Bwhaha. Sometimes us he-pimps needs to slap our man-whores.

That was a great slap..I think Werdum should have kept his fist closed for that strike…but maybe werdum was saying to himself”i’m gonna slap this dude”…haha..it was funny though….Although it was a fight that pissed me off..i’m happy that AA prevailed..he’s got alot riding for himself…..
AA definately was a different fighter that night…UFC 70 was the most messed show i’ve watched…even when Herb Dean stated”I’ll take a point away from the next man that backs away…that was new for me…yeah i don’t know what to say about the card..still going through my head!,,
..See ya..

If you pay close attention to the fight, atleast half of the strikes Werdum threw ( and most missed ) were open hand slaps. I guess it’s his style, he must think the louder the hit the more it hurts or something. could have cost him the fight

[quote comment="41080"]If you pay close attention to the fight, atleast half of the strikes Werdum threw ( and most missed ) were open hand slaps. I guess it’s his style, he must think the louder the hit the more it hurts or something. could have cost him the fight[/quote]
Also noticed the many open-handed “hits” from Werdum. Doesn’t want to bruise his knuckles, or maybe thought UFC fighters were easier to knock down. hehehe What was up with Herb this weekend? Between the (much deserved but surprising) warning to AA and Werdum and the puzzling standing up of CC and GG, Herb seemed to be a little short on patience. Maybe there were a few “better get this moving and generate some action or we’re in big trouble” looks from Dana in the front row.

if he would have closed his fist he would have knocked AA punk ass out. I was soooo disappointed with this fight. i cant believe how AA did not destroy werdum after he dropped him with that uppercut nor did he even seem to have any offensive game plan other than staying away from him and popping the jab. i really cant see him ever being champ again with his lack of aggression. randy will push him into a corner and gnp him and gonzaga will push him into fighting his type of fight which will lead him to defeat. i dont even know if he can beat vera. AA is falling off in my opinion and doesnt seem as confident as he was in his past

AA is still a good fighter…Werdum was back pedaling the whole time, and fell to the ground a lot trying to get AA to take the bait….AA good have been more aggresive when werdum actually did throw some punch or slaps, but there was no way he should have went to the ground with him…AA deserved the win, if anyone did, and im sure we will see more from him later……Werdum needs to work his wrestlng skills so he can dictate wether the fight goes to the ground or now…also needs to close his fists when he bunches…hes not Bas, and cant drop a full grown man with a slap….

I think AA executed a perfect game plan. He admitted in the post fight interview, that he did not want to engage in a ju Jitsu math with Werdum. Yeah, the way he won was boring, but He won. that solidifies his ranking in the heavyweight division, and lets hope he gets someone who likes to bang in the next fight. I am thinking it will be him against cro cop with the winner taking on the winner of couture/gonzaga match. Oh that will be some fight

this is what i have been posting about. werdum was to afraid to commit to a closed hand punch, he didnt want to get knocked out. werdum said before the fight that he would prove that he belonged in the ufc. all he proved to me is that he could go the distance with the former champ. i said it before and i,ll say it again this was a bad fight because of werdum.

Yeah forsure. I agree with all on how AA played his game and not Wedums game..AA’s a smart fighter now. I hope he continues to challenge the best. And Werdum trying to take a page out of Bas’s book didn’t work for him..i agree totally with that..Bas can do that openhand stuff and get away with it..Werdum, in my opinion had a chance..but didn’t go for it..oh well.
..See ya..

I think Werdum thought he was in Pancrase. I agree that Arlovski was playing his game. At the end, he was cleary winning and knew that it was up to Werdum to make something happen. Why would you rush in and break the game plan that had been working all fight, just because the other guy refuses to work for a victory? I’m all for entertainment, but this is a sport too.

I thought both fighters did a poor job of pressing the action. AA should change his nickname from the Pitbull to the Poodle, because he wasn’t acting like one. He hasn’t been the same since the Timmy fights.

