so whats up? is chuck still getting more then rampage? thats insane, i think hes done a little more then win for dana if u know what im saying. little SLURP SLURP

by the way…

if chuck hooked up with that brunette in the previous post, im jealous

I hope the salaries of fighter start to rise because thats shit compared to boxing and UFC is doing better than boxing.

[quote comment=”68446″]I hope the salaries of fighter start to rise because thats shit compared to boxing and UFC is doing better than boxing.[/quote]
they are quickly on the rise
will get a ton better
chuck was up for a mill if he won. im sure we will see 2 mills by the end of the year

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i am looking to get my hands on a complete set of ufc dvd’s… something like 1-70 and the fight nights 1-9
anyone got any leads. there was one on the internet but the site looked shady and its not on there anymore. i imagine zuffa took them down.

i guess it might be hard to tell me cuz im sure zuffa wouldnt mins taking anyone down

i think i am the worst typist of all the people that post here

3,000 ? how do u make this ur living if u make so less.. thats crazy… and some nobody’s are making in the ten of thousands.. odd to me

[quote comment=”68447″][quote comment=”68446″]I hope the salaries of fighter start to rise because thats shit compared to boxing and UFC is doing better than boxing.[/quote]
they are quickly on the rise
will get a ton better
chuck was up for a mill if he won. im sure we will see 2 mills by the end of the year[/quote]
I also think Chucks under paid compared to what Mike Tyson use to get.

[quote comment=”68450″]!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i am looking to get my hands on a complete set of ufc dvd’s… something like 1-70 and the fight nights 1-9
anyone got any leads. there was one on the internet but the site looked shady and its not on there anymore. i imagine zuffa took them down.

i guess it might be hard to tell me cuz im sure zuffa wouldnt mins taking anyone down[/quote]
Do you live in the States and what type of DVD player do you have.

i live in sacramento and my dvd player plays everything except XviD. i am mostly interested in undercards, but it would have fun to have the whole collection

lets see…
4.4 million at the gate
1 mill ppvs’s = about 40 million
about 1 million in salaries

dana white = 43 million….. lol j/k

[quote comment=”68463″]i live in sacramento and my dvd player plays everything except XviD. i am mostly interested in undercards, but it would have fun to have the whole collection[/quote]
Thats cool i have family there(nothing to do with the subject). If your DVD player plays PAL dvd then check out http://www.fightdvd.co.uk the have almost every UFC dvd out thats where i buy all my stuff. They do alot of double dvd which is cool. Hope its some help dude.

Chuck made good money in this bout. Very nice. Rampage did also, and now he’s going to recieve all the endorsement’s Chuck was getting. Even though Chuck’s purse was more heavy, Rampage gets it all in the long run.
Rampage will probably make 600-700 K in his next Match-up against Hendo…(Maybe)..
Rampage will be a huge and vital M.M.A. fighter int eh UFC for the next while, so embrace this and hate it!
~Salute~ to Rampage..

Looks like Rampage negotiated himself a descent deal. Over 200K is pretty descent per fight. He will make more in the following fight which means he will make a little less than 3/4 Mil by the end of the year. Assuming he will fight two more times. Not a bad living I say. Beats fighting and living in Japan. So Liddell got more. So what? He was expected to win also….It’s only being questioned because he lost. Ragardless Liddell should remain one of the top paid fightrs in the world. He will be back! I’m more dissapointed on what Jardine got. Thats sucks! he may have lost but they guy was in title contention up until this KO.

I read Rampage made an additional 225k for the knockout.

You have to factor in the PPV % they recieve. I’m sure both Jackson and Liddell made millions Saturday night. Ortiz and Liddell got 2.5% of PPV’s - and I suspect that’s the standard. And of course, you have to add endorsements too.

Still I agree, they’re making shit compared to most other sports. A benchwarmer in NBA is making more than most of MMA fighters.

FYI - at the post fight presser, Dana told us that Kalib Starnes and Leben won “fight of the night”.

Feel free to make the change in your report. - Always glad to help.

I think it is funny that Houston Alexander first time ever in the octagon agaisnt a vet in Keith Jardine, made more money.

[quote comment=”68451″]i think i am the worst typist of all the people that post here[/quote]
nope got u there
lol

The biggest part is that whole endorsements. As in any other sport, it’s the endorsement dollars that are the biggest, not the salaries / per fight dollars

I agree with MMA fighter’s recieving more money for their job..Most UFC events are 100 times more exciting than Boxing matches..and boxer’s get more money by the light years..just to hop around and spar with pillows on their hands..sometimes boxing matches don’t even need a cutman just a towel boy from the country club..Let the MMA/UFC fighter’s eat at the big table.

