It’s funny how he’s admits all this after he loses. In all of the pre fight clips you see him saying about Serra “This is the opportunity of his life so I have to train like never before, or something on those lines” so either he was lying then or just making excuses now
GSP really is one of the nicest guys. I could see how he would think he would beat Serra easily though, hell everyone did. But 2 weeks of training vs the MONTHS of Serra’s training aint gonna cut it with anyone. Oh well, let the past stay in the past. If his next opponent is Josh K., that is going to be a joke. Koscheck looked horribly scared against Diego and landed nothing but counter attacks. Plus GSP is gonna be a beast. Just be looking for brown stains in the back of Koshcheck’s shorts when he fights GSP.
GSP just took a step down to me. He was either a liar then or a liar now. Not defending Jim Lampley but he never said this ‘courage’ has never been show by mma fighters, he said boxers are light years ahead ‘with their hands’. Honestly, we get a semi pro boxer like Allesio we talk how good they are with their hands. Who in mma has ever been to the Olympics for boxing much less took home the gold. He was in fact on the defensive for boxing but he didn’t technically lie. So why do people have to change his words, to give themselves something to talk about?
[quote comment=”54033″]I hope GSP doesn’t start “fighting not to lose”. There are already too many fighters that are fighting not to lose.
Forget the judges - CLOSE THE SHOW!!!!![/quote]
i agree on this one. but it takes both fighters trying to win to make this happen. if one guy is fighting not to lose and the other is fighting just to survive, it can make for some pretty boring stuff.
In fact thinking about it, GSP was coming off an injury and didn’t fight in how long? Now he’s saying he didn’t bother to train for the fight, so the belt didn’t mean that much to him. How long did he just want to vacation with the belt? How does he go from saying he was in the best condition to the worst? He couldn’t have wanted it too bad if this is the case. Its as bad of a thing you can do in my mind, you said f the fans. Took off however long to rest from the injury then only train two weeks for the fight. Thats the how much he cared. GSP in fact loses two points with me, a KO of Kos will easily make up one of those points though.
I said when he beat Hughes that I wasnt happy because this guy is injured constantly and that he has no heart. So now he says if he was gonna face Hughes, we woulda pulled out. So that woulda been 2 fights in a row. EVERY FIGHTER IS INJURED WHEN THEY STEP IN THE CAGE! EVERY ONE! Find some heart GSP.
I said when he beat Hughes that I wasnt happy because this guy is injured constantly and that he has no heart. So now he says if he was gonna face Hughes, we woulda pulled out. So that woulda been 2 fights in a row. EVERY FIGHTER IS INJURED WHEN THEY STEP IN THE CAGE! EVERY ONE! Find some heart GSP.
It really doesen’t matter what he says! GSP will go ahead and prove what he says with a couple of left leg kicks to the side of any opponent’s head, Some good ol’ GnP and get the stoppage from the ref, if he didn’t get the KO already. GSP is arguably the best technical fighter in the world! GSP has great cardio, awsome take-down defense(proved that against Hughes), great stand-up skills, and just a great attitude!..By the way Matt Hughes is in my city today for Xtreme Cage Wars tonight!…Hope i get to see him…And then Hughes is holding a seminar also tommorow..gonna be a good weeekend!…
You guys calling him a liar aren’t thinking about how these guys promote a fight. OF COURSE he said that he trained hard, he has to say that. What’s he going to say, “Yeah, I’ll totally destroy this guy even without training hard, so make sure you spend your 40 bucks to watch the show.” GSP is still the best 170 out there. He got caught by Serra. He’ll be back even stronger, just like he did after he lost to Hughes.
I said when he beat Hughes that I wasnt happy because this guy is injured constantly and that he has no heart. So now he says if he was gonna face Hughes, we woulda pulled out. So that woulda been 2 fights in a row. EVERY FIGHTER IS INJURED WHEN THEY STEP IN THE CAGE! EVERY ONE! Find some heart GSP.
Two injuries is hardly constantly. You say GSP is constantly injured yet every fighter is injured when they step into the cage. That makes alot of sense. GSP has a ton of heart, and class.
You guys calling him a liar aren’t thinking about how these guys promote a fight. OF COURSE he said that he trained hard, he has to say that. What’s he going to say, “Yeah, I’ll totally destroy this guy even without training hard, so make sure you spend your 40 bucks to watch the show.” GSP is still the best 170 out there. He got caught by Serra. He’ll be back even stronger, just like he did after he lost to Hughes.
I agree 100%. The guys calling GSP a liar are hypocrites, who the hell doesn’t lie once in while? When you come out after the fact and admit you were wrong isn’t lieing, it’s the honorable thing to do. 99.9% of the people could only wish they were half the person GSP is.
gsp never got out of the blocks against serra
and imho serra stole the fight GSP appeared to slip on the cage floor a couple of times and while disorientated serra landed a couple of lucky shots
because the fight was so short its hard to tell what kind of shape he was in
koscheck should be a very tough fight for him and i wouldnt bank on him being the one who gets the title shot against matt after he takes serra apart
I love you MoreThanUFC, you are totally right with you assumption that St. Pierre has no heart. Because if GSP had heart, he could beat the likes of Miller, Trigg, Sherk, Penn, and Hughes in a row. You need heart to beat those 5 in a year and a half time span. Oh wait, GSP did do that…….
GSP will not make the mistake twice. He learned after his 1st loss and I am sure he has learned something again after this loss.
KOS is going to be in for some pain!
GSP is a young guy. Maturity takes time. Randy and Chuck are older guys but they are the best bangers out there. They stay on top because they don’t let their egos run a muck.
GSP will be a great champion in time.
Disclosure: I’m older than most here but have yet to mature.
GSP us a champion, he will hold his belt again, but all talk is cheap if you cant back it up, We listen when Chuck speaks cos he has proven he backs it up, GSP concentrate on the belt, Mouth of when your wearing it, never when your not dude.
It’s funny how people are so quick to throw others under the bus while blatantly looking past their own personal short comings. When we make mistakes or disappoint others, once we return to our senses, don’t we also ask that they overlook our temporary lapses in judgement? Is there some sort of unwritten rule that those in the spotlight must NEVER fall short? Last time I checked, someone ‘fessing up to making a poor choice & taking ownership of such was a good thing & a clear indicator that said person has “character”. GSP made a “dummy move”. We know it & he obviously knows it. It just shows that he’s as human as you & I. By no means should it take away from his accomplishments inside the Cage/Ring. All I’m really saying is that we should at least give him an opportunity to show the world whether or not he has learned his lesson before declaring him or any other fighter in a similar situation a loser.
Look, the guy is a top five lb for lb fighter. But the injuries he pulls out of fights with are what most guys get in a cage with. Do you guys want a champ who fights once a year because he is “injured” all the time? I dont. I, also, dont want a champ who whines about being injured. What, you guys jump all over Timmie, but it’s okay for GSP to essentially say the exact same thing? At least Poopie didnt then turn around and disrespect his opponent by saying he didnt train as hard because he thought he’d be easy. You call that class? I dont.
Leave it all the cage every fight and make no excuses. Those are the guys I respect.
[quote post=”2098″]I love you MoreThanUFC[/quote]
I dont know what to say….
Come on, MorethanUFC. GSP may have been injured, but he didn’t disrespect Serra by bringing it up right after Serra beat him. Right there, with the mic in his face, he gave Serra all the credit. That shows a lot of class. Secondly, how do you know the injuries that cause him to pull out of fights are the same as the injuries other fighters fight with? How about Parisyan pulling out of his title shot only a couple weeks ahead of time? Hell, what about this last UFN, where half the bouts ended up with different fighters because fighters pulled out? Fighters pull out all the time; its just less common for top fighters because their fights are more important. Well, GSP got in the octagon with Serra, injury or not. The other times he pulled out he gave plenty of notice.
What we do know is GSP pulling out of fights with injuries isn’t something he has a long history of. He was basically fighting once every three months for over 2 years up until his fight with Penn. Show some respect.
