I told you I saw it in his eyes. All of you were talking crap when I said that, talking about you can’t see inside of a man. I told you I did and I saw a champion in Rampages eyes. That just makes my day.

[quote post=”2330″]I told you I saw it in his eyes. All of you were talking crap when I said that, talking about you can’t see inside of a man. I told you I did and I saw a champion in Rampages eyes. That just makes my day. [/quote]

Good call Can a Comp 101010, I remember you making that statement, because when I read it, I totally agreed that with you. The look in Chuck’s eyes just wasn’t the same. Rampage was completely in his head. There was no way in hell Chuck was walking out of that fight with the UFC light heavy weight belt.

F$#*ing sweet This guy is like a real life Micky Goldmill from Rocky, And I totaly saw It in Chucks eyes he was scared. Rampage is the s h i t!!!

Chuck needs to get more arsenal besides his right overhand and left hooks to the body. He needs to use more leg kicks, work on taking a guy down, GnP or at least use knees to body or head. His old back pedaling style, with one punch trading, not going to work against monsters like Shogun, Silva or Rampage. Whatever was in his eyes got nothing to do with his lose, every fighter needs to adjust his style for a different oppenent, whatever worked for Tito did not work for Rampage.

I think this guy’s nuts, would he mention this if chuck knocked Rampage out? The guy seems a little too eccentric for me, Rampage should take all the credit, this guy is a goof.

Yea that’s really nice to say about belfort, I’m sure the guy loves to hear shit like that since the Kidnapping and Murder of his sister. I hope he comes back someday, he was a savage.

ok i see what mtu and tommy are saying now…i just wrote a big speal and its not showing up

Juanito just breaks it down from his point of view..I really knew Page was going to do it again afte I saw UFC all access QRJ..that’s the first time I heard of and I saw Juanito’s training methods, point of view,etc.. Juanito is a pot of gold as a trainer/manager..Page was the one who knocked out Chuck..but Juanito’s the one who showed Page how to do it.

I did mention that Chucks eyes at the weigh in showed intimidation and that “relaxed” look on his face coming to the cage was the look of a man who was trying his best to not be psych’ed out.

I like what Juanito said about Vitor too because that is so true. Vitor’s training reflects the fact that his heart is no longer into MMA. The thing about Vitor though is that he is still young enough to turn his career around, however you can’t teach heart in a gym… You either have it or you dont.

You could see the difference in stare, but to assume Chuck was intimidated seems unlikely. The Belfort situation bothers me alot. That guy had so much talent. One of my faves from early in his career. Just as Mir as wish he would snap out of it.

[quote comment=”73457″]You could see the difference in stare, but to assume Chuck was intimidated seems unlikely. [/quote]

Well believe it, I didn’t say “there was a difference in stares”, told you he was intimidated. Dont think for me Stafo.

haha, i guess so…im just a dumb white dude..if i saw that chuck looked a little suspect at the weigh ins, i would think it was becuase he was hungry or thirsty and would have rather had a protein bar than put his dukes up and look hard and wait for 100 cameras to go off….but thats just me.

Stafo…i agree with you, but i dont always like the Mir Belfort comparison….Mirs leg was shattered, he was thrown off a motorcycle going god knows how fast, and landed god knows where (actually i think i heard he landed on or underneath another car)..his hurtles are more physical…
Belforts hurtles are more mental,Ibarra is saying money, but like mrskorpion said, his sister might be a huge factor into why he has a mental issue…

[quote comment=”73468″]haha, i guess so…im just a dumb white dude..if i saw that chuck looked a little suspect at the weigh ins, i would think it was becuase he was hungry or thirsty and would have rather had a protein bar than put his dukes up and look hard and wait for 100 cameras to go off….but thats just me. [/quote]

You can never give me credit can you. You always have to “think” your right. Always have to get the last word in. This is why UFCmania got onto us last week. You always gotta start. I could start a yelling feud again but why, it will only get deleted by UFCmania.

if john hackelman said it, than i would agree with you, but it was Rampages trainer…by the way, no one “wins” arguements, you either agree or disagree….and we disagree, its that simple dude

Can a comp…

You are the bomb - you have been right every time I have read your posts - nice work. Where do you live?

