tito ortiz from mexico

“I am three weeks into training here in Big Bear and it is going smoothly. I have 4 perfect training partners that keep me strong and on my toes. I feel incredible, my body snapped back into peak performance in no time flat. I certainly expected that since, I really never STOP training. I purchased The De La Hoya compound here in Big Bear and it makes training so much easier than having to drive forever to train, and then drive somewhere else to wrestle… and then drive home to run my 3 miles a day. There are two large homes on the fully gated property with a huge gym with a full weight training facility, octagon, steam room and putting green (although my golfing doesnt weigh in on my skills in the octagon). I am really pumped on caving Rashads face in … more focused than I have ever been I think. He really has no idea what he is in for…I guess until you get your ass kicked really good, you never really do. I am going to make him rethink his career in the UFC. Maybe he should go back to flipping burgers after I put him in a wheel chair.”

– UFC light heavyweight Tito Ortiz provides a colorful training update via MySpace about his upcoming fight with Rashad Evans at UFC 73: “Stacked” on July 7. It was far more fiery than his video interview with NBCSports.com, during which he is far more respectful of Evans, as well as calls UFC President Dana White the “PuppetMaster” and former 205-pound champ Chuck Liddell his “Puppet.”

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Comment by tha spida
2007-06-06 13:32:29

hell yeah tito, shut the haters up, punish him!

 
Comment by Luppers
2007-06-06 13:43:02

lol, haters…
Didnt someone forward Mania an email about Tito buying De La Hoya’s compound? =)

 
Comment by Chris Valentine
2007-06-06 13:43:46

Man I really cannot stand this guys shit talking. It is a joke. The moment the fight is over he recants everything.

With that said, he will do what he has been doing for a while now, he with either send Rashad to “A” level status, or through him back to “B” class fighter. He is not some much a gate Keeper, but more of a talent Agent.

Later
Chris Valentine

 
Comment by PhilQNY
2007-06-06 13:46:22

Tito knows what his doing..it’s great build up for UFC 73..Them not liking eachother..than have to meet in the octagon to handle some business.

 
Comment by MMAFAN204
2007-06-06 13:47:13

The only thing crippled is this guys career!
Gone are the days he can run his mouth and beat people up!
Now he runs his mouth, shows off Jenna, and then gets IT handed to him…except if your name is Shamrock
I used to like this guy, he used to talk the talk and walk the walk, now he just talks the talk and cant back it up.
He just got by Forrest (which after watching it again I think Forrest won) which outside of Shamrock is his only win in recent history.
I really think he should shut his mouth for at least a few fights, then if he can manage a couple GOOD wins back to back bring he can bring back the old TITO. However I don’t see that happening with the new talent in his weight class. Hey maybe Tito can retire and join Jenna in her movies?

 
Comment by twistedneck
2007-06-06 13:51:39

Rashad will take tito on the feet.. it aint like tito’s going to out rastle Evans..

 
Comment by JFan
2007-06-06 13:52:34

jenna’s retired so no chance of Tito joining her in any movies. unless something private gets leaked to the ‘net

 
Comment by tha spida
2007-06-06 13:52:36

[quote comment="74286"]Man I really cannot stand this guys shit talking. It is a joke. The moment the fight is over he recants everything.

With that said, he will do what he has been doing for a while now, he with either send Rashad to “A” level status, or through him back to “B” class fighter. He is not some much a gate Keeper, but more of a talent Agent.

Later
Chris Valentine[/quote]

you’re setting yourself up to be able to bash tito win or lose with your a level and b level fighter thing, if tito wins, you’re gonna be like, oh so what he beat an up and comer, fight someone good, and if he loses you’re gonna give him shit for losing to that “B” level fighter, but isn’t rah a top 5 lhw fighter? who do you think tito should be fighting? i think this is a great match up and you’re making it a lose/lose situation for tito, thats not really fair man…

 
Comment by sac916
2007-06-06 13:54:11

I am going to this fight and i can not wait to see Tito smash him!!!! so all the hater can shut up. After he beats him people will say rashad was not that good anyways and how he was overrated.

 
Comment by tha spida
2007-06-06 13:56:25

plus i dont’ see much shit talking in that statement, he is just saying how good of shape he’s in and how he’s ready to beat rashad, and that rashad better be ready, thats nothing new from any fighter, they all say shit like that…i don’t get how its ok for rampage to say whatever the hell he wants into a microphone, and everybody loves him, but tito can’t say word number one without people jumping down his throat, give the guy a break…

 
Comment by All American
2007-06-06 13:57:57

I hope Rashad knocks his ass back to the good ol days where it can reunite with his mind.

