I think Hughes was upset that a guy who beat him badly just got tooled by Serra.

i dont really think it was a big deal hughes was laughing….but i gotta say i love Gsp hes a class act,but now he seems pissed…bad situation for the welterweights…especially Hughes

what a jerk off!

God hughes looks like a dick in that video, I cant wait for him to fight gsp again

Look at these to idiots..Matt Hughes, I coulda sworn GSP just anialated him just a few months ago. And look at Sherk, who is he trying to suck up to?.Hughes kicked his ass..Oh and GSP made him scream like a girl and drop down to 155. No respect by these guys, Hughes is a great fighter, but I think Koscheck and Diego can beat him, and we know what GSP will do to him. I cant even picture GSP fighting someone he doesnt respect, its gonna be ugly again!!

I say put together Hughes vs Pierre before any title match and watch GSP knock him out. Then we can have a GSP vs Serra re-match. Please GSP put this fag into retirement.

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That didn’t work at all, lets try that again

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Heh no surprise really. As shocked an disappointed I was at GSPs loss I was pretty angered at Hughes and Sherks actions at the end of the fight. I didn’t expect them to shed a tear but it was pretty obvious they were happy to see GSP KO’d.

Ah well, it will make for an interesting matchup if GSP can get a chance to fight Hughes again.

As for Sherk, he lost a lot of respect from me. He’s a great fighter but cut from the same pattern as Hughes I guess. I’ll be rooting for Franca no question when the two meet up this summer.

Hughes is a penis. I hope Serra breaks his arm so GSP can laugh at him. Then I hope GSP head kicks him into oblivion.

What is there for Hughes to love? Who has he ever knocked out with all his failed attempts at stand up? Them boys can fight at Team Miletich, but Pat should teach them some honor and class, or at least teach them how to better hide their thoughts from everyone. Everything he does makes him look like a high school jock bully. I think the Royce Gracie fight was the worst win to ever happen to Hughes.

I used to be able to defend the sport by telling people about the amazing respect the fighters held for each other. We didn’t used to be subjected to this sort of nonsense.

Just out of curiosity, did anyone ask Hughes what he and Sherk were smiling about? Did I miss something? Because as much of an ass as I think he is, I want to give him the benefit of the doubt and say maybe it was a natural response to an exciting fight. A major upset like that would make anyone smile…unless of course they had money bet on GSP.

matts a jerk i can’t stand him i used to think he had respect but it was just an act i never want him to win another fight i just want to see him pounded into oblivian!!!!!!!

I would love to see a broken arm on either hughes or sherk. I’m sure Serra and Hermes are capable of doing it.I wonder how GSP will fight if he is actually “Angry”, or will he remain emotionless like he usually is.

Not was it the worst win for hughes tommy but its also were he started losing fans. After that smile when GSP lost serra he lost even more. I wouldnt want to be him wether he fights serra or GSP both hate the guy. Lets hope sherk loses his title at the next fight then we dont have to hear about the Miletich camp anymore.

after hughes beats serra, the third fight between these two is gonna be one of the most anticipated ever…hughes had no reason to be as disrespectful as he was, especially after gsp was so respectful to him before and after both of their fights, i can understand hughes as a fan of the sport enjoying the shocking outcome, but to laugh and cheer like a disrespectful ass shows how much class he has, gsp and hughes are perfect examples of class and classless, but all that shit don’t win or lose a fight and i think once hughes gets his belt back from serra he’s gonna be very very hard to beat at least for another year or two, i think people have lost respect for him as a fighter because they don’t like his personality, but the fact is, he tried to stand with gsp and that isn’t his style, if he utilizes his takedowns and strength gsp won’t win their 3rd fight and hughes will dominate the division again for as long as he wants to…

i want to see chris lytle fight either koscheck gsp or fitch, i think lytle is more under rated than any other ww in the ufc, i think his stand up is good enough to challenge gsp i really do, and i think he was robbed in the serra tuf 4 final, i know he just lost to hughes but as i said above hughes is still the best in this division and thats nothing to be ashamed of…

Wait, wait, wait people. I think we’re all being a little hard on Hughes. If you were a Serra fan Saturday night, you were probably laughing and screaming w/ excitement (unlike me who was scream expletives at the TV screen). Hughes was happy b/c he will probably have an easier road to get the title back through Serra. I understand it makes him seem like a jerk, but put yourself in his shoes.

Come on look at his last fight…you can tell hughes aint the same as what he was a year ago…and if you tell me that his last fight was a impressive win you been smokin some crazy shit! I dont think hes gonna get past serra. Serra’s stand up is better and if hughes takes him to the ground i believe serra will submit him. Then we can all dream and hope that hughes just retires and then we dont have to have stupid arguments about him anymore!

I think since Koscheck beat Sanchez he should get a title shot. Dana white promised diego that if he won and serra won, he would get a shot at the title, so I dont understand why it is different with another outcome.

I think since diego and gsp lost they should fight eachother. Give everyone the fight they wanted to see sooner.

I think Hughes doesnt deserve a title shot yet, it pisses me off that everyone else has to work their way to a title and he doesnt, his last performance sucked balls, I believe he should fight john Fitch since he is looking to come up in the welterweight division. It would give him the best opertunity to prove himself.

After Fitch vs Hughes, and Diego Vs GSP, or you can mix those fights up a bit, the winners of each fight, fight eachother and than that winner gets a shot at the winner of Serra vs Koscheck.

The fact that matt hughes just had to fight chris lytle, gives the most borring performance of the night, and can sit in the audience smiling knowing that he gets a title shot against matt serra really pisses me off.

I guess I’m in the minority in that I don’t see much of a problem with Hughes’ and Sherk’s reaction. It looked a lot like mine at home. Not that I dislike GSP or especially like Hughes, it’s just that it was an exciting fight, and a hell of an upset. I can’t say that they were unhappy to see GSP get KO’d, but if the two of them sat there stone-faced while the rest of us spectators are jumping out our seats, that would just be bizarre. And if they were actually happy because Serra made GSP look human, can you really blame these guys? There’s plenty of reasons to think that Hughes is a dick, but I just don’t think that this is one of them.

Hughes – “who’s got two thumbs and likes it up the ass..this guy”

Sherk – “see u in your hotel room”

that’s from a professional lip reader…

GNP101 you have said the realist shit on this post. hughes is such a asshole. i hope serra breaks it face…literally. gsp is the most respectful guy i ever seen, not just on tv but i dont even know anyone like that in everyday life.

[quote comment="32325"]I guess I’m in the minority in that I don’t see much of a problem with Hughes’ and Sherk’s reaction. It looked a lot like mine at home. Not that I dislike GSP or especially like Hughes, it’s just that it was an exciting fight, and a hell of an upset. I can’t say that they were unhappy to see GSP get KO’d, but if the two of them sat there stone-faced while the rest of us spectators are jumping out our seats, that would just be bizarre. And if they were actually happy because Serra made GSP look human, can you really blame these guys? There’s plenty of reasons to think that Hughes is a dick, but I just don’t think that this is one of them.[/quote]

My thoughts exactly. A fight like that gets a reaction out of every fan and fighter in the sport. Have you ever seen something so shocking that you actually laughed b/c your so blown away? I know I have, and I’m willing to bet that Hughes thought GSP was going to destroy Serra just like we did.

Maybe Hughes should have been nice and respectful like GSP and walked into the octagon, got on the mic and said “I wasn’t impressed by your performance, Georges”.

?

Seriously, he did nothing wrong here and it certainly wasn’t as bad as what GSP did after the Hughes/Penn fight.

If you think Hughes was happy, surprised, excite, whatever, you should have seen the people jumping around screaming at my house. That was a shocking moment for everyone.

I would venture to say that GSP has a hard time fighting people he likes…

First fight vs Hughs he admitted he respected and he was his idol…

Second fight was very much a flip the other way, “I am not Impressed”

THis fight vs Serra was somewhat startling cause I think GSP expected it to go on the ground and be settled with a friendly armlock or choke. Not a barrage of swings…

I would say you will see GSP Fight Diego, Hughs fight Serra and Koscheck get put off for alittle bit maybe even fight Parisyan (Both kinda drag fights out Karo/cant finish well and Koscheck doesnt know how)(Depending on Karos fight…) Maybe Kos will fight Fitch)

The more i watch the clip the more i agree that it was more a shocked reaction like most people had but i still want to see him get his arm broke so i don’t have to listen to the jesus sermon after the fight.I’m not against religion or anything but i have noticed a marked increase in jesus freaks in the UFC

Horrible attitude from Matt Hughes and Sean Sherk.. Now about the upcoming fights, I’d definitely like to see Koscheck vs Serra, then Diego vs GSP and Hughes vs Fitch then put the two winners of these fights to go for a title shot ;}

Hmmm…I disagree that Hughes is the best in the WW division. The “new” Serra will match up very well with hughes, should they meet (maybe too well for Hughes’ comfort). MH did seem a little too happy about GSP’s loss, but Sherk’s was more disgusting to me. At any rate, MH would most likely not do well against either Serra or GSP. Lytle (who I also agree is underrated) gave him about all he wanted in that fight. Too bad we have to wait for Serra-Koscheck before another legit WW title fight.

