Ladies and gentleman … It’s time!
UFC 72: “Victory” is set for this afternoon, June 16, at the Odyssey Arena in Belfast, northern Ireland.
The pay-per-view (PPV) portion of the card will begin at 3 p.m. ET/noon PT.
Up-to-the-minute quick updates for the undercard action, which began around 1 p.m. ET, have already begun. We’ll have live blow-by-blow blogging during the main card action.
UFCmania.com reader DrubySunshine will check in a little before the main card starts at 3 p.m. to deliver a detailed account as it happens, LIVE.
Thanks again for stopping in for our LIVE coverage and commentary of UFC 72. Feel free to leave a comment or 10 before you leave and chat with many of our readers during the show — it always turns out to be a good time.
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For UFC 72 results just click the link below. WARNING: There are potential spoilers contained in the jump.
Quick results:
Rich Franklin defeats Yushin Okami via unanimous decision
Forrest Griffin defeats Hector Ramirez via unanimous decision.
Jason MacDonald defeats Rory Singer via technical knockout (strikes) in round two.
Tyson Griffin defeats Clay Guida via split decision.
Ed Herman defeats Scott Smith via submission (rear naked choke) in round two.
Marcus Davis defeats Jason Tan via knockout in round one.
Eddie Sanchez defeats Colin Robinson via technical knockout (strikes) in round two.
Dustin Hazelett defeats Stevie Lynch via submission (anaconda choke) in round one.
Play-by-play live main card commentary:
Drubysunshine here to give the blow by blow hardhitting action of what I think is a very underrated Belfast card. Its almost time so sit back and enjoy folks this one should be a card that has a little bit of everything for us fight fans.
Note — This will go from the bottom up; therefore, scroll toward the bottom for the latest results. Remember to REFRESH the page for the latest updates!
Rich Franklin vs. Yushin Okami (185-pound limit)
Round one: Rich Franklin looks extremely focused and intense. Okami calm and confident. The crowd is pro-Franklin. Okami is huge he looks much bigger than Rich. Both fighters touch gloves. A quick exchange of punches. Both guys are southpaws. Feeling each other out. Head kick by Okami. Franklin looks calm. Okami lands a right. Body shot by Franklin. Leg kick by Okami. Nice left by Okami. Knee from Okami. Very slow pace right now. Okami is refusing to chase Franklin. Okami lands a right. They clinched up against the cage. Some knees from Ace. Okami throws some knees. Big John sperated them. Huge leg kick by Rich. Franklin is looking for his distance. Leg kick by Franklin. Big leg kick by Ace. The crowd is booing for the slow pace. Okami looks comfortable with it, Franklin a little frustrated.
Round two: Nice right by Okami. Franklin with a leg kick. Nice left by Ace. Okami with a right. Franklin follows with a right and a head kick. Leg kick by Franklin, Okami counters with one of his own. Okami shoots and has underhooks. Franklin pushed him into the fence. The crowd is booing the slow pace once again. Both fighters using knees from the clinch then Big John separates them. Leg kick by Ace. HUGE right by Okami he stuns Rich a little. Body shot by Franklin. Head kick by Okami, followed by a right hook. Nice combo by Franklin. Head kick from Franklin. HUGE left from Rich. The bell rings and more booing from the crowd. Franklin looks to have hurt his left hand at the end of the round. this fight is very slow paced Okami needs more offense and Rich looks hesitant.
Round three: Okami misses a flying knee. Nice right by Okami countered by a leg kick from Ace. Body shot from Franklin. Body kick from Ace. Both fighters clinch up, Okami takes him down and now has side control. Okami working for half guard while dropping punches. Full mount for Okami! Franklin is scrambling! Okami keeps full guard. Okami lands some elbows. Franklin scrambles, but Okami has a guillotine. Franklin escapes and is now on top trying to mount but he looks tired. Ace throws down Okami now their on the feet. Okami is going for a Kimura! Its deep!! Franklin escapes!! Hes now on top, Franklin lands an elbow. The bell rings. Round 3 was how I imagined the whole fight it was good action, might be too little to late for Okami however. Franklin needs to be thanking his lucky stars that he got out of that Kimura b/c it was locked DEEP and it looked like he would lose for the 45 seconds it was locked in. But to his credit he toughed his way out of it. Eddie Bravo has it 29-28 for Franklin. Id have to agree. However this was a lackluster performance by both fighters.
Result: Rich “Ace” Franklin via unanimous decision.
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Forrest Griffin vs. Hector Ramirez (205-pound limit)
Round one: Forrest throws a leg kick followed bu a right. Griffen lands a right then Ramirez gets a take down and is in half guard. Forrest scrambles to the feet. Head kick by Griffen. Leg kick by Griffen. Forrest lands a left Ramirez counters with an uppercut. More leg kicks by Forrest. Huge left and right by Ramirez! Two knees by Forrest. Forrest is cut under his eye. Body kick and a jab by Forrest. Ramirez is throwing haymakers. Head kick by Forrest. Ramirez counter with a right. Another head kick by Ramirez. Huge right by Forrest! Leg kick by Forrest followed with two great punches. Two more kicks by Forrest with a HUGE head kick. Ramirez counters. Another leg kick by Griffen followed by a right. That round goes to Forrest by a nose in what was a solid overall round for both fighters.
Round two: Forrest comes out with another kick, Ramirez clinches Griffen lands some great knees to the body. High kick by Griffen. Right hand by Forrest. Ramirez lands a rolling uppercut. Both fighter pacing themselves. Forrest lands a combo. Great leg kick by Forrest. Forrest is pushing the action. Ramirez lands a solid right. Head kick by Forrest. Body kick by Ramirez. Forrest lands a HUGE combo! Another head kick by Forrest Sick dog counters with a right. Leg kick by Griffen. HUGE right, Forrest is landing BOMBS. Stoppage due to a knee to the groin from Griffen. Ramirez looks gassed. STarts backup huge kick ot the head by Griffen. Ramirez is trying to land a haymaker. Forrest working his combo’s. Griffen lands a solid right. Ramirez looks frustrated. That round again goes to Forrest, his boxing is just extremely sharp. Ramirez is getting an earful from Ibarra in his corner.
