WOW What a night! Talk about year of the underdogs in the UFC.

We had a little fun watching it after a couple of fights on the PPV card it almost seemed like you could put your wager on black and let it ride…..it would have won you a lot of $$$ down there……

Nice to see Chuck finally loose…he is a great fighter but we do need some change at times to spice things up.

Congrats Rampage! You whooped some ass!

GOOD NIGHT CHUCK…RAMPAGE HAS YOUR NUMBER!

AFTER THEY SAT HIM ON A STOOL..CHUCK ASKED HIS CORNER, “WHAT HAPPENED?”…YOU GOT YOUR ASS KNOCKED OUT FOOL!

Rampage better enjoy the belt while he has it because the best Light Heavyweight in the world is Mauricio Shogun Hua and he’s gone whup that ass when he gets his shot. He already kicked Rampage’s ass in Pride.

Letter to Dana White, Shogun should fight for the title soon or your just wasting the time of all your fans.

He’ll use his Muay Thai shit on Rampage and it will be all over. Rampage doesn’t defend knees well at all.

I’ll wait for that fight before I buy another UFC Pay-Per-View, what a waste of time and money.

Furthermore, I always thought Chuck left his guard down too much and I guess it goes to show I was right. Anyone and I mean anyone will get knocked out when they are clocked in the temple like that and that’s what happens when you leave yourself so open. It’s a surprise it hasn’t happened earlier.

[quote comment=”66202″]WOW What a night! Talk about year of the underdogs in the UFC.

Underdog? If you know anything about MMA, (which with this statement means that you don’t) you would know that this was not an upset. Rampage has been in knock out drag out wars, Chuck has not so his chin was suspect. Untested. Until Now. haha

I told you so..I called from the first day..till showtime. I loved it..great overrall was UFC71..I’m happy for Rampage..Chuck is a stud regardless of this out come. I just knew..that gut feeling Chuck was going to lose this fight..He has not fought a guy like rampage in recent times. If they fight again it would be the same result..he’ll have stars in his eye’s again..Like Tito with him..MMA/UFC the sky’s the limit.

chuck is a good fighter not a great fighter…he has power but is dull to watch in my opinion.way to much of a sit back and wait for the other guy to take all the chances.rampage is strong,a way better boxer and has a great chin to boot.i am glad to see a over rated fighter like chuck go.
hey why does dana not let rampage enjoy his success for a bit ….wow to fight hendo as your defense.

Sometimes other fighters just have your number, jacksons style matches up very well against chucks, and he isn’t afraid of anyone, I still wish chuck would have won….2007 year of the upsets.

Well i made it in time for the last 2 fight’s(was busy) and witnessed Quinton”Rampage”Jackson strip Chuck”THE ICEMAN”Liddell for the LHW(Light Heavy Weight) CH CH Championship! By KNOCKOUT!. Liddell was caught with a right and knocked to the ground, Quinton saw this and went in for a mount, aquied side mount and hit Chuck with about 4 punches. Big John saw this and stopped the fight at 1:44-1:46 of the very first round to crown Rampage the New LHW Champion. Greatest fight if i ever saw!..I was Rampage right from the beginning. Damn Chuck got beat and thats the truth. I said this before and i’ll say it again, every dog has it’s day, in todays case Chuck is the dog!
PLUS Dan is going to challenge Page for the Title. Damn, it just keeps getting better and better!!!!

Hey, Chuck got caught. I’m not gonna make excuses for my boy. I love Chuck to death. But Rampage was the better fighter (again) tonight. We all know there will be a 3rd (and possibly a 4th n 5th) just as long as it happens before chuck turns 40. Hendo is going to lose to RAMPAGE just to make it happen. And I’m drunk and it’s 3:38am EAST COAST bitches.

I feel queesy…Chuck is my Guy, I like Rampage and if anyone beat him, Rampaga would be the only guy I’d be cool with. I was pulling hard for Chuck but right from the start you sensed Rampage was in his head from the last fight. I just feel sick that it ended so pathetically. I think Chuck is the better fighter( opinion..because NOW especially you cannot make that claim with Rampage 2-0 on Chuck) but I think if they fought completely isolated from the mental edge Rampage owns with his forst fight….I think CHuck would’ve done what he does to Randleman. I just think sadly Rampage has Chuck like Chuck has Tito. I’d still like to see a III….only because Chuck deserves a chance to go out better than that. That SUCKED! Otherwise I say Chuck should take on Houston Alexander maybe…after his impressive job on Jardine.