[quote post=”2098″]Fighters pull out all the time[/quote]
Thats why there arent a lot of little fighters running around…
Michael, your missing the point of the radio show that this thread is about. At least listen to it before commenting. GSP did not just COMPLETELY disrespect Matt Serra on that show?
All the fighters you’re refering too that have recently pulled out arent champions, wonder why? How many times has Randy Couture addressed this issue on air. What’s his take on it? Closer to mine I believe. It’s one thing to have a staph infection pouring out of your leg or an avulsionary fracture of your pelvis, than it is to pull a groin tendon 4 weeks out ( or was it three ) or claim an injury is bad for one opponent ( Hughes ) but not for another ( Serra ). Listen to the audio first and tell me he deserves any respect. This audio totally contradicts his post fight comments. Is he respectful and classy or is he camera savvy? I want to see it all left in the cage. War Diaz Brothers.;)
GSP us a champion, he will hold his belt again, but all talk is cheap if you cant back it up, We listen when Chuck speaks cos he has proven he backs it up, GSP concentrate on the belt, Mouth of when your wearing it, never when your not dude.
Oh ya Gsp is the king of trash talk. He never shows respect for his opponents. Don’t forget Chuck didn’t back it up 3 times when he lost,but he learned from it and so will GSP. Losing the belt was the best thing that could have happened to a 25 year old champion. Lets face it ,you, me and 99.999999% of fans thought Georges would walk through Sera,and GSP jumped on the same bandwagon , BIG DEAL. Never again will he underestimate he opponents (he’s way too smart for that). Georges never claimed to be perfect. He just tries to be a good ambassador for the sport and I think he is doing one hell of a job, Go Georges!
Well he was knocked out…not much more to leave that time around. We’ll see where he goes from here. Losses and adversity show the true mettle of a man anyway.
[quote comment=”54345″]Well he was knocked out…not much more to leave that time around. We’ll see where he goes from here. Losses and adversity show the true mettle of a man anyway.[/quote]
Lol, yeah he left it all…. I agree, I am really interested to see where his head is at in his next fight. We all thought he had gotten tougher mentally after the Hughes tap at 4:59 seconds to an armbar that wasnt even locked yet. What I really hate about this though is there are few fighters I despise more than Kos, and if Kos gets to fight the mental-midget version of GSP, then I’ll be convinced the stars are lined up for that guy.
GSP is a class act. Keep in mind, he just got annihilated!! Of course he’l say anything to deflect attention away from the fact he was healthy and in shape when he was destroyed. I hope he unleashes hell on Kos….thats if KOS doesnt backpeddle like a puss.
Did Matt Serra face the same caliber of GSP that Matt Hughes did? nope, does it really matter? nope he lost for whatever reason. Will he learn form this? I hope so, the dominating champs are all matured fighters, Matt and Chuck, it seems that ego plays into the effect of everyone. If anything GSP needs better management, he should let his muay thai trainer call his shots, that guy is crazy
Well he was knocked out…not much more to leave that time around. We’ll see where he goes from here. Losses and adversity show the true mettle of a man anyway.
Lol, yeah he left it all…. I agree, I am really interested to see where his head is at in his next fight. We all thought he had gotten tougher mentally after the Hughes tap at 4:59 seconds to an armbar that wasnt even locked yet. What I really hate about this though is there are few fighters I despise more than Kos, and if Kos gets to fight the mental-midget version of GSP, then I’ll be convinced the stars are lined up for that guy.
In the next fight his head will be right where it should be ,(getting the belt back). WE all know that its absolutly crazy that a 25 year old that dominated a stacked div. and destroyed the long reining champ could possibly buy into the hype and get a little overconfident. GSP got tagged, and Sera’s no joke,who’s to say he was guaranteed a win regaurdless of the amount of training. A mental miget, come on! A metal miget version of GSP doesn’t exist. I can see why you would doubt GSP’s ability to come back after a loss stonger than ever and run through everyone in his way to the belt. It’s not like he proved he could do that before. GSP is on a mission,hungrier than ever and he will be champ as soon as he gets a title shot. He’s going to mop the floor with his first victom, so what better opponent than Kos. The only way I see GSP losing this fight is if the cleaning guy leaves the mop standing against the cage and Georges attacks that instead of Kos.
[quote post=”2098″]A metal miget version of GSP doesn’t exist[/quote]
Uh, it did once, remember, he tapped to am armbar that wasnt even there with ONE SECOND TO GO IN THE ROUND. He admitted himself he got scared and was in awe of MH. And how in the world do you know he’s “hungier than ever” or are you nhing again? Man, I really wanna see Fitch vs GSP.
He tapped to an arm bar,so what it happens all the time,unless your stupid like sylvia and get your arm snapped.
He was scared of Matt and now Matt is scared of him. I don’t see how that makes him a mental miget. After a loss it takes mental strength to come back and destroy the guy who beat you. Vitor Belfort is a mental miget, GSP isn’t, never was and never will be. You just can’t get to where GSP is by being mentally weak. Gsp said he was hungrier than ever ,and I have no reason to doubt him (he does what he says he is going to do). I don’t know if I’m nhing again because I don’t even know what the hell nhing is. I really wanna see Fitch vs GSP too.
[quote post=”2098″](he does what he says he is going to do). [/quote]
What, like train? Ok ok. Enough about GSP and his mental toughness and disrespect. I have no choice but to root for him in his next bout. After that, we’ll see.
I thought so, I knew(or at least thought I did) Gsp was just being nice with “Serra is a dangerous opponent”, “I must train harder than ever for this fight”. Gsp exposed his true feelings what most thought he thought all along. How could he really take serra seriously with serra’s last, I don’t know….10 performances, serra is so not in gsps league its funny, and everyone deep down knows it, other than the few in denial. Gsp got caught, possibly because he took serra lightly, and didn’t block like he may have with a superior striker. I feel totally confident if they fought right now, and I mean now, gsp would embarrass serra badly. And to all those who say gsp has no heart pull your head out of your ass and smell the fresh air, no air can cause brain damage. Gsp is a great fighter in my book and a great person (from what I’ve seen) but lacks maturity(he is very young), but to say he has no heart is just dumb. Fighting bj penn the way he did with a broken nose…no heart….f**k you, I’d like to see the ass holes who claim he has no heart do that, or 1 10th of what he’s accomplished, enough said.
[quote comment=”54582″]no heart….f**k you, I’d like to see the ass holes who claim he has no heart do that, or 1 10th of what he’s accomplished, enough said.[/quote]
Dude, it’s just a discussion. I respect your opinion nathan, always have. Please show some of us a little respect, ok? It dawned on me awhile back how lucky were are on this site. There are very few trolls, compared to say Sherdog, Fightopinion, MMANews, MMAOpinion, Junkie, etc. Your a frequent poster with great knowledge, man, just use it. Peace, MTU.
Bottom line, GSP is 25 and already the most well rounded fighter. Add to that an embarrasing loss and you can expect a monster career to start taking off. I expect him to get into a rhythem where he could kick the ass of his former self.
[quote comment=”54389″][quote post=”2098″]A metal miget version of GSP doesn’t exist[/quote]
Uh, it did once, remember, he tapped to am armbar that wasnt even there with ONE SECOND TO GO IN THE ROUND. He admitted himself he got scared and was in awe of MH. And how in the world do you know he’s “hungier than ever” or are you nhing again? Man, I really wanna see Fitch vs GSP.[/quote]
[quote comment=”54619″]Straight up… GSP will get the gold back and KEEP it for along time! He has learned his lesson on taking a guy lightly and will never do that again![/quote]
Straight up… GSP will get the gold back and KEEP it for along time! He has learned his lesson on taking a guy lightly and will never do that again!
sounds like your hoping to me, wishful thinking…
Gsp proved that he learned from his first loss so I don’t see why we should doubt that he won’t learn from a way more embarrasing mistake. All the greats made mistakes in their younger years and they learned from them. Sera knows the type of person GSP is, that’s why he said, “I feel sorry for his next opponent”. It’s not wishfull thinking, it’s observant analysis.
