Def wouldve been a better fight but parisyan gotta stop talkin and start worrying about his up coming fight.. o yea thats right hes doesnt train either

so much drama in the ufc lately wow…Parisyan is a tough fighter and i think will get his title shot after he beats burkman

Usually when a fighter talks shit (Ortiz, Sanchez, Koscheck) I lose a lot of respect for them, but godamn, Parisyan really calls it like it is, and the more shit he talks the more i seem to like him.

Woulda been a good fight. Also I think it’s no small coincidence how even the fighters ‘used to like Matt’ but now, not so much. I promise it’s not cause he lost his fight, just his respect.

Karo’s an awesome fighter. He should have fought matt instead of chris lytle. I like him, but he didn’t deserve matt hughes yet, nor was he ready, as was shown.

Anybody know how many fights burkman’s had since sam morgan? That was brutal, but karo’s a king in the clinch, it probably won’t happen to him.

Matt Hughes dominated the welterweight division for years. He lost to a great opponent, after nine succesful title defenses in his career. He was not given an immediate rematch, but had to fight an opponent first (when someone of his pedigree could have been given an immediate rematch, but for the TUF 4 situation). Why is Hughes being disrespected by Parysian, Serra, Sanchez and many on this blog?
Parysian does not deserve a title shot before Diego, who beat him. And, I for one am not sure he will even defeat Burkman. What happens if he loses, will he still be crying about how unfair everything is?
Hughes is a charitable guy that has ensured himself a place in the UFC Hall of Fame. Parysian is a better than average journeyman fighter that has a lot of work to do if he wants to be even mentioned in the same class as Hughes.

He does have some valid points. I have a feeling that Karo’s feeling he is not going to get that title shot anytime soon so might as well make some waves. I do agree 100% on how he feels about Matt Hughes.
I said it before and I’m saying it again, The UFC’s “giving” the Belt to Hughes b/c they like him and to make things more dramatic. Hughes resume has something to do with it, but it just doesn’t cut it for me.
GSP, It’s time to clean up the house.

Let’s get this straight. Karo definitely has a great point, but will talking ish about the UFC brass give him a better chance at a title shot? I’m sure they are getting sick of hearing this guy talk. It’s not a smart move on Karo’s part.
Memo to Karo:
Just shut up, beat burkman and make it an interesting fight. Then you will have to beat one more contender and you might get your title shot in 08. If you keep talking so much and lose, you will fall so far down the UFC rankings you just might see Tim Silvia.

umm heres the thing, he had a fight with Hughes back when hughes was champ and pulled out…he cant beat hughes…and he also got “manhandled” by GSP…why is he always in the news lately for talking shit??? Does he think he desreves a shot before Hughes??He just lost to Diego, and then beat Ficket…i dont know why hes even bringing this up

i’m not saying that hughes didn’t want the fight,but it does appear that dana and the ufc are protecting him. and i dont think karo pulled out of the 1rst time. he was injured so he couldn’t fight. i have to disagree that karo dosen’t have a chance against hughes. i’d say 50/50. maybe hughes did nix this fight to have an easier fight with lytle. i can’t say that i blame him his fought every top fighter in the division…… except karo.

I like watching Karo fight and something about Burkman rubs me the wrong way, but something about all of this carping, letigimate or not, doesn’t bode well. One of the reasons I like MMA more than boxing is that underdogs win at a surprising rate. I think Burkman is a B-level fighter, but if Karo keeps looking down the road like this, it’ll be Burkman looking for a title shot instead of Parisyan. One fight at a time, dude.

[quote comment=”52706″]umm heres the thing, he had a fight with Hughes back when hughes was champ and pulled out…he cant beat hughes…and he also got “manhandled” by GSP…why is he always in the news lately for talking shit??? Does he think he desreves a shot before Hughes??He just lost to Diego, and then beat Ficket…i dont know why hes even bringing this up[/quote]
I was thinking the same thing. Talk shit after you beat a top ten. I went to look up his record on FighterFinder, and Karo isnt listed? I was sure he was there last time.
Karo has losses to two of the top five, GSP and Diego, but he’s yapping about a title shot? Hughes doesnt deserve one? Karo, please, shut up and fight.