Umm, I beleive I did say it and post it, and had half this board jump my shit saying it wasnt a staring contest.

From the Chuck Guarentees KO thread:
“Liddell looked like shit at the weigh-ins and walked away from the stare down before being seperated by Dana. His confidence is lacking.”

I also picked HA, from the 71 weighin thread:
“Did Houston Alexander look frigging huge at the weighins or what? When they said 204, I figured the scale was broken or he knows some Chris Angel trick of levitation. If I still wagered, I’d drop $50 on him. The UFC gave him a 3 fight contract. They had to see something….”

[quote comment=”73480″]if john hackelman said it, than i would agree with you, but it was Rampages trainer…[/quote]

Like Chucks trainer is going to admit it. John threw in the towel for chuck the first time, I guess he was smart enough to do that.

Dude, Hackelman is not very respected in the MMA community. Numerous fighters he’s trained have come out afterward and torn into him. Some have claimed they had to spent 1-2 years with other trainers having their standup fixed. He was a decent pro boxer, I guess, around 8-6 if I remember.

All this those who can do, those who cant teach, one word: Mickey. Ya feel me! He trained Rocky to kick Apollo’s ass in the rematch! :p

This guy seems to have some kind of beef with Tito, every interview I read with him in it he always has to comment about Tito in some kind negative way.

haha mtu..now we are resorting to movies…well who trained Rocky when he needed “the eye of a tiger”…Apollo..another fighter….and I said that about Hackelman becuase he has been with Chuck forever, and has seen him before all of his fights… i just think the fight isnt won at the staredown the night before…some guys get intimidated during the fight, like Swick vs. Okami, after knowing what the other man is capable of against you, then the fight is over, but i have a hard time believing someone is training there ass off for a fight for months, they have to go into the fight, knowing how to execute there gameplan, and then the night before they see the other guy in their underoos and start pissing down their leg and questioning their ability….
and going back to the Swick fight, even after he was intimidated, he still rocked Okami, and had a chance to come back and win…which goes to show, anyone can just get caught

All I know is that I need to work the word “pierceness” into my vocabulary more.

Stafo,

In my experience, guys with ego are the ones that have a reason to be egotistical

The way to defeat a beast like Rampage u got to be a beast like Silva. Liddell strategy was all wrong, he did not even wanted to exchange with Rampage, he was backing away while trying to pick his shots. If Liddell goes with the same strategy agaisnt Silva, he will get Silva’s knee prints stamped on his face !!! Liddell should snap out and be a beast.

I hear ya Dude. I do, but sometimes I think REALLY failed players in a sport are better than guys who have had success when it comes to coaching. Baseball is the perfect example. The league is filled with lotsa great managers who were never star players. Basketball also.
Juanito has had a lot of success in his career. I’ve seen that hat of his all over the world in boxing and MMA. Heck, I just saw him on an old Pride DVD with a couple of Brazilians. The only successful product of Hackleman’s I can think of is Chuck. That guy Texiera(?) who beat Soko is the only other fighter I can even think of when it comes to JH.

Who else has he trained, anyone know?

Remember when he said “The Lord gave me the plan”? This guy is a nutcase. Besides, Chuck’s eyes had nothing to do with the fight…until Rampage closed them that is. Chuck doesn’t match up with Rampage well and Chuck fought Rampage’s fight, short as it was.
Notice how long the fight goes before Rampage even throws a punch. I posted before that Rampage threw 8 punches total and 1 elbow. Chuck went down on the fourth punch. Chuck is a counter-puncher and Rampage forced Chuck to throw first. Rampage even played to the crowd, acting like Chuck would not engage.