Round three: Ramirez says he cant feel his left leg in his corner. Forrest has worked it. Huge left by Griffen followed by a combo and head kick. Three uppercuts from the clinch by Griffen. Ramirez shoots! He lands 2 rights, but Griffen scrambles. Leg kick by Griffen. Griffen looks calm and confident Ramirez frustrated still. Left right combo by Forrest followed by a head then body kick. Big knee from the clinch by Griffen. Monster leg kick by Forrest! Ramirez is limping heavily. Uppercut by Forrest. Two jabs by Forrest followed by a huge right and knee! Great combo by Forrest and another leg kick followed by a ighi kick. Superman punch followed by 2 uppercuts by Griffen! Two more huge body shots. Head kick by Forrest! The bell rings, this one looks like a unanimous decision for Forrest. He looked much more calm and decisively better with his hands not to mention his vicious leg kicks. Eddie Bravo has it 29-28 for Forrest.
Result: Forrest Griffen via unanimous decision.
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Jason MacDonald vs. Rory Singer (185-pound limit)
Round one: Both fighters distancing themselves. Leg kick by McDonald. Both fighters tie up. Up against the cage in a clinch the Athlete is working foot stomps. MacDonald goes for the sinlge leg but is stopped. Singer with a solid knee from the clinch. Singer nails two knees follwed by two solid rights but gets taken down. McDonald on top in Singers full guard. MacDonald throws some good pucnhes. ROry with two great upkicks and scrambles to his feet. MacDonald shoots but is stuffed. Rory with a knee from the blicnh and lands in full mount! SInger has his back! MacDonald reverses to the top in Rorys full guard. MacDonald is bleeding from the side of his head from one of the knees. Singer locks in a triangle! MacDonald is saved by the bell Singer might have finished him. I give that round to Singer.
Round two: They touch gloves, Singer looks confident. Leg kick by Jason. MacDonald shoots and gets the take down and now is in Rorys full guard. MacDonald punching to the body. Elbow by MacDonald. Another body shot by the Athlete. Now MacDonald is sparying punches but the crowd is booing wanting more action. MacDonald with some Heavy body shots from Rorys guard. MacDonal in full mount!! Hes raining punches! This might be it!!! MacDonald rains 3 elbows and thats it the ref stops it! Rory looked dominant the whole fight, but seem to loose his edge and energy working from the bottom and Jason MacDonald took advantage of that for the victory.
Result: Jason MacDonald via TKO (strikes) at 3:18 of the 2nd round.
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Tyson Griffin vs. Clay Guida (155-pound limit)
Round one: Both fighters looking for their distance. Short exchange. Griffen with a leg kick, Guida going for a takedown Griffen lands a sick uppercut. Guida gets the takedown, Griffen has the guillotine. Griffen still has it in half guard. Guida escapes. Their back to the feet. Griffen has his back and drops two punches. Another scramble, Girffen hits two more punches and a knee. Guida with a knee to the body from the clinch. Griffen lands a solid knee. HUGE right by Griffen and counter by Guida with a great counter right. Both guys exchange jabs. Griffen lands a good uppercut followed by a headkick. Guida with great right. Griffens takedown defense is remarkable.
Round two: Griffen throws a huge haymaker. Girffen with a sharp jab. Headkick by Guida then a scramble, but Griffen stops the takedown again! Guida is relentless. Guida gets a takedown, but Griffen is in top. Back to the feet both fighters exchange punches. Leg kick by griffen. Guida with a headkick and goes for the takedown. Griffen with a German suplex. Griffen on top. This is great action! Guida is on top then switches into a knee bar! Giriffen raining BEAST body shots while in the knee bar!! Griffen now has aheel hook, Guida spins out! WOW! Guida has the back with both hooks! Guida has choke, but Griffen slams hit out. Guida still no his back but is high. Griffen trying to scramble out. This is a great back and forth fight!!! It looks dead even through 2, both guys are relentless this is non stop!!
Round three: Last round both guys exchange. Guida working a jab. Both fighters exhange and Girffen land a knee followed by a body kick. Guida shoots. Girffen escapes. Leg kick by Grifen counter with a right then Guida shoots! Giffen with great defense. Guida has the back, but Griffen rolls. Heel hook by Griffen with some hammer fists. Guida with sick backfists!! WOW! Guida on top in half guard. Guida has his back but Griffen rolls again! Guida on top in half guard. Guida dropping some puches. Elbows from the bottom by Griffen. Griffen has full guard from bottom. Griffen lands an up kick! Hammer fists by Guida. Guida still on top in half guard. Guida throwing punches. WOW this is a great fight Guida raining punches to close it out. I think Guida edged this fight out in the 3rd, but WOW this was an amazing amazing fight. Incredible action, non stop. Eddie Bravo has it 29-28 for Guida.
Result: Tyson Griffin via Split Decision
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Ed Herman vs. Scott Smith (185-pound limit)
Round one: Herman throws a left then a sick takedown. Herman in Smiths full guard. Herman raining body shotsdown.Ed posturing up. Dropping some punches. Smith gets it to the feet and now their clinched. Herman relentless with the pressure pushing the pace. Smith throws a left. Herman nailing knees out of the clinch. Slam by Herman, almost falls into a guillotine. Herman keeping the pace moving with punches from Smiths full guard. Herman lands a couple elbows. HUGE elbow by Herman and he cuts up Smith badly! Herb Dean stops it to check the cut, but Smith is good to go. Smith wit a couple hammer fists from his back. Ed is posturing up perfectly and continuously raining elbows and punches. Smith reverses! Hes on top now going for a leg lock! Now Herman escapes and has Smiths back. Herman sinks a choke then Smith reverses! Thats the end of rd 1 Herman dominated, but Smith is putting in a gutsy performance.
