HA! Must have been booked before he got KTFO! I heard he’s gonna remain the posterboy despite the loss, not sure where I read that.

Is Letterman filmed in Texas?
How many times do you think Dana’s gonna call him before he goes on?
Is Rampage on Leno the same nite?
I’ll stop now…

..Hopefully he’ll not be on NYquil for this one..

true champion if you ask me…gets KOed in the first round and loses his belt, and still has the balls to go on national tv and face people, hes not crawling into a hole and waiting for people to forget…thats why i like chuck so much, he knows this is a sport where everyone is gonna lose, and for him to show this to people watching letterman who arent mma fans, is good for the sport imo

..Being real Chuck is and was the face of the UFC when it broke on to ESPN..that in itself is legendary.

[quote comment="72133"]HA! Must have been booked before he got KTFO! I heard he’s gonna remain the posterboy despite the loss, not sure where I read that.[/quote]

Yeah, they book months in advance. The UFC was pretty much determined to believe Liddell would get past Rampage. Whoops.

[quote comment="72163"]..Being real Chuck is and was the face of the UFC when it broke on to ESPN..that in itself is legendary.[/quote]
Not really…Tito was on The Tonight Show like 3 or 4 years ago.

[quote comment="72177"][quote comment="72163"]..Being real Chuck is and was the face of the UFC when it broke on to ESPN..that in itself is legendary.[/quote]
Not really…Tito was on The Tonight Show like 3 or 4 years ago.[/quote]

..I’m talking about the mainstream coverage of UFC on ESPN..like UFC 71 weigh-ins broadcasted ESPEN NEWS..that never took place 3 or 4 years ago.

Chuck is bigtime now son…
Word is he is gonna be the next Punisher…

It will be a good chance to get another look at Chuck since he lost. I for one want to see him and see where his head is at. He will need to give up the party life if he wants to beat W Silva and I’m not 100% he is willing to do that.

[quote comment="72135"]Is Letterman filmed in Texas?
How many times do you think Dana’s gonna call him before he goes on?
Is Rampage on Leno the same nite?
I’ll stop now…[/quote]

Dana will call 135 times at least….

[quote comment="72201"]It will be a good chance to get another look at Chuck since he lost. I for one want to see him and see where his head is at. He will need to give up the party life if he wants to beat W Silva and I’m not 100% he is willing to do that.[/quote]

..he is not giving up that life..I saw those pics in Vegas, you see it his face..he is loving it..I want to see how his face looks like after Wand lights him up..

Wouldn’t it be funny if Letterman started playing clips of Chuck when he fell a sleep in Dallas on tv and making jokes about it? That would be hilarious to see how Chuck would handle it. Anyway I dunno about this fight. Would like to see Chuck win, but Silva is a maniac and I think he hates Chuck since hes called him out so many times. I jsut don’t want to see a 2 min fight, I want to see war!

Will
Jun 4th, 2007 at 9:41 am Quote this comment
HA! Must have been booked before he got KTFO! I heard he’s gonna remain the posterboy despite the loss, not sure where I read that.

Yeah, they book months in advance. The UFC was pretty much determined to believe Liddell would get past Rampage. Whoops.

Actually Will your wrong. These shows only book 2 weeks in advace because of popularity turn over. They always leave open slots every week to fill in with people who “hit it big” because they know at any time they can quickly fill those spots with celebrity friends or people who need to stomp for a movie. So check your facts homeboy it looks like the UFC is still pushing Chuck as the face of the company.

Oh an go ahead and try to tell me im wrong…my wife is an intern for NBC…Booyah!

[quote comment="72208"][quote comment="72201"]It will be a good chance to get another look at Chuck since he lost. I for one want to see him and see where his head is at. He will need to give up the party life if he wants to beat W Silva and I’m not 100% he is willing to do that.[/quote]

..he is not giving up that life..I saw those pics in Vegas, you see it his face..he is loving it..I want to see how his face looks like after Wand lights him up..[/quote]
If he don’t I can’t see him winning. His body wasn’t a fighters in his last and if he don’t go to work he will fall again. You could see where the body remembered training and fighting but was living clubbing and partying. Silva’s too tough to take lightly.

[quote comment="72146"]..Hopefully he’ll not be on NYquil for this one..[/quote]
and the sleeping pills………zzzzzzz

He admits he likes to party like a rockstar….We all know they just drink their energy drink Rockstar to stay up all night.