[quote comment="41109"]I think AA executed a perfect game plan. He admitted in the post fight interview, that he did not want to engage in a ju Jitsu math with Werdum. Yeah, the way he won was boring, but He won. that solidifies his ranking in the heavyweight division, and lets hope he gets someone who likes to bang in the next fight. I am thinking it will be him against cro cop with the winner taking on the winner of couture/gonzaga match. Oh that will be some fight[/quote]
Oh yeah, I agree. Couture-Gonzaga winner fights AA-CC winner. Good fights all around. It will be interesting to see how AA handles a fighter that actually pushes the action. In hindsight I suppose AA did fight the smart fight, and Werdum did absolutely nothing to take the fight to him. Not counting the bitch slap, of course. Still, it seems AA could have ended the fight right after he knocked Werdum down with the uppercut.

I did notice this, and half the crowd in my house did as well. “I can’t believe he bitch slapped him” Not a good strategy on Werdum’s thinking…LOL. AA handled the fight perfectly. He looked very composed, but cautious not to run into a lucky punch from werdum’s end. In Werdum’case all he had left was that lucky punch. AA had him on the heels the whole fight. I think there was a moment in the end of the first where Werdum landed a couple in a row and it did nothing. Arlovski than returned the punches and you could see it in Werdum’s eyes that he wanted nothing to do with it.

I see Arlovski was actually fighting Ric Flair hence why it was such a snoozer…Wooooooo!

[quote comment="41127"]I thought both fighters did a poor job of pressing the action. AA should change his nickname from the Pitbull to the Poodle, because he wasn’t acting like one. He hasn’t been the same since the Timmy fights.[/quote]

No aa is not the same..he’s a better and more smart fighter. AA hasnt lost a fight since then..so tell me..has AA got worse, i think not..he’s better than he ever was..and dude’s right.. “I’m all for entertainment, but this is a sport too” i totally agree Mahde……….
..See ya..

[quote comment="41152"][quote comment="41127"]I thought both fighters did a poor job of pressing the action. AA should change his nickname from the Pitbull to the Poodle, because he wasn’t acting like one. He hasn’t been the same since the Timmy fights.[/quote]

No aa is not the same..he’s a better and more smart fighter. AA hasnt lost a fight since then..so tell me..has AA got worse, i think not..he’s better than he ever was..and dude’s right.. “I’m all for entertainment, but this is a sport too” i totally agree Mahde……….
..See ya..[/quote]

Smarter fighter yes…AA symbolizes a changed man after defeat, but definetly for the better.

AA’s inability to finish-off a clueless Werdum makes AA look like a second tier fighter.

i freakin knew it! that was a bitch slap! all my friends didnt believe me that werdum slapped aa.

and remember andre is only 27. he’s only going to get better. he looks older because of the beard and hes been around for a while

Glad to see most are smart posters. AA followed a gameplan set in place by his trainers against an equally ranked heavyweight fighter. He kept his distance to see the shot coming and sprawled powerfully when it did. He made a top ten heavyweight fighter look like an amateur. He was patient, and knew he needed that win. The only pleasure I took from seeing Crop Cop get killed was Joe Rogan having to eat all his comments about CC during the Arlovski fight, making AA seem way inferior to CC. AA left with a win, CC barely left alive.

No one should blame this on AA, for a boring fight. Werdum was backin off the whole time, waving AA to come to the floor wit him and he just stood there one time, trying to be some tough guy. It was embarrassing. AA had a game play, he got a head in scoring and made Werdum try to do something to win. And Werdum never did. solid victory for the pitbull

[quote comment="41127"]I thought both fighters did a poor job of pressing the action. AA should change his nickname from the Pitbull to the Poodle, because he wasn’t acting like one. He hasn’t been the same since the Timmy fights.[/quote]

AGREED. There isn’t a killer instinct there anymore. I thought most of this card was boring except for the devastating CC knock out. Bisping beat up Elvis (so what), AA squeaked a decision, and Kongo still looks extremely weak in the ground game. Weak card imo.

gg 4 aa. he stuck to his plan no matter how badly he wanted to rush @ him w/ a vicious mauling. winner of couture-gonzaga gets winner of aa-?(kongo), cc gets vera. who should aa get nxt?

AA in with Kongo, Nog with Vera, winners fight each other for title shot.

[quote comment="41231"]AA in with Kongo, Nog with Vera, winners fight each other for title shot.[/quote]

I think AA should get next shot after Counture/GG. Nog/Vera should go down, and Sylvia/Kongo. The winners of these two fights should fight eachother most likely (Nog/Sylvia). AA will than fight winner of Randy/GG. Winner of that one will boviously be Champ with next fight being against winner of Nog/Vera/Sylvia/Kongo.