Most Def a crazy night. I really hope hendo doesn’t get the next title shot because UFC is starting to get lame with all these guys coming from Pride and automatically getting title shots after like one fight. Whatever happened to working your way? I mean rampage had one fight and he got a title shot right after? now Hendo? who else? Seems like it’s now more about which fights are gonna bring in the money than rather who deserves it.

Great Night, my boy chuck got caught with a lucky shot,but rampage capitalized on it… The way i see it … Dan Henderson VS. Rampage Jackson = Dan Henderson then Chuck Lidell VS. Rashaad Evans= Chuck Liddell …. LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP… DAN HENDERSON VS> CHUCK LIDDELL = CHUCK LIDDELL… GAME OVER FOR THE NEXT 7 FIGHTS

There was some great fights tonight. Im so happy to see Chuck whooped, I just wish the whooping lasted longer.

Like has been said a few times before, Rampage had a lucky shot, i dont think so. If you see someone throw a lucky shot they didnt think would land, they look surprised. Rampage wasnt surprised. He then dropped down and beat on Chuck some more.

Then look at Chucks eyes and head, he looked like a newborn that was just learning to hold his head up straight, all whoozy and wild-eyed.

No fighter is invincible, like said before Rampage has Chuck’s #, and you know there are fighters that have Rampage’s #.

[quote comment=”66237″]Most Def a crazy night. I really hope hendo doesn’t get the next title shot because UFC is starting to get lame with all these guys coming from Pride and automatically getting title shots after like one fight. Whatever happened to working your way? I mean rampage had one fight and he got a title shot right after? now Hendo? who else? Seems like it’s now more about which fights are gonna bring in the money than rather who deserves it.[/quote]

This is quite true, just what I was thinking. Id like to see more fights then title shots.

This bugs me just as much as some of these WWE style entrances.
Heath Herring came out like the Undertaker, im waiting for Sgt. Slaughter to show up.

[quote comment=”66237″]Most Def a crazy night. I really hope hendo doesn’t get the next title shot because UFC is starting to get lame with all these guys coming from Pride and automatically getting title shots after like one fight. Whatever happened to working your way? I mean rampage had one fight and he got a title shot right after? now Hendo? who else? Seems like it’s now more about which fights are gonna bring in the money than rather who deserves it.[/quote]
I have to say that The guys from Pride Have earned it. You think that they haven’t but lets take a look. Anderson Silva from pride comes over and WINS the belt, then Rampage comes from Pride and WINS the belt. If they didn’t earn the shot then maybe they would have lost. I think sometimes it sucks, when pride guys come and get a shot, but if they are winning when they get the opportunity so be it. Hendo Vs. Rampage and then Rampage vs. Rashad( After he beats Tito) should be interesting.

Wow… just WOW. I wish Chuck would’ve overcome his fear and have won this fight. He had the potential to be the better fighter but he lost since he couldn’t overcome his fear of his past with Rampage. You could see the fear in Chuck’s eyes and in his voice during the pre-fight interviews and shit. Sigh.. I don’t even like Rampage but he is now the better fighter.

CHUCK got knocked the fuck out!!!!!!!!!Plus he looked scared from the beginning, backing up and all….Chuck shouldn’t fight rampage again….37 years old with a pop belly…Beat it Chuck…

chuck looked really punch drunk through the fight, he just didn’t look in it, page refused to play his game, he wouldn’t chase him and end up like babalu. wonder if chuck is gonna hang up the gloves?

what was with jardine and the monkey arms was he serious, alexander was throwing the exact same punch and jardine didn’t do anything to defend that right hook, very weak performance. don’t see he getting back to the top of the division no chance also i eat my words about chuck, i was sooooo wrong

Jackson so beat chuck at his own game, just sit back and counter, all the fights were good.

houston alexander threw two highlight reel uppercuts on Jardine, that guy is serious business now in 205. i say put him up against soukodjou but.. that will never happen haha..

