Bisping: I hope you were paid well for your part in that obviously fixed match.
Hopefully, with the money you have earned it will give you time to think about integrity and honor.
You clearly did not win your match against Hamill, but still had the lack of character to even shake the guys hand.
Hamill, accepted the judges decision and gave you respect, even though he had every right to be enraged.
Clearly the UFC has gone the way of boxing and is not interested in promoting fair fights.
At least in wrestling they admit its faked. I will no longer support the UFC in any way.
Bisping: I hope you find something else to give your life some meaning, because when youre 60, the only thing people are going to remember about you is how you took a bag of cash in a rigged match.
White: why do we need another type of “sports entertainment?” I watched the UFC because I was under the impression that it was real.
Now, how can I be sure any of the matches I have seen were real? Particularly any invoing Martinez, Hughes and Liddel?
Like I said, Im through with the UFC unless the fight is disqualified and the judges permanently banned from the “sport”.
Whats next? A “masked” fighter? What a load of crap. Thanks for nothing.
Wow! Just when I thought UFC was the only honest combat sport left! You guys robbed Matt Hamill and Bisping clearly lost.
Even the announcers were having a hard time selling the company line. I guess it would have messed up some grand plan by Dana White. The obvious is he’s trying to expand his reach into other countries for obvious reasons. It’s the same direction other sports have gone.
Murphy’s Golden Rule: He Who Has The Gold Makes The Rules. Bisping losing in front of his home country fans wouldn’t have fit the company line.
It just shows that UFC isn’t close what it pretends to be; FAIR. I’m a fan but if this crap keeps happening I’ll go back to watching everything else that’s fixed out there: Boxing, Wrestling and Politics!
Matt Hamill showed more class last night than all of the UFC big wigs combined. A lot of people believed UFC was different; it’s not and it’s a tragedy.
That pissed me off. I felt like I had just watched a WWE fight and half expected Vince McMahon to come strolling down the aisle with a microphone in his hand. What kind of bulls**t comment is that from Dana White? Saying you shouldn’t let the fight go to the judges. Well, no s**t, Sherlock! But if and when it does go to the judges, every fighter has the right to a fair decision. I used to respect Dana White but now I just kind of think he’s a dumb asshole.
Maybe it’ll sell more tickets and pay-per-views for him but I’m done shelling out $40 a month for UFC. I’ll keep my money from now on and Dana, Bisping & Zuffa can all kiss my ass. Good luck with your new batch of fans. By the way, they really like flashy costumes and awesome back stories. More work for your script writers…uh…I mean, judges.
Don’t blame Dana White he’s not the judge and jury here.
Hamill should have won and the damage of poor judging is done. Dana White he’s a word of advice never use those three judges again as they didn’t see the same fight and the should all be axed from the sport! A judge is supposed to be unbiased!
TheBoss
[quote comment=”145968″] in my opinion rashad evens would crush them both easy.[/quote]
this comment just made me laugh.
Bottom line: Hamill won and EVERYONE knows it! Bisping is a classless jerk off!
I will never order a pay per view with Bisping on the card, EVER!!! His comments about Hamill “back to wrestling for you” just ticked me off to no end!!! Who in the hell does he think he is? He is soooo classless!
Just watched this fight AGAIN and I am still pissed. Matt Hamil clearly beat Bisping down, I swear if I see another fight like this go to the judges and they screw the underdog I will never again watch UFC. I can find other things to do like watch “Pro” Boxing aka pillow fighting.
Dana get your crap together and if the judges are that stupid get new ones. You cant sell me on those are the only judges around…
[quote comment=”79663″][quote post=”2429″]And i thought we might hear Bisbing vs Shogun, Sheesh
UFC wouldn’t dare put their poster boy for the Uk against Shogun. Shogun would eat him alive.
Hopefully we see this matchup sometime soon…so I can laugh at you when Bisping takes Shogun out
Do you hoestly think he could take Shogun?
