ufc 74 randy couture

“I certainly hope so [Fedor fights in the UFC]. He’s the top fighter in the world right now and certainly with good reason. He’s amazing to watch. I love to watch him fight. He’s exciting. He’s very stoic when he steps into the ring. He’s got a great demeanor. He’s technically a very, very good fighter. Those are the kind of guys I want to fight. [A fight with Fedor] might be a little too far down the line right now to talk about. I’m trying to keep focused on Gonzaga. I’m not going to hold my breath on Fedor, but if it ever happens, that would be great.”

– UFC Heavyweight Champion Randy Couture carefully touches on a potential showdown with PRIDE FC Heavyweight Champion Fedor Emelianenko in a Q&A with CBSSportsline.com. Before a dream match up like that can even happen “The Natural” has to take care of Gabriel Gonzaga at UFC 74 on August 26 in Las Vegas, Nevada.

June 9th, 2007    

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Comment by tha spida
2007-06-09 15:56:23

i’d love to see that fight, couture might be a match up that could give fedor some problems, with his strength and wrestling he could control fedor and try to keep fedor off the top of him where fedor excels, we saw lindland, someone similar to couture but a lot smaller give fedor a few problems early in that fight and maybe randy could have similar success…don’t get me wrong i know fedor is a beast and a very good submission fighter but i think him and couture would be a hell of a match up…

 
Comment by tha spida
2007-06-09 15:59:05

i doubt we’ll ever see it though because i think randy is gonna have some trouble with gonzaga, i know he beat sylvia who was a lot bigger, but gonzaga is a different kind of bigger, he’s stronger and faster than sylvia and has a very good ground game too…

 
Comment by KneeToTheFace
2007-06-09 16:09:21

Fedor has proven multiple times that it takes more than strength and wrestling to defeat him. Between his destruction of Mark Coleman, and his out-classing Kevin Randleman, I think he realizes it and is continuing to improve in that area. Randy Couture isn’t getting any better, and he was never as capable as Mark Coleman, so I doubt he would put up much of a fight.

 
Comment by Sir Chokemout
2007-06-09 16:13:02

I’d give it to Fedor. And I would pay a kidney to watch it on ppv.

 
Comment by Luppers
2007-06-09 16:14:36

I think Fedor would really expose Randy’s age… and capitalize on his week spots. Fedor is big enough and strong enough to dominate that fight on the ground, and obviously on the feet. But Randy always has a shot in the Octagon… ring, NFW.

 
Comment by clark77
2007-06-09 16:36:23

I think couture would be a problem for 90% of the heavyweight fighters out there. He is a smart fighter that studies the fighter he is facing and tries to identify there weaknesses and attack those weaknesses. Not to take anything away from fedor, he is a landmonster. I would love to see the fight!!!!

 
Comment by Tommy
2007-06-09 17:07:24

I don’t even think I care who wins. I just want to see this war. Both fighters bring it every time and will be fight of the year no matter when it happens. Maybe of the decade if they hurry up.

 
Comment by david
2007-06-09 17:27:46

While Fedor is arguably the best p4p fighter today, he has shown vulnerabilities in the past — he has been slammed head-first into the mat by Randleman (who neglected to finish him when he had the chance), and has been put on his back many times (though each time he recovered to win, usually by submission).

Even though I would still give Fedor the edge, fighting Randy (the best p4p wrestler in MMA today, the best clinch for takedown, good striking, never been submitted) in the UFC (in a cage, elbows to the head are legal) can give Fedor problems. If such a fight happens in 2007 (the year of upsets) Fedor could very well be next in line of being upset. Never ever count Randy out.

 
Comment by Bilbo McFonzie
2007-06-09 17:32:44

The Couture/Coleman comparison is weak. Coleman might have a better wrestling pedigree, but Couture is a much better all around fighter. Coleman has never added much to his wrestling base, but Couture has progressed in other areas- most notably his striking.

Maybe he wouldn’t beat Fedor, but I give him as much of a chance as anyone else. This is one of those matchups that needs to happen, just like Liddell/Wanderlei. Hopefully Fedor won’t fight exclusively in Bodog, because who knows how long Randy has left.

 
Comment by ACanadianPotHead
2007-06-09 18:17:24

If anyone in the UFC can beat Fedor, Randy is the man to do it. He is so smart in the cage with the heart to match. Could be best fight ever.

I would give Randy the decision on that one……..cant wait for GSP’s comeback!!

 
Comment by PhilQNY
2007-06-09 18:21:52

I hope this fight doesn’t happen to far down the road..the sooner the better.

 
Comment by MrFye
2007-06-09 18:26:15

Sorry Randy fans, but Gonzaga is going to introduce Randy to father time. He shouldn’t even discuss any fight until he deals with Gabe. I love Randy, but Gabe will not blow his chance at the title and if Cro-Cop didn’t intimidate Gabe neither will Randy. Fedor better get into the UFC soon before father time catches up with him too.

 
Comment by BLOodyMEss
2007-06-09 18:34:10

[quote comment=”76507″]If anyone in the UFC can beat Fedor, Randy is the man to do it. He is so smart in the cage with the heart to match. Could be best fight ever.

totally agree

 
Comment by jason bang
2007-06-09 18:39:00

I’m going to quote Joe Rogan on this one. ”Randy Couture is my hero”.

 
Comment by KO Hex
2007-06-09 18:57:47

As a fan,that would be a great fight to watch. We all know that Couture would enter the fight and give it his all against Fedor. Although, Im pretty sure that Fedor would win,but never count out Captain America. It would be great to see that fight nonetheless.

 
Comment by shamo84
2007-06-09 18:59:07

I think the intersting thing to say is that Randy is still at the top because his strenght is wrestling and wrestling is the strongest weapon in MMA.

 
Comment by Legal Eagle
2007-06-09 20:31:27

“Randy Couture isn’t getting any better, and he was never as capable as Mark Coleman, so I doubt he would put up much of a fight.”

Coleman had a somewhat better wrestling career, but in MMA, Couture has gone several levels beyond anything Coleman has shown himself capable of.

 
Comment by BLOodyMEss
2007-06-09 21:16:25

Couture would have major underdog status and that would work to his advantage as always

 
Comment by Big_B
2007-06-09 22:18:58

I love Couture, but Fedor is the greastest HW in the world. He’d likely whip Randy in 2 or 3 minutes.