Hate to say it, but I don’t think Kongo can hang with this crowd. Not without MUCH ground work, that is.

I thought AA took a page out of Tim Silvia’s book… just do enough to win. Not impressed, but he needed that win and he stuck to his gameplan. No that Cro Cop is coming off a loss put him and Tim Silvia together for a getting back on track bought for both these guys. Andre should be on the same card a Couture vs Gonzaga, and with a win he should get title shot.

I’m a huge AA fan but ya’ll can defend him as much as you want, AA did not deserve to win. He took a lot of shots when they exchanged, and seems gun shy there after. Just not the same AA we once knew. What a dissappointment.

Just seems like all the fighters I route for is falling off the chart, one by one. What the hell is going on here????

I fell the same way Loc Dang, the fighters we once knew are no more. These guys are all falling off. Whats going on? Its a new day i guess.

thats quite funny that aa got rocked way a slap

Thank-god i wasnt the only one to see that….doesnt he actually do it twice tho….thats what i thought. Stupid on werdum part. THat should have been a tough fight for him….u have #6 and #7 fighting, u have a perfect opp to give a nice blow to the face and he open hands it….OMG. Just shows how bad werdum wanted that fight

Whose your bitch now!!!

[quote comment="41158"][quote comment="41152"][quote comment="41127"]I thought both fighters did a poor job of pressing the action. AA should change his nickname from the Pitbull to the Poodle, because he wasn’t acting like one. He hasn’t been the same since the Timmy fights.[/quote]

No aa is not the same..he’s a better and more smart fighter. AA hasnt lost a fight since then..so tell me..has AA got worse, i think not..he’s better than he ever was..and dude’s right.. “I’m all for entertainment, but this is a sport too” i totally agree Mahde……….
..See ya..[/quote]

Smarter fighter yes…AA symbolizes a changed man after defeat, but definetly for the better.[/quote]

its definately a sport, do people boo football players for kneeling down and running the clock out instead of risking one last play that could lose them the game? Another thing is Arlovski hung with an equally ranked heavyweight fighter and IMO convincingly won. So what if he was patient and stuck to his gameplan and won without the KO? He made 90 grand to show and 90 grand to win plus endorsements back in december so I assume it was the same here. He was probably like “fuck the boo’s i’m making 90 thousand more dollars to keep it standing.”

i take when he trained with CC it was just ground work

Tim Sylvia fought smart fights against Jeff Monson and Arlovski and ground out boring decisions to keep his belt, but that doesn’t make me a fan. I’ve always liked Arlovski but it’s also his resposiblity to press the action and finish a fight.

AA looked very bad IMO. “I would rather look awesome in defeat than weak in victory” It will be hard for him to make another 90 grand night after that performance.

I fight in the RFC and everyone needs to “FIGHT”!! .. Fighting is what you are getting paid for. Don’t compare this sport to Football, that’s a weak copout and this is no team sport! MMA pro fighters are paid to fight period!! Not dance around for three rounds just to show off your condom shorts. Who ever heard of a fighter being sponsored by a condom store? AA is on his way out and UFC 70 sealed the deal!!

I don’t think I can ever get excited about another AA fight again. his gameplan going in…keep the distance, keep the distance. he said it himself.

ended up being just like the 3rd sylvia fight. this is starting to be a trend in AA’s gameplan and it blows. i really hope he stops listening to his trainer because the strategy of keeping distance doesn’t win fights. it just keeps you from losing!

aa has always been a retaliatory fighter, meaning he responds to an agressive opponent rather than taking the initiative.
in his defense he displayed awesome takedown defense and a cool head instead of rushing into another sylvia upset scenario.
which would have been a hugh mistake on the ground .
he’s learning.
dana and rogan have this illusion that every fight of every event should be a donnybrook, phillibuster with haymakers thrown constantly—– won’t happen guys, even if the fans want it.
aa showed good smarts.