Round two: Both guys are breathing deeply. Looking for distance. Herman shoots for a takedown, Smith stops is and is going for a guillotine. Herman gets a take down, but Smith has the guillotine in DEEP. Herman escapes! WOW great action. Herman in Smiths full guard and throwing some bombs. Another vicious elbow. Two more monstrous elbows! Herman has Smiths back sinks in a choke and Smith taps out!! WOW, Great performance by Herman he looked great his best fight ever and Smith was respectable and never stopped working.
Result: Ed Herman via Rear Naked Choke 2:25 of the 2nd round.
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119 Comments »
It’s true this event will be great I’m sure. The UFN this past Tuesday was awesome but the big names, the titles,etc. are what market the event. When a consumer throws out $40 a month loyaly you have to return the favor. PPV are generating well into the millions. MArketbale product…successful products mut produce. On paper the event will be great. To the new guy that UFC is trying to hook as a fan the event looks bad.
Looking forward to seeing UFC in my home town even though the lineup is of UFN quality. I’m really wondering what kinda person in Belfast would be interested in ufc and just hope it isnt a bunch of scumfucks.
Oh and a friend and I have put some money on okami to win… I think franklin is on his way out of the top ranks of ufc.
what time are the weigh ins?
[quote comment="79487"]Looking forward to seeing UFC in my home town even though the lineup is of UFN quality. I’m really wondering what kinda person in Belfast would be interested in ufc and just hope it isnt a bunch of scumfucks.
Oh and a friend and I have put some money on okami to win… I think franklin is on his way out of the top ranks of ufc.[/quote]
Any particular reason you think Franklin is going going gone? I’m just curious because he looked like old Rich against McDonald.
Just wondering what triggers moderation on this board- naughty words and urls? That last reply is awaiting moderation I think because I replied to someone who used a naughty word. If that’s the case, then I’ll clean up the original text from now on.
[quote comment="79768"][quote comment="79487"]Looking forward to seeing UFC in my home town even though the lineup is of UFN quality. I’m really wondering what kinda person in Belfast would be interested in ufc and just hope it isnt a bunch of scumfucks.
Oh and a friend and I have put some money on okami to win… I think franklin is on his way out of the top ranks of ufc.[/quote]
Any particular reason you think Franklin is going going gone? I’m just curious because he looked like old Rich against McDonald.[/quote]
I just dont think he has he old game back plus the fact that the devision is much stronger now. Style wise I think okami will be able to survive the standup long enough to take him down. Okami should be even with him on the betting odds IMHO. Either way I forcast a great fight with okami pushing the pace
Kind of cool we`ll have the results in the afternoon.
any clue if we’ll be getting updates on the undercard fights as they become final? thanks guys
Okami will win. I got 100.00 on that fight, so I hope I’m right.
Dustin Hazelett def. Steve Lynch by Submission (Anaconda Choke) at 2:50, R1
Eddie Sanchez def. Colin Robinson by TKO (due to strikes) at 0:32, R2
Herman coming into In the Air Tonight?
Well dressed Irish crowd… All the ppl in the front row had on jeans and T-shirts, and most were missing teeth. I love the Irish, my kinda ppl. Beats the hell outta a Vegas crowd any day.
Dustin pulls off another victory! He is the new Jon Fitch, a great fighter but unknown!
Was that Brandon Vera with Ibarra?
[quote comment="80811"]Okami will win. I got 100.00 on that fight, so I hope I’m right.[/quote]
I hope your wrong, but overall it will be an EXTREMELY entertaining fight.
Rich Franklin Round 3 Via Decision is my Prediction
I thought someone was blogging the bouts?
Ed Herman by RNC rd 2 over Scott Smith.
Randy has gone for the bald look. Not bad. He looks even more like a badass now.
[quote comment="80900"]Randy has gone for the bald look. Not bad. He looks even more like a badass now.[/quote]
When did Randy have hair?
The Smith-Herman bought sounded entertaining…
Crowd into it or what?
Crowd is def into it. Come on, the Irish and fighting are like PBJ.
Great wrestling by both Guida and Griffin. Even exchanges on the feet. I’m giving the edge to Griffin, but not by much.
End rd 1.
Is someone supposed to be blogging this, Druby Sunshine, perhaps?
Is Chuck there, or is he drinking beer in SLO??
you have the Rory fight listed twice
Griffin tried to suplex Guida, but Guida landed on Tyson’s head!
Both of these guys have just GREAT wrestling, awesome fight, as advertised.
Rd 2 to Guida, imo.
Ah, Druby’s doing it up top, cool, didnt see that.
I knew this was going to be an amazing card.
I think Guida took it there at the end.
Guida got robbed.
[quote comment="80929"]Guida got robbed.[/quote]
I am not surprised, possibly some favoritism with Griffin since they are trying to make him a lightweight star
Good stoppage for JMac.
I’m so happy Rory lost.
And the Irish crowd breaks out into song during the Forrest Ramirez bout.
Rnady’s left ear is just disgusting from that rear camera angle…
well, whats going on people, did forrest win or what?
Clay got so robbed.. insane
forrest won very smart he was..
Ok, Yoda. Devasting was Forrest, fought smart he did.
Cool, Randy is doing the headline fight.
DAM RICH LOOKS PISSED!
What’s happening with the Okami fight? =O
Lets get it on!!
I sure am glad that I have internet at work. GO FORREST!! GO J-MAC!! Those wins make me happy.
Is the main event happening?
whats happening people?
is there any way to see pics of the fights or clips anywhere online
is rich winning ? knock out yet? sounds like forrest whooped that ass
Did the Fight Start?
any announcements made today?
No announcements, Boring first two rounds, Okami wouldnt engage, but in the third, well, read Druby’s blogging. Okami PWNED Rich in the 3rd.