[quote comment="72154"]true champion if you ask me…gets KOed in the first round and loses his belt, and still has the balls to go on national tv and face people, hes not crawling into a hole and waiting for people to forget…thats why i like chuck so much, he knows this is a sport where everyone is gonna lose, and for him to show this to people watching letterman who arent mma fans, is good for the sport imo[/quote]

AMEN Chuck is a champ forever! He’ll be back he just has to change his routine and then he’ll have that belt around his waist again!!

[quote comment="72211"]Wouldn’t it be funny if Letterman started playing clips of Chuck when he fell a sleep in Dallas on tv and making jokes about it? That would be hilarious to see how Chuck would handle it. Anyway I dunno about this fight. Would like to see Chuck win, but Silva is a maniac and I think he hates Chuck since hes called him out so many times. I jsut don’t want to see a 2 min fight, I want to see war![/quote]

Chucks chin is too suspect to see a war with Wandy. I predict Wandy in 4 minutes.

Wandy can take a Chuck Liddell punch, Chuck Liddell cannot take a wandy punch though!!!!:)

[quote comment="72269"]Wandy can take a Chuck Liddell punch, Chuck Liddell cannot take a wandy punch though!!!!:)[/quote]

Wow you must be an expert huh? I guess you know that for a fact. wow why do we even need to watch anymore fights, this guy Can a comp. calculate blah blah blah can just tell us how all the fight will turn out because he is a fu*king genius!

I love how people make comments directly after a loss. Like Chuck’s “chin is too suspect.” Correct me if I am wrong but he has 4 loses, 2 to Rampage whom hits like a brick wall, 1 to Couture which he just got beat straight up by a master of the sport of mma, and then to Jeremy Horn in his 3rd professional fight and that one he got caught in a triangle. Now his chin is suspect? Exuse me for calling bullshit. I am not overally a Chuck fan but I do think he is a damn good fighter just Rampage has his number and just might be a better fighter.

Chuck was champion for almost 2 full years, they are not just going to throw someone like that to the side. They are still going to make sure he gets plenty of face time because he made a name for himself and as everyone saw at UFC 71, he is extremely well liked. Why would you push a guy like that out of the lime light? Because of one incident of NyQuill? Give me a break.

Anyone else think it would be weird to see Chuck without a mohawk?

[quote comment="72294"][quote comment="72269"]Wandy can take a Chuck Liddell punch, Chuck Liddell cannot take a wandy punch though!!!!:)[/quote]

Wow you must be an expert huh? I guess you know that for a fact. wow why do we even need to watch anymore fights, this guy Can a comp. calculate blah blah blah can just tell us how all the fight will turn out because he is a fu*king genius![/quote]
[quote comment="72308"]I love how people make comments directly after a loss. Like Chuck’s “chin is too suspect.” Correct me if I am wrong but he has 4 loses, 2 to Rampage whom hits like a brick wall, 1 to Couture which he just got beat straight up by a master of the sport of mma, and then to Jeremy Horn in his 3rd professional fight and that one he got caught in a triangle. Now his chin is suspect? Exuse me for calling bullshit. I am not overally a Chuck fan but I do think he is a damn good fighter just Rampage has his number and just might be a better fighter.

Chuck was champion for almost 2 full years, they are not just going to throw someone like that to the side. They are still going to make sure he gets plenty of face time because he made a name for himself and as everyone saw at UFC 71, he is extremely well liked. Why would you push a guy like that out of the lime light? Because of one incident of NyQuill? Give me a break.[/quote]

you have to be a moron not to question Chucks chin, who has hit him???? NOONE . You cannot sit there and tell me anyone other than rampage has stuck Chuck in the face. Someone did the other night and he went down. Thats why I am saying that. NO one has hit him and once someone did he went down. Look at the tape dude and realize. Dont bash me because your boy got stuck in the mouth and went down like a sack of patatoes. GeeZ. Wandy could take a Rampage bomb and Chuck couldn’t all I’m saying. Figure that one in your little brain.