If it hand’t of been Chuck Liddell that Rampage knocked out, then I would have to say that Houston Alexander deserved the knockout of the night.

The pay isnt that great yet. I am assuming that it will continue to increase in size, unless the UFC wants someone else to come in and take over MMA.

[quote comment=”68497″]FYI - at the post fight presser, Dana told us that Kalib Starnes and Leben won “fight of the night”.

Feel free to make the change in your report. - Always glad to help.[/quote]

“Fight of the night”? It did go three rounds but the last 2 rounds were kind of limp. I enjoyed just about every other fight more (Din Thomas vs. Jeremy Stephens was a great rookie vs veteran fight). Is there a release of what UFC has as fight/submission/knockout etc of the night?

Forrest

[quote comment=”68540″]If it hand’t of been Chuck Liddell that Rampage knocked out, then I would have to say that Houston Alexander deserved the knockout of the night.

The pay isnt that great yet. I am assuming that it will continue to increase in size, unless the UFC wants someone else to come in and take over MMA.[/quote]
if chuck and rampage each got 2% of the PPV thats about 800k more each

screw chuck. he should get half of what rampage gets. idc if hes a poster boy.. u loose, u loose. i mean yeah, live off ur sponsors thats cool, but u guys are all talking underpayment? thats alot of money for tops 25 minutes of a fight.

For the money getting raked in by Zuffa, the fighters should be making more. Someone said “How do these guys live on $3000 a fight,” well even at $10k you’re not living in the lap of luxury. These guys get 3 maybe 4 fights a year, they need to be paid more.

Keep in mind that the UFC (and any other MMA promotion) makes money directly through sales and sponsorships, not by the on-paper successes of their fighters. Thus, MMA fighters get paid based on their MARKETABILITY. Being a top fighter (e.g. Fedor, Cro Cop, GSP, Chuck, Wanderlei) is just one factor in determining marketability, but another important factor is their popularity (e.g. Randy, Chuck, Tito, GSP, Royce Gracie).

The fighters who make $100k/fight have made a name for themselves as fighters to watch and follow, and the fighters who make >$200k/fight have a very strong fan base, thus making them very valuable to the MMA promotion.

Keep this in mind the next time you look at fighter paychecks.

[quote comment=”68553″]Keep in mind that the UFC (and any other MMA promotion) makes money directly through sales and sponsorships, not by the on-paper successes of their fighters. Thus, MMA fighters get paid based on their MARKETABILITY. Being a top fighter (e.g. Fedor, Cro Cop, GSP, Chuck, Wanderlei) is just one factor in determining marketability, but another important factor is their popularity (e.g. Randy, Chuck, Tito, GSP, Royce Gracie).

The fighters who make $100k/fight have made a name for themselves as fighters to watch and follow, and the fighters who make >$200k/fight have a very strong fan base, thus making them very valuable to the MMA promotion.

Keep this in mind the next time you look at fighter paychecks.[/quote]

Tihs seems logical, except that Houstan Alexander got more than Jardine? Explain that one?

Alexander got 4,000 to show and 4,000 to win.Jardine got 7,000 just to show.

[quote comment=”68565″]Alexander got 4,000 to show and 4,000 to win.Jardine got 7,000 just to show.[/quote]

Yeah yeah, I knew that.

I still feel Jardine would be more money win or lose. He was supposed to win which should of drawn more money for him

[quote comment=”68497″]FYI - at the post fight presser, Dana told us that Kalib Starnes and Leben won “fight of the night”.

Feel free to make the change in your report. - Always glad to help.[/quote]

He also said midway through TUF 5 that Emerson/Diaz was the greatest fight the series has ever seen.

I know you’re hanging on my every word but if you go to http://www.hobby.com you might be able to find something to take your mind off me.

Good luck!

If your not a top of the world fight the money really sucks. Jardine only 7 grand? No wonder they struggle getting new talent sometimes. College football players get bigger bribes then this.