*shakes with anticipation for round 2 and 3*
[quote comment="80987"]any announcements made today?[/quote]
Franklin gets the winner of Silva-Marquardt.
WOW looks like extreme TKO lost 100.00 bucks thats gotta suck.
Wish Franklin and okami fight was a little better. Even though it was lackuster it would still be cool to see it sometime. I wanted Ace to win but wish he would have performed better all well i hope it gives him more confidence.
Franklin lost?
or what?
is there any way you can get free ppv on the internet?
Dont forget to tune into Any Given Saturday at 6 pm est. today. Nate Marquardt is expected to call in to talk about UFC 72 and Anderson Silva!
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/anygivensaturday
shizzy card
scott smith needs to not be in the ufc
rory singer on main card?
forrest fought smart
frankin got lucky
okami is as boring as they come (technical though)
guida made it almost worth it
ill read you guys everyday
thats my last post of all time…
im out
gasman shad
[quote comment="81011"]Dont forget to tune into Any Given Saturday at 6 pm est. today. Nate Marquardt is expected to call in to talk about UFC 72 and Anderson Silva!
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/anygivensaturday/quote
Dam, about half my posts vanished. Not like they mattered. Anyway, Mania, it’s 6:07. Is the show going on or what?
Guida got robbed. That was a horrible decison, just really bad.
Guida pushed the action and controlled most of the fight, plus the last 30 seconds consisted of Guida dominating from top postion and raining down punches.
The worst decision I have ever seen.
[quote comment="81020"]
ill read you guys everyday
thats my last post of all time…
im out
gasman shad[/quote]
sorry to hear that.
so whats the verdict? those who bought it are you satisfied? i’m still at work so i didnt have a choice
JESSE!!! MANIA!! BUELLER!!!! What’s up with the show? God, I’m a pathetic nuthugger.
[quote comment="81023"][quote comment="81020"]
ill read you guys everyday
thats my last post of all time…
im out
gasman shad[/quote]
sorry to hear that.[/quote]
Yeah, what the hell is that dude? Your one of my favorite ppl to argue with. In good way, of course. You feeling the say shit YTed and I felt for awhile?
The link on the upper left is bad, UFCMANIA.
I called Rich Franklin winning Decision.
The link on the upper right goes to hostid 4893, and the one on BloodyElbow goes to 5791. Grrrrr….. I missed it.
Upper left I meant. Good job, Mania.
who knows if hector sickdog ramirez won?
Hey, there’s no quitting in MMA. It was a bad card, but don’t let Dana stop you from posting.
From the looks of things, glad I didn’t pay for 72. But I look forward to watching it sometime on free TV.
That Franklin couldn’t win by KO, TKO or stoppage of some kind is a little disapointing. Either Okami is way better than I thought of Franklin isn’t nearly as good as I thought. That may be unfair as I didn’t watch the fight, only read the play-by-play, but I think he needed a decisive win there.
Guida was the best fight of the card. He won the fight. Politics played into this one.
[quote comment="81051"]Hey, there’s no quitting in MMA. It was a bad card, but don’t let Dana stop you from posting.
From the looks of things, glad I didn’t pay for 72. But I look forward to watching it sometime on free TV.
That Franklin couldn’t win by KO, TKO or stoppage of some kind is a little disapointing. Either Okami is way better than I thought of Franklin isn’t nearly as good as I thought. That may be unfair as I didn’t watch the fight, only read the play-by-play, but I think he needed a decisive win there.[/quote]
Okami is good, he is a real strong agressive opponnent, yet he never fought anyone to the caliber of Rich Franklin. Franklin is an extremely good fighter, Fighters just like anybody else in the world can have a bad day well in their case a bad fight. If Franklin looked dissapointing in the fight so be it, he won though did he not? Look at mostly everybody’s favorite UFC fighter Chuck Liddell, he had a bad fight against Rampage but are people saying that he is not that good of a fighter? No. Just a bad fight thats it. It sounds like the Guida fight was amazing, but I am not surprised Guida is a great fighter, this lightweight division is phenominal.
Was at the event and I wonder how much of the booing was filtered out on ppv. The frank’ okami fight had a lot of booing and while I didn’t take part I could totally understand why they were.
In total had one great fight (Tyson/clay) and one quick ko (missed it was getting a pint) >:( I’m very disappointed and don’t think ill be doing ufc 75
Politics did play into the Guida/Griffin fight, they gave the decision to Coutures boy, simple as that.
The crowd was booing loudly when they heard that Tyson won, what a joke decision.
goin a lil crazy mtufc.. its all good though
[quote comment="81062"][quote comment="81051"]Hey, there’s no quitting in MMA. It was a bad card, but don’t let Dana stop you from posting.
From the looks of things, glad I didn’t pay for 72. But I look forward to watching it sometime on free TV.
That Franklin couldn’t win by KO, TKO or stoppage of some kind is a little disapointing. Either Okami is way better than I thought of Franklin isn’t nearly as good as I thought. That may be unfair as I didn’t watch the fight, only read the play-by-play, but I think he needed a decisive win there.[/quote]
Okami is good, he is a real strong agressive opponnent, yet he never fought anyone to the caliber of Rich Franklin. Franklin is an extremely good fighter, Fighters just like anybody else in the world can have a bad day well in their case a bad fight. If Franklin looked dissapointing in the fight so be it, he won though did he not? Look at mostly everybody’s favorite UFC fighter Chuck Liddell, he had a bad fight against Rampage but are people saying that he is not that good of a fighter? No. Just a bad fight thats it. It sounds like the Guida fight was amazing, but I am not surprised Guida is a great fighter, this lightweight division is phenominal.[/quote]
Am I saying that Chuck isn’t good? No. I’m saying that maybe he isn’t as good in the overall scheme of 205 MMA as die hard UFC fans thought. The higher level of fighters coming in to the UFC means that he who was once great is now only good. Look at Tito, a few years ago he was the top in the UFC. Now, the competition is tougher and better skilled and Tito isn’t the champ anymore. Maybe, he doesn’t have the skills to be the champ. The merging of the two top MMA promotions will show who the real cream is and it won’t always be the UFC fan favorite. This isn’t a Pride vs UFC; there are some guys from Pride who may have been contenders, but now with more competition they will forever be undercards or champs in the other promotions.