Do you guys think Ong Bak would do well in a UFC fight?

He sounds like a little girl!! Hughes deserves his shot as much as anyone, certainly way more than Karo. Add the bad blood between Hughes and Serra and the huge PPV it will draw.
People talk some stupid shit, when they dislike soneone and thats fine not to like a guy, but cmon, Hughes doesnt deserve it! LOL!

[quote comment=”52721″]Do you guys think Ong Bak would do well in a UFC fight?[/quote]

Your username fits!

Apparently every one can beat Hughes now so why doesn’t Hughes just retire? Karo is a good, decent fighter, but can you say ” sour grapes?” What a whiner, Hughes would kick his ass and I guarantee if ufc mania put up a poll on who would win matt would win by a land slide. Sherk man handled karo and Hughes man handled Sherk, karo would get man handled by Hughes and most know it. Every time he steps up to the plate against a top welter weight, he loses, not terribly but he still loses. Start beating top 10 guys karo first, and back up your big mouth for once. I hope burkman kicks his ass, I would laugh my ass off.

Hughes has beat the who’s who of the welter weight division, who has Karo beat?

serra and diaz are really his only notable wins, serra is better than he was back then, and the diaz fight could have gone either way…..ficket brings it, hes not top competition, but karo had a hard time with him….it just seems like everyone is getting better and better, but it doesnt look like Karo keeps progressing

Shoulda woulda coulda !

Karo needs to stop crying for real. He had his shot and got injured. That’s just life, shit happens. The welterweight division is packed with talent and they aren’t going to wait for just one guy. Doesn’t make sense that if Karo has to wait cause of an injury, everyone else should too. Just fall back in the line of contention. If he is truly championship material, he shouldn’t have a problem making it back to the top. Don’t get me wrong, I still like the guy. He just needs to tone the crying down,and stop acting he’s the best around and doesn’t train for his upcoming opponents. lol you know he does.

Does anybody know if Karo did something more than just getting injured to lose his title shot?

Why is everyone hating Matt Hughes? There may just be a reason. UFC is a business and if Karo beat Hughes, one of the UFC’s poster boys starts to look like he’s going down in flames. BUT, Karo should watch what he says, he might piss off the wrong guy….Dana White may be one of them.

[quote post=”2073″] Sherk man handled karo and Hughes man handled Sherk, karo would get man handled by Hughes and most know it[/quote]
Ok if you think that way!!Karo manhandled serra,serra manhandled gsp,gsp man handled matt hughes so karo will beat the shit out of hughes!! LOL isn’t that stupid??

I want to see this fight….Let them get it on. I wonder if Hughes have commented at all on Karo’s verbal attacks

Yes Karo did man handle Serra, but come on Serra didn’t man handle Gsp, in a wrestling match gsp would have destroyed serra, gsp got caught(stunned), end of story. Hughes never got man handled by Gsp, Hughes got out boxed, and then got kicked in the head, not my definition of man handled. To me man handled means out grappled, over powered, guess we see things differently. No way in hell could Serra or Karo, ” man handle ” either Hughes or Gsp, there too strong, enough said…..you know I’m right.

The ” Heat ” spoke from the heart and it’s true. In Matt Hughes postion I would want to avenge that loss asap. I feel that Karo needs a like two more impresive victories for that shot. Beating his next opponent convincing then lets see if the matchmaker’s of the ufc will put a Matt Hughes vs Karo Parisyan on a fight card. This would not be an easy fight for neither one. Hughes is a machine and Parisyan runs on Nitro fuel..it would be good match up to see..especially if they both let all hang out..leaving their hearts in the cage.

