good point mania…but if strictly boxing fans buy this ppv to watch their golden boy get his ass handed to him by a guys who 5-4 and built like a brick shit house, they will see that mma is legit and might become fans more so than boxing, which equals more money in the future…..and i think he will is luring floyd in with big bucks, if he takes the bait, its worth it to dana to show that ufc fighters are 100% true athletes…….also there is no way of Floyd taking a fight for less than 5 mil…..so either he looks like a chump, or fights, and looks like a bigger chump

I think it is because Dana wants the “best pound for pound boxer” to admit that he has greater challenges in MMA left than in boxing.

It’s all symbolic. Money can’t pay for that kind of message.

But on another note, I think the fact that Mayweather talks like Frank Shamrock also pisses off Dana White.

Look at it this way, If MMA continues its meteoric rise and Boxing continues its downwrd spiral, you will eventually see larger paydays for MMA fighters and boxers forced to accept smaller purses per fight. Problem with boxing is the insane skill disparity between boxers and the lack of good fights that can garner much attention. This DLH v Mayweather fight is like the first exciting fight I’ve consider paying to see in like 18 months.

In the end, both these guys fail to see the simplicity that they are 2 completely different sports. In a Boxing Ring under Boxing rules, NOBODY in MMA can beat Mayweather. In a Ring or Octagon under MMA rules, Mayweather will be taken down, Submitted or Choked out.

This type of nonsense is just a waste of breath for any idiot shooting his mouth. Dana White should have kept his mouth shut and taken the high road. Win or Lose against DLH, Floyd is already rich and he certainly won’t be fighting in the UFC for money. The Purse is just an excuse because under MMA rules One Dimensional Boxers will get owned.

This guy is boxings Tito. Loud mouth punk if you ask me. Im rooting for Dela Hoya to knock this fool out. And please come over to the ufc for a fight Mayweather and find out your a punk. What a bitch

floyd mayweather is a loud mouth punk, and i hope de la hoya knocks him out and shuts him up…

There are about 8 or 10 LWs in UFC right now who would tie that idiot in knots. I would love to see Sherk, Joe Daddy, KenFlo, Penn, Pulver or anyone else choke Mayweather out. He can’t run his mouth when he can’t breathe.

I’d say there’s no way to be sure that Mayweather could beat anyone from MMA with boxing rules, And at the same time Mayweather could possibly beat people in the UFC, there are no definate’s. After all these guy’s are world class athletes and surely they could train for a new challenge, so people stating otherwise might have not thought it through completely. Anyone has a punchers chance, So it’s possible for say Huerta or Garcia to outbox Mayweather, and who knows maybe Mayweather would knock out Sherk in the 1st round, anythings possible! People just think they know everything.

What I can’t understand is how MMA has apparently caught up with boxing as far as PPV dollars and ticket sales, but the fighters are still payed, at best, one twentieth what this guy makes per fight. Can anyone help me out here?

Floyd could take any one of ufc LW in a boxing match easy.But when you fight UFC you need to bring alot more to the table than fast hands.I think Sherk would eat him in the first round.

[quote comment="37031"]What I can’t understand is how MMA has apparently caught up with boxing as far as PPV dollars and ticket sales, but the fighters are still payed, at best, one twentieth what this guy makes per fight. Can anyone help me out here?[/quote]

maybe it has to do with the fact that in any given event you have maybe 8 fights on a ufc card. So you have 16 guys getting paid, where as in boxing you have just 2 main guys fighting with maybe one undercard fight. So if the ppv sales are the same, you have less guys to payout per event in boxing. maybe thats the answer your looking for

Also boxing matches last alot longer than UFC fights on average, 12 rounds you know

Mayweather needs to use clear deoderant

It’s stupid to argue the way they are, Boxing and MMA are different sports, and holy shit $20 mil for a fight, that’s what’s up

Boxing ppv events have more than one undercard fight.Usally 4 or 5.