[quote comment="81065"]Was at the event and I wonder how much of the booing was filtered out on ppv. The frank’ okami fight had a lot of booing and while I didn’t take part I could totally understand why they were.
In total had one great fight (Tyson/clay) and one quick ko (missed it was getting a pint) >:( I’m very disappointed and don’t think ill be doing ufc 75[/quote]
Forrest Griffen fight wasn’t good? Sounds like he turned in a very good performance.
I didn’t pay for 72 and I really, really hope Zuffa takes it in the shorts on this one. The timeslot has something to do with it but mostly it was the lack of quality fights. And then your main event sounded like a hugfest not a slugfest.
The only bout on the main card any good was Clay v Tyson. I know it went to dec, but watch it anyway. It was that good. Forrest’s fight wasnt bad at all, but he just didn finish a guy who was walking on one leg for half the fight. And no, Rich Franklin is not as good as we all thought. Okami OWNED him in the third. To be honest, with Pride scoring ( looking at the fight as a whole as opposed to round by round ) Okami won, no doubt. Rich is never getting that title back ( standard any-thing-can-happen hedge ).
[quote post="2419"]The merging of the two top MMA promotions will show who the real cream is and it won’t always be the UFC fan favorite.[/quote]
You got it.
i don’t think guida got robbed at all, i think tyson griffin won that 3rd round for sure, he was better standing at the beginning of the round and did more damage from the bottom than guida did from the top, i thought the decision was justified, great fight…forrest fought a really smart fight, great use of kicks, i’m happy he won…ed herman looked good, glad he was able to get out of trouble a couple times and pull out the win…rich gets all kinds of respect from me for not tapping to okami in the 3rd, that fight was pretty lame, but rich definitely won…rory singer is a bum…marcus davis is good, he deserves a good fighter in his next fight…
Ed Herman really impressed me. He could really make a name for himself in a week middleweight divsion. (I’d love to see the Evan Tanner of old come back and clean up the division). Jason Macdonald looked slow and sloppy for too long but Singer couldn’t capitalize.I was happy to see him ground and pound out the win but he needs to be better. I don’t think Okami is used to fighting fighters as big as him because he didn’t do much the first 2 rounds (Rich didn’t do too much more). Imagine if Okami had won with that sick kimura with a minute and a bit on the clock after doing almost nothing for 2 rounds. If Anderson beats Nate (whom I know little about because I don’t think they’ve showed any of his 4 fights on T.V.)I see him walking all over Rich. If Dan Henderson loses to Rampage at UFC 75 he should drop down to his normal weight class of 185 and have a war with the Spider.
Marcus Davis had a nice TKO victory and now has four straight UFC wins (a streak of 9 including fights outside the UFC). I’d like to see him fight Josh (the Peoples Warrior) Burkman or Drew Fickett (if he beats Chris Lytle at UFC 73) to see if he’s truly a decent fighter.
The Tyson Griffin vs Clay Guida fight was a war.Some great action and Griffin geting out of that ankle lock was intense. One of the best fights I have ever witnessed, it just like the spencer fisher vs. Sam Stout fight #1 needs thrid round finish to keep the conterversy out. I’d have hated to be a judge in that won. I gave a split desision win to Gudia but Griffin did a lot of things right and may have won round 2. Round 1 was definetly Griffin and round 3 was Gudia but 2 was tipsy.
Forest Griffin was not 100% in that fight. If Jardine had been Hector Griffen would have been crying again. Griffin did not go for the kill and I haven’t seen him finish a fight since before the Tito Ortiz conterversial fight. Forest can beat Hector but can he beat someone who’s even in the top 10 in the UFC like Sobral or even Bisping I don’t think so.
All in all I was glad to see UFC and whats forty bucks to see some solid fights like Herman or the Gudia ,Griffen war. A better main event and this would have been insane.
…..I actually thought the fights weren’t that bad. Remember there’s techniques involved and not just toe to toe brawling. Smart fighters always get booed. So why should they put themselves into a dangerous situation when they don’t have to. If they can stand at a distance and pick the other fighter apart, that’s the other fighters own damn fault!!
…..Second, I thought Griffen did win that fight. Yeah Clay had a nice looking knee bar, but that’s all it was, nice looking. Tyson was never in danger by it in that position and he was sending bombs to Guida’s body. Those punches do score points, they were clean hard crisp shots no different than if they were standing up. A fighter doesn’t win by looking like he’s in a dominant position. He has to capitalize on that position. Guida didn’t.
[quote comment="81051"]Hey, there’s no quitting in MMA. It was a bad card, but don’t let Dana stop you from posting.
From the looks of things, glad I didn’t pay for 72. But I look forward to watching it sometime on free TV.
That Franklin couldn’t win by KO, TKO or stoppage of some kind is a little disapointing. Either Okami is way better than I thought of Franklin isn’t nearly as good as I thought. That may be unfair as I didn’t watch the fight, only read the play-by-play, but I think he needed a decisive win there.[/quote]
Ure jusa frikkin free rider u gotta be there to appreciate whats goin on,,,, I HAVE HAVE BIN A FAN OF THE UFC 4 4 yrs now and now its here in my home land (belfast) i didnt hesitate to buy a ticket or if that didnt work out i would have gladly paind by ppv but low and behold i paid £100 for the ticket and it was worth every penny,great fight card ,great vibe from the fans ,DANA AND MOST OF THE FIGHTERS including coture rampage all took the time to come and meet the awaiting fans and hey bonus i got randys tee shirt as he trew it off as returned back to the dressing room,,so wind yer neck great night and great response from the northern ireland crowd……NO SURRENDER KEEPER LIT!!!!!
spida:
[quote post="2419"] i think tyson griffin won that 3rd round [/quote]
What fight were you watching again?!?!?!