IMO the money is about right for the headliners and Karo…don’t forget the headliners get a cut of the PPV and I think the gate as well. Plus, the “of the night” and “just because” bonuses. It costs tons of money for the venue and promotions, so the UFC and Dana aren’t making $40m…I would like to see a breakdown to an event net $. However, $3k, $7k, $10k is rediculous. Total payroll should be somewhere around 10% gross take. Chuck would still have Ferraris and Sean Salmon could afford to eat and pay the rent while looking for a new job.

Fight of the night went to Kalib Starnes & Chris Leben, not Karo/Burkman.

You should get a hold of the post fight conference after each fight as it’s usually full of lots of info, much of the things you posted and credited to other sites could be found pretty much right after the fight. Boxing scene usually has the videos pretty quickly.

nice pay day for din thomas, and a nice showing as well, he deserved the dough, hope he fights a top 5 guy next, he’s got some talent at 155

Parysian did ok for himself as well.

[quote comment=”68499″]I think it is funny that Houston Alexander first time ever in the octagon agaisnt a vet in Keith Jardine, made more money.[/quote]
Man… bad weekend for Jardine. He was probably in line for around $30K to 50K had he won. Hope he didn’t piss away more than $7K that weekend. Sunday morning he woke up demoted AND poor.

[quote comment=”68552″]For the money getting raked in by Zuffa, the fighters should be making more. Someone said “How do these guys live on $3000 a fight,” well even at $10k you’re not living in the lap of luxury. These guys get 3 maybe 4 fights a year, they need to be paid more.[/quote]
I doubt the fighters can make that kind of money in competing, smaller venues (yet). But the sport is still growing and the UFC will be pressured to pay more as time goes on. If anything right now, there are probably a ton of guys who would be willing to fight for free just to get some face time in the octagon. It’s gravy time for Zuffa.

[quote post=”2257″]I know you’re hanging on my every word but if you go to http://www.hobby.com you might be able to find something to take your mind off me.[/quote]
I know how you feel…

Now did QRJ make 225,000 total or 450,000 total?

I once saw an article online talking about fighters and if they were under paid and it had how much money UFC made last year in total compared to the fighters salaries. I am going to look for it again and if anyone else finds it before me please post the link.

I am beginning to agree with Frank Shamrock and Tito Ortiz in believing that UFC was and still is raping their fighters in terms of the money they are getting. Its like the main event makes ass cheek money compared to what Frank and Renzo got for their fight on Showtime and then everyone who is not in the main event gets bus driver wages, after taxes and what not guys like Josh Burkman - $7,000 after the taxes he is getting chump change ditto for Houston Alexander - $8,000 and Keith Jardine - $7,000. It makes me wonder if its even worth the risk cause a guy like Jardine could have been seriously hurt that night and his purse was barely enough to cover the cost of a damn CAT scan.

Tito and Frank both have mentioned that the fighters pay does not accurately reflect what the industry is making off of them. Frank’s sole problem with Dana White is the fact that he feels that Dana is exploiting fighters with the piss poor pay. There is an interview with Rampage floating around when they talked about pay (Before he joined UFC) and he said that the reason why most fighters choose to fight in Japan was because that money was not taxed in the states its like the Japanese taxed it and then thats it but since the Yen was so high the fighters loved it cause they were getting really good money.

I think that something has to be done about the pay scale in the future. I can now see why guys like Frank and Bas Rutten have called for other veteran fighters and pleaded for up and comers to go to other leagues instead of UFC because it will force competition amongst the leagues which means the pay has to increase. Now that UFC has pretty much cornered the market one company dominating a whole industry is never a good thing. Just look at the WWE product NOW compared to when WCW was alive and still on TV. If I’m not mistaken that is exactly what Lou DiBella was saying too before Joe Rogan kept interrupting him with stupid comments like “your just mad because we are swallowing boxing” even after DiBella said he respects MMA

[quote comment=”68552″]For the money getting raked in by Zuffa, the fighters should be making more. Someone said “How do these guys live on $3000 a fight,” well even at $10k you’re not living in the lap of luxury. These guys get 3 maybe 4 fights a year, they need to be paid more.[/quote]
Fighters should get maybe $5000 guaranteed, but if they pull in 30-40K per year in addition to sponsorships then they’re doing OK. The headliners do deserve a cut of the gate/PPV take because they are the fighters people are paying to see. Even Salmon’s family wouldn’t pay to watch him fight. And I like the bonus structure for wins/KOs/subs/fight of the night, etc., because it usually helps prevent lackluster fights when a fighter has a chance to add 10 percent to his annual salary for a great win.