That didn’t come out right. I meant too bad we have to wait until AFTER Serra-Koscheck for another legit WW title fight.

look at forrest griffin behind hughes. THAT’s the look of shock.

Hughes is just genuinely happy about GSP’s loss.

I was as shocked as anyone, as was everyone else at my place that night. Yet we didn’t slobber all over ourselves and say we love it over and over again.

clearly, any idiot could see that he’s not in shock from the fight… but hes happy that gsp lost. as soon as sherk approaches, you can tell that they are both happy that the man that man hughes look like a bitch lost. im not saying i felt it was disrespectful by hughes… i mean i didn’t expect him to run up to gsp and say that hes sorry he lost… but clearly, like NOEL said, hughes knows the odds of him beating serra are better than the odds of him beating gsp, although serra proved odds mean nothing.

@ THE SPIDA-

u say hughes lost the last fight cuz he chose to stand with GSP… the question i have for you is “did hughes choose to stand, or did GSP have extreme takedown defense and make hughes stand? watch the fight again, and then answer!”

@MIKI-

very well said… forrest looks genuinely shocked. and then he looks at hughes like WTF are you so happy for… while the entire time matt looks like he’s about to ejaculate in his pants cuz he feels he has an easier roead to the title.

I think Hughes was probably glad to see that he would be fighting Serra, as Serra has stated his distaste for Matt. @Robin, I think the same goes for Matt, he does best in fights with people he doesn’t like. His two fights with Trigg are great examples.

[quote comment="32285"]Look at these to idiots..Matt Hughes, I coulda sworn GSP just anialated him just a few months ago. And look at Sherk, who is he trying to suck up to?.Hughes kicked his ass..Oh and GSP made him scream like a girl and drop down to 155. No respect by these guys, Hughes is a great fighter, but I think Koscheck and Diego can beat him, and we know what GSP will do to him. I cant even picture GSP fighting someone he doesnt respect, its gonna be ugly again!![/quote]

Koscheck and Diego are obsessed with showing off terrible dirty boxing skills. I can’t see how you think either of these guys are better in any way. That fight was the most borring UFC fight of all time. Did someone forget to tell them it was a fight and not a sparring match?

Did I watch a different Hughes/Lytle fight. Lytle gave Hughes all he wanted? Lytle didnt do shit in that fight go back and watch. Lytle should be pissed more because I think he should of been the one facing GSP he totally beat Serra in TUF finale.

GSP has a great attitude, when it comes to fella’s like Hughes..GSP know’s he can smash Hughes…what the heck is Hughes thinking, mocking GSP…Yeah GSP got beat..He’s a man about it..Hughes takes a shot at GSP…GSP Knocks him out..So be it…GSP is the man again…I wonder if GSP will get another shot at Serra…Considering Serra will lose his next bout and GSP will already have a title shot..and whom ever is holding the Golden title, will be stripped of it as soon as GSP is in there again….And really i don’t think Serra will have the title when GSP gets his shot again…So like i said, i wonder if GSP will get a shot at Serra again???just have an open mind when responding..thx

Oh Matt! I used to like you until your head got so DAMN BIG (MEANING YOUR EGO…even though your head is pretty big)…then your whole teams ego blew threw the roof and when you and Rich came on the Ultimate Fighter show u guys were not helpful one bit and just a bunch of cocky pricks. AND LOOK WHAT HAPPENS TO COCKY PRICKS!! One basically gets knocked out by an “OLD MAN” and u and rich both get destroyed. ANYWAYS…George ST. Pierre idolized u and on UFC MANIA they have a video of u laughing and being so happy that St. Pierre lost to Serra. Your just a poor sport. ONLY ReASON U WERE LAUGHING AND HAPPY IS CAUSE YOUR THANKING GOD YOU DONT HAVE TO FIGHT GSP AGAIN BECAUSE U WOULD BE DONE!!!! that would be 2 losses to gsp for the belt and u would be on your way to being a nobody again. You will probably kill Matt Serra whos no challenge, and to me that is a bitch of a fighter. If you want to beat the best u should have been upset that matt serra won, cause u could have tried to avenge your loss and fight the best again…but instead your probably lookin at an easy win. I hope when u and GSP fight again and he dents in your face with kicks and elbows like the second fight that GSP points and laughs right in your face!!

Maybe I took Hughes’ strategy of smothering Lytle on the ground as evidence that he did not want anything to do with Lytle’s stand up. Good thinking, I suppose. Regardless, Hughes looked less than impressive and I doubt he would fare as well against Serra and I know he wouldn’t against GSP. Hell, Sanchez might even give him a run for his money if Sanchez decided to actually fight. I guess I’m not as bullish as some on the return of the reign of Matt Hughes.

Matt Hughes is great, and I don’t think he was being disrespectful to GSP. Anyway, Matt Hughes is the greatest welterweight of all time, and I can’t wait until his beats up that cheeseball Serra.
Matt Hughes deserves a lot more repect then he gets on this site, and I have no doubt that he will beat Serra, beat GSP, move up to middleweight and beat Silva, and then perhaps retire.

There is a lot of hate for Hughes. For being a dick. Serra says the same things and it ok. I dont get it. I would say Hughes has more room to talk shit because he has walked the walk 41 out of 46 times. So Serra shut up.

[quote comment="32326"]Hughes – “who’s got two thumbs and likes it up the ass..this guy”

Sherk – “see u in your hotel room”

that’s from a professional lip reader…[/quote]
LOL pretty funny miki, I really don’t believe hughes when he said he likes georges, gsp made him and sherk look bad so I gues s it must have felt like sweet revenge. I myself was traumatized and was very upset as I really like gsp and I think I almost felt as bad as gsp did. Gsp is probably the best sport I’ve ever seen in my life, I have so much respect for the guy. I used to be a hughes fan and was upset when gsp beat him but the tables are turned now, Hughes makes it very hard for people to root for him.

Steve, puff, puff pass man.

Not smart getting gsp pissed, could be the first death in the octagon.

[quote comment="32347"]clearly, any idiot could see that he’s not in shock from the fight… but hes happy that gsp lost. as soon as sherk approaches, you can tell that they are both happy that the man that man hughes look like a bitch lost. im not saying i felt it was disrespectful by hughes… i mean i didn’t expect him to run up to gsp and say that hes sorry he lost… but clearly, like NOEL said, hughes knows the odds of him beating serra are better than the odds of him beating gsp, although serra proved odds mean nothing.

Clearly no one expected Serra to beat GSP. So you don’t think Matt was shocked at the outcome? So you think that Matt H. expected Serra to knock out GSP?

Maybe GSPs like for the people he fights cost him the fight. You have to be a pitbull to be a champ and maybe not that pitbull I and many thought he was. Its probably easier to win the championship than to defend. That is why I have so much respect for Hughes. He’s been the hunted for many years and defended his championship many times and won many times.

I think the UFC is almost in the position to supply an immediate rematch for this fight. If not there’s a chance that GSP may never fight Matt Serra again, when truefully there’s alot of specualtion that the win was fluky. I don’t personally think that, but I believe that GSP should fight Serra again. As for Matt Hughes, he claims that it was just a reaction from the outcome on his website, but Matt reads alot of what people write about him, I wouldn’t be surpised that what he wrote on his site is pure bullshit to save face and keep the Jesus vote.

Serioulsy, no class at all, hope he gets knocked out so bad that the only thing that he’s gonna do in his next fight is dryhump his opponent like the one with Lights out.

BTW, Sean Sherk looks like Matt Hughes gay cousin and they’re the familly in the crowd at an episode of “Deal, No Deal” just after uncle Timmy open his $50,000 dollar briefcase…nice shirt Sean, but i think Matt likes your bare chest……

[quote comment="32361"]Matt Hughes is great, and I don’t think he was being disrespectful to GSP. Anyway, Matt Hughes is the greatest welterweight of all time, and I can’t wait until his beats up that cheeseball Serra.
Matt Hughes deserves a lot more repect then he gets on this site, and I have no doubt that he will beat Serra, beat GSP, move up to middleweight and beat Silva, and then perhaps retire.[/quote]

are you serious?? I agree with SoCal – puff, puff, give – puff, puff, give

WOW!

After he beat Gracie, Hughes was the man. Now, he’s reviled by fans. What the hell happened in less than one year??????

What a f****g asshole hughes is…the whole Militech camp seem the same. All this christian jesus loving bollocks he sprouts on about all the time. What a load of sh*t. How can someone who claims to be so religious be such a disrespectful tosser?
The guy is a complete fake if you ask me. Get him back in the ring with GSP soon as and watch GSP hand Matt his ass and send him in to retirement.

I don’t think anyone can dispute Matt Hughes is a great fighter, but from what i’ve seen a terriibly poor sport. Image is everything Sirmixalot Hughes has become an Asshole.

