Karo is the Business..he deserves a shot at the title sooner or later.

IDK how Karo does math, but he says he got something out of fighting Burkman b/c he was top 10. Yet Fitch choked out Burkman and beat him much more convincingly than Karo not to mention Fitch is higher ranked than Burkman and he gets nothing out of it??? Sounds like someone is a lil hesitant to step in the cage which Fitch. Although things are looking that with a Fitch win on Tuesday Karo wont have a choice. Its about damn time. But first things first Caneiro is a ligit contender and in no way is a cake walk for Fitch. I got Fitch in rd 2 via ground and pound.

As stated in the article KOS/GSP gets the winner of Matt/Matt which we know will be taking place late in the year, maybe even lean into 2008. I do feel Karo might fall in right after that for a title shot, but the guy has to stay active throughout his wait. The Karo we saw against Burkman was a tough, very improved Karo. His conditioning must of been great too because he was not gassed at all. Burkman was struggling. Karo/Fitch would be a great move for both fighters possibly leading into next title shot after GSP/KOS shot. Whatever Karo did for this training camp against Burkman he needs to repeat for now on. There is too much of a layoff with whats going on with 170 belt so it would be best for him to fight. Karo should fight Fitch. My pick is Karo over Fitch if it goes down. Similar fight to Burkman

I think Karo/Fitch would def be an awesome fight. Both guys handled Burkman. The only difference is that Fitch actually finished Burkman. If Fitch were to beat Karo, that would def put him in contention.

And despite Karo being extremely talented, I dont think its much of a crime that he has to wait for a title shot. He’s 24 years old. He’ll be around long enough to see at least one title shot, probably more.

So if Fitch doesn’t blow it against carneiro we’ll see it? what if fitch loses this fight? Parisyan vs Carneiro?

[quote comment="74221"]So if Fitch doesn’t blow it against carneiro we’ll see it? what if fitch loses this fight? Parisyan vs Carneiro?[/quote]
Thats a good ? but I think if Fitch loses, I think it still will be a Fitch/Karo showdown and man that just sounds so good to my ears.
That fight would be incredible, but I think Karo would beat him, with all due respect to Jon Fitch who is a remarkable athelte and an icredible fighter, Karo just seems to be unstoppable right now. I bet you that if Deigo and Karo would fight again I think Karo would finish Diego in round 2.

Karo always gets underscorred with these title shots.

How about the Heat VS the Nightmare 2?

Carneiro has a sketchy record with a few sketchy loses, that being said, i have a funny feeling about this fight.

Carneiro is very athletic and has good hands and is good on the ground. I could see a upset here, especially since Fitch’s head maybe some where else, he seems pissed he is not fighting tougher fights!!

I i had to pick the next upset, this would be it!

from everything ive heard from Fitch in his interviews and a couple of his posts on this site, he is not taking Carneiro lightly, and knows that Carneiro is a legit opponant..I would give Fitch the advantage standing, and wrestling..Carneiro has a jits advantage…they are both athletic, Fitch is extremely athletic…i think Fitch pulls this one off…as far as Karo goes, im begining to not like debating fights that aren’t scheduled yet, for the simple fact that they often dont happen…but if it does happen it will be an awesome fight…it would be exciting, but probably more technical that Karo/Burkman, i think Fitch would fare nicely

[quote post="2336"]I think Karo/Fitch would def be an awesome fight. Both guys handled Burkman. The only difference is that Fitch actually finished Burkman. If Fitch were to beat Karo, that would def put him in contention.
And despite Karo being extremely talented, I dont think its much of a crime that he has to wait for a title shot. He’s 24 years old. He’ll be around long enough to see at least one title shot, probably more. [/quote]

Hey I didnt know Karo is only 24..thats cool..I also believe karo is very talented..I just hope he keeps up the hard work..I believe that if karo becomes becomes determined to become better and better he will definatly be champ..but..sometimes i feel like karo doesn’t realize that there is always room for improvement..and in the end confident fighters prevail, while cocky mothas get dropped..

[quote comment="74236"]

he seems pissed he is not fighting tougher fights!!