A large majority of the fighters salaries are paid “under the table”. One person who posted said it exactly right …

1. 4.4 million at the gate
2. 40 million in PPV
3. prob $250,000 in merchandise

Yet Keith Jardine and Josh Burkamn earned on paper $7,000 a piece? If this is their career they cant live of this money can they ?

No they cannot since these two train full time you better believe what is reported is just a figure White and the Zuffas give to the Nevada State Athletic Commission just to appease them. You know they most liklely brough in an additional $25,000 - $30,000 based on their names (Burkman and Jardine) and where they did fit in at the time (both in the top ten contention).

You better believe Dana is taking care of these boys because he is getting rich off them.

As always Kevin in Queens

Not to mention bigger named fighters such as Josh Burkman and Keith Jardine earn sponsorship money prob anywhere from $7,000-$15,000 for wearing gear to the octagon. Add that to the fact that they both prob will fight 4 times in a year and they are making well over $100,000 just for fighting. Not bad for a lot of college graduates today considering I was offered bullshit salaries ranging from $28,000 - $35,000 right out of school and I have an MBA in Business Management from a well known school in NY. If you ask me they are living a very comfortable lifestyle since a lot of their money is being reported or taxed.

Does anybody know how much GSP gets paid a fight.

I would imagine that “on paper” he makes about $35,000-$65,000 could be anywhere in that range. But again that is for Nevada State Athletic Commission purposes only so he may be bringing in damn near $90,000-$100,000 per fight with salary, bonus, gate sales, ppvs, and sponsorships.

I do believe that some of the fighters that are from outside of the US gets 1/2 of their earning taken away by taxes…..so for some of those fighters that only earn a few grand earn even less after they get taxed…

Even with all of the money the UFC is earning, that although Dana and Zuffa are lining their pockets very nicely, I heard a recent report that said between the time they bought the UFC and now they have put 4.4 Billion dollars worth into the UFC. So while most fighters are under paid as with most companies whom are coming up from the bottom, a good portion of the money has to be put back into the company for the company to grow. The UFC is the fastest growing sport in the world and might just hit #2 or #3 sport in North America. Only thing I really dont see it eclipsing is the NFL. So with that said, the company will start making more then it has to put back into it and then fighter salaries will rise quickly. Jackson will likely make a very very nice paycheck for his fight with Hendo but it should be intersting to see how much Hendo is going to get for that fight.

[quote comment=”68565″]Alexander got 4,000 to show and 4,000 to win.Jardine got 7,000 just to show.[/quote]

Oh really,
Din Thomas got 28,000. I thought Jardine was a bigger name.

[quote comment=”69015″][quote comment=”68565″]Alexander got 4,000 to show and 4,000 to win.Jardine got 7,000 just to show.[/quote]

Oh really,
Din Thomas got 28,000. I thought Jardine was a bigger name.[/quote]

Even though it said it didnt, im pretty sure that figure incorporates his submission of the nigth bonus.

[quote comment=”68818″]A large majority of the fighters salaries are paid “under the table”. One person who posted said it exactly right …

1. 4.4 million at the gate
2. 40 million in PPV
3. prob $250,000 in merchandise

Yet Keith Jardine and Josh Burkamn earned on paper $7,000 a piece? If this is their career they cant live of this money can they ?
[/quote]
They can go set up a table at the mall and charge $40 for an autograph. Seriously though the bigger names like Arlovski can make extra money on endorsements but I don’t think Jardine and Burkman are in that league yet.

[quote comment=”68986″]Even with all of the money the UFC is earning, that although Dana and Zuffa are lining their pockets very nicely, I heard a recent report that said between the time they bought the UFC and now they have put 4.4 Billion dollars worth into the UFC. [/quote]
Can you post a link for that? I can’t imagine it’s that much. Maybe 20 million/year over 7 years = 140 million would be my guess. They aren’t paying their fighters much so where are the other expenses?

[quote comment=”69105″][quote comment=”68986″]Even with all of the money the UFC is earning, that although Dana and Zuffa are lining their pockets very nicely, I heard a recent report that said between the time they bought the UFC and now they have put 4.4 Billion dollars worth into the UFC.

U talking 4.4 billion like it’s 40 bucks. Come on….

are these guys fucking nuts they dont make shit while dana white and the trust fund babies, lorenzo and his brother make millions….they need to wake up and smell the homeless the gate alone draws at least 5 to 10 million pay per view prob in the 20 to 30 million range….absolutely nuts..