 
Comment by Sir Chokemout
2007-06-06 13:59:12

I hope Rashad feeds him some knees

 
Comment by MMA Dude
2007-06-06 14:00:43

i do think that tito is gonna pose problems for Rashad..if i had to bet i would say tito…i think rashad has to do what Chuck and Forrest did, and thats stuff takedowsn and keep tito standing…if Rashad does win, it will show that he is top talent..so far Jason Lamberts his best win…i dont really care who wins, i just hope its not a snooze fest…

 
Comment by tha spida
2007-06-06 14:00:58

same old jenna trash talk and stupid talk like he hasn’t beat anyone but forrest and he didn’t really beat forrest…thats all bull, first jenna has nothing to do with nothing, second, he did beat forrest, he won the 1st and the 3rd, i don’t think its debatable, third the only fight he’s lost was to liddell recently, he’s beat the dudes the ufc has had him fight, what else do you want from the guy, he doesn’t make the match ups, and fourth, he’s a great coach and trainer and he’s always in great shape and ready to fight, he talks the same ammount of shit that every other fighter does…everyone loved him after tuf 3, where did all that go? whats with the short attention spands, or are you all just letting dana white tell you who to cheer for?

 
Comment by Myrmidon50307
2007-06-06 14:01:27

Tito was a declining fighter before, and it’s just spiraled down the porcelain bowl since. I’ll bet he’s a complete and utter ‘tard-tool in this fight with Evans. (As I’m sure he’s a ‘tard tool with Jenna.

 
Comment by Stafo
2007-06-06 14:05:55

Shit talking or not…..it’s part of the game. This is the fight game…half the batttle is getting in your opponents head and throwing his game off. Whether it helps or not…screw it. From my standpoint Ortiz is the more dominant, experienced fighter that should put this one away. Not saying it will be a walk through the park, but I see him out working him possibly winning a unam. dec. Ortiz hands are much better. The wrestling match will be a battle (takedowns), but the expereience will kick in. Tito knows he needs this win. It could be do or die for him. Rashad win or lose will be given an excuse to continue. Tito needs this. He is definetly serious w/ the new purchase of De La Hoya’s facility in BB. He’s investing in himself and his team. Obviously he is here to stay. Ortiz will win this fight

 
Comment by adam
2007-06-06 14:20:35

tito ortiz press conference after the fight

every champion needs to get there ass kicked. im just focusing on traing hard, coming back even stronger and getting back to my title. he pushed me hard like i never been pushed before he took me down and i have never been taken down before in my career.
Randy vs. ortiz post fight conference and he was taken down before guy metzger ufc 6

 
Comment by RenzoHatfield
2007-06-06 14:21:58

the difference between Rampage’s shit talking and Tito’s is that Rampage is hilarious and Tito comes off as an arrogant douche.

also i don’t recall ‘Page talking about paralyzing Liddell… it’s a little reminiscent of Mike Tyson eating peoples’ children and what not.

 
Comment by JaCoB
2007-06-06 14:22:48

One of many good attractions to the “stacked” UFC 73 card. Is there anyone who is not going to order this fight?

 
Comment by thenovemberact
2007-06-06 14:25:16

Tito is just talking shit because he knows this is the end if he loses, and i hope Rashaed beats titos ass!

 
Comment by machine
2007-06-06 14:25:44

Tito can only win this fight via GnP & he MUST win it in the 1st rd. Why? Because Tito has a history of starting out incredibly aggresive & if he is unable to finish the fight right there then his confidence immediately wanes. When you measure this against Rah’s “grinder” mentality & his KO power (which Tito does not have), it’s the only chance Tito’s got. FYI, I’m picking Rah to win this one either by TKO or decision.

