I missed the episode because of work, but I couldnt help ruining it and finding out what happened. It really seems to me that they should have had two weight classes here. Only half of the fighters there are really worth watching fight. The other half just couldnt hang with them. I predict that no one is able to hang with Joe.

thats not true, diaz can wiman can i think manny could and more than likely gray i didnt see any stand up other than his one punch

i tried to send this as a message but it wouldnt let me

http://www.canadastarboxing.com/cstar-barnetwork.htm

Here’s a link to all the cities and locations in each province showing the fights for all the Canadian fans. The list is always expanding and has all the upcoming UFCs listed, so its good to have in the future.

we havent see this episode in ireland yet sounds crazy , is it just me or does tuf5 look like its the dana white show, between gabe ,andy wang and the above mentioned , dana has become the best fighter ,stupid fools v dana im the boss white and he hasnt lost yet ,where are the real ultimate fighters!!!

There was no sucker punch to me and all of them did deserve to get the boot. It was kinda dumb for Dana to allow young fighters all that alcohol and just let the losers sit around like that. What did they think would happen?

Man law is man law though

I think the elbow was a blunder on Joe’s part, especially after just being warned about hitting in the back of the head. That being said the first round tells the complete story about who the better fighter was that day. Joe stuck to his game plan as always. He brought Cole to his corner and for most of the fight
all you could hear was BJ shouting advice. That is smart on Joe’s part. I’m sure there were moments that Cole felt like he was fighting multiple opponents. Cole brought his fight and tried to submit Joe every chance he got. He couldn’t do it. In the midst of all those attempts Joe hit him with some of hardest, fastest elbows that I have ever seen. After planting one of them solidly Cole had a “What the fuck truck just hit me look”. As described he was covering up at the end, Cole was trying to escape punches by hiding his face. The bell saved him. I’m convinced that Cole knew he was on his way to another meet and greet with Joe’s elbow and was relieved that it offered him an excuse for losing. Cole ran away from Joe into the referee, that was comical. Cole was defeated by legitimate elbows and he should go away quietly and respectfully and give Joe his credit. I was happy to see Joe’s elbow is healed from the last fight. Joe “The Giant Killer” stands alone when all the dust clears at the end.

MY take on the “backyard Brawl” is that when you give young guys alcohol, and they happen to be fighters, you are going to get sparks. I thought Noah showed some week areas for Marlon.

As for the fight, I was not too suprised that Cole was good, and if anything was stylistically is the kind of person to give Joe trouble. Joe loves to ground and pound with heavy bombs, and with Cole being so long legged, it would naturally give him a hard time. I hate that Cole got hit with the Illegal blow, but in reality I think that Joe would have won any way. I think that this fight will happen down the road, and it will end with the same outcome, but without a illegal blow.

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Chris Valentine

It was a good fight, but I thought Joe had demonstrated that he was the better fighter. Cole looked cooked by the end of the first round.

Has anybody seen any instance - sparring, street fight, sanctioned fight - where Noah is actually got the better of his opponent? Every time we see him he’s getting his butt kicked.

good job by dana but i get the feeling that dana would have quite happily told all of them to leave

he cares more about promotin his sport/business in the right light than 16 no name fighters

This season blows so far. The best matchup is Joe vs. Manny or one of them vs Matt Wiman. The rest of the guys suck.

[quote comment=”64451″]This season blows so far. The best matchup is Joe vs. Manny or one of them vs Matt Wiman. The rest of the guys suck.[/quote]

I still want to see Nate Vs Joe, I think Joe will win, but I will root for Nate.

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Chris Valentine

Cole did surprise me as well. However, Joe was defending all of the submission attempts and he was also listening to his corners advice. I think if the Elbow never happened then Joe would have won by decision. I don’t think he would have stopped him, but he would have still won.

I thought it was a pretty comedic episode. With marlon and noah what a joke lol. I agree with Dana these guys need to grow up someone has a few to much to drink and starts runnin off the mouth and the sober ones egg it on. You see this kind of behavior at graduation parties when your 18 with kids who all think there cock of the rock. These guys need to learn how to control themselves when they drink. Acting like a bunch of kids getting drunk for the first time. And Marlon just standing there with his chin out saying hit me. Anyone else would have either walked away or knocked his block clean off.I guess it was slightly amusing if anything. As far as the fight went with Joe and cole. Cole faired better than i thought he would in the first round and i know everyone says that Joe would have won without the foul but i think it made a difference for sure. Im not saying joe wouldnt have won either way but cole was throwing up submission attempt after submission attempt so joe might have gotten caught at some point. Although it seemed Cole was really always just trying for a Triangle leg choke and joe wasnt gonna get caught in that. So i guess rightfully so that joe won cole had his chance in the first round to choke him out had his hooks in and everything but still couldnt capatilize. So who’s to say he could have kept him in a triangle if he caught him in it anyway.