[quote comment="32361"]Matt Hughes is great, and I don’t think he was being disrespectful to GSP. Anyway, Matt Hughes is the greatest welterweight of all time, and I can’t wait until his beats up that cheeseball Serra.
Matt Hughes deserves a lot more repect then he gets on this site, and I have no doubt that he will beat Serra, beat GSP, move up to middleweight and beat Silva, and then perhaps retire.[/quote]

Where’s True Believer Today??? I’m surprised you aren’t quoting your own comments under your different alias to side in your own opinion. ” The Greatest Welterweight of all time” I honestly don’t care, you sound like Mike Goldburg. This is UFCMAINIA, not Matt-Hughes.com people see him for what he is here, I’ll give Matt props on what he does in the Octagon, but as a person hes an asshole. Saying “So, hopefully I will be facing Matt in the future.” displays that he has no intention on fighting true competition. He doesn’t want to challenge himself, only capitalize on oportunity. Let’s say that his does win his title back, moves up weight to 185 and challenge Silva because he knows that a grappler has a better chance on beating Silva then a Striker does, yeah he would retire, because Rich would drop his ass in a heart beat. Matt Hughes career is turning into a political compaign.

@socalmma

i was gonna say tha exact thing to steve… he must be smokin some potent shit

@WILDBILL

ill correct myself… hughes probably was shocked at the outcome of the fight, but, the expression on his face was not one of chock… but one of pure elation and excitement! forrest griffin however, looked shocked

Robin-I thought GSP apologized for telling Matt that he wasn’t impressed by his performance and said he misunderstood what Matt was saying. (Perhaps not? I’m not 100% sure.)

I jumped on the bandwagon with this one a little fast too. I think I’ll chalk it up to a natural reaction to a good fight and a major upset. Really, how many of you didn’t have a similar “I can’t believe it” look on your faces?

MATT IS AN ASSHOLE.

I HOPE SERRA BREAKS HIS ARM AND GSP RETIRES HIS SMIRK FOREVER.

Even though there Hughes was definitely laughing at Pierre’s expense, I think he should be flattered by it. It clearly shows that Hughes would much rather fight Serra than Pierre.

Can anyone make out what Hughes is actually saying? He seems to say it twice: once to the camera, once to Sherk.

WP-

“I can’t believe that just happened.”

Or something along those lines.

Of course hughes would much rather fight serra than gsp so would any welter weight, I would say hughes has about a 70 % chance of winning the belt back now and about 30 % if gsp was still king. The title means everything to this guy and serra just made his return much more possible for him. If hughes can’t get gsp down hes a goner but he knows he can take serra down and win a decision, he’s in it for the money and the title so I don’t think he cares about the challenge, or making a complete ass of himself in front of millions. The way he’s going he might lose all his fans before next year.

Theres probably a huge line up for a shot at the title now, I bet diego doesn’t have any reluctance now about a title shot.

@SK

are you blind? are maybe you just cant read lips… but i watched the fight live with volume and dvr’d it and watched it several times, and he clearly says “i love it” “i love it”

Hey here is an idea, Steve always is the first person to jump in and defend Matt Hughes… have we concidered the possiblity, instead of him being a pot head, he just might actually be Matt Hughes? Or maybe he is like one of the few close personal friend or family of Matt Hughes because honestly I think those are the only people left on the face of this planet who still like him!

Im not sure whom said it but I have to agree, the look on Forest’s face and his actions behind Hughes, that was the look of shock, I should know because that is the same thing I was doing, draw dropped and scratching of the head. Matt Hughes was the look and attitude of, “thank you lord, I do not have to get my ass kicked again by that crazy kid GSP”

I truely wonder what GSP will do to someone he doesnt like, someone who has disrespected him so many times, whether that be TUF4 or UFC 69… I bet they will have to carry Matt Hughes out on a strecher!

did anyone else notice FORREST sneak in this shot too…he looks like he looks at Hughes then laughs, like hes making fun…. 1 for Forrest again

[quote comment="32432"]@SK

are you blind? are maybe you just cant read lips… but i watched the fight live with volume and dvr’d it and watched it several times, and he clearly says “i love it” “i love it”[/quote]

You just have a knack for sounding like an assclown in almost every one of your posts even after I call you on it and you correct yourself.

I see the “I love it”, that’s clear, but I thought he said something before he turned to Sherk. Oh well. I also meant to put a question mark at the end of my comment earlier. Oops.

If you’ve got volume, then yeah, I trust what you hear since I’m just watching the little clip posted. Whatever he said was drowned out by bar crowd so I missed it when I watched the fight.

And I meant that for fightfan51, I don’t want anyone to gt confused

wildbill-

In this crowd? We’ll get confused on purpose just to get snarky. It helps keep the aggression level pumped up between fights. Or maybe it’s performance art- an MMA board’s interpretation of Sanchez and Koscheck’s relationship.

[quote comment="32361"]Matt Hughes is great, and I don’t think he was being disrespectful to GSP. Anyway, Matt Hughes is the greatest welterweight of all time, and I can’t wait until his beats up that cheeseball Serra.
Matt Hughes deserves a lot more repect then he gets on this site, and I have no doubt that he will beat Serra, beat GSP, move up to middleweight and beat Silva, and then perhaps retire.[/quote]

Ok it’s clear to see that Matt Hughes is posting on this very site under the name Steve.

[quote post="1788"]Maybe Hughes should have been nice and respectful like GSP and walked into the octagon, got on the mic and said “I wasn’t impressed by your performance, Georges”.[/quote]

SirShannon, if you’re going to tell a story, atleast tell the whole story. What you are quoting was a direct response to yet another disrespectful comment from the ever-arrogant Matt Hughes. Also, let’s not forget that GSP explained this to everyone and still went & apologized to Hughes even though GSP was justified in his verbal retaliation.

It’s ok to be a Hughes fan (of which I am not), he’s a great one-dimenstional fighter. However, his fighting ability does not excuse his poor social skills & neither should you.

[quote comment="32347"]clearly, any idiot could see that he’s not in shock from the fight… but hes happy that gsp lost. as soon as sherk approaches, you can tell that they are both happy that the man that man hughes look like a bitch lost. im not saying i felt it was disrespectful by hughes… i mean i didn’t expect him to run up to gsp and say that hes sorry he lost… but clearly, like NOEL said, hughes knows the odds of him beating serra are better than the odds of him beating gsp, although serra proved odds mean nothing.

@ THE SPIDA-

u say hughes lost the last fight cuz he chose to stand with GSP… the question i have for you is “did hughes choose to stand, or did GSP have extreme takedown defense and make hughes stand? watch the fight again, and then answer!”[/quote]

dude, i’m sure gsp’s strategy was to keep the fight on their feet, and yeah he’s got decent takedown defense as shown in the shawn sherk fight, but not really in this fight, if hughes wants to take you down there is nothing you’re gonna be able to do about it you’re going to the mat, he’s shown he can take a punch and grab his opponent and slam whoever that opponent is to the mat over and over, he tried a few times in this fight, but i honestly think at the beginning of the fight he wanted to see if he could trade with gsp or maybe he was trying to get gsp tired like he did to b.j. i don’t know, all i know is if hughes wants the fight on the mat, he’s shown he can put it there, and it was supposed to be a 5 round fight, i don’t think he planned on taking gsp down until he got a little tired first, but who knows the fight ended too early, to me it seemed like he wanted to stand in the first round and then go from there…

hughes has not had enough country breakfasts

You know, I generally don’t get nasty on these boards but I’m tired of people like that. They make snide comments directed at other posts but don’t just do it directly.

[quote post="1788"]are you blind? are maybe you just cant read lips… but i watched the fight live with volume and dvr’d it and watched it several times, and he clearly says “i love it” “i love it”[/quote]

Wildbill, believe it or not, you’re wrong about this. There are quite a few people, including myself who dvr’d that fight & we all got the same message you see quoted above. Hughes really does say, “I love it”……….no class.

Hughes could barelt blanket Lytle, he’s done.

[quote comment="32435"]Hey here is an idea, Steve always is the first person to jump in and defend Matt Hughes… have we concidered the possiblity, instead of him being a pot head, he just might actually be Matt Hughes? Or maybe he is like one of the few close personal friend or family of Matt Hughes because honestly I think those are the only people left on the face of this planet who still like him!

Im not sure whom said it but I have to agree, the look on Forest’s face and his actions behind Hughes, that was the look of shock, I should know because that is the same thing I was doing, draw dropped and scratching of the head. Matt Hughes was the look and attitude of, “thank you lord, I do not have to get my ass kicked again by that crazy kid GSP”

I truely wonder what GSP will do to someone he doesnt like, someone who has disrespected him so many times, whether that be TUF4 or UFC 69… I bet they will have to carry Matt Hughes out on a strecher![/quote]

The Ghost…Steve has too alias’ he says the same shit on every Matt Hughes dis thread.