[quote comment="41964"]aa has always been a retaliatory fighter, meaning he responds to an agressive opponent rather than taking the initiative.
in his defense he displayed awesome takedown defense and a cool head instead of rushing into another sylvia upset scenario.
which would have been a hugh mistake on the ground .
he’s learning.
dana and rogan have this illusion that every fight of every event should be a donnybrook, phillibuster with haymakers thrown constantly—– won’t happen guys, even if the fans want it.
aa showed good smarts.[/quote]

Enough said!………………..
..See ya..

[quote post="1899"]aa has always been a retaliatory fighter, meaning he responds to an agressive opponent rather than taking the initiative.
in his defense he displayed awesome takedown defense and a cool head instead of rushing into another sylvia upset scenario.
which would have been a hugh mistake on the ground .
he’s learning.
dana and rogan have this illusion that every fight of every event should be a donnybrook, phillibuster with haymakers thrown constantly—— won’t happen guys, even if the fans want it.
aa showed good smarts. [/quote]
This guy gets the idea. AA trained a certain way for werdum, and Werdum done nothing to make me believe he could take AA down. Im sure that if Arlovski Vs. Cro Cop is next the AA will probably train more to press the action on CC.

OK TP maybe yeah. It doesn’t display the ability to actually think and adjust in the fight though. He trains hard for a certain way and if it doesn’t go that way AA seems to get a little stuck in a rut. So far I’m still a little disappointed. He needs to learn to adjust more and for god sake at Least throw 5x the leg kicks, it will get him somewhere eventually.

[quote comment="42035"]OK TP maybe yeah. It doesn’t display the ability to actually think and adjust in the fight though. He trains hard for a certain way and if it doesn’t go that way AA seems to get a little stuck in a rut. So far I’m still a little disappointed. He needs to learn to adjust more and for god sake at Least throw 5x the leg kicks, it will get him somewhere eventually.[/quote]

True…AA could have taken Werdum out with kicks….Still though..AA proved even a man with a great BJJ background will have a hard time with him…AA/CC…will probably contain nothing but stand-up…so that should make up for this previous bout..AA has places to go and people to beat..it’s not like AA blew the fight..Hes didn’t hype himself up for a loss he trained himself for a win..so say what you will boys..

I agree with the leg kicks. He was nailing Werdum with them in the 1st and then slacked off. I really think Werdum was just a bad match for AA. Although its up to AA to train himself to be a more complete fighter and that is something he lacks at the moment. Guys like Couture and now Gonzaga would be a bad night for the pitbull.

[quote comment="42056"]I agree with the leg kicks. He was nailing Werdum with them in the 1st and then slacked off. I really think Werdum was just a bad match for AA. Although its up to AA to train himself to be a more complete fighter and that is something he lacks at the moment. Guys like Couture and now Gonzaga would be a bad night for the pitbull.[/quote]

yeah i hear ya…AA has too be able to adjust and adapt to any fighter that comes his way..I’m still convinced AA is competition for the big leagues…another topic though…I’m searting to think even Fedor will take a downhill fighting career in the UFC…What do you think?

Arlovski never was afraid to eat a puch before. I think the KO delivered by timmie messed him up!!! I wanna see the old arlovski….u can tell he wanted werdum to press the fight, it seemed like thats what was prob going thru werdums head too, he wanted to be careful not to lose but without werdum pressing he couldnt make it exciting…cuz there where points in the fight where they clashed pretty good but he doesnt want to get caught again….he wouldnt be shamed as much i think lossing to werdum but i wouldnt see y he wouldnt have felt that way after timmie…it seems pathetic for anyone to lose against him!!

[quote post="1899"]yeah i hear ya…AA has too be able to adjust and adapt to any fighter that comes his way..I’m still convinced AA is competition for the big leagues…another topic though…I’m searting to think even Fedor will take a downhill fighting career in the UFC…What do you think? [/quote]

Fedor shows obviously the best consistency out of anybody in MMA. Ive been thinking about the past few months and Randy’s win wasnt really an upset. I believe GSP just wasnt mentally ready for Serra, Probably out of the respect factor that they have for each other. GSP has said before that he is a very mechanical fighter but once he faces someone he has respect for he has trouble performing. Or so it seems to me. Cro Cops lost seemed mental in a way as well. I believe he tought he could come to the UFC and dominate. He doesnt train for each specific fight. He goes into each fight and adjusts to what his instincts tell him. IMO its better to form a gameplan first and adjust from there.
What im getting at is it would be hard to form a gameplan against a guy Fedor because he doesnt have as many holes in his game. But if Fedor came to the UFC like Cro Cop and expects to dominate and just Feel his way through fights it is possible he could lose.

couldnt say it better team pitbull…also there was word that GSP only trained 4 weeks also…apprently he went on vacation for a week and when he got back he got sick which pressed the time even more for him…have u heard any of this??