Joe dominated the fight after the first minute. Even before the elbow, Cole was virtually finished. I think Lauzon vs. Diaz will be the final.

I called Joe to win it all..and his opponent should be Nate..that would make for a great final. I taught the picks were humorious and accurate..The hammer being kept by Jens ultimatly caused it to smack his own team on the thumb. Pulver 5 BJ 3..going into the playoffs..no matter which way you would of drew it up..One match would of been Yellow vs Yellow..I thought Joe would get the W..but I was surprised with Cole overrall in the first round..You saw that Joe was having problems on the ground..i think in the second round regardless of the elbow Joe would of won..but that elbow still not cool, cause now we won’t know ” what if “..bottom line I felt it was a good fight by both fighters..looking forward more to the Manny vs Matt fight coming up.

cole is legit… thats for sure

i got nate over corey with some crazy submission (although he could just outbox the shit out of him, or leg kick him to death)

manny over wiman

gray takes down martinez and pounds the hell out of him.

manny, wiman, gray, nate, joe, and cole could all turn out to be great fighters. wiman looked decent agains spencer fisher for a while. should be good from here on out

[quote comment=”64507″] I think Lauzon vs. Diaz will be the final.[/quote] Why do you think Dana picked Nate to fight Corey, nothing against Corey, he’s a great fighter but well under experienced in comparison to nate. Dana White is making sure that the fighters he wants to see in the finals make it to the finals. He’s pampering the fights to his benifit. I like the fact that BJ and Dana wrote the same matchups, Jens objected, and then Dana goes out and tells the fighters that “I got together with your coaches and we have decided on these fights”. The man is all politics and money and to be quite honest I really don’t think I’ll be watching TUF anymore. I’m not trying to take away anything Dana has done for the UFC and the sport of MMA but I honestly feel he will do anything for money and I really have lost all respect for the guy.

That’s true about BJ.
He is definitley on top of his game when he’s in the corner.
I didn’t hear a single word from Pulver, except “take your time” and “you can do it”

[quote post=”2210″]The man is all politics and money and to be quite honest I really don’t think I’ll be watching TUF anymore. I’m not trying to take away anything Dana has done for the UFC and the sport of MMA but I honestly feel he will do anything for money and I really have lost all respect for the guy.[/quote]

Dana White during yesterday’s conference call:
- ‘Boxing has a lot of problems, more than one. They have a ton of problems. It is all about the money in boxing. Every decision and everything they do is about money. I don’t talk about money, who gives a shit what the financials of how much everyone is making… I want to talk about the next fight. The problem with sports today is everyone talks about money. I don’t want to talk about money, I want to talk about the fights. We saw something in this sport and the fighters that was amazing and if we got it to the mainstream, people would see it and love it. People come because they are passionate about it.’

Joker, someone had to create brackets for the Qs and Semis. And even if you polled 20 MMA writers and asked them to rank the guys 1-8, you would still get close to these match ups. Surely, Diaz, Wiman, Gray and Joe are 1-4, so who cares about what order 5-8 are. This concept gets you the best Semis possible and then the best Finale bout.

I agree wit MoreThanUFC, no matter which way you cut..but you don’t want to see a Joe vs Nate in the Q’s.. I want to see that in the final.

[quote comment=”64550″][quote comment=”64507″] I think Lauzon vs. Diaz will be the final.[/quote] Why do you think Dana picked Nate to fight Corey, nothing against Corey, he’s a great fighter but well under experienced in comparison to nate. Dana White is making sure that the fighters he wants to see in the finals make it to the finals. He’s pampering the fights to his benifit. I like the fact that BJ and Dana wrote the same matchups, Jens objected, and then Dana goes out and tells the fighters that “I got together with your coaches and we have decided on these fights”. The man is all politics and money and to be quite honest I really don’t think I’ll be watching TUF anymore. I’m not trying to take away anything Dana has done for the UFC and the sport of MMA but I honestly feel he will do anything for money and I really have lost all respect for the guy.[/quote]

u got to make the most entertaining bouts for semi’s and the finals.. why would u put the best two guys against each other in the quarterfinals.. dana is right, hes trying to make it the best he can for the show. I dont know how u lost respect for him. These matches are goin to be good. Dont watch, but ur goin to miss out.