 
Comment by Jo
2007-06-06 14:27:23

Didn’t he pay 2 or 3 mil for that compound?
Looks like he is doing well and who doesn’t trash talk before a fight? He is hyping it up

 
Comment by tha spida
2007-06-06 14:27:44

[quote comment="74322"]the difference between Rampage’s shit talking and Tito’s is that Rampage is hilarious and Tito comes off as an arrogant douche.[/quote]

thats not really a good argument since its all “shit talking”, either you think shit talking is funny or arrogant, but in the end its still shit talking, why is rampage being funny and tito is being arrogant? sounds like you just like one guy and don’t like the other, so you say its cool for your guy to talk shit, but not cool for the guy you don’t like, thats a contradiction, because its all shit talking, pretty unfair to praise one guy for something and then bash another guy for the same thing…

 
Comment by muto
2007-06-06 14:29:22

First, what is going on here is what Tito wants to go on and the UFC too. Tito runs his mouth to the point that the fans are more anticipated about his bout than the 2 title matches. You Tito haters actually are doing him a favor. Cracks me up. He admittedly says he is a business man 1st and fighter 2nd. What does that mean? He wants to make money and to make money he has to sell himself. He is doing just that. And the haters are lining his pockets. LOL

Secondly, this is RE 1st big-time fight. What more than to have the UFC badboy keep putting shit in your ears. Tito is hoping to have RE so damn mad by the time the fight starts that Evans will abandon his gameplan to just try and rip the shit out of Tito. No one has talked shit to Evans yet (havent seen any anyways) before a fight, so Tito will relentlessly throw darts at Rashaad to see how he handles it.

Win-win for Tito. He sells more PPV and at the same time gets to keep puttinf crap in Evans’ head.

 
Comment by JaCoB
2007-06-06 14:30:03

All that talk is part of the marketing scheme.

 
Comment by RenzoHatfield
2007-06-06 14:31:14

[quote comment="74328"][quote comment="74322"]the difference between Rampage’s shit talking and Tito’s is that Rampage is hilarious and Tito comes off as an arrogant douche.[/quote]

thats not really a good argument since its all “shit talking”, either you think shit talking is funny or arrogant, but in the end its still shit talking, why is rampage being funny and tito is being arrogant? sounds like you just like one guy and don’t like the other, so you say its cool for your guy to talk shit, but not cool for the guy you don’t like, thats a contradiction, because its all shit talking, pretty unfair to praise one guy for something and then bash another guy for the same thing…[/quote]

guilty as charged

plus, i just haven’t said ‘douche’ in a while, so i figured now would be an appropriate time.

 
Comment by JaCoB
2007-06-06 14:32:11

Muto that was some good stuff. Look at all the anticipation for this fight. It is being made out to be bigger than the two title fights.

 
2007-06-06 14:35:17

say good bye to mma tito.

 
Comment by JaCoB
2007-06-06 14:39:26

[quote comment="74339"]say good bye to mma tito.[/quote]

I don’t think that he is done, especially when he attracts as much attention for a non-title fight.

 
2007-06-06 14:43:23

[quote comment="74300"]plus i dont’ see much shit talking in that statement, he is just saying how good of shape he’s in and how he’s ready to beat rashad, and that rashad better be ready, thats nothing new from any fighter, they all say shit like that…i don’t get how its ok for rampage to say whatever the hell he wants into a microphone, and everybody loves him, but tito can’t say word number one without people jumping down his throat, give the guy a break…[/quote]

Why is it that everyone hates Tito?

 
Comment by Mr.mayn
2007-06-06 14:52:03

[quote post="2337"]I really think he should shut his mouth for at least a few fights, then if he can manage a couple GOOD wins back to back bring he can bring back the old TITO. However I don’t see that happening with the new talent in his weight class. Hey maybe Tito can retire and join Jenna in her movies? [/quote]

I Agree..The only way for Tito to survive in the UFC without being considered a joke would be to shut the fuck up for a while and concentrate on his weaknesses(striking, and take downs on dominant strikers)..I believe that Tito’s fan base would increase if he all of a sudden stopped being a shit talker and started being fearless agressive guy with a real and i mean real hunger to become champ..

At first he was loved for his ability to predict his victories by talkin shit..Now that just aint cuttin it anymore..If he wants to be the man he was..the first thing in my opinion that needs to change would be his approach to fighting, because all he tries to do is make his opponents look inferior to him and if and when he loses just makes him look like a pussy.

 
Comment by MrFye
2007-06-06 15:01:01

I hate his grave digger celebration that he does after a win.

 
Comment by "Mr. NC-17"
2007-06-06 15:01:31

[quote comment="74345"][quote comment="74300"]

Why is it that everyone hates Tito?[/quote]

That is a great ?, right now I am wearing all my punishment gear, I know TITO personally is not the greatest person alive, but in the octagon Tito Ortiz is still one of the best fighters in MMA.

