Lightweight contestants on this season of The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 5 — Marlon Sims and Noah Thomas — will settle their backyard brawl during the show at the TUF 5 Finale on June 23, according to FightNetwork.com.
The two eliminated fighters got into an argument late one night and it escalated into a rather heated scuffle. Cheapshots, head kicks and slams into the pavement were just a few of the highlights.
To check out some of the video footage click here.
Once the dust settled UFC President Dana White dropped in the next day to share his disappointment with the cast — not just Thomas and Sims. He went on a rather calm tirade, telling the contestants that they were feeding into the “stereotype” that he has busted his ass over the years from which he has tried to distance the organization and ultimately the sport.
White made some truly great points after the fact. He then booted Thomas, Sims and instigator Alan Berubie from the house.
To be honest, after his speech I thought we’d never see them in the Octagon again.
So why reward these clowns with more exposure and more or less validate the incident?
Quick answer: Ratings.
And that’s just disgraceful.
(Update: Check out Steve Seivert’s post over at Brawl Sports about this match up — he said it better than me.)
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I was just writing about this. It’s horrible, Dana just (in my opinion) makes himself look like an asshole by talking all the stuff he did on the show, and then letting them fight again. Ratings is the only reason why. I honestly don’t see why Noah is even fighting, because he never showed me anything worth putting on TV. He’s a grade C-D fighter in my opinion.
This is so stupid. If Dana really meant a word he said, then they would have edited the entire fight from the show to begin with.
If it was really MMA’s reputation he’s concerned with, and if the backyard brawl really damages that reputation, the fight never should have made it on the air.
In my opinion, this makes hypocrites out of Dana and anyone else involved in this.
If this is the case, then there may be a good chance that Gabe might also be on the card. If Gabe is on the card, then he is no option but to win his fight against whoever his opponent is if he wants to win back SOME respect from the fans.
[quote comment=”68852″]If this is the case, then there may be a good chance that Gabe might also be on the card. If Gabe is on the card, then he is no option but to win his fight against whoever his opponent is if he wants to win back SOME respect from the fans.[/quote]
..he HAS no option
I apologize for that error.
I would love to see who would make it official.
So was their fight pretaped and simply aired after the backyard brawl or did they actually fight again in the octagon after said incident?
To paraphrase Doc Holliday, Dana’s hypocrisy knows no bounds. After their stupid backyard skirmish they shouldn’t be fighting in the UFC, especially considering the content of Dana’s rant. I’m looking forward to this fight almost as much as the fight between Gabe and the box of Krispy Kremes.
That’s retarted..You broadcast and shine a light on a bad example of MMA..we don’t need to see these 2 fight again backyard or in the cage..First the UFC bashes them for disrespecting the sport, kick them off the show..just 2 bring them back for a MMA fight on live TV..I beg to differ with whoever thinks that’s a good idea.
[quote post=”2267″]I’m looking forward to this fight almost as much as the fight between Gabe and the box of Krispy Kremes.[/quote]
Ha!
[quote comment=”68873″]To paraphrase Doc Holliday, Dana’s hypocrisy knows no bounds. After their stupid backyard skirmish they shouldn’t be fighting in the UFC, especially considering the content of Dana’s rant. I’m looking forward to this fight almost as much as the fight between Gabe and the box of Krispy Kremes.[/quote]
LOL Dana whats up? Don’t you care if you come across as a hypocritical flake?
Men Dana did u just kick this two people out. They are both a disgrace as a mma fighter. Dana should find a new matchup rather than this one. This sucks for people like Andy Wang, he might not even fighting in the finale. And Wang has been the main attraction. Cry me a River.
They’re BOTH SHITE anyway what a waste of time GRRRRR
Thomas is useless and Simms “Mr Invincible” ought to be fed to and anaconda somewhere around the Amazon river cos he’s just a cocky (but totally shite fighter) muppet. He lasted 40 odd seconds and he was trying to brag about never tapping out…..DICKHEAD!
I could excuse this if these two were actually good. Then, you could use the excuse that it would be a shame to let one incident ruin two promising careers.
While I dont think these two should be banned from the UFC, because of the stress of being cooped up in that house for so long, having them fight each other again is a cheap ratings ploy. If Dana only wanted to five them a second chance, he would have them fighting other people.
Plus I dont see this being a good fight without a concrete sidewalk for someone’s head to get slammed into.
I just realized the first part of my comment contradicts the second part. I changed my mind a little as I was writing it.
WTF?! Even if these two guys had some talent meriting a slot in the UFC, what’s the penalty here for the backyard brawl? They get to go home and relax instead of staying in the house and training? If guys who get the boot will fight in the TUF Finale anyway, it almost sounds like getting kicked off the show is the best of both worlds. These ass-clowns and Gabe shouldn’t get a UFC fight. They should be exiled back to the minor leagues to start their careers over.