Haaaaa HHHHaaaa,,that’s what everyone was waiting for !!!!!!
Rampage done did it,,Chuck is out !!!! And Chuck is not gonna gain it !!! that’s for sure !!!!! Hando,Shogun are on the road,,,so who knows,what’s gonna happen ! I’m not sure Rampage can defend his title succesfully,,,,Hando is one of my favourite fighters ! what i wanted rampage to do is over,,,he did it,,he did the thing that tito, and some othe guys couldn’t !
War Couture !!!!! Hando !!! swick !!!! Sanchez !!! GSP !!!! Stevenson !

[quote comment=”66237″]Most Def a crazy night. I really hope hendo doesn’t get the next title shot because UFC is starting to get lame with all these guys coming from Pride and automatically getting title shots after like one fight. Whatever happened to working your way? I mean rampage had one fight and he got a title shot right after? now Hendo? who else? Seems like it’s now more about which fights are gonna bring in the money than rather who deserves it.[/quote]
Well think of it as in the Super Bowl where you have the AFC champ vs the NFC champ. I’m more a fan of UFC over PRIDE but they both have world class talent.

[quote comment=”66239″]Great Night, my boy chuck got caught with a lucky shot,but rampage capitalized on it… The way i see it … Dan Henderson VS. Rampage Jackson = Dan Henderson then Chuck Lidell VS. Rashaad Evans= Chuck Liddell …. LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP… DAN HENDERSON VS> CHUCK LIDDELL = CHUCK LIDDELL… GAME OVER FOR THE NEXT 7 FIGHTS[/quote]
I sort of agree. Rampage lands that shot, it’s lucky. If Liddell had landed the same shot and finished the fight the same way, we wouldn’t say it was luck because he’s done it before. This is just like Serra-GSP where it’s a shocking outcome- not the one I was hoping for but- totally legit.
The bad thing is if you thought Rampage was over-exposed before, now we’re gonna get him 24×7. They should just give him his own reality show and be done with it.

[quote comment=”66308″]what was with jardine and the monkey arms was he serious, alexander was throwing the exact same punch and jardine didn’t do anything to defend that right hook, very weak performance. don’t see he getting back to the top of the division no chance also i eat my words about chuck, i was sooooo wrong[/quote]
Jardine gets the Arlovski-Sell award where you think you hurt a guy, close in for the kill but then get put to sleep. Alexander is on the radar screen now and unfortunately this is going to set back Jardine. It’s too bad they didn’t give Alexander someone like Sean Salmon to pound out first. Then a Jardine-Alexander bout would higher up on the card.

i”m glad rampage won! i”m sooooooooo in love with him

im curious as to why so many people are saying rampage has chucks number. im not taking it away from him that he won, but putting ur head down and throwing a blind right that lands doesnt give u somebody’s “number”.

man i wish icouldve seen the fight chuck was my hero for a long time i didnt think it would happen that quick that is 1 bad n_ _ _ _ _ r. chuck will be back that is almost guarennteed.

I thought Jardine was totally unprepared to fight. Looked like he didn’t want to be there, and to me, didn’t look like he was in the great physical condition that he was for his previous fights.

He thought he was getting shortchanged (he was) by having to fight Alexander, and didn’t show up. I wonder how much of this was Alexander and how much was a lackadaisical Jardine. The next fight is critical for both of them.

Chuck threw a lazy left and left himself wide open for the counter.I thought Rampage was going to win,just not that soon.Chuck is great he will be back.

Everybody look back at previous comments and you’ll see all the Rampage haters telling me he would get knocked out. It may sound smug back that was awesome by Rampage.

[quote comment=”66349″]im curious as to why so many people are saying rampage has chucks number. im not taking it away from him that he won, but putting ur head down and throwing a blind right that lands doesnt give u somebody’s “number”.[/quote]

Its not just this fight, rampage beat him before.

And I fully agree with MamasBoy, if Chuck had landed that hit, people would say it was skill. Rampage lands it, luck. It wasnt luck, Chuck left himself open and got hit, hard. When he fell his left leg was kind of folded back, he wasnt prepared for that fall at all.