 
Comment by whatthef
2007-06-06 15:13:22

He’s gonna need Jenna’s personal face doctor after Rashad put’s a beating on his face….Why do Tito’s insults or cut lows or whatever you want to call them sound as lame as they would coming out of a 3rd graders mouth……..FREE PARIS!!!

 
Comment by Octagonal
2007-06-06 15:34:12

Just out of curiosity, does anyone else think Tito looks like a Baked Potato?

 
Comment by DirtyML
2007-06-06 15:37:06

“as well as calls UFC President Dana White the “PuppetMaster” and former 205-pound champ Chuck Liddell his “Puppet.”"

Tito would know better than anyone else what it feels like to be Dana’s puppet.

 
Comment by Myrmidon50307
2007-06-06 15:40:30

plus, i just haven’t said “douche’ in a while, so i figured now would be an appropriate time.

Yeah, I haven’t used “‘tard” or “tool” in a minute, so I thought it’d be funny to combine them both.

I think he looks like a white Dennis Rodman…(or I guess that’d be a black Dennis Rodman…lol)

 
Comment by ShatteredDreams
2007-06-06 15:49:06

Somehow I think people are making way too much out of this.

It’s a MYSPACE blog entry.
Yeesh.

 
Comment by Rear Naked Clam Jam
2007-06-06 15:50:43

I’m pullin for Tito in this one. Trash talking or not he is one bad moe-foe. He better not look past Rashad though. That guy is for real. He is an athlete. Either way it looks like its going to be a great fight. By the way, Tito is far from done in MMA. When your fight is pictured over 2 title fights, your not going anywhere. Win or loose he will be back.

 
Comment by SaVaGe
2007-06-06 16:20:07

[quote post="2337"]you’re setting yourself up to be able to bash tito win or lose with your a level and b level fighter thing[/quote]
da Spida, you make some great points. Tito can only fight who they put in front of him, Tito boning Jenna has nothing to do with nothing, Tito’s trash talking isn’t really talking sh*t and he was a great coach on TUF.

Tito is a cardio machine and is always ready to fight. So why all the hating?

Stupid names like Bad Boy and Team Punishment.

Shows 0 respect for his opponents (grave digging, flying the bird to the Lion’s Den)

Hispanic using racial slurs against Evans (nappy head)

That squeeky ass Michael Jackson, Mike Tyson voice.

Burning bridges (he wouldnt even be in the UFC if not for his ex beggin Dana, plus calling Dana White the “PuppetMaster” and Chuck Liddell his “Puppet”" – Dana sure worked those marionette fists all over Tito’s face)

Crying when he is defeated.

Doesn’t like to get hit.

Lay-n-pray style.

Outright jealousy (sporting an ex-porn starlett that can suck golf balls thru 100 ft of garden hose, begs for anal and prefers threesomes with her hot girlfriends – damn!)

I’m not a Rashad fan and I am not sure he has the goods to beat Tito, but on July 7 he will be my favorite fighter, as is any fighter facing Ortiz.

 
Comment by mcanena
2007-06-06 16:25:06

I hope Tito destroys this damn fool,Evans is a boring boring fighter who is happy to win via boring desicion,Tito is one of the most exciting fighters the UFC has ever had and like it or not he is important to the UFC as he has played a big part in gettin it where it is today.

 
Comment by BLOodyMEss
2007-06-06 16:33:09

I bet Jenna leaves with the winner regardless…

 
Comment by BLOodyMEss
2007-06-06 16:41:18

[quote comment="74325"]Tito can only win this fight via GnP & he MUST win it in the 1st rd. Why? Because Tito has a history of starting out incredibly aggresive & if he is unable to finish the fight right there then his confidence immediately wanes. When you measure this against Rah’s “grinder” mentality & his KO power (which Tito does not have), it’s the only chance Tito’s got. FYI, I’m picking Rah to win this one either by TKO or decision.[/quote]

I think Tito’s only chance to win is by decision, which will mean the fight sucked. He needs to avoid the knockout and he will probably squeek by. The question is where will Tito stand if he wins? Thats the only variable. Either way Rashaad will keep fighting in the UFC, he’s young and a loss to Tito will not destroy his rep. However if Tito loses he will be a joke and wont fight in the UFC again. thats leaves me wondering if he could actually get another title shot by beating Evans…?