I think it’s safe to assume that the rules set out for these guys include ‘no fighting in the house’. All three of the guys deserved to be booted and Marlon and Noah share equal responsibility for starting the fight.

Regarding the illegal elbow. I think Lauzon was just getting frustrated that he was not able to gain a good position on Cole. Cole was doing a good job of avoiding the ground and pound.

[quote comment=”64276″]thats not true, diaz can wiman can i think manny could and more than likely gray i didnt see any stand up other than his one punch[/quote]
Don’t drink and blog dude.

If you fight a Ju-jitsu guy who throws different submissions from every position, unless knock him out, you’ll get caught eventually unless you know what you’re doing. If Cole wasn’t tired, which I don’t think he was, he would have eventually caught Joe.

I think Joe should have lost due to disqualification, and he would lose by disqualification if he had done the same thing to Jens Pulver or some other UFC star. How many warnings did he recieve AFTER the elbow? 4 or 5?

I’m not sure I understand why they provide booze and junk food at the house. I guess they put the temptation there and see who is going to hang themselves with it (brawlers, fatboy Gabe). Maybe they’ll drop the alcohol soon in favor of a big bong so everyone will mellow out after training.

[quote comment=”64467″]Cole did surprise me as well. However, Joe was defending all of the submission attempts and he was also listening to his corners advice. I think if the Elbow never happened then Joe would have won by decision. I don’t think he would have stopped him, but he would have still won.[/quote]
The first round looked pretty even to me. Joe was on top and did land some elbows but Cole was working from the bottom and was close on some of those tries. I was impressed with Cole. I really hope we see more of him after TUF5 is over.

[quote comment=”64507″]Joe dominated the fight after the first minute. Even before the elbow, Cole was virtually finished. I think Lauzon vs. Diaz will be the final.[/quote]
Within the first minute Lauzon was almost choked out and even though he had top position, he was fighting off submission attempts more often than throwing bombs. Lauzon seemed to have the momentum going into the second but it was still pretty close in my book. Had Cole really been able to continue after the illegal blow, he might have won the second due to the deduction and they might have gone three.

[quote comment=”64595″]If you fight a Ju-jitsu guy who throws different submissions from every position, unless knock him out, you’ll get caught eventually unless you know what you’re doing. If Cole wasn’t tired, which I don’t think he was, he would have eventually caught Joe.
quote]

This is by no means true, especially when the guy going for submissions is gassed, and GNP’er is bringing high intensity. This is not a knock on Cole–he’s only been doing MMA for a few years. As fights go longer, and guys get tired and start sweat(slippery) those arm bars extremely difficult to pull off with gloves and no gi.

[quote comment=”64596″]I’m not sure I understand why they provide booze and junk food at the house. I guess they put the temptation there and see who is going to hang themselves with it (brawlers, fatboy Gabe). Maybe they’ll drop the alcohol soon in favor of a big bong so everyone will mellow out after training.[/quote]

Yeah i dont understand it either lol but yeah thats hilarious maybe it would be good for them to chill em out after training but then they would get the munchies and be way overweight lol.

Dana White said it himself on the season’s 1st episode: “These lightweights are crazy motherfuckers. I’m glad I’m not staying in that house.” After watching last night’s episode, I couldn’t have agreed with him more.

As for Joe and Cole, yeah it certainly sucks the way it ended and I’m certain that elbow was unintentional. But in all honesty, I think Joe would’ve won that fight by decision because he clearly dominated the 1st round, and if he didn’t land that elbow, he would’ve taken the 2nd round as well.

Predictions for next week’s fight:
Gray is going to win becasuse:
1.) He is getting coached by Couture
2.) Brandon acts like a toolbag to Jens so he deserves to lose.

“If you fight a Ju-jitsu guy who throws different submissions from every position, unless knock him out, you’ll get caught eventually unless you know what you’re doing. If Cole wasn’t tired, which I don’t think he was, he would have eventually caught Joe.”