Can a comp…

You are tearing him up

Can a computer….tear up MoreThanUFC more than “can a comp..” - doubtful, don’t know if ever seen anyone do that…till now

You guys think Vitor will be back? I would really like to see him fight again.

[quote comment=”73537″]Remember when he said “The Lord gave me the plan”? This guy is a nutcase. Besides, Chuck’s eyes had nothing to do with the fight…until Rampage closed them that is. Chuck doesn’t match up with Rampage well and Chuck fought Rampage’s fight, short as it was.
Notice how long the fight goes before Rampage even throws a punch. I posted before that Rampage threw 8 punches total and 1 elbow. Chuck went down on the fourth punch. Chuck is a counter-puncher and Rampage forced Chuck to throw first. Rampage even played to the crowd, acting like Chuck would not engage.[/quote]
Well said, I agree this guy is nuts.

[quote comment=”73528″]The way to defeat a beast like Rampage u got to be a beast like Silva. Liddell strategy was all wrong, he did not even wanted to exchange with Rampage, he was backing away while trying to pick his shots. If Liddell goes with the same strategy agaisnt Silva, he will get Silva’s knee prints stamped on his face !!! Liddell should snap out and be a beast.[/quote]

This is soooo very true. Listen up you chuck liddell fans.

Rampage did very well considering he had this half baked lunatic in his corner.

[quote comment=”73516″]some guys get intimidated during the fight, like Swick vs. Okami, after knowing what the other man is capable of against you, then the fight is over, [/quote]

This is true too. I am saying there is always a turning point when someone is like “oh sh1t”. Good example of not being able to see that, AA vs. Tim silvia 2. AA was going to pounce on him the out of nowhere BOOM, no chance for reaction because he was out.

That being said, you can tell intimidation if it is presented BEFORE the fight also.

[quote comment=”73555″]You guys think Vitor will be back? I would really like to see him fight again.[/quote]
He cant be. He fought at Cage Rage when he was under NSAC suspension for a steriod test. He cant fight in either the US or for Pride. Cage Rage thought it was a good way to thumb its nose at the UFC. But with their current alliance with K-1, bodog, etc. it’s come back to bite their partners in the ass. Some of the K-1 troubles over the course of the last week no doubt came from this.

completely agree savage….if i claimed i could read people, i would say it happend right here…chuck getting all the publicity, knowing more and more fans are watching ESPNs Baddest man on the planet, and in the first minute no punch was thrown…so chuck made a mistake and got off his gameplan for the sake of entertainment and saving the business from Boxing people saying mma is just as boring…it was rampages gameplan to not pull a Babalu, and chcuks gameplan, like always was to counter, and look for the big right, but there was nothing to counter….anyways that might have been the case

Allz is I know is your all rediculous there is no way you could have seen the fear in his eyes, if you notice, the lights were cleary more than 100w, which would have made the photon emittence tremendous, everybody knows in these conditions the dupile dialates very minimaly, allowing virtually no fear to emit from the retina, at least not noticeably.
And if his eyes were dry he would be blinking at a slightly more than usual frequency, cutting off the fear from really escaping the cornea zone. Unless of course there was an overflow of fear in which case we would have seen a “fear clog”, and everybody would have noticed that.

Ah thanks morethanufc for the reply, hey i tried sending u this link over the contact us but it didint let me:

http://www.cagerage.tv/images/posters/crc22/CRC22-legeno-dean.jpg

i know this is totally unrelated but it could be for a good topic discussion

[quote comment=”73594″]Ah thanks morethanufc for the reply, hey i tried sending u this link over the contact us but it didint let me:

http://www.cagerage.tv/images/posters/crc22/CRC22-legeno-dean.jpg

i know this is totally unrelated but it could be for a good topic discussion :)[/quote]

Was that THE Herb Dean? And Butterbean hasn’t had a massive heart attack yet?

That’s coming up.