 
Comment by Extreme TKO
2007-06-06 16:42:04

I think this proves that Tito is underestimating Rashad, and like I said on my site earlier today, Rashad is NOT a pushover. I think Tito will lose. I’m putting money on Rashad.

 
Comment by tha spida
2007-06-06 16:55:45

[quote comment="74436"][quote post="2337"]
Stupid names like Bad Boy and Team Punishment.

Shows 0 respect for his opponents (grave digging, flying the bird to the Lion’s Den)

Hispanic using racial slurs against Evans (nappy head)

That squeeky ass Michael Jackson, Mike Tyson voice.

Burning bridges (he wouldnt even be in the UFC if not for his ex beggin Dana, plus calling Dana White the “PuppetMaster” and Chuck Liddell his “Puppet”" – Dana sure worked those marionette fists all over Tito’s face)

Crying when he is defeated.

Doesn’t like to get hit.

Lay-n-pray style.

Outright jealousy (sporting an ex-porn starlett that can suck golf balls thru 100 ft of garden hose, begs for anal and prefers threesomes with her hot girlfriends – damn!)

I’m not a Rashad fan and I am not sure he has the goods to beat Tito, but on July 7 he will be my favorite fighter, as is any fighter facing Ortiz.[/quote]

i don’t think team punishment is stupid, i think its a good name, everyone celebrates after winning and the flipping the bird thing was after a lot of back and forth shit talking between the two sides and it was justified, the squeeky voice thing is stupid, you’re reaching there, he’s denied that his ex wife begged dana to let him back in the ufc, once again you’re letting dana white tell you who to cheer for, and i’m pretty sure dana white doesn’t like tito ortiz, but he keeps him around because he puts asses in the seats and eyes on the screen and dollars in his pockets, i don’t think his ex wife had anything to do with it, so i don’t think anyone had to beg to bring him back, all passionate athletes that put everything into winning get emotional when they don’t reach their goals, a lot of fighters cry, forrest cried, pretty much every tuf fighter that has ever lost cried, and tito’s only lost 5 times in his whole career, how many times has he cried? who does like to get hit? he never lays and prays, he grounds and pounds…and who is he outright jealous at? and again what does his girl showing support for him at his fights have anything to do with that???? cmon man, you’re looking for reasons to not like the guy, probably because most people don’t and you’re following the popular opinion, its crazy, you could say everything you just said about 95% of the fighters in the ufc…

 
Comment by muto
2007-06-06 17:07:01

[quote comment="74436"][quote post="2337"]you’re setting yourself up to be able to bash tito win or lose with your a level and b level fighter thing[/quote]
da Spida, you make some great points. Tito can only fight who they put in front of him, Tito boning Jenna has nothing to do with nothing, Tito’s trash talking isn’t really talking sh*t and he was a great coach on TUF.

Tito is a cardio machine and is always ready to fight. So why all the hating?

Stupid names like Bad Boy and Team Punishment.

Shows 0 respect for his opponents (grave digging, flying the bird to the Lion’s Den)

Hispanic using racial slurs against Evans (nappy head)

That squeeky ass Michael Jackson, Mike Tyson voice.

Burning bridges (he wouldnt even be in the UFC if not for his ex beggin Dana, plus calling Dana White the “PuppetMaster” and Chuck Liddell his “Puppet”" – Dana sure worked those marionette fists all over Tito’s face)

Crying when he is defeated.

Doesn’t like to get hit.

Lay-n-pray style.

Outright jealousy (sporting an ex-porn starlett that can suck golf balls thru 100 ft of garden hose, begs for anal and prefers threesomes with her hot girlfriends – damn!)

I’m not a Rashad fan and I am not sure he has the goods to beat Tito, but on July 7 he will be my favorite fighter, as is any fighter facing Ortiz.[/quote]

I need my decoder ring for this one. Can I borrow someones?

People bashing Tito for flipping off the fucking Lion’s Den? Lucky he didnt go spit on those assholes. The Lion’s Den is known to be jerks. Yeah the grave digger is a little over the top, but like I said before, it sells (I am a Tito fan, but I hate the gravedigger BS).

Has Rashad gotten better over the last 3-4 fights? Yes. But he still cant pass the guard. He has gotten better at it, but not enought to pass Tito’s. If Evans can not sprawl like Chuck, which no one can, Tito will take him down and punish him. Rashad has not fought anyone close to Tito’s caliber nor Tito’s ability to push the pace, force pressure, relentlessness. I like Rashad, but dont see him pulling this one out, unless it is a one punch/kick KO type of thing.