 
Comment by PhilQNY
2007-06-09 22:27:34

..but Couture can be looked at as the best MMA champion ever..with all he has achieved and being he is still active..I can’t put pass the possibility of Couture beatin Fedor..cause that can happen.

 
Comment by BLOodyMEss
2007-06-09 22:45:29

I admit Fedor would be the one most likely to end the fight, Randy usually seems to win by dec. after all. regardless anything is possible.

 
Comment by Dom
2007-06-10 00:24:18

“If anyone in the UFC can beat Fedor, Randy is the man to do it. He is so smart in the cage with the heart to match. Could be best fight ever.”

What about that gu who just destroyed Cro cop. I heard he’s kinda good…

 
Comment by Thor1982
2007-06-10 00:37:52

[quote comment=”76510″]Sorry Randy fans, but Gonzaga is going to introduce Randy to father time. He shouldn’t even discuss any fight until he deals with Gabe. I love Randy, but Gabe will not blow his chance at the title and if Cro-Cop didn’t intimidate Gabe neither will Randy. Fedor better get into the UFC soon before father time catches up with him too.[/quote]
I know in MMA old has a diffrent definition but hell Fedor is only like 31 compared to Randy’s what 44 yrs. but i deffinitly see your point and i agree. I hope Couture can pull it out but he is getting up there.

 
Comment by Ransdell
2007-06-10 01:30:23

fedor would dominate with his sambo and gnp. also i would not be surprised if fedor never fights in the ufc due to how he likes one fight contracts and being non exclusive. hopefully dana or fedor can compromise so we can see the dream matches everyone has been hoping for.

later,
jonny ransdell

 
Comment by big daddy
2007-06-10 01:59:58

WHO EVER IS ON HERE TRYING TO MAKE A CASE FOR COUTURE OVER FEDOR IS SMOKING THAT GOOD SHIT THAT THEY DONT SELL IN THE U.S. CAUSE WHAT THE HELL HAVE YOU SEEN OUT OF COUTURE THAT EVEN LEADS YOU TO BELIVE THAT HE EVEN HAS A CHANCE WITH FEDOR …??? LINDLAND DIDNT EVEN LAND THAT PUNCH THAT CUT FEDOR THE BOTTOM OF HIS GLOVE CUT HIS EYE AND YOU WANT TO SAY HE HAD TROUBLE WITH HIM ..??? FEDOR PRETTY MUCH FEELS HIS OPPONENT OUT THEN DECIDES HES GONNA FINISH HIM …AND THATS WHAT HAPPENED TO LINDLAND …COUTURE DOESNT STAND A CHANCE …AT WHAT 50YRS OLD ..?? IS THAT HOW OLD HE IS …COME ON …COUTURE BETTER BE WORRIED ABOUT REALITY LIKE GONZAGA AND NOT FORGETTING TO TAKE HIS CENTRUM DAILY VITAMINS…I LOVE IT HOW THESE GUYS BEAT 1 TOP GUY AND THEN TURN AROUND AND START CALLING OUT THE GUYS WHO HAVE BEATEN EVERYONE THERE IS TO BEAT FOR YEARS …. I DONT SEE ANYONE IN UFC OR PRIDE OR ANY OTHER ORG. TAKING OUT FEDOR ANY TIME SOON …THE BEST THING FOR THEM TO DO IS WAIT IT OUT LET YOUNG TALENT DEVELOP AND WHEN FEDOR IS LIKE OVER 35 AND PAST HIS PRIME …BEAT HIM AND SAY SEE HES NOT UNBEATABLE TILL THEN …THERE IS NO HOPE …. SO ALL YOU COUTURE,GONZAGA SYLVIA, ARLOVSKI LOVERS OUT THERE GIVE IT UP ….YOUR BEST SHOT AT TAKING OUT FEDOR IS EX-PRIDE FIGHTERS SAD TO SAY …AND JOSH BARNETT IS A FRIEND OF FEDOR …SO YOUR BEST HOPE NOG AND HES 0-3 SO JUST WAIT IT OUT HATERS …JUST 5 MORE YEARS AND HIS REIGN WILL BE OVER …

 
Comment by big daddy
2007-06-10 02:04:43

[quote comment=”76552″]..but Couture can be looked at as the best MMA champion ever..with all he has achieved and being he is still active..I can’t put pass the possibility of Couture beatin Fedor..cause that can happen.[/quote]

MAYBE YOU COULD KICK DOWN SOME OF WHAT YOUR SMOKING THAN WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT CAN HAPPEN ….

 
Comment by big daddy
2007-06-10 02:07:53

[quote comment=”76511″][quote comment=”76507″]If anyone in the UFC can beat Fedor, Randy is the man to do it. He is so smart in the cage with the heart to match. Could be best fight ever.

totally agree[/quote]
BLOODYMESS DIDNT I TELL YOU TO GO CHANGE YOUR TAMPON ALREADY..??? WHAT ARE YOU DOING STILL ON HERE TALKING BULLSHIT…????