[quote post=”2330″]I told you I saw it in his eyes. All of you were talking crap when I said that, talking about you can’t see inside of a man. I told you I did and I saw a champion in Rampages eyes. That just makes my day[/quote]

mine too… me and comp10×10x10 talk about this shit all the time.. we never said that we could tell who was going to win the fight..i was just saying that reading your opponent is very important in fighting and looking hard does not quite explain the look that i was referring to…what i mean is that it is not solely face expressions that the define the look of a champion it is past that and apparently some people notice it period..

Chuck did not look ready, plain and simple. He did not have the same look in his eyes that he wore into his last 7 fights. It appeared to me that he was avoiding eye contact with Rampage before the fight (in the octagon). There was absolutely no confidence (something I had grown accustomed to with Lidell) and therefore the fight was short. Nuff said.Mabye, just mabye, Lidell is done (he is 37, and not a physical specimen ala Randy Couture). Thinking about athletes, and their prime years; mabye it’s time for the Iceman to “hang em up”…to leave the sport with the respect of fans and fellow fighters. Just a thought.

[quote comment=”73537″]Remember when he said “The Lord gave me the plan”? This guy is a nutcase. Besides, Chuck’s eyes had nothing to do with the fight…until Rampage closed them that is. Chuck doesn’t match up with Rampage well and Chuck fought Rampage’s fight, short as it was.
Notice how long the fight goes before Rampage even throws a punch. I posted before that Rampage threw 8 punches total and 1 elbow. Chuck went down on the fourth punch. Chuck is a counter-puncher and Rampage forced Chuck to throw first. Rampage even played to the crowd, acting like Chuck would not engage.[/quote]

I like how you pointed out the fact that Rampage played to the crowd/judges by saying to Chuck “what the hell” and putting up his hands to show that Chuck didn’t want to engage.. I told people that Rampage would make Chuck fight his fight from the beginning because Rampage wasn’t stupid enough to chase Chuck all night and leave himself open.

Would love to see Belfort back in the mix, but he would need a couple more wins elsewhere to build his confidence back up to compete. Not to mention his personal issues that can be sugar coated by Juanito above. Vitor is a good guy overall and left UFC on good terms, if plausible Dana would bring him back.

I don’t care if all of you try to blast me but… I said at the weigh-in he looked bad. I even phoned a friend and told him if I was less of a man I’d pull out the bet. MTU did say that in fact but that is a problem with me. How do you go from calling him Nyquil, Party Man X and everything then say he was in great shape? I believe and know he was nervous, it did show in his actions. I mean he crossed the stage to put on his pants before the staredown at the weigh in, so he knew as well. I don’t believe it was a fear of Rampage as much of a knowledge of his lack of training. Let me help you guys that have been saying you can’t train to keep from being KO’ed in 2. Silly. What do you think supports your head? The neck it sits on. What supports your neck? So on and so forth. Fighters for years have been doing neck workouts. You ever seen someone hold a grip in their mouth and lift weights using the neck? It’s to strengthen your 1st your jaw muscles and 2nd your neck to better keep from your head snapping back on impact and hopefully protect the jaw. Thats why its usually a little harder to KO some thick necked strong jawed moose. His (Chucks) mind was obviously off as well, otherwise why would you throw a punch you’ve known for years not to throw? Randy whipped him just as bad in that first fight and he didn’t come into the cage scared the second fight, just ready. Rampage is a beast for sure and a perfect champ for now. Chuck don’t deserve it now anyway. I just think there is more here then meets the eye. He can say whatever but I have friends in LV that work clubs and say he gets down. So anyway my first question with Chuck is is he hungry enough to finish making himself a legend in this sport or is he satified with where he is at? Either way he deserves to have what he wants, he’s fought hard for it. And for Chuck haters, WHY? Chuck has provided Rampage with Both of his biggest wins.

ufc mania i know i posted more on this page man …you erasin post like that aint right…man im just expressing my opinion and you know that we are all guys in here so no one should get sensitive..man what gives..