And you guys think Tito will be finished after a loss. He would not have bought De La Hoyas combine for $??? million if he was on the verge of being pushed out.

 
Comment by SaVaGe
2007-06-06 17:15:53

tha spida,
You didnt address the racist comment or puppets.
All your other arguments make perfect sense – to a Tito nuthugger.
What other team has a name like Punishment? That isnt what MMA is all about. I will digress as I think nicknames like Executioner and Crippler are even worse.
The jealousy is on my part – I thought I worded it clearly.
I don’t think the haters are 95%…just wait till the posts start flyin’.
I was just having some fun hating on Tito…don’t have an aneurysm or embolism.

 
Comment by Frizz
2007-06-06 17:25:07

This is make or break for Ortiz. I wonder who his training partners really are? I think he needs some high level atheletes and not just Matt Hamill, Burkman or fat ass Ricco Rodriguez.

Randy turned him down for training help and I’m sure Quinton isn’t up there working with him. It’s kind of ironic that the fighters out there that could help Tito train, he has pushed away or rubbed the wrong way.

I have always been a Tito fan, but I must admit…..it has been hard to be his fan lately. Tito has become a caricature of himself.

This is a big fight for both men. It’s Tito’s shot back into title contention and it’s Rashad’s biggest test to date.

One thing is for sure, Tito is no Sean Salmon.

 
Comment by tha spida
2007-06-06 17:33:16

i’m not a nut hugger on anyone dude, and the 95% was for all the fighters in the ufc that can be described like you described tito, as far as the nappy headed ho thing, i’d rather not touch that, but since you’re forcing it, i thought it was pretty funny, rampage says shit like that all the time, i laughed, i think tito was more making fun of the media for blowing something like that out of proportion like they did, and you not liking the name of the dudes team is a really good reason to not like the guy, and you can have fun all you want hating on tito, its just pointless, and i’m just defending the guy because i think he’s a good ass fighter and unfairly hated on by guys like you for stupid reasons like who he dates or what the name of his team is…

 
Comment by tha spida
2007-06-06 17:35:02

[quote comment="74463"]I think this proves that Tito is underestimating Rashad, and like I said on my site earlier today, Rashad is NOT a pushover. I think Tito will lose. I’m putting money on Rashad.[/quote]

i think it proves the opposite, i think it proves he’s training harder than ever because he has respect for the dude and knows its gonna be a war, he said he’s in better shape than ever and i don’t think he’d be training that hard if he didn’t have respect for rashad as a fighter…

 
Comment by RoB
2007-06-06 17:46:46

[quote comment="74510"]i’m not a nut hugger on anyone dude, and the 95% was for all the fighters in the ufc that can be described like you described tito, as far as the nappy headed ho thing, i’d rather not touch that, but since you’re forcing it, i thought it was pretty funny, rampage says shit like that all the time, i laughed, i think tito was more making fun of the media for blowing something like that out of proportion like they did, and you not liking the name of the dudes team is a really good reason to not like the guy, and you can have fun all you want hating on tito, its just pointless, and i’m just defending the guy because i think he’s a good ass fighter and unfairly hated on by guys like you for stupid reasons like who he dates or what the name of his team is…[/quote]
yeah easy on the racist thing, Rampage says lots of things that can be considered racist but people take them for what they are sh1t talkin.

 
Comment by thenovemberact
2007-06-06 18:00:56

[quote comment="74511"][quote comment="74463"]I think this proves that Tito is underestimating Rashad, and like I said on my site earlier today, Rashad is NOT a pushover. I think Tito will lose. I’m putting money on Rashad.[/quote]

i think it proves the opposite, i think it proves he’s training harder than ever because he has respect for the dude and knows its gonna be a war, he said he’s in better shape than ever and i don’t think he’d be training that hard if he didn’t have respect for rashad as a fighter…[/quote]

Tito did say he respected Rashad, i just dont like how tito talks shit, i dont think hes really getting in anyone’s head, he just makes himself look like an asshole, i think the fight will be very exciting, but i say Rashad unanmos decicsion

 
Comment by BLOodyMEss
2007-06-06 18:13:44

But does Rashaad have the cardio to go 3 rounds with tito?