[quote comment=”52792″]Yes Karo did man handle Serra, but come on Serra didn’t man handle Gsp, in a wrestling match gsp would have destroyed serra, gsp got caught(stunned), end of story. Hughes never got man handled by Gsp, Hughes got out boxed, and then got kicked in the head, not my definition of man handled. To me man handled means out grappled, over powered, guess we see things differently. No way in hell could Serra or Karo, ” man handle ” either Hughes or Gsp, there too strong, enough said…..you know I’m right.[/quote]

I agree with what your saying entirely, but man handling isn’t exactly the object of the game. What GSP did to Hughes was quite impressive. What Serra did to GSP was a impressive as well, but can easily be described as a lucky punch. Point is MMA is not necessarily man handling someone. The W can come any many different forms. Thats what makes this sport so hard to predict. So in your argument Chuck Liddell didn’t man handle Couture at 52 or 57. I don’t think think anyone would argue that Liddell isn’t the more dominant fighter.

Rofl, great insight here….

Hughes being ‘protected..’ priceless! Especially when the vast majority of people considered GSP to be the best 170lb fighter in the world…

Karo needs to stop crying, and start grinding some heads. I dont care what the story is, you live in a fighters world… and bitching about things like this isnt gonna make Joe Silva wanna throw you against big names…Showing low class and smerts isnt gonna help the push to expand MMA by the UFC.

Ok guys, here is the real truth of the matter.

UFC need a definitive system in order to determine who gets a title shot.

Also, title shots need to happen within 4 months of each other, unless injury prevents.

This whole system of who beat who a year or two ago is meaningless. Atheletes train and get better, or in some cases they slack and get worse. Some learn how to crush heads, some learn to crush a case of beer. It happens, they’re people too.

What really sucks for people like Parisyan, GSP, Koscheck, Sanchez, is that they have to wait forever for this stupid Hughes vs Serra fight so they can do anouther shitty reality TV show.

On a side note, this is why UFC should have tournaments, so fighters who don’t get the chance for a title shot, still have a chance to earn some recognition.

I DON’T WANT THE DRAMA, I WANT THE SPORT!

Karo is a great fighter, and I respect him. That said: his whining about not getting the chance to fight Hughes is almost as bad as Hughes’ look of glee when GSP got KO’d. The past is the past. Karo got injured during training for his original shot, and then the fight never materialized for UFC 68. As BJ would say: “It’s done. Don’t look back.”

Karo might want to focus on the guy in front of him (Burkman). He’s got plenty of UFC upsets to look at to remind him of the dangers of getting distracted.

I never meant for man handling to be the “object” of the game, my only point was I strongly disagreed with serra man handling gsp, which like you, I feel was more a lucky punch. Of course “man handling” isn’t the point, I just don’t believe Gsp has EVER being man handled(over powered). Yes he lost fair and square, not convincingly in either case though, meaning if the fight would have progress you got the impression he would have lost. I’m a huge gsp fan and kind of a hughes fan too as you can probably tell, enough said.

tounrey wont solve evrything…how many excuses are there in pride when one fighter had a tough fight, then an hour later he has to fight a guy that KOed his comp in less than a minute…there will always be something to bitch about….Karo is nothing more than a gate keeper, thats it…the guys in title contention are serra, hughes, GSp and Koscheck…thats it, it sucks that they are draggin out the serra hughes fight, but whatever i guess everyone has to wait

[quote comment=”52814″]tounrey wont solve evrything…how many excuses are there in pride when one fighter had a tough fight, then an hour later he has to fight a guy that KOed his comp in less than a minute…there will always be something to bitch about….Karo is nothing more than a gate keeper, thats it…the guys in title contention are serra, hughes, GSp and Koscheck…thats it, it sucks that they are draggin out the serra hughes fight, but whatever i guess everyone has to wait[/quote]

There are alot of excuses if it includes BTT, does any team as a whole have more excuses then BTT?

Man, Karo had a lot to say about Hughes above and beyond the usual pre-fight smack. I hope they do fight. I think everyone wants to fight Hughes now. That probably wasn’t true a couple years ago when he seemed invincible.