I’m getting tired of the Dana White quote machine. I wish he would just keep his yapper shut for a while so he can focus on making the UFC and Pride the standards of the industry. Let the fighters be the personalities, executives run the company.

[quote comment="37065"]I’m getting tired of the Dana White quote machine. I wish he would just keep his yapper shut for a while so he can focus on making the UFC and Pride the standards of the industry. Let the fighters be the personalities, executives run the company.[/quote]

UFC and PRIDE will take over the world under Zuffa. Don’t so much worry about that. You have to understand this is a business proposition to grow MMA. I think Dana needs to yap his mouth as much as he wants. Going after one of the best boxers in the world, right before one of the biggest fights he will ever be in against De La Hoya. Oscar wouldn’t go and say stupid shit like Floyd but he’s already involved. Helping train Diego and all that. You have to see the diamond in the rough. Floyd is so caught up in himself that he can’t see shit anymore. Mayweather is just a big mouth on dimensional boxer that needs to respect some people in this world, before the world forgets him like it has many other boxers. We have seen the best in boxing and those days are gone. This is the era of MMA. I’m not saying Dana needs to be Vince Mcmahon but he needs to be out there pressing buttons and developing exposure for what is the best product since the glory days of boxing. I know a lot of people in here don’t like Dana, but I think he knows what he’s doing.

Of course it’ll never happen. Sherk got paid $22,000 for his last fight and still has one more fight on his current contract. $22,000 for a title fight against Florian. Mayweather is making $20,000,000. Those three extra zeros are huge. Dana should STFU before his fighters notice how underpaid they are.

I understand that Dana needs to pay the fighters more money. The product of MMA is already turning that corner. These guys will get paid. Some of the big names are already making bank. Trust me! I don’t think Liddell’s kids are lagging anything in life these days. The fighters will get paid. 5 Million-20 Mill well worth the exposure. Think of the exposure Mayweather (boxer) Vs. Sean Sherk (MMA fighter). Boxing Vs. MMA, in our cage. Dana gots the money to throw up. Fuck it let him do it. It’s chump change for the amount of exposure. Think of it as mastermind marketing. I hope Mayweather takes the bait

I wonder if mma fighters will ever get that kind of a payday.I think Liddell is the highest paid UFC fighter at about 275,000.

Evander Holyfield was paid 30 million for his rematch with Mike Tyson.Crazy!

[quote comment="37109"]Evander Holyfield was paid 30 million for his rematch with Mike Tyson.Crazy![/quote]

Overpaid bastard. I don’t think anybody should be paid that much for one night

HELL NO

thats whats wrong with boxing…Mayweather getting payed 20 million for a fight…they cant find anyone around in boxing with a name, so they have to bring Delahoya back, lamb for the slaughter….why is that worth 20 million dollars…no wonder Mayweather thinks his shit dont stink

[quote comment="37111"][quote comment="37109"]Evander Holyfield was paid 30 million for his rematch with Mike Tyson.Crazy![/quote]

Overpaid bastard. I don’t think anybody should be paid that much for one night[/quote]
i’d give my right ear for that much money

I’m not sure why anyone would complain that fighters get that much money. They’re the ones people pay to see. The money ends up going to the promoters otherwise. I’d rather see a boxer get $20M than Don King or Dana White or some other promoter who talks to much, end up pocketing $20M and giving the fighter $1M.

That is one of the problems with boxing, a major problem. Big name won’t fight the dangerous up and coming fighter until the up and comer is a big name too. Nevermind it would be a great fight. If the money isn’t there, in boxing, the fight will never happen. And thats a big reason why boxing sucks right now.

I like Dana White,he is one of the people responsible for getting MMA where it is today,and that gives me somthing to look forward to and enjoy.He seems like a down to earth sort of guy who is also a very clever buisness man.I like the fact that the MMA fighters dont get overpayed because like they say in boxing “its hard to get up at six in the morning and go running in silk underpants”.It also keeps the fighters more real if their not getting payed 50 mil a fight like some heavywieghts have in the past.