[quote comment="32478"][quote post="1788"]are you blind? are maybe you just cant read lips… but i watched the fight live with volume and dvr’d it and watched it several times, and he clearly says “i love it” “i love it”[/quote]

Wildbill, believe it or not, you’re wrong about this. There are quite a few people, including myself who dvr’d that fight & we all got the same message you see quoted above. Hughes really does say, “I love it”……….no class.[/quote]

I never even commented on what hughes said,I could care less ,hes an asshat no matter what he said at that fight.

That was me with the incorrect lipreading, and it hadn’t been mentioned before. And I acknowledged my mistake earlier. Someonw asked, and I told him what I thought he said between the “I love it’s.”

@ MACHINE-

thank you for agreeing and validating my comment about matt hughes saying “i love it” and to wildbill- im sorry i sounded like an assclown… i dont really see where u drew that conclusion from… but im truly sorry. none the less i wasn’t trying to offend you or anyone else or make myself look stupid… but regardless of what you thought, i was merely trying to make the point that matt hughes was clearly ecstatic and i used him saying “i love it” to prove my point. once again, sorry if anyone is offended, i was simply making a point. and to SK… i wasn’t trying to be a dick to you either… just wanted to make sure my point was understood.

He’s a great fighter – yes, He’s a 2 time champ – yes, he dominated the 2nd generation of UFC -yes, he will be in the hall of fame – yes; and finally he got KTFO by GSP -yes.

All the above may be true, but he is still an ass and always has been. I lost all my respect for Hughes right around the Gracie fight. Gracie changed fighting for ever, and started MMA and your country boy gave him no respect what so ever. To me, that just showcased how much of a dick and how arrogant he really was.

Anyway, at least once a week there is a subject on here about Hughes cryin, talkin shit, his religous and/or political beliefs, blaming something (god, ego or whatever the next one will be) for losing, or just plain out being the cocksucker that he really is and we all debate about it.

so all his defenders, please tell me if he is such a great guy, then why do we constantly hear about him doing stuff that proves otherwise.

anyway, Hughes will get his shortly now that he pissed GSP off, if he did that to him before imagine what he will do now!

so GSP, put of your shit kickers and kick some shit!
unless of course Strong Island can knock his ass out,

Let’s not mistake Steve with me…I just wanna clear it up that I think Matt is complete dink…

GSP will hold the belt once again…

He just needs to beat Fitch, Sanchez, or KOS first before he gets another title shot…

I hope Serra beats Hughes though…That would just be too good…I would actually cheer instead of staring at the T.V in complete disbelief when he beat GSP…

well put mayberry

Fightfan-
No worries. Thanks for the correct info, too.

Mayberry-
I second that. I want to like Hughes…but then he opens his mouth.

Only one alias, True Believer, which is the name they have when I use my wife’s computer. And I am definitely not Hughes himself.
Anyway, I just think someone should defend Hughes against all of the illegitimate criticism he receives on this blog. I respect Hughes as a fighter because of the way he trains, and because he has never ducked anyone, and he has beaten the best that the welter weigth division has had to offer for years.
I respect Hughes as a man because he is open about his faith and because I know how much he does in the area of charity work and how much he prides himself on staying humble despite all of the fame that he he currently has.
Serra does not like Hughes because Hughes was able to manipulate him like a puppet on a string on TUF 4. In short, he is mentally weak, and I promise you he does not want to fight Hughes and will delay doing so for as long as he can.

steve is cool to be a hughes fan and back him up…but dont contradict yourself….humble guys, big in religion and charity shouldnt try to “manipulate” anyone

Fair enough. I guess Hughes might say that it is all part of the game and just another way to get an edge on an opponent. I doubt he would act that way in another context.

although it is not likely… it is possible that serra could upset hughes. nobody thought he had a chance against GSP, myself included… and he did like he said and shocked the world. once again i will say… it is not likely that it will happen… but it is possible… and thats one of the reason i watch ufc and other MMA promotions… because anything can happen when you have a punchers chance

the thing that make me like hughes it’s that he kick royce gracies ass.

Hughes showed no class whatsoever, i’m sure he lost a lot of fans after that incident…Serra is a man of class as well and GSP could not have lost to a better man…I am a huge GSP fan and he will come back, since he is only 24 and mma fighters hit their prime at about 30 (Chuck and Randy)…I hope Serra throttles Hughes in their fight and hopefully send him into retirement…GSP will prolly get Kos next which should be a good fight.

All the people that talk about respect and Hughes not giving it must be perfect little choir boys or girls. They probably never talk shit about their boss or elders. All this “respect” talk to me is a bunch of bullshit. I won’t talk about respect because I dont practice like I should. Unlike all you Hughes haters. Give me a break!

Hughes was one of my favorite fighters until i saw the way he acts towards people, especially on the reality shows…pre-fight games are always legit but the way matt hughes does it is completely disrespectful…also watch and see how st.pierre trains with serra to demolish hughes…woooooooo

[quote comment="32525"]Only one alias, True Believer, which is the name they have when I use my wife’s computer. And I am definitely not Hughes himself.
Anyway, I just think someone should defend Hughes against all of the illegitimate criticism he receives on this blog. I respect Hughes as a fighter because of the way he trains, and because he has never ducked anyone, and he has beaten the best that the welter weigth division has had to offer for years.
I respect Hughes as a man because he is open about his faith and because I know how much he does in the area of charity work and how much he prides himself on staying humble despite all of the fame that he he currently has.
Serra does not like Hughes because Hughes was able to manipulate him like a puppet on a string on TUF 4. In short, he is mentally weak, and I promise you he does not want to fight Hughes and will delay doing so for as long as he can.[/quote]

I don’t see him being really all that Humble, blame my biased opinion for all i care. His website is where I’m basing my opinion from, it would be alright if i found out about his training stuff and stats and things like that, but he projects his political and religious views and such and honestly that stuff has nothing to do with fighting.

People say and even himself that he wasn;t fighting his fight against GSP but i honestly believe that Georges neutralized him he tried to clinch and catch his leg kicks, bear hugged him and couldn’t do shit with it, not like there first fight. Of course he wouldn’t admit that he was completely dominated, nobody does.

It’s apparent that GSP humilates anybody that insults him. Frank Trigg and Matt Hughes can attest to that.

Oh my GSP nuthuggers…

Is it a crime for people to smile and cheer after a fight like that? I know I was. Amazing the amount of nuthugging that goes on here, and I’m not a fan of either GSP or Hughes or Serra.

All the fanboys need to calm down and enjoy the fight and the fights to come.

yea ur right scoob!!!! we are all GSP nuthuggers for pointing out that GSP is a great fighter and completely respectful, when in reality if u look at GSP’s career in and out of the ring… he is a great fighter and completely true. sorry some of us like to state facts here!

[quote comment="32525"]Only one alias, True Believer, which is the name they have when I use my wife’s computer. And I am definitely not Hughes himself.
Anyway, I just think someone should defend Hughes against all of the illegitimate criticism he receives on this blog. I respect Hughes as a fighter because of the way he trains, and because he has never ducked anyone, and he has beaten the best that the welter weigth division has had to offer for years.
I respect Hughes as a man because he is open about his faith and because I know how much he does in the area of charity work and how much he prides himself on staying humble despite all of the fame that he he currently has.
Serra does not like Hughes because Hughes was able to manipulate him like a puppet on a string on TUF 4. In short, he is mentally weak, and I promise you he does not want to fight Hughes and will delay doing so for as long as he can.[/quote]

I think everyone has to respect Hughes as a fighter, you would be a fool not too with his record. He has beat some of the best. It is not his skills in the ring that are being called in to question. You say you respect him because he is open about his faith. But what is his faith? a Christian??? I dont see the way he acts, and some of the things he says to be true to the teachings of Jesus Christ???

What sickens me most about Hughes is that he has this tries to make out that he is this man of God, and that he is Humble and unassuming but he is the complete opposite.

LOL good point scoob, hughes is such a villian because hes happy the guy who humiliated him got humiliated. Maybe hughes put money on serra for all we know because of the odds, who really knows why he’s so happy, maybe he thought it was the most exciting and shocking fight that was supposed to be lame. Hughes does come across as a prick on tv but I really don’t know what he’s like to hang with, I could care less if he’s popular or not will people on this page. I’m a huge gsp fan but maybe if I knew him in real life I wouldn’t like him, and maybe I might like someone I hate on t.v. The reason why I say these things is I’ve known people who are so socially retarded that they come across much worse than they really are and then theres people who are real creeps deep down and have very smooth exteriors. Like scoob said why don’t we all calm down and enjoy the fights to come, upsets happen and will again, in this very unpredictable sport.

I’m a gsp fan but I really think most are going off the deep end with hatred towards hughes, what has he really done? If his worst crime is being arrogant and cocky people here act like they want to stone him, I like gsp but I also remember hughes acting very graceful when gsp beat him and said ” good for you buddy” and hugged him. I have mixed feeling regarding hughes but definitely haven’t seen anything that would make me hate him, I think he’s a prick at times nothing more.

i agree with nathan. hughes is a great fighter and he has put up some great shows. and i think that if you see somebody that got you ko you will be happy to see him get ko as well. maybe the mystake was to show it in public.