Not to brag or anything but i called out Kalib Starnes beating Chris Leben and people were saying some harsh things.. Not throwing it in anyones face but I called that, and everyone on the site knows i did. boooyaaa

Man, what does it take to be considered a Great fighter then?…Chuck has beat some of the best and had a seven fight win streak…Rampage caught him…maybe Chuck was a little too confident…but it was definitly crazy seeing the Iceman get knocked the hell out…people were starting to think he was invincible…not so much

[quote comment=”66349″]im curious as to why so many people are saying rampage has chucks number. im not taking it away from him that he won, but putting ur head down and throwing a blind right that lands doesnt give u somebody’s “number”.[/quote]

Not sure which fight you were watching (the animated gif is right in the thread above) but that shot was in no way ‘blind’ nor was Rampage’s head down. He looked Chuck square in the eyes and knocked him TFO! Again… Don’t hate on Page just because he knocked the golden boy down a peg. If Chuck truly is the fighter he’s been made out to be then he’ll be back with a vengance. I think this will be a good test for Chuck. He was overdue for a erality check.

I’ve come to the realization that what ever sport have a large audience that there is monet to be made from all angles and one of them is betting. That fight looked fixed! These are professional fighters. come on that did’nt even look like a solid punch. It was a bad night for the ufc!!

[quote comment=”66210″][quote comment=”66202″]WOW What a night! Talk about year of the underdogs in the UFC.

Underdog? If you know anything about MMA, (which with this statement means that you don’t) you would know that this was not an upset. Rampage has been in knock out drag out wars, Chuck has not so his chin was suspect. Untested. Until Now. haha[/quote]

In Jo’s defense, the word “upset” was never used. And yes, Rampage was the “underdog”. Just check back on any of the pre-fight betting lines. But you are correct, I don’t consider Rampage’s KO an upset either.

Did anyone else notice Denis Kang at a UFC event? I realize he was cornering, but still… Man they need to sign that guy. He has no contract anywhere.

Henderson! They’re all screwed, drop some weight or put some weight on, cause 205 just got dominated.

If Rampage beats Hendo or viceversa does that make that person the Undisputed Light Heavy Weight Champion of the World for real for real? or is it going to be non-title?

You can make knockouts 5 out of UFC 71.

i love how people now are saying i told you so when a few weeks or even a few days ago the same people were saying that chuck was the greates thing in the ufc.well he lost but that dont mean that he is out.i give jackson mad props for what he did.now some are saying chuck should hang it up?are you high?he has many years of mma in him.he will be back and he will fight for the LHC again. will he win?dont know but he will make it back to the top of the ufc ranks.so before you say hes done and say he should hang it up just look at the ufc HWC a 43 year old and ask yourself “should he hang it up?”i think not.

Rampage said he would whoop chuck’s ass and he did.

Greatest thing about this sport right now is that you have NO idea what is going to happen. I like Lidell because he’s understated and humble - but I give huge credit to Rampage, who is compelling in his own right because of his enthusiasm (his “time for some black on black crime” line from his last fight might be the funniest post-fight comment of all time). Last night wasn’t about luck - Chuck made a classic boxing mistake of overextending and got caught. Only a skilled fighter can capitalize… I thought the rest of the night was superb as well - Jardine’s arrogance was palpable - and costly. You simply do not enter the arena with that attitude; tho I must say I did not like Alexander’s standing over him after the stoppage - a big part of this sport’s appeal is the respect the fighters have for one another. Can’t wait to see if Alexander’s for real… Congrats to the UFC for another fantastic night. For me it’s not about “either or” with boxing and MMA - I like the fight game in general. But there’s no denying that nights like last night - excitement in every fight, upsets, devastating knockouts, non-stop action - are more often found in the UFC.

Rampage had Chuck’s number because a) he was patient b) He fought with his hands up to defend his face c) Chuck fought with his hands down by his waist. When you throw a body shot with one hand, you use the other to defend your face. If Chuck had done that, the fight would have gone past 1:53.

It was an exciting night. I know Chuck got caught, but it was deffinitely stopped way to quick. I think 3 more punches to the dome and it should have been stopped. I dont think he was ever knocked out. Congratulations to Rampage!

I’m not gonna talk shit and say the “I told you so” speech but allow me to put this “upset” in perspective.

This is an upset in media terms ONLY. Anyone with a nonbias opinion and even intermediate knowledge of the sport knew that this was not really an upset and actually saw this conclusion coming be it first round or fifth round. As stated before on this site their styles and their opposition determined the outcome of this fight LONG before they stepped in the ring.