I i had to pick the next upset, this would be it![/quote]

i didn’t get that he was pissed at all from his recent comments, i think he’s been showing respect to carneiro and is content with fighting whoever the ufc puts in front of him, i doubt very seriously that carneiro is gonna win this fight because fitch is over looking him, if carneiro some how wins, it will be because he was the better guy that night, but i don’t see that happening, i think fitch will be ready to fight on tuesday and will win before the final bell…as far as fitch vs. karo, thats the fight i can’t wait for, i think they match up very nicely and that could be a fight of the year candidate, but i think fitch would probably get his first loss in that fight, i think karo right now is on a mission to get the belt and i think he would beat fitch, probably by decision…but who would fight karo if fitch were to lose to carneiro? i don’t see the ufc putting diego in a situation where he could possibly lose two in a row, i’m not saying diego would lose to karo, but who knows if those two fought again, and if not diego then maybe bj penn back at 170 would be a good match up or possibly the loser of koscheck/gsp (koscheck)…

Who ever fights Karo should expect a war because he can take a punch and man can he throw one too..Maybe he doesnt have knock out power but he does have power so in a sense thats worse..

I think that it would be a great fight to see who deserves a Title shot more. I say Karo Vs Finch (granted he must beat carneiro) would be the first really good title contention fight in a long time.

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Chris Valentine

I’d love to see Karo vs. Fitch. Almost guaranteed to go to decision and almost guaranteed to be a great fight the whole way through. The winner would have to get a title shot as soon as the bottleneck clears up. Contrary to Karo’s claim, I think he would prove much more with a win over Fitch than with Burkman (who I never believed was a Top 10 fighter). Fitch certainly is an A-level fighter. The problem for Fitch (and I think this is what Karo was aluding to with his “don’t gain anything” comment) is that he’s not a high-profile fighter. But for the UFC and with fans who follow closely, beating Fitch would remove a lot of doubts about Karo after the loss to Diego.

Karo vs Fitch would be a good one, he definitely took a step back fighting Burkman, not so with Fitch, I think Fitch is close to Karo’s level. Where is diego in the mix? He beat Karo so I think a rematch is in order here to see who is the next contender after gsp/koscheck. Someone mentioned earlier about how good he looked, I agree his stand up has improved but the only reason he looked so good was because he was fighting burkman not Penn,Hughes or Gsp. I wasn’t impressed with the burkman/Karo fight it was kind of close, gsp ran threw and finished top guys, something Karo never did. Personally I wouldn’t give him a title shot until he actually finishes someone, he’s Mr. decision.

I still get angry that it was Karo/Burkman instead of Fitch/Karo at the last PPV. How does the UFC put Burkman ahead of Fitch. Burkman has multiple losses in the UFC and Fitch dominated him, choking him out to finish him. Burkman’s entire face looked swollen after the match.

Thinking back, when was the last time Karo even finished a fight. He is someone that almost always goes the distance and wins by decision. Then when he loses a decision he cries about it. Well maybe if he had any sort of killer instinct, he wouldn’t have to leave all of his fights in the hands of the judges!

ya karo might “leave for a title”, key word leave if he doesn’t get what he wants, tuf series aside, he should be inline right after Matt and Matt then Gsp and one of the Matts(if he destoys kos), the next choice is definately between Karo and Fitch

Fitch will beat Karo. It will be a great fight though…

[quote comment="74236"]Carneiro has a sketchy record with a few sketchy loses, that being said, i have a funny feeling about this fight.

Carneiro is very athletic and has good hands and is good on the ground. I could see a upset here, especially since Fitch’s head maybe some where else, he seems pissed he is not fighting tougher fights!!

I i had to pick the next upset, this would be it![/quote]
Come On dude. Fitch is not bitching about that shit. Read the damn interview from yesterday. Fitch completely has his head on the match and is not taking Roan lightly at all.