Georges St. Pierre knows that it’s more important to be an honorable man than simply a phenomonal athlete. Being a true man has more to do with one’s conduct outside the octagon.

[quote comment="32581"]Oh my GSP nuthuggers…

Is it a crime for people to smile and cheer after a fight like that? I know I was. Amazing the amount of nuthugging that goes on here, and I’m not a fan of either GSP or Hughes or Serra.

All the fanboys need to calm down and enjoy the fight and the fights to come.[/quote]

Since you’re a fan of neither then you’ll never appreciate either side of the debate. Why bother insulting those of us who are, do you honestly think by calling us out that you’re going to change our opinions on anything. What goes on in the octagon is one thing and what happens outside is another.
Honestly what are you trying to achieve???

Matt Hughes is a good fighter who has been very successful. THAT’S ABOUT IT. He’s not a smart man, he’s not a classy guy, he’s not verbally versed, and he’s not a good sportsman. Yet, no body can deny the extent of his success.

The reason why Matt Hughes is so successful is actually related to the Miletich System, which is to say that he’s the product of no system at all. If you look at the patterns of the type of fighters that Miletich produces, you’ll notice that they are all somehow physically distinguishable. The only thing he adds is telling how to use their natural ability. He really doesn’t add any fight abilities of his own.

HOW COULD HE? HE WAS AT BEST A MEDIOCRE FIGHTER.

The simplest way to prove my point is to look at Hughes in detail. Previous to fighting Royce Gracie, Matt Hughes [less eloquently] stated that the sport had passed Gracie by… fighters today are more evolved … Gracie was a great Jujitsu fighter and no more … ad adnausium. Could we be able to infer the same about Hughes?

He boasts, like any other “Miletich” fighter, about the greatness of their “camp” and their “system”. IS IT THAT GREAT? I mean other than getting Hughes to concentrate on a ground and pound and the occasional submission, Patty has not really add much to Hughes game. Case in point: Matt Hughes’ stand-up is as mediocre as Patty’s. Once you can sprawl on his take downs, he is utterly defenseless. He can’t kick, punch, or knee to save his life. He has no boxing abilities, no mui-thai, no kick boxing, no samba, not a damn thing … he can’t evolve. He has getting better at perfecting his ground-and-pound and occasional submissions. THE SPORT IS ABOUT TO OUT-EVOLVE HIM.

Addendum: Tim Silvya (Portuguese last-name BTW … will clarify later) has the same problem. Patty told him to use the long jab to set up the short upper cut and clean opponents out, or use the long jab and set up a very awkward and marginally effective head kick. Once Randy figure out that Patty never train this blubber of a fighter to move around the cage properly and look for other venues of fighting, it was easy for Couture to step outside the jab with an over-the-top swing and catch him every time.

The same reason for Hughes’ fighting debacles are the same reasons for Hughes’ lack of social tact, charm, charisma, or minimal decent skills. Look at all Miletich fighters: NOT ONE OF THEM CAN ESCAPE THE STIGMA OF BEING AN IDEALOG, A MEAT-HEADED BULLY, A GOOD OLD BOY, AND MOST OF ALL ASSHOLE. It seems that in order to be in that camp, not only do you have to posses some exploitable physical characteristic. You also must posses a psychological one.

Does being an idealog make a fighter a better fighter? Maybe. I would doubt it on the grounds that it could cloud your judgment and objectivity. At the end of the day that is more applicable in the battle field that in an octagon. I don’t think it should sway anybody with an IQ over 85 … then again, I’m being presumptuous about quotient quotas for the Miletich camp.

Does being a Meat-Headed bully help a fighters momentum? I wouldn’t think so. There are smart fighters that understand how to weather the storm and come on top. That’s what BJJ has thought us.

Good old boy does not mean what once meant. I think much like other stereotypes (I’m not going to say it) has been transformed to a generalized description of a small minded, prejudicial persona. It just to describe only white (anglo-saxon) good old boys … Sylvia is a Portuguese last name, so it couldn’t apply. RIGHT? (At least, I wouldn’t think so)

On being an asshole: that’s just a characteristic that comprises all others. It shows how little cognitive processes and how much insecurities, fears, and ignorance influence the “thought” process of this type of individual. This would not be, therefore, the smartest of all fighters.

In summary, Matt Hughes might raise from the ashes and even reclaim the tittle. If there’s something I’ve learn in the recent evolution of MMA is that there’s too much talent and variability to predict any one fight outcome anymore. In the not-too-distant future, however, the competition will be too fierce for an obsolete fighter such as Matt Hughes to “weather the storm”. Or any Miletich fighter for that matter.

Well said Jordan.

Ed that was tight. I enjoyed reading.

Thanks SoCal

Ed, you really show how ignorant you are when you write such a lengthy, misinformed entry. I haven’t the time or the interest to respond to every foolish thing you wrote, so I will keep it simple.
Whatever you want to say about MFS, they have produced numerous champions at different weight classes, and Pat led his IFL team to the first championship in the IFL, beating, among others, the great Renzo Gracie team.
Say what you want about MAtt Hughes, but the fact is that he has beaten all the best welterweight fighters the UFC has to offer. Now you can claim that those wins are somehow flukes, but that would just be another dumb statement to add to your already too long of a list.

Hughes and Sherk are douchebags and lost the last bit of respect that I may have had for them. I can’t wait to see the new guys finish them out and leave them with a losing streak ending to their hyped up careers.

[quote comment="32677"]Ed, you really show how ignorant you are when you write such a lengthy, misinformed entry. I haven’t the time or the interest to respond to every foolish thing you wrote, so I will keep it simple.
Whatever you want to say about MFS, they have produced numerous champions at different weight classes, and Pat led his IFL team to the first championship in the IFL, beating, among others, the great Renzo Gracie team.
Say what you want about MAtt Hughes, but the fact is that he has beaten all the best welterweight fighters the UFC has to offer. Now you can claim that those wins are somehow flukes, but that would just be another dumb statement to add to your already too long of a list.[/quote]

Who said anything about his wins being a fluke, sooner or later you’ll catch on that there’s reason behind our opinions. Ed displayed the noticeable trends that inhibit high profile MFS fighters. Don’t get all bent out of shape, just because somebody is or was a champion doesn’t mean that people actually have to like them. Honestly Steve, try defending your opinion instead of attacking others who hold a different one. If you’ve noticed there’s alot of people in general who don’t think too highly of Matt Hughes, you can either accept it or call out and insult everyone that feels that way….Good luck with that.

Typical Hughes… what else is there to say? I don’t care how long he defended his title or that he came from the MFS camp. He’s a D*ckhead PERIOD! No I’ve never met him. Don’t care if I do.

I like the quote that went something like “it might be the first death in the octagon” Once hughs and gsp fight.

I hope TUF 5 is good tonight and not a bomb…

This site is slowly becoming my favorite all time site.

I would say I visit it 3 or 4 times a day.

Didn’t Miletich get standing choked by Renzo Gracie for that IFL?

I know it’s a long shot but the only thing better than seeing Matt Hughes get knocked out by a leg kick is watching Matt Hughes get Choked out by Serra.

What a choad. Matt should not be laughing considering GSP whopped that ass and i am sure he thinks Matt Serra is not on his level, but it makes his loss to GSP even worse. He thinks Serra is a easy win but he may get the same shit GSP recieved.

Yeah tommy if im not mistaken Renzo Gracie choked pat out with standing quillotine….not for sure what True Believer is talking about but maybe he should go back and watch that show on IFL again!

Does anybody Know where we can watch the postfight press conference? i would appreciate the info, ufcmania you should post the stuff on the sight. thanks guys

You’ve got to be kidding me.

First, to the morons who say Hughes isn’t a great fighter, just look at his resume: it speaks for itself. What other UFC welterweight has wins over GSP, BJ Penn, Trigg, Sherk, Royce Gracie, Sakurai, etc? Don’t bother looking. No welterweight has a career to match Hughes. He’s the most dominant fighter in the welterweight class in the history of the promotion, which is quite a statement considering how good that division is in UFC. To think otherwise is an absolute joke.

Second, Hughes was “classless” or had a “bad attitude” for being excited about Serra winning? What exactly did those of you who think that say about GSP entering the cage and telling Hughes he was “unimpressed” by Hughes defeating one of the best welterweights in the world? For some reason, GSP felt it necessary to insert himself into what should have been a celebration for Hughes. None of us know exactly what Hughes was thinking at ringside the other night, yet GSP left no doubt as to how big of an a–hole he was after Hughes beat Penn.

The ridiculous double-standard and lack of memory displayed in this thread is amazing.

I’ll be the one laughing when GSP knocks Hughes right on his ass!!!

[quote comment="32775"]You’ve got to be kidding me.