If the judges woulda done what’s right, and given Okami a 10-8 third round, they shoulda fought to a draw 28-28. Okami had him mounted and was beating on him, he had that SICK Kimura on him twice, and almost a straight armlock. What do you have to do in the UFC to get a 10-8 round anyway?
[quote comment="81120"]spida:
[quote post="2419"] i think tyson griffin won that 3rd round [/quote]
What fight were you watching again?!?!?![/quote]
i was watching the fight tyson griffin WON!!!!! what fight were you watching????!!!!!!!?????
[quote comment="81125"][quote comment="81120"]spida:
[quote post="2419"] i think tyson griffin won that 3rd round [/quote]
What fight were you watching again?!?!?![/quote]
i was watching the fight tyson griffin WON!!!!! what fight were you watching????!!!!!!!?????[/quote]
I can see the argument that Tyson won Spida although I personally think Guida won, I wont hate on ne1 who thinks Tyson won. However, theres no way no how that Griffen won the 3rd rd. Guida was on top for 2 minutes and was more active and the agressor in that round. But it was the fight of the afternoon and both fighters proved that they are top 10 155lb’ers. Id love to see the rematch. I think Guida won, but I cant argue for those who think Griffen did. Round 3 though was all Clay.
Guida won, if u think differently.. watch the match again and if ur still thinking the same.. maybe u shouldnt watch anymore.. Guida was pressing the fight, goin for submissions and nonstop punches.. Griffin just waited to counter and only fought back when he was in trouble.. griffin won one round and the 2nd and 3rd shouldve been clay.. thats real upsetting.. its like getting instant replay in the nfl.. its obvious but they still get the call wrong..
[quote comment="81123"]If the judges woulda done what’s right, and given Okami a 10-8 third round, they shoulda fought to a draw 28-28. Okami had him mounted and was beating on him, he had that SICK Kimura on him twice, and almost a straight armlock. What do you have to do in the UFC to get a 10-8 round anyway?[/quote]
Thats a brilliant point. The last fight in recent memory taht was scored more than 10-9 was the Nate Marquart vs Dean Lister fight (that wasn’t on T.V.!!!). Nate won the fight 30-25 but since it wasn’t on T.V. I had no idea what he did.
The UFC would have never called this fight a draw because they NEED a WINNER to fight the winner of Nate vs Anderson. What would have happened if there was a draw? Rich was going to get any close call because it’s far easier to sell Rich vs Anderson round 2 vs round 2 of Anderson vs Yushin. Did you know that Yushin beat Anderson in Pride via DQ? This is what I feel happened in the Griffin vs Guida fight. If it’s too close to call the more marketable fighter gets the win. Or the one the UFC wants to win for future match ups like Ortiz vs Griffin at UFC 59…the UFC wanted Ortiz to have a win going int o fight Shamrock and Liddel.
griffen won the first minute and a half to two minutes of that round standing and then when it went to the ground clay was throwing punches and elbows and landing maybe 10 percent of them, and the whole time griffen was throwing punches from the bottom and elbows from the bottom connecting on almost every one …it was a fight that could have gone either way, i really think tyson won that fight though, but like you said, i’m not gonna hate on you either for thinking guida won because it was that close…i was watching the fight with 4 other people and 4 of us thought it was clear tyson won and one dude thought guida won, not that that matters, but still, it was a close fight could have gone either way…
[quote comment="81134"] But it was the fight of the afternoon and both fighters proved that they are top 10 155lb’ers. Id love to see the rematch. [/quote]
no doubt!!
[quote comment="81028"] God, I’m a pathetic nuthugger.[/quote]
how does anybody on here have respect for this guy?? what a toolbox…
[quote comment="81140"]Guida won, if u think differently.. watch the match again and if ur still thinking the same.. maybe u shouldnt watch anymore..[/quote]
hahahahaha, ok everyone who thinks griffin won, i guess we can’t watch mma anymore, the guy from long island said so…get the hell out of here with that crap dude, my opinion is gonna stay my opinion, you don’t have to read it and you don’t have to respond to it, but its not gonna change cause you say so…
[quote comment="81143"][quote comment="81123"]If the judges woulda done what’s right, and given Okami a 10-8 third round, they shoulda fought to a draw 28-28. Okami had him mounted and was beating on him, he had that SICK Kimura on him twice, and almost a straight armlock. What do you have to do in the UFC to get a 10-8 round anyway?[/quote]
Thats a brilliant point. The last fight in recent memory taht was scored more than 10-9 was the Nate Marquart vs Dean Lister fight (that wasn’t on T.V.!!!). Nate won the fight 30-25 but since it wasn’t on T.V. I had no idea what he did.
The UFC would have never called this fight a draw because they NEED a WINNER to fight the winner of Nate vs Anderson. What would have happened if there was a draw? Rich was going to get any close call because it’s far easier to sell Rich vs Anderson round 2 vs round 2 of Anderson vs Yushin. Did you know that Yushin beat Anderson in Pride via DQ? This is what I feel happened in the Griffin vs Guida fight. If it’s too close to call the more marketable fighter gets the win. Or the one the UFC wants to win for future match ups like Ortiz vs Griffin at UFC 59…the UFC wanted Ortiz to have a win going int o fight Shamrock and Liddel.[/quote]
ahhhhh, a conspiracy theorist…do you really feel the fights are fixed like that?
yushin did not beat anderson in pride.thay was in a cage
the fight is on youtube
yushin okami vs. anderson silva
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Csq3fIlfK-Y
quote comment=”81123″]ahhhhh, a conspiracy theorist…do you really feel the fights are fixed like that?[/quote]
I don’t feel it happens all the time but the UFC (like any organization) is out to make money and hardcore fans like me and you don’t care who really wins as long as it’s a fight. Unfortunatly many people are drawn by Big Names (a lot of non mma fans know the name Ortiz)..if you doubt that look at why people didn’t buy or watch UFC 72. You are right that Tyson Griffin is not that big of a name so i doubt it was much or any of a fctor in this fight but a few times…like back in the pre steriod days of Stephan Bonner I’ve wondered…
As for quality of fights I feel that UFC 72 was just as good as UFC 69.