 
Comment by "Mr. NC-17"
2007-06-06 18:36:21

Ok for people who say that Tito is disrespectful to his opponents, watch UFC 51 Super Saturday, after the Vitor Belfort/Tito Ortiz fight, see what Tito does to Vitor.
That was class what he said to Belfort, people say he has no respect for fighters is bogus, he respects them, just does not like them. You can not tell me you have liked everyone in your life and you have always acted in a nice manner. No, Tito has beef with Evans, Liddell and Sucky Slamlock (Ken Shamrock) so what, he spices up MMA he makes it more fun to watch, Ortiz is a great fighter.

 
Comment by "Mr. NC-17"
2007-06-06 18:45:25

http://youtube.com/watch?v=cmq4u0_NwPY

Just to show you how strong Tito Ortiz is.
And what will happen to Rashad Evans

 
Comment by SaVaGe
2007-06-06 18:58:02

[quote post="2337"]95% was for all the fighters in the ufc that can be described like you described tito[/quote]
tha spida,
I saw that after rereading the post…I misread that part…with the lack of punctuation and such it was all running together. My bad on that point. Still, I think that % is probably backwards. Most fighters have mutual respect, or at worst in prefight interviews say something like “I wanna break his face or I want to hurt the guy.” – not I want to “put him in a wheelchair”.
Notice I gave you props for all your good points. I quoted you for that reason, not to flame you. If you browse other topics you would find other times I quoted you in agreement.
Notice I also gave props to Tito’s cardio and his readiness to fight. I never said Rah would handle Tito either.
Just a jovial hater response…you would think I said I banged your sister (and she was a lame lay) or something. Lighten up.

 
Comment by The Anomaly
2007-06-06 19:14:07

Man i’m looking forward to this fight. Could go either way. As shown by the fact that it is about 50 50 here on this post for people saying tito will win, and saying rashad will. This could go either way. Sadly, I can’t see any one of these guys finishing the other, and I see this going to a descision. I think it will be pretty exciting though. Like Couture and Tito, except much more even. Tito has talked like this since his first major fight don’t know why some are acting suprised its nothing new. And people hate on Tito like who has he beaten, but still, besides Chuck and Couture, who has he lost to? Frank Shamrock eons ago? Tito is no pushover either, this will be a great fight.

 
Comment by c-war
2007-06-06 19:19:17

Tito says the exact same thing before all his fights, its kinda funny, but I think he should win this one.

 
Comment by jason bang
2007-06-06 19:27:33

Rashad has never fought anybody at Tito’s level so i think Tito will steam roll him.

 
Comment by Tommy
2007-06-06 19:35:22

Theres no doubt that Tito is more experienced and has what it takes to beat Rashad decent. Recently I can even admit his attitude has been better as well. Still hope Rashad KO’s him though. That I think will finish humbling him.

 
Comment by t-bone
2007-06-06 19:37:11

tito is going to walk all over rashad…he has fought better fighters and is more experienced. tito wants the belt back more than ever now and hes training harder and looking a lot better

 
Comment by Mahde
2007-06-06 20:29:07

Evans in the second round via TKO.

 
Comment by gvoll
2007-06-06 20:56:50

I THINK RASHAUDS THE FAVE IN THIS ONE…

 
Comment by tha spida
2007-06-06 21:34:07

[quote comment="74582"][quote post="2337"]95% was for all the fighters in the ufc that can be described like you described tito[/quote]
tha spida,
I saw that after rereading the post…I misread that part…with the lack of punctuation and such it was all running together. My bad on that point. Still, I think that % is probably backwards. Most fighters have mutual respect, or at worst in prefight interviews say something like “I wanna break his face or I want to hurt the guy.” – not I want to “put him in a wheelchair”.
Notice I gave you props for all your good points. I quoted you for that reason, not to flame you. If you browse other topics you would find other times I quoted you in agreement.
Notice I also gave props to Tito’s cardio and his readiness to fight. I never said Rah would handle Tito either.
Just a jovial hater response…you would think I said I banged your sister (and she was a lame lay) or something. Lighten up.[/quote]

haha, i wasn’t getting upset dude, i was just arguing back, i’m just trying to defend the guy, i’m not trying to attack you, i like you as a poster, i’m just attacking your tito bashing, we can’t always agree, i’m just taking the other side on this one bro, the sister comment was pretty funny though…

 
Comment by PaddyCakes
2007-06-06 22:05:49

Wow, a lot of UFC fans must have Rashads last two fights still running through their heads because those were his only to fights he has ever finished!!(Rashad was being out wrestled and out struck by Salmon before the kick) Don’t get me wrong Tito doesn’t finish guys often, but he has stopped more guys then Rashad ever has.