 
Comment by Thor1982
2007-06-10 02:13:10

[quote comment=”76602″]WHO EVER IS ON HERE TRYING TO MAKE A CASE FOR COUTURE OVER FEDOR IS SMOKING THAT GOOD SHIT THAT THEY DONT SELL IN THE U.S. CAUSE WHAT THE HELL HAVE YOU SEEN OUT OF COUTURE THAT EVEN LEADS YOU TO BELIVE THAT HE EVEN HAS A CHANCE WITH FEDOR …??? LINDLAND DIDNT EVEN LAND THAT PUNCH THAT CUT FEDOR THE BOTTOM OF HIS GLOVE CUT HIS EYE AND YOU WANT TO SAY HE HAD TROUBLE WITH HIM ..??? FEDOR PRETTY MUCH FEELS HIS OPPONENT OUT THEN DECIDES HES GONNA FINISH HIM …AND THATS WHAT HAPPENED TO LINDLAND …COUTURE DOESNT STAND A CHANCE …AT WHAT 50YRS OLD ..?? IS THAT HOW OLD HE IS …COME ON …COUTURE BETTER BE WORRIED ABOUT REALITY LIKE GONZAGA AND NOT FORGETTING TO TAKE HIS CENTRUM DAILY VITAMINS…I LOVE IT HOW THESE GUYS BEAT 1 TOP GUY AND THEN TURN AROUND AND START CALLING OUT THE GUYS WHO HAVE BEATEN EVERYONE THERE IS TO BEAT FOR YEARS …. I DONT SEE ANYONE IN UFC OR PRIDE OR ANY OTHER ORG. TAKING OUT FEDOR ANY TIME SOON …THE BEST THING FOR THEM TO DO IS WAIT IT OUT LET YOUNG TALENT DEVELOP AND WHEN FEDOR IS LIKE OVER 35 AND PAST HIS PRIME …BEAT HIM AND SAY SEE HES NOT UNBEATABLE TILL THEN …THERE IS NO HOPE …. SO ALL YOU COUTURE,GONZAGA SYLVIA, ARLOVSKI LOVERS OUT THERE GIVE IT UP ….YOUR BEST SHOT AT TAKING OUT FEDOR IS EX-PRIDE FIGHTERS SAD TO SAY …AND JOSH BARNETT IS A FRIEND OF FEDOR …SO YOUR BEST HOPE NOG AND HES 0-3 SO JUST WAIT IT OUT HATERS …JUST 5 MORE YEARS AND HIS REIGN WILL BE OVER …[/quote]

Quite a bold statment and opinion you might want to pay your deductible down on your insurance for in the future when the doctor has to remove your foot from your mouth. Fedor will lose eventually i guaruntee it. and i think Fedor is great! Oh and i dunno if you know but i tihnk your Caps Lock is on.

 
Comment by Thor1982
2007-06-10 02:16:14

Friends fight in MMA all the time.

 
Comment by Patrick S.
2007-06-10 02:19:49

I seriously doubt that any current HW can beat Fedor. But let’s not be jerks and attack people just because they post their personal opinions here in this forum.

 
Comment by Thor1982
2007-06-10 02:25:07

Oh if only Fedor wouldnt have gotten cut We would have seen Couture and Fedor fight.

 
Comment by Thor1982
2007-06-10 02:32:02

[quote comment=”76607″][quote comment=”76602″]WHO EVER IS ON HERE TRYING TO MAKE A CASE FOR COUTURE OVER FEDOR IS SMOKING THAT GOOD SHIT THAT THEY DONT SELL IN THE U.S. CAUSE WHAT THE HELL HAVE YOU SEEN OUT OF COUTURE THAT EVEN LEADS YOU TO BELIVE THAT HE EVEN HAS A CHANCE WITH FEDOR …??? LINDLAND DIDNT EVEN LAND THAT PUNCH THAT CUT FEDOR THE BOTTOM OF HIS GLOVE CUT HIS EYE AND YOU WANT TO SAY HE HAD TROUBLE WITH HIM ..??? FEDOR PRETTY MUCH FEELS HIS OPPONENT OUT THEN DECIDES HES GONNA FINISH HIM …AND THATS WHAT HAPPENED TO LINDLAND …COUTURE DOESNT STAND A CHANCE …AT WHAT 50YRS OLD ..?? IS THAT HOW OLD HE IS …COME ON …COUTURE BETTER BE WORRIED ABOUT REALITY LIKE GONZAGA AND NOT FORGETTING TO TAKE HIS CENTRUM DAILY VITAMINS…I LOVE IT HOW THESE GUYS BEAT 1 TOP GUY AND THEN TURN AROUND AND START CALLING OUT THE GUYS WHO HAVE BEATEN EVERYONE THERE IS TO BEAT FOR YEARS …. I DONT SEE ANYONE IN UFC OR PRIDE OR ANY OTHER ORG. TAKING OUT FEDOR ANY TIME SOON …THE BEST THING FOR THEM TO DO IS WAIT IT OUT LET YOUNG TALENT DEVELOP AND WHEN FEDOR IS LIKE OVER 35 AND PAST HIS PRIME …BEAT HIM AND SAY SEE HES NOT UNBEATABLE TILL THEN …THERE IS NO HOPE …. SO ALL YOU COUTURE,GONZAGA SYLVIA, ARLOVSKI LOVERS OUT THERE GIVE IT UP ….YOUR BEST SHOT AT TAKING OUT FEDOR IS EX-PRIDE FIGHTERS SAD TO SAY …AND JOSH BARNETT IS A FRIEND OF FEDOR …SO YOUR BEST HOPE NOG AND HES 0-3 SO JUST WAIT IT OUT HATERS …JUST 5 MORE YEARS AND HIS REIGN WILL BE OVER …[/quote]

Quite a bold statment and opinion you might want to pay your deductible down on your insurance for in the future when the doctor has to remove your foot from your mouth. Fedor will lose eventually i guaruntee it. and i think Fedor is great! Oh and i dunno if you know but i tihnk your Caps Lock is on.[/quote]
Guess i was a little harsh there cuz you obviously like Fedor prob your Fav fighter and you dont think Couture stands a chance and its your opinion. But when your so bold and your Fav fighter does lose you kinda end up eating ur words. But maybe your right just maybe.

 
Comment by big daddy
2007-06-10 02:38:54

[quote comment=”76612″]Oh if only Fedor wouldnt have gotten cut We would have seen Couture and Fedor fight.[/quote]
WHAT IS COUTURE YOUR DADDY …??? WHY ARE YOU PUTTING UP DELUSIONAL SHIT ABOUT A 50YR OLD MAN …??? HES WASHED UP FACE IT …FEDOR WOULD HAVE WOOPED HIS ASS YEARS AGO AND HELL WOOP HIS ASS NOW…

 
Comment by big daddy
2007-06-10 02:39:36

FEDOR IS NOT MY FAVORITE FIGHTER ROGER HUERTA IS ….

 
Comment by big daddy
2007-06-10 02:41:47

AND YOUR THE BOLD ONE …SAYING SUCH A BOLD STATEMENT THAT “OH HE IS GONNA LOSE” NO SHIT SHERLOCK EVERYONE LOSES …!! WHY DONT YOU SAY WHO HE IS GONNA LOSE TO ..??? LET ME GUESS YOUR GONNA SAY BROCK LESNER NEXT RIGHT ..??