[quote post="2336"]Personally I wouldn’t give him a title shot until he actually finishes someone, he’s Mr. decision. [/quote]
Good point Nathan. Karo’s title shot before the injury is not valid because the dynamics of the division have changed. There is plenty of time for Karo to knock off the top contenders at 170, then he will get his shot. I didnt think the Burkman fight was that close, but Karo should have pushed for a (T)KO or sub. Coasting wont get you a title shot.
I say Fitch maybe Diego again (loser of Serra/Hughes or GSP) = Karo title shot. If he cant get past Diego or can’t knock off the #1 contender (who in my mind is GSP…Hughes should have to get past GSP for his title shot – TUF6 coaches stunt is BS) then he is not deserving.

while the karo-burkman fight was good am i the only one who felt the burkmans only chance was one of tho haymakers(punchers chance). i would like to see fitch fight diego, the real diego.

i meant to say that fight was designed for a entertaining karo win with some bad ass judo throws. heat- fitch would of been a better fight

Karo does have a bit of trouble finishing people doesn’t he? Who was the last person he finished? It’s too bad that his judo throws don’t knock people out because thats one of the sickest moves I see in UFC!

Karo is extremely hard to finish, he has a good chin the only time I can remember him getting dropped was by Serra, and has great submission defense. By the same token he has great difficulty actually finishing anyone either, he usually lives up to his name “the heat” but his judo while eye catching doesn’t seem to really inflict much damage on anyone. This is what I would like to see happen.
diego vs fitch maybe ufc 73
winner vs parisyan ufc 75 koscheck vs st.pierre ufc 74
the two winners fight the winner of
Hughes/Serra

[quote comment="74548"]Karo does have a bit of trouble finishing people doesn’t he? Who was the last person he finished? It’s too bad that his judo throws don’t knock people out because thats one of the sickest moves I see in UFC![/quote]
Yeah good point. I think it would be a nice fight, but I give it to Karo. I think Fitch has not had enough tough fights, I think a couple more tough fights he would be ready, I could be wrong though. I think Karo would have beat Diego also if it was not for the fact he gassed it seemed. I want Diego/Karo II also. Any one of those fights would be nice. I give them all to Karo though. Actually no god its hard to decide, Karo and Fitch would be a awsome fight. Is it just me or does Fitch’s fighting style remind you of a WW Matt Linland?

Opps I meant the winners of ufc 74 and 75 fight each other and the winner gets a title shot. Let Gsp get in a couple of fights before another title shot, and if Parisyan could get past those guys for a title shot, he definitely earned it in my book.

I’ll try this again what I would like to see.
diego vs fitch
winner vs parisyan koscheck vs gsp
winner vs winner
winner gets title shot
seeing when the serra/hughes fight is I think these match ups make sense.

I wonder how pissed Parysian would be if he lost agaisnt Fitch then loses yet another close title shot. I would feel sorry for him then.

Those sound like fight word Karo lol.

FITCH AND KARO?PLEASE LET THIS HAPPEN ,AFTER HE GETS HIS BELT

[quote comment="74585"]I’ll try this again what I would like to see.
diego vs fitch
winner vs parisyan koscheck vs gsp
winner vs winner
winner gets title shot
seeing when the serra/hughes fight is I think these match ups make sense.[/quote]
Nathan, I wish Joe Silva thought like you do.
Diego beat Karo and is coming off the loss to Karo so I would switch Karo and Diego. GSP lost in a title defense, so he should be the #1 contender. Hughes should be on the outside, not GSP, but since the Serra/Hughes fight has already been made, your logic makes sense. I would do it this way:

Karo vs fitch
winner vs Diego koscheck vs gsp
winner vs winner
winner gets title shot

Karo must have one of the best chins in that division. Serra hit him with some solid punches all through their fight and he only went down the once and got up straight away. He can definately take punches that Hughes or GSP aren’t able to. His boxing skills in that Burkman fight were excellent I think he could have taken on Hughes or GSP that night and probably beaten them, especially if they wanted to stand and trade.