[quote comment=”52686″]Karo’s an awesome fighter. He should have fought matt instead of chris lytle. I like him, but he didn’t deserve matt hughes yet, nor was he ready, as was shown.
[/quote]
Well what would happen if Hughes won a split decision over Karo? Karo would get sent back down again. Think this works out best. Burkman is very tough and it would be a solid win. If he loses to Burkman, well dude, can’t help ya.

Did karo get screwed out of his title shot…..maybe, I mean he got hurt and then got bumped where as GSP got hurt and they postponed the fight till he was better as soon as he got better he got his shot. Karo was never given that opportunity.

But…….the bottom line is……you’re in the UFC, shut the eff up and be happy your fighting in the worlds biggest MMA org. title shot or not you’re way better off than the thousands of other fighters out there who will never get that opportunity. And be thankful you haven’t got your ass dropped for losing fights like some of the newer fighters who only get one chance to win.

Bottom line, don’t take your opportunity to be in the UFC for granted. They’ll give you a title shot when they feel like it and if they don’t then just be happy you got to fight for them to begin with.

[quote post=”2073″]There are alot of excuses if it includes BTT, does any team as a whole have more excuses then BTT? [/quote]
Anyone been reading about Bustamante being pissed at Big Nog for not consulting with BTT before he signed?

OH GOD, Mania please make that Big Nog in the post above. Lol, its funny but might be taken the wrong way, and I am definitely not that way. PLEASE EDIT THE TYPO ABOVE!

Here’s the BTT story:
http://www.mmaontap.com/mma/entry/bustamante-and-minotauro-have-disagreement-over-nogueiras-ufc-contract/

[quote post=”2073″]Karo, please, shut up and fight.[/quote]
[quote post=”2073″]Karo might want to focus on the guy in front of him (Burkman). He’s got plenty of UFC upsets to look at to remind him of the dangers of getting distracted. [/quote]
[quote post=”2073″]If he loses to Burkman, well dude, can’t help ya. [/quote]
All great points. After losing to Diego you would think that Karo would be working more and talking less. I think Karo is a great fighter and if he HANDILY dispatches of Burkman, he will get another big fight and then maybe a title shot.
With the delay until the WW title fight after TUF6, there is plenty of time for ALL the WWs to get in a couple of fights.

[quote comment=”52738″]Sherk man handled karo and Hughes man handled Sherk, karo would get man handled by Hughes and most know it.[/quote]
But that’s not always the case. You can take three guys in totally different leagues and be pretty sure A beats B beats C means A beats C (huh?!) like Arlovski beats Herring and Herring whoops my momma. That case will work. But among top contenders it’s too hard to say. Serra beat GSP and GSP beat Hughes so Serra is definitely going to beat Hughes right? I’d like to see numbers on the common opponent issue. You have to vet the opponents though- can’t just pick any 3.

MMA math dosnt work, bottom line.

Mamas Boy,
Great points… Just to add, common opponents hardly work because of the time between fights…and we know fighters are not the same skill level from year to year, even fight to fight.
Plus, add the fact that an upset is now commonplace … anything can and does happen in MMA. All these comparisons between fighters are really non sequitur until fight night.

I agree with karo. Matt Hughes hasn’t really earned another shot at the title after getting his ass handed to him by GSP to lose the belt and then squeaking out an unanimous decision against chris Lytle. like come on does everyone who beats chris Lytle get a shot at the belt?? (Serra, now Hughes) your next in line Joslin!!! You shouldn’t mistake karo’s comments as whinning because the guy does have a point. So the winner of Burkman/Parisyan should get a title shot. Even if karo gets his title shot and loses he still deserves one. 6-2 in the UFC i think the record speaks for itself.

why are unanimous decisions considered squeaking it out now??

hughes had a rematch clause in his contract anyway that gave him a shot at his title back right away, he chose to have another fight first so he could get back to fighting the way matt hughes fights…

Lets be real he earned his shot no matter how you look at it.