 
Comment by mcanena
2007-06-10 04:24:55

I like Randy how can anyone not but him against Fedor,I cant see him beating Fedor ever no matter what.
When Fedor eventualy gets beat I believe it will be by KO and Randys not gonna be the one to do it.Randy is a grat American fighter but Fedor is the greatest fighter in the world and you only have to watch his fights and watch Randys fights with an open mind and you will very quickly come to the conclusion that Fedor would destroy Randy and probably very quickly.
I dont think there would be an upset in this one.Fedor is an intelegent fighter and despite his apearence is in extremly good shape.
Randy needs to consentrate on Gonzaga coz thats another fight that I will be conserned for his saftey.
I hope Randy can pull off something special against Gonzaga but if Im honest I cant see it happening.

 
Comment by Chris Valentine
2007-06-10 04:25:28

[quote comment=”76623″][quote comment=”76612″]Oh if only Fedor wouldnt have gotten cut We would have seen Couture and Fedor fight.[/quote]
WHAT IS COUTURE YOUR DADDY …??? WHY ARE YOU PUTTING UP DELUSIONAL SHIT ABOUT A 50YR OLD MAN …??? HES WASHED UP FACE IT …FEDOR WOULD HAVE WOOPED HIS ASS YEARS AGO AND HELL WOOP HIS ASS NOW…[/quote]

Man, you always starting stuff dude. I will never count cotour out. That guy has pulled so much shit out of his ass, that I cannot count him up. With that said Fedor will dominate, and would probably end the fight quick.

Later
Chris Valentine

 
Comment by mcanena
2007-06-10 04:32:55

just reading some of these comments and I cant belive how many of you doubt Fedor.Randy is great but my god be real about this Fedor would destroy Randy in every aspect of the fight.People saying it would be fight of the decade yeah right quickest fight of the decade.
The only possible way Randy could win this would be referee stopage due to a cut.

RANDY BEAT FEDOR HA HA YEAH RIGHT,STOP DREAMING RANDY FANS.
KEEP IT REAL!

 
Comment by YouTapped
2007-06-10 05:22:03

Heh, the guy with the uppercase letters might be a tad annoying, be he is right about Fedor’s approach to fights. Both Fedor and CroCop train according to the strengths of the opponent (be it a kickboxer, wrestler, MT or whatever guy), but they don’t make gameplans. They feel out the opponent and then adapt their game during the fight. This works well, if you are totally focused - if not: well, we’ve seen CroCop-Gonzaga.

As for this potential match-up, here is a snippet for a interview with Fedor last week:

[quote]Q: Did you sign any contract yet?
A: No. We are in talks with k1 and Pride. UFC is now the biggest promotion, but they are dictating their conditions to us, this is not acceptable to us, their contract is only about what THEY want and not what the fighters need.[/quote]

Other members of the Red Devil team seem to have a similiar assessment of the UFC deals they got offered and declined, like Roman Zentsov:

[quote]
Q: Are there offers from UFC now?
A: I think there were some to Vadim (manager) but UFC is too narrow and exclusive, so we didn’t take those very seriously. I got a few Bodog fights, it’s over now, so now we’re in talks with Pride.[/quote]

Now I don’t know who that “Pride” is, they are talking about, since the Pride acquisition is somewhat still in flux inbetween Zuffa and DSE, but apparently the UFC is a no-go to those two, which rules out Couture-Emelianenko or CroCop-Emelianenko II for now.

 
Comment by jason bang
2007-06-10 06:02:13

[quote comment=”76607″][quote comment=”76602″]WHO EVER IS ON HERE TRYING TO MAKE A CASE FOR COUTURE OVER FEDOR IS SMOKING THAT GOOD SHIT THAT THEY DONT SELL IN THE U.S. CAUSE WHAT THE HELL HAVE YOU SEEN OUT OF COUTURE THAT EVEN LEADS YOU TO BELIVE THAT HE EVEN HAS A CHANCE WITH FEDOR …??? LINDLAND DIDNT EVEN LAND THAT PUNCH THAT CUT FEDOR THE BOTTOM OF HIS GLOVE CUT HIS EYE AND YOU WANT TO SAY HE HAD TROUBLE WITH HIM ..??? FEDOR PRETTY MUCH FEELS HIS OPPONENT OUT THEN DECIDES HES GONNA FINISH HIM …AND THATS WHAT HAPPENED TO LINDLAND …COUTURE DOESNT STAND A CHANCE …AT WHAT 50YRS OLD ..?? IS THAT HOW OLD HE IS …COME ON …COUTURE BETTER BE WORRIED ABOUT REALITY LIKE GONZAGA AND NOT FORGETTING TO TAKE HIS CENTRUM DAILY VITAMINS…I LOVE IT HOW THESE GUYS BEAT 1 TOP GUY AND THEN TURN AROUND AND START CALLING OUT THE GUYS WHO HAVE BEATEN EVERYONE THERE IS TO BEAT FOR YEARS …. I DONT SEE ANYONE IN UFC OR PRIDE OR ANY OTHER ORG. TAKING OUT FEDOR ANY TIME SOON …THE BEST THING FOR THEM TO DO IS WAIT IT OUT LET YOUNG TALENT DEVELOP AND WHEN FEDOR IS LIKE OVER 35 AND PAST HIS PRIME …BEAT HIM AND SAY SEE HES NOT UNBEATABLE TILL THEN …THERE IS NO HOPE …. SO ALL YOU COUTURE,GONZAGA SYLVIA, ARLOVSKI LOVERS OUT THERE GIVE IT UP ….YOUR BEST SHOT AT TAKING OUT FEDOR IS EX-PRIDE FIGHTERS SAD TO SAY …AND JOSH BARNETT IS A FRIEND OF FEDOR …SO YOUR BEST HOPE NOG AND HES 0-3 SO JUST WAIT IT OUT HATERS …JUST 5 MORE YEARS AND HIS REIGN WILL BE OVER …[/quote]

Quite a bold statment and opinion you might want to pay your deductible down on your insurance for in the future when the doctor has to remove your foot from your mouth. Fedor will lose eventually i guaruntee it. and i think Fedor is great! Oh and i dunno if you know but i tihnk your Caps Lock is on.[/quote]
Everybody has to lose sometime.