Ade I believe the only way Karo could beat Hughes or Gsp is to cash in on his punchers chance, he looked great against Burkman but Burkman isn’t anywhere near Hughes and Gsps level. Both those guys could handle Karo and I think they would have tired him out worse than diego did. I agree with SaVaGe and think Gsp is definitely the number one contender and Hughes and Gsp should fight for number one contendership. Letting Gsp fight Kosheck is bs, I like your order of things in a perfect world this is what I would like to see.
Karo vs fitch
winner vs Diego Hughes vs gsp
winner vs koscheck winner gets titles shot
winner gets title shot

Order of fighters deserving of a title shot
1. Georges St.Pierre
2. Matt Hughes
3. Josh Koscheck
4. Diego Sanchez
5. Karo Parisyan
6. Jon Fitch

Karo is your what a title shot beat the guys ahead of you, its that simple, you have to earn it. I dont believe Hughes deserves a title shot, gsp is closer in my opinion and I think Hughes and Gsp should fight for it, its only fair.

Man I f**ked that one up, I meant- Karo if you want a title shot beat the guys ahead of you.

Karo is a great fighter, but when it comes to winning the big one, he chokes and losses. He had to fight GSP couple years back, and he got outgrappled. He got outlasted by Sanchez. Basically I think Karo is to way over-rated. When it comes to fighting the top level guys he loses, thus falling off the title ship ladder. I don’t think he can beat fitch. Fitch will win by decision.

id like to see fitch gain 20 lb and have an re match w gouveia,who beat fitch last time…then again wilson gouveia already lost to rory [im still in the closet ]singer…i bet forest use to sleep in his living room i bet…….forrest is cornholio lol haha

[quote comment="76565"]Karo is a great fighter, but when it comes to winning the big one, he chokes and losses. He had to fight GSP couple years back, and he got outgrappled. He got outlasted by Sanchez. Basically I think Karo is to way over-rated. When it comes to fighting the top level guys he loses, thus falling off the title ship ladder. I don’t think he can beat fitch. Fitch will win by decision.[/quote]
i agree but gsp is also an panzie twice hes had a chance it is now diego or karos turn

MANNNNNNNN WHAT THE FUCK YOU ALL TAKING ABOUT. HAVE YOU GUYS ACTUALLY SEEN KARO’S WHOLE FIGHTS? WHO GIVES A FUCK THAT HE MR. DECESION HE PUTS ON A SHOW AND THAT’S WHAT PEOPLE PAY TO WATCH NOT JUST ONE PUNCH. LETS NOT FORGET HIS 24YEARS OLD HE IS THE BEST WELTERWEIGHT FIGHTER IN A WHOLE MMA. HE KILLED DIEGO IN 2OUT OF 3 ROUNDS PERSONALLY I THOUGHT KARO HAD WON THAT FIGHT. GSP HAS GOTTEN KO BY SERRA, DEIGO LOST TO KOSHEAK IN THE MOST BORING ASS WAY,AND MATT HUGES BARELY HAD BIT CHRIS LYTLE. OUT ALL THE FIGHTS THAT KARO HAD, FIRST OF ALL HE NEVER GOT KNOCKED OUT LIKE THE OTHER FIGHTERS AND HE DID FINISH TWO FIGHTS. ONE WAS NICK THOMPSON AND THE OTHER ONE WAS DAVE STASSER. HE DESERVES THAT TITLE SHOT PERIOD. KARO MENTIONED “IF I COME IN SHPE I DONT CARE WHO IT IS THEIR IN TROBLEM”

i think that karo should have to fight fitch to ever get a title shot! why give karo a fight with someone who’s never fought in the octagon? personally i think karo’s an asshole who’s a lengend in his own mind. of course if he gets a title shot and the champion is gsp i think karo will get his bell rung,and learn some hard lessons. i still think he should have to get through fitch first though! he doesn’t deserve a title at this point! i’d also like to see a fight bettween karo and nick diaz, agrudge match sorta speak,for the shit he tried to cause nate diaz on tuf. karo,i’d like to tell you exactly what i think of you but unfortunately i already tried and the censors,(that’s right,don’t call yourselves moderators) deleted it. i guess it was too raw. i don’t care just as long as you get your face beat in by someone i’ll be happy!you beat fitch than i’ll say you deserve a title shot,i just don’t think you’re up for the challenge!

[quote comment="74592"]I wonder how pissed Parysian would be if he lost agaisnt Fitch then loses yet another close title shot. I would feel sorry for him then.[/quote]
I’M CRYING ALREADY!