But if you’re going to let them fight, there should be a little punishment involved. Gabe vs. Shogun in a special catch weight match. Sure, even with all the ice cream cake he’ll be giving up 30 pounds, but Gabe needs to suffer for his many sins.
Good idea. Arlovski vs Simms. I’d like to see the mop and bucket being used after that 1 lol
Two mules fighting over a turnip
What about Andy Wang is he goin to be in the season Finale as well.
Even if these two guys had some talent meriting a slot in the UFC, what’s the penalty here
But if you’re going to let them fight, there should be a little punishment involved. Gabe vs. Shogun in a special catch weight match. Sure, even with all the ice cream cake he’ll be giving up 30 pounds, but Gabe needs to suffer for his many sins.
” That’s funny Gabe vs SHOGUN..what about Marlon vs Fedor..and have Noah fight Tony Dsoulza..ratings right?? “
i dont understand this one, dana.
Dam what about Andy Wang! Is he goin to fight in the finale
Agree Mania…Why reward these clowns? These guys should get pushed right out of the sport. Neither one of them are any good anyways. Putting this fight on is like putting on Gabe Rudiger
yo other longisland guy.. can u please get a different name.. wats wrong wit u
I’m not one to post much, but this topic pissed me off once already and it continues to do so. These clowns should be barred from any UFC event EVER. It’s trash like this that will keep the view of brutality in and keep the UFC out of places like Chicago (which sucks cuz that’s where I’m from; Theres a ban on Pro level fights). Not only do these punks not realize that they represent themselves, but they represent the UFC and the entire sport, and completely disrespected all of the above. I think that there are things that are more valuable than a dollar, and one is a mans word. Dana kinda sold himself on this one. How are people going to take him seriously on this topic anymore? I won’t. I think more and more that he preaches one thing, but only looks for the pay out.
“Quick answer: Ratings.
And that’s just disgraceful.”
Someone said Dana’s hypocrisy knows no bounds. I couldn’t have said it better myself.
So those two jokers violate house rules and then the UFC is going to sponser their fight? What about the guy who went over the fence to pork that ho? The UFC should sponsor him in a porn movie right?
This is just going to encourage guys to fight in the house from now on. Good, I hope someone gets hurt and sues Zuffa.
This is a joke, and it’s saltin’ my grill.
Can you say horrible?
Seriously, Noah is very amateur and I gaurentee you, someone like myself could step into the octagon and defeat Noah within 2 minutes. I would bet 1 grand on that. Maybe I could get a chance to fight him later on if Dana reads that =p
He proved how horrible he was at MMA on TUF so why put him in the ocatgon, thats like Shamrock/Ortiz IV.
Sims, if going to come out there with his chin exposed horribly but yet Noah will still miss because he has no coordination.
I hope both of them go in there and just snap each others knee caps at the same time, call it a draw and we never see either of them in the ocatgon ever again.
I agree with everyone saying that Dana really went back on his words, and I don’t think that either of these two scrubs should be fighting in the UFC.
With that said and the fight already a done deal, is anyone looking forward to it? I know that I will be looking more forward to this fight than say a Andy “I surprisingly speak good English, but can’t listen for shit” Wang vs Brian “Lauzon made me look like a little boy” Geraghty.
Mr. NC-17 i think a grand is to small.. got up that a little, the guy is horrible.. plus if u weigh a lot more thats goin to help as well.. so i say if ur around 185 ish.. im putting down atleast 5 thousand on ur ass..maybe 10
i thought i wrote a post guess i didnt go threw..
NC-17 - dont cut urself short.. a grand is not enough money.. if ur a little heavier then he is, plus he is just outright terrible.. im putting 5 if not 10 g’s on ur ass..
I’d like to see those guys on the ground with a couple of old doors laid over top of them and Tim Sylvia and Butterbean jumping on them. Put that on PPV.
How does Dana decide what Spike tv will and won’t aire once they tape it?
Look at the old UFC. Look at Pride fc. Out of business. I for one understand that life is a fine line and sometimes you can’t do everything right and can make mistakes and you can’t Ever make everyone happy. What he’s done with this company and sport to me deserves some respect and understanding. You guys just keep on bashing him. Most people couldn’t amount to one of his tweezed nose hairs.
One part of me wants to see this fight… the other part is a lil disgusted at Dana for even setting it up. Its a joke really, but in the same sense, how many times have MMA fighters had truely bad blood between them and found? We watched the 2 horse merrie-go-round that was Tito-Shamrock 3 times, along with TUF series, and ultimately Dana shitting on Ken for his attitude. Its about selling spots, not about pride and the right thing to do. But in all honesty, this isnt as bad as most TV and sports BS that goes on. Ill watch it…
I guess this is just TV. I like to see 2 people fight out of anger though, someone ussually gets hurt.