Serra defeats St. Pierre via Knockout is the equivalent of Franklin’s UD over Okami
Koscheck defeats Sanchez via unanimous decision was far worse a fight (if you can call it that) than Griffin’s victory over Ramirez
Huerta defeats Garcia via unanimous decision was a tad worse than Griffin’s UD war over Gudia
Okami defeats Swick via unanimous decision is the equivalent of the J.M ground and pound victory over Singer
Grove defeats Belcher via submission (choke) in round two is a tad worse than Herman’s choke out of Scott Smith
Cummo defeats Haynes in round two via knockout (punch) is just as good an undercard fight that was shown as Marcus Davis Knockout of Jason Tan
Big names don’t always mean Great fights.
[quote comment="81150"][quote comment="81028"] God, I’m a pathetic nuthugger.[/quote]
how does anybody on here have respect for this guy?? what a toolbox…[/quote]
What the hell does that mean? Dude, I was psyched to listen to the show and speak to Nate. Unfortunately, there was a computer problem ( I’ll be nice, grr ). And toolbox? Aren’t you the sole person anywhere who is saying Tyson Griffin won the third round? Dick.
[quote comment="81229"] Aren’t you the sole person anywhere who is saying Tyson Griffin won the third round? Dick.[/quote]
yeah me and two judges…
[quote post="2419"]If the judges woulda done what’s right, and given Okami a 10-8 third round, they shoulda fought to a draw 28-28. Okami had him mounted and was beating on him, he had that SICK Kimura on him twice, and almost a straight armlock. What do you have to do in the UFC to get a 10-8 round anyway?[/quote]
however rich did break out of the armlock, and reversed and even tho i thought rich was dont from that kimura, he did get out of it.
“done”
[quote comment="81212"]
As for quality of fights I feel that UFC 72 was just as good as UFC 69.
Serra defeats St. Pierre via Knockout is the equivalent of Franklin’s UD over Okami
Koscheck defeats Sanchez via unanimous decision was far worse a fight (if you can call it that) than Griffin’s victory over Ramirez
Huerta defeats Garcia via unanimous decision was a tad worse than Griffin’s UD war over Gudia
Okami defeats Swick via unanimous decision is the equivalent of the J.M ground and pound victory over Singer
Grove defeats Belcher via submission (choke) in round two is a tad worse than Herman’s choke out of Scott Smith
Cummo defeats Haynes in round two via knockout (punch) is just as good an undercard fight that was shown as Marcus Davis Knockout of Jason Tan
Big names don’t always mean Great fights.[/quote]
i definitely agree with this, me and my boy made the same comparison…but i still don’t think there is any conspiracy for the judges to award wins to more marketable fighters, one example is the chris leban/kalib starnes fight, i think leban is way more marketable and i think he got screwed on the cards in that fight…i just think when a fight is close there is so much that goes into a judge’s decision, there is so many different ways to look at the really close fights and theres no telling what a judge is gonna do…
Ok spida you got me,
I just get worked up a bit when i don’t completly understand why they call a fight the way they do.
I’d love if they explained their desisions on the internet or something though that would never happen.
[quote comment="81262"]Ok spida you got me,
I just get worked up a bit when i don’t completly understand why they call a fight the way they do.
I’d love if they explained their desisions on the internet or something though that would never happen.[/quote]
i hear you man, that would be awesome if they did that…
[quote comment="81241"][quote comment="81229"] Aren’t you the sole person anywhere who is saying Tyson Griffin won the third round? Dick.[/quote]
yeah me and two judges…[/quote]
Were they’re names randy and paula. you gotta give it to guida
[quote comment="81123"]If the judges woulda done what’s right, and given Okami a 10-8 third round, they shoulda fought to a draw 28-28. Okami had him mounted and was beating on him, he had that SICK Kimura on him twice, and almost a straight armlock. What do you have to do in the UFC to get a 10-8 round anyway?[/quote]
So what should have the judges given Franklin for the 1st two rounds when Okami had no intentions on engaging? No takedown attempts, O.K. 1 in the 2nd round I think. I could have counted the punches on my 2 hands that Okami threw in the 1st round and 2nd round solely. Just backpeddling. But just because he gets a submission for 2 minutes that more importantly he could not finish, you think this fight should have been a draw?
Weak fight card. This should have been televised for free and the fight night payper view. Go figure.
chill out spida. i wasnt serious wit wat i say towards not watching mma.. and the guy from long island is right, clay shouldve won.. but u have the right to ur opinion. so stop complaining and wipe the blood from ur vag.
Okami is the type of fighter that pisses me off. He is one of those guys that tries to counter everything and barely initiates anything. The only reason he got that take down is cause Franklin came at him and got a little crossed up. Anyways, Franklin looked a whole weight class smaller than Okami, did yall see that?
As for the Guida-Tyson fight. That could have gone either way. That was an extremely close fight, and I think both fighters are equally as good. One more round there wouldnt have hurt.
The Griffen-Ramirez fight, Forest actually looked good following up on all of his combinations. Hector Ramirez looked mad, like “stop dancing around me and let me punch you”. He looked like a lazy fat slob looking to land a big punch. Forrest definitely utilized his kicks and punches very well together. By the way, Has Forrest ever been in a fight without getting a black eye? Its almost like a tradition to get punched in the face for that guy.