I was at the GSP vs Serra fight. You could tell when GSP came out he didnt have the look in his eye that he was ready to fight. We all know he figured it would be a walk in the park against Serra. GSP has already learned from this lesson and im sure is mentally prepared to get back in the ring against whoever they put in front of him. If it is Kos, then great, I wanna see Kos finally fight someone that will come after him constantly and put the pressure all over him. kos wont be able to blanket GSP. If the fight happens im predicting a Super Punch that rocks kos then a left foot to the head that finish’es the job. Oh ya when Serra knocked GSP out the crowd at the Toyota center pretty much went slient and everyone was like what just happend. The 4 guys that sat to the left of me flew in from Canada to watch the fight were in complete shock
I’m a big GSP fan and I hope this doesn’t sound biased…But I think that it is easy to buy into the hype. Believe me, when I was 23 I became the youngest manager in my company’s history. I let a bunch of stuff get to my head and I ended up leaving my company because I thought I was the shit, only to learn that I wasn’t as good as I thought. I ended up going back to the original company and now I am even farther ahead than I was when I left.
I guess what I’m saying is that it is easy to believe your own hype. I just hope that it doesn’t happen to Georges again. He is a young guy and when you are on top at such a young age, you do think that you are invincible. It’s not an excuse or anything, it’s a learning lesson and let’s hope that it is exactly what Georges uses it for.
Here’s to GSP smashing Kos’ head in and then smashing Hughes for the belt again. Let’s hope that he can hold on to the belt for a while this time.
Nathan,
I just wondered peoples who bash GSP have enough gut to put the money where their mouth are, placing bets against him….or is it just their mouths talking. Talk about No Heart……
[quote comment=”54599″][quote comment=”54582″]no heart….f**k you, I’d like to see the ass holes who claim he has no heart do that, or 1 10th of what he’s accomplished, enough said.[/quote]
Dude, it’s just a discussion. I respect your opinion nathan, always have. Please show some of us a little respect, ok? It dawned on me awhile back how lucky were are on this site. There are very few trolls, compared to say Sherdog, Fightopinion, MMANews, MMAOpinion, Junkie, etc. Your a frequent poster with great knowledge, man, just use it. Peace, MTU.[/quote]
Sorry if I offended anyone, I have a soft spot for Gsp as you guys can probably tell, and I’m not gay(not that there’s anything wrong with that), he’s just my favorite fighter. I tend to get too passionate about things at times and over reacted..sorry. I can be opinionated and judgmental and sometimes get carried away, so I’ll try to think a little bit more before I comment next time. I feel very passionate about sticking up for people I like and just can’t sit quietly while others bash those I admire, but sometimes go to far.
Nathan,
I just wondered peoples who bash GSP have enough gut to put the money where their mouth are, placing bets against him….or is it just their mouths talking. Talk about No Heart……
[quote comment=”54744″][quote comment=”54599″][quote comment=”54582″]no heart….f**k you, I’d like to see the ass holes who claim he has no heart do that, or 1 10th of what he’s accomplished, enough said.[/quote]
Dude, it’s just a discussion. I respect your opinion nathan, always have. Please show some of us a little respect, ok? It dawned on me awhile back how lucky were are on this site. There are very few trolls, compared to say Sherdog, Fightopinion, MMANews, MMAOpinion, Junkie, etc. Your a frequent poster with great knowledge, man, just use it. Peace, MTU.[/quote]
Sorry if I offended anyone, I have a soft spot for Gsp as you guys can probably tell, and I’m not gay(not that there’s anything wrong with that), he’s just my favorite fighter. I tend to get too passionate about things at times and over reacted..sorry. I can be opinionated and judgmental and sometimes get carried away, so I’ll try to think a little bit more before I comment next time. I feel very passionate about sticking up for people I like and just can’t sit quietly while others bash those I admire, but sometimes go to far.[/quote]
I wouldn’t worry about it dude we’ve all commented on something a little over the top. I’m a massive GSP fan and totally agree with you there on some of your view.
I really respect GSP, outside of the fact he lives with his Rents, drinks a glass of wine nightly, along with margaritas being his favorite drink. But I seriously respect him, but saying something along the lines of ‘my knee wasnt good, if the fight had been against hughes, I wouldnt have taken it.’
Now, fans of UFCmania, why dont you rip this guy apart like you did Bonnar for his excuses, or Tim Sylvia for his…
Oh, I know… cause GSP is god’s gift to MMA.
People don’t jump on him because he’s a great fighter and a very nice guy. Really what else could gsp have said, my knee is still injured so I must postpone the fight again, or serra is a joke and I’ll kick his ass easily. Yes he wasn’t being totally truthful but what do you say to the ugly bride, a white lie in the name of sparing someones feelings is o.k in my book. He is young and immature and probably shouldn’t have made the comment about his knee and fighting hughes but with all this guys good points he can afford to make a mistake once in a while.
Now, fans of UFCmania, why dont you rip this guy apart like you did Bonnar for his excuses, or Tim Sylvia for his…
Oh, I know… cause GSP is god’s gift to MMA.[/quote]
That was my point earlier.
[quote post=”2098″]There are very few trolls, compared to say Sherdog, Fightopinion, MMANews, MMAOpinion, Junkie, etc. [/quote]
Oooooops. Big ooooops. I didnt mean Fightopinion, I meant FightSport. Fightopinion is one of my favorite MMA sites. Fightsport is where all the people banned from Sherdog go because they have a no-ban policy.
Georges, please SHUT UP!!! You lost the belt. Now go away and train until the week before your next fight and during that week still keep your mouth SHUT about past fights and training. Got it? SHUT UP!!! Just because someone wants to talk about the Serra fight does not mean you have to keep giving new info. Your comments to Rogan in the octagon should have been the end of it. SHUT UP. Let your fists, feet, knees and elbows do your talking. Your mouth is making this all worse for your fans. SHUT UP!!!
[quote comment=”55396″]From a big fan and a fellow Canadian,
Georges, please SHUT UP!!!
You lost the belt. Now go away and train until the week before your next fight and during that week still keep your mouth SHUT about past fights and training. Got it? SHUT UP!!! Just because someone wants to talk about the Serra fight does not mean you have to keep giving new info. Your comments to Rogan in the octagon should have been the end of it. SHUT UP. Let your fists, feet, knees and elbows do your talking. Your mouth is making this all worse for your fans. SHUT UP!!![/quote]
Hell yeah….
If you lose, dont make excuses…
I can understand the fact he let everyone know he was still injured, but saying he wouldnt have taken the fight if it was say Hughes and he though Serra was a pushover is even more of a bitch move. Its not even like his ‘knee’ came into play when he was getting pummeled by Serra who’s boxing skills are below a lot of fighters.
Soon enough we will see GSP/Title holder and from there his heart will be tested for hunger of being the best in the 170 weight class. Kos will be a test, but I truly feel that GSP will be back around this fight. So whether he was stupid enough to not train hard because of the hype than we all saw what can happen
[quote post=”2098″]Now, fans of UFCmania, why dont you rip this guy apart like you did Bonnar for his excuses, or Tim Sylvia for his…
Oh, I know… cause GSP is god’s gift to MMA.[/quote]
Luppers, let’s not get crazy here, ok? As far as fight records are concerned, who has Bonnar beaten that would give you rightful cause to compare him to GSP? Tim Sylvia? He’s only beaten Rico Rodriquez & he was on his way out talent-wise at the time & AA. C’mon, you must really dislike GSP on personal level to even make this comparison in jest. Bonnar? Tim? LMAO!……….Bonnar!?!?! Hahahaha! i can’t get over it.