Just because you dont LIKE a fighter ( I cant stand Hughes ), doesnt mean he sucks or doesnt deserve something. Hughes is a legend, period. He was there way back when, when the guys used to travel around in vans like high school rock bands. They stayed six to a room, were lucky if they got paid enough money to make it to the next town, they shared meals, they fought in Uncle Joes barnyard, they were lucky if the doctor at ringside had ever even treated fighter injuries. Many of you are new, and welcome to the sport. Dont dis a guy because you dont like him. Hughes has proven time and again what a great fighter he is, and yes with his length of reign as champion, he deserves a chance to get his title back, period.

[quote comment=”52721″]Do you guys think Ong Bak would do well in a UFC fight?[/quote]
I’m pretty sure in the movie Ong Bak is the name of a celebration, that happens once every 24 years. Maybe you’re talking about Tony Jaa and know he would get owned in the ufc.

I totally think that Karo has all the tools to beat Matt Hughes.

[quote comment=”52889″]why are unanimous decisions considered squeaking it out now??[/quote]
Serious, Hughes didn’t squek it out with Lytle. He DOMINATED Lytle. didn’t inflict the damage we might have hoped, might not have been way exciting, but he dominated non the less.

Totally agree mtufc Hughes does deserves it, karo doesn’t period. Hughes had a bad night against one of the best fighters in the world ( gsp ) and now he doesn’t deserve anything? Thats bull shit. Gsp did make Hughes look bad, probably the reason these guys are coming out of the wood work now who think they can beat Hughes, I think there mis lead, anyone can have a bad night. Like mtufc said Hughes is a legend and has proven himself time and time again, 9 titles and 7 title defenses, amazing. I personally don’t hate Hughes and am sort of a fan even though I was really turned off by him the way he behaved on tuff 2. When Hughes and Gsp fought I was more of a Hughes fan than a Gsp fan but now I’m a Huge Gsp fan, Gsp’s personality won me over. Bottom line, Hughes is a great fighter and the most dominate welter weight of all time, he deserves his title shot.

Hughes just came off a loss to GSP.His next fight was supposed to be Karo,instead they change it and put in Lytle.Hughes pulls off an unimpressive win.I think Hughes is being protected.

[quote comment=”52917″]I totally think that Karo has all the tools to beat Matt Hughes.[/quote]
Any welter weight according to Hughes has all the tools to beat him on any given night, anything can happen in mma. Karo could beat Hughes but Hughes could also beat Karo, if they fought 10 times I think Hughes would get more wins though. A lot act as if Hughes has no chance against gsp, well thats just not true, he had a bad night when they fought last time, just as gsp had a bad night against serra. I do think gsp is a better fighter than Hughes and think if they fought 10 times Gsp would get more wins, but Gsp is a stud and in my opinion one of the best fighters in the world, pound for pound. Karo is a good fighter also but not in hughes or gsps league, just my opinion.

A real champ would want to fight the best! especially when the best just beat him, no instead this fake is happy as a pig in shit to NOT have to fight him. He would rather have the belt after beating Lytle and Serra than risk not having it by fighting Parisyan and St. Pierre. Point blank for all you die hard Matt Hughes fans, your boys a chump.

Oh and PS. your only as good as your last fight in this business…

[quote post=”2073″]Oh and PS. your only as good as your last fight in this business…[/quote]
That’s not true dude, eveybody like him or not can still appreciate the accomplishments Matt has under his belt.
I agree with what you say, Matt even said he could wait to fight St. Pierre. He dosnt have the mind set like St. Pierre, or Penn, who don’t even want to fight anybody but the best. That dosnt mean he can’t hang with the best though, he just seems to have the attitude of a chump sometimes, but he is no chump.

[quote post=”2073″]But the same evening they asked me to fight him, they texted me and said you’re not going to fight him[/quote]

Actual text message from Joe Silva:
[quote]JK! ROLFMAO kk bye[/quote]

[quote comment=”52948″]Hughes just came off a loss to GSP.His next fight was supposed to be Karo,instead they change it and put in Lytle.Hughes pulls off an unimpressive win.I think Hughes is being protected.[/quote]

what was so unimpressive in his win over lytle, everybody keeps saying that…lytle is good and hughes did what he wanted to against him, serra couldn’t do that…

[quote comment=”52957″]
Oh and PS. your only as good as your last fight in this business…[/quote]

No way dude.