Second, Hughes was “classless” or had a “bad attitude” for being excited about Serra winning? What exactly did those of you who think that say about GSP entering the cage and telling Hughes he was “unimpressed” by Hughes defeating one of the best welterweights in the world? For some reason, GSP felt it necessary to insert himself into what should have been a celebration for Hughes. None of us know exactly what Hughes was thinking at ringside the other night, yet GSP left no doubt as to how big of an a–hole he was after Hughes beat Penn.

The ridiculous double-standard and lack of memory displayed in this thread is amazing.[/quote]

If I remember correctly GSP did something hughes has never done.. apologize directly to him for what he said.

Ed you make me laugh…did you have a dictionary beside you while you gave your long winded, narrow minded rant. Please don’t talk about I.Q’s when you obviously don’t have much of one yourself. Assuming people are dumb period in my book, they usually never get to the real truth, by the way rich franklin used to be a school teacher and is quite intelligent, do your homework next time because you look like a windbag ass.

I hope Hughes gets his ass whooped by Serra and then rematches GSP and gets sent into retirement by another kick to the dome. I can’t stand that arrogent overated prick.

They should just have the rubber match already then not much more can be said….

[quote post="1788"]he tried to stand with gsp and that isn’t his style, if he utilizes his takedowns and strength gsp won’t win their 3rd fight and hughes will dominate the division again for as long as he wants to[/quote]

If I recall correctly I was at the fight and Hughes tried a couple of times to take GSP down but was unable too and also was himself taken down by GSP. Hughes will get destroyed by GSP when they fight. He got lucky to beat BJ too as BJ broke a rib in the 2nd round and was dominating the fight up till that point. Hughes is very overated he has not beaten any of the current top ww contenders other than his lucky submission win over GSP. I mean he struggled to beat guys like Sherk and Trigg where as GSP made those guys look like amateurs.

[quote comment="32844"][quote post="1788"]he tried to stand with gsp and that isn’t his style, if he utilizes his takedowns and strength gsp won’t win their 3rd fight and hughes will dominate the division again for as long as he wants to[/quote]

If I recall correctly I was at the fight and Hughes tried a couple of times to take GSP down but was unable too and also was himself taken down by GSP. Hughes will get destroyed by GSP when they fight. He got lucky to beat BJ too as BJ broke a rib in the 2nd round and was dominating the fight up till that point. Hughes is very overated he has not beaten any of the current top ww contenders other than his lucky submission win over GSP. I mean he struggled to beat guys like Sherk and Trigg where as GSP made those guys look like amateurs.[/quote]
How could you say these things after the serra/gsp fight?, if serra could beat gsp I think its possible for hughes. Of course gsp is a better fighter than hughes but he’s much much better than serra and look what happened. Just because gsp made hughes look bad in there last fight doesn’t mean he’ll do it again, he could make gsp look bad too. After the serra/gsp fight I’m never going to rule anyone out again, nobodies unbeatable, gsp is human and hughes does have a decent chance of beating him, but I think gsp has the edge.

Other than his submission skills what advantage did serra have over gsp? Odds don’t mean everything, nor do previous fights, serra proved these things. Ufc 69 reality check.

[quote comment="32331"]Maybe Hughes should have been nice and respectful like GSP and walked into the octagon, got on the mic and said “I wasn’t impressed by your performance, Georges”.

?

Seriously, he did nothing wrong here and it certainly wasn’t as bad as what GSP did after the Hughes/Penn fight.

If you think Hughes was happy, surprised, excite, whatever, you should have seen the people jumping around screaming at my house. That was a shocking moment for everyone.[/quote]
exactly! i am a hughes fan and the guy held the title for 4 years he deserves better and i didnt see the fight but he didnt get in the ring and make statement on his perfomance. And if you watched the tuf4 Serra talked a bunch of shit and it was never in front of hughes.

I think it’s not that bad.he just smiled because, if you remember,even Sean sherk came and told matt something.
I thing they were talking about serra,that GSP knocked both of them out (hughes,sherk),but now this little guy beat him up !!!!!!! that’s why he laughed,,,hehehehee

[quote comment="32844"][quote post="1788"]he tried to stand with gsp and that isn’t his style, if he utilizes his takedowns and strength gsp won’t win their 3rd fight and hughes will dominate the division again for as long as he wants to[/quote]

If I recall correctly I was at the fight and Hughes tried a couple of times to take GSP down but was unable too and also was himself taken down by GSP. Hughes will get destroyed by GSP when they fight. He got lucky to beat BJ too as BJ broke a rib in the 2nd round and was dominating the fight up till that point. Hughes is very overated he has not beaten any of the current top ww contenders other than his lucky submission win over GSP. I mean he struggled to beat guys like Sherk and Trigg where as GSP made those guys look like amateurs.[/quote]Hughes has dominated the WW division for nearly a decade, and yet he hasn’t beaten anyone. Right.

Jordan, what argument did Ed lay out that could possibly be refuted. It is he, and you, who simply go on and on about why it is that you don’t like Hughes, or MFS, or good ol’ boys, or whatever.
I just go by facts, and the only point you seem to make is that, because Hughes got knocked out by GSP after taking the fight on seven weeks rest after a tough win over Penn, that Hughes is now finished. I disagree.
I don’t know what qualifications Ed has to insult MFS, but I have been training for a while, and it seems to me that Pat has done just fine translating his system into a track record of success. Now Ed sees a flaw in Hughes’ striking, which he somehow attributes to MFS, yet Pulver and Sylvia are excellent strikers. Hughes managed to submit GSP, Trigg twice, as well as dominate Gracie, so I think you would have to say that, in addition to being a strong wrestler, he know how to pull off a submission or two.
Now Jordan, do you really want me to attempt to refute the “asshole” argument? That is just childish and has nothing to do with what goes on inside the octagon.

FUCK HUGHES HES HAPY CAUSE HE THINKS HE CAN BEAT SERRA AN HE KNOWS HE WILL LOSE TO GSP

As to the concerns about my qualifications. No, I have never stepped into an octagon. Then again NEITHER HAS JOE ROGAN, AND WHO CAN DOUBT HES THE GREATEST COMMENTATOR THE UFC HAS EVER HAD. Just like you, I have trained in many martial arts. Among other things, I’ve followed the MMA movement since the very beginning. And finally, among many other things I have had the rare occasion and privilege to meet and talk to guys like Don Frye and Dan Severn. Although I trained with people that participate in different levels of MMA, I’ve never fought professionally.

Then again, DOES A HISTORIAN NEED TO BUY A TIME MACHINE AND FIGHT THE GREEK WARS OR EXPERIENCE THE ROMAN EXPANSION TO COMMENT ON THEM? EVEN BETTER YET, HAS EVERY COMMENTATOR BEING A PRO IN THEIR FIELD OF EXPERTISE. I WOULD SUBMIT TO YOU THAT THEY HAVE NOT.

Now, as for the voiced concerns of my “lengthy” posting: I write at such lengths because I can. I actually have the capacity to voice more than a slur. The fact that you cannot and that is your point of controversy just goes to show how were at different points of the spectrum as far as intellect goes. Alas, who ever said that all UFC fans are just meat-heads.

Last thing I want to depart with is to mentioned that this is an opinion. You are entitled to ensue according to your own bias, but does make truer. The fact is that what you call “excellent striking” is sub-par and predictable at best. Again, making a logical statement to your anecdotal dribble: Tim Sylvia KNOCKED A FEW GUYS BECAUSE THEY STEPPED “INSIDE” HIS JABS INSTEAD OF OUTSIDE. ONCE INSIDE, HE ONLY HAD TO LAY A SHORT UPPER CUT OR SHORT HOOK. IF THEY WOULD BACK OUT INSIDE HIS JAB, HE THROW A VERY AWKWARD KICK. RANDY STEPPED OUT THE JAB AND GOT HIM EVERY TIME. NEED I SAY MORE.

Now, guys like you just make my point ever more stronger about the caliber of IDEALOGS your camp has. Oh, about Pulver, isn’t he currently coaching in TUF 5. Didn’t a guy there already beat him? … I would appreciate a name. Better yet, remember every single guy in that show … even the camera men would get to beat Pulver.

Enough Said.

Gsp has shown nothing but respect towards Hughes and this is how he repays him what a tit

Too many comments to read – Hughes is a dickhead, being a loser he shouldnt act so smug. His time has come and gone – Koscheck could beat him, now that wouldnt b true last year – just shows how his time has gone. cant wait to see GSP v Hughes 3

[quote comment="32775"]You’ve got to be kidding me.

First, to the morons who say Hughes isn’t a great fighter, just look at his resume: it speaks for itself. What other UFC welterweight has wins over GSP, BJ Penn, Trigg, Sherk, Royce Gracie, Sakurai, etc? Don’t bother looking. No welterweight has a career to match Hughes. He’s the most dominant fighter in the welterweight class in the history of the promotion, which is quite a statement considering how good that division is in UFC. To think otherwise is an absolute joke.