Rampage got the raw end of media bashing leading up to this fight with people only talking bout how he lost two Silva and Shogun after beating Chuck but no one wanted to mention that at that time Shogun and Silva were arguably the two best 205′ers in the world one, two in many peoples book and not only did Rampage go to war with Silva but he fought with broke ribs against Shogun. Everyone made it sound like the cage was gonna be some kind of new thing for Rampage but hey he fought Lindland in a cage before coming to UFC so that wasn’t a factor. Then everyone made it sound like some how Rampage had not become a better fighter since then, when Rampage himself stated that he used to not focus in training and that it effected his cardio and what not and when he fought Lindland that was the beginning of him “taking his career serious” and he came in EXCELLENT shape for every fight since then. He added leg kicks to his game and even improved on his ground game and ability to cut the cage off. Once again though his loses came at the hands of two of the best strikers in the world.

Chuck was made to look like a monster in the media lead up. Rightfully so in the fact that he has indeed won seven straight and what not. But lets look deeper. Vitor Belfort went toe to toe with Chuck and had it not been for Chuck flooring him in the final round that decision may have been closer than it turned out to be but the point of that fight was that Chuck couldn’t close the show against a bonafide striker. The most impressive win that Chuck had over a striker was in 2003 against Allister Overeem and after that he met a better striker in Rampage. Since then Chuck has been matched up against some of the best in UFC but unfortunate for him those best have all been primarily wrestlers and BJJ fighters. Chuck is a master at keeping the fight on its feet so why is it hyped up so much that he was able to beat Jermey Horn, Babalu and Tito (who trained with Chuck and who Frank Shamrock said before the first fight that Tito’s problem was that he is deathly afraid of being hit in the head and anyone who has trained with Tito knows this. Chuck even said it in the lead up to their fights). Vernon White is not even known as a good striker and Randy Couture is a warrior but the fact that he was able to out strike Chuck was something that as a pure striker Chuck should be ashamed of in the same way that Cro Cop should be ashamed of his last loss. Its not Chucks fault the competition that he had to fight in UFC he fought and beat whoever they put in front of him but it should not go with out saying that there was a time when Rich Franklin wanted to move up to 205 (shortly after fighting Ken Shamrock) and Dana White stopped that and convinced him to stay at middleweight because at that time Dana was marketing UFC with Matt Hughes, Rich Franklin and Chuck Liddell as the faces of his brand and he wanted all of them to be champs in their weight classes.

For big money Dana was willing to feed Chuck to the lions but only for big money which is why he didn’t match Chuck up against any other strikers who could create a bad night for his cash cow. Enter Rampage who himself said he was rusty and Dana in typical Vince McMahon fashion talked shit like “Tune up you dont need no fucking tune up, you already beat Chuck” what Dana was looking for was to catch an unprepared Rampage for Chuck to beat and set up a rubber match. HOWEVER in Dana’s mind he knew that even if Rampage won that Rampage is a guy who can market the UFC brand and take it on the road to talk shows everywhere and be funny and engaging to disarm the non MMA fan of their stereotypes of MMA fighters. Very Don King’ish of Dana.

Fight night comes and I am not sure how many of you guys on this board have ever fought in boxing or MMA but I will tell you this from expereince. A fighter knows when he looks into the eyes of the man across from him before the first bell, he can tell if that man is having second thoughts about his ability to win that fight. Chuck had second thoughts right before that bell and really I think that even the Ref saw it which is why Big John specifically says to Rampage are you ready but then looks to chuck and says “CHUCK…Are you Ready”

Fans tend to smooth over the obvious flaws that can lead to a loss for their man so they forgot the fact that Chuck throws looping shots and that Rampage had added a world class boxing trainer to his camp and had great boxing technique. They forgot the fact that Chuck when looping the left hook almost ALWAYS leaves his right down and open for counter ala Roy Jones Jr. They forgot the fact that Chuck hadn’t fought a legit striker in years and that was apparent by how tentative he was when the fight started and he was on his bike better than Lance Armstrong and when he did engage its like he was Tito Ortiz scared to get hit in the head so he engaged the action with a fear of being beat to the punch. When Rampage stopped in mid ring and put his hands up like “What the fuck is up?” I told everyone in the room that if Chuck bites the fight would be over quick and sho nuff Chuck bit cause he wasn’t gonna let Rampage make him look like he was a punk.