 
Comment by jason bang
2007-06-10 06:04:22

[quote comment=”76623″][quote comment=”76612″]Oh if only Fedor wouldnt have gotten cut We would have seen Couture and Fedor fight.[/quote]
WHAT IS COUTURE YOUR DADDY …??? WHY ARE YOU PUTTING UP DELUSIONAL SHIT ABOUT A 50YR OLD MAN …??? HES WASHED UP FACE IT …FEDOR WOULD HAVE WOOPED HIS ASS YEARS AGO AND HELL WOOP HIS ASS NOW…[/quote]
If Ramdy was washed up then how did he have a five round war with Tim Silvia. H e also knocked him downed with one punch in the opening 10 seconds.

 
Comment by tha spida
2007-06-10 09:59:00

[quote comment=”76629″]AND YOUR THE BOLD ONE …SAYING SUCH A BOLD STATEMENT THAT “OH HE IS GONNA LOSE” NO SHIT SHERLOCK EVERYONE LOSES …!! WHY DONT YOU SAY WHO HE IS GONNA LOSE TO ..??? LET ME GUESS YOUR GONNA SAY BROCK LESNER NEXT RIGHT ..??[/quote]

brock lesnar

 
Comment by tha spida
2007-06-10 10:01:33

just kidding

 
Comment by jason bang
2007-06-10 10:09:04

[quote comment=”76715″][quote comment=”76629″]AND YOUR THE BOLD ONE …SAYING SUCH A BOLD STATEMENT THAT “OH HE IS GONNA LOSE” NO SHIT SHERLOCK EVERYONE LOSES …!! WHY DONT YOU SAY WHO HE IS GONNA LOSE TO ..??? LET ME GUESS YOUR GONNA SAY BROCK LESNER NEXT RIGHT ..??[/quote]

brock lesnar[/quote]
Not everybody lose’s i know i’m contradicting myself but what about Rocky Marsanio(hope that is spelt right). He is the only heavyweight boxer that has never been beaten.

 
Comment by tha spida
2007-06-10 10:11:54

seriously though fedor is a beast and everyone knows it, but you can never count out randy couture, i’m not saying randy will beat fedor, i’m just saying he can…winning 30 something fights in a row speaks for itself, especially against the competition he’s had, he’s definitely the best there is in any weight class, i think we all just want him in the ufc and to see how some of our guys like randy and gonzaga would do against him…

 
Comment by tha spida
2007-06-10 10:14:18

give brock a couple years of training and fighting experience and he might just beat the top guys like fedor, he has all the tools, he just needs to get more experience

 
Comment by Tommy
2007-06-10 10:16:04

Rocky Marciano

 
Comment by MrAngry
2007-06-10 10:44:59

10 years ago Randy would have had a chance. I know he defies the usual age limitations, but Fedor is MILES ahead of anyone Randy’s ever fought. I am 100% a Randy fan (oo-er!!!) but he’d be better off health-wise if this fight didn’t ever happen (which it won’t)
I think Gonzaga will be big trouble for Randy too. He’s very strong and very good on the ground and we’ve all seen his striking.

 
Comment by Gord
2007-06-10 10:57:46

[quote post=”2375″]Fedor has proven multiple times that it takes more than strength and wrestling to defeat him. Between his destruction of Mark Coleman, and his out-classing Kevin Randleman, I think he realizes it and is continuing to improve in that area. Randy Couture isn’t getting any better, and he was never as capable as Mark Coleman, so I doubt he would put up much of a fight. [/quote]

How can you say Randy was never as capable as Coleman. Coleman is a free style wrestler who shoots in for a takedown where as Randy is a greko roman wrestler, who takes you down from the clinch, BIG difference. An example ,Monson (free style) had problems getting Sylvia down and Randy (greko) took Sylvia down at will. Any fighter today with a good sprall can totally negate a free style wrestlers takedown advantage. How many times has Coleman skidded across the ring on his nose after missing a shoot? Randy will be able to take Fedor down, the question is, will he be able to avoid Fedor’s sick submissions.

 
Comment by The Man
2007-06-10 11:24:10

Just remember evrybody,Randy always fights better as an under dog.He relishes the position.Words of advice,”never bet against capt America.”

 
Comment by Gord
2007-06-10 11:39:37

[quote post=”2375″]WHO EVER IS ON HERE TRYING TO MAKE A CASE FOR COUTURE OVER FEDOR IS SMOKING THAT GOOD SHIT THAT THEY DONT SELL IN THE U.S. CAUSE WHAT THE HELL HAVE YOU SEEN OUT OF COUTURE THAT EVEN LEADS YOU TO BELIVE THAT HE EVEN HAS A CHANCE WITH FEDOR …??? LINDLAND DIDNT EVEN LAND THAT PUNCH THAT CUT FEDOR THE BOTTOM OF HIS GLOVE CUT HIS EYE AND YOU WANT TO SAY HE HAD TROUBLE WITH HIM ..??? FEDOR PRETTY MUCH FEELS HIS OPPONENT OUT THEN DECIDES HES GONNA FINISH HIM …AND THATS WHAT HAPPENED TO LINDLAND …COUTURE DOESNT STAND A CHANCE …AT WHAT 50YRS OLD ..?? IS THAT HOW OLD HE IS …COME ON …COUTURE BETTER BE WORRIED ABOUT REALITY LIKE GONZAGA AND NOT FORGETTING TO TAKE HIS CENTRUM DAILY VITAMINS…I LOVE IT HOW THESE GUYS BEAT 1 TOP GUY AND THEN TURN AROUND AND START CALLING OUT THE GUYS WHO HAVE BEATEN EVERYONE THERE IS TO BEAT FOR YEARS …. I DONT SEE ANYONE IN UFC OR PRIDE OR ANY OTHER ORG. TAKING OUT FEDOR ANY TIME SOON …THE BEST THING FOR THEM TO DO IS WAIT IT OUT LET YOUNG TALENT DEVELOP AND WHEN FEDOR IS LIKE OVER 35 AND PAST HIS PRIME …BEAT HIM AND SAY SEE HES NOT UNBEATABLE TILL THEN …THERE IS NO HOPE …. SO ALL YOU COUTURE,GONZAGA SYLVIA, ARLOVSKI LOVERS OUT THERE GIVE IT UP ….YOUR BEST SHOT AT TAKING OUT FEDOR IS EX-PRIDE FIGHTERS SAD TO SAY …AND JOSH BARNETT IS A FRIEND OF FEDOR …SO YOUR BEST HOPE NOG AND HES 0-3 SO JUST WAIT IT OUT HATERS …JUST 5 MORE YEARS AND HIS REIGN WILL BE OVER … [/quote]