[quote comment=”73421″][quote post=”2330″]I told you I saw it in his eyes. All of you were talking crap when I said that, talking about you can’t see inside of a man. I told you I did and I saw a champion in Rampages eyes. That just makes my day. [/quote]

Good call Can a Comp 101010, I remember you making that statement, because when I read it, I totally agreed that with you. The look in Chuck’s eyes just wasn’t the same. Rampage was completely in his head. There was no way in hell Chuck was walking out of that fight with the UFC light heavy weight belt.[/quote]

It was so obvious chuck was scared

i write my post just like i would say them man..hey lets talk mma but I agree.. but that comment was directed at mma dude and everyone else named mma..so what i want to express the way i want to express it..its not fair for you to decide how i should have written my post…come on man gimme break..

[quote comment=”73462″][quote comment=”73457″]You could see the difference in stare, but to assume Chuck was intimidated seems unlikely. [/quote]

Well believe it, I didn’t say “there was a difference in stares”, told you he was intimidated. Dont think for me Stafo.[/quote]
He just saying he could see the difference. He wasn’t thinking for you man just not agreeing with you.

When Tommy defends me, will ya’ll just stop. I’m seriously getting tired of this BS. Tommy and I dont get along, but I still click his posts every time I see them, because I at least respect his opinion, as he respects mine. This shit is getting off the chain lately.

And Stafo, read above for my post on Vitor. HE CANT AND NEVER WILL FIGHT IN THE US OR JAPAN EVER AGAIN.

I erased/edited more than 15 posts on this thread alone.

Some people don’t get it — and I’m not naming names — if you say dumb shit or get personal with other readers — I will do something to your post.

So everyone should save some time and just not take it to that level — regardless of the lame Web beef that some people have with one another.

I can make the comments on this site sound like the god damn Partridge Family if I want … but I don’t.

There’s nothing wrong with disagreeing, but do it in a way that shows some RESPECT.

I let the Soku thread get out of hand the other day because I don’t have time all the time to babysit. I do try and run and update a Web site.

Let’s just do everyone here a favor and keep it MMA (or at least positive).

Man … I sound like a goddamn broken record — that’s the third time I’ve gad to make this speech in like two weeks.

I already have two kids … I don’t need any more — not here, anyway.

It comes with the territory a little though man. It must be expected and will never really stop. You could edit all the posts but who would leave any after that, what would be the point? I do kinda agree with we are all men here (with a few lovely exceptions of course) so while I try to respect everyone I can’t expect everyone to respect me and not call me a dumb whatever.

I don’t know what everyone is talking about but all I saw in the ring was Rampage giving Chuck some weird ass silly look with a tilted head and Chuck was trying not to laugh so he had a pretty happy looking face on, kind of smiling holding back a laugh. I don’t think that translates into being in Chucks mind.

forgive my ignorance I meant cage not ring

[quote comment=”73704″][quote comment=”73462″][quote comment=”73457″]You could see the difference in stare, but to assume Chuck was intimidated seems unlikely. [/quote]

Well believe it, I didn’t say “there was a difference in stares”, told you he was intimidated. Dont think for me Stafo.[/quote]
He just saying he could see the difference. He wasn’t thinking for you man just not agreeing with you.[/quote]
Exactly….

[quote comment=”73732″]When Tommy defends me, will ya’ll just stop. I’m seriously getting tired of this BS. Tommy and I dont get along, but I still click his posts every time I see them, because I at least respect his opinion, as he respects mine. This shit is getting off the chain lately.

And Stafo, read above for my post on Vitor. HE CANT AND NEVER WILL FIGHT IN THE US OR JAPAN EVER AGAIN.[/quote]

Alright got ya MTU…..my bad

listen i aint tryin to piss you off ufcmania…shit i love this site for reall…the only thing im saying is that some people get affended quick and some dont…Im the type that doesnt so because of that I have found that people prove there point with much more passion if they are a bit angry is all..