[quote comment="37090"]I understand that Dana needs to pay the fighters more money. The product of MMA is already turning that corner. These guys will get paid. Some of the big names are already making bank. Trust me! I don’t think Liddell’s kids are lagging anything in life these days. The fighters will get paid. 5 Million-20 Mill well worth the exposure. Think of the exposure Mayweather (boxer) Vs. Sean Sherk (MMA fighter). Boxing Vs. MMA, in our cage. Dana gots the money to throw up. Fuck it let him do it. It’s chump change for the amount of exposure. Think of it as mastermind marketing. I hope Mayweather takes the bait[/quote]

Totally agree man, couldn’t be said better.

I never could justify the current salaries in sport. 5 million is enough for anyone 30 and over to live their entire lifetime, provided they spend it smart and not piss it away on Drugs, broads and booze.
Half of the boxers today have an entourage the size of a small country on payroll to do NOTHING. Thats just a good way to piss away money. With the Buy rates for Boxing PPV and such I just don’t understand how the promoters can justify that kind of money. In the end, even the most humblest of guys turn into money grubbing whores (case in point: Lennox Lewis, who will consider fighting again if the price is ‘right’ WTF.)
This is where I like the UFC’s management over others. You are paid well if you draw a crowd, but not at levels where yu’ll turn into an asshole and have it cloud your better judgment.
A guy like Chucky will probably see around 5 million in his career from the fights alone (not endorsements) but you can see even with he hasn’t turned into an asshole and is continuing to fight because he likes it.
“Professional” sports today provide “professional” entertainment. But they have failed to provide “Professional” money management because they escalate payrolls to ridiculous levels where the common joe doesn’t justify their salaries.

[quote post="1858"]it’s possible for say Huerta or Garcia to outbox Mayweather, and who knows maybe Mayweather would knock out Sherk in the 1st round, anythings possible! People just think they know everything.[/quote]

You obviosly have never seen Mayweather box and know very little about boxing or MMA. Mayweather is one of the best pound for pound boxers ever, Huerta or Garcia would not stand a chance in boxing rules. That being said Mayweather’s would not stand a chance to any of the top lightweights under MMA rules. And you may say that we should just accept it at that and say they are completely different sports but this is not entirely true. Boxing is an improtant element in MMA so pitting the best in that one area of MMA against a complete fighter would make for an exciting fight and there are still many people that beleive someone can succeed in MMA by being a pure boxer and not a complete MMA fighter so this would be a chance to shut all those people up and prove that MMA has superior fighters than boxing.

Is it just me or does Dela Hoya look like he wants to get a room with Mayweather?

I think Dana is on to something. If Mayweather agreed to fight Sherk in the Octogon under MMA rules, you’d get the boxing crowd and the MMA crowd tuning in for the same PPV, which is a big payday in itself. Think of the pre-fight coverage and debates you’d get in every sports page and sports cable show. Is boxing dying? Is MMA a real sport? Is Mayweather crazy? Is the muscle-bound midget crazy? Who are these heathen MMA fans? Are they bloodthirsty psychopaths or normal people? Dana and Shawn Sherk will field those questions everywhere from the Today Show to Live with Larry King.

If Sherk GNPs Mayweather into pulp, then chances are you’ve converted (or at least piqued the interest of) both boxing fans and those tuning in just out of curiosity but didn’t follow either sport very much. And if Dana pays Mayweather a million to be a punching bag and peanuts to Sherk for a win, believe me, Sherk and all the other fighters win in the long run. Big publicity = more fans = more money = more takehome pay for UFC fighters. Assuming Sherk can pull off a win. No pressure or anything. Mayweather’s a great boxer, but even Ramon Dekker lost in his only attempt at MMA – and as a kickboxer, he’s already better adapted to MMA than Mayweather.