Man, the server’s wacked out again. Quote Select Text isnt working and its taking 40 secs for a page to load.
Anyway, Joe Lauzon IS a BJJ guy. I aint putting the vid up again, but most of us here who’ve seen it, didnt think Joe was gonna get caught.
Someone said that after the elbow, he was warned 4-5 times. No, he was reminded 4-5 times. He never once after that, hit him in the back of the head. If fact, he showed great octagon control/presence and mental strength in pulling his punches and avoiding it.
But does it really matter? Cole has a future in the UFC, no doubt, you could tell Dana liked the kid. J-Lau was coming out on top either way. Watching him and Diaz are like watching men beat up children.

Btw, Nathan Diaz vs Hermes Franca. Something tells me that in 6-12 months, this fight ends much earlier.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=sCrsjwSRtNI

Winning the whole thing would be great. Let’s say Lauzon ends up winning it all. That will put him ahead of the others but most of these guys are going to get spots on the undercard in upcoming events anyway. All these guys have a long way to go before they will be top contenders.

[quote post=”2210″]All these guys have a long way to go before they will be top contenders. [/quote]
2 more fights and J-Lau is there.
BTW, I’m really starting to like Jens from this show. I dont like most MFS fighters, but this dude tells it like it is. Penn is coming off better also. Next season, we get Rich Hughes vs Rick Serra. Hope the fighters actually learn something between the ego clashes.

Hey MTUFC, mail me at gabbana - at - rawmode.org (sorry UFCmania, don’t know how else to get in touch with him, its my last post, promised). Got an invitation spare to a cool resource.

[quote comment=”64634″][quote post=”2210″]All these guys have a long way to go before they will be top contenders. [/quote]
2 more fights and J-Lau is there.
BTW, I’m really starting to like Jens from this show. I dont like most MFS fighters, but this dude tells it like it is. Penn is coming off better also. Next season, we get Rich Hughes vs Rick Serra. Hope the fighters actually learn something between the ego clashes.[/quote]
Like the coaches’ names, perhaps?

I gotta say that the fight between Joe and Cole was certainly made out to be close by Dana. truth be told, aside from the first 25 seconds, Joe was dishing out punishment and maintained octagon control for the entire first round. Granted Cole was looking to obtain a submission, but trying and actually locking one in are two different things. It was unfortunate that Cole was hit with that elbow to the back of the head, but in no way can you honestly say Cole would have certainly won that fight. He would have had to win the second round decisively just to get to a thrid overtime round. From the looks of it, Joe was winning round2 easily.

My predictions are as follows
Joe vs. Cole - Joe won
Gray vs. Brandan - Gray easily via gound and pound
Nate vs. Corey - Nate via submission
Matt vs. Manny - Matt via decision

I seriously think Gray Maynard has a great chance to win the whole thing. Him and Joe are the clear class of the show with Nate and Matt very close behind.

[quote comment=”64638″][quote comment=”64634″][quote post=”2210″]All these guys have a long way to go before they will be top contenders. [/quote]
2 more fights and J-Lau is there.
BTW, I’m really starting to like Jens from this show. I dont like most MFS fighters, but this dude tells it like it is. Penn is coming off better also. Next season, we get Rich Hughes vs Rick Serra. Hope the fighters actually learn something between the ego clashes.[/quote]
Like the coaches’ names, perhaps?[/quote]
Richard=Rich=Rick= two DICKS. Get it?

I watched the show last night (being sick in bed, TV is becoming my best friend… along with Jell-O.) I was right on with Dana, those guys took MMA back 10 years. Im sure he doesnt want anymore young adults on his shows.

As far as the fight, Lauzon caught Miller atleast 3 times straight in the back of the head. Miller made the noble choice, but obviously it wasnt the right one.

[quote comment=”64647″][quote comment=”64638″][quote comment=”64634″][quote post=”2210″]All these guys have a long way to go before they will be top contenders. [/quote]
2 more fights and J-Lau is there.
BTW, I’m really starting to like Jens from this show. I dont like most MFS fighters, but this dude tells it like it is. Penn is coming off better also. Next season, we get Rich Hughes vs Rick Serra. Hope the fighters actually learn something between the ego clashes.[/quote]
Like the coaches’ names, perhaps?[/quote]
Richard=Rich=Rick= two DICKS. Get it?[/quote]
Ah. I didn’t make that leap.