[quote comment="81113"]i don’t think guida got robbed at all, i think tyson griffin won that 3rd round for sure, he was better standing at the beginning of the round and did more damage from the bottom than guida did from the top, i thought the decision was justified, great fight…forrest fought a really smart fight, great use of kicks, i’m happy he won…ed herman looked good, glad he was able to get out of trouble a couple times and pull out the win…rich gets all kinds of respect from me for not tapping to okami in the 3rd, that fight was pretty lame, but rich definitely won…rory singer is a bum…marcus davis is good, he deserves a good fighter in his next fight…[/quote]
totally agree
I cant find anything on MD =(
[quote comment="81125"][quote comment="81120"]spida:
[quote post="2419"] i think tyson griffin won that 3rd round [/quote]
What fight were you watching again?!?!?![/quote]
i was watching the fight tyson griffin WON!!!!! what fight were you watching????!!!!!!!?????[/quote]
you sound pathetic spida, Griifin lost in reality but won a b.s. decision, simple as that. Those 2 “judges” were the only 2 people in the building that thought Griffin won that fight.
I can guarantee you Guida wants a rematch, but Griffin doesn’t!
The fight ended with Guida raining down punches on Griffin, Tyson is lucky the bell rang to end the fight.
[quote comment="81140"]Guida won, if u think differently.. watch the match again and if ur still thinking the same.. maybe u shouldnt watch anymore.. Guida was pressing the fight, goin for submissions and nonstop punches.. Griffin just waited to counter and only fought back when he was in trouble.. griffin won one round and the 2nd and 3rd shouldve been clay.. thats real upsetting.. its like getting instant replay in the nfl.. its obvious but they still get the call wrong..[/quote]
Exactly, well put.
Piratebay has it up on torrent.
good thing rounds are 5 minutes long and the whole 5 minutes are scored by the judges or else the round ending with guida “raining down punches” that weren’t even landing might have meant something…guida lost and thats it man, who really cares? he obviously gained a lot of fans and will get more opportunities, but my honest and unbiased opinion is that griffin won the fight…call it pathetic if you want to bro but thats my opinion…also all those fans booing after the fight didn’t have the view the tv viewers had, all they saw was the guy on top and his arms flailing wildly, when the fact is both fighters were extremely active and griffin was a little bit more precise, being on top doesn’t win fights when the guy on the bottom is landing more punches and defending better…
[quote comment="81833"][
you sound pathetic spida, Griifin lost in reality but won a b.s. decision, simple as that. Those 2 "judges" were the only 2 people in the building that thought Griffin won that fight.
I can guarantee you Guida wants a rematch, but Griffin doesn't![/quote]
no actually in REALITY griffin won the fight, bs decision or not is an opinion dude, a split decision is a split decision, the fight was close, could have gone either way…and unfortunately for fans like you that were upset with the decision, the 2 judges you talk about that were the only ones in the building who thought griffin won the fight were 2 of the only 3 people in the building who’s opinion actually mattered…so keep arguing and calling my opinion pathetic dude, but its not gonna change because you say so and neither is their’s…
We’re getting a rematch, so who cares… It’ll be settled then.
[quote comment="81889"]good thing rounds are 5 minutes long and the whole 5 minutes are scored by the judges or else the round ending with guida “raining down punches” that weren’t even landing might have meant something…guida lost and thats it man, who really cares? he obviously gained a lot of fans and will get more opportunities, but my honest and unbiased opinion is that griffin won the fight…call it pathetic if you want to bro but thats my opinion…also all those fans booing after the fight didn’t have the view the tv viewers had, all they saw was the guy on top and his arms flailing wildly, when the fact is both fighters were extremely active and griffin was a little bit more precise, being on top doesn’t win fights when the guy on the bottom is landing more punches and defending better…[/quote]
i was at the event. there are large screens in every corner of the ceiling so we can see exactly what happened. the fans booed because guida should have gained the decision, not griffen. i will say that it was the fight of the night, however and griffen performed very well even if he was second to guida.
[quote comment="80878"]Well dressed Irish crowd… All the ppl in the front row had on jeans and T-shirts, and most were missing teeth. I love the Irish, my kinda ppl. Beats the hell outta a Vegas crowd any day.[/quote]
First of all asswipe,, we are not Irish were BRITISH ure prob a lame 40 stone yank that smells of stale pizza and hasny seen his tool for half of his life get a fokkin life
[quote comment="82130"][quote comment="80878"]Well dressed Irish crowd… All the ppl in the front row had on jeans and T-shirts, and most were missing teeth. I love the Irish, my kinda ppl. Beats the hell outta a Vegas crowd any day.[/quote]
First of all asswipe,, we are not Irish were BRITISH ure prob a lame 40 stone yank that smells of stale pizza and hasny seen his tool for half of his life get a fokkin life[/quote]
LOL im American and this is funny 40 stone Yank. Couldnt both Irish and Scotish people be considered British. Well we know Deff Irish can be considered british but i guess that depends on who ya ask. But if ya listen to the accents they all are similar to a British accent. Hell i better study my geography some more.
[quote comment="82130"][quote comment="80878"]Well dressed Irish crowd… All the ppl in the front row had on jeans and T-shirts, and most were missing teeth. I love the Irish, my kinda ppl. Beats the hell outta a Vegas crowd any day.[/quote]
First of all asswipe,, we are not Irish were BRITISH ure prob a lame 40 stone yank that smells of stale pizza and hasny seen his tool for half of his life get a fokkin life[/quote]
Lol, it was a compliment, really. And no, I’m 14.2 stone, I have three friends from across the pond, 2 English, 1 Scottish, and none of them consider the Irish ppl British in any sense.
How many times did the camera pan the crowd? Did you see the bald 30 stone guy with a white T-shirt on and missing his front teeth? Was anyone “dressed up” in the crowd? No. And that is what I loved about it. MMA for the true fans of it, not a bunch on wealthy elites who have no clue what they are watching. Dont be so sensitive, mate. It was a compliment. I’ve been to your wonderful country, albiet with the other side, but loved what I saw and the ppl I met.
And yes, I did get the Oustanding Stud reference make during the fight. You’re not talking to someone who doesnt know… bombs aweeee!