Thats what I’m talking about UFCmania, people just can’t talk logically on your site without people talking shit.

ok brainiac Wandi has never been hit by Chuck, so you cant be sure. There are no sure things in MMA. “Wandi beat Rampage and rampage beat chuck so Wandi will beat Chuck.” It dosn’t work like that. Chuck beat down tito and Vitor and they both whipped Wandi, So anything can happen. You saying your absolutley sure about anything to do with MMA is not talking logically dude, Anything can happen !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chuck’s chin is fine, boys. Enough of the pettiness, ok?

evryones chin is suspect..chins werent meant to be hit…evryone can be KOed…if Wandy can take a Rampage punch but Chuck cant, than I assume Misaki should move up to light heavy and take the belt, becuase he can take a Hendo punch and Wandy cant…its all about head movement..and thats something that can vary with every fight

[quote comment="72351"]Chuck’s chin is fine, boys. Enough of the pettiness, ok?[/quote]

agreed

[quote comment="72197"][quote comment="72177"][quote comment="72163"]..Being real Chuck is and was the face of the UFC when it broke on to ESPN..that in itself is legendary.[/quote]
Not really…Tito was on The Tonight Show like 3 or 4 years ago.[/quote]

..I’m talking about the mainstream coverage of UFC on ESPN..like UFC 71 weigh-ins broadcasted ESPEN NEWS..that never took place 3 or 4 years ago.[/quote]

Yeah Chuck will always be remembered as a great champ, future hall of famer for damn sure

[quote post="2313"]Wouldn’t it be funny if Letterman started playing clips of Chuck when he fell a sleep in Dallas on tv and making jokes about it? That would be hilarious to see how Chuck would handle it.[/quote]
The gap in Letterman’s teeth would end up as roughly the same width as Chuck’s fist.

[quote comment="72351"]Chuck’s chin is fine, boys. Enough of the pettiness, ok?[/quote]

agreed…watch Rampage vs Chuck I…Chuck got smacked in the face all night, and hard, and never went “out” like the recent time. He got caught good, thats it. Kudos to Rampage for a nice jaw smash.

[quote comment="72347"]ok brainiac Wandi has never been hit by Chuck, so you cant be sure. There are no sure things in MMA. “Wandi beat Rampage and rampage beat chuck so Wandi will beat Chuck.” It dosn’t work like that. Chuck beat down tito and Vitor and they both whipped Wandi, So anything can happen. You saying your absolutley sure about anything to do with MMA is not talking logically dude, Anything can happen !!!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]
Well said, man in MMA its seriously like rock,paper,scissors, rock gets scissors and paper gets rock etc. Its all about styles and so forth some styles just match up badly against others. A fighter that can run a clinic on rampage might get his ass handed to him by liddel time after time. Just because A beats B and B beats C doesn’t mean C can’t beat A.

[quote comment="72475"][quote comment="72351"]Chuck’s chin is fine, boys. Enough of the pettiness, ok?[/quote]

agreed…watch Rampage vs Chuck I…Chuck got smacked in the face all night, and hard, and never went “out” like the recent time. He got caught good, thats it. Kudos to Rampage for a nice jaw smash.[/quote]
Also agreed Chuck can take some pretty good hits, not as well as Rampage but he definitely doesn’t have a glass jaw, he just got clipped real good, right on the button, like St.Pierre and it was over.

[quote comment="72351"]Chuck’s chin is fine, boys. Enough of the pettiness, ok?[/quote]
i agree
one of the few times i will cheer for chuck is this one

If Chuck gets back in shape he will have no problem taking shots. He has always been known to have a solid chin and just let himself get too far outta shape against too good of a fighter that just wanted it more.

[quote comment="72624"][quote comment="72351"]Chuck’s chin is fine, boys. Enough of the pettiness, ok?[/quote]
i agree
one of the few times i will cheer for chuck is this one[/quote]
watch the metzger fight the tell me chuck has no chin

In this sport at this level all you have to do is make 1 or 2 mistakes. You zig instead of zag or slip or bob instead of wieve it can be night over just that fast. That’s with doing everything it takes to put the cards in your favor the night of. Its also about strength and weaknesses. One mans strength can be another mans weakness so on and so forth. So different fights will equal different results. That goes back as far as combat sports. Randy could get around Tim being he was a striker (and not a good one lately) but if he was that size and was a world class wrestler it would have been different. Also there is some truth to people having a punchers chance but to believe it takes more skill to be a world class grappler then striker is silly to me. I find them both equal. People can say you don’t accidently put on an armbar which is true, but to be a world class striker is not really something anyone can go see a Gracie or whoever and learn. You find striking coaches and even then its alot different to learn how to punch duck and roll back into a punch without being ko’ed. To learn how to punch without opening yourself up. Then of course with JJ you can tap before its to bad, usually. No one can tap before that haymaker lands. Well I guess Lesners opponent tapped before he got hit again.