Ya, well I love it when a guy who is supposed to be the best in the world hides out in Bodog like a little girl. A 5 year reign in Bodog is something to be proud of,come on. That one fight contract bullshit is the lamest excuse ever, Fedor knows there are guys in the UFC who can beat him. Monson would’ve been a bad matchup for Fedor and he knew it, that’s why he wouldn’t fight him and instead chose a MW (Lindland). Fedor beat 6 or 7 good guys the rest were cans (look up their records). All the guys you mentioned want to fight Fedor, but he won’t step up to the plate. Your hero has to come to UFC and beat the best to be considered the best other wise if he hides out only the nuthuggers will think he’s the best.

 
Comment by YouTapped
2007-06-10 11:39:49

It seems people are ignoring my post. Once again: Fedor said himself, he will most likely sign with K-1 or Pride again, althou Pride now also wants an exclusive contract, so there is still things to work out.

The contract offered by the UFC was unacceptable, as Fedor’s demands have been ignored or not addressed.

So we won’t see Couture-Emelianenko, ever. Yes, I said ever. If it happens, I will eat those words, but until Fedor has a new contract at least 2-3 months will pass and it will be another org. If its K-1, then we see it never. If its Pride, then he might fight at the SuperBowl event, but Randy will either retire until then or have lost the belt. I don’t want to take anything away from Randy, he is a class act and fine athlete, but the new rising MMA fighters are of a new breed.

 
Comment by Gord
2007-06-10 11:55:23

[quote post=”2375″]I like Randy how can anyone not but him against Fedor,I cant see him beating Fedor ever no matter what.
When Fedor eventualy gets beat I believe it will be by KO and Randys not gonna be the one to do it.Randy is a grat American fighter but Fedor is the greatest fighter in the world and you only have to watch his fights and watch Randys fights with an open mind and you will very quickly come to the conclusion that Fedor would destroy Randy and probably very quickly.
I dont think there would be an upset in this one.Fedor is an intelegent fighter and despite his apearence is in extremly good shape.
Randy needs to consentrate on Gonzaga coz thats another fight that I will be conserned for his saftey.
I hope Randy can pull off something special against Gonzaga but if Im honest I cant see it happening. [/quote]

What? he would destroy Randy like he destroyed Sobral, Schilt and CC in a decision win. I could see Randy finishing all three of these guys so I don’t think it’s a strech to say Randy could give Fedor a fight at the very least.

 
Comment by tha spida
2007-06-10 12:01:44

[quote comment=”76749″]Ya, well I love it when a guy who is supposed to be the best in the world hides out in Bodog like a little girl. A 5 year reign in Bodog is something to be proud of,come on. That one fight contract bullshit is the lamest excuse ever, Fedor knows there are guys in the UFC who can beat him. Monson would’ve been a bad matchup for Fedor and he knew it, that’s why he wouldn’t fight him and instead chose a MW (Lindland). Fedor beat 6 or 7 good guys the rest were cans (look up their records). All the guys you mentioned want to fight Fedor, but he won’t step up to the plate. Your hero has to come to UFC and beat the best to be considered the best other wise if he hides out only the nuthuggers will think he’s the best.[/quote]

i agree, he needs to come to the ufc

 
Comment by YouTapped
2007-06-10 12:05:47

[quote comment=”76756″]
What? he would destroy Randy like he destroyed Sobral, Schilt and CC in a decision win. I could see Randy finishing all three of these guys so I don’t think it’s a strech to say Randy could give Fedor a fight at the very least.[/quote]

Sobral was never a heavyweight to begin with. He is a good competitor at LHW and thats it. Schilt? Schilt was never considered a Top5 fighter, I don’t know what good it does to list him at all. And I would hardly say Fedor “destroyed” CC in the decision win. Fedor said numerous times himself that CC was his hardest fight ever. Across the board MMA journalists consider the Top trio to be Fedor, Big Nog and CroCop, regardless of what people might think after the Gonzaga loss. I can’t remember MMAweekly having Randy EVER in their Top3 HW list. For example right now (updated on may 30th) he is still only #5, after, you guessed it, Fedor, Big Nog, Mirko and Josh Barnett. And I absolutely agree with their assessment.

 
Comment by Thor1982
2007-06-10 12:55:35

[quote comment=”76629″]AND YOUR THE BOLD ONE …SAYING SUCH A BOLD STATEMENT THAT “OH HE IS GONNA LOSE” NO SHIT SHERLOCK EVERYONE LOSES …!! WHY DONT YOU SAY WHO HE IS GONNA LOSE TO ..??? LET ME GUESS YOUR GONNA SAY BROCK LESNER NEXT RIGHT ..??[/quote]

Yeah your right but you cant consider Fedor the best when he wont fight in the UFC. As Gord stated in his above comment All the top fighters in the UFC want to fight Fedor but he wont step up to the plate. You can hide behind contract disagreements for a long time. And in the end if he does sign with Pride maybe he’s just more comfortable there Because he has done so well in Pride. I cant say who he is gonna lose to the guy hasnt signed with anyone yet. I think he will eventually sign with the UFC. I hope he doesnt sign with K-1.
If Fedor signs with UFC and they put him up against any of the top fighters i think he is gonna have his hands full but maybe he knows this and hence why he doesnt want to sign with the UFC. My second guess for your fav fighter would have been
Gary “Big Daddy” Goodridge. And your CAPSLOCK is still on we are not blind we can read your posts without them having to be supersized.

 
Comment by Thor1982
2007-06-10 13:00:15

[quote comment=”76719″][quote comment=”76715″][quote comment=”76629″]AND YOUR THE BOLD ONE …SAYING SUCH A BOLD STATEMENT THAT “OH HE IS GONNA LOSE” NO SHIT SHERLOCK EVERYONE LOSES …!! WHY DONT YOU SAY WHO HE IS GONNA LOSE TO ..??? LET ME GUESS YOUR GONNA SAY BROCK LESNER NEXT RIGHT ..??[/quote]

brock lesnar[/quote]
Not everybody lose’s i know i’m contradicting myself but what about Rocky Marsanio(hope that is spelt right). He is the only heavyweight boxer that has never been beaten.[/quote]

Yeah but going undefeated in boxing as elusive as it is isnt the same as going undefeated in MMA. Way more ways to lose in MMA so going undefeated your whole career is unbelievable almost.