Hey timothy Willett completely agree with you. i would like to see if mayweather could knock someone out before they take him down. Maybe Floyd could fight Melvin. Melvin might try to sniff the white sh*t out of armpits though j/k . Seriously though floyd would have the royce mentality of my style of fighting is all I need

Mayweather would never fight in MMA, if anything he’s insulting the boxing skills of MMA fighters, trying to lure Liddel into a ring, thats like asking a hockey player to play lacross

If he does take Dana up on the challenge… I’d like to see all boxing skills from Floyd and let Sherk do his thing. If he’s going to bash MMA then he should’nt be aloud to use any of it in the ring! I hope big mouth takes the bait. I’d pay a $100 to see that fight.

I just want to make sure Don King stays away from the UFC! I hate that S.O.B.

NO DON KING. Agree with you Justin.

I dont know why Boxing keeps running their mouths because their never going to actully fight a mma fighter.

At least James toney said he’ll fight anybody i’d pay to watch him fight mma

Look guys the payouts are crazy in any sport.

Look at hockey, football, basketball, baseball and pro wrestling.

I would say anyone who makes more than 5 million a year is over paid. The organizations should be putting the $$$ into the kids, coaches and facilities.

Or lower ppv’s and seats…

It would take the average person 50yrs to make a million $$$. I am not saying lates rape the fighters.

I am thinking every fighter should get 20k just for entering a ring in the ufc. Hell they already proved thier worth putting in the cage.

Boxers need that much just to pay for people to look after em when they have brain damage due to blunt smacks to the head for x rounds.

If I were dana I wouldnt acknowledge him, it just gives him some attention that others might think he deserves.

The only way Mayweather would fight someone from the UFC would be on his terms,which means boxing and it’s rules.He mouthy but not stupid.I’m a boxing fan as well and i really hope the UFC does’t end up with all trials and tribulations boxing has.

[quote post="1858"]The only way Mayweather would fight someone from the UFC would be on his terms,which means boxing and it’s rules[/quote]

I think some of you are missing the point of this whole thing. No UFC fighter ever came out and said that Mayweather sucks at boxing and they could beat him in boxing. Mayweather came out and said UFC fighters suck and he could whoop them at their own game so having a UFC fighter fight a boxing match with Mayweather would prove nothing. Dana White is calling him out to back up his words and take on a UFC fighter if he thinks he could beat them in MMA. I doubt this will ever happen because I’m sure even with as much shit as Mayweather talks he knows he would get his ass whooped in the UFC but if he has such a big head that he doesnt realize you can’t compete in MMA being just a boxer it would be awesome to see him get GNP by Sherk or submitted by Penn(who would be the lightweight champ when and if this fight would ever take place).

i really hope de la hoya whoops his ass

Dam id love to see sherk get his hands on this dood n choke him out – then snap him up

By the way, has anybody heard what Sherk thinks about all this?

People keeps saying its like apples an oranges…remember the FIRST UFCs had tried to include ALL martial disciplines..INCLUDING boxing, and that went horrifically wrong.

So, people need to get that apples and oranges thing out of thier heads…strict any discipline wont last long in the UFC at all.

i beleive mma is better than boxing by far becuase its a bigger varety of things to witch and i beleave that mayeweather could not beat eny good mma fighter in his vdivision but i do beleive that there is some mma fighter that if there was his weight would knock mayeweather out

The first UFC’s did have all those strict dicipines..Boxing vs judo vs..whatever else…But none of the boxers were prize fighters..

Mayweather would beat any of these people Dana White would throw at him…But he’ll make more money fighting some no name boxer than ALL MMA fighters combined over the next 5 years…So what would be the point?

And if White has the money to pay Mayweather…Why are the MMA fighters not getting bigger pieces?

[quote comment="38633"]People keeps saying its like apples an oranges…remember the FIRST UFCs had tried to include ALL martial disciplines..INCLUDING boxing, and that went horrifically wrong.

So, people need to get that apples and oranges thing out of thier heads…strict any discipline wont last long in the UFC at all.[/quote]

That boxer, who fought Gracy in that fight, was an idiot. He certainly wasn’t an elite fighter. I’ve never even heard of that guy until I watched that tape. And I kept track of all the top boxers back then! And he was a number 1 contender??? I say bullshit. Dana’s a liar.