Second, Hughes was “classless” or had a “bad attitude” for being excited about Serra winning? What exactly did those of you who think that say about GSP entering the cage and telling Hughes he was “unimpressed” by Hughes defeating one of the best welterweights in the world? For some reason, GSP felt it necessary to insert himself into what should have been a celebration for Hughes. None of us know exactly what Hughes was thinking at ringside the other night, yet GSP left no doubt as to how big of an a–hole he was after Hughes beat Penn.

The ridiculous double-standard and lack of memory displayed in this thread is amazing.[/quote]

Whoa easy there,
1) GSP entered the ring cage after Hughes said that he was going to beat him again, and GSP after being humiliated on TUF4 could either take it showing that he’s spineless or take a poke at him. Even after he appologized, did Hughes?? NOPE.

2) I don’t like Hughes as a person, as a fighter he has accomplished alot but there is alot of History yet to be written. I’m not one to be narrow minded and assume that nobody is capable of accomplishing what he did.

3) After Robbie Lawler knock out Trigg, Matt had posted on his website how happy he was that Trigg was KO’d. Christians are supposed to be forgiving no matter what. Even after the end of their second fight Matt and Frank hugged and congratulated each other, but Matt was retentless to see Frank suffer.

If Matt wants to be an Asshole then be an asshole, throwing religion into the equation contridicts his actions.

[quote comment="32644"][quote comment="32581"]Oh my GSP nuthuggers…

Is it a crime for people to smile and cheer after a fight like that? I know I was. Amazing the amount of nuthugging that goes on here, and I’m not a fan of either GSP or Hughes or Serra.

All the fanboys need to calm down and enjoy the fight and the fights to come.[/quote]

Since you’re a fan of neither then you’ll never appreciate either side of the debate. Why bother insulting those of us who are, do you honestly think by calling us out that you’re going to change our opinions on anything. What goes on in the octagon is one thing and what happens outside is another.
Honestly what are you trying to achieve???[/quote]

And what big debate is there? I didn’t insult anyone, I was just trying to point out that all of the “GSP slipped”, “it was an illegal punch to the back of the head”, “it was a fluke”, “matt hughes laughed at GSP”, blah blah blah boo hoo hoo is really kind of a joke.

The way I see it, it’s pretty simple. GSP knocked out Hughes, fair and square. Scerra knocked out GSP, fair and square. Both were just awesome fights to watch. So what if Hughes was excited by the outcome of this last one. If you were him, who would you rather fight? The guy who knocked you out not too long ago or the guy you think you can dominate to reclaim the title?

Now on with your nuthugging Jordan…

Matt & Sean reminded me of the Big Dog little dog cartoon.

Isn’t Matt Huges a very religous person? Pointing his finger at his temple as he enters the ring and thanks god for his victories…etc. I am not sure what religion he is but I would imagine that they would preach something about respect for other humans…..
http://www.matt-hughes.com/biography.html

On the last evening of the trip at the base of McKelligan Canyon just outside El Paso, TX, Matt was encouraged by his twin brother Mark to take God up on his offer of salvation through Jesus Christ. About the same time Mark was challenging Matt to stop delaying his decision by saying, “The time is now,” Matt was humbly asking Jesus to be Lord and Savior of his life.

His favorite verse comes from 1 Timothy 1:15-16:
“Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners – of whom I am the worst. But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his unlimited patience as an example for those who would believe on him and receive eternal life.”

I am not a very religous person my self, but I do find it very amuzing that for someone that claims they are so religious can be such an ASS with no respect.

Maybe it is just a way for him to try to make him self look like a better person.

[quote comment="32970"]Jordan, what argument did Ed lay out that could possibly be refuted. It is he, and you, who simply go on and on about why it is that you don’t like Hughes, or MFS, or good ol’ boys, or whatever.
I just go by facts, and the only point you seem to make is that, because Hughes got knocked out by GSP after taking the fight on seven weeks rest after a tough win over Penn, that Hughes is now finished. I disagree.
I don’t know what qualifications Ed has to insult MFS, but I have been training for a while, and it seems to me that Pat has done just fine translating his system into a track record of success. Now Ed sees a flaw in Hughes’ striking, which he somehow attributes to MFS, yet Pulver and Sylvia are excellent strikers. Hughes managed to submit GSP, Trigg twice, as well as dominate Gracie, so I think you would have to say that, in addition to being a strong wrestler, he know how to pull off a submission or two.
Now Jordan, do you really want me to attempt to refute the “asshole” argument? That is just childish and has nothing to do with what goes on inside the octagon.[/quote]

Steve, the last time I checked, attitude was my problem with Matt Hughes, a trend doesn’t define anything but i can’t be unnoticed. Looking for excuses why Matt lost, if that makes you feel any better, then great. I don’t hear Matt claiming that he took the fight on short rest, and the fact that the fight ended in the begining of the second round pretty much refutes the idea that Matt was gased, he even said in the post fight interview that he didn’t even know that it was a kick that him out because he didn’t see it. So please drop the whole short rest bull shit.

Gee Jordan, you must have been thinking the same as me.

There are also a few guys behind and next to Hughes who are clapping, smiling, and cheering. Those classless bastards need their asses kicked. I’ll bet they sure hope GSP didn’t see them doing such a thing…

[quote comment="33098"]
Whoa easy there,
1) GSP entered the ring cage after Hughes said that he was going to beat him again, and GSP after being humiliated on TUF4 could either take it showing that he’s spineless or take a poke at him. Even after he appologized, did Hughes?? NOPE.

2) I don’t like Hughes as a person, as a fighter he has accomplished alot but there is alot of History yet to be written. I’m not one to be narrow minded and assume that nobody is capable of accomplishing what he did.

3) After Robbie Lawler knock out Trigg, Matt had posted on his website how happy he was that Trigg was KO’d. Christians are supposed to be forgiving no matter what. Even after the end of their second fight Matt and Frank hugged and congratulated each other, but Matt was retentless to see Frank suffer.

If Matt wants to be an Asshole then be an asshole, throwing religion into the equation contridicts his actions.[/quote]1. Fighters say what they’re going to do all the time. I have no problem with what GSP said, it’s going into the ring with Hughes after a huge victory that I have a problem with. GSP knew he was out of line or he wouldn’t have apologized. And Hughes was nothing but class congratulating GSP after losing the title to him, something a lot of fighters certainly aren’t.

2. I didn’t say Hughes was the greatest WW fighter that will ever step in the cage. But to date, he is the greatest WW in UFC history. It’s not even debatable. What GSP or any of these other guys will be in ten years is debatable.

3. After the Lawler/Trigg fight, Hughes posted this: “First off, I want to congratulate Robbie for his KO victory over Frank Trigg in round 4 last night, or this morning, however you want to say it. Robbie is like a brother to me up in Iowa and Frank’s really given me a hard time. So I was glad that Robbie was able to finish the fight and not have it go to a decision.” I don’t see any controversy there. Given his relationship with Lawler, it’s hardly scandalous that he was glad that Lawler beat Trigg.

[quote comment="33114"][quote comment="32644"][quote comment="32581"]Oh my GSP nuthuggers…

Is it a crime for people to smile and cheer after a fight like that? I know I was. Amazing the amount of nuthugging that goes on here, and I’m not a fan of either GSP or Hughes or Serra.

All the fanboys need to calm down and enjoy the fight and the fights to come.[/quote]

Since you’re a fan of neither then you’ll never appreciate either side of the debate. Why bother insulting those of us who are, do you honestly think by calling us out that you’re going to change our opinions on anything. What goes on in the octagon is one thing and what happens outside is another.
Honestly what are you trying to achieve???[/quote]

And what big debate is there? I didn’t insult anyone, I was just trying to point out that all of the “GSP slipped”, “it was an illegal punch to the back of the head”, “it was a fluke”, “matt hughes laughed at GSP”, blah blah blah boo hoo hoo is really kind of a joke.

The way I see it, it’s pretty simple. GSP knocked out Hughes, fair and square. Scerra knocked out GSP, fair and square. Both were just awesome fights to watch. So what if Hughes was excited by the outcome of this last one. If you were him, who would you rather fight? The guy who knocked you out not too long ago or the guy you think you can dominate to reclaim the title?

Now on with your nuthugging Jordan…[/quote]

silly me to assume nuthugging was a bad thing.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA OMG that fight was so funny.”I was not impressed by his performance.” I believe that was a quote the classy GSP said about Matt Hughes. Matt Hughes wasn’t laughing at GSP but all the idiots who said GSP would walk all over Matt Serra. If Hughes would quit trying to be Chuck Liddell and knock everyone out he could still be champ. That laugh wasn’t out of disrespect but shock like I was. I said the fight wasn’t going to last 2 rounds and picked GSP to win and I had a smile on my face after the fight. Who knows maybe he was happy for Matt Serra kinda like I was after the all the time Serra put into getting there.