[/quote]Richard=Rich=Rick= two DICKS. Get it?[/quote]

I get it…very nice. Thanks for your comments on my post above and props to longislandguy also. I do realize that you want your best matchups in the Finals, it makes sense and it makes for the most entertaining fights during the finale. I get wrapped into the drama and I really wish I could see what really happens in that house rather than what is aired on TV. I guess I’m just a little dissapointed with this season of TUF. I liked it more with the two weight classes. Don’t let me fool you, I’m too much of a fan not to watch the show, I just wished the shows resembled more of the first 2 seasons rather than the last 2 seasons.

[quote comment=”64663″]I watched the show last night (being sick in bed, TV is becoming my best friend… along with Jell-O.) I was right on with Dana, those guys took MMA back 10 years. Im sure he doesnt want anymore young adults on his shows.

As far as the fight, Lauzon caught Miller atleast 3 times straight in the back of the head. Miller made the noble choice, but obviously it wasnt the right one.[/quote]

Hey man, wondering where you been. Hope you heal up and come back blogging better than ever. You dont have a staph infection do you? j/k.
Hope you get better soon. The summer flu season they say is gonna be nasty this year.

[quote comment=”64614″]”If you fight a Ju-jitsu guy who throws different submissions from every position, unless knock him out, you’ll get caught eventually unless you know what you’re doing. If Cole wasn’t tired, which I don’t think he was, he would have eventually caught Joe.”

Man, the server’s wacked out again. Quote Select Text isnt working and its taking 40 secs for a page to load.
Anyway, Joe Lauzon IS a BJJ guy. I aint putting the vid up again, but most of us here who’ve seen it, didnt think Joe was gonna get caught.
Someone said that after the elbow, he was warned 4-5 times. No, he was reminded 4-5 times. He never once after that, hit him in the back of the head. If fact, he showed great octagon control/presence and mental strength in pulling his punches and avoiding it.
But does it really matter? Cole has a future in the UFC, no doubt, you could tell Dana liked the kid. J-Lau was coming out on top either way. Watching him and Diaz are like watching men beat up children.

Btw, Nathan Diaz vs Hermes Franca. Something tells me that in 6-12 months, this fight ends much earlier.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=sCrsjwSRtNI/quote

Again a well phrased comment. Oh and that video of Nate, I seen it before, but it is a good way to show people only exposed to TUF how good Nate really is. Oh and I am really interested in getting the Joe link again, I was going to bookmark it, but forgot, so if you get a chance to repost sometime, that would be great .:)

Later
Chris Valentine

Luppers….there are some young adults in each house though that the UFC is their dream..i think with the exception of chris leben in the first season, the only guys casuing shit are the ones with low amounts of fights, sub par records..the guys who dont really even have a chance at winning…the guys who have a chance at winning take it seriously and dont want to ruin their dreams by something stupid they do on a tv show…young fighters are the future, so before picking the cast, they should look at the fighters fights, there records and see who REALLY belongs there….the gap in talent, plus the alcohol is what makes some of the guys do stupid shit…doies this make sense to anyone but me??…
more competitive = fighters taken shit more seriously

The back yard brawl in its entirety sheds some new light on what happened, I was a little too quick to judge. Both Noah and street fighter were to blame for the fight and I didn’t know street fighter was drunk, not that been drunk is an excuse. Dana was right to kick those 3 guys off the show, it would have sent a poor message if he tolerated it. I thought Joe would do much better than he did and was surprised he almost got submitted within the first minute of the first round, fortunately he weathered the storm and won. Cole is a pretty smart guy too and knew his best chances of beating Joe was to strike first and he almost succeeded. Cole is better than I gave him credit for, I thought Joe would beat the crap out of him and he would start crying again. Sucks he got hit to the back of the head like that….bottom line, Joe got the win and hes moving on to the finals.

MTUFC, thanks… I got a lower intestine/colon infection. I havent been online for anything (seeing as at work.. thats all I do.) Thanks for the concern though man. Gonna try to get to the home PC a bit more.

[quote comment=”64677″]Luppers….there are some young adults in each house though that the UFC is their dream..i think with the exception of chris leben in the first season, the only guys casuing shit are the ones with low amounts of fights, sub par records..the guys who dont really even have a chance at winning…the guys who have a chance at winning take it seriously and dont want to ruin their dreams by something stupid they do on a tv show…young fighters are the future, so before picking the cast, they should look at the fighters fights, there records and see who REALLY belongs there….the gap in talent, plus the alcohol is what makes some of the guys do stupid shit…doies this make sense to anyone but me??…
more competitive = fighters taken shit more seriously[/quote]I can agree, but I dont think this seasons is about fighting as much as its about good TV. I think that something has changed in the last year, the focus on the TUF series is more reality TV than its fighting. Last season, simply put, there were FIGHTERS. Most of the fights were very good, lots of color outside the fight by Serra’s mouth, Shonies flare if you will… etc.