[quote comment="72692"]In this sport at this level all you have to do is make 1 or 2 mistakes. You zig instead of zag or slip or bob instead of wieve it can be night over just that fast. That’s with doing everything it takes to put the cards in your favor the night of. Its also about strength and weaknesses. One mans strength can be another mans weakness so on and so forth. So different fights will equal different results. That goes back as far as combat sports. Randy could get around Tim being he was a striker (and not a good one lately) but if he was that size and was a world class wrestler it would have been different. Also there is some truth to people having a punchers chance but to believe it takes more skill to be a world class grappler then striker is silly to me. I find them both equal. People can say you don’t accidently put on an armbar which is true, but to be a world class striker is not really something anyone can go see a Gracie or whoever and learn. You find striking coaches and even then its alot different to learn how to punch duck and roll back into a punch without being ko’ed. To learn how to punch without opening yourself up. Then of course with JJ you can tap before its to bad, usually. No one can tap before that haymaker lands. Well I guess Lesners opponent tapped before he got hit again.[/quote]

Nobody is degrading striking man. Just saying if you had to choose one, with all the upsets, obviosly they have all been striking. If you HAD to pick which one, one has an aspect of luck, (stiking) grappling has none whatsoever, and that is an absolute. Still not saying striking is easier to learn or train, just that there are no upset submissions.

OH and Chuck going on national television is pretty bomb for just being smashed like that. Respect. Most former champs would go hide for a year or until they won again.

[quote comment="72135"]Is Letterman filmed in Texas?
How many times do you think Dana’s gonna call him before he goes on?
Is Rampage on Leno the same nite?
I’ll stop now…[/quote]
this may get posted twice but i agree that rampage should be on leno and on letterman instead of liddell. could you imagine what a p.r. hit he would be with his humor! he deserves the limelight now.

Yeah this dosnt seem very smart by dana and them. Im suprised of Dana on this one. They should be promoting the Champ, not X champ that everyone already knows anyways.

Diaz catching Gomi wasn’t an upset sub? strikers feel grappling is tricky fighting that they just want to learn enough to defend. Personally I also find chokes a lucky thing. Now I think ground fighting is awesome so don’t think I’m one of those people I just respect it all. Plus I never thought of you or this post when I had this thought.

People say Rampage should be on the shows but what does everyone keep asking Rampage. So you beat Chuck? You knocked out Chuck? Whats it like to beat Chuck? Oh you beat Chuck in 03 too? Who are you fighting next, Chuck? When are you fighting Chuck again? What’s Chuck been up to? (I’m funning)

So what happen’s to Chuck if he loses this one?

[quote comment="72791"]So what happen’s to Chuck if he loses this one?[/quote]
he fights again
one or two losses doesnt mean a thing
ufc was started to pit style vs style
that will never change

[quote comment="72751"]Diaz catching Gomi wasn’t an upset sub? strikers feel grappling is tricky fighting that they just want to learn enough to defend. Personally I also find chokes a lucky thing. Now I think ground fighting is awesome so don’t think I’m one of those people I just respect it all. Plus I never thought of you or this post when I had this thought.[/quote]
No, you don’t accidently pull off a GOgo plata. He outskilled Gomi’s ground game there.

[quote comment="72803"][quote comment="72751"]Diaz catching Gomi wasn’t an upset sub? strikers feel grappling is tricky fighting that they just want to learn enough to defend. Personally I also find chokes a lucky thing. Now I think ground fighting is awesome so don’t think I’m one of those people I just respect it all. Plus I never thought of you or this post when I had this thought.[/quote]
No, you don’t accidently pull off a GOgo plata. He outskilled Gomi’s ground game there.[/quote]
My point is a guy can be getting his ass handed to him and suddenly ‘catch’ the other guy in a submission. It happens all the time. Your beating someone down and leave your arm out there for a second to long or pull it back at the wrong angle, it happens.