 
Comment by big daddy
2007-06-10 13:04:17

[quote comment=”76756″][quote post=”2375″]I like Randy how can anyone not but him against Fedor,I cant see him beating Fedor ever no matter what.
When Fedor eventualy gets beat I believe it will be by KO and Randys not gonna be the one to do it.Randy is a grat American fighter but Fedor is the greatest fighter in the world and you only have to watch his fights and watch Randys fights with an open mind and you will very quickly come to the conclusion that Fedor would destroy Randy and probably very quickly.
I dont think there would be an upset in this one.Fedor is an intelegent fighter and despite his apearence is in extremly good shape.
Randy needs to consentrate on Gonzaga coz thats another fight that I will be conserned for his saftey.
I hope Randy can pull off something special against Gonzaga but if Im honest I cant see it happening. [/quote]

What? he would destroy Randy like he destroyed Sobral, Schilt and CC in a decision win. I could see Randy finishing all three of these guys so I don’t think it’s a strech to say Randy could give Fedor a fight at the very least.[/quote]
what the hell are you the head cheerleader on randys team …??? look man put your pom pom away and get with reality …saying fedor is hiding out in bodog is like saying your mom hides out in my bed ..thats not the case they dont want the commitment…how you gonna knock a guy and he is problably the only guy who stands up to the system and does what is actually better for him ….as time passes and the top fighters keep getting upset and knocked out his value goes up for he is the only fighter that is undefeated and has fought most of the top guys…he is marketable everywhere in the world …what other fighter can do that ..???
what your saying is like talking shit about sugar ray robinson for not signing with don king …. yeah the best fighters are now in ufc period … but is it fedors fault that they signed contracts that dont pay them what their worth…and why dont they go do k-1 or bodog for 1 fight with fedor then come back to ufc…??? are you gonna say their hiding out in ufc…???

 
Comment by Thor1982
2007-06-10 13:10:46

[quote comment=”76623″][quote comment=”76612″][/quote]
WHAT IS COUTURE YOUR DADDY …??? WHY ARE YOU PUTTING UP DELUSIONAL SHIT ABOUT A 50YR OLD MAN …??? HES WASHED UP FACE IT …FEDOR WOULD HAVE WOOPED HIS ASS YEARS AGO AND HELL WOOP HIS ASS NOW…[/quote]

I didnt put anything up about Couture I just stated Fedor will lose exspecially if he signs with the UFC. He is a great fighter no doubt about that but he is not the best in my opinion until he fights some top UFC talent. Rankings dont mean anything to me. I in no way am saying Randy Couture would or will win in a match against Fedor Emelianenko. But when alot of people are totally writing Couture off like Fedor could just walk thru him i really really really doubt it would be that easy for Fedor.

 
Comment by YouTapped
2007-06-10 13:12:51

[quote]Fedor beat 6 or 7 good guys the rest were cans (look up their records).[/quote]

Please do me the honors and name A SINGLE OTHER of the current heavyweights, who has beat 6 or 8 of the “good guys”. Cro Cop and Big Nog are the only ones that come to my mind, but those are (former) Pride fighters and I believe you wanted to name some UFC natives to showcase how great the UFC Heavyweight is and was.

[quote]i agree, he needs to come to the ufc[/quote]

Well, he is the undisputed champion and best fighter of the world. I think that does give him some leverage and I don’t think he “needs” to do anything to prove himself anymore.

[quote]Yeah your right but you cant consider Fedor the best when he wont fight in the UFC.[/quote]

Yes you can, especially if he has beaten the #2 and #3 of the world. It’s like the WEC building up a HW fighter with a remarkable WEC-intern record of 20-0-0 and now WEC fans claim, that Fedor can’t call himself the best until he has joined the WEC. I think Fedor and his management are a bit smarter than that.

 
Comment by Thor1982
2007-06-10 13:23:20

The only guy who stands up to the system lol. fighters are having contract dissagreements every ten seconds. And its not as easy just taking one fight here or there exspecially if you have an exclusive contract get that exclusive. In which case alot of the top fighters have because these organizations dont want their top fighters going off and getting beat in some other organization. And you can bet Fedor knows this and he doesnt want to be locked in a exclusive contract with the UFC or Pride. And with a possible buy of Pride by UFC owners its really throwing a wrench in him making his decision. I still hope he doesnt go to K-1 that will suck

 
Comment by Thor1982
2007-06-10 13:38:16

[quote]Yeah your right but you cant consider Fedor the best when he wont fight in the UFC.[/quote]

Yes you can, especially if he has beaten the #2 and #3 of the world. It’s like the WEC building up a HW fighter with a remarkable WEC-intern record of 20-0-0 and now WEC fans claim, that Fedor can’t call himself the best until he has joined the WEC. I think Fedor and his management are a bit smarter than that.[/quote]

That can be reversed also its like the UFC saying Randy couture is the best in the world. But others saying he isnt the best until he joins Pride and beats Fedor. Without looking at rankings in which case ive stated mean nothing to me its all a matter of opinion. So really saying there not the best until they beat the best still holds true even though its would be fairly tough on a person to fight in every MMA origanization to repel all arguements that they were not the best. Its just not realistic and in which case all you can say is right now Fedor is the best in Pride or right now Couture is the Best HW in the UFC. Being the best in one or even two organizations will never make you the best in the world despite the title World Champion cuz it only makes you world chamion for that specific organization. But i guess thats why people Rely on the Rankings to form infuence their opinions.