ITs got nothing to do with record…
Any other fighter whines about anything in the least, and the masses jump on them like they are a 13 year old cheerleader whining about nail breaks. GSP - in my opinion… I love the guy as a fighter. But this is retarded… be basically blamed the loss of his title on the fact that he thought Serra was a lesser oponent, and if he thought he was really gonna be tested he would have bailed. That is total bitch work right there, and loses respect how ever you look at it. Hence my point… I wasnt trying to say that Bonnar and Sylvia are on the same plane as GSP in the ring… but when it comes to whining and excuses, he is right there with the rest of them.
I agree with Luppers, he made an excuse, besically admitted he tood this fight easily. Although I think it had a little fo something to do with that fact that they get interviewed a hundred times, and feel they need to say somehting new for each one. But still, that seemed out of character for St. Pierre. But really, it’s not that big of a deal.
From a semi-french canadian i’m gonna assume by what he meant in regards to his injury was that he train properly because he was injured. Do I think he’s a turd for what he just said, yeah, but i think most fighters if given the opportunity to speak like Matt Serra, Tim Silvia, even Matt Hughes say dumb shit every now and again. You would assume that these guys would have management (like Chuck should of had) to ensure that PR messes like this are avoided. Saying he disrespected Serra for those comments? I could understand that, but at the same time he never said that Serra is a chump or that if he trained harder that the same outcome couldn’t have occured, yeah he states he took him lightly, and that was a big mistake because Serra was more than ready, If anything Matt Serra is guaging himself on how he measured up to St. Pierre, where in all actuallity he never faced the same GSP that everybody else did. Matt Serra should seriously reconsider his choice of words and his level of confidence because Matt Hughes is no joke, and I hope he doesn’t think that their fight is gonna end in the same fashion. I wouldn’t be sparring for 80 plus rounds for this fight.
[quote post=”2098″] I wasnt trying to say that Bonnar and Sylvia are on the same plane as GSP in the ring… but when it comes to whining and excuses, he is right there with the rest of them[/quote]
Luppers, I acknowledge where you’re coming from. I just think that GSP’s foolish mistake should’nt warrant an immediate trip “under the bus”. He’s a 1st time offender. Now, if this current situation is the beginning of a trend then I agree that we should not treat him any different then a Tim or whoever when they make excuses………….Speaking of excuses, what’s up with Chuck & him blaming injuries as reasons for his loss to Rampage in 2003? Or should I save that for another thread
[quote post=”2098″]Speaking of excuses, what’s up with Chuck & him blaming injuries as reasons for his loss to Rampage in 2003? Or should I save that for another thread [/quote]
Hype for the nuthuggers. Their hero cant possibly have ever lost a fight. It has to be because of something… oh, yeah an injury…in a tournament…he was the only one….only Chuck had an injury in the most violent tourney Pride ever held….yeah that’s it. If I whined as much as these guys at my job, my boss would fire me.
listen people all of you.. This was a fight… It is NOT impossible for a better fighter to lose in an unpredictable sport like MMA…he got caught by a punch that would have stunned him no matter how much training…the only way he could have won is if he would rushed him w/ an array of punches and kicks, but that is not what a professional fight does. He first reads and times his opponent and then capitalizes on opportunity, which is what gsp was doing..his only fall back is that a fighter that is over confident does not feel the same type of adrenalin and alertness, so in that sense he lacked the hunger that matt serra had that night..gsp is still a great fighter and as long as he has heart he will remain a great fighter…(he does have heart)
[quote comment=”55651″][quote post=”2098″]Speaking of excuses, what’s up with Chuck & him blaming injuries as reasons for his loss to Rampage in 2003? Or should I save that for another thread [/quote]
Hype for the nuthuggers. Their hero cant possibly have ever lost a fight. It has to be because of something… oh, yeah an injury…in a tournament…he was the only one….only Chuck had an injury in the most violent tourney Pride ever held….yeah that’s it. If I whined as much as these guys at my job, my boss would fire me.[/quote]
Wow holy shit MTU you work?? how the hell do you post 1100 times and work? do you post at work or what? that’s crazy, I thought you were collecting a check and chilling on your laptop all day.
[quote comment=”55659″][quote comment=”55651″][quote post=”2098″]Speaking of excuses, what’s up with Chuck & him blaming injuries as reasons for his loss to Rampage in 2003? Or should I save that for another thread [/quote]
Hype for the nuthuggers. Their hero cant possibly have ever lost a fight. It has to be because of something… oh, yeah an injury…in a tournament…he was the only one….only Chuck had an injury in the most violent tourney Pride ever held….yeah that’s it. If I whined as much as these guys at my job, my boss would fire me.[/quote]
Wow holy shit MTU you work?? how the hell do you post 1100 times and work? do you post at work or what? that’s crazy, I thought you were collecting a check and chilling on your laptop all day.[/quote]
I’m independently weathly. Lol, no, I wish. I left my former job so I could have time to find a better one. At my career level, it is almost impossible to have a job and also look for one. My last contract actually forbade me from seeking employment in the same field with a rival company, so to do so, I had to quit first. So, yes, lately I’ve had more time to post. Oh, and BLOodyMEss, your an ahole for bringing it up. Just kidding, bro.
no offense bud just saying that I have alot of off time myself, being as I work mornings and usually check this site for news regularly, and there no way I could keep up with your posts and research. Dont get me wrong, cause i’m glad you do what you do and I learn alot from your posts, even though you can be an A hole!
[quote comment=”55665″]no offense bud just saying that I have alot of off time myself, being as I work mornings and usually check this site for news regularly, and there no way I could keep up with your posts and research. Dont get me wrong, cause i’m glad you do what you do and I learn alot from your posts, even though you can be an A hole![/quote]
Man, I was totally joking. Really. I thought you’d get that. Hence the smiley! Sorry if you took offense.
[quote post=”2098″]Speaking of excuses, what’s up with Chuck & him blaming injuries as reasons for his loss to Rampage in 2003? Or should I save that for another thread
Hype for the nuthuggers. Their hero cant possibly have ever lost a fight. It has to be because of something… oh, yeah an injury…in a tournament…he was the only one….only Chuck had an injury in the most violent tourney Pride ever held….yeah that’s it. If I whined as much as these guys at my job, my boss would fire me.[/quote]
Agreed. I wonder why fighters who win their fights despite being injured rarely bring those injuries to light after the fact? Hmmmmm……
[quote comment=”55679″][quote post=”2098″]Speaking of excuses, what’s up with Chuck & him blaming injuries as reasons for his loss to Rampage in 2003? Or should I save that for another thread
Hype for the nuthuggers. Their hero cant possibly have ever lost a fight. It has to be because of something… oh, yeah an injury…in a tournament…he was the only one….only Chuck had an injury in the most violent tourney Pride ever held….yeah that’s it. If I whined as much as these guys at my job, my boss would fire me.[/quote]
Agreed. I wonder why fighters who win their fights despite being injured rarely bring those injuries to light after the fact? Hmmmmm……[/quote]
Chuck said he was injured after he fought Tito last time
A fan of someone is a nuthugger? How can you question peoples emotional maturity and always resort to name calling when people stand for their fighter? Your not suppossed to think your fighters gonna lose the same way one can’t go into a fight thinking they’ll lose. Respect your opponent but believe i
It’s funny how he’s admits all this after he loses. In all of the pre fight clips you see him saying about Serra “This is the opportunity of his life so I have to train like never before, or something on those lines” so either he was lying then or just making excuses now
GSP really is one of the nicest guys. I could see how he would think he would beat Serra easily though, hell everyone did. But 2 weeks of training vs the MONTHS of Serra’s training aint gonna cut it with anyone. Oh well, let the past stay in the past. If his next opponent is Josh K., that is going to be a joke. Koscheck looked horribly scared against Diego and landed nothing but counter attacks. Plus GSP is gonna be a beast. Just be looking for brown stains in the back of Koshcheck’s shorts when he fights GSP.
GSP is a class act fighter in my book. I’m not sure if I believe about his not being ready but oh well he says what he says.
He better train hard for Kos
yes i’ll buy this excuse for now.he wont be able to use again. i dont think he will need to though.