Name calling is obviously not accepted and i have apologized for that..I just want to express my opinions the way I want..I understand your point… do you understand mine???

‘All I know is that I need to work the word “pierceness” into my vocabulary more.”

So true.

Damn I wish Vitor had more heart! Maybe it really did break his heart when his sister was kidknapped. We all remember when he was unstoppable right? He needs the eye of the tiger. Or maybe a couple of tiger eyes, although poaching is still wrong.

[quote comment=”73847″]listen i aint tryin to piss you off ufcmania…shit i love this site for reall…the only thing im saying is that some people get affended quick and some dont…Im the type that doesnt so because of that I have found that people prove there point with much more passion if they are a bit angry is all..

Name calling is obviously not accepted and i have apologized for that..I just want to express my opinions the way I want..I understand your point… do you understand mine???[/quote]
His pet calls people names all the time and don’t get nothing said or deleted. It started a private thing, maybe it should be members that agree only.

[quote post=”2330″]His pet calls people names all the time and don’t get nothing said or deleted. It started a private thing, maybe it should be members that agree only.[/quote]
What?

[quote comment=”73865″][quote comment=”73847″]listen i aint tryin to piss you off ufcmania…shit i love this site for reall…the only thing im saying is that some people get affended quick and some dont…Im the type that doesnt so because of that I have found that people prove there point with much more passion if they are a bit angry is all..

Name calling is obviously not accepted and i have apologized for that..I just want to express my opinions the way I want..I understand your point… do you understand mine???[/quote]
His pet calls people names all the time and don’t get nothing said or deleted. It started a private thing, maybe it should be members that agree only.[/quote]

This whole Favorites thing has gone to hell. I think Mania has done well with comment edits. I have had a few that have been deleted. I just t think that there are allot of people coming in here acting like they know everything, and talking crap to long time commenter’s. There are allot of great commenter’s on here that have been here a while, and seem to keep things from turning into a battle of the name calling. This is MMA talk, not who has the best name calling talk.

Later
Chris Valentine

[quote comment=”73867″][quote post=”2330″]His pet calls people names all the time and don’t get nothing said or deleted. It started a private thing, maybe it should be members that agree only.[/quote]
What?[/quote]
I swear i used to hear this sh1t back in elementary school. i think its the warm weather that makes everyone bitter. people were so much happier in winter i swear

I love Vitor & also wish that he could snap back into it & believe in himself. I would like to see him finish the Phenom story like we all thought it was going to finish… Vitor beating Chuck, Tito, & Rampage and reclaiming the belt for at least a few defenses (3 ).

3

Apparently the “plus” sign doesn’t show up in the comments.

What I meant to say is that I hope that if he could get it together it would be satisfying to see at least 3 or more title defenses after winning the belt.

I’m probably living in fantasy land but I can always keep my fingers crossed…

I think that the main issue he had w/ vitor was the money thing..I too was a big fan of vitor…but..if I was in Ibarras shoes I too would have called it quits becuase him and his mother were deceitful and you just dont do that to someone who has put in a lot of effort on you like I imagine Ibarra did..

[quote comment=”73930″]Can a comp. calculate 10×10x10×10…?

Hey why does your link go to Bank of America????

LOL

Chris Valentine[/quote]

I am a technical analyst for bank ofa america. Just trying to represent.

[quote post=”2330″]Damn I wish Vitor had more heart! Maybe it really did break his heart when his sister was kidknapped. We all remember when he was unstoppable right? He needs the eye of the tiger. Or maybe a couple of tiger eyes, although poaching is still wrong. [/quote]

man i feel the exact same way…there was a time that i couldn’t imagine anyone beating him…how does someone get like that after being unstoppable..man shit like that just makes me sad…on a brighter note I for some reason shogun reminds me of a new and improved vitor..he’s young, brazilian, and hopefully unstoppable..we will just have to see..