If the UFC was smart, they would set fight cards with Hughes that should have happened in the past.

Why is the guy getting a title shot so soon?

Like I’ve said before, it is all a setup. UFC is managed like any business. If it was all about true talent, we wouldn’t see half the fights we have seen on PPV.

If Hughes wants to earn his way back to a title shot, he need to step through Karo, Kos and Diego first

i agree that karo dosen’t deserve a title shot before hughes being that he lost to diego, but isn’t the main point here that he deserved a shot at hughes at 68, a non title match. i do think that karo should be more repectful to hughes also, but i think karo has a legitimate beef. so what if he beats burkman he still has to wait behind hughes,gsp,kos and probably fitch not to mention possible rematches between these guys.that could be years, where if he fought hughes at 68 and won he would be one of the first in line. oh well he better just keep winning.

how did Hughes earn a title shot so quickly? He got pounded by GSP then beat a guy who hasn’t done much in the UFC yet he get’s a title shot? And i never said i didn’t like Hughes he is a great fighter. All I’m saying is Karo deserves his shot especially when they were about to give him it before his injury. So your telling me GSP should be next to challenge the winner of Serra/Hughes if he wins his next fight? Karo’s a great fighter and he definatley deserves a shot at the title.

[quote comment=”52677″]Def wouldve been a better fight but parisyan gotta stop talkin and start worrying about his up coming fight.. o yea thats right hes doesnt train either[/quote]
Yeah that’s right,,,,he gotta stop that… what would happen after these talking lose the fight to burkman?????

Can you blame the guy, anyone who talks shit about someone and can get some “bad blood”
in the mix seems to get fights, maybe if he pisses HUghes off enough, Hughes will ask to fight him. Everyone is saying he should stop talking, and I understand why, but who wouldnt be pissed about that, its not like hes Tito calling every one names or anything. Also, I heardTony Jaa Trains pretty hard, like 8 hours a day for kickboxing, he could have a chance at lightweight or something.

Since the topic came up again, Id like to say, maybe Bruce Lee would get his ass kicked in mma today, but he was a pioneer of mma. When everyone else was teaching forms and katas, he was advocating no fixed style and constantly being open to new improvements. You could say Jeet Kune do is the fist mma. And also, to say “we’ve seen jeet kune do in mma, and it doesnt work”, is like watching a fight where some kickboxer loses, and then saying Chuck liddell wouldnt do well cause we’ve seen kick boxing lose. Every individual is different. If Bruce was alive today I bet he would be more on top of the mma game/science/peak training then Randy Couture. I know we will never know cause hes dead, but lets just all agree with me okay!

[quote comment=”53214″]Since the topic came up again, Id like to say, maybe Bruce Lee would get his ass kicked in mma today, but he was a pioneer of mma. When everyone else was teaching forms and katas, he was advocating no fixed style and constantly being open to new improvements. You could say Jeet Kune do is the fist mma. And also, to say “we’ve seen jeet kune do in mma, and it doesnt work”, is like watching a fight where some kickboxer loses, and then saying Chuck liddell wouldnt do well cause we’ve seen kick boxing lose. Every individual is different. If Bruce was alive today I bet he would be more on top of the mma game/science/peak training then Randy Couture. I know we will never know cause hes dead, but lets just all agree with me okay![/quote]
Didnt Bruce Lee despise Judo, the primary tactic in use in MMA today other than boxing? ( Jujitsu is a subclass of Judo ). Correct me if I’m wrong on that. I’ve always heard he thought thought most locks were to dangerous to try to use in real life. That’s why he promoted “longest weapon first” the straight sidekick.