Bisping can take Shogun.I am a huge MB fan and that was the fight I was hoping for,it would of been a chance for MB to proove himself to all the doubters.[/quote]
Wow, you are not only a “huge MB fan” but you are hanging from his nuts. There is absolutely no way in hell that Bisping can beat Shogun right now. Thinking that Bisping can beat Shogun is actually laughable. Do you know who Shogun is, or do you just watch reality shows? Look at what Shogun has done against TOP NOTCH competition at 205. He demolished everyone he faced, including Rampage (yeah, I know he got submitted by Babalu very early in his career). Bisping’s hardest fight to date was against Elvis Sinosic. Before coming to the UFC, Bisping fought in the UK. I don’t think there are many good fighters over there, especially when compared to UFC and PRIDE. I think he had said that Ross Pointon was one of his toughest fights prior to TUF. LOL. Bisping would not last past the first round against Shogun.[/quote]
My name is Burt Wright. I love MMA. I love all combat sports. The simplicity of two combatants enter and 1 victor emerges is a special thing to me. I feal like I have been cheated. This fgight wasn’t even close. This outrageous crap is going to be a much larger blight on the sport than just a few angry fans. I finally got my brother and a few other friends to sit and watch. Everyone was so excited and I thaught they were surely going to be fans for life. Then the Hammill/ Bisping bullcrap happens. Immediately 5 guys all lost all interest in UFC instantly. WHY WHY WHY WHY? You guys sold out our sport and for what? The UK? Do you really think this is the way to globalize the sport? By creating a paper champion whos claim to fame will allways be a fixed fight? Not only have you devistated the trust of hundreeds of your thousands of hell maybe millions of your fans but you’ve also tainted the mind set of what could have been a great fighter. How can Hammill ever trust the UFC again? You also raised the hand of a guy who was obviously SCARED after just a few minutes. SERIOUSLY this fight looked like a grown man beating on a 15 year old boy. I am disgusted. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE dont ruin this sport like boxing. WHERE ARE THE REST OF YOU FIGHTERS? You guys saw the fight. SAY SOMETHING.
Dana must do something about this ridiculous decision on the Hamill-Bisping fight. Or, UFC loses all credibility.
Even my wife was pissed - and she is a Bisping fan.
[quote]That fight may have been the worst decision in professional sport. One judge scores the card 30-27 for Hamill. How the fuck is it possible that Bisping wins the fight? The audacity of Bisping accepting victory with such arrogance was sickening. What a fucking punk. The UFC must somehow overturn this decision. If this isn’t possible, let Hamill have another opportunity to chase Bisping around the ring. What a fucking joke. Shame on you UFC![/quote]
i have always turned my friends on to the sport based on the respect of the fighters, the truth of the war, but that fight made my stomach turn… I never want the ufc i evangelize to cater to back door politics and cash… this was egregious especially given hey were in london and worried about honoring a deaf american as a champion. is it down to damage control dana?
very sickening fight,i find it very simelar to the tyson griffin vs clay”the carpenter” guida almost the same fucking bullshit,only because randy couture in griffin\s corner he won…
ufc is going downhill fast,they hype the fights so much and they all suck now,ufc 77 tim silvia vs brandon vera BLEW BIG FAT CHUNKS that was so gay,there all friends and there over paid underworked,overrated blah blah blah its all rigged
micheal bisping i cant beleive he trash talked someone who whooped his ass the whole fight,i hope rahad evans slaps the lips right of him.
I was just watching a re-run of UFC 75 and what a fucking joke. Bisping is a joke. Hamill kicked his ass from the start. Give me a break. The Bisping vs Evans fight that occurred a few events later would have been better with a Hamill vs Evans fight!
Just watched a re-run and saw firsthand what all the guys in my shop were bitching about. That decision was a complete fix - total joke - and made a mockery of UFC. Never had a feeling either way about Bisping - but now WE ALL KNOW he is a jackass.
Bisping lost the fight on 75 hands down. I just watched the re-run again on Spike and still cant even believe what I saw. UFC said it best when talking about how “marketable” Kongo will be….its all about dolla dolla bill. The fact that UFC was in the UK is why Bisping won the fight. Im disgusted with what Luffa and Dana White are doing with the UFC. Matt Hamill IS UNDEFEATED!!!!!!!!
here fuking listen right!!! i been reading this shit. all ov yous are total divvys. bisping is a wkd fighter. i seen him at newcastle arena live sitting watchin the fight. his total attatude towords ufc is grat. he waz shouing out and everything. he is the total boyo!!! … bispin if u read this keep it up mate.
Micheal Bisping got his arse spanked, and Matt Hamill stood up and boxed ROFL. Bisping you got beat bad, what a disgraceful call.
I just saw a rerun of the Bisping/Hamill fight, and am absolutely shocked that the outcome was not contested by Hamill’s camp to the full extent of the law. Zuffa should be ashamed of even re-airing this fight as the decision is so controversial that even the most steadfast fans should question the UFC’s credibility. This should trigger market erosion not unlike boxing in the 90’s.
worst fight i ever saw absolutely shocked might start watching wwe