Dana could sniff money out even if it is in a pile of shit. I’m sure if someone said to Dana that people enjoyed Gabe’s attitude on the show he would get his contract back in a second.
[quote comment=”69018″]”Quick answer: Ratings.
And that’s just disgraceful.”
Someone said Dana’s hypocrisy knows no bounds. I couldn’t have said it better myself.[/quote]
Cannot do nothing but agree.
Later
Chris Valentine
[quote comment=”69085″]Mr. NC-17 i think a grand is to small.. got up that a little, the guy is horrible.. plus if u weigh a lot more thats goin to help as well.. so i say if ur around 185 ish.. im putting down atleast 5 thousand on ur ass..maybe 10[/quote]
I am at 172 you are close.
Hell, I would drop 17 pounds and put 10 thousands dollars on the line to fight Noah Thomas inside the octagon.
Hell, it will be a better fight to watch anyway because I’ll drop Noah within 2 minutes, and plus I would sponser UFCMANIA on my ass =p.
Noah is a joke, and hell you know what I’ll put another 10 thousand to take on Sims right after Noah.
This season of TUF is filled with a bunch of no good losers that have no dedication and have no will to win in the octagon (the people who got elimate first round, the people who want to be there won their fights)
I should have tried out, I could beat andy wang, brian gerhaty, Lobster, Noah, Marlon, Wayne weems… ha please.
Rob Emerson looks like his leg kicks hurt so I dunno if I could beat him in 3 rounds.
But any of the 6 fighters I just named put me in an Octagon with them I will put up money and let me fight them and show them what fighting is all about.
Heart.
It seems to me like this is kind of shite is just going to be happening for now on. More and more money is pouring in, so decisions will be based on how much money can be made. Once this transition happens, the sport will begin to go downhill.
Someone commented earlier about fighters having a title shot after one fight, or no fights in the UFC. Its all about ratings and money now.
this sucks.
both these fighters are shit and wont be around after this fight period !they[each fighter] are guarenteed at least 1 fight when they sign up so once its done; bye bye ,theyll be sittin with thacker on the side lines more bullshit so dana can fill the bottom of a card and make money ,white is starting to make me sick
[quote comment=”68846″]I was just writing about this. It’s horrible, Dana just (in my opinion) makes himself look like an asshole by talking all the stuff he did on the show, and then letting them fight again. Ratings is the only reason why. I honestly don’t see why Noah is even fighting, because he never showed me anything worth putting on TV. He’s a grade C-D fighter in my opinion.[/quote]
I agree completely. There’s not alot of ‘polish’ to this series of fighters; it will be sad to waste tv time on these two scrubs when I could be watching kenflo break somebody down or someshit.
A fight is a fight..yes what they did was wrong but they were pissed and they fought, that’s what fighters do..I agree these guys suck..but fuck it let them fight…
[quote comment=”68913″]Even if these two guys had some talent meriting a slot in the UFC, what’s the penalty here
But if you’re going to let them fight, there should be a little punishment involved. Gabe vs. Shogun in a special catch weight match. Sure, even with all the ice cream cake he’ll be giving up 30 pounds, but Gabe needs to suffer for his many sins.
” That’s funny Gabe vs SHOGUN..what about Marlon vs Fedor..and have Noah fight Tony Dsoulza..ratings right?? “[/quote]
You left off Monstah vs. Big John McCarthy, LOL!(Refer back to the TUF episode 8 recap post if you don’t know what I’m talking about.)
ok i know it has been a while sence anyone has posted in this but i feel i have to say something if someone has not said it already. in my opinion sims is full of crap. there is no way that you are going to get into 300 street fights in your life time. you guys might not know this but most people (unless your a MMA fighter) will do just about anything to get out of a fight. most people dont want to fight unless they absolutely have to. its a last resort for most people. and even if you did get into 300 street fights there is no way in hell that you will win all of them. you want to know why? becuse no matter how hard you try no matter how hard you work out there is always going to be someone better than you. theres always going to be someone haveing a better day than you. theres always going to be someone that gets that good punch in…so i would have to say to you sims…shut the hell up dude.
[quote comment=”68847″]This is so stupid. If Dana really meant a word he said, then they would have edited the entire fight from the show to begin with.
If it was really MMA’s reputation he’s concerned with, and if the backyard brawl really damages that reputation, the fight never should have made it on the air.
In my opinion, this makes hypocrites out of Dana and anyone else involved in this.[/quote]
THAT IS A VERY GOOD POINT. THANK YOU.