The conversation after the fight between Dana White and Chuck Liddell probably sounded similar to that of Mick and Rocky in Rocky 3 when Mick told Rocky that the guys they had matched him up against were not “bums” but were guys who’s strengths didn’t out weigh Rocky’s weaknesses and that the reason why Mick felt that Rocky would lose to Clubber Lang is because Rocky hadn’t fought with the eye of the tiger in years and that he (Clubber) was hungry in the way that Rocky used to be but that Rocky had already become soft from being Champ for so long. Rampage is as hungry now as Chuck was back when he first became champ. Chuck became complacent and his prefight talk proved it with his belief that all he had to do was throw punches and one will land and knock out Rampage.

Wow, what a right and GnP. No questionable stoppage, no lucky punch……UFC is the shizznit, late 06 and 07 has been a great

[quote comment=”66452″]It was an exciting night. I know Chuck got caught, but it was deffinitely stopped way to quick. I think 3 more punches to the dome and it should have been stopped. I dont think he was ever knocked out. Congratulations to Rampage![/quote]
??? Liddell was out cold. When you see his right hand fall to the canvas when he was on his back, he was out. The next punch woke him back up, and he acted like he didnt know why it was stopped. This is VERY common in MMA. Most recent event I can think of was Tito v Shamcrock II. Ken popped up and started prancing around calling it all bullshit, but the replay showed he was out, then got woken up by another punch.

[quote comment=”66211″]I told you so..I called from the first day..till showtime. I loved it..great overrall was UFC71..I’m happy for Rampage..Chuck is a stud regardless of this out come. I just knew..that gut feeling Chuck was going to lose this fight..He has not fought a guy like rampage in recent times. If they fight again it would be the same result..he’ll have stars in his eye’s again..Like Tito with him..MMA/UFC the sky’s the limit.[/quote]
i love the i told you do guys. hey newbie… half the guys on this site picked rampage

[quote comment=”66457″][quote comment=”66452″]It was an exciting night. I know Chuck got caught, but it was deffinitely stopped way to quick. I think 3 more punches to the dome and it should have been stopped. I dont think he was ever knocked out. Congratulations to Rampage![/quote]
??? Liddell was out cold. When you see his right hand fall to the canvas when he was on his back, he was out. The next punch woke him back up, and he acted like he didnt know why it was stopped. This is VERY common in MMA. Most recent event I can think of was Tito v Shamcrock II. Ken popped up and started prancing around calling it all bullshit, but the replay showed he was out, then got woken up by another punch.[/quote]
OUT COLD!

[quote comment=”66462″][quote comment=”66211″]I told you so..I called from the first day..till showtime. I loved it..great overrall was UFC71..I’m happy for Rampage..Chuck is a stud regardless of this out come. I just knew..that gut feeling Chuck was going to lose this fight..He has not fought a guy like rampage in recent times. If they fight again it would be the same result..he’ll have stars in his eye’s again..Like Tito with him..MMA/UFC the sky’s the limit.[/quote]
i love the i told you do guys. hey newbie… half the guys on this site picked rampage[/quote]
i meant the “i told you so” guys

[quote post=”2233″]i love the i told you do guys. hey newbie… half the guys on this site picked rampage [/quote]
Did anyone see the voting on this fight on TV? It was like 63-68% for Liddell? The UFC hype machine really does work.

[quote comment=”66437″]Henderson! They’re all screwed, drop some weight or put some weight on, cause 205 just got dominated.

If Rampage beats Hendo or viceversa does that make that person the Undisputed Light Heavy Weight Champion of the World for real for real? or is it going to be non-title?