[quote comment=”74057″][quote post=”2330″]Damn I wish Vitor had more heart! Maybe it really did break his heart when his sister was kidknapped. We all remember when he was unstoppable right? He needs the eye of the tiger. Or maybe a couple of tiger eyes, although poaching is still wrong. [/quote]

man i feel the exact same way…there was a time that i couldn’t imagine anyone beating him…how does someone get like that after being unstoppable..man shit like that just makes me sad…on a brighter note I for some reason shogun reminds me of a new and improved vitor..he’s young, brazilian, and hopefully unstoppable..we will just have to see..[/quote]

I’ve seen Vitor’s last fight. Vitor still hasn’t used his fists like he used too! I wonder if he will ever be able to strike like he used too? His latest win was GnP and it was nothing to spectacular.
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/vitor/video/x1stdd_ivan-serati-vs-vitor-belfort

I hope Vitor Belfort get’s the soul and heart back to provide punishment on hos opponents like he used too. it kind of sucks that i have to speak of Vitor like he’s not fighting anymore. But that seems to be the case.
~Salute~

ICE MAN LIDDEL WILL BE BACK & WILL KICK RAMPAGES ARSE

Vitor was dominant vs lower quality competition but against the good fighters like Randy & Tito he was exposed. His win over Silva was before Silva became a real beast in the ring. I’d like to see him come back but I don’t think he will ever be a UFC champion again.

[quote post=”2330″]Vitor was dominant vs lower quality competition but against the good fighters like Randy & Tito he was exposed. His win over Silva was before Silva became a real beast in the ring. I’d like to see him come back but I don’t think he will ever be a UFC champion again. [/quote]

realisticly speaking I know he will never be champ..but i think that when he fought the higher quality guys he was already a non focused fighter..man he had talent but it seems like he never exceeded his style to another level because of his lack of effort..life is what you make it and like ive said before talent isn’t everything it needs to be back up by hard training for it to mean something..

[quote post=”2330″]Vitor was dominant vs lower quality competition but against the good fighters like Randy & Tito he was exposed. His win over Silva was before Silva became a real beast in the ring. I’d like to see him come back but I don’t think he will ever be a UFC champion again.
realisticly speaking I know he will never be champ..but i think that when he fought the higher quality guys he was already a non focused fighter..man he had talent but it seems like he never exceeded his style to another level because of his lack of effort..life is what you make it and like ive said before talent isn’t everything it needs to be back up by hard training for it to mean something.. [/quote]

with that said of course he lost because the higher quality guys like couture and liddell were and are very hard workers when it comes to training i think..

Guys, I FEEL this guy, the lord came to me in a vision and told me rampage would win, he said chuck wasn’t saying his prayers enough and has turned his back on the lord. It was all his managers doing the lord said as he’s being praying daily and I KNEW Rampage would win. I asked the Lord why he cared about something like this and he just disappeared, go figure.

[quote post=”2330″]Guys, I FEEL this guy, the lord came to me in a vision and told me rampage would win, he said chuck wasn’t saying his prayers enough and has turned his back on the lord. It was all his managers doing the lord said as he’s being praying daily and I KNEW Rampage would win. I asked the Lord why he cared about something like this and he just disappeared, go figure. [/quote]

You had that vision too…cool I thought i was the only one…

[quote post=”2330″]Guys, I FEEL this guy, the lord came to me in a vision and told me rampage would win, he said chuck wasn’t saying his prayers enough and has turned his back on the lord. It was all his managers doing the lord said as he’s being praying daily and I KNEW Rampage would win. I asked the Lord why he cared about something like this and he just disappeared, go figure.
You had that vision too…cool I thought i was the only one… [/quote]

Oh yeah and don’t put words in my mouth. I in fact said the opposite about you.

[quote post=”2330″]Oh yeah and don’t put words in my mouth. I in fact said the opposite about you. [/quote]

Keep it MMA and you dont m