I would just like to remind everyone to watch all of Rashads fights…there is where you see the true Rashad, the one that either A, is always slightly ahead in the score cards or B losing and out of no where gets an amazing head kick on a guy who has his hands down, or a guy that he has to progress to full mount to finish.

Tito on the other hand can finish guys while in their GUARD! Or by simply picking them up and slamming them.
I’m not saying that this will be an easy fight for Tito, but he has fought way harder guys then Rashad. While the hardest guy Rashad has fought was most likely Lambert. If anything this fight will look similar to Tito vs. Forrest (Tito being at 70% health wise). But, I still don’t see Rashad out striking Tito and or out-wrestling Tito. IMO Tito and Rashad have equal striking ability, but still I see Tito’s wrestling about two notches above Rashad’s.

Tito by TKO in round 1 or Tito by Unanimous Decision!!

All in all Tito’s got this one! (This will be a test for Rashad just like Tito was a test for Forrest)
p.s. Sorry for the long ass comments all the time!

 
Comment by SaVaGe
2007-06-06 22:11:57

[quote post="2337"]haha, i wasn’t getting upset dude, i was just arguing back, i’m just trying to defend the guy, i’m not trying to attack you, i like you as a poster, i’m just attacking your tito bashing, we can’t always agree, i’m just taking the other side on this one bro, the sister comment was pretty funny though… [/quote]
Cool. Mutual respect. I am a Tito hater obviously, not a spida hater. I was havin some fun with the Tito lovers is all. I can hate on Tito, Hillbilly Hughes and Timid Tim (the whole MFS camp really), nut hug my fighters, agree and disagree with opinions while respecting posters. That’s what the site is for after all.

 
Comment by gvoll
2007-06-07 00:00:34

i wonder if jenna walks around with stilettos all day still,if anything titos one lucky s.o.b.goddamn that broad is smokin

 
Comment by jason bang
2007-06-07 08:11:42

[quote comment="74668"]I THINK RASHAUDS THE FAVE IN THIS ONE…[/quote]
How is he the favorite. Tito has always fought top flight competition(except for Shamrock) so i’d say Tito is the fav in this fight.

 
Comment by muto
2007-06-07 09:04:44

[quote comment="74668"]I THINK RASHAUDS THE FAVE IN THIS ONE…[/quote]

RE will not be favored. My best guess would be, wihout looking up past odds, Tito -140 to -160 and Evans 130 to 150.

Remeber Vegas doesnt set the line or odds where they think it shuld be, they set it to where they think they will get 50/50 action.

 
Comment by LUKE
2007-06-07 13:22:49

a punk then, a punk now. I don’t expect more from Tito. Tito, btw, Evans went to college so I don’t think he’d be flipping burgers. Did you even finish high school?? prop. not, b/c you sound like you’re still haven’t done grade school.

 
Comment by The Anomaly
2007-06-07 17:38:55

[quote post="2337"]Wow, a lot of UFC fans must have Rashads last two fights still running through their heads because those were his only to fights he has ever finished!!(Rashad was being out wrestled and out struck by Salmon before the kick) Don’t get me wrong Tito doesn’t finish guys often, but he has stopped more guys then Rashad ever has[/quote]
Fighters change and get better. Rashad obviously has. When you rate a fighter going into his next fight, you don’t look at ten fights ago, you look at him more recently, Rashad has obviously gotten better since his days fighting that big oger on the finale. The current Rashad is the one that mounted and pounded out Lambert, and the one that high kicked Salmon. You said it like when he mounted Lambert that was something to look down upon in your other comment, like, “Oh man he HAD to mount him just to finish him”. I think that says something about Rashad’s ground game. I’ll admit, he against Salmon his wrestling was kinda shabby, but he was primarily focused on getting up to strike, not really dominating ground game.
Having said that, that fact that Salmon was able to do anyhting at all is nervracking for Rashad’s party, cuz i’ll tell you one thing Salmon is no where near Tito. This is gonna be a very interesting fight.

 
Comment by AaronW
2007-06-08 13:42:43

I think Tito is going to take him. Not a big fan of his but I have to respect his abilities.

 
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