You can make knockouts 5 out of UFC 71.[/quote]
dont get me wrong. i love hendo but he got dominated vs wandy the first time around, then beat a sick wandy the second. hes a bad, bad man, but i really think the mma is getting way to good and it will be really hard for anyone to win even 3-4 fights in a row vs top competition

[quote comment=”66470″][quote post=”2233″]i love the i told you do guys. hey newbie… half the guys on this site picked rampage [/quote]
Did anyone see the voting on this fight on TV? It was like 63-68% for Liddell? The UFC hype machine really does work.[/quote]
yeah. we all laughed at that. if vegas gave me 2 to 1 odds on that fight they might have gone bankrupt

[quote comment=”66429″]I’ve come to the realization that what ever sport have a large audience that there is monet to be made from all angles and one of them is betting. That fight looked fixed! These are professional fighters. come on that did’nt even look like a solid punch. It was a bad night for the ufc!![/quote]
pretty funny dude
watch the punch again

[quote comment=”66349″]im curious as to why so many people are saying rampage has chucks number. im not taking it away from him that he won, but putting ur head down and throwing a blind right that lands doesnt give u somebody’s “number”.[/quote]

You may wanna watch the replay again.. It was a planned counter to Chucks shot.. This wasn’t an Antonio Tarver vs Roy Jones KO situation because Rampages eyes were wide open and he blocked the body shot just to counter with the hook… Nothing lucky about that. go to Sherdog and hear the interview with Chucks trainer where he said that they had told chuck to never throw a body shot from that far out

Hey, I really like Chuck, but he did not look in shape. His belly had gone soft and was bloated. He was not in the trim he needed to be in. He needs to show the fans that he has variety in offense, can take close in power attacks. He made a mistake….a wild powerful punch needs a glove or thin air in the way, not a dropped guard. Rampage did not really get a fight, was in great physical shape with a lot of training confidence, and is punching for glory. I do believe UFC does not have much talent depth and needs stories to add script around. That is fine. Let Chuck get in shape, he is already great but let him get his fight strategy fixed to handle Rampage intensity so we don’t get a replay. He can sell PPV if he gets going again and is matched with some of the incoming talent. Great fight Rampage, Great conditioning.

[quote comment=”66484″][quote comment=”66349″]im curious as to why so many people are saying rampage has chucks number. im not taking it away from him that he won, but putting ur head down and throwing a blind right that lands doesnt give u somebody’s “number”.[/quote]

You may wanna watch the replay again.. It was a planned counter to Chucks shot.. This wasn’t an Antonio Tarver vs Roy Jones KO situation because Rampages eyes were wide open and he blocked the body shot just to counter with the hook… Nothing lucky about that. go to Sherdog and hear the interview with Chucks trainer where he said that they had told chuck to never throw a body shot from that far out[/quote]
Chuck has thrown that liver shot left hook for 10 years. You think Jaunito didnt train Page for that counter? Yeah, it was all luck…
Good response B Tommy, btw. And good point on Hackleman’s warning.

Go over to UFC.com and watch the post fight presser. Quinton is as funny as ever.
On Matt Lindland, “That dude is funky, he smells like two weeks. I dont know how he has any kids.”

i think chucks next fight should be with shogun

Chuck got caught doing something stupid that I’m sure he gets away with when he fights less experienced or skilled opponents.

[quote post=”2233″]Did anyone else notice Denis Kang at a UFC event? I realize he was cornering, but still… Man they need to sign that guy. He has no contract anywhere.[/quote]

Really? Then what the hell is Dana “its good to be” White waiting for? I dont know many details about Kang other than he is a top tier fighter but that alone means he should be on the big stage.

[quote post=”2233″]I feel queesy…Chuck is my Guy, I like Rampage and if anyone beat him, Rampaga would be the only guy I’d be cool with. I was pulling hard for Chuck but right from the start you sensed Rampage was in his head from the last fight. I just feel sick that it ended so pathetically. I think Chuck is the better fighter( opinion..because NOW especially you cannot make that claim with Rampage 2-0 on Chuck) but I think if they fought completely isolated from the mental edge Rampage owns with his forst fight….I think CHuck would’ve done what he does to Randleman. I just think sadly Rampage has Chuck like Chuck has Tito. I’d still like to see a III….only because Chuck deserves a chance to go out better than that. That SUCKED! Otherwise I say Chuck should take on Houston Alexander maybe…after his impressive job on Jardine. [/quote]

Alexander is going to be a threat to anyone at 205. He’s agressive, has two jackhammers for fists and he seems to be able to take a punch. He was lifting Jardine off the ground with those uppercuts.

Bizarro T, thanks for that explanation on why Page was expected to win because if you had’nt, I would’ve for sure. Too many people are talking out of their asses without any real back history. I’m glad you set them straight. Let’s cross our fingers & hope they read the whole thing like I did.