I’ve seen amature fighters that would have done a better job! I would have done a better job of fighting Gracy, than that idiot, and I was only a 132 pound amature boxer. I was a good boxer and was on the US team for a while but I would never concider myself elite.

I have yet seen MMA fighters have to speed, quickness, and deadly like strikes of even the top boxers in amature…not alone the elite boxers in Pro. I have also yet seen an MMA fighter beat any elite boxer. Yeah, Dana might have boxed before but has he ever become an elite boxer? Has he ever become an elite boxer in amature boxing?? I’ve seen him box on TV and my guess is no.

I’m not saying that boxing is more a deadly art than any other. Yeah, some boxer would be taken out by MMA fighters. However, there are some elite boxers, out there, that would mop the floor with the top MMA fighter. Just because of the speed, power, and accuracy of these boxers.

Also, you MMA fighters and fight fans are confusing MMA fights to real fights…when it’s not even close. MMA fights still have rules. I remember when a wrestler, from Minnasota, tried taking me down because of an argument. I was sitting in my chair and didn’t even have a chance to get to my feet! The first thing I did was jam both of my finger in his eye sockets! And I bith a chunk of of his arms too. Next thing I know, he was sreaming for his friends to help him out….That’s when I got my ass kicked….by all of his fucken friends….I hope they die!

By anyway…Rampage was saying that boxing wasn’t fighting and MMA was….he’s wrong….neither are. The real fighters are in the Gulf right now.

Also, I’m watch Ultamite Fighter, on TV, and I think every one of those guys are a big joke! First of all, those idiots can’t even maintain their weight! It’s easy! I can’t believe that no one in MMA fighting can’t lose 2 to 3 pounds in two hours if they weigh in heavy in the morning!

I have come in over weight a few times but most of the time I did not. I know a few who would come in overweight all the time, but they lost the weight in two hours everytime! It’s called plastic bags, heated car, and a spit bucket! Plus, a lot of running.

Also, drinking alcohol and staying up late in a training camp?? You’re kidding, right???? No wonder why these idiots have trouble making weight! You do that in a boxing camp, you’re most likely kicked off the team because that only tells the boxing coaches one thing…you are not serious and the coaches are wasting their time with you.

Hell, most boxers won’t even have sex withing two weeks of a fight or tournament. You might laugh at that, but that’s how serious they are…. I don’t see most MMA fighter, that I have seen, taking their fights serious. If you do that, that could be dangerous for you.

Oh, my guess with Floyd and that MMA fighter….I think ether one of them could win the fight on a good day….

Come on Tyson would upper-cut any of those dudes up into the rafters. In boxing any of the great boxers murder any mma fighter 8 out of 10 times give mma benefit of doubt any athlete could get a lucky punch in. I will give you if they fight mma rules only couple boxers in history win 80% of time the other top boxers like PRETTY BOY, ROY JONES JR have 50 50 shot because of there hand speed alone.

Anyone who is a real boxing fan will tell you that mayweather is a peice of shit. he runs away in the ring and waits until his opponent is tierd so he can come in with fast, but weak flurries. I hope he fights mma. I along with every boxing fan that I know would love to see this overrated chump get his ass handed to him.

I think the fight would be more competive than most mma fans think. Floyd mayweather could train for awhile working to sprawl and getting back up. Most people know that the ufc is oriented to help wrestlers out. No kicking a downed oppenent no kneeing after you block his take down. While conversly the wrestler can hold you on the ground and elbow the hell out of you. You also can not kick at his head from your back. I have all the respect for wrestlers myself being one. Those just do not make for good fights holding one guy down against the cage. I think floyd should call Dana’s bluff he would never co-promote to save his mother and makeing it worth floyds worth while what about your own mma fighters mr. white just keep paying them the peanuts you have been they should print how much money dana white takes in compared to the fighters doing all the work. Well like I stated earlier the fight would be more competitive than most people think. Look at what maurice smith did to mark coleman when he destroyed the notion of wrestlers dominating strikers.