[quote comment="42138"][quote post="1899"]yeah i hear ya…AA has too be able to adjust and adapt to any fighter that comes his way..I’m still convinced AA is competition for the big leagues…another topic though…I’m searting to think even Fedor will take a downhill fighting career in the UFC…What do you think? [/quote]

Fedor shows obviously the best consistency out of anybody in MMA. Ive been thinking about the past few months and Randy’s win wasnt really an upset. I believe GSP just wasnt mentally ready for Serra, Probably out of the respect factor that they have for each other. GSP has said before that he is a very mechanical fighter but once he faces someone he has respect for he has trouble performing. Or so it seems to me. Cro Cops lost seemed mental in a way as well. I believe he tought he could come to the UFC and dominate. He doesnt train for each specific fight. He goes into each fight and adjusts to what his instincts tell him. IMO its better to form a gameplan first and adjust from there.
What im getting at is it would be hard to form a gameplan against a guy Fedor because he doesnt have as many holes in his game. But if Fedor came to the UFC like Cro Cop and expects to dominate and just Feel his way through fights it is possible he could lose.[/quote]

Fair enough…I understand
..See ya..

Yeah there was a post on this site a few days back where GSP’s trainer made those claims. Regardless even with only 4 weeks of training, at GSP’s level he should have been able to go in there and take Serra out. He just wasnt there mentally IMO.

[quote post="1899"]I think Werdum thought he was in Pancrase[/quote]
Those strikes did look eerily like Pancrase palm strikes. Either he was trying to hit AA with the triangle bone ( one of the hardest bones in the body ), or Mirko was goofing on him when he trained him, “Yeah, Fabricio, you punch like this….”

this suks!!!!!!!!

what happenened here then,I was sure arlovski was gonna win and I read responses saying that im just another guy who knows nothing of MMA.
Well whoever it was that said that so confidently,I guess I know more than you.
Werdum those moves might work on your bitch when shes not getting the housework done or maby letting her cooking skills slip a bit,but it aint gonna work on the pitbull.

hehe funny funny stuff.

Werdum bitch slaps AA

Glad to see most are smart posters. AA followed a gameplan set in place by his trainers against an equally ranked heavyweight fighter. He kept his distance to see the shot coming and sprawled powerfully when it did. He made a top ten heavyweight fighter look like an amateur. He was patient, and knew he needed that win. The only pleasure I took from seeing Crop Cop get killed was Joe Rogan having to eat all his comments about CC during the Arlovski fight, making AA seem way inferior to CC. AA left with a win, CC barely left alive.

Agree 100%, as much as I don’t like to watch a boring fight AA did what he had to against a better grappler. One loss and its back at the bottom of the pile. Rogan pissed me off too with his comments. AA vs CC would be a great fight. Neither would be worried of the others ground game(or lack there of)so it would be a stand up war.

[quote comment="46756"]Glad to see most are smart posters. AA followed a gameplan set in place by his trainers against an equally ranked heavyweight fighter. He kept his distance to see the shot coming and sprawled powerfully when it did. He made a top ten heavyweight fighter look like an amateur. He was patient, and knew he needed that win. The only pleasure I took from seeing Crop Cop get killed was Joe Rogan having to eat all his comments about CC during the Arlovski fight, making AA seem way inferior to CC. AA left with a win, CC barely left alive.

Agree 100%, as much as I don’t like to watch a boring fight AA did what he had to against a better grappler. One loss and its back at the bottom of the pile. Rogan pissed me off too with his comments. AA vs CC would be a great fight. Neither would be worried of the others ground game(or lack there of)so it would be a stand up war.[/quote]
rogan says a lot of stupid things at these events , thats no secret. white seems to like what he’s doing, so i guess he stays.