Anyone willing to hop on the UFC upset bandwagon with me and pick Okami over Franklin?

OK heres the senario, Cotour loses to GG and drops weight to take on Rampage… Possible???

Now that there are so many biggies around Cotour really has to retire or reduce weight.

Chuck will probably fight Wanderla Silva that would make sense. It would make for a great cross over with pride…

[quote comment=”66210″][quote comment=”66202″]WOW What a night! Talk about year of the underdogs in the UFC.

Underdog? If you know anything about MMA, (which with this statement means that you don’t) you would know that this was not an upset. Rampage has been in knock out drag out wars, Chuck has not so his chin was suspect. Untested. Until Now. haha[/quote]

Who was the favorite to win? I think if you look at the odds or the fight polls the UNDERDOGS (Least Favored to WIN) won the following fights:
Lidell VS Jackson- Winner-Jackson(Underdog)
GSP VS Serra - Winner-Serra(Underdog)
Silvia vs Couture-Winner Couture(may have been an underdog to some..)
Cro Cop VS Gonzales-Winner Gonzales (UNDERDOG)

We can add more to that list from last nights card…How about the Jardine VS Alexander Fight? I think Jardine was favored big time….not many people thought he would get his feet lifted off the ground like that from Upper cuts delivered by Alexander (Underdog)
Starnes Vs Leben-Leben was favored to win his fight…didn’t he loose too?

So maybe you should retract your statement unless someone changed the dictionary meaning of “UNDERDOG”

Thanks “just1fix”

[quote post=”2233″]dont get me wrong. i love hendo but he got dominated vs wandy the first time around, then beat a sick wandy the second. hes a bad, bad man, but i really think the mma is getting way to good and it will be really hard for anyone to win even 3-4 fights in a row vs top competition [/quote]

Ya I think the days where champs defend the belt for 7-9 times is long gone.

I personally thought Chuck was going to win, I’m a big Rampage fan. I’ve liked him since he debuted in Pride against Sakuraba! But I was one of the majority that felt the odds were in Liddell’s favor…WHAP!!!! I’m wrong. Liddell’s beaten on pretty much everybody, He had only a few good matchups left had he won. Rampage is (not to the die hards) A new face in the UFC wich is exciting when he take’s the gold!!!

Didn’t Denis Kang break his hand during his last win back in March?

Anyway, UFC 71 was full of excitement - the only surprise for me was to see Jardine get “punished” so badly. I would have liked to have seen Chuck last a few more rounds, but it was what it was… not an Upset, but an Awakening for many…

[quote comment=”66452″]It was an exciting night. I know Chuck got caught, but it was deffinitely stopped way to quick. I think 3 more punches to the dome and it should have been stopped. I dont think he was ever knocked out. Congratulations to Rampage![/quote]

I think that you are missing the point of a stoppage. You are probably correct in saying “I dont think he (Chuck)was ever knocked out” if you mean unconscious, but “Big John” isn’t in the Octagon to allow that to happen. Fights should be stopped before fighters suffer serious injuries, which is what was likely to happen with Chuck prone on his back, arms outstretched, with the man known as Rampage dropping viscious, undefended punches and elbows down on his face. A different referee would have let it go a little longer, I believe, but the stoppage was legit. We all saw Chuck’s eyes when McCarthy saved him; he didn’t know where he was, and even asked his corner “What happened?” when he made it to his stool.

[quote comment=”66210″][quote comment=”66202″]WOW What a night! Talk about year of the underdogs in the UFC.

Underdog? If you know anything about MMA, (which with this statement means that you don’t) you would know that this was not an upset. Rampage has been in knock out drag out wars, Chuck has not so his chin was suspect. Untested. Until Now. haha[/quote]

Chuck was the champion, as well as the betting line FAVORITE at (-180). Rampage was the challenger, and even though he had a victory over Chuck under his belt, was the betting line UNDERDOG at( 150). Not an UNDERDOG like Gonzaga was an UNDERDOG ( 450), but UNDERDOG nonetheless.

[quote comment=”66237″]Most Def a crazy night. I really hope hendo doesn’t get the next title shot because UFC is starting to get lame with all these guys coming from Pride and automatically getting title shots after like one fight. Whatever