[quote comment="72844"][quote comment="72803"][quote comment="72751"][/quote]
No, you don’t accidently pull off a GOgo plata. He outskilled Gomi’s ground game there.[/quote]
My point is a guy can be getting his ass handed to him and suddenly ‘catch’ the other guy in a submission. It happens all the time. Your beating someone down and leave your arm out there for a second to long or pull it back at the wrong angle, it happens.[/quote]

I know im not saying you can’t make a mistake and give up an easier than normal sub. But im just talking about the purely luck aspect. You can’t put down your head and start throwing wild submissions and hope you get one ya know? Even if the guy makes a dumb unusual mistake, the other guy has to be set up for it, or set himself up, see it and think aobut, and then execute teh sub.
The closest thing to a lucky sub almost anybody can thrwo up is a Guillatine, and even then it has to be given to them, they dont throw up a lucky Guillatine.

I feel what you mean by the chess match I do. I just don’t believe punching is lucky either. It just looks that way. Was GG lucky? How about Soko ko win over nog or Rashads kick to Salmons dome? Was Rampages ko of Chuck luck? Even Serras punch wasn’t lucky, just maybe a good thing GSP slipped. Look at the Johnnie Morton fight this weekend. Huge strong guy came in swinging wild trying to get ‘lucky’. He got ko’ed to the hospital. By the way he is banned from mma for refusing a drug test at the hospital. What a dummy. Anyway it all takes real talent. Just any dummy can throw his arms and you must learn BJJ its true. But to be a champ in either is not luck.

[quote comment="72903"]I feel what you mean by the chess match I do. I just don’t believe punching is lucky either. It just looks that way. Was GG lucky? How about Soko ko win over nog or Rashads kick to Salmons dome? Was Rampages ko of Chuck luck? Even Serras punch wasn’t lucky, just maybe a good thing GSP slipped. Look at the Johnnie Morton fight this weekend. Huge strong guy came in swinging wild trying to get ‘lucky’. He got ko’ed to the hospital. By the way he is banned from mma for refusing a drug test at the hospital. What a dummy. Anyway it all takes real talent. Just any dummy can throw his arms and you must learn BJJ its true. But to be a champ in either is not luck.[/quote]
Well yeah not ALL punches are lucky. I do not believe the Rampage and CHuck was lucky at all. Most non-lucky punch ever, awsome cover up and then he looked up at a target and threw it beautifully. Nor was GG, not lucky.
I think Serra was a bit more on the wild throwing lucky side though. I didnt see that one you mentioned over the weekend. Sounds cool though, I alwasy love wehn the wild brawler gets punished for it by the techniqually clean guy.

I also think its easier to make a mistake on your feet. If you have two good BJJ fighters the fight could go on forever or maybe draw from a lack of mistakes being made in a match. In striking there is a difference in mistake tolerance. The punch (or whatever) is usually not lucky, it’s the other person making the mistakes that your waiting on, sometimes that is luck. I think a g-choke and a rnc can be lucky. Its not hard at all to apply and if on right will end anyone. One mistake to his back and if he doesn’t defend it’s over. Personally I think it’s the best thing on the planet. Even someone you normally couldn’t beat you can choke out.

Oh yeah I concede with the Gi, it changes alot.
[quote post="2313"]If you have two good BJJ fighters the fight could go on forever or maybe draw from a lack of mistakes being made in a match. In striking there is a difference in mistake tolerance. The punch (or whatever) is usually not lucky, it’s the other person making the mistakes that your waiting on, sometimes that is luck[/quote]
Yeah I agree, that sums it up pretty nicely.

Hey Tommy,
How do you get your name to link to your space? I tried and it seemed to work, I would post and my name would be blue, but as soon as I refreshed or went to another page, it would be gone. So basically it didnt let me post. Did you have to wait like a day or something like an approval period?

[quote comment="72323"]Anyone else think it would be weird to see Chuck without a mohawk?[/quote]
oh yeah was that a real bet?

[quote comment="72926"]Hey Tommy,
How do you get your name to link to your space? I tried and it seemed to work, I would post and my name would be blue, but as soon as I refreshed or went to another page, it would be gone. So basically it didnt let me post. Did you have to wait like a day or something like an approval period?[/quote]
When you set the url in the website slot close it and leave a message in the spot you changed it. That will save it for you.

Rampage should be getting promotion instead. Well it will only give him good material for quips and stuff. How long until Rampage can smash Chuck again? I like Chuck and all but I think he has lost his edge due to fame and too much ass kissing.