Bad analogy, but ummm… remember the Real World, in the begining it was people interacting with people. Now its just drinking, partying, hooking up… They are trying to idolize these people’s lives and bring reality TV fans in… thinking fight fans will already be there.

Lauzon dominated that butty last night. And the backyard fight was a bit disgraceful. MMA fighters dont need to show how bad they are. I hope i dont see them 3 guys in the mma again there garbage for the sport. I think It is Matt Wiman vs. Nate Diaz in the finale. N yes BJ Penn is going to break Jens’s arm. With D Arm BaaaaaaaaaaaaR!

id like to see Marlon “not tap” after being arm barred by Fedor

a joe vs. nate semifinal is a very very nice fight and gray vs. manny or wiman would be worthy as well…the manny/wiman fight should be the best of the quarters and the winner will be a very good test to gray, this season is shaping up nicely, i agree that there should have been two weight classes, these eight guys should have been the only ones invited to the show…

My problem with this Season of TUF was that I though throwing Joe Lauzon into the group really made him an overwhelming favorite. As Jens put it, he wasn’t knocked out by a bitch and while the rest of the cast showed some skill, Joe seems well ahead of the rest. Coped with the fact that a quarter of the cast are idiots (Sims, Wang, Ruediger, Thomas and Berube) I though the first half of the season is just filler.

Sad that Lauzon’s victory was tainted by that elbow, but even without it I foresaw Joe winning on the scorecard anyways. Cole would have probably had a chance against anyone but Lauzon so really he drew the short straw and it sucked to be him.

Getting powerslam in the concete 12 dollars, kicking someone in the face 90 dollars, trying to put someone in an armbar and a choke hold 110 dollar, bleeding in the back of the head 1 dollar. promoting the fight 16 dollars. Getting kick out the show priceless.

Cole was an impressive fighter. I can see he making waves in the future, but Joe is by far the more superior fighter. I knew this guy would dominate. I mean he took out Pulver. That was no fluke I was there live for that one. Joe looked good and plain and simple just beat him. I think that was 63. As for Corey/Nate fight. I could see why they were bothered. That fight could of been a better semi final fight or even a final. I’m going to say Nate over Corey. Final will be Joe/NAte

I think the semi will be Wiman vs Diaz

Joe and Diaz definently are on a a higher level than the rest. And most likely, I see them 2 in the finals. But Wiman ain’t bad either, its hard to tell cuz we only say him fight for like a minute. But other than that, it looked like Cole would have been closer to there level, think he will get a chance latter on, they always give the tuf guys fights in UFC winners or not.
Def Joe dominated, but Cole was throwing up submission attempt after attempt, so he didn’t get dominated nearly as bad as some say in my mind, but unfortuanatly for him, Joe also knows what he is doing extremely well on the ground

Who’s down for a Joe/Nate groundwar in the finale!!??

[quote post=”2210″]For the first time all season I understood what a good corner man BJ Penn is. At first he just sounds like a sideshow barker, but after really listening to him I realized he is on top of the fight every step of the way.[/quote]

Serious, BJ really is a really good coach, he jsut explains things great, (look at his site) and really knows what he is talkign about in every aspect of the game. In this fight, he called out everytime accuratly when Cole was gonna attempt the triangle, armbar, etc…

[quote comment=”65093″][quote post=”2210″]For the first time all season I understood what a good corner man BJ Penn is. At first he just sounds like a sideshow barker, but after really listening to him I realized he is on top of the fight every step of the way.[/quote]

Serious, BJ really is a really good coach, he jsut explains things great, (look at his site) and really knows what he is talkign about in every aspect of the game. In this fight, he called out everytime accuratly when Cole was gonna attempt the triangle, armbar, etc…[/quote]

Now that BJ has shed some of the excess baggage, you will really start to see his quailty as a coach. But no offense,some of the guys on his team downright sucked and had no place in the show.

If a fighter turns the back of his head towards an oncoming blow on purpose, is the blow still illegal?