I hope GSP doesn’t start “fighting not to lose”. There are already too many fighters that are fighting not to lose.
Forget the judges - CLOSE THE SHOW!!!!!
GSP just took a step down to me. He was either a liar then or a liar now. Not defending Jim Lampley but he never said this ‘courage’ has never been show by mma fighters, he said boxers are light years ahead ‘with their hands’. Honestly, we get a semi pro boxer like Allesio we talk how good they are with their hands. Who in mma has ever been to the Olympics for boxing much less took home the gold. He was in fact on the defensive for boxing but he didn’t technically lie. So why do people have to change his words, to give themselves something to talk about?
[quote comment=”54033″]I hope GSP doesn’t start “fighting not to lose”. There are already too many fighters that are fighting not to lose.
Forget the judges - CLOSE THE SHOW!!!!![/quote]
i agree on this one. but it takes both fighters trying to win to make this happen. if one guy is fighting not to lose and the other is fighting just to survive, it can make for some pretty boring stuff.
In fact thinking about it, GSP was coming off an injury and didn’t fight in how long? Now he’s saying he didn’t bother to train for the fight, so the belt didn’t mean that much to him. How long did he just want to vacation with the belt? How does he go from saying he was in the best condition to the worst? He couldn’t have wanted it too bad if this is the case. Its as bad of a thing you can do in my mind, you said f the fans. Took off however long to rest from the injury then only train two weeks for the fight. Thats the how much he cared. GSP in fact loses two points with me, a KO of Kos will easily make up one of those points though.
Kosh you better watch out coz GSP is gonna shut u down 4 good
I said when he beat Hughes that I wasnt happy because this guy is injured constantly and that he has no heart. So now he says if he was gonna face Hughes, we woulda pulled out. So that woulda been 2 fights in a row. EVERY FIGHTER IS INJURED WHEN THEY STEP IN THE CAGE! EVERY ONE! Find some heart GSP.
I said when he beat Hughes that I wasnt happy because this guy is injured constantly and that he has no heart. So now he says if he was gonna face Hughes, we woulda pulled out. So that woulda been 2 fights in a row. EVERY FIGHTER IS INJURED WHEN THEY STEP IN THE CAGE! EVERY ONE! Find some heart GSP.
Wonder what Serra is thinking about GSP now? ‘If I was facing Hughes I woundn’t have fought, but it was Matt Serra, I figured it was gonna be easy.’
It really doesen’t matter what he says! GSP will go ahead and prove what he says with a couple of left leg kicks to the side of any opponent’s head, Some good ol’ GnP and get the stoppage from the ref, if he didn’t get the KO already. GSP is arguably the best technical fighter in the world! GSP has great cardio, awsome take-down defense(proved that against Hughes), great stand-up skills, and just a great attitude!..By the way Matt Hughes is in my city today for Xtreme Cage Wars tonight!…Hope i get to see him…And then Hughes is holding a seminar also tommorow..gonna be a good weeekend!…
You guys calling him a liar aren’t thinking about how these guys promote a fight. OF COURSE he said that he trained hard, he has to say that. What’s he going to say, “Yeah, I’ll totally destroy this guy even without training hard, so make sure you spend your 40 bucks to watch the show.” GSP is still the best 170 out there. He got caught by Serra. He’ll be back even stronger, just like he did after he lost to Hughes.
I said when he beat Hughes that I wasnt happy because this guy is injured constantly and that he has no heart. So now he says if he was gonna face Hughes, we woulda pulled out. So that woulda been 2 fights in a row. EVERY FIGHTER IS INJURED WHEN THEY STEP IN THE CAGE! EVERY ONE! Find some heart GSP.
Two injuries is hardly constantly. You say GSP is constantly injured yet every fighter is injured when they step into the cage. That makes alot of sense. GSP has a ton of heart, and class.
You guys calling him a liar aren’t thinking about how these guys promote a fight. OF COURSE he said that he trained hard, he has to say that. What’s he going to say, “Yeah, I’ll totally destroy this guy even without training hard, so make sure you spend your 40 bucks to watch the show.” GSP is still the best 170 out there. He got caught by Serra. He’ll be back even stronger, just like he did after he lost to Hughes.
I agree 100%. The guys calling GSP a liar are hypocrites, who the hell doesn’t lie once in while? When you come out after the fact and admit you were wrong isn’t lieing, it’s the honorable thing to do. 99.9% of the people could only wish they were half the person GSP is.
gsp never got out of the blocks against serra
and imho serra stole the fight GSP appeared to slip on the cage floor a couple of times and while disorientated serra landed a couple of lucky shots
because the fight was so short its hard to tell what kind of shape he was in
koscheck should be a very tough fight for him and i wouldnt bank on him being the one who gets the title shot against matt after he takes serra apart
I love you MoreThanUFC, you are totally right with you assumption that St. Pierre has no heart. Because if GSP had heart, he could beat the likes of Miller, Trigg, Sherk, Penn, and Hughes in a row. You need heart to beat those 5 in a year and a half time span. Oh wait, GSP did do that…….
what a great post
GSP will not make the mistake twice. He learned after his 1st loss and I am sure he has learned something again after this loss.
KOS is going to be in for some pain!
Did you see the beating GSP took from Penn to come back and win? That’s heart nomatter how you look at it.
GSP is a young guy. Maturity takes time. Randy and Chuck are older guys but they are the best bangers out there. They stay on top because they don’t let their egos run a muck.
GSP will be a great champion in time.
Disclosure: I’m older than most here but have yet to mature.
GSP us a champion, he will hold his belt again, but all talk is cheap if you cant back it up, We listen when Chuck speaks cos he has proven he backs it up, GSP concentrate on the belt, Mouth of when your wearing it, never when your not dude.
It’s funny how people are so quick to throw others under the bus while blatantly looking past their own personal short comings. When we make mistakes or disappoint others, once we return to our senses, don’t we also ask that they overlook our temporary lapses in judgement? Is there some sort of unwritten rule that those in the spotlight must NEVER fall short? Last time I checked, someone ‘fessing up to making a poor choice & taking ownership of such was a good thing & a clear indicator that said person has “character”. GSP made a “dummy move”. We know it & he obviously knows it. It just shows that he’s as human as you & I. By no means should it take away from his accomplishments inside the Cage/Ring. All I’m really saying is that we should at least give him an opportunity to show the world whether or not he has learned his lesson before declaring him or any other fighter in a similar situation a loser.
Look, the guy is a top five lb for lb fighter. But the injuries he pulls out of fights with are what most guys get in a cage with. Do you guys want a champ who fights once a year because he is “injured” all the time? I dont. I, also, dont want a champ who whines about being injured. What, you guys jump all over Timmie, but it’s okay for GSP to essentially say the exact same thing? At least Poopie didnt then turn around and disrespect his opponent by saying he didnt train as hard because he thought he’d be easy. You call that class? I dont.
Leave it all the cage every fight and make no excuses. Those are the guys I respect.
[quote post=”2098″]I love you MoreThanUFC[/quote]
I dont know what to say….
Come on, MorethanUFC. GSP may have been injured, but he didn’t disrespect Serra by bringing it up right after Serra beat him. Right there, with the mic in his face, he gave Serra all the credit. That shows a lot of class. Secondly, how do you know the injuries that cause him to pull out of fights are the same as the injuries other fighters fight with? How about Parisyan pulling out of his title shot only a couple weeks ahead of time? Hell, what about this last UFN, where half the bouts ended up with different fighters because fighters pulled out? Fighters pull out all the time; its just less common for top fighters because their fights are more important. Well, GSP got in the octagon with Serra, injury or not. The other times he pulled out he gave plenty of notice.
What we do know is GSP pulling out of fights with injuries isn’t something he has a long history of. He was basically fighting once every three months for over 2 years up until his fight with Penn. Show some respect.
[quote post=”2098″]Fighters pull out all the time[/quote]
Thats why there arent a lot of little fighters running around…
Michael, your missing the point of the radio show that this thread is about. At least listen to it before commenting. GSP did not just COMPLETELY disrespect Matt Serra on that show?
All the fighters you’re refering too that have recently pulled out arent champions, wonder why? How many times has Randy Couture addressed this issue on air. What’s his take on it? Closer to mine I believe. It’s one thing to have a staph infection pouring out of your leg or an avulsionary fracture of your pelvis, than it is to pull a groin tendon 4 weeks out ( or was it three ) or claim an injury is bad for one opponent ( Hughes ) but not for another ( Serra ). Listen to the audio first and tell me he deserves any respect. This audio totally contradicts his post fight comments. Is he respectful and classy or is he camera savvy? I want to see it all left in the cage. War Diaz Brothers.;)
GSP us a champion, he will hold his belt again, but all talk is cheap if you cant back it up, We listen when Chuck speaks cos he has proven he backs it up, GSP concentrate on the belt, Mouth of when your wearing it, never when your not dude.
Oh ya Gsp is the king of trash talk. He never shows respect for his opponents. Don’t forget Chuck didn’t back it up 3 times when he lost,but he learned from it and so will GSP. Losing the belt was the best thing that could have happened to a 25 year old champion. Lets face it ,you, me and 99.999999% of fans thought Georges would walk through Sera,and GSP jumped on the same bandwagon , BIG DEAL. Never again will he underestimate he opponents (he’s way too smart for that). Georges never claimed to be perfect. He just tries to be a good ambassador for the sport and I think he is doing one hell of a job, Go Georges!
Well he was knocked out…not much more to leave that time around. We’ll see where he goes from here. Losses and adversity show the true mettle of a man anyway.
[quote comment=”54345″]Well he was knocked out…not much more to leave that time around. We’ll see where he goes from here. Losses and adversity show the true mettle of a man anyway.[/quote]
Lol, yeah he left it all…. I agree, I am really interested to see where his head is at in his next fight. We all thought he had gotten tougher mentally after the Hughes tap at 4:59 seconds to an armbar that wasnt even locked yet. What I really hate about this though is there are few fighters I despise more than Kos, and if Kos gets to fight the mental-midget version of GSP, then I’ll be convinced the stars are lined up for that guy.
GSP is a class act. Keep in mind, he just got annihilated!! Of course he’l say anything to deflect attention away from the fact he was healthy and in shape when he was destroyed. I hope he unleashes hell on Kos….thats if KOS doesnt backpeddle like a puss.
Did Matt Serra face the same caliber of GSP that Matt Hughes did? nope, does it really matter? nope he lost for whatever reason. Will he learn form this? I hope so, the dominating champs are all matured fighters, Matt and Chuck, it seems that ego plays into the effect of everyone. If anything GSP needs better management, he should let his muay thai trainer call his shots, that guy is crazy
Well he was knocked out…not much more to leave that time around. We’ll see where he goes from here. Losses and adversity show the true mettle of a man anyway.
Lol, yeah he left it all…. I agree, I am really interested to see where his head is at in his next fight. We all thought he had gotten tougher mentally after the Hughes tap at 4:59 seconds to an armbar that wasnt even locked yet. What I really hate about this though is there are few fighters I despise more than Kos, and if Kos gets to fight the mental-midget version of GSP, then I’ll be convinced the stars are lined up for that guy.
In the next fight his head will be right where it should be ,(getting the belt back). WE all know that its absolutly crazy that a 25 year old that dominated a stacked div. and destroyed the long reining champ could possibly buy into the hype and get a little overconfident. GSP got tagged, and Sera’s no joke,who’s to say he was guaranteed a win regaurdless of the amount of training. A mental miget, come on! A metal miget version of GSP doesn’t exist. I can see why you would doubt GSP’s ability to come back after a loss stonger than ever and run through everyone in his way to the belt. It’s not like he proved he could do that before. GSP is on a mission,hungrier than ever and he will be champ as soon as he gets a title shot. He’s going to mop the floor with his first victom, so what better opponent than Kos. The only way I see GSP losing this fight is if the cleaning guy leaves the mop standing against the cage and Georges attacks that instead of Kos.
[quote post=”2098″]A metal miget version of GSP doesn’t exist[/quote]
Uh, it did once, remember, he tapped to am armbar that wasnt even there with ONE SECOND TO GO IN THE ROUND. He admitted himself he got scared and was in awe of MH. And how in the world do you know he’s “hungier than ever” or are you nhing again? Man, I really wanna see Fitch vs GSP.
He tapped to an arm bar,so what it happens all the time,unless your stupid like sylvia and get your arm snapped.
He was scared of Matt and now Matt is scared of him. I don’t see how that makes him a mental miget. After a loss it takes mental strength to come back and destroy the guy who beat you. Vitor Belfort is a mental miget, GSP isn’t, never was and never will be. You just can’t get to where GSP is by being mentally weak. Gsp said he was hungrier than ever ,and I have no reason to doubt him (he does what he says he is going to do). I don’t know if I’m nhing again because I don’t even know what the hell nhing is. I really wanna see Fitch vs GSP too.
[quote post=”2098″](he does what he says he is going to do). [/quote]
What, like train? Ok ok. Enough about GSP and his mental toughness and disrespect. I have no choice but to root for him in his next bout. After that, we’ll see.
If i was GSP and i KO Hughes the way he did it would be hard not to get caught up on all the hype.
I thought so, I knew(or at least thought I did) Gsp was just being nice with “Serra is a dangerous opponent”, “I must train harder than ever for this fight”. Gsp exposed his true feelings what most thought he thought all along. How could he really take serra seriously with serra’s last, I don’t know….10 performances, serra is so not in gsps league its funny, and everyone deep down knows it, other than the few in denial. Gsp got caught, possibly because he took serra lightly, and didn’t block like he may have with a superior striker. I feel totally confident if they fought right now, and I mean now, gsp would embarrass serra badly. And to all those who say gsp has no heart pull your head out of your ass and smell the fresh air, no air can cause brain damage. Gsp is a great fighter in my book and a great person (from what I’ve seen) but lacks maturity(he is very young), but to say he has no heart is just dumb. Fighting bj penn the way he did with a broken nose…no heart….f**k you, I’d like to see the ass holes who claim he has no heart do that, or 1 10th of what he’s accomplished, enough said.
[quote comment=”54582″]no heart….f**k you, I’d like to see the ass holes who claim he has no heart do that, or 1 10th of what he’s accomplished, enough said.[/quote]
Dude, it’s just a discussion. I respect your opinion nathan, always have. Please show some of us a little respect, ok? It dawned on me awhile back how lucky were are on this site. There are very few trolls, compared to say Sherdog, Fightopinion, MMANews, MMAOpinion, Junkie, etc. Your a frequent poster with great knowledge, man, just use it. Peace, MTU.
Bottom line, GSP is 25 and already the most well rounded fighter. Add to that an embarrasing loss and you can expect a monster career to start taking off. I expect him to get into a rhythem where he could kick the ass of his former self.
[quote comment=”54389″][quote post=”2098″]A metal miget version of GSP doesn’t exist[/quote]
Uh, it did once, remember, he tapped to am armbar that wasnt even there with ONE SECOND TO GO IN THE ROUND. He admitted himself he got scared and was in awe of MH. And how in the world do you know he’s “hungier than ever” or are you nhing again? Man, I really wanna see Fitch vs GSP.[/quote]
That would be fitchs first loss.
Straight up… GSP will get the gold back and KEEP it for along time! He has learned his lesson on taking a guy lightly and will never do that again!
[quote comment=”54619″]Straight up… GSP will get the gold back and KEEP it for along time! He has learned his lesson on taking a guy lightly and will never do that again![/quote]
sounds like your hoping to me, wishful thinking…
Straight up… GSP will get the gold back and KEEP it for along time! He has learned his lesson on taking a guy lightly and will never do that again!
sounds like your hoping to me, wishful thinking…
Gsp proved that he learned from his first loss so I don’t see why we should doubt that he won’t learn from a way more embarrasing mistake. All the greats made mistakes in their younger years and they learned from them. Sera knows the type of person GSP is, that’s why he said, “I feel sorry for his next opponent”. It’s not wishfull thinking, it’s observant analysis.
kosh is gonna be ripped limb from limb
I was at the GSP vs Serra fight. You could tell when GSP came out he didnt have the look in his eye that he was ready to fight. We all know he figured it would be a walk in the park against Serra. GSP has already learned from this lesson and im sure is mentally prepared to get back in the ring against whoever they put in front of him. If it is Kos, then great, I wanna see Kos finally fight someone that will come after him constantly and put the pressure all over him. kos wont be able to blanket GSP. If the fight happens im predicting a Super Punch that rocks kos then a left foot to the head that finish’es the job. Oh ya when Serra knocked GSP out the crowd at the Toyota center pretty much went slient and everyone was like what just happend. The 4 guys that sat to the left of me flew in from Canada to watch the fight were in complete shock
I’m a big GSP fan and I hope this doesn’t sound biased…But I think that it is easy to buy into the hype. Believe me, when I was 23 I became the youngest manager in my company’s history. I let a bunch of stuff get to my head and I ended up leaving my company because I thought I was the shit, only to learn that I wasn’t as good as I thought. I ended up going back to the original company and now I am even farther ahead than I was when I left.
I guess what I’m saying is that it is easy to believe your own hype. I just hope that it doesn’t happen to Georges again. He is a young guy and when you are on top at such a young age, you do think that you are invincible. It’s not an excuse or anything, it’s a learning lesson and let’s hope that it is exactly what Georges uses it for.
Here’s to GSP smashing Kos’ head in and then smashing Hughes for the belt again. Let’s hope that he can hold on to the belt for a while this time.
Nathan,
I just wondered peoples who bash GSP have enough gut to put the money where their mouth are, placing bets against him….or is it just their mouths talking. Talk about No Heart……
“And how in the world do you know he’s “hungier than ever” or are you nhing again?”
Ok, just ask Matt Hughes; he’ll tell you.
[quote comment=”54599″][quote comment=”54582″]no heart….f**k you, I’d like to see the ass holes who claim he has no heart do that, or 1 10th of what he’s accomplished, enough said.[/quote]
Dude, it’s just a discussion. I respect your opinion nathan, always have. Please show some of us a little respect, ok? It dawned on me awhile back how lucky were are on this site. There are very few trolls, compared to say Sherdog, Fightopinion, MMANews, MMAOpinion, Junkie, etc. Your a frequent poster with great knowledge, man, just use it. Peace, MTU.[/quote]
Sorry if I offended anyone, I have a soft spot for Gsp as you guys can probably tell, and I’m not gay(not that there’s anything wrong with that), he’s just my favorite fighter. I tend to get too passionate about things at times and over reacted..sorry. I can be opinionated and judgmental and sometimes get carried away, so I’ll try to think a little bit more before I comment next time. I feel very passionate about sticking up for people I like and just can’t sit quietly while others bash those I admire, but sometimes go to far.
Nathan,
I just wondered peoples who bash GSP have enough gut to put the money where their mouth are, placing bets against him….or is it just their mouths talking. Talk about No Heart……
Good call!
[quote comment=”54744″][quote comment=”54599″][quote comment=”54582″]no heart….f**k you, I’d like to see the ass holes who claim he has no heart do that, or 1 10th of what he’s accomplished, enough said.[/quote]
Dude, it’s just a discussion. I respect your opinion nathan, always have. Please show some of us a little respect, ok? It dawned on me awhile back how lucky were are on this site. There are very few trolls, compared to say Sherdog, Fightopinion, MMANews, MMAOpinion, Junkie, etc. Your a frequent poster with great knowledge, man, just use it. Peace, MTU.[/quote]
Sorry if I offended anyone, I have a soft spot for Gsp as you guys can probably tell, and I’m not gay(not that there’s anything wrong with that), he’s just my favorite fighter. I tend to get too passionate about things at times and over reacted..sorry. I can be opinionated and judgmental and sometimes get carried away, so I’ll try to think a little bit more before I comment next time. I feel very passionate about sticking up for people I like and just can’t sit quietly while others bash those I admire, but sometimes go to far.[/quote]
I wouldn’t worry about it dude we’ve all commented on something a little over the top. I’m a massive GSP fan and totally agree with you there on some of your view.
You guys ever watch Unnecessary Censorship with Jimmy Kimmel? Here’s a GSP version:
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/gsp/video/x1hd4r_gsp-hospital
I really respect GSP, outside of the fact he lives with his Rents, drinks a glass of wine nightly, along with margaritas being his favorite drink. But I seriously respect him, but saying something along the lines of ‘my knee wasnt good, if the fight had been against hughes, I wouldnt have taken it.’
Now, fans of UFCmania, why dont you rip this guy apart like you did Bonnar for his excuses, or Tim Sylvia for his…
Oh, I know… cause GSP is god’s gift to MMA.
People don’t jump on him because he’s a great fighter and a very nice guy. Really what else could gsp have said, my knee is still injured so I must postpone the fight again, or serra is a joke and I’ll kick his ass easily. Yes he wasn’t being totally truthful but what do you say to the ugly bride, a white lie in the name of sparing someones feelings is o.k in my book. He is young and immature and probably shouldn’t have made the comment about his knee and fighting hughes but with all this guys good points he can afford to make a mistake once in a while.
[quote comment=”55341″]
Now, fans of UFCmania, why dont you rip this guy apart like you did Bonnar for his excuses, or Tim Sylvia for his…
Oh, I know… cause GSP is god’s gift to MMA.[/quote]
That was my point earlier.
[quote post=”2098″]There are very few trolls, compared to say Sherdog, Fightopinion, MMANews, MMAOpinion, Junkie, etc. [/quote]
Oooooops. Big ooooops. I didnt mean Fightopinion, I meant FightSport. Fightopinion is one of my favorite MMA sites. Fightsport is where all the people banned from Sherdog go because they have a no-ban policy.
From a big fan and a fellow Canadian,
Georges, please SHUT UP!!! You lost the belt. Now go away and train until the week before your next fight and during that week still keep your mouth SHUT about past fights and training. Got it? SHUT UP!!! Just because someone wants to talk about the Serra fight does not mean you have to keep giving new info. Your comments to Rogan in the octagon should have been the end of it. SHUT UP. Let your fists, feet, knees and elbows do your talking. Your mouth is making this all worse for your fans. SHUT UP!!!
[quote comment=”55396″]From a big fan and a fellow Canadian,
Georges, please SHUT UP!!!
You lost the belt. Now go away and train until the week before your next fight and during that week still keep your mouth SHUT about past fights and training. Got it? SHUT UP!!! Just because someone wants to talk about the Serra fight does not mean you have to keep giving new info. Your comments to Rogan in the octagon should have been the end of it. SHUT UP. Let your fists, feet, knees and elbows do your talking. Your mouth is making this all worse for your fans. SHUT UP!!![/quote]
Hell yeah….
If you lose, dont make excuses…
I can understand the fact he let everyone know he was still injured, but saying he wouldnt have taken the fight if it was say Hughes and he though Serra was a pushover is even more of a bitch move. Its not even like his ‘knee’ came into play when he was getting pummeled by Serra who’s boxing skills are below a lot of fighters.
[quote comment=”54204″]Did you see the beating GSP took from Penn to come back and win? That’s heart nomatter how you look at it.[/quote]
I agree with this comment. He took a pounding in that first round and came back to steal the win. He really sucked it up and showed a ton of heart.
Hopefully he will bounce back. GSP is a real class act.