 
Comment by tha spida
2007-06-10 13:54:19

its been two years since he fought mirko or big nog and i thought he only beat big nog twice not three times, so yeah he was the best fighter in the world then and probably still is, but we knew it then because he was beating the best guys, but he’s not fighting the top guys anymore and those top guys are in the ufc so he needs to come here, who the top guys are changes all the time in this sport too especially with most of the top guys coming to the ufc and testing themselves against new competition, i mean look at what happened to cro cop, that fight was no fluke, gonzaga looked like the better fighter, anything can happen in the sport and no man is unbeatable, we have to let the fighters fight to determine who is the best, we can’t just go by some stupid rankings that are gonna still rank cro cop in the top three even though he lost convincingly to gonzaga can we? a true champion needs to keep defending his title to remain on top and in a growing sport like this there is new blood coming in all the time with aspirations to be the best, there ARE fighters out there that can and will give fedor some trouble, i’m not saying he’s gonna come to the ufc and lose, he might not ever lose, he might be the greatest of all time, but he needs to keep on fighting to be that, he needs to fight the coutures and the gonzagas and rematch cro cop and keep adding to his legacy because if he doesn’t the what ifs will always be there…he should stop with the petty contract stuff, thats a sorry excuse, i’m sure dana white will give this guy more than enough of what he’s worth, he should give up the T.O. act and sign for a few fights in the ufc, thats where the best fighters are right now and anyone who wants to be the best or claims to be the best needs to go there to prove it, and yes he still has more to prove…

 
Comment by YouTapped
2007-06-10 14:23:14

You guys realize that Fedor is PrideFC HW champ since may 2003, right? He defended his title a dozen times or something. In UFC terms he would be called “the twelve time heavyweight champion of the world”. He’s a three time world champion in sambo and also russian champion in his second consecutive year now. His judo is world-class (most people don’t even know this) and since a couple of years he is also training Muay Thai extensively.

He is THE most complete and dominant fighter of the world - period. The only guy who comes to mind with a somewhat similar diversity in martial arts would be GSP, but he’s lacking the mental stability of Fedor, something Randy calls “stoic”.

Again: he is the best in the world, so challengers should come to him, not the other way around.

As for the “Cro Cop lost, so he can’t be Top3 anymore” thing: you guys need to lose the idea that you have to be unbeatable in this sport to be considered top-notch. Everyone can be beaten in whatever fashion. This takes nothing away from prior achievements and to ruin Cro Cops legacy so far he’d have to be submitted by Joe Rogan.

 
Comment by RT
2007-06-10 14:34:17

fedor would destroy randy, it would not even be close

 
Comment by tha spida
2007-06-10 15:52:34

i definitely still think cro cop is a top fighter in the world, i’m not a if you lose then your done kind of fan, i have a lot of respect for cro cop and think he is certainly a top hw, i was just trying to point out that anyone can win or lose at anytime and there is always competition out there that aren’t necessarily “ranked” real high, like gonzaga, who are tough match ups for the high ranked fighters, like cro cop…there is no doubt that fedor is the best pound for pound fighter in the world, his record speaks for itself and obviously he’s well trained and a champion in many forms of fighting, i don’t think right now there is a better fighter out there, but saying other guys should go to bodog or k-1 or whatever to fight him is ridiculous, ufc puts on the best shows and has the biggest audience, he needs to come here with the other top fighters, he’s being arrogant and acting like the sport is all about him when its definitely a way bigger picture than that…the ufc will get along just fine and continue to prosper without fedor, but pretty soon he’s gonna run out of guys to fight that are worth a damn, shit he’s already fighting guys 40 lbs. lighter than him, if he’s cool with his legacy how it is now then so be it, but if he wants to continue to be a great champion he’s gonna have to make the move eventually, and i think he will…

 
Comment by big daddy
2007-06-10 17:03:01

[quote comment=”76773″][quote comment=”76623″][quote comment=”76612″][/quote]
WHAT IS COUTURE YOUR DADDY …??? WHY ARE YOU PUTTING UP DELUSIONAL SHIT ABOUT A 50YR OLD MAN …??? HES WASHED UP FACE IT …FEDOR WOULD HAVE WOOPED HIS ASS YEARS AGO AND HELL WOOP HIS ASS NOW…[/quote]

I didnt put anything up about Couture I just stated Fedor will lose exspecially if he signs with the UFC. He is a great fighter no doubt about that but he is not the best in my opinion until he fights some top UFC talent. Rankings dont mean anything to me. I in no way am saying Randy Couture would or will win in a match against Fedor Emelianenko. But when alot of people are totally writing Couture off like Fedor could just walk thru him i really really really doubt it would be that easy for Fedor.[/quote]
if your so smart why dont you tell us all who out there is better than fedor …base it on fact not speculation not well if fedor catches nuemonia or some shit …huh …who..????

 
Comment by tha spida
2007-06-10 17:07:22

[quote comment=”76850″][quote comment=”76773″][quote comment=”76623″][quote comment=”76612″][/quote]
WHAT IS COUTURE YOUR DADDY …??? WHY ARE YOU PUTTING UP DELUSIONAL SHIT ABOUT A 50YR OLD MAN …??? HES WASHED UP FACE IT …FEDOR WOULD HAVE WOOPED HIS ASS YEARS AGO AND HELL WOOP HIS ASS NOW…[/quote]

I didnt put anything up about Couture I just stated Fedor will lose exspecially if he signs with the UFC. He is a great fighter no doubt about that but he is not the best in my opinion until he fights some top UFC talent. Rankings dont mean anything to me. I in no way am saying Randy Couture would or will win in a match against Fedor Emelianenko. But when alot of people are totally writing Couture off like Fedor could just walk thru him i really really really doubt it would be that easy for Fedor.[/quote]
if your so smart why dont you tell us all who out there is better than fedor …base it on fact not speculation not well if fedor catches nuemonia or some shit …huh …who..????[/quote]

he saying he doesn’t know dude because he hasn’t seen him fight those guys yet, don’t you get it? he’s not saying fedor is a chump, he’s saying he wants to see him beat the top ufc guys…

 
Comment by big daddy
2007-06-10 17:15:12

[quote comment=”76851″][quote comment=”76850″][quote comment=”76773″][quote comment=”76623″][quote comment=”76612″][/quote]
WHAT IS COUTURE YOUR DADDY …??? WHY ARE YOU PUTTING UP DELUSIONAL SHIT ABOUT A 50YR OLD MAN …??? HES WASHED UP FACE IT …FEDOR WOULD HAVE WOOPED HIS ASS YEARS AGO AND HELL WOOP HIS ASS NOW…[/quote]

I didnt put anything up about Couture I just