[quote comment=”52957″]A real champ would want to fight the best! especially when the best just beat him, no instead this fake is happy as a pig in shit to NOT have to fight him. He would rather have the belt after beating Lytle and Serra than risk not having it by fighting Parisyan and St. Pierre. Point blank for all you die hard Matt Hughes fans, your boys a chump.

Oh and PS. your only as good as your last fight in this business…[/quote]
Totally disagree, Hughes would fight anyone in the division, and if you think he’s scared of karo your nuts, everyone has good and bad nights, if hughes was only good as his last fight back when he lost to dennis hallman in 20 seconds he should have thrown in the towel right? Uh no he then went on to become the most dominant welter weight in history, enough said.

Hughes is like a teenage kid who butts inline at the movie theaters. Instead of waiting inline like everyone else he skips right to the front. And good for him if he gets away with it but everyone else who sees him do it (Karo Parisyan) get’s pissed off. Of course he’s entitled for a shot at the title duh, but how does he get it without fighting another fighter who’s worthy of the same thing.

Totally disagree, Hughes would fight anyone in the division, and if you think he’s scared of karo your nuts, everyone has good and bad nights, if hughes was only good as his last fight back when he lost to dennis hallman in 20 seconds he should have thrown in the towel right? Uh no he then went on to become the most dominant welter weight in history, enough said.

I agree nathan good point

Hughes dominated for longer than anybody, lost one fight and was dethroned, what makes anybody think he should get another chance ot prove he really isnt champ anymore. Losing won fight after doing what he did is not at all desisive. He needs a title shot so we can figure out the pecking order of the division.

[quote comment=”53359″]Hughes is like a teenage kid who butts inline at the movie theaters. Instead of waiting inline like everyone else he skips right to the front. And good for him if he gets away with it but everyone else who sees him do it (Karo Parisyan) get’s pissed off. Of course he’s entitled for a shot at the title duh, but how does he get it without fighting another fighter who’s worthy of the same thing.[/quote]
Well well karo actual beats a fighter in the top 10 let me know o.k.

sorry…my bad I meant, Well “when” karo beats a fighter in the top 10 let me know o.k. To add to the quote above, hughes got to the front of the line in the first place by cleaning out the division, karo keeps losing to top guys, he would be at the front of the line too if he actually won against sherk,gsp and diego but the fact is he came up short…boo hoo.

Hughes probably had the choice of either fighting Karo or Chris Lytle, and chose Lytle for the easier fight (not that it ended up being a good fight for him). Hughes without a doubt is stronger than Karo, but Karo has skills and I think he would give Hughes a problem. Karo is a lot more technical than Lytle and Hughes was crap against Lylte in fact he’s lucky that the useless referee didn’t stand them up a lot more, any other referee would have done when there was nothing happening on the ground. Karo has a very good chin he just need to work on his cardio a bit.
I give Hughes repect for what he’s accomplished, but I can’t stand his attitude and I think he’s boring to watch unlike Karo. When he fights BJ again, he wont be so lucky, he was getting destroyed. The UFC really does need to find a ligit and fair way of deciding how fighters advance towards a title shot, they just seem to make it up as they go along.

[quote comment=”52792″]Yes Karo did man handle Serra, but come on Serra didn’t man handle Gsp, in a wrestling match gsp would have destroyed serra, gsp got caught(stunned), end of story. Hughes never got man handled by Gsp, Hughes got out boxed, and then got kicked in the head, not my definition of man handled. To me man handled means out grappled, over powered, guess we see things differently. No way in hell could Serra or Karo, ” man handle ” either Hughes or Gsp, there too strong, enough said…..you know I’m right.[/quote]

Karo did not manhandle Serra; he almost got his ass knocked out in the first 30 seconds…..have you guys even watched that fight, cause I have several times. He won a close decision. On the other hand, Serra absolutely did manhandle GSP. Rarely have I seen such a one-sided fight. I say this despite the fact that I believe GSP will make a big comeback. But in that fight, he got rocked, not once but several times. Even he admitted as much afterward. He stated that he just got beat by the better fighter that night.