Soon enough we will see GSP/Title holder and from there his heart will be tested for hunger of being the best in the 170 weight class. Kos will be a test, but I truly feel that GSP will be back around this fight. So whether he was stupid enough to not train hard because of the hype than we all saw what can happen
[quote post=”2098″]Now, fans of UFCmania, why dont you rip this guy apart like you did Bonnar for his excuses, or Tim Sylvia for his…
Oh, I know… cause GSP is god’s gift to MMA.[/quote]
Luppers, let’s not get crazy here, ok? As far as fight records are concerned, who has Bonnar beaten that would give you rightful cause to compare him to GSP? Tim Sylvia? He’s only beaten Rico Rodriquez & he was on his way out talent-wise at the time & AA. C’mon, you must really dislike GSP on personal level to even make this comparison in jest. Bonnar? Tim? LMAO!……….Bonnar!?!?! Hahahaha! i can’t get over it.
ITs got nothing to do with record…
Any other fighter whines about anything in the least, and the masses jump on them like they are a 13 year old cheerleader whining about nail breaks. GSP - in my opinion… I love the guy as a fighter. But this is retarded… be basically blamed the loss of his title on the fact that he thought Serra was a lesser oponent, and if he thought he was really gonna be tested he would have bailed. That is total bitch work right there, and loses respect how ever you look at it. Hence my point… I wasnt trying to say that Bonnar and Sylvia are on the same plane as GSP in the ring… but when it comes to whining and excuses, he is right there with the rest of them.
I agree with Luppers, he made an excuse, besically admitted he tood this fight easily. Although I think it had a little fo something to do with that fact that they get interviewed a hundred times, and feel they need to say somehting new for each one. But still, that seemed out of character for St. Pierre. But really, it’s not that big of a deal.
From a semi-french canadian i’m gonna assume by what he meant in regards to his injury was that he train properly because he was injured. Do I think he’s a turd for what he just said, yeah, but i think most fighters if given the opportunity to speak like Matt Serra, Tim Silvia, even Matt Hughes say dumb shit every now and again. You would assume that these guys would have management (like Chuck should of had) to ensure that PR messes like this are avoided. Saying he disrespected Serra for those comments? I could understand that, but at the same time he never said that Serra is a chump or that if he trained harder that the same outcome couldn’t have occured, yeah he states he took him lightly, and that was a big mistake because Serra was more than ready, If anything Matt Serra is guaging himself on how he measured up to St. Pierre, where in all actuallity he never faced the same GSP that everybody else did. Matt Serra should seriously reconsider his choice of words and his level of confidence because Matt Hughes is no joke, and I hope he doesn’t think that their fight is gonna end in the same fashion. I wouldn’t be sparring for 80 plus rounds for this fight.
[quote post=”2098″] I wasnt trying to say that Bonnar and Sylvia are on the same plane as GSP in the ring… but when it comes to whining and excuses, he is right there with the rest of them[/quote]
Luppers, I acknowledge where you’re coming from. I just think that GSP’s foolish mistake should’nt warrant an immediate trip “under the bus”. He’s a 1st time offender. Now, if this current situation is the beginning of a trend then I agree that we should not treat him any different then a Tim or whoever when they make excuses………….Speaking of excuses, what’s up with Chuck & him blaming injuries as reasons for his loss to Rampage in 2003? Or should I save that for another thread
[quote post=”2098″]Speaking of excuses, what’s up with Chuck & him blaming injuries as reasons for his loss to Rampage in 2003? Or should I save that for another thread [/quote]
Hype for the nuthuggers. Their hero cant possibly have ever lost a fight. It has to be because of something… oh, yeah an injury…in a tournament…he was the only one….only Chuck had an injury in the most violent tourney Pride ever held….yeah that’s it. If I whined as much as these guys at my job, my boss would fire me.
listen people all of you.. This was a fight… It is NOT impossible for a better fighter to lose in an unpredictable sport like MMA…he got caught by a punch that would have stunned him no matter how much training…the only way he could have won is if he would rushed him w/ an array of punches and kicks, but that is not what a professional fight does. He first reads and times his opponent and then capitalizes on opportunity, which is what gsp was doing..his only fall back is that a fighter that is over confident does not feel the same type of adrenalin and alertness, so in that sense he lacked the hunger that matt serra had that night..gsp is still a great fighter and as long as he has heart he will remain a great fighter…(he does have heart)
[quote comment=”55651″][quote post=”2098″]Speaking of excuses, what’s up with Chuck & him blaming injuries as reasons for his loss to Rampage in 2003? Or should I save that for another thread [/quote]
Hype for the nuthuggers. Their hero cant possibly have ever lost a fight. It has to be because of something… oh, yeah an injury…in a tournament…he was the only one….only Chuck had an injury in the most violent tourney Pride ever held….yeah that’s it. If I whined as much as these guys at my job, my boss would fire me.[/quote]
Wow holy shit MTU you work?? how the hell do you post 1100 times and work? do you post at work or what? that’s crazy, I thought you were collecting a check and chilling on your laptop all day.
[quote comment=”55659″][quote comment=”55651″][quote post=”2098″]Speaking of excuses, what’s up with Chuck & him blaming injuries as reasons for his loss to Rampage in 2003? Or should I save that for another thread [/quote]
Hype for the nuthuggers. Their hero cant possibly have ever lost a fight. It has to be because of something… oh, yeah an injury…in a tournament…he was the only one….only Chuck had an injury in the most violent tourney Pride ever held….yeah that’s it. If I whined as much as these guys at my job, my boss would fire me.[/quote]
Wow holy shit MTU you work?? how the hell do you post 1100 times and work? do you post at work or what? that’s crazy, I thought you were collecting a check and chilling on your laptop all day.[/quote]
Just kidding, bro.
I’m independently weathly. Lol, no, I wish. I left my former job so I could have time to find a better one. At my career level, it is almost impossible to have a job and also look for one. My last contract actually forbade me from seeking employment in the same field with a rival company, so to do so, I had to quit first. So, yes, lately I’ve had more time to post. Oh, and BLOodyMEss, your an ahole for bringing it up.
no offense bud just saying that I have alot of off time myself, being as I work mornings and usually check this site for news regularly, and there no way I could keep up with your posts and research. Dont get me wrong, cause i’m glad you do what you do and I learn alot from your posts, even though you can be an A hole!
[quote comment=”55665″]no offense bud just saying that I have alot of off time myself, being as I work mornings and usually check this site for news regularly, and there no way I could keep up with your posts and research. Dont get me wrong, cause i’m glad you do what you do and I learn alot from your posts, even though you can be an A hole![/quote]
Man, I was totally joking. Really. I thought you’d get that. Hence the smiley! Sorry if you took offense.
Its cool, by the way what a lazy fat slob that Georges St. Pierre is…
[quote post=”2098″]Speaking of excuses, what’s up with Chuck & him blaming injuries as reasons for his loss to Rampage in 2003? Or should I save that for another thread
Hype for the nuthuggers. Their hero cant possibly have ever lost a fight. It has to be because of something… oh, yeah an injury…in a tournament…he was the only one….only Chuck had an injury in the most violent tourney Pride ever held….yeah that’s it. If I whined as much as these guys at my job, my boss would fire me.[/quote]
Agreed. I wonder why fighters who win their fights despite being injured rarely bring those injuries to light after the fact? Hmmmmm……
[quote comment=”55679″][quote post=”2098″]Speaking of excuses, what’s up with Chuck & him blaming injuries as reasons for his loss to Rampage in 2003? Or should I save that for another thread
Hype for the nuthuggers. Their hero cant possibly have ever lost a fight. It has to be because of something… oh, yeah an injury…in a tournament…he was the only one….only Chuck had an injury in the most violent tourney Pride ever held….yeah that’s it. If I whined as much as these guys at my job, my boss would fire me.[/quote]
Agreed. I wonder why fighters who win their fights despite being injured rarely bring those injuries to light after the fact? Hmmmmm……[/quote]
Chuck said he was injured after he fought Tito last time
A fan of someone is a nuthugger? How can you question peoples emotional maturity and always resort to name calling when people stand for their fighter? Your not suppossed to think your fighters gonna lose the same way one can’t go into a fight thinking they’ll lose. Respect your opponent but believe i