I agree with j-walker, what’s the big deal with been happy for serra? Why does every one ASSUME its because gsp lost? Serra winning is an incredible statement for the underdog and believing in yourself when no one else does. If david beats goliath and one cheers for david after goliath goes down does that make the one cheering an asshole? I was devastated when gsp lost, he’s by far my favorite fighter and I think a great guy, but serra winning is testament that even when the odds are stacked against you, its still possible. No one really knows why hughes is cheering and so happy we can only assume. And to ed.
“Now, as for the voiced concerns of my “lengthy” posting: I write at such lengths because I can. I actually have the capacity to voice more than a slur. The fact that you cannot and that is your point of controversy just goes to show how were at different points of the spectrum as far as intellect goes. Alas, who ever said that all UFC fans are just meat-heads.”

You are by far the most arrogant, assuming person to comment on ufcmania, in my opinion. Any moron could ramble on and blab like a mindless idiot, not saying you are but most people don’t want to read a very long winded post and I believe most of the commenters prefer to get to the point.

I think its very contradictory that people love St.pierre for being so classy and respectful (which he is) then YOU say you hope Matt.H. Gets his face smashed and you want to see him get hurt and beat into retirement, broken arms ETC. Take the qualities that you like in St.Pierre and ask yourself if those are the qualities you display when commenting? George displays that attitude and respect for a reason, He is being an EXAMPLE. And as for the “Jesus vote” as you refered to, the bible says “Do not Point out the splinter in a brother’s eye when you have a piece of lumber in your own.” Ask yourself if the attitude you display when commenting was displayed by a UFC fighter would many people like that fighter? Anyhow I’m a St.pierre fan and I can’t wait to see him back on the top again. Even if Hughes does lose his next 5 fights and retires theres no shame on him, whats his record 43-4 or something like that? I don’t enjoy watching fighters display low class no matter how good they are. I think thats why its so hard to see poor sports at the top of divisions no matter how much talent they have. Matt Hughes HAS made some poor displays of sportsmanship but I hope as he matures as a Christian he will gain control of that. In the meantime St.Pierre is the best fighter on ALL levels in the MMA world (Randy Coture is Cool too).

Taking a shot at a commentors capacity to comment is pretty tacky buddy. Intelligent people aren’t assuming because the moment you just assume something based on a surface assumption you aren’t getting the whole picture and most likely will be wrong. Detective’s understand this and so do successful scientists who actually get to the truth of the matter.

Woodie very well said, I was thinking the same thing myself but I’ve already written too much for my comfort, totally agree.

I think he was happy because he doesn’t get along with Serra and now they’ll probably fight, I don’t think it had as much to do with George…

Hughes will regain the title, then defeat Georges, and defend a few more times before it’s all over. He will play the villain well and will be fun to hate

It’s not the laugh that pissed me off. i’m sure he was happy, but to look at the camera and say “I love it” is totally disrespectful. It just shows how much of a de-generate hughes is. I hope GSP fights angry from here on in. He was angry at hughes for his antics before their second fight and look at the results there. GSP didn’t let loose and got kcocked out playing it safe!

Matt Serra Won ??? Did he how very WWE, no way man

I would love to see Serra beat Hughes. I hope he gets knocked right out of the rankings. He has no respect for anyone unless they belong to his camp

Matt Hughes does not know how to behave like a professional fighter outside the ring. George St.Pierre does. Matt Hughes will now be champ again(sorry Matt S)and George will get a chance to kick him in he head again. HHHHOOOOOOORAAAAAA.

I just hope George doesn’t kill him. He, Matt Hughes, is not worth the time George would spend in court afterwards.

The UFC should provide media training to both Sean and Matt.

I can’t believe Rich Franklin and Hughes are friends!!! Try comparing Matt’s reaction to Rich’s from UFC 68 when Silva came in the ring after Rich defeated Jason. Talk about night and day.

I think George should probably fight back home, back in Canada, before he fights in the UFC again.

Try [quote comment="34119"]Matt Hughes does not know how to behave like a professional fighter outside the ring. George St.Pierre does. Matt Hughes will now be champ again(sorry Matt S)and George will get a chance to kick him in he head again. HHHHOOOOOOORAAAAAA.

I just hope George doesn’t kill him. He, Matt Hughes, is not worth the time George would spend in court afterwards.

The UFC should provide media training to both Sean and Matt.

I can’t believe Rich Franklin and Hughes are friends!!! Try comparing Matt’s reaction to Rich’s from UFC 68 when Silva came in the ring after Rich defeated Jason. Talk about night and day.

I think George should probably fight back home, back in Canada, before he fights in the UFC again.[/quote]Try comparing Hughes reaction to GSP after GSP took the belt from him. Compare how much of a jerk was coming into the ring with Hughes after the Penn fight vs. how gracious Silva was towards Franklin after his comeback win.

Night and day. People in this thread hold Hughes to a standard that apparently doesn’t apply to GSP or any other fighter except Matt Hughes.

Good points Big b but perception is reality sir and George said sorry on tape shortly afterwards and we all got to see it over and over again.

It doesn’t matter what is really going on, right? Who the hell knows? What matters is that the fans in this conversation almost across the board have a certain view of what has transpired and George has won the PR battle. Matt Hughes needs to be seen conducting himself in a manner that is more becoming of a professional fighter and long time champ when he is outside the ring at all times. These things have a way of distracting from the truth. Neither Matt Hughes nor George St.Pierre need that BS in their lives.

And finally, I just want to clarify one point on my previous note. No one deserves to be hurt seriously in the ring. My personal fear is that this kind of press could cause very dangerous fighters like George and Matt to dislike one another to a point that they would actually try and hurt one another or not show good judgment during any future fights. That would be sad for the sport and for all parties involved, especially Matt and George.

GSP got beat in that fight in pretty much the only way id been able to imagine before hand,lucky punch.I was realy impresed with the way he took the loss and didnt try to make any excuses,and seeing MH laughing like that I have now lost all respect for him.I used to like him but now i wish he was dead,and i would put money on it that WHEN they next fight for the title GSP is gonna absolutly destroy Hughes even worse then the first time and he will be made to look absolutly foolish.I think hughes is gonna get the belt from serra and i hope he enjoys it coz its gonna be the last time he wears a championship belt and hes not gonna have it for long. if you happen to read this Matt Hughes be carfull working on that farm and try not to get ran over by the combine coz when you next fight GSP its gonna be harvest time!

[quote comment="32347"]clearly, any idiot could see that he’s not in shock from the fight… but hes happy that gsp lost. as soon as sherk approaches, you can tell that they are both happy that the man that man hughes look like a bitch lost. im not saying i felt it was disrespectful by hughes… i mean i didn’t expect him to run up to gsp and say that hes sorry he lost… but clearly, like NOEL said, hughes knows the odds of him beating serra are better than the odds of him beating gsp, although serra proved odds mean nothing.[/quote]

Have a look at everyone in the back ground. They all have the same look on their face that Hughes and Sherk have. Any idiot can see that

[quote comment="32348"]@MIKI-

very well said… forrest looks genuinely shocked. and then he looks at hughes like WTF are you so happy for… while the entire time matt looks like he’s about to ejaculate in his pants cuz he feels he has an easier roead to the title.[/quote]

Dude, get your eyes checked. Forrest looks in the direction of Matt, and then smiles. When he looks back towrds Matt, he is still smiling. He NEVER ONCE has a look on his face that questions why Matt is happy.

[quote comment-"THE SPIDA']u say hughes lost the last fight cuz he chose to stand with GSP… the question i have for you is “did hughes choose to stand, or did GSP have extreme takedown defense and make hughes stand? watch the fight again, and then answer!”[/quote]

He tried taking him down twice. The one time was a horrible effort. It is clear to anyone with an IQ over 5 that he tried the stand up. But don’t believe me, have a listne to what Big John and BJ Penn had to say. Because both of them said the same thing I just did.

[quote comment="32285"]Look at these to idiots..Matt Hughes, I coulda sworn GSP just anialated him just a few months ago. And look at Sherk, who is he trying to suck up to?.Hughes kicked his ass..Oh and GSP made him scream like a girl and drop down to 155. No respect by these guys, Hughes is a great fighter, but I think Koscheck and Diego can beat him, and we know what GSP will do to him. I cant even picture GSP fighting someone he doesnt respect, its gonna be ugly again!![/quote]

Are you serious? who in there right mind would ever say that diego and Koscheck can beat matt hughes!! For one thing GSP caught hughes with not one but two kicks to the groin which later did what? OH, it set up that kick to hughes head!! I dont know how much you pay attention to UFC but you need to study up a little more. Oh one more thing, Matt Hughes loves that cause Serra was talking all this shit about Hughes. Not just becuase GSP got beat!!!

Matt hughes at UFC 69 a pissed off GSP = decapitation of Matt Hughes courtesy of GSP

Let me say first of all as an American I usually back American fighters. Also, I think Serra and Hughes are both great fighters as well as BJ Penn. Having said that, I think this weight class is going to belong to GSP all the way despite having probably the toughest competition in the entire UFC. Unless Hughes can give some sort of credible answer for that reaction, he has just lost respect with a lot of people for showing no class whatsoever…..then again….maybe that was just intense relief that he won’t have to face GSP for the title